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(Usage: 98M) 01:33:40 <Brot6> Is this going to involve RAW human ecstasy? 05:40:09 *** DJNekkid has quit IRC 06:06:22 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 06:06:37 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v ODM 06:11:03 *** DJNekkid has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 06:11:08 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v DJNekkid 06:42:55 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 06:43:00 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v andythenorth 06:45:00 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 06:55:52 *** DJNekkid has quit IRC 07:08:29 *** Brot6 has quit IRC 07:08:46 *** Brot6 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 07:08:51 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v Brot6 07:24:41 *** Brot6 has quit IRC 07:24:57 *** Brot6 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 07:25:02 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v Brot6 08:10:25 *** DJNekkid has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 08:10:30 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v DJNekkid 10:03:23 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Feature #528: Add liveries for planes we already have coded. @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/528#change-1361 (by FaddyPainter) 10:47:43 *** Doorslammer has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 10:47:48 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v Doorslammer 10:52:13 *** jonty-comp has quit IRC 10:52:58 *** Rubidium has quit IRC 11:06:40 *** jonty-comp has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 11:06:45 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v jonty-comp 11:07:20 *** Rubidium has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 11:07:25 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v Rubidium 11:08:41 *** Chris_Booth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 11:08:53 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v Chris_Booth 11:41:02 *** DJ_Nekkid has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 11:41:08 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v DJ_Nekkid 11:44:05 *** Doorslammer has quit IRC 11:46:57 *** DJNekkid has quit IRC 11:52:34 *** DJNekkid has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 11:52:39 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v DJNekkid 11:57:17 *** DJ_Nekkid has quit IRC 12:41:27 *** DJNekkid has quit IRC 13:59:59 *** nekomaster has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 14:00:04 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v nekomaster 14:00:16 <welshdragon> nekomaster: he's just ping'd out 14:00:25 <nekomaster> Aw F*** 14:00:36 <nekomaster> god F***Ing damn it, stupid ping 14:00:43 <nekomaster> oh well 14:00:56 <nekomaster> *waits* 14:00:56 <welshdragon> nekomaster: check #tycoon 14:01:33 *** nekomaster has left #openttdcoop.devzone 14:01:40 <planetmaker> nekomaster, can you stop the swearing...? 14:01:45 <planetmaker> good gratious 14:02:06 <jonty-comp> yes, you don't want him in here 14:02:44 *** welshdragon has left #openttdcoop.devzone 14:05:48 *** nekomaster has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 14:05:53 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v nekomaster 14:06:17 <nekomaster> Hmm 14:06:22 <nekomaster> any one around on here? 14:07:33 <planetmaker> only for people who don't swear and pay attention to the netiquette. 14:07:48 <Ammler> :-) 14:08:03 <nekomaster> Sorry 14:08:07 <nekomaster> Anyways 14:08:29 <nekomaster> Im making a set, well, mor elike modifying what colossal has done so far, and Im trying to add a train to it 14:09:11 <nekomaster> Its suppose to use the MLD EDP23 Sprite but it keeps using the container flatbed sprite on a differnt sheet\file 14:10:23 <Ammler> so the issue is? 14:10:24 <planetmaker> you'd need to post an example code, I guess and hope for DJNekkid to show up :-) 14:11:16 <nekomaster> Well, thing is, im doing it in GRF Maker, though I do have grfcodec stuff so I can decode the GRF to nfo + pcx 14:11:37 <Ammler> hmm, grfmaker, nobody here uses that 14:11:59 <Ammler> then it might be better to ask in the grfmaker thread. 14:12:23 <nekomaster> : ( 14:12:40 <Ammler> I know nobody in the whole IRC world using that :-( 14:12:41 <nekomaster> I use it cause I cannot do NFO, way to confusing 14:12:57 <nekomaster> me and Colossal use it 14:13:07 <Ammler> andersi does 14:13:19 <nekomaster> So far the sets coming along alright, we need more artists though 14:13:34 <Ammler> is that the geneirc train set? 14:13:44 <nekomaster> yeah 14:14:06 <nekomaster> even if its a full sprite sheet or two it will help 14:14:29 <Ammler> the guy which makes the swedish train set, does use grfmaker. 14:14:35 <nekomaster> Heh 14:14:44 <Ammler> anderi, iirc. 14:14:57 <jonty-comp> jvassie used it at some point too 14:15:07 <jonty-comp> and I have used it in the past, but given up on it 14:15:11 <nekomaster> though, I doubt you can do it in grf maker, but how do you add extra info like "Usage : " 14:15:17 <jonty-comp> because it doesn't go very well with ottd 14:15:30 <nekomaster> Actually its doing alright with openttd 14:15:33 <Ammler> I thought, you can just add plain nfo where you need? 14:15:36 <jonty-comp> or indeed anything added to GRF specs in the last five years 14:16:08 <Ammler> nekomaster: most or all grfs which works in patch, do work in openttd 14:16:34 <nekomaster> well yeah, I have come across a few that dont work, but cause they're old 14:17:08 <Ammler> but there are some advanced things like bigger ID range and articulated support, early years which doesn't 14:17:13 <Ammler> (in patch) 14:17:40 <nekomaster> Man, I really wish someone would update openttd for psp, 5.3 is ok but its getting old 14:18:08 <Ammler> nekomaster: I only know some grf which don't work, because they have stupid action7/9 clause, which checks for openttd and then rejects. 14:18:13 <Ammler> not a technical issue. 14:18:20 <nekomaster> Ahh 14:18:56 <nekomaster> Hmm, well, anyways, one thing I like about GTRS so far is it works on 5.3, which what I have on my PSP 14:20:18 <Ammler> nothing bad to code the grf working for patch, too. 14:20:49 <nekomaster> I tried ttdpatch yesterday, couldn't get it to work how I wanted it to 14:20:50 <planetmaker> it would - actually - be quite nice ;-) 14:21:04 <nekomaster> though 14:21:26 <Ammler> planetmaker: relatively, the user group is around 10 there. 14:21:38 <nekomaster> Im sure that it would work... there nothing really special other thent he fact that the EDP23 makes all EDP23 locos behind a B Unit 14:23:04 <planetmaker> Ammler, the user group of what? 14:23:11 <Ammler> ttdpatch :P 14:23:27 <planetmaker> you mean like 10 people use it? Sounds too small for me. 14:23:45 <nekomaster> Wow, only 10 ppl use ttdp? 14:23:47 <Ammler> yeah, it might be a little, around 10 downloaded the opengfx for ttdp 14:24:01 <planetmaker> well. That's a different issue, I say :-) 14:24:12 <planetmaker> Like 10% of the OpenTTD people use OpenGFX :-) 14:24:15 <nekomaster> oh eyah, I just remebered, no, GTRS doesnt work on TTDP 14:24:24 <nekomaster> I use openGFX 14:24:31 <planetmaker> :-) 14:24:32 <nekomaster> it looks better then defualt 14:24:36 <nekomaster> way better 14:24:43 <jonty-comp> each to his own 14:24:45 <planetmaker> that's nice to hear :-) 14:25:01 *** Doorslammer has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 14:25:04 <nekomaster> and with a opensfx we're one step closer to a 100% openTTD :p 14:25:06 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v Doorslammer 14:25:25 <jonty-comp> I like that there is now free graphics to use, but I still prefer the original graphics 14:25:25 <planetmaker> 0.8 will come with an installer offering OpenG[F|S]X for download :-) 14:26:23 <planetmaker> I severely hope, though, that toyland will have at least each sprite replaced by something half-usable by then. 14:28:19 <nekomaster> Heh 14:28:34 <nekomaster> it would be nice if 14:28:59 <nekomaster> someone went through toyland and made it a proper climate 14:29:03 <Ammler> jonty-comp: if you used the others 10 years, you need some time 14:29:42 <Ammler> specially the darker landscape, the gui and the antialiasing is very much different 14:30:13 <Ammler> the quality of the graphics is mostly very much better. 14:30:56 <Ammler> since I use opengfx, the landscape is one of the most ugly things in original. 14:30:57 <nekomaster> yeah 14:30:59 <nekomaster> also 14:31:01 <nekomaster> I like the cursor 14:31:05 <Ammler> and the water 14:31:09 <nekomaster> yeah 14:31:20 <planetmaker> the water is a breeze :-) 14:31:32 <nekomaster> it would be nice if someone made a OpenTTD2 14:31:40 <nekomaster> with larger graphics 14:31:41 <planetmaker> what's the point of that? 14:31:50 <nekomaster> mainly for better detail 14:31:53 <Ammler> nekomaster: 32bpp? 14:31:56 <nekomaster> sure 14:32:18 <Ammler> I mean, that is already done, since 0.6 14:32:29 <planetmaker> zoom-level? 14:33:00 <jonty-comp> well 14:33:10 <jonty-comp> I think the individual graphics are probably better in OpenGFX 14:33:19 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: UK Bus Set - Support #552: Bus template @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/552#change-1356 (by jonty-comp) 14:33:43 <jonty-comp> but I don't like the fact that each graphic is made by a different person, so they all seem to be different styles 14:33:44 <nekomaster> anyways 14:33:48 <jonty-comp> also, I made that update like two days ago D: 14:33:58 <planetmaker> :-) 14:34:00 <nekomaster> does any one do coding here for train sets? 14:34:29 <planetmaker> nekomaster, only thing I can do is: look at how the 2cctrainset does it, look for the templates there. Maybe they're helpful 14:34:59 <planetmaker> you can basically copy&paste the templates and fill in your stuff. 14:34:59 <nekomaster> Um, right now I just need someone to help me fix a train using the wrong sprite 14:35:01 <Ammler> jonty-comp: around 50% is from zeph, which is all the same and some don't agree with his style. 14:35:08 <planetmaker> Only condition then: GPL license :-) 14:35:15 <Ammler> the vehicels are mostly by danmack 14:35:20 <nekomaster> Zeph? 14:35:26 <jonty-comp> yris 14:35:34 <Ammler> and the monolev is by BornAcor 14:35:37 <nekomaster> didnt he do the eGRVS? 14:35:43 <Ammler> so same category, same artists 14:35:55 <Ammler> nekomaster: yes. he. 14:35:57 <planetmaker> yes. Zephyris did A LOT 14:35:57 <nekomaster> ahh 14:36:01 <nekomaster> i love that set 14:36:05 <nekomaster> I never play with out it 14:36:06 <jonty-comp> althouh I do use the opengfx landscape 14:36:10 <jonty-comp> *although 14:36:13 <planetmaker> the toyland vehicles are egrvts :-) 14:36:17 <jonty-comp> I just don't want to use the full set yet 14:36:19 <planetmaker> just copy&pasted :-P 14:36:27 <nekomaster> lawl 14:36:51 <Ammler> jonty-comp: don't get me wrong, I don't care if someone still uses the original :-) 14:36:56 <nekomaster> well still, eGRVS is better then the defualt TTD road vehicles 14:37:05 <planetmaker> jonty-comp, IMO the biggest "get-used-to" step is getting aquainted to the toolbar. 14:37:27 <nekomaster> im use to both styles 14:37:38 <nekomaster> original and opengfx 14:38:00 <Ammler> I can't play with default anymore. terrain is too ugly. 14:38:44 <planetmaker> OpenGFX rivers are nice. And trees also. And toyland is - of what exists - a HUGE improvement over original. 14:38:57 <planetmaker> The original toyland is basically an assault on your eyes. 14:39:13 <Ammler> because it isn't that toyish anymore ;-) 14:39:22 <planetmaker> yes, might be. 14:39:31 <planetmaker> So what? :-) It still is. 14:39:36 <nekomaster> lawl 14:39:57 <nekomaster> well, btw, Ive been lookign around, but where can I get the Aussie Climate? 14:40:05 <nekomaster> ive been seeing screenies with it 14:40:12 *** Frankr has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 14:40:17 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v Frankr 14:42:05 <nekomaster> hmm 14:43:25 *** Doorslammer has quit IRC 14:45:47 <nekomaster> *sits* 14:53:42 <nekomaster> what happen? 15:09:26 <jonty-comp> nothing 15:09:58 <planetmaker> jonty-comp, sorry to see that your repo access doesn't work. Maybe I can check your IP again? 15:13:17 <jonty-comp> at the moment it is 88.104.23.73 15:13:29 <jonty-comp> as confirmed my by modem and whatismyip.com 15:13:34 <jonty-comp> *by my 15:13:44 <Ammler> could you visit http://dev.openttdcoop.org 15:13:51 <Ammler> just to verify it on our side. 15:14:04 <jonty-comp> there, I just loaded it 15:15:17 <Ammler> yes, same IP I see. 15:31:56 <planetmaker> hm.. damn... how did I check the blocked IPs? 15:32:03 <nekomaster> hmm 15:33:02 <planetmaker> nvm 15:33:20 <planetmaker> not blocked 15:55:14 *** Mark has quit IRC 15:55:40 *** Mark has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 15:55:52 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v Mark 16:04:20 *** nekomaster has quit IRC 16:15:35 <Ammler> the url is on the ssh guide 16:18:02 <Brot6> 2cctrainset: nightly compile not needed. (r267) 16:18:02 <Brot6> firs: nightly compile not needed. (r217) 16:18:02 <Brot6> fish: nightly compile not needed. (r99) 16:18:03 <Brot6> heqs: nightly compile not needed. (r169) 16:18:03 <Brot6> opengfx: nightly compile not needed. (r200) 16:18:03 <Brot6> opensfx: nightly compile not needed. (r41) 16:18:04 <Brot6> worldairlineset: nightly compile not needed. (r532) 17:53:44 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: New Monorail & Maglev TrainSet - Feature #524: BR Intercontinental HSML - Code @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/524#change-1362 (by lawton27) 18:04:24 *** Chris_Booth has quit IRC 18:04:50 *** Chris_Booth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 18:05:02 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v Chris_Booth 18:07:50 *** Chris_Booth is now known as Guest1672 18:08:00 *** Chris_Booth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 18:08:12 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v Chris_Booth 18:11:48 *** Chris_Booth has quit IRC 18:13:59 *** Guest1672 has quit IRC 18:17:04 *** Chris_Booth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 18:17:16 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v Chris_Booth 18:35:19 *** Chris_Booth has quit IRC 18:57:48 *** DJNekkid has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 18:57:53 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v DJNekkid 18:58:12 <DJNekkid> hi guys :) 18:58:18 <DJNekkid> ever thought about "long trains" ? 19:00:19 <DJNekkid> i mean, pretty much the only thing that looks _somewhat_ real is the TGV's 19:00:46 <DJNekkid> and they do actually have a bit shorter wagons then other "normal" trains 19:01:11 <DJNekkid> TGV vs ICE3 ... both are pretty damn close to 200m long, but a TGV is 10 units long, while the ICE3 is 8 19:02:08 <Ammler> DJNekkid: proportions are bit other in the TTD world ;-) 19:02:15 <DJNekkid> i know 19:02:24 <Ammler> a train longer than around 10 tiles looks silly 19:02:54 <Ammler> but 2cc set doesn't limit length, does it? 19:02:59 <DJNekkid> i know... 19:03:06 <DJNekkid> no it dont 19:03:46 <Ammler> hmm, afaik, someone once tried to patch openttd to support longer vehicels 19:04:15 <Ammler> in 32bpp extra zoom level thread. 19:04:17 <DJNekkid> with some neat tricks i think it actually might work to make "long trains" 19:04:24 <DJNekkid> in other words: 19:04:29 <Ammler> you mean articulated? 19:04:35 <DJNekkid> an oversized sprite, with an invicible articulated part 19:04:49 <Ammler> and how does that look in curves? 19:04:54 <Rubidium> oversize sprites == unfixable glitches 19:04:54 <DJNekkid> i dont know, yet 19:05:02 <Ammler> or in tunnels 19:05:30 <Ammler> it might be nice for screenshots 19:05:42 <Ammler> but watching them in action..., dunno. 19:06:46 <DJNekkid> option is to make a "long" vehicle a two parter 19:10:29 <Ammler> DJNekkid: I am fully agree, it would look more realistic, as TTD shows the around in half length 19:11:22 <Ammler> but the game mechanics might not able to support it, but try to make something, didn't George try something similar with LV? 19:11:35 <DJNekkid> i think so 19:14:26 <DJNekkid> to much to do, and so little time 19:15:32 <DJNekkid> and damn, why did they cancel Sarah Connor Chronicles ... 19:15:44 <Ammler> :-) 19:16:02 <Ammler> I will never get, how the amis cancel a show 19:16:20 <DJNekkid> not popular ... enough 19:20:02 <Rubidium> the reasons to cancel a show are simple: I am watching it 19:20:17 <DJNekkid> yea ... i kinda feel the same... 19:20:18 <Rubidium> the reason why e.g. the bold and the beautiful still runs 19:20:44 <DJNekkid> lol 19:20:52 <DJNekkid> the bald and the beautiful :P 19:21:27 <Ammler> or criminal ident or how those all are called 19:21:41 <DJNekkid> CSI ? 19:21:41 <Ammler> at least Dexter won't be canceled. 19:22:12 <Ammler> one of the criminal series I watch 19:22:27 <Ammler> CSI is something else to cancel :-P 19:22:42 <DJNekkid> and why isnt 24 canceled? 19:22:58 <Ammler> well, that was nice too. 19:23:26 <Rubidium> DJNekkid: because I am not watching 24 19:23:29 <Rubidium> Q.E.D. 19:23:32 <Ammler> hehe 19:23:36 <DJNekkid> i never liked 24... 19:23:45 <DJNekkid> thus, never saw it, thus never canceled 19:23:50 <Ammler> Rubidium: did you watch Out... 19:23:58 <Ammler> mäh I forgot it already. 19:24:30 <Ammler> Odyssey 5? 19:25:37 <Rubidium> apparantly I did 19:27:43 <Ammler> well, it could happen, they make at least a movie later, like with Firefly. 19:38:43 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: New Monorail & Maglev TrainSet - Feature #558: Gemini Monorail - CODE @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/558 (by lawton27) 19:43:05 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: New Monorail & Maglev TrainSet - Feature #559: Bombardier Z35 and HSML - CODE @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/559 (by lawton27) 19:45:33 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: New Monorail & Maglev TrainSet - Feature #560: Pegasus - CODE @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/560 (by lawton27) 19:45:33 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: New Monorail & Maglev TrainSet - Feature #561: Brennan gyroscopic - CODE @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/561 (by lawton27) 19:48:37 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: New Monorail & Maglev TrainSet - Feature #503: Draw Hyundai Rotem Maglev @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/503#change-1363 (by lawton27) 19:48:37 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: New Monorail & Maglev TrainSet - Feature #562: Transrapid 02 and 03 - CODE @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/562 (by lawton27) 19:52:20 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: New Monorail & Maglev TrainSet - Feature #563: 2cc Chimaera apear in nmts @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/563 (by lawton27) 19:57:34 *** zachanima has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 19:57:44 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v zachanima 20:21:48 *** Brot6_ has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 20:21:48 *** Brot6 has quit IRC 20:22:21 *** Brot6_ has quit IRC 20:22:37 *** Brot6 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 20:22:42 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v Brot6 20:30:12 *** ODM has quit IRC 21:27:13 *** Mark has quit IRC 21:30:53 *** Mark has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 21:31:03 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v Mark 21:31:26 *** Mark is now known as Guest1698 21:34:46 *** Chris_Booth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 21:35:01 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v Chris_Booth 21:56:17 *** Chris_Booth has quit IRC 23:30:14 *** Guest1698 has quit IRC 23:30:14 *** Brot6 has quit IRC 23:30:14 *** FooBar has quit IRC 23:30:14 *** Hirundo has quit IRC 23:30:14 *** Ammler has quit IRC 23:30:14 *** openttdcoop has quit IRC 23:30:14 *** DJNekkid has quit IRC 23:30:14 *** jonty-comp has quit IRC 23:30:14 *** tneo has quit IRC 23:30:14 *** planetmaker has quit IRC 23:30:14 *** XeryusTC has quit IRC 23:30:14 *** SmatZ has quit IRC 23:30:14 *** Rubidium has quit IRC 23:30:14 *** zachanima has quit IRC 23:30:14 *** Frankr has quit IRC 23:31:08 *** Brot6 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 23:31:08 *** Ammler has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 23:31:08 *** Hirundo has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 23:31:08 *** FooBar has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 23:31:08 *** reticulum.oftc.net sets mode: +vvvv Brot6 Ammler Hirundo FooBar 23:31:08 *** openttdcoop has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 23:31:08 *** reticulum.oftc.net sets mode: +ov openttdcoop openttdcoop 23:31:21 *** Rubidium has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 23:31:21 *** venus.oftc.net sets mode: +v Rubidium 23:31:37 *** DJNekkid has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 23:31:37 *** jonty-comp has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 23:31:37 *** tneo has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 23:31:37 *** planetmaker has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 23:31:37 *** solenoid.oftc.net sets mode: +vvvv DJNekkid jonty-comp tneo planetmaker 23:31:37 *** SmatZ has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 23:31:37 *** XeryusTC has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 23:31:37 *** solenoid.oftc.net sets mode: +vv SmatZ XeryusTC 23:31:46 *** Guest1698 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 23:31:46 *** kilo.oftc.net sets mode: +v Guest1698 23:31:50 *** zachanima has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 23:31:50 *** Frankr has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 23:31:50 *** galapagos.oftc.net sets mode: +vv zachanima Frankr