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00:01:56 * Frankr is off to play poker 00:02:01 <Frankr> bbl 00:17:43 <Ammler> DJNekkid: see you on semi final :-) 01:04:01 <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: Autopilot - Patch #51: rcon for irc voice <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/51#change-2012> 01:04:22 * PeterT ^ 01:04:59 *** welshdragon has quit IRC 01:05:51 *** welshdragon has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 01:10:36 *** Frankr has quit IRC 01:19:23 <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: Autopilot - Patch #51: rcon for irc voice <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/51#change-2013> 01:19:44 <PeterT> that was suprisingly quick 01:20:14 <Ammler> it does pull 01:34:40 <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: Autopilot - Patch #51: rcon for irc voice (or other user states) <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/51#change-2013> || Autopilot - Patch #51: rcon for irc voice (or other user states) <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/51#change-2012> 01:46:03 *** KenjiE20 has quit IRC 02:04:59 *** PeterT_ has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 02:15:25 *** PeterT_ has quit IRC 02:18:04 *** PeterT_ has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 03:14:32 *** Frankr has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 04:57:26 *** welshdragon has quit IRC 05:29:14 *** Frankr has quit IRC 08:53:49 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 09:53:54 *** yorick has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 11:08:28 *** welshdragon has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 11:28:15 *** welshdragon has quit IRC 11:35:18 *** KenjiE20 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 11:45:51 <Rubidium> planetmaker: what's the point of doing a full compile for 'make clean && make clean' with OpenGFX? 11:47:06 <Ammler> Rubidium: I guess, none. :-) 11:49:02 <planetmaker> There's not much point and I consider it a bug 11:56:51 <Ammler> maybe yorick makes a patch? ;-) 11:57:34 <planetmaker> he :-P 11:57:47 <planetmaker> I started re-writing the makefiles to a bit easier to maintain thing 11:58:15 <planetmaker> making it the same for the projects as much as possible. They divereged already too much again to make it maintainable 11:58:22 <planetmaker> easily at least 11:58:22 * yorick feels talked about 12:18:20 *** DJNekkid has quit IRC 12:48:27 <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: OpenSFX - Code Review #752 (New): Some build system patch from Debian <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/752> || OpenGFX - Code Review #751 (New): Some build system patches from Debian <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/751> 12:56:41 <Ammler> planetmaker: fixed in r70 ^ 12:58:35 <planetmaker> I guess so :-) 12:59:25 <Ammler> just liked to add the comment, but then it came the msg that someone else made a post... :-P 12:59:59 <planetmaker> :-) I added the version info. Thx 13:01:19 <yorick> Scons! 13:01:29 <yorick> it's like makefile, but better 13:01:58 <Ammler> for version 0.4 maybe ;-) 13:02:10 <planetmaker> Ammler, it proved again that these announcements by Webster are quite nice :-) 13:02:18 <planetmaker> ^ KenjiE20 also 13:02:44 <Ammler> yeah, I am thinking about setup a bot again, so we can push the messages 13:02:50 <Ammler> (realtime) 13:03:29 <Ammler> or KenjiE20 moves the bot to our server :-) 13:03:31 <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: OpenSFX - Code Review #752 (Feedback): Some build system patch from Debian <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/752#change-2015" target="_blank">http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/752#change-2015> || OpenSFX - Code Review #752 (Feedback): Some build system patch from Debian <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/752> 13:06:38 <Ammler> oh 13:07:19 <Ammler> I need to test if make install INSTALLDIR="/usr/share/openttd/data" still works 13:07:24 <Ammler> since you changed it to := 13:07:44 <yorick> I think it should 13:07:51 <yorick> but there shouldn't be any need to make that := 13:07:56 <yorick> not much is evaluated there 13:10:17 <planetmaker> yes, please do, Ammler 13:10:24 <planetmaker> though it *should* 13:11:37 <Ammler> planetmaker: maybe we could make a 0.2.2 release as a kind of RC for opengfx 13:13:01 <Ammler> Rubidium: do you need to define the version of the basesets in the installer? 13:13:41 <Ammler> if so, maybe you do something like opengfx-latest.tar.bz2 and symlink it 13:15:52 <Ammler> hmm, maybe too much effort, there are more openttd releases than basesets will be... 13:15:59 <Rubidium> Ammler: no, I only define the lowest version of OpenTTD that supports it in there. That way if we make a base set that isn't supported in e.g. 1.3 we just distribute a <1.3 and a >=1.3 version 13:16:51 <Rubidium> Ammler: http://ftp.snt.utwente.nl/pub/games/openttd/binaries/installer/ <- that's what's used 13:16:51 <Ammler> ah, so already supported :-) 13:17:33 <Rubidium> actually I can remove open[gs]fx-0.2.0* from there :) 13:18:13 <planetmaker> yes, might seem appropriate. It doesn't have all sprites ;-) 13:18:21 <planetmaker> (shading button) 13:18:43 <Ammler> planetmaker: nobody does download manually from that dir and the installer shouldn't 13:19:24 <Ammler> but maybe we should add a "latest" to the bundles release dir 13:19:46 <planetmaker> not sure it's needed. Though a symlink updated doesn't hurt 13:20:19 <planetmaker> hm... maybe similar to the .../download-grfcodec links? 13:20:38 <Rubidium> Ammler: the installer directory is NOT for general downloads 13:21:08 <Rubidium> also it is ONLY updated when I do it 13:21:12 <planetmaker> :-O OpenMSX is also already there :-) 13:21:54 <planetmaker> btw, half the translators gave me already a translation of the ingame description 13:22:49 <planetmaker> hm, those are strange version numbers used there, Rubidium 13:23:01 <Ammler> version of min. openttd 13:23:03 <Rubidium> oh, they didn't update the forum posts? 13:23:21 <planetmaker> 1/3 replies did. 13:23:22 <Rubidium> planetmaker: can you pm me the strings + language, then I can update my local repository 13:23:28 <planetmaker> Terkhen and tsjook pm'ed me. 13:24:08 <planetmaker> yes, I could also commit it tonight as I added it already locally this morning 13:24:28 <Ammler> why do you guys don't push? 13:24:29 <planetmaker> I didn't ask for a "default" string, there I'll use the OpenGFX one. 13:24:42 <planetmaker> Ammler, two strings didn't seem worth the push 13:24:54 <Ammler> one char is worth the push 13:25:09 <Ammler> if you commit it 13:25:11 <planetmaker> yes and no :-) 13:25:22 <Rubidium> but it's probably not yet committed :) 13:25:22 <planetmaker> I haven't commited locally. But edited 13:28:32 <planetmaker> sent you the translations 13:28:42 <Ammler> do you add localized translations, if they are equal? 13:28:53 <planetmaker> I would do it 13:29:29 <Ammler> just wondering about en_US 13:29:39 <Ammler> I won't submit de_CH :-P 13:29:45 <planetmaker> :-( 13:30:03 <Ammler> well, not before it got added to openttd... 13:30:07 <planetmaker> adding some unsued pieces of information :-P 13:31:55 <Ammler> don't 13:34:37 <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: OpenSFX - Code Review #752: Some build system patch from Debian <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/752#change-2016> 13:36:09 <Rubidium> I did add en_US just to 'show' that it was not not translated 13:37:44 <Rubidium> planetmaker: okay, so waiting for fi and hu :) 13:37:50 <planetmaker> yeah 13:38:41 <XeryusTC> planetmaker: it would be cool if the newgrf_makefile would indicate it is doing something as soon as it starts running 13:38:46 <planetmaker> If you want to commit them fine, but tell me, fine with me, just not that I'll have an unncessary merge ;-) 13:39:00 <planetmaker> XeryusTC, in what way? 13:39:10 <XeryusTC> it is quite annoying to see it do nothing, and then take half of the time it spend doing nothing with displaying messages and compiling the newgrf 13:39:31 <planetmaker> Yes... they just got quite a bit faster :-P Last Monday 13:39:58 <planetmaker> Also it's nothing I can change easily 13:39:58 <XeryusTC> yes, but basicly i was clueless if it did something before i decided to wait more than 15 seconds :P 13:40:37 <XeryusTC> and until i ran it in a non-repository setup, then it complained about no .hg directories instead of being completely silent 13:40:41 <planetmaker> It's the initial variable assignment which takes a bit 13:43:10 <XeryusTC> ah ok, i can understand that you wont display all those details 13:43:29 <XeryusTC> maybe it is useful to just display a message at first to tell it's started 13:43:55 <Ammler> XeryusTC: the new makefiles are 20 times faster 13:45:01 <XeryusTC> hmm, i checked out these makefiles this morning 13:45:10 <XeryusTC> but well, i'll manage to survive it anyway 13:45:13 <XeryusTC> off to shower now 13:46:30 <Ammler> dunno, where pm ported the speed-fix already 13:46:50 <Ammler> maybe not to the generic one, which did you co? 13:50:14 <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: Modern Station Set - Revision 1: Changed to a new Makefile system <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/modernstationset/repository/revisions/1> || Redmine - Revision 3321: Reduces spacing on the bulk edit form. <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/redmine/repository/revisions/3321> || Redmine - Revision 3320: Bulk edit refactoring. <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/redmine/repository/revisions/3320> || Redmine - Revision 3319: Move hardcoded calendar images to css classes. <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/redmine/repository/revisions/3319> || Redmine - Revision 3318: Fixed view_issues_move_bottom hook arguments (#4893). <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/redmine/repository/revisions/3318> 13:55:03 <Ammler> XeryusTC: http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/opengfx/repository/revisions/301 <-- = -> := 13:57:36 *** welshdragon has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 14:00:12 <planetmaker> XeryusTC, well. I didn't commit it to every repo, I have to admit 14:00:21 <planetmaker> especially not the example newgrf makefile ;-) 14:03:27 <planetmaker> Rubidium, closed or rejected removes an issue from the open list 14:03:35 <Rubidium> why doesn't resolved? 14:03:58 <Rubidium> doesn't resolved more imply that the issue doesn't need any more work? 14:04:01 <planetmaker> it's a status which is meant to be used by a reporter to say that the proposed solution works 14:04:04 <Ammler> resolved expect feedback 14:04:18 <Ammler> planetmaker: no 14:04:22 <Ammler> ah 14:04:26 <planetmaker> and close / reject by the maintainers 14:05:11 <Rubidium> oh, then I like flyspray more w.r.t. closing bugs / updating the state 14:05:19 <planetmaker> sure, it could be changed... But actually I wouldn't have any reporter be able to close issues from the list :-) 14:05:21 <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: OpenSFX - Code Review #752 (Closed): Some build system patch from Debian <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/752#change-2019" target="_blank">http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/752#change-2019> || OpenSFX - Code Review #752 (Resolved): Some build system patch from Debian <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/752#change-2017" target="_blank">http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/752#change-2017> || OpenSFX - Code Review #752 (Closed): Some build system patch from Debian <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/752> 14:05:41 <Ammler> Rubidium: it is configurable at all ;-) 14:05:42 <planetmaker> Rubidium, it's up to you (or rather us here) to decide which wording closes issues from the open list and what not 14:06:04 <planetmaker> I can at FS also only request closure 14:06:20 <Rubidium> planetmaker: true 14:06:29 <Ammler> planetmaker: reporter can't set it to "resolved", I would assume 14:06:45 <Rubidium> but 'resolved (can be closed now)' is way way way clearer than just 'resolved' 14:06:53 <Ammler> http://dev.openttdcoop.org/workflows 14:07:04 <planetmaker> Rubidium, got a point with that 14:07:31 <Rubidium> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?repeatmerged=no&src=openttd <- here resolved is fixed/closed 14:08:00 <Rubidium> Ammler: yay for 403 workflows :) 14:08:07 <planetmaker> :-D 14:08:13 <planetmaker> Ammler, admin only, I guess ;-) 14:08:52 <Ammler> well, wrong page anyway 14:08:59 <planetmaker> http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issue_statuses 14:09:19 <Rubidium> that's the same page :) 14:09:25 <planetmaker> :-P 14:11:18 <planetmaker> http://img.ammler.ch/images/redminerol.png <-- like that, Rubidium 14:12:24 <Ammler> non-members can only "reopen" a ticket 14:14:53 <planetmaker> he... But the issue state names must be without either space or backets 14:15:12 <Ammler> for example, if pm opens a ticket, I let him also close it to be sure, he is fine with my change 14:15:22 <Ammler> so I set it resolved 14:15:39 <Ammler> (if I made the "work") 14:15:57 <planetmaker> Ammler, you would rather set it to 'feedback', I to 'resolved' and you then to 'closed' ;-) 14:16:20 <planetmaker> close = person doing the work in my understanding 14:16:27 <Ammler> if you open the door, you close it, don't you? 14:16:46 <planetmaker> nope. I couldn't, if I wasnt' a project contributor 14:17:24 <Ammler> i.e. a reporter can close a ticket, but not resolve it, afaik 14:18:21 <planetmaker> uh? 14:18:59 <planetmaker> The other way around, I'd say. But it depends upon how you understand 'resolve'. I understand it as 'declare resolved' 14:19:15 <planetmaker> not as actively resolve something. That's the maintainers job 14:19:23 <planetmaker> +' 14:20:04 <Ammler> then you might see it like Rubi 14:20:09 <Ammler> I see it like Redmine :-P 14:20:11 <Rubidium> so resolved on feedback basically means: "the patch you posted works" and closed means "the fix has been commited" 14:20:39 <Ammler> depense on the review 14:20:48 <Ammler> do you review before or after commit? 14:21:49 <Rubidium> yes 14:21:59 <Ammler> I wouldn't "bind" it to the commit state 14:22:29 <Ammler> rather to the workflow, you can resolve a issue with submit a patch to the issue or commit 14:23:20 <Ammler> afaik, devs weren't able to "close" ticket in the default workflow 14:23:36 <Ammler> only reporters and managers 14:24:01 <Rubidium> ah, so it's intended for use in a company where some manager needs to review stuff 14:24:16 <Ammler> I guess so 14:24:39 <Ammler> well, not really sure anymore, what the default workflow were 14:24:45 <planetmaker> <Rubidium> so resolved on feedback basically means: "the patch you posted works" and closed means "the fix has been commited" <-- that's how I understand it to work here 14:25:27 <Ammler> I see it like I have done the work and want feedback 14:25:27 <planetmaker> though a commit which mentions the issue # appropriately will close it (seems like FS also works) 14:25:53 <Ammler> but sometimes, I don't need feedback, so I close it right away. 14:26:15 <Ammler> feedback also means review... 14:27:09 <Ammler> planetmaker: on startup, we set it to resolved and 90% :-) 14:27:44 <Ammler> you need a keyword to close the issue 14:27:44 <planetmaker> too much hassle 14:27:52 <Ammler> else it just "links" 14:28:00 <planetmaker> yes, I know :-) 14:28:13 <planetmaker> fixes,closes,fix,close,bug,fixed,feature 14:28:20 <planetmaker> ^ one of those 14:28:39 <planetmaker> refs,references,Issue,add,updated,part of,part,* <-- for reference 14:28:42 <Ammler> feature might be one of those which should just go to resolved 14:29:00 <Ammler> well, * :-) 14:29:12 <planetmaker> :-P 14:30:14 <Ammler> Rubidium: you don't "autoclose" on FS, do you? 14:30:34 <planetmaker> My bet is they do. The time interval is too close 14:31:55 <Ammler> I think, the don't, the text differs 14:32:52 <planetmaker> Nah, they just can add a custom command to closed issues, like we can also. 14:33:05 <planetmaker> s/command/text/ 14:33:30 <Ammler> we can? 14:33:39 <planetmaker> I can edit any closed issue 14:33:49 <Ammler> ah, indeed 14:33:52 <planetmaker> mr_unknown can't. 14:34:10 <Rubidium> we don't have autoclose 14:34:20 <planetmaker> really? That surprises me :-) 14:34:29 <Ammler> they are just fast :-P 14:34:36 <planetmaker> yeah, indeed 14:35:32 <Rubidium> FS is just not slow :) 14:35:40 <planetmaker> :-P 14:36:21 <planetmaker> Well... I like it, though, that I can commit and close at the same time, if I know the ticket number 14:37:17 <planetmaker> it could be changed to change the ticket status to anything we desire though. But it'd be a global setting for the whole DevZone. 14:40:56 <Rubidium> yeah, but it requires some linking between the two 14:41:07 <Rubidium> which is non-trivial and means local modifications 14:41:13 <Rubidium> and those we, like orudge, rather avoid 14:43:06 <planetmaker> understandably, makes maintenance a hassle. 14:43:46 <planetmaker> Might have been thinkable though that FS offers this linkage natively. ;-) 14:44:04 <planetmaker> And I never could be bothered to look into FS internals too deeply. 14:46:52 *** welshdragon has quit IRC 14:49:38 <planetmaker> especially after I was told that it is not maintained anymore ;-) 14:50:14 <Rubidium> it's more or less maintained like OpenSFX I think 14:50:27 *** yorick has quit IRC 14:51:06 <planetmaker> thrown together and then only sporadically something changed? 14:51:39 <planetmaker> or written and then declared "done"? 14:52:11 <planetmaker> (I prefer neither description really wrt OpenSFX) 14:52:11 <Rubidium> written and then working on a 1.0.0 release but that's going incredibly horribly slow 14:54:27 <Rubidium> planetmaker: don't forget a .hgignore for openmsx 14:55:10 *** Frankr has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 14:55:26 <planetmaker> he, yeah, that's a good description 14:55:36 <planetmaker> hm, .hgignore. yes, also :-) 14:55:55 <Rubidium> there is some progress on FS (i.e. it's not totally unmaintained, the pace is just dead slow) 15:01:58 <planetmaker> he... 15:02:18 <planetmaker> the "it works" phenomenon 15:07:04 <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: OpenMSX - Revision 3: Add: .hgignore might be useful <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/openmsx/repository/revisions/3> 15:08:20 *** Frankr has quit IRC 15:08:45 *** Frankr has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 15:11:25 <Ammler> planetmaker: .renum dir is a local issue 15:11:42 <planetmaker> is it? 15:12:02 <planetmaker> hm, but there's no point in OpenMsx for it anyway 15:12:05 <Ammler> well, it might be useful, as some have buggy local configs 15:12:29 <Ammler> pm, like DS_Store and Thumb.db 15:12:52 <planetmaker> hm, yes... Could be. Should be. 15:13:03 <Ammler> if I have a mac are windows, I would add those to my local global .hgignore 15:13:14 <Ammler> or* 15:13:15 <planetmaker> it's not generated by the repo. Yes. 15:13:42 <planetmaker> Those entries originate from a time when I didn't know about the global .hgignore ;-) 15:14:26 <Ammler> anyway, those might be helpful for people not configuring their local hg properly 15:14:36 <Ammler> and than use hg addremove 15:14:55 * planetmaker despises addremove 15:15:00 <Ammler> I saw that on WAS :-) 15:15:30 * planetmaker also never used it. And never advocated it even for some thought ease of use 15:15:35 <Frankr> ?? Ammler 15:17:01 <Frankr> i use hg add and then hg remove seperately 15:17:27 <Ammler> Frankr: that is fine :-P 15:17:33 <Frankr> or hg rename, faddy otoh i don't think did and messed the repo up, i need to look at it 15:18:26 <Frankr> but my edition has so many changes i don't want to push atm as they are incomplete additions 15:18:48 <Frankr> so i don't think WAS has worked for the last week regards nightlies, :( 15:18:55 <Ammler> check my ugly commits r57-61 15:20:21 <Frankr> yh, i remember 15:20:53 <Frankr> :) 16:08:27 *** DJNekkid has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 16:08:37 <planetmaker> Moin DJNekkid 16:09:09 <planetmaker> Do you know actually who drew which trains / sprites within the 2cctrainset? 16:09:45 <planetmaker> and... I wonder about the title of the mail ;-) - I expected a different number :-P 16:10:00 <Ammler> planetmaker: if not, afaik, you need to ask at least Coyote 16:10:35 <Ammler> DanMacK has PublicDomain so that is fine 16:10:35 <planetmaker> who's coyote? 16:10:44 <Ammler> willy e coyoate 16:10:51 <Ammler> the serbian set guy 16:11:01 <planetmaker> ah, that guy :-) 16:11:02 <Ammler> made the waggons, afaik 16:11:41 <planetmaker> right... But he's not in the recipients list (or I don't see it as it's limited to 5 people only as I found out) 16:12:06 <Frankr> DJNekkid 16:12:42 <Ammler> http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/2cctrainset/repository/entry/docs/readme.txt#L147 16:12:49 <Frankr> I only caught part of what you said about your Leaseback idea, i'm quite interested but what do you mean exactly? 16:13:24 <planetmaker> right. 16:13:32 <Ammler> you need tt-forums nick? 16:13:35 <planetmaker> Btw, DJNekkid: you should change project co-ordinator to your name 16:15:03 <planetmaker> Frankr, running costs += purchase price / 3 for the first 3 years 16:15:58 <planetmaker> Ammler, aren't those the tt-forum nicks? 16:16:27 <Ammler> no idea, refer to "not in the recipients list" 16:17:09 <planetmaker> no, I mean those mentioned in the link you gave? Their tt-forum names at least are not much different from the name as displayed there. 16:17:38 <planetmaker> there's bastiaan and BlueEagle_nl on the recipient's list 16:17:56 <planetmaker> dunno if either is snail, but I guess not 16:18:06 <Ammler> hmm, remove me from that list on next readme update ;-) 16:18:24 <planetmaker> why? 16:18:56 <Ammler> I only did a a bit superbus coding, iirc 16:19:10 <Ammler> and that will be gone on v2, I assume 16:19:40 <planetmaker> you have 26 commits, which is about 5% 16:19:49 <Ammler> :-D 16:20:18 <planetmaker> @calc 26/458 16:20:18 <Webster> planetmaker: 0.056768558952 16:20:31 <planetmaker> @calc 174/458 16:20:31 <Webster> planetmaker: 0.379912663755 16:20:54 <planetmaker> @calc 249/458 16:20:54 <Webster> planetmaker: 0.543668122271 16:21:03 <planetmaker> who's the rest, though? ;-) 16:21:47 <Ammler> http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/2cctrainset/repository/statistics 16:22:03 <planetmaker> Hm, five by hirundo, 3 more by DJ, one by me and one by you. 16:23:36 <planetmaker> @calc 10/458 16:23:36 <Webster> planetmaker: 0.0218340611354 16:23:57 <planetmaker> @calc 10+249+174+26 16:23:57 <Webster> planetmaker: 459 16:24:17 <planetmaker> :-D I didn't count r0 16:25:00 <Rubidium> all those duplicates 16:25:09 <planetmaker> quite ugly, yeah 16:26:36 <Ammler> yeah, sadly, it doesn't respect the user mapping 16:26:51 <planetmaker> where can I see the user mapping? 16:27:18 <Ammler> http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/2cctrainset/repository/committers 16:27:49 <planetmaker> ah, thx. I never saw such page before :-) 16:28:18 <Ammler> settings -> Repository -> users 16:28:57 <planetmaker> did you report that to redmine already? (I assume so) 16:29:20 <Ammler> [17:23] <Ammler> the repository stats should respect the user mapping 16:29:40 <Ammler> maybe I should check the tickets ;-) 16:31:14 <planetmaker> http://www.redmine.org/issues/2624 16:31:16 <Webster> Title: Redmine - Feature #2624: Repository statistics should honour user-mapping - Redmine (at www.redmine.org) 16:31:28 <planetmaker> still open as feature request 16:32:25 <Rubidium> noes... the opensfx nightly failed! 16:32:31 <planetmaker> :-O 16:32:44 <Rubidium> why doesn't the CF tell that anymore? 16:33:20 * Rubidium pleads "not guilty" for the CF failage 16:34:00 <planetmaker> oh... and it's even down on the list :S 16:34:03 * Rubidium blames whoever changed the CF and did not install catcodec 16:34:21 <planetmaker> trali tralla 16:34:30 <Rubidium> yes, I only noticed because I saw the last modified date was a few days ago and the top release wasn't 16:35:52 <planetmaker> sorting should possibly be by date and not alphabetically... 16:37:09 <Ammler> nothing changed, just no irc bot anymore 16:37:22 <Ammler> and yes, forgot :'-( 16:37:22 <Rubidium> and just no catcodec 16:37:29 <planetmaker> I just installed it. 16:37:43 <planetmaker> Ammler, nice that it's available already via zypper :-) 16:37:43 <Ammler> zypper in catcodec 16:37:54 <planetmaker> sudo zypper install catcodec 16:39:02 <Ammler> currently, it doesn't autoupdate, only the "openttdcoop" package does. 16:39:12 <planetmaker> he. And CF won't run since there was no commit since the last run... 16:39:14 <planetmaker> strange 16:39:38 <Ammler> he, how do you run it? 16:39:57 <Ammler> then, it didn't fail 16:40:15 <planetmaker> ./compile-farm.sh opensfx 16:40:47 <planetmaker> but the last version available is r69 while the repo is r71 (what it just told me in the error message) 16:40:50 <Ammler> then it does still make a zip? 16:40:57 <planetmaker> doesn't seem like 16:41:02 <planetmaker> at least not in bundles 16:41:19 <Ammler> the last zip should be like REV 16:41:44 <planetmaker> yeah 16:42:38 <Ammler> ah 16:42:48 <Ammler> it didn't fail because of bad commits :-P 16:42:54 <planetmaker> eh? 16:43:16 <Ammler> the cf does assume, you made bad commit 16:43:26 <planetmaker> yes. 16:43:37 <Ammler> just remove REV_ERROR from bundles 16:43:43 <planetmaker> REV needs deleting? 16:43:49 <Ammler> no REV_ERRors 16:43:51 <planetmaker> ok 16:44:47 <planetmaker> jo. working 16:45:59 <planetmaker> Ammler, can we make the web-output such that newest files are up? 16:46:04 <planetmaker> And not alphabetically? 16:46:15 <Ammler> yes, we could 16:46:18 <planetmaker> And / or announce compile failures here again? 16:46:28 <Ammler> ask KenjiE20 :-P 16:46:32 <planetmaker> :-P 16:46:53 <Ammler> hmm, we could create a ticket on failed compile 16:47:44 <planetmaker> good point 16:48:19 <planetmaker> Rubidium, thanks for telling :-) 16:48:31 <planetmaker> Current nightly of OpenSFX is now up 16:48:48 <Ammler> current, lol 16:48:56 <Ammler> well, it is. 16:49:09 <planetmaker> well... bad wording ;-) 17:35:32 <Frankr> can either of you help me on this point 17:36:13 <Frankr> i have defined this at the start 79 * 16 04 03 FF 01 \wxd018 " Emirates" 00 17:37:02 <Frankr> and i want to implement this inside another text -1 * 0 04 03 FF 01 \wxd0AA "Liveries: \d0 00" 00 17:38:28 <Frankr> well for a start i've just realised the 00 inside the "" shouldn't be there, but it still doesn't want to work 17:50:51 <DJNekkid> sorry, i were afk until now 17:51:06 <Frankr> hello DJNekkid 17:51:21 <DJNekkid> but planetmaker; no, i do not know who drew what train... 17:51:25 <DJNekkid> in general 17:51:32 <DJNekkid> all engines and mus by purno 17:51:40 <DJNekkid> steamers by snail and danmack 17:51:47 <DJNekkid> pax wagons by purno 17:51:54 <DJNekkid> and other wagons ... i dunno tbh 17:52:04 <DJNekkid> danmack i _think_ 17:53:09 <planetmaker> the readme says coyote 17:53:31 <planetmaker> the serbian guy 17:54:40 <DJNekkid> then i assume thats true ... not me that made the readme 17:57:08 <DJNekkid> :D 17:57:31 <Frankr> :( 17:58:09 <planetmaker> Frankr, if you have the solution, please show me :-) 17:58:22 * planetmaker is now off for the evening 17:58:24 <Frankr> i don't 17:58:44 <DJNekkid> what is it that you are trying to add Frankr ? 17:58:47 <Frankr> it just keeps saying text id D0 18 not known 17:58:48 <DJNekkid> P-list text? 17:59:17 <DJNekkid> but what the crap is \d0 00 ? 17:59:39 <Frankr> it should be \d0 17:59:45 <DJNekkid> either way, what is that? 18:00:00 <Frankr> the Emirates livery name 18:00:10 <DJNekkid> oh ... you are trying stacks ? 18:00:37 <Frankr> yh 18:00:51 <DJNekkid> i thought that were a var2 18:02:19 <Frankr> http://wiki.ttdpatch.net/tiki-index.php?page=StringCodes 18:02:28 <Frankr> that is where i got it from 18:04:02 <DJNekkid> hmm 18:04:04 <DJNekkid> let me see 18:04:13 <Frankr> maybe it isn't openttd 18:04:59 <DJNekkid> it is! 18:05:22 <Frankr> ok, :) 18:10:23 <Frankr> it still doesn't want to work, wierd 18:12:26 <DJNekkid> hmmmmm! 18:15:58 <Frankr> hmm indeed DJ i don't think it is possible 18:19:21 <DJNekkid> hmm 18:19:47 <DJNekkid> but as i saied, i _think_ there might be a Var2 that does it 18:20:17 <DJNekkid> but andythenorth might be your man on this 18:21:17 <Frankr> ok, i'll ask him if he knows when he is online 18:21:42 <Frankr> it isn't necessary it would just mean a loads less work 18:22:36 <DJNekkid> yup... 18:23:02 <DJNekkid> well, not neccesarily 18:27:13 <Frankr> I've looked into your leaseback idea is it some kind of Action D 18:27:49 <DJNekkid> leaseback? 18:28:11 <Frankr> your idea yesterday 18:28:40 <Frankr> leasing of aircraft i thought 18:28:48 <DJNekkid> yes... 18:29:05 <DJNekkid> in my head i thought of two variants for all aircraft 18:29:10 <DJNekkid> but one of them cost alot less 18:29:14 <DJNekkid> but cost alot more to run 18:29:25 <DJNekkid> but only for a limited period of time 18:30:02 <DJNekkid> lets say 3 or 5 years 18:30:20 <DJNekkid> and after that it have a normal running cost 18:31:47 <Frankr> would that be a parameter 18:32:05 <Frankr> or would you have 2 seperate planes 18:32:39 <DJNekkid> 2 separate planes 18:36:17 <Frankr> that would mean alot of planes 18:36:58 <DJNekkid> but the two variants should be just underneeth eachother 18:37:16 <DJNekkid> and 99% of all code can be reused for both planes 18:38:12 <Frankr> true 18:38:29 <Frankr> how many planes can we have again 18:38:46 <DJNekkid> probably too few :P 18:38:53 <DJNekkid> and with too long model life 18:42:58 <Frankr> lol 18:44:40 <Frankr> the only problem i foresee with that DJ will be the running costs 18:47:05 <Frankr> I will have to increase the general base cost 18:56:14 <DJNekkid> good point 18:56:28 <DJNekkid> i keep forgetting that only trains can change running costbase 18:57:50 <Ammler> oh DJNekkid, what a nice image yesterday :-) 18:58:07 <Ammler> just saw again 19:00:14 <Frankr> no DJNekkid planes can change running cost base 19:00:50 <Frankr> just if they were really high then there would be less contrast at the bottom of the running costing 19:17:17 <DJNekkid> Ammler: nice image? 19:17:30 <DJNekkid> Frankr: i know :) 19:17:38 <DJNekkid> low resolution :) 19:17:58 <Frankr> need your word sized costs DJ 19:18:03 <Frankr> :) 19:18:11 <DJNekkid> thats what i've saied! :D 19:19:03 <DJNekkid> with word size one can have a resolution of 100£ per value, with a max of 6,5 mill :) 19:21:14 <DJNekkid> or 50 and 3,25mill :) 19:22:03 <Frankr> which would be perfect 19:22:50 <DJNekkid> aye 19:24:44 <Frankr> btw i've read while looking into the text, if it was possible to create new action 0's, i.e. range 19:25:18 <Frankr> just an idea should, i possibly put this in for later use or just leave it 19:26:42 <Frankr> so all the data is ready for people to see just it wouldn't be implemented in anyway obviously 19:27:55 <DJNekkid> that is good! 19:28:02 <DJNekkid> _sometime_ we might get it :) 19:28:48 <Frankr> i thought it could be quite useful for people anyway, as a guide 19:29:09 <DJNekkid> indeed! 19:29:12 <Frankr> if they want they have a rough idea how far it can go compared to others 19:29:21 <Frankr> :) 19:29:28 <DJNekkid> you can also add it as a purchase list text? 19:29:40 <Frankr> yh 19:30:17 <Frankr> :) 19:35:55 <DJNekkid> Frankr: look at FS#3641 19:36:18 <Frankr> ok 19:37:32 <Frankr> :) 19:42:45 <DJNekkid> hmm, i think i might go to outer space now :) 19:44:32 <Frankr> lol 19:44:56 <Frankr> i may ask about my problem on #openttd see if they know anything more 19:47:22 <DJNekkid> you do that! 20:01:11 <Frankr> DJNekkid: Well Yexo is looking into it atm so i think i will know for sure if it can actually work 20:01:57 <PeterT> @wiki devzone 20:01:59 <Webster> Search results for "devzone" - #openttdcoop Wiki - http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Special:Search?go=Go&search=devzone 20:05:07 <DJNekkid> goodie :) 20:11:31 <Frankr> well Yexo solved it 20:12:17 <Frankr> Just ignore the error DJ 20:13:12 <Frankr> Stupid me for assuming that it wouldn't work 20:13:22 <Frankr> Oh well 20:15:10 <DJNekkid> okidoki :) 20:21:37 <DJNekkid> tell me if it works 20:28:27 <Frankr> well frosch has just updated me 20:35:57 <Frankr> DJNekkid fixed properly now 20:36:21 <Frankr> -1 * 0 04 03 FF 01 \wxd0AA "Liveries: \d4" 00 20:36:44 <Frankr> have to change the d0 to d4 when using 81 and 80 20:43:03 <Frankr> planetmaker: ^^ for solution 20:49:07 <DJNekkid> 15ish mins from a new possible norwegian gold... ttyl 20:51:02 <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: World Airliners Set - Feature #754 (New): Add Liveries for each Plane in P-List <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/754> 20:52:43 <Frankr> nice Dj 20:55:47 <Ammler> DJNekkid: doesn't look like, sorry :-( 20:56:18 <Ammler> but a thriller for silver 20:56:39 <DJNekkid> it did at the time :) 20:56:46 <Ammler> yeah 20:57:04 <Ammler> well, 30 mins ago, we had chance for brozne :-P 20:57:12 <DJNekkid> hehe 20:57:40 <Frankr> :p 20:57:53 <DJNekkid> the question is what Petter can do with the other two medals 20:58:18 <DJNekkid> yea! 20:58:25 <DJNekkid> hes streight behind now!!!!!!!! 20:58:30 <Ammler> yeah, I hope you get it, as you will lose one in curling 20:58:42 <DJNekkid> i cant promise the pants will... 21:00:44 <DJNekkid> well... 21:01:02 <Ammler> grat 21:01:06 <DJNekkid> Northug took 20sec on the sweedish nr1 guy on thoose 10km.) 21:01:59 <Ammler> so then we wait for 15km on sunday... 21:02:03 <DJNekkid> 50 21:02:15 <Ammler> he, yeah :-) 21:03:17 <Ammler> sadly, it finished to sow that fast 21:03:28 <DJNekkid> sow? 21:03:33 <Ammler> snow 21:03:42 <DJNekkid> well... 21:03:52 <DJNekkid> the norwegian "loss" were on the 2nd leg 21:04:00 <DJNekkid> he did get some ice in the "rub" or something :) 21:04:04 <Ammler> the old man :-) 21:04:13 <DJNekkid> 38! :D 21:05:26 *** Seberoth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 21:13:00 *** welshdragon has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 21:20:00 <Ammler> PeterT: big giant ready to lose against little dwarf? 21:22:43 <PeterT> Hmm? 21:22:49 <PeterT> Ammler? 21:25:58 <Ammler> PeterT: hockey us-ch 21:26:08 <PeterT> we will own you! 21:26:13 <PeterT> Not really, I hate hockey 21:26:17 <PeterT> I don't really care 21:26:23 <PeterT> in-fact, good luck to you! 21:26:29 <Ammler> :-) 21:26:38 <Ammler> we need a bit more than luck :-P 21:26:51 <Ammler> but still 0:0 after 2 21:26:55 <PeterT> 2? 21:27:06 <PeterT> Sorry, not familiar with Hockey 21:27:11 <PeterT> I'm not Canadian 21:27:44 <Seberoth> Hi Ammler :) 21:58:40 *** ODM has quit IRC 23:06:43 *** Seberoth has quit IRC 23:15:27 <planetmaker> @base 16 10 228 23:15:27 <Webster> planetmaker: 552 23:15:31 <planetmaker> @base 16 10 228 23:15:31 <Webster> planetmaker: 552 23:15:33 <planetmaker> @base 16 10 628 23:15:33 <Webster> planetmaker: 1576 23:15:35 <planetmaker> @calc base 16 10 628 23:15:35 <planetmaker> ... 23:18:26 <planetmaker> @base 16 10 85 23:18:26 <Webster> planetmaker: 133 23:28:44 <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: MiniGRFs - Revision 3: Add: Presets for Base Costs Mod <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/minigrfs/repository/revisions/3> 23:43:50 <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: MiniGRFs - Revision 4: Add: BaseCosts Table from Luukland <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/minigrfs/repository/revisions/4> 23:54:20 *** welshdragon has quit IRC