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00:23:12 *** OwenS has quit IRC 07:27:21 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 09:12:00 <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: OpenGFX - Revision 449: Doc: remove "released " from dates <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/opengfx/repository/revisions/449> || OpenGFX - Revision 448: Doc: Add official mirror from openttd.org <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/opengfx/repository/revisions/448> || Redmine - Revision 3539: Merged r3698 from trunk. <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/redmine/repository/revisions/3539> || Redmine - Revision 3541: Only copy visible issues. <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/redmine/repository/revisions/3541> || Redmine - Revision 3538: Merged r3668 from trunk. <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/redmine/repository/revisions/3538> 09:44:41 * Rubidium ponders filing a bug report to OpenGFX 09:45:06 <Rubidium> I wanted to download 0.2.3, but http://binaries.openttd.org/bananas/OpenGFX-0.2.3.tar.gz returns a 404 10:18:34 <Ammler> :-) 10:35:21 *** KenjiE20 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 10:58:17 <Ammler> planetmaker: can you check opengfx hall station 10:58:30 <Ammler> I don't know, if the glass is there 10:58:43 <planetmaker> which tracks? 10:59:36 <planetmaker> Ammler, can you make me a ticket? :-) 11:01:24 <Ammler> no 11:01:36 <Ammler> it would be a shame :-$ 11:02:21 <planetmaker> :-P 11:04:48 <Ammler> I try older revisions, I miss it on 0.2.3 too 11:06:03 <planetmaker> well... the glass sprites are in the source referenced 11:06:27 <planetmaker> 862 sprites/pcx/infra06.pcx 82 4760 09 38 64 0 0 11:06:28 <planetmaker> 863 sprites/pcx/infra06.pcx 162 4760 09 38 64 0 0 11:06:28 <planetmaker> 864 sprites/pcx/infra06.pcx 242 4760 09 52 66 0 0 11:06:28 <planetmaker> 865 sprites/pcx/infra06.pcx 322 4760 09 52 66 0 0 11:07:02 <planetmaker> as there's IMHO missing the rear part of the tubular bridges 11:09:48 <planetmaker> oh oh oh. All those infra* sprites... that could use a good code-refactoring 11:14:03 <Ammler> :-) 11:15:30 <planetmaker> ugly ugly big big graphics files 11:15:37 <planetmaker> and no documentation which sprite is what 11:17:16 <planetmaker> http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/Firefox-soll-Benutzerkonten-verwalten-990791.html <-- interesting, Ammler ? 11:17:18 <Webster> Title: heise online - Firefox soll Benutzerkonten verwalten (at www.heise.de) 11:18:49 <Ammler> :-) 15:10:29 *** ODM has quit IRC 15:23:50 <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: OpenGFX - Revision 450: Revert r414: let us test grfcodec -c a bit more publicy <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/opengfx/repository/revisions/450> 15:40:10 <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: OpenGFX - Feature #903: grfcodec -c (was missing(?) sprites) <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/903#change-2465> 16:02:14 *** OwenS has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 16:12:53 <Yexo> planetmaker: instead of #902, what about adding "-D name=value" as command line argument to nml? when it's used 'name' becomes a valid tag in language files 16:13:05 <Yexo> and in other locations too, if that's useful 16:13:28 <planetmaker> how does that work with spaces for value? 16:13:44 <Yexo> -D "name=value with space" 16:13:50 <Yexo> or "-Dname=value with space" 16:14:11 <planetmaker> I've been pondering it... it'd be actually quite easy - as Ammler proposed - to just write a file which defines those tags 16:14:13 <Yexo> that way nml isn't tied to mercurial 16:14:44 <Yexo> reading those tasg from a file is another option 16:14:47 <planetmaker> like custom_tags.txt 16:15:11 <planetmaker> with each line like what you just wrote as command line argument 16:15:21 <Yexo> in that case: should the name of that file be constant (always "custom_tags.txt") or also modifiable by a commandline argument? 16:15:40 <planetmaker> for now it can be constant IMHO. 16:15:49 <Ammler> why that complicated? 16:16:14 <Ammler> why can't it be possible to write a simple "const file"? 16:16:27 <Ammler> like the rev.cpp in openttd 16:16:29 <planetmaker> Ammler: isn't that what I proposed? 16:16:30 <Yexo> Ammler: that is exactly what we are discussing now 16:17:55 <planetmaker> and yeah... writing the livery override for the turbo-train I got side-tracked to re-align all trains in OpenGFX. That's my excuse for not having done anything in that respect ;-) 16:18:25 * Yexo doesn't have any excuse :p 16:18:34 <Brot6> 2cctrainset: update from r512 to r516 done (1 errors) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/2cctrainset/nightlies/ 16:18:36 <planetmaker> be creative! ;-) 16:18:51 <Brot6> fish: update from r335 to r360 done (1 errors) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/fish/nightlies/ 16:19:28 <Brot6> opengfx: update from r442 to r450 done (0 errors) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/opengfx/nightlies/ 16:19:29 <Brot6> Following repos didn't need a update: 32bpp-extra (r31), airportsplus (r48), bros (r10), comic-houses (r69), firs (r780), heqs (r318), nmts (r15), nutracks (r59), openmsx (r49), opensfx (r88), snowlinemod (r10), worldairlineset (r636) 16:31:01 <planetmaker> DJNekkid: there's another refit-bug it seems with valuables 16:31:09 <planetmaker> (again tt-forums) 17:02:04 <DJNekkid> *investigating* 17:04:03 <DJNekkid> and: this is the "pro" (vs "con") of releaseing "near finish" or "dev" things... people use it, and report bugs :) 17:07:25 <DJNekkid> but i cannot reproduce it... 17:10:44 <Ammler> DJNekkid: and what is con about? 17:11:30 <DJNekkid> but, i suspect he is useing 1.0.1 and not 2.0.0 dev version (nightly= 17:11:32 <DJNekkid> ) 17:11:48 <DJNekkid> a con in this case would be some "closed beta test"-thing 17:12:10 <DJNekkid> and the nightlies of 2cc set are now quite playable and "near finished" 17:13:21 <Ammler> didn't you upload a 2cc to bananas? 17:13:49 <Ammler> is it only available for saves? 17:14:07 <Ammler> 2ccv2* 17:16:44 <DJNekkid> i did put up r509(ish) 17:16:53 <DJNekkid> but im not 100% sure on its availability 17:20:16 <Ammler> well, it is hidden... 17:20:22 <Ammler> with nightlies and stable 17:20:31 <DJNekkid> hmm 17:20:57 <DJNekkid> any idea on how it could be available for nightlies and not 1.0.0(openttd) 17:20:57 <Ammler> but doesn't matter 17:21:02 <Ammler> you get it with joining the server 17:21:22 <DJNekkid> but, it seems like noone is useing the server :) 17:21:34 <Ammler> true :-P 17:21:47 <Ammler> call it #openttdcoop something ;-) 17:22:23 <Ammler> wouldn't help either 17:22:29 <Ammler> as there are no binaries around 17:22:37 <DJNekkid> there is! 17:22:53 <DJNekkid> windows binaries plus linux patches plus debian builds 17:23:53 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 17:49:33 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 17:52:38 *** frosch123 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 18:46:48 <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: NFO Meta Language - Feature #902 (Closed): Versioning of newgrfs <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/902#change-2466> || NFO Meta Language - Revision 126: Feature: read custom_tags.txt which contains extra tags that ca... <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/nml/repository/revisions/126> 18:48:26 <Yexo> planetmaker: format of custom_tags.txt is the same as the language files, ie "name :value" 18:52:08 <Ammler> he, isn't using custom_tags.txt the complicated way? :-) 18:57:22 <Yexo> <Ammler> why can't it be possible to write a simple "const file"? <- I thought you wanted it this way? 18:57:54 <Ammler> I thought more about something like a #include in the nml :-) 18:58:33 <Ammler> rather then hardcode a single file 21:02:38 *** ODM has quit IRC 21:08:30 <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 781: Change: adjusted Arable Farm production multiplier <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/781> 21:15:58 <planetmaker> Yexo: thanks. Works nicely 21:16:31 <planetmaker> Made use of immediately for OpenGFX+ :-) 21:19:29 <planetmaker> Ammler: can we somehow manage to make also nightlies for OpenGFX+? It needs NML... 21:20:49 <Ammler> planetmaker: symlink nml to /usr/local/bin 21:21:29 <planetmaker> well, the used NML should be the one as in the NML repo. I guess I will most often need the newest version of it. 21:21:40 <planetmaker> (and if not, it would still make sense ;-) ) 21:22:03 <Ammler> yes, symlink _that_ to /usr/local/bin :-) 21:22:29 <planetmaker> then we need something which does a hg up there everytime there's a commit 21:22:41 <planetmaker> or not? 21:23:01 <Ammler> hmm 21:24:36 <planetmaker> I've solved it locally such that I use a Makefile.local which re-defines the NML command to a relative path to the NML dir 21:24:40 <planetmaker> NML = ../nml/nml2nfo 21:24:47 <planetmaker> instead of nml2nfo 21:25:26 <Ammler> yes, that is another topic 21:25:48 <planetmaker> hm? 21:27:51 <Ammler> that is the symlink to /usr/local/bin/ 21:28:01 <Ammler> but I am not sure, if we should autoupdate 21:28:23 <planetmaker> well... it could update with the CF :-) 21:28:56 <planetmaker> in principle I say it's a bad idea to auto-update binaries 21:29:11 <planetmaker> But this case is different as it's all still alpha 21:29:23 <planetmaker> and not yet feature-complete 21:30:05 <Ammler> we need nightly of nml :-) 21:30:26 <planetmaker> yes, of course :-) 21:30:44 <planetmaker> but in principle we have that 21:30:56 <planetmaker> or rather can make that 21:31:15 <Ammler> does it have a make install? 21:31:43 <planetmaker> setup.py 21:31:53 <Ammler> he, I have already packaged a python script 21:33:02 <planetmaker> :-) 21:34:44 <Ammler> http://obs.openttdcoop.org/ammler/tortoisehg/tortoisehg.spec 21:35:28 <planetmaker> he :-) 21:35:36 <planetmaker> is tortoise purely python? 21:36:06 <Ammler> %{__python} setup.py build 21:36:14 <Ammler> %{__python} setup.py install -O1 --skip-build --root $RPM_BUILD_ROOT --prefix=%{_prefix} 21:36:39 <Ammler> is there something to build on nml? 21:39:20 <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: OpenGFX+ - Revision 9: Change: Make use of the support for custom string tags in order to automat... <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/ogfxplus/repository/revisions/9> 21:39:35 <planetmaker> what do you mean with "to build on nml"? 21:39:57 <planetmaker> I *think* it's not required to run / build anything 21:40:08 <planetmaker> one can use the repo as is for compiling other projects 21:42:38 <Ammler> so I just copy nml to %{python_sitelib} and the wrapper to /usr/bin ? 21:43:05 <planetmaker> I *think* it might work 21:43:09 <Ammler> :-) 21:43:18 <Ammler> worth a try... 21:43:28 <Ammler> we need a package for the chroot environment 21:43:51 <Ammler> else we have to install it together with the grfs 21:45:08 <Ammler> but for now, we just symlink the wrapper from the repo directly 21:46:09 <Ammler> the name is nml2nfo? 21:46:36 <planetmaker> yes 21:48:41 <Ammler> http://pastebin.com/9Ari23s3 21:49:37 <Ammler> same, if I run it directly 21:50:10 <Yexo> <Ammler> so I just copy nml to %{python_sitelib} and the wrapper to /usr/bin ? <- "python setup.py install" does just that 21:50:19 <Ammler> no readme.txt? 21:50:28 <Ammler> Yexo: fine :-) 21:50:36 <Ammler> also installing the wrapper? 21:50:41 <Yexo> yes 21:51:08 <Ammler> Yexo: %{__python} setup.py install -O1 --skip-build --root $RPM_BUILD_ROOT --prefix=%{_prefix} 21:54:11 <Ammler> source package: hg archive -ttbz2 nml-r`hg id -n`.tar.bz2 21:54:35 <planetmaker> Ammler: our server misses ply.lex package for python 21:56:13 <Ammler> http://pastebin.com/JYR54M8M 21:56:20 <Ammler> python-ply installed 21:57:05 <Ammler> the last paste might be more useful for yexo :-) 21:57:57 <Yexo> Ammler: the DeprecationWarning is in ply, that's not part of my code (just another module that I use) 21:57:58 <planetmaker> :-) 21:58:13 <Yexo> the yacc: Warning lines are correct, those are partially implemented features 21:58:25 <Ammler> ok, so just ignore those? 21:58:28 <planetmaker> yes 21:58:30 <Yexo> yes 21:58:56 <Yexo> last few lines are also expected as you didn't give a file as argument (or should it take stdin in this case?) 21:59:10 <Ammler> renum does that 21:59:12 <planetmaker> hm... yes :-) 21:59:28 <planetmaker> that would allow using it in pipes 21:59:30 <Ammler> might be nice for experimenting 22:01:54 <Ammler> Yexo: possible to get the version? 22:02:05 <planetmaker> of NML? 22:02:12 <planetmaker> hg id -n ;-) 22:02:27 <Ammler> no nml2nfo -v :-) 22:02:28 <Yexo> ^^, not sure how it could be implemented otherwise 22:02:38 <Ammler> true :-) 22:02:43 <Ammler> something for the release 22:02:44 <Yexo> nml2nfo could run 'hg id -n', but then it doesn't work once installed 22:02:56 <Yexo> for a release it could return a predefined string indeed 22:03:01 <planetmaker> yeah, but Ammler's got a point ^ 22:04:29 <Ammler> might also be an idea to define a require min version in nml code 22:07:18 <Yexo> more a version of the nml-spec 22:09:31 <Rubidium> can't setup.py "insert" something into the .py files and when there's nothing can't it check for mercurial and check the version that way? 22:11:04 <Yexo> setup.py uses python buildtools, a standard way to install python modules/applications 22:14:46 <Ammler> good old nml/rev.py :-) 22:15:58 <Ammler> license is gpl? 22:16:01 <Ammler> v2? 22:16:05 <Yexo> yes 22:16:16 <Yexo> I should add the licence file to the repo 22:16:44 <Yexo> Hirundo: ^^ licence gpl v2 is ok with you? 22:16:46 <planetmaker> add a dir docs 22:16:59 <planetmaker> where also a readme.txt could go 22:18:14 *** Yexo has quit IRC 22:18:27 <planetmaker> there he goes 22:18:31 *** Yexo has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 22:18:40 <planetmaker> and there he comes again ;-) 22:19:47 <planetmaker> Yexo: add build/ to .hgignore 22:19:56 <Yexo> you can do that :) 22:20:09 <planetmaker> for the repo? 22:20:17 <Yexo> sure 22:20:31 <Ammler> he is no dev :-) 22:21:18 <planetmaker> hm... drwxr-xr-x 2 root staff 102 19 Apr 18:20 scripts-2.6 <-- bad permissions in my user dir... 22:21:29 <Yexo> nevertheless he has committed things before 22:22:24 <planetmaker> true :-) 22:22:33 <planetmaker> and pushed 22:25:10 <Ammler> it need build 22:26:13 <Ammler> nml-0.1-py2.6.egg-info <-- where is that 0.1 from? 22:26:43 <Ammler> planetmaker: then you should also add yourself to dev 22:27:04 <planetmaker> Ammler: I, myself? 22:27:11 <planetmaker> that feels wrong ;-) 22:27:23 <Ammler> yes, but then you should push either :-P 22:27:27 <Ammler> n't 22:27:53 <planetmaker> ah, what I did was tiny things, not really much development 22:28:23 <Yexo> Ammler: from setup.py 22:28:50 <Ammler> Yexo: not useable somehow? 22:28:51 <planetmaker> Ammler: basically I wouldn't want to do that as it feels to me as abusing my site admin rights ;-) 22:29:12 <Yexo> Ammler: maybe 22:29:37 <Ammler> well, our inofficial rule was that you should only push to repos you are at least dev 22:29:52 <Yexo> now planetmaker is a dev, problem solved 22:29:57 <Ammler> :-) 22:30:58 <planetmaker> :-P 22:37:14 <Ammler> http://pastebin.com/brn6Zfca <-- my final report :-) 22:41:28 <Yexo> Ammler: the last one is confusing, does it mean the package name should be "python-nml" or something like that? 22:41:30 <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: NFO Meta Language - Revision 127: Change: Ignore the build dir generated by installer <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/nml/repository/revisions/127> 22:42:57 <Ammler> yexo, I guess so 22:43:05 <Ammler> I call it openttd-devel-nml 22:44:03 <Rubidium> shinkansen! 22:45:13 <Ammler> anyway, rpm looks fine and working 22:46:13 <Ammler> http://obs.openttdcoop.org/specs/openttd-devel-nml/nml.spec 22:47:46 <Yexo> Ammler: did you already try to run "python setup.py bdist_rpm --spec-only 22:47:46 <Yexo> " ? 22:49:19 * planetmaker needs sleep and wishes a good night everyone 22:49:44 <Ammler> you mean for the files list? 22:49:55 <Yexo> no, that generates a spec file from setup.py 22:50:04 <Ammler> oh wow, no :-) 22:50:31 <Yexo> I didn't realize what you were working on until you were done 22:52:31 <Ammler> --record=INSTALLED_FILES might be an idea Powered by YARRSTE version: svn-trunk