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00:01:42 *** KenjiE20 has quit IRC 01:47:54 *** Seberoth has quit IRC 06:06:48 <Brot6> Swedish Rails - Revision 136:2552dc7eb97f: Change: Provide default graphics group in order to not... (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/swedishrails/repository/revisions/2552dc7eb97f 07:01:41 <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Revision 548:da5ae961bde4: Doc: Document use of language files. Format cod... (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/nml/repository/revisions/da5ae961bde4 07:22:00 *** frosch123 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 07:52:07 <Brot6> OpenMSX - Revision 84:a5dba2b52a2b: Doc: Add a section about troubleshooting to the readme (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/openmsx/repository/revisions/a5dba2b52a2b 08:07:19 *** Alberth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 08:08:38 <Rubidium> planetmaker: just refer to OpenTTD's known-bugs.txt (without the link) 08:08:51 <Rubidium> also the win32 driver has the cut-offs 08:09:00 <Rubidium> and it's Windows :) 08:09:11 <planetmaker> hm... without link? 08:09:38 <Rubidium> yeah 08:09:55 <Rubidium> I rather have they look at the known-bugs.txt of their installation as that's current for their installation 08:11:31 <planetmaker> hm, ok 08:11:49 <Rubidium> oh... don't forget the base translations! 08:13:06 <planetmaker> indeed. I should not 08:13:13 <planetmaker> thanks 08:13:37 <Rubidium> maybe for the ones that don't have an update you can use the license text from OpenGFX 08:13:38 <planetmaker> though it makes sense to release it somewhat jointly with OpenTTD 1.0.3. 08:13:51 <Rubidium> that'll be in 3 weeks 08:13:55 <planetmaker> Then people are less likely to complain 08:14:05 <planetmaker> Well. Then it is three weeks. 08:14:17 <Rubidium> but you're gone then, right? 08:14:37 <planetmaker> I guess that doesn't hurt now either. Yes. I'll add translations and anyone can then just tag and upload :-) 08:15:16 <planetmaker> I'll definitely have no internet from 29/7 to 8/8 08:15:33 <planetmaker> laptop stays at home :-) 08:15:36 <Rubidium> you could release it around 1.0.3-RC1 08:15:53 <Rubidium> which'll be roughly next sunday 08:16:05 <planetmaker> hm, that'd make sense, too 08:16:40 <planetmaker> Then Saturday it'll be :-) 08:16:57 <planetmaker> as I leave already on Sunday for conference 08:18:18 <planetmaker> using the license description from OpenGFX is a good idea, too 08:21:18 <Brot6> OpenMSX - Revision 85:226372fd4e00: Change: Amend documentation concerning windows driver issues (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/openmsx/repository/revisions/226372fd4e00 09:33:10 *** FooBar has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 09:55:27 <DJNekkid> did anyone of you try nutracks yet, with subways? 09:56:44 <FooBar> no, I haven't tried nutracks at all really 09:57:34 <DJNekkid> there is one thing that anoys me 09:57:45 <DJNekkid> and the problem is in opengfx really 09:57:55 <planetmaker> is it? 09:58:01 <DJNekkid> on the foundations 09:58:18 <DJNekkid> the "backside" got a strip of foundation 09:58:36 <planetmaker> yes. That's how they are... 09:59:14 <DJNekkid> im concidering to actionA them away in nutracks 09:59:15 <Brot6> OpenMSX - Revision 86:6ed0a87715bb: Update: New translations for Czech, Finish, Hungarian, Serbia... (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/openmsx/repository/revisions/6ed0a87715bb 10:00:06 <planetmaker> that'd be very bad style 10:00:16 <planetmaker> Everything else relies on the foundations... 10:00:30 <planetmaker> you'd introduce 'bugs' wherever not nutracks is used in the graphics 10:01:04 <FooBar> either way, NuTracks r85 don't even work: "attempt to use invalid ID" 10:01:06 <DJNekkid> but what is the reason for them beeing ther? 10:01:17 <DJNekkid> did you read the discription? :) 10:01:23 <DJNekkid> set parameter0 to 1 10:01:33 <FooBar> what a nonsense 10:01:44 <DJNekkid> i dont know how to let the game set it for me 10:01:55 <DJNekkid> game/grf 10:02:01 <planetmaker> either, you can go and draw new foundations. Then we can talk about putting them in OpenGFX. 10:02:22 <planetmaker> But they're basically the shape and size the foundations in TTD have ever been. 10:02:30 <DJNekkid> i know 10:03:00 <DJNekkid> it might just be me, but ive never really liked the backside of thoose foundations 10:03:58 <DJNekkid> FooBar: do you know how to let the game set a parameter? 10:04:22 <planetmaker> http://mz.openttdcoop.org/opengfx/authors/script.php?feature=spritesbyfile&q=ogfx1_base <-- it's nearly the same in both base sets 10:04:54 <FooBar> original_windows has the same problem, hasn't it? Or otherwise I don't see the problem really :( 10:05:08 <planetmaker> FooBar: yes. See the link I gave ;-) 10:05:14 <planetmaker> mind that it loads.... loooong 10:05:19 <planetmaker> (all base sprites) 10:06:45 <planetmaker> DJNekkid: what do you need that parameter for? 10:07:31 <DJNekkid> to disable a couple of railtypes that currently isned used, but will be at one point 10:08:01 <planetmaker> and... why do you need a parameter to do so? 10:08:07 <planetmaker> why not do that always? 10:08:13 <FooBar> DJNekkid: try -1 * 0 0D 00 80 FF FF \d1 10:08:41 <DJNekkid> because currently nutracks supply like 18 or so new railtypes 10:09:13 <planetmaker> yes. But you can choose one setting, if the parameter is 0 10:09:21 <planetmaker> and another if it is 1 etc pp 10:09:33 <planetmaker> a parameter is (usually) 0, if not defined 10:09:53 <planetmaker> thus testing it for 0 and then doing defaults would be the way to go 10:09:53 <DJNekkid> according to someone, "unset" and "0" isnt the same 10:09:57 <FooBar> above code should set the parameter to 1 if not defined 10:09:58 <DJNekkid> dalestand or something :) 10:10:08 <planetmaker> DJNekkid: yes. With TTDP :-P 10:10:26 <planetmaker> Or use FB's code with 0 instead of 1 10:12:03 <DJNekkid> i already have the code with 1 supplied :) 10:12:26 <planetmaker> well. Using 0 as default is saner 10:12:35 <planetmaker> because 0 is... default anyway 10:12:38 <DJNekkid> true 10:13:33 <FooBar> if my code doesn't work, put a 00 (or a 9A) instead of the second FF, otherwise, keep it 10:13:47 <DJNekkid> it worked :) 10:13:53 <FooBar> ok, good 10:14:12 <planetmaker> because with 0, you can then as player use 0, if you don't want to change anything for the first parameter(s), but another later one 10:14:32 <DJNekkid> this parameter will change at some point anyway 10:15:05 <planetmaker> you should document your parameters in the readme :-) 10:15:19 <planetmaker> I only recently changed the readme to not be a 80% OpenGFX readme. 10:16:02 <Brot6> Nutracks - Revision 86:e90832be3a6a: Fix: Dont need to set parameter 0 to 1 for the set to work a... (DJNekkid) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/nutracks/repository/revisions/e90832be3a6a 10:21:38 <DJNekkid> but ttyl :) gotta shower, get groceries, then there is a beer-tent at 1, footballgame at 4, dinner at 7ish, then a party at 8 or something :) 10:37:13 *** KenjiE20 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 10:37:35 <planetmaker> enjoy, DJNekkid :-) 11:31:15 *** Seberoth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 11:32:10 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 11:40:31 <Ammler> fishing looks nice 11:40:48 <planetmaker> of firs? 11:40:50 <planetmaker> :-) 11:41:15 <Ammler> yes, from the screens in the release thread 11:42:23 <Ammler> or in the other thread, dunno :-/ 11:58:20 <planetmaker> yeah. That, the dedication, ambition and flexibility how to reach the goals make FIRS one of the main design drivers in the newgrf domain :-) 12:10:07 *** Seberoth has quit IRC 12:51:36 <Terkhen> hmm... FIRS makefile does not find renum/grfcodec, even if both of them are on my PATH (I can run both of them from FIRS source folder) 12:53:20 <planetmaker> hm. What OS? 12:53:54 <Terkhen> archlinux, used to work fine before I switched to 64 bits 12:54:01 <planetmaker> hm 12:54:08 <Terkhen> in fact, it does not see them even if they are placed at firs folder 12:54:17 <planetmaker> what does it output, if you run it with make _V= 12:54:26 <Alberth> . may not be in the PATH 12:54:55 <planetmaker> Terkhen: and what's the output of "which grfcodec" 12:56:02 <planetmaker> and ./grfcodec != grfcodec 12:56:17 <planetmaker> as Alberth says 12:56:20 *** Seberoth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 12:56:51 <Terkhen> http://pastebin.com/scikGu2q 12:56:59 <planetmaker> but I just grep'ed the source for the use of the newgrf parameters... I couldn't find them used anywhere 12:57:35 <planetmaker> well... to me those clearly show that both, renum and grfcodec are not in your path 12:57:38 <Alberth> 'which grfcodec' should give you the path to the binary if they are in the PATH 12:58:11 <Alberth> the NewGRF uses the parameters, not openttd 12:58:36 <Terkhen> "which grfcodec" and "which renum" give the correct path 12:59:09 <Terkhen> oh 12:59:58 <Terkhen> adding them to the path as "~/bin" instead as with an absolute route wasn't the best of my ideas 13:00:06 <Terkhen> it's working now, thanks 13:00:10 <planetmaker> :-) 13:01:28 <Alberth> ~/bin is also an absolute path :) 13:01:54 <Alberth> (but it needs shell exapnsion) 13:02:19 <planetmaker> :-) 13:05:26 <Terkhen> :P 15:10:55 *** Seberoth has quit IRC 15:20:52 *** Seberoth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 16:18:47 <Brot6> firs: update from r1037 to r1040 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/firs/nightlies/r1040 16:19:24 <Brot6> nml: update from r544 to r548 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/nml/nightlies/r548 16:19:52 <Brot6> nutracks: update from r85 to r86 done (164 errors) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/nutracks/nightlies/r86 16:20:17 <Brot6> openmsx: update from r80 to r86 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/openmsx/nightlies/r86 16:20:53 <Brot6> swedishrails: update from r135 to r136 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/swedishrails/nightlies/r136 16:20:55 <Brot6> Following repos didn't need a nightlies update: 2cctrainset (r573), 32bpp-extra (r36), airportsplus (r52), bros (r12), comic-houses (r70), fish (r386), grfcodec (r169), heqs (r348), newgrf_makefile (r120), nmts (r16), ogfxplus (r39), opengfx (r465), opensfx (r96), snowlinemod (r15), worldairlinersset (r648) 16:54:45 *** Seberoth has quit IRC 16:58:17 *** Seberoth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 18:12:37 *** FooBar has quit IRC 19:28:51 *** Alberth has left #openttdcoop.devzone 20:16:59 *** ODM has quit IRC 20:31:27 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 20:50:12 *** frosch123 has quit IRC 21:05:15 *** andythenorth has left #openttdcoop.devzone 21:33:02 *** Seberoth has quit IRC 21:49:24 *** ODM has quit IRC 22:26:30 <Brot6> opengfx: update from r465 to r465 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/opengfx/nightlies/r465 22:29:23 <Brot6> opengfx: update from r465 to r465 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/opengfx/nightlies/r465 22:33:22 <planetmaker> now... that's a peculiar time. And a noteworthy step in revisions... 22:45:24 <Ammler> :-) 22:46:23 <Brot6> opengfx: rebuild of r465 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/opengfx/nightlies/r465 23:13:09 <Brot6> Swedish Rails - Revision 137:5ad9b2f47ec5: Doc: Mention bug with non-snowy tracks on tiles with f... (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/swedishrails/repository/revisions/5ad9b2f47ec5 23:22:27 <Brot6> opengfx: rebuild of r465 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/opengfx/nightlies/r465 23:24:18 <Brot6> opengfx: rebuild of r465 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/opengfx/nightlies/r465 23:27:05 <Brot6> opengfx: rebuild of r465 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/opengfx/nightlies/r465 23:37:31 <Brot6> opengfx: rebuild of r465 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/opengfx/nightlies/r465 23:39:22 <Brot6> opengfx: rebuild of r465 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/opengfx/nightlies/r465 23:39:57 <Ammler> why do the zips differ? 23:42:38 <Rubidium> timestamps 23:44:37 <Brot6> #openttdcoop - Revision 87:d2cf18ebf56a: [Compiler] Feature: add rebuild of the same rev (flag -f) (Ammler) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/home/repository/revisions/d2cf18ebf56a 23:44:41 <Ammler> the question is, shall the build fail, if for example the resulting md5 differ? 23:45:19 <Rubidium> of zips? I wouldn't do that 23:45:50 <Ammler> no, for example of the md5 file we generate for newgrfs 23:47:41 *** KenjiE20 has quit IRC 23:48:08 <Ammler> the md5 file we use for make check