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(andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/heqs/repository/revisions/773f44dd5cb2 11:30:09 <Brot6> HEQS "Heavy Equipment" Set - Revision 540:fbe1c0a8da8b: Change: Gmund Mog rail version has air ... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/heqs/repository/revisions/fbe1c0a8da8b 11:53:59 <Brot6> HEQS "Heavy Equipment" Set - Revision 541:c8630a614c12: Change: set costs and model life for Gm... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/heqs/repository/revisions/c8630a614c12 11:54:49 <Brot6> HEQS "Heavy Equipment" Set - Feature #1945 (New): Trailer wagons for hi-rail vehicles (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1945 12:09:39 *** ODM has quit IRC 12:26:21 *** KenjiE20 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 12:49:17 <Yexo> Ammler: trying to view the history of a wiki page on the devzone "internal error" 12:49:26 <Yexo> http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/2cctrainset/wiki/Wiki/history <- click on "view differences" 13:08:43 <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Feature Request #1946 (New): Allow modified parameters as properties: (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1946 13:09:56 <planetmaker> Ammler: when creating a ticket after successful creation I get also an internal error. 13:12:08 <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Feature Request #1946: Allow modified parameters as properties: (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1946#change-4878 13:13:14 <Yexo> planetmaker: climates_available: param[0]-2; works fine here 13:13:56 <planetmaker> hm... 13:14:20 <Yexo> are you sure it's that line? param[0] is not a constant either 13:15:25 <planetmaker> try bitmask(param[0]) 13:15:37 <Ammler> planetmaker: I am aware of that :-( 13:15:37 <Yexo> bitmask only accepts constant parameters 13:16:03 <planetmaker> hm, ok, so I'll try to construct that manually 13:16:14 <Yexo> 1<<param[0] ? 13:17:04 <Yexo> hmm, I don't see why bitmask couldn't do that 13:18:07 <planetmaker> I'll try it that way first 13:21:47 <planetmaker> well. even if I do that, still the expression along the lines of climates_available: USE_CLIMATE_ARCTIC || USE_CLIMATE_TROPICAL || USE_CLIMATE_ALL ? CLIMATE_PARAM : NO_CLIMATE; fails 13:22:03 <planetmaker> where CLIMATE_PARAM is 1<<param[0] 13:23:17 <planetmaker> the way around that is probably to put the ternary expression before the item declaration 13:23:40 <planetmaker> but you're right, just using param[2] works 13:23:49 <planetmaker> or param[0] + 2 13:24:06 <Yexo> can you give me a preprocessed version of the expression that fails? 13:24:21 <Yexo> climates_available: param[0] || param[1] || param[2] ? (1<<param[3]) : NO_CLIMATE; <- this succeeds 13:25:00 <planetmaker> climates_available: (param[0] == CLIMATE_ARCTIC + 2) || (param[0] == CLIMATE_TROPICAL + 2) || (param[0] == 6) ? param[20] : NO_CLIMATE; 13:25:43 <Yexo> that lines works fine 13:26:56 <planetmaker> hm, hold on. I think I overlooked a line with bitmask(param) 13:27:03 <planetmaker> yes :-) Sorry 13:27:07 <Yexo> np :) 13:27:09 <Yexo> glad it works 13:27:18 <planetmaker> yup :-) So am I :-) 13:28:11 <planetmaker> So selecting the arctic engines in tropical climate will be no problem :-) 13:29:07 <Yexo> feel free to continue using bitmask, I'm fixing it now 13:29:21 <planetmaker> :-) 13:30:39 <planetmaker> but seems my logic is still flawed. No engines available ;-) 13:33:42 <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Revision 1044:897f0c15ba5c: Change: use tabs to indent example code, not s... (yexo) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/nml/repository/revisions/897f0c15ba5c 13:33:42 <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Revision 1045:c2e2d36ef46d: Doc: little bit more documentation about expre... (yexo) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/nml/repository/revisions/c2e2d36ef46d 13:33:42 <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Revision 1046:f584befa0783: Change: make the builtin bitmask also work for... (yexo) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/nml/repository/revisions/f584befa0783 13:34:22 <Yexo> what is param[20] ? 13:35:58 <planetmaker> an internal variable which is param[0] - 2 13:36:11 <planetmaker> or rather bitmask(param[0]-2) 13:36:32 <planetmaker> or something. I changed that every minute right now ;-) 13:36:44 <Yexo> and param[0] i the climate the engines should be available in? 13:37:01 <planetmaker> climite + 2 13:37:08 <Yexo> bitmask(4) is not a valid climate bitmask 13:37:11 <planetmaker> 0 = default, 1=none, 2 = temperate 13:37:13 <planetmaker> etc 13:38:16 <planetmaker> if param0 = 0 then I set it to the current climate 13:38:51 <planetmaker> if (param[0] == 0) { 13:38:52 <planetmaker> param[0] = climate + 2; 13:38:54 <planetmaker> } 13:38:55 <planetmaker> CLIMATE_PARAM = 1 << (param[0] - 2); // param[20] 13:39:08 <Yexo> and if param[0]==1 ? 13:39:17 <planetmaker> then all engines shall become unavailable 13:39:37 <andythenorth> planetmaker: for parameter-costs, is that action 6, or cb? 13:39:45 <andythenorth> (in your current method) 13:40:18 <planetmaker> andythenorth: action 7/9 jumping over the definition, I assume 13:40:40 <planetmaker> only using the appropriate one 13:41:08 <planetmaker> if grf_present(id) then cost = blub; endif 13:41:12 <planetmaker> and so on for each grf 13:41:18 <andythenorth> k 13:41:33 <andythenorth> I might introduce variable running costs in HEQS 2, so I am deciding whether to go for cbs now 13:41:58 <planetmaker> pretty stupid code on my part here. I don't change the vehicles properties. Just the base costs 13:42:09 <andythenorth> ach 13:42:10 <andythenorth> of course 13:42:17 <Yexo> even if you go for cbs I think you'd still need some action 6, as you can't query other grfs using varaction2 13:42:19 * andythenorth facepalm 13:42:27 <andythenorth> I'm not sure I like querying other grfs 13:42:33 <planetmaker> why not? 13:42:45 <planetmaker> Sure, it only works for those you test. 13:42:51 <andythenorth> ok, so I have FISH, NARS 2, and eGRVTS installed 13:42:55 <andythenorth> which costs do I match to? 13:43:03 <planetmaker> your choice ;-) 13:43:22 <planetmaker> I'd balance it agains NARS2 13:43:34 <planetmaker> +t 13:43:35 <andythenorth> I favour giving the player a parameter menu - isn't that what your action 14 does? 13:43:46 <planetmaker> andythenorth: that's, what I do, too. 13:43:54 <planetmaker> But I offer the choice to try it automatically 13:44:23 <andythenorth> hmm 13:44:30 <andythenorth> want to implement it on HEQS? 13:44:44 <andythenorth> I'm open to suggestion...but I have brain ache about costs and balancing 13:44:51 <andythenorth> I'm slightly bored of it :P 13:44:52 <planetmaker> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=915619#p915619 <-- see the image there 13:44:54 <Webster> Title: Transport Tycoon Forums • View topic - OpenGFX+ Trains development and translations thread (at www.tt-forums.net) 13:45:01 <planetmaker> yes, I guess I could do that 13:45:07 <andythenorth> if it was interesting, I'd have done it two years ago when I released first HEQS :) 13:45:31 <planetmaker> Not that I do something fancy. I just loaded OpenGFX+Trains with the other sets. Roughly estimated the powers of 2 I need for adjustment. That's it 13:45:57 <planetmaker> I'd simply copy my NML code converted to NFO ;-) 13:46:07 <andythenorth> I have no uncommitted HEQS changes.... 13:46:26 <planetmaker> he :-) 13:46:32 <Ammler> planetmaker: it doesn't need ever step from 0 to 8 13:47:00 <planetmaker> don't kill me if I don't do it today, andythenorth, I'll have to leave soonish again, but I'll take a look wrt that on HEQS 13:47:14 <planetmaker> Ammler: context? 13:47:14 <andythenorth> I'll finish setting costs meanwhile then 13:47:22 <planetmaker> relative ones? 13:47:46 <andythenorth> yes 13:47:56 <planetmaker> ok :-) That's more important anyway. And more difficult 13:47:58 <andythenorth> there's already a base cost modification in HEQS 13:48:02 <Ammler> planetmaker: you need to klick a lot "right" until you can rise costs 13:48:12 <planetmaker> ah 13:48:26 <planetmaker> suggestions? 13:48:49 <Ammler> 1=free, 5 and 7 13:48:57 <andythenorth> planetmaker FYI base cost value in HEQS is 0A (base is 08), so some room to go up/down either side 13:49:13 <planetmaker> yeah :-) 13:49:24 <planetmaker> Ammler: how do you mean? 13:49:41 <Ammler> 1 is like no costs 13:49:50 <planetmaker> Nah, you don't want that, do you? 13:49:55 <Ammler> then you need half and maybe something between half and free 13:50:01 *** Doorslammer has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 13:50:10 <Ammler> planetmaker: you have it already 13:50:19 <planetmaker> how? 13:50:21 <Ammler> you have every step from 0 to 8 13:50:36 <planetmaker> 1/256 is not free ;-) 13:50:49 <planetmaker> it just means it costs like 10€ / year to run an AsiaStar 13:50:51 <planetmaker> :-P 13:50:57 <Ammler> you missed the "like" 13:51:24 <planetmaker> Nah, I actually want to keep the option to adjust to other unknown sets accurately 13:51:44 <planetmaker> or when there are more than one set to balance again and automatic stupid algorithm fails 13:51:44 <Ammler> no set needs to make it cheaper 13:52:08 <Ammler> and for sure, no set needs lower than half 13:52:52 <Ammler> if you will determine lower steps, you could still add it, doesn't break compatibility :-) 13:54:11 <planetmaker> yes and now. It screws prices in existing configurations ;-) 13:54:21 <Ammler> if you prices are like default set, you are already the cheapest 13:54:48 <Ammler> planetmaker: it doesn't 13:55:01 <Ammler> the values are saved as they are or do you convert thsoe? 13:56:20 <planetmaker> base cost property = param - 9 13:56:47 <Ammler> he, I didn't suggest to remove the parameter, just some steps :-P 13:57:07 <Brot6> HEQS "Heavy Equipment" Set - Revision 542:eb91ccb39ada: Change: reduce capacity of Ishizuchi Tr... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/heqs/repository/revisions/eb91ccb39ada 13:59:02 <Ammler> planetmaker: but it doesn't really matter, I just wonder, if it obvious that you need to click 10 times right until you can rise costs 13:59:05 <planetmaker> but I can't add steps 13:59:16 <planetmaker> I can only use a continuous range of numbers 13:59:39 <Ammler> hmm, can't you define a list? 13:59:50 <planetmaker> hm... 14:00:04 <Ammler> well, then forget everything :-P 14:00:54 <Ammler> changing those costs is advanced stuff anyway, people then know what to do 14:02:47 <planetmaker> nope, I can't leave out values 14:13:33 <Ammler> and you don't want to use 8 as automatic, I assume 14:30:54 <planetmaker> not really. 14:31:14 <planetmaker> I thought about that, but it might be bad. But I could place those two options nevertheless in the middle... 14:34:22 <Ammler> you can't 14:46:33 <planetmaker> why not? 15:00:22 <Rubidium> planetmaker/Ammler: what's your server that has the fastest players, i.e. the players that build/chat the fastests? (Not the most, but fastest... i.e. chat messages/build commands per second) 15:01:07 <Rubidium> I'd like to have some stats w.r.t. incoming packets using http://rbijker.net/openttd/packetstats.diff 15:01:35 <Rubidium> and I'd like to get them from the server where people build the fastest 15:02:59 <Ammler> that is ps on building stage 15:04:01 <Ammler> stable is currently not that busy anymore 15:04:41 <Ammler> what does the diff do? 15:04:46 <Ammler> writing to a file? 15:05:25 <Rubidium> yes\ 15:05:30 <Rubidium> in the autosave directory 15:05:55 <Yexo> Ammler: did you just change the template for the devzone? 15:05:58 <Rubidium> for each received packet the client_id of the receiver, the frame and the size of the packet 15:06:32 <Ammler> server is compiling... 15:06:50 <Ammler> Yexo: I am wondering about the issue save bug 15:07:01 <Ammler> but it still exists 15:07:11 <Ammler> it also happens with svn trunk 15:07:15 <Yexo> the top bar is now blue, I don't remember that color from before 15:07:50 <Yexo> hmm, a hard refresh fixed it 15:07:53 <Ammler> yep, that is the default skin 15:08:02 <Ammler> no, I changed it back :-P 15:08:06 <Yexo> ah :) 15:08:34 <Yexo> planetmaker: can #1946 be closed? 15:10:12 *** thgergo has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 15:10:23 <Ammler> Rubidium: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/save/autosave/packetstats.log 15:10:38 <Rubidium> Ammler: lovely & thanks :) 15:11:00 <Ammler> just tell me, when we should disable it again 15:11:16 <Ammler> what happens, when we restart? 15:11:30 <Rubidium> it starts that file from start again 15:11:39 <Ammler> so we should backup it first? 15:11:40 <Rubidium> so I need it before the next restart (whenever that may be) 15:11:59 <Rubidium> Ammler: yes, but... what "stage" is that server in at the moment? 15:12:09 <Ammler> building 15:12:20 <Ammler> but later stage, more like optimizing 15:13:21 <Ammler> so like 10% of busiest maybe? 15:15:50 <Ammler> [16:14] <Ammler> which is initial building, I would guess 15:15:51 <Ammler> [16:14] <PublicServer> <V453000> hmm, probably a bit less, but still quite active 15:22:41 <V453000> you want many actions per minute, or? :) 15:23:13 <Rubidium> I want to know what the peak number of incoming bytes is (per second and per tick) per client 15:23:27 <V453000> I see 15:23:59 <Ammler> maybe prozone is also a good server for that, _when_ someone is there 15:24:09 <V453000> yes, when :D 15:27:18 <Rubidium> e.g. for the first ~2000 incoming packets (from the clients): max incoming bytes per tick (for all clients together) was 75, with 241 bytes in a second 15:27:29 <Rubidium> (ignoring TCP overhead, just OpenTTD's packets) 15:29:29 <Rubidium> the 75 bytes were a single packet, so I guess that was a chat message :) 15:31:40 <Rubidium> now I need something better to parse that file though 15:36:31 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 15:44:48 <Hirundo> Ammler: Did the RSA key for openttdcoop change? 15:50:17 <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Feature Request #1946 (Closed): Allow modified parameters as properties: (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1946 15:50:17 <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Feature Request #1946 (Closed): Allow modified parameters as properties: (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1946#change-4879 15:50:46 <planetmaker> Hirundo: yes. New server 15:51:04 <planetmaker> check http://sites.google.com/site/openttdcoop/ 16:11:28 * Rubidium applauds the effort of client #9; 5 commands in a single frame 16:36:45 <Ammler> that was v 16:37:19 <Brot6> HEQS "Heavy Equipment" Set - Feature #1950 (New): Tram running costs should vary according to n... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1950 16:37:36 <Ammler> I should have copied the host key from salieri to the hg server 16:45:12 <Ammler> planetmaker: made alias @ssh 16:49:49 <V453000> mw? :) 16:50:15 <V453000> how long is 1 frame? 16:52:45 <PeterT> Ammler! 16:52:46 <PeterT> hi 16:53:17 <planetmaker> [17:45] <Ammler> planetmaker: made alias @ssh <-- for which services? 16:53:18 <Rubidium> as long as a tick, except when paused 16:53:30 <planetmaker> V453000: 30 milliseconds 16:53:36 <Rubidium> as when the game is paused the tick counter is stopped 16:53:56 <V453000> I see :) 16:54:14 <V453000> well, that seems rather like a lag, making everything in the 1 frame 17:08:28 <Brot6> grfcodec: update from r810 to r811 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/grfcodec/nightlies/r811 17:09:50 <Brot6> nml: update from r1043 to r1046 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/nml/nightlies/r1046 17:12:57 <Ammler> planetmaker: just the key page 17:16:00 <Ammler> sali lost PeterT 17:18:09 <Brot6> heqs: update from r530 to r542 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/heqs/nightlies/r542 17:18:18 <Brot6> Following repos didn't need a nightlies update: 2cctrainset (r684), 32bpp-extra (r39), ai-admiralai (r75), airportsplus (r69), basecosts (r22), belarusiantowns (r7), bros (ERROR r33), comic-houses (r71), firs (r1559), fish (r423), frenchtowns (r4), grfcodec (r811), indonesiantowns (r38), manindu (r5), metrotrackset (r56), newgrf_makefile (r236), nml (r1046), nutracks (r117), ogfx-rv (r57), ogfx-trains (r175), ogfx-trees (r41), opengfx 17:18:19 <Brot6> (r558), openmsx (r97), opensfx (r97), smts (r19), snowlinemod (r45), swedishrails (r188), swisstowns (r21), transrapidtrackset (r15), ttdviewer (r26), ttrs (r23), worldairlinersset (r669) 17:19:57 <Brot6> bros: compile of r33 still failed (#1930) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/bros/nightlies/ERROR/r33 17:20:04 <Brot6> comic-houses: rebuild of r71 done (2 errors) (Diffsize: 13) (DiffDiffsize: 7) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/comic-houses/nightlies/r71/log 17:21:03 <Brot6> indonesiantowns: compile of r38 still failed (#1873) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/indonesiantowns/nightlies/ERROR/r38 17:23:03 <Brot6> opengfx: compile of r558 failed - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/opengfx/nightlies/ERROR/r558 17:23:16 <Brot6> smts: rebuild of r19 done (Diffsize: 1) (DiffDiffsize: 12) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/smts/nightlies/r19/log 17:24:05 <Brot6> OpenGFX - Bug #1951 (New): DevZone compile failed (compiler) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1951 17:24:10 <Brot6> transrapidtrackset: rebuild of r15 done (Diffsize: 11) (DiffDiffsize: 7) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/transrapidtrackset/nightlies/r15/log 17:24:35 <Brot6> ttrs: rebuild of r23 done (7 errors) (Diffsize: 1) (DiffDiffsize: 1328) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/ttrs/nightlies/r23/log 17:25:18 <Brot6> Following repos rebuilds successful without any difference to earlier nightlies builds: 2cctrainset (8 errors) (Diffsize: 1), 32bpp-extra (Diffsize: 1), airportsplus (Diffsize: 6), basecosts, belarusiantowns (3 errors) (Diffsize: 21), firs (1 errors) (Diffsize: 1), fish (4 errors) (Diffsize: 1), frenchtowns (4 errors) (Diffsize: 9), manindu, metrotrackset, nutracks (2 errors), ogfx-rv (1 errors), ogfx-trains, ogfx-trees (Diffsize: 1), 17:25:18 <Brot6> snowlinemod (Diffsize: 1), swedishrails (Diffsize: 6), swisstowns, worldairlinersset 17:25:25 <Ammler> looks like houses got new nml code :-) 17:25:41 <planetmaker> hm? 17:26:07 <planetmaker> houses? 17:30:15 <Ammler> oh, grfcodec code 17:33:56 <Ammler> nforenum doesn't create ~/.nforenum anymore? 17:36:15 <Ammler> luckily we do build rpms from opengfx, else we wouldn't notice :-) 17:36:51 <planetmaker> http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/opengfx/nightlies/ERROR/r558/ <-- these errors are only grf2html failing :-( 17:38:12 <planetmaker> Server returned an error: HTTP Error 400: Bad Request <--- uhm? From http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/comic-houses/nightlies/r71/log/comic-houses-r71-devzone.err.log 17:39:13 <Brot6> OpenGFX - Bug #1951 (Closed): DevZone compile failed (compiler) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1951 17:39:13 <Brot6> OpenGFX - Bug #1951 (Closed): DevZone compile failed (Ammler) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1951#change-4880 17:41:12 <Ammler> planetmaker: because the build script fails on removing ~/.nforenum 17:41:24 <Ammler> should be fine from tomorrow 17:41:29 <planetmaker> aye :-) 17:44:11 <Ammler> if you have custom nfo scripts, you might need to fix your specs... 17:44:12 <Brot6> OpenGFX - Revision 559:4ad9d46f0bfc: Fix #1951: no need to cleanup ~/.nforenum anymore (Ammler) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/opengfx/repository/revisions/4ad9d46f0bfc 17:44:17 <Ammler> like here ^ 17:46:31 <Ammler> beside, the cleanup wasn't needed anyway anymore 17:46:49 <Ammler> since nforenum is build before the rest 17:48:11 <planetmaker> oki :-) 17:57:11 <Ammler> SHAME ON ME! 17:57:35 <Ammler> I forgot to migrate the database, that was the cause of the issue save errors 18:00:40 <planetmaker> ?! :-O 18:06:46 <andythenorth> so what, it was writing to the old server? 18:08:10 <Ammler> no, just some structure changes which got forgotten 18:08:36 <Ammler> maybe the suport for subtypes for example, dunno 18:13:33 *** frosch123 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 18:18:37 *** Doorslammer has quit IRC 19:02:37 <Brot6> 32bpp-ez-patches: update from r21337 to r21345 done (2 errors) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/32bpp-ez-patches/testing/r21345 19:05:12 <Brot6> clientpatches: update from r21337 to r21345 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/clientpatches/testing/r21345 19:05:42 <Brot6> serverpatches: compile of r21345 still failed (#1855) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/serverpatches/testing/ERROR/r21345 19:06:36 *** Doorslammer has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 19:27:07 *** yorick has quit IRC 19:31:03 *** yorick has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 19:47:17 <Hirundo> <Hirundo> Ammler: Did the RSA key for openttdcoop change? <- I went offline, did I miss a reply? 19:48:39 <Rubidium> I think you did 19:49:13 <Rubidium> 16:50 < planetmaker> Hirundo: yes. New server 19:49:13 <Rubidium> 16:51 < planetmaker> check http://sites.google.com/site/openttdcoop/ 19:51:11 <Hirundo> Thanks, I'll take a look 19:54:12 <Brot6> HEQS "Heavy Equipment" Set - Revision 543:115176640644: Feature: set costs (variable by refit) ... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/heqs/repository/revisions/115176640644 19:54:12 <Brot6> HEQS "Heavy Equipment" Set - Feature #1127 (Closed): Set purchase and running costs (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1127#change-4881 20:00:33 <Brot6> HEQS "Heavy Equipment" Set - Revision 544:9d37104b8328: Change: update changelog (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/heqs/repository/revisions/9d37104b8328 20:02:31 <Brot6> HEQS "Heavy Equipment" Set - Feature #1953 (New): Cost parameter (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1953 20:04:14 <Ammler> Hirundo: enable buffer :-P 20:04:31 <Hirundo> what buffer? :S 20:04:41 <Ammler> what do you use the bnc for? 20:05:54 <andythenorth> where are hg tags (I need to delete a tag - again) 20:05:56 <andythenorth> :P 20:06:01 <Hirundo> Oww that buffer, I have it enabled but only 50-100 lines or so 20:06:03 <Ammler> rise the buffer to 500 or so and enable clearbufferonmsg 20:06:13 <andythenorth> found them 20:06:37 <andythenorth> hmm 20:06:51 <andythenorth> deleting tag from .hgtags not enough apparently 20:07:08 <Ammler> andythenorth: it is 20:07:17 <Ammler> but you need to commit it 20:07:42 <andythenorth> yay 20:07:51 <Ammler> but if the tag is not pushed, use rollback or strip 20:10:38 <Brot6> HEQS "Heavy Equipment" Set - Revision 545:fc844a8f7c87: Added tag 0.9.6 for changeset 9d37104b8328 (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/heqs/repository/revisions/fc844a8f7c87 20:10:38 <Brot6> HEQS "Heavy Equipment" Set - Revision 546:3a7cae4e85a8: Cleanup: remove bad tag (there were bug... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/heqs/repository/revisions/3a7cae4e85a8 20:10:38 <Brot6> HEQS "Heavy Equipment" Set - Revision 547:3df33a954323: Added tag 0.9.6 for changeset 3a7cae4e85a8 (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/heqs/repository/revisions/3df33a954323 20:11:22 <Brot6> heqs: update from 0.9.5 to 0.9.6 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/heqs/releases/0.9.6 20:11:47 <andythenorth> ^ and if that's good, it's pretty much 1.0 20:11:56 <andythenorth> but I have to play test a game first :P 20:11:56 <Ammler> why did you need to retag? 20:12:04 <andythenorth> I thought there was a bug 20:12:06 <Ammler> I see no change between except the removing 20:12:08 <andythenorth> it was a bug with my eyes 20:12:28 <Ammler> you really should try rollback and strip next time :-P 20:12:34 <andythenorth> I'm scared of strip :) 20:12:39 <andythenorth> I un-enabled it 20:12:47 <andythenorth> next time maybe 20:13:06 <Ammler> strip is the most missing function from redmine 20:13:23 <Ammler> maybe that will become my first plugin :-) 20:14:09 <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Revision 1047:06cc1e8f426a: Doc: The caveats of vehicle-related base costs... (Hirundo) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/nml/repository/revisions/06cc1e8f426a 20:14:09 <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Bug #1808 (Closed): Problem with PR_BUILD_VEHICLE_WAGON (Hirundo) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1808#change-4884 20:14:43 <Ammler> andythenorth: in your case, rollback would have been completely fine 20:14:59 <andythenorth> ok 20:15:11 <andythenorth> so tag is a special case of commit? 20:15:16 <Ammler> rollback is like strip but keeping the change 20:15:27 <Ammler> tag does update .hgtags and commit it 20:15:36 <Ammler> rollback does undo the commit 20:15:44 <Ammler> strip does undo the commit and revert 20:15:58 <andythenorth> so as long as I understand that tag commits .hgtags, I understand why rollback would work here :) 20:16:23 <Ammler> why rollback doesn't work, you meant 20:16:43 <Ammler> you need also to revert .hgtags 20:16:55 <Ammler> that is why in that case strip is better 20:17:03 <andythenorth> hmm 20:17:08 <andythenorth> maybe I don't understand :P 20:17:30 <Ammler> also strip does create backups, so you could quite simply undo strips 20:17:51 <Yexo> rollback removes the commit, but leaves the changes. SO if you do 'hg diff' after rollback you'll see the new tag in the diff 20:31:00 <Ammler> http://paste.pocoo.org/show/297302/ <-- what is my issue? 20:34:04 *** ODM has quit IRC 20:34:10 <Rubidium> missing .hg directory at remote host? 20:34:29 <Rubidium> i.e. pulling from somewhere that doesn't have the opengfx mercurial repository 20:34:47 <Yexo> what is the output of: cat .hg/hgrc ? 20:38:31 <Ammler> yes, it is something on the remote side 20:38:47 <Ammler> I just wonder, that I am the only one having issues with ssh :-) 20:39:44 <Yexo> I can pull opengfx over http fine, and nml works over ssh 20:40:29 <Ammler> ah, I missconfigured .ssh/config 20:41:13 <Ammler> maybe I have too many vpses now :-P 21:05:53 *** Doorslammer has quit IRC 21:35:48 *** thgergo has quit IRC 21:47:22 *** frosch123 has quit IRC 22:26:38 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 22:39:59 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 22:40:17 <andythenorth> seems my mac is accurate when it reports battery 0% 22:40:26 <andythenorth> I thought it was being pessimistic :P 22:41:16 <Rubidium> it is, because it shouldn't show 0% ever :) 22:41:29 <andythenorth> it didn't show it for long :P 22:42:03 <Brot6> Unable to connect to http://dev.openttdcoop.org/sys/: wrong constant name 2 22:49:02 <Brot6> Unable to connect to http://dev.openttdcoop.org/sys/: wrong constant name 2 22:49:56 <Ammler> hmm, still? 22:51:43 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 22:56:02 <Brot6> Unable to connect to http://dev.openttdcoop.org/sys/: wrong constant name 2 22:57:03 <Ammler> maschger 23:00:02 <Brot6> Unable to connect to http://dev.openttdcoop.org/sys/: wrong constant name 2 23:14:25 <Brot6> Unable to connect to http://dev.openttdcoop.org/sys/: wrong constant name 2 23:42:20 *** thgergo has joined #openttdcoop.devzone