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Log for #openttdcoop.devzone on 7th January 2011:
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03:58:19  <Brot6> AroAI - Patch #2132 (New): DevZone Compile Farm (fanioz) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2132
05:33:10  <Brot6> Bundles Update: g47ecba85 2011-01-07 cargodist   (http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/cargodist)
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07:54:58  <Brot6> Nutracks - Revision 125:1bcb2d4fe2cd: Add: More bits to parameter0 (DJNekkid) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/nutracks/repository/revisions/1bcb2d4fe2cd
07:54:58  <Brot6> Nutracks - Revision 126:9b8c5987f476: Change: Activated parameter0's choises (DJNekkid) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/nutracks/repository/revisions/9b8c5987f476
07:54:58  <Brot6> Nutracks - Revision 127:b909bb0f0093: Fix: defines can ofcourse not be over multiple lines (DJNekkid) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/nutracks/repository/revisions/b909bb0f0093
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10:43:15  <Brot6> 2cc train set - Feature #2133 (New): SBB Ee 3/3 II (Voyager1) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2133
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11:55:03  <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Road Vehicles - Bug #2134 (New): very small 2cc patch in toyland climate (alocritani) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2134
12:02:48  <Brot6> 2cc train set - Feature #2135 (New): OBB 2060 (Voyager1) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2135
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12:18:14  <Brot6> AI-Lib Direction - Revision 17:5b9607d583a5: Added tag v1 for changeset fb84df02cdcf (fanioz) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/ailib-direction/repository/revisions/5b9607d583a5
12:18:48  <Brot6> ailib-direction: update from  to v1 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/ailib-direction/releases/v1
12:22:00  <Brot6> AI-Lib List - Revision 26:419414bbc9d5: Added tag v1 for changeset 243419f4727b (fanioz) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/ailib-list/repository/revisions/419414bbc9d5
12:22:00  <Brot6> AI-Lib List - Revision 27:759de350a568: Added tag v2 for changeset cd2238f6f3d7 (fanioz) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/ailib-list/repository/revisions/759de350a568
12:22:00  <Brot6> AI-Lib List - Bug #2136 (New): DevZone compile failed (compiler) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2136
12:24:15  <Ammler> make: *** No rule to make target `bundle_tar'.  Stop.
12:26:11  <Ammler> also, why do you use tag "vX", but the bundle does not have the v?
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12:26:36  <fanioz> cp: cannot stat `/home/ottdc/chroots/devzone-openSUSE_11.3-x86_64-releases/usr/src/packages/BUILD/ailib-list/*.tar': No such file or directory
12:27:03  <Ammler> fanioz: yes, now check the other log
12:27:03  <fanioz> the makefile does 'cut' that v :D
12:27:26  <Ammler> well, if you wouldn't add that v, you wouldn't need to cut it
12:27:47  <fanioz> yup, but there is target 'bundle_tar' in makefile
12:30:12  <Ammler> fanioz: but not for v1 either v2
12:31:52  <Ammler> also shouldn't you gzip the tar?
12:32:40  <fanioz> okay, could you please trigger the compiler manually or should I re-tag it, because I found this on log:
12:32:41  <fanioz> + hg up v2
12:32:41  <fanioz> 2 files updated, 0 files merged, 8 files removed, 0 files unresolved
12:32:41  <fanioz> how could it remove those files
12:32:56  <Ammler> which files?
12:33:34  <Ammler> there error bundle will be removed automatically, if you push a working release
12:34:08  <fanioz> the log said that it remove 8 files, at line 243
12:34:56  <fanioz> okay, I'll check again before push
12:35:38  <Ammler> please paste the line
12:36:19  <Ammler> or just locally a "hg up v2"
12:36:31  <Ammler> maybe you tagged the wrong version?
12:38:02  <Ammler> how do you tag?
12:39:54  <fanioz> okay, found it
12:40:00  <fanioz> :D my bad
12:40:04  <fanioz> I'm sorry
12:40:44  <fanioz> the tag is for r13, where now is 27
12:41:30  <fanioz> hence no makefile yet :D
12:42:27  <Ammler> either merge or forget those old releases :-)
12:43:24  <fanioz> waiting for a few more time to test it, and release as v3  ;-)
12:44:26  <Ammler> this is not svn, so merging is quite easy
12:45:49  * fanioz reading his Mercurial - The Definitive Guide.pdf
12:46:47  <Ammler> or check bottom of http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/home/wiki/Mercurial
12:53:39  * fanioz took the idea about gzip-ing them
13:03:56  <Ammler> well, you need to provide the tar still
13:04:04  <Ammler> so it might not matter
13:04:05  <fanioz> Ammler, if the build become *tar.gz, is the compile farm could handle them? or you need to modify it too?
13:04:28  <Ammler> windows users can't handle .gz
13:04:42  <fanioz> 7zip?
13:05:01  <Ammler> of course, but windows users don't know that tool
13:05:08  <fanioz> :D
13:05:09  <Ammler> windows user = dump
13:05:59  <Ammler> b*
13:07:41  <Rubidium> if they're too "dumb" for extracting a tar.gz, do you think they would know where to extract it to?
13:07:49  <Rubidium> or should they just use the in-game downloader?
13:08:28  * fanioz vote for the 2nd 
13:13:52  <Brot6> OpenGFX - Bug #2137 (New): weird coast tiles (alocritani) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2137
13:14:25  <Brot6> OpenGFX - Bug #2138 (New): coast tiles under bridges (alocritani) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2138
13:14:45  <Rubidium> oh boy... he's going to get confused ;)
13:19:21  <Ammler> :-)
13:21:56  <frosch123> hmm, i guess he could be offended if rb closes them
13:22:32  <Rubidium> if I would be closing one it would be #2138 ;)
13:22:32  <Brot6> Rubidium: #2138 is http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/show/2138 "OpenGFX - Bug #2138: coast tiles under bridges - #openttdcoop Development Zone"
13:35:12  <Yexo> not sure how bridges are drawn currently, but wouldn't it be possible to fix #2138 ?
13:35:12  <Brot6> Yexo: #2138 is http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/show/2138 "OpenGFX - Bug #2138: coast tiles under bridges - #openttdcoop Development Zone"
13:35:19  <Yexo> in openttd of course, not opengfx
13:38:03  <Ammler> I would like opengfx water with ttd shores
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13:50:24  <frosch123> you just need to add a bit to the map
13:50:47  <frosch123> ttdp actually draws shore under bridges
13:51:01  <frosch123> for ottd it was always delayed in favour of custom bridge heads or whatever :p
13:54:59  <Brot6> DevZone Help Center - Bug #2086 (Closed): Files and Documents tag 'appear' (LordAro) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2086
13:54:59  <Brot6> DevZone Help Center - Bug #2086 (Closed): Files and Documents tag 'appear' (Ammler) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2086#change-5318
14:00:32  <Brot6> Polish PKP Set - pkp-alpha-source.zip (BarthVader) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/1302/pkp-alpha-source.zip
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15:11:27  <DanMacK> Hey all
16:00:51  <DJNekkid> Rubidium (or any other dutchies): whats frensh fries in dutch?
16:00:54  <DJNekkid> hi DanMacK
16:01:58  <DanMacK> According to Google Translator it's Frieten
16:03:42  <DJNekkid> thats not the word my wife is looking for :)
16:13:06  <DanMacK> hmmm
16:25:21  <frosch123> maybe "patat"
17:18:12  <Brot6> 2cctrainset: update from r716 to r718 done (6 errors) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/2cctrainset/nightlies/r718
17:18:23  <Brot6> ailib-direction: update from r16 to r17 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/ailib-direction/nightlies/r17
17:18:31  <Brot6> ailib-list: update from r25 to r27 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/ailib-list/nightlies/r27
17:19:11  <Brot6> nutracks: update from r124 to r127 done (3 errors) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/nutracks/nightlies/r127
17:19:18  <Brot6> Following repos didn't need a nightlies update: 32bpp-extra (r39), ai-admiralai (r75), ailib-common (r21), ailib-string (r29), ailib-tile (r16), airportsplus (r70), basecosts (r22), belarusiantowns (r8), bros (r45), comic-houses (r71), firs (r1627), fish (r509), frenchtowns (r6), grfcodec (r818), heqs (r567), indonesiantowns (r41), manindu (r6), metrotrackset (r56), narvs (r5), newgrf_makefile (r254), nml (r1124), ogfx-industries (r3),
17:19:19  <Brot6> ogfx-landscape (r19), ogfx-rv (r78), ogfx-trains (r201), ogfx-trees (r42), opengfx (r593), openmsx (r97), opensfx (r97), smts (r19), snowlinemod (r45), spanishtowns (r10), swedishrails (r193), swisstowns (r22), transrapidtrackset (r15), ttdviewer (r26), ttrs (r24), worldairlinersset (r671)
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18:33:04  <Brot6> 2cc train set - Feature #2139 (New): OBB 1063 (Voyager1) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2139
19:00:56  <Brot6> 32bpp-ez-patches: compile of r21740 still failed (#2069) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/32bpp-ez-patches/testing/ERROR/r21740
19:01:40  <Ammler> shouldn't that be ÖBB?
19:03:45  <Brot6> clientpatches: update from r21488 to r21488 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/clientpatches/testing/r21488
19:04:50  <Brot6> serverpatches: compile of r21740 still failed (#2080) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/serverpatches/testing/ERROR/r21740
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19:30:25  <Brot6> 2cc train set - Feature #2140 (New): SBB Eem 923 (Voyager1) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2140
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20:16:59  <DanMacK> Hey Andy
20:17:22  <andythenorth> hi DanMacK
20:17:36  <andythenorth> depending on chores & babies, this might be a weekend for catching some FISH
20:25:55  <Ammler> FISH 1.0 :-)
20:26:43  <Ammler> he well fish and roadtypes :-P
20:31:19  <planetmaker> sounds awesome
20:36:50  <andythenorth> roadtypes will be slow
20:36:58  <andythenorth> I don't really know how to start yet :P
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21:12:23  <Brot6> AroAI - Patch #2132 (Assigned): DevZone Compile Farm (fanioz) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2132
21:12:23  <Brot6> AroAI - Patch #2132 (Assigned): DevZone Compile Farm (LordAro) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2132#change-5319
21:39:18  <Brot6> openttdlib - OpenTTDLib-0.3.2.zip (dih) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/1305/OpenTTDLib-0.3.2.zip
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22:10:03  <Brot6> Java OpenTTD Admin Library - Revision 42:6bfcbaf1f54f: Change: Packet throws RuntimeException aft... (dih) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/joan/repository/revisions/6bfcbaf1f54f
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22:25:58  <Brot6> Java OpenTTD Admin Library - Revision 43:aa9cc826f268: Doc: unify file documentation (dih) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/joan/repository/revisions/aa9cc826f268
22:28:40  <Brot6> OpenTTDLib - OpenTTDLib-0.3.2.zip (dih) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/1305/OpenTTDLib-0.3.2.zip
22:31:33  <Brot6> Java OpenTTD Admin Library - Revision 44:616fb8950d11: Cleanup: give Protocol a constructor to av... (dih) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/joan/repository/revisions/616fb8950d11
22:32:47  <Ammler> dihedral: gave your phplib a nicer name :-)
22:34:17  <Ammler> you knew this link? http://hg.openttdcoop.org/openttdlib/archive/tip.zip
22:35:14  <dihedral> nope - i did not know that link ^^
22:35:33  <dihedral> the actual name is openttdlib :-)
22:35:36  <Ammler> or if you tag, it you got also those links via hg
22:35:38  <dihedral> and hello
22:36:06  <dihedral> are they available as links for others to download?
22:36:14  <Ammler> yops
22:36:35  <Ammler> http://hg.openttdcoop.org/openttdlib/ <-- check here
22:36:35  * dihedral smiles
22:36:50  <dihedral> yeah - i meant in redmine :-P
22:37:01  <dihedral> that is cool though, thank you :-)
22:37:05  <Ammler> well, you can add those links to redmine :-P
22:37:53  <dihedral> in the wiki, but it's not done automatic is it?
22:38:20  <Ammler> the most projects on devzone need a bit release preparing, so they can't use it
22:38:57  <Ammler> the links, no, but you can use tip or <tag>
22:39:08  <Ammler> or branch
22:39:41  <Ammler> e.g. make a branch stable, then you got a link like http://hg.openttdcoop.org/openttdlib/archive/stable.zip
22:40:19  <dihedral> that's cool :-)
22:40:29  <Ammler> that is hg itself
22:40:33  <dihedral> well, yeah - for the java projects, that preparing is done on the hudson server ^^
22:40:54  <Ammler> yeah, and for the other projects, most need to prepare something too
22:40:58  <dihedral> which does ease up a lot of stuff
22:46:40  <Ammler> dihedral: maybe you also need to port openttdlib to the adminif :-P
22:48:08  <dihedral> well - in a certain way :-P
22:48:23  <dihedral> i.e. use information from grapes
22:48:36  <dihedral> but i think a tcp connection per website call would be a bit over the top
22:48:47  <dihedral> seeing as only 16 connections are available for that
22:48:53  <Ammler> does grapes already cache?
22:48:57  <dihedral> but i was already thinking of some type of proxy for that
22:49:09  <dihedral> grapes does no caching
22:49:10  <dihedral> well
22:49:11  <dihedral> sorry
22:49:28  <Ammler> sorry?
22:49:43  <dihedral> joan :-) it keeps representatives of what it knows of the game - e.g. there are client objects
22:49:47  <dihedral> and company objects
22:50:05  <dihedral> but the information is not cached from one connection to openttd, to another connection
22:50:17  <dihedral> so as long as joan is connected that data is there
22:50:43  <Ammler> well, you start joan with the server
22:50:52  <dihedral> depending on the update stuff one has asked for :-P
22:51:02  <Ammler> hmm, does joan survive a openttd restart?
22:51:05  <dihedral> joan can connect at any point
22:51:19  <Brot6> Java OpenTTD Admin Library - Revision 45:43584eb489c7: Cleanup: coding style (dih) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/joan/repository/revisions/43584eb489c7
22:51:24  <dihedral> depends on the definition of 'restart' :-D
22:51:33  <dihedral> i.e. the 'newgame' command, yes
22:51:38  <dihedral> quit and start: no
22:51:39  <Ammler> no, kill openttd
22:51:54  <dihedral> joan is just the network stuff
22:52:12  <Ammler> well, with joan/grapes, we wouldn't need to restart openttd anymore
22:52:16  <Ammler> only with update
22:52:17  <dihedral> so the network socket gets closed, that's it for joan
22:52:30  <dihedral> however, whatever is used to implement that lib, can handle it
22:53:07  <Ammler> e.g. we restart stable for the logfile only anymore
22:53:18  <dihedral> and if i am not mistaken, it could be handled with a plugin :-P
22:53:24  <Ammler> that should be done via joan
22:53:42  <dihedral> logging can be done remote now
22:53:56  <dihedral> just have not taught joan how to do that yet :-P
22:54:01  <dihedral> but openttd supports it
22:55:04  <dihedral> one could teach an implementation to rotate files on every 'welcome' packet it receives (which means a new or loaded game)
22:55:14  <dihedral> or new connection to the server
23:02:06  <Brot6> Java OpenTTD Admin Library - Revision 46:1c300f4dbd06: Change: use static block instead of too lo... (dih) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/joan/repository/revisions/1c300f4dbd06
23:02:10  <dihedral> that is why i am working somewhat on joan, as i need it to support that logging stuff too
23:09:48  <dihedral> anyway - good night :-)
23:09:54  <Ammler> yes, good night
23:09:55  <dihedral> and thanks for the links Ammler
23:10:13  <Brot6> Java OpenTTD Admin Library - Revision 47:074713d3afc2: Cleanup: coding style (dih) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/joan/repository/revisions/074713d3afc2
23:10:13  <Brot6> Java OpenTTD Admin Library - Revision 48:c99fae97365a: Cleanup: coding style (dih) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/joan/repository/revisions/c99fae97365a
23:10:47  <Ammler> btw. there is a new module "Tab links", where you can add links to the redmine tabs
23:13:40  <dihedral> i saw the module :-)
23:13:50  <dihedral> i did not find where to configure them though - probably i was just blind
23:13:59  <dihedral> i am really tired :-D
23:14:03  <dihedral> should not be doing code review then either :-P
23:14:23  <dihedral> i'd just go from poor quallity to shitty quallity without knowing it :-P
23:14:24  <dihedral> hihi
23:14:39  <dihedral> i'll see you tomorrow afternoon / evening
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