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00:11:22 <Brot6> Backup test: abort: no suitable response from remote hg! 00:39:37 *** frosch123 has quit IRC 00:45:32 *** Lakie` has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 00:52:22 *** Lakie has quit IRC 00:53:48 *** Lakie` is now known as Lakie 00:56:10 *** KenjiE20 has quit IRC 00:56:17 *** thgergo has quit IRC 03:19:41 *** Lakie has quit IRC 03:19:41 *** avdg has left #openttdcoop.devzone 07:44:15 <Brot6> nml: compile of r1132 still failed (#2167) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/nml/nightlies/ERROR/r1132 07:45:22 <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Revision 1132:4ce8148c1b7e: Fix: NewObject animation triggers is a word-si... (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/nml/repository/revisions/4ce8148c1b7e 07:49:20 *** LordAro has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 08:05:00 <Brot6> nml: compile of r1133 still failed (#2167) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/nml/nightlies/ERROR/r1133 08:05:33 <planetmaker> ^ still obs broken... 08:26:33 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 08:37:35 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 08:44:37 <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Revision 1133:6f01dd35ff1b: Doc: Callbacks for NewObjects (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/nml/repository/revisions/6f01dd35ff1b 09:31:46 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 09:36:52 <Brot6> 2cc train set - Feature #2175: Parameter for train type availability (Voyager1) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2175#change-5366 09:42:00 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 09:44:00 <Brot6> 2cc train set - Feature #2175: Parameter for train type availability (Terkhen) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2175#change-5367 09:44:52 <Brot6> 2cc train set - Feature #2175: Parameter for train type availability (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2175#change-5368 09:45:16 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 09:46:13 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 10:06:16 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 10:51:32 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 11:34:23 *** KenjiE20 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 11:53:18 *** LordAro_ has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 11:58:23 *** LordAro has quit IRC 12:23:08 *** frosch123 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 12:33:05 <Brot6> 2cc train set - Feature #2175: Parameter for train type availability (DJNekkid) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2175#change-5369 12:38:59 *** Lakie has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 12:43:18 <Brot6> 2cc train set - Feature #2162: SJ V4 (Voyager1) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2162#change-5370 12:50:19 <Brot6> nml: compile of r1134 still failed (#2167) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/nml/nightlies/ERROR/r1134 13:09:13 <Brot6> ogfx-landscape: compile of r21 still failed (#2169) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/ogfx-landscape/nightlies/ERROR/r21 13:10:12 <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Landscape - Revision 21:f5432b5bfe1a: Feature: Wind powerplant as NewObject (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/ogfx-landscape/repository/revisions/f5432b5bfe1a 13:12:11 <Terkhen> nice :) 13:20:35 <Ammler> nml has newobject support :-o 13:26:10 <planetmaker> Ammler: for months actually :-) 13:27:14 <planetmaker> but no-one tested it, so I found two bugs when trying to get it into the game ;-) 13:28:55 <planetmaker> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=52396 <-- screenshot 13:28:56 <Webster> Title: Transport Tycoon Forums View topic - OpenGFX+ Landscape (at www.tt-forums.net) 13:30:29 <Ammler> also nice, if you commit now, we got realtime test, when obs api is working again 13:30:50 <planetmaker> well. it does not :-( 13:31:15 <Ammler> yeah, obviously 13:32:18 <planetmaker> well. Finally I got the wind powerplant :-) I wanted it ingame for a long time ;-) 13:32:37 <planetmaker> and with animation, of course 13:33:09 <planetmaker> one thing bugs me, though: I cannot change the purchase price as a function of where it is build. If build on water I'd like to make it 10x as expensive 13:37:11 <Ammler> you need to pay for objects? 13:37:28 <planetmaker> yes 13:37:35 <planetmaker> if the grf author wants 13:37:43 <planetmaker> I want the player to pay for powerplants 13:37:54 <Ammler> and the company is the owner? 13:38:03 <planetmaker> of the object? yes 13:40:29 <Ammler> does the windfarm change direction? 13:40:31 <Brot6> ogfx-landscape: compile of r22 still failed (#2169) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/ogfx-landscape/nightlies/ERROR/r22 13:40:40 <planetmaker> it doesn't change direction 13:40:47 <planetmaker> just the blades rotate 13:41:15 <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Landscape - Revision 22:8cb28c02da98: Fix: Credits of wind power plant also go in parts ... (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/ogfx-landscape/repository/revisions/8cb28c02da98 13:41:21 <Ammler> ok, but they made different direction sprites, afarik 13:41:34 <planetmaker> uhm? 13:44:06 <Ammler> is the suboptimal transition from grass to sand caused by the nogrid spries? 13:44:41 <planetmaker> in what way sub-optimal? 13:45:02 <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Revision 1134:d147d9890170: Fix: Some not so obvious braces were missing w... (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/nml/repository/revisions/d147d9890170 13:45:09 <Ammler> ugly 13:45:31 <planetmaker> it's not different from default. except removed grid lines 13:45:52 <planetmaker> I see not where it is ugly 13:46:28 <Ammler> there is almost no transition 13:46:39 <planetmaker> eh? 13:48:59 <Ammler> mäh, un-flag is going to win 13:49:35 <planetmaker> good 13:49:40 <Ammler> is that the same flag, openttd uses for "every language"? 13:49:50 <planetmaker> the same symbol, yes 13:49:59 <planetmaker> and that's why it is good :-) 13:50:01 <Ammler> I voted for no flag 13:50:09 <planetmaker> I know. And I voted for UN ;-) 13:50:44 <Ammler> un flag is indeed so wrong as some already mentioned 13:51:01 <planetmaker> it is the only right thing as already argued 13:51:13 <planetmaker> and now? 13:51:23 <planetmaker> that's what the vote is for ;-) 13:51:38 <Ammler> why should un flag indicated future vehicle? 13:52:02 <planetmaker> it's a vehicle which is at home everywhere in the world 13:52:08 <planetmaker> And that's what the flags indicate 13:52:16 <Ammler> :-) 13:52:47 <Ammler> un is political, openttd should not do such things 13:52:59 <planetmaker> UN is hardly political 13:53:11 <planetmaker> unless you consider the choice of language 'political' 13:53:27 <Ammler> un does decide which country is "bad" which is "good" 13:53:34 <planetmaker> and UN is the best representation of 'every country' there is 13:54:39 <planetmaker> before you argue against the UN flag, you first would need to argue against all flags which represent a language already. 13:54:41 <planetmaker> good luck 13:55:02 <Ammler> why should I? 13:55:13 <Ammler> which other language flag is bad? 13:55:16 <planetmaker> or heritage. Or you need to argue consistent, and then you need to vote for the UN flag to represent a vehicle which can be home everywhere 13:55:28 <planetmaker> Ammler: every. They are political. Much more than the UN flag 13:56:03 <Ammler> Deutschland does represent German, that is not political, imo 13:56:12 <planetmaker> lol 13:56:20 <planetmaker> but UN is? 13:56:20 <Ammler> :-D 13:56:30 <Ammler> un does select good and bad countries 13:56:35 <Ammler> that is quite much political 13:56:58 <planetmaker> so does your governemtn. So does the German, so does every governemet 13:57:13 <planetmaker> It's the governments behind the individual flags which decide on 'good' and 'bad'. 13:57:49 <Ammler> Deutschland is always German, also in the time with Hitler 13:57:54 <planetmaker> and, btw: the UN does not decide on 'good' and 'bad' 13:58:50 <planetmaker> It may decide with the majority of ALL member states (which is really ALL countries in the world, except taiwan, vatican, west sahara and maybe one, two others ALL) which actions are not tolerable 13:59:10 <planetmaker> yes, also Switzerland ;-) 14:01:00 <Ammler> yeah, maybe I think about it different, because we aren't that long member 14:01:21 <planetmaker> but you wanted to tell me where the desert transition is ugly... http://devs.openttd.org/~planetmaker/patches/trans1.png http://devs.openttd.org/~planetmaker/patches/trans2.png http://devs.openttd.org/~planetmaker/patches/trans3.png 14:01:35 <Ammler> I would say, the US does tell the UN, which country it needs to define good, which bad 14:01:57 <planetmaker> you may say so. Doesn't make it true, though 14:02:43 <planetmaker> because Russia and China have exactly the same influence 14:04:00 <Ammler> not sure about russia, china is quite much accepted by usa 14:18:09 *** thgergo has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 14:28:19 <Brot6> fish: compile of r524 still failed (#2168) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/fish/nightlies/ERROR/r524 14:34:31 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 14:44:23 <Brot6> FISH - Revision 521:aa1957fa466b: Change: setup offsets for Paddle Steamer (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/fish/repository/revisions/aa1957fa466b 14:44:23 <Brot6> FISH - Revision 522:205bf6d4ae3f: Feature: wake / bow wash for Paddle Steamer (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/fish/repository/revisions/205bf6d4ae3f 14:44:23 <Brot6> FISH - Revision 523:4fc562affdbe: Cleanup: remove some unneeded defines that were causing a build... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/fish/repository/revisions/4fc562affdbe 14:44:23 <Brot6> FISH - Revision 524:b86a4e3537b6: Feature: include Paddle Steamer in FISH (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/fish/repository/revisions/b86a4e3537b6 15:01:42 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 15:04:56 *** OwenS has quit IRC 15:05:31 *** OwenS has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 15:12:21 *** avdg has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 15:20:50 *** tneo has quit IRC 15:21:20 *** tneo has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 15:29:48 *** LordAro_ has quit IRC 15:34:53 *** LordAro has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 15:36:31 *** LordAro has quit IRC 15:50:40 *** DanMacK has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 15:50:52 * DanMacK waves 15:51:52 * planetmaker waves back 15:56:32 *** DJNekkid has quit IRC 15:56:43 *** DJNekkid has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 15:58:16 <Terkhen> hi DanMacK 16:14:18 <DanMacK> How goes it? 16:19:39 * planetmaker discovers NewObjects 16:30:15 <planetmaker> http://paste.openttdcoop.org/show/53/ <-- Yexo or Hirundo: is there already a way to write a sprite layout with parameters? The NML source seems to hint at it, but I can't neither find anywhere an example nor did I manage to deduce the syntax from the NML source? 16:36:21 <Yexo> I think it was planned but not yet implemented 16:36:41 <Yexo> but Hirundo did most work on spritelayouts, so he'll probably know better 16:38:19 <planetmaker> hm, ok, thanks 16:38:52 <Hirundo> I'll have to dig in the source to see exactly how far I got and document that properly in docs/.. 16:40:57 <planetmaker> I'm faced with the task to provide a newObject which just uses the existing ground type. Which is about... 2*32 cases just for that, but the slope is a continuous sprite number, so it would be nice to be able to just add to the first sprite number the tile_slope result and use that in the layout 16:41:19 <planetmaker> hm 32 might be too much. But sufficient 16:42:14 <planetmaker> 19 16:45:52 <Hirundo> are slope sprites organised nicely enough for 'sprite = base_sprite + tile_slope' to work? 16:46:16 <frosch123> not for steep slopes 16:46:40 <frosch123> not sure about flat tiles either 16:50:08 <planetmaker> it worked for the first 5 entries, so I assumed the rest 16:56:54 *** Doorslammer has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 16:59:52 <Doorslammer> Good ideas for programs #879: an app that looks through Bananas, looks through your downloaded NewGRFs and deletes the old chaff 16:59:52 <Brot6> Doorslammer: #879 is http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/show/879 "Example NewGRF Project - Bug #879: distclean: don't clean md5sums in tarball - #openttdcoop Development Zone" 17:00:06 <Doorslammer> I've done a bad thing there 17:00:18 <Doorslammer> Fecking IRC, I dunno... 17:06:40 *** Doorslammer has quit IRC 17:13:11 *** Hirundo_web has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 17:13:54 <Hirundo_web> planetmaker: http://pastebin.com/Sp6kpw9Z <- this is the slope->sprite conversion table used by openttd 17:15:12 <planetmaker> he 17:17:24 <Brot6> Following repos didn't need a nightlies update: 2cctrainset (r718), 32bpp-extra (r39), ai-admiralai (r75), ai-aroai (r10), ailib-common (r21), ailib-direction (r17), ailib-list (r32), ailib-string (r29), ailib-tile (r16), airportsplus (r70), basecosts (r22), belarusiantowns (r8), bros (r45), comic-houses (r71), firs (r1627), fish (ERROR r524), frenchtowns (r6), grfcodec (r818), heqs (r567), indonesiantowns (r41), manindu (r6), 17:17:24 <Brot6> metrotrackset (r56), narvs (r5), newgrf_makefile (r254), nml (ERROR r1134), ogfx-industries (r3), ogfx-landscape (ERROR r22), ogfx-rv (r78), ogfx-trains (r201), ogfx-trees (r42), opengfx (r593), openmsx (r97), opensfx (r97), smts (r19), snowlinemod (r45), spanishtowns (r10), swedishrails (r193), swisstowns (r22), transrapidtrackset (r15), ttdviewer (r26), ttrs (r24), worldairlinersset (r671) 17:17:45 <Brot6> Nutracks - Bug #2176 (New): DevZone compile failed (compiler) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2176 17:21:57 *** Hirundo_web has quit IRC 17:39:27 *** KenjiE20 has quit IRC 17:40:34 *** KenjiE20 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 17:44:48 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 17:44:50 <Brot6> Polish PKP Set - Revision 1:b53ad9a7a02e: Feature: Pm36-2 "Piękna Helena" ("Beautiful Helena") (BarthVader) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/pkp-trainset/repository/revisions/b53ad9a7a02e 17:44:50 <Brot6> Polish PKP Set - Revision 2:ce0d534a33e9: Added compiled grf (BarthVader) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/pkp-trainset/repository/revisions/ce0d534a33e9 18:07:21 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 18:13:47 <Ammler> :'-( 18:14:21 <Ammler> why is .grf not in the hook? 18:15:18 <Ammler> added 18:19:29 <planetmaker> he :-) 18:19:45 <planetmaker> that was indeed a very bad commit 18:20:34 <Ammler> last time, a noob pushed a grf 18:21:11 <planetmaker> :-) 18:22:01 <Terkhen> :) 18:22:17 <planetmaker> is Makefile.local also (still) in that hook? 18:22:46 <planetmaker> I still don't know how I could in case of need circumvent the hook... 18:23:11 <Ammler> bad-endings = .pyc .pyo .bak .log .orig .rej .patch ~ .grf 18:23:13 <Ammler> bad-names = makefile.local makefile.dep .renum .directory .ds_store thumbs.db 18:24:03 <planetmaker> is that case insensitive? 18:24:04 <Ammler> afaik it is docuemtned in the .devzone wiki 18:24:23 <Ammler> oh, you were able to commit a makefile.local? 18:24:27 <planetmaker> because the filename is .DS_Store 18:24:53 <planetmaker> Ammler: well. yes. no. I had the repo locally and was at r10 or so. Hard to undo ;-) 18:25:15 <planetmaker> I think I bugged you that I could just push the repo and then fixed that 18:25:22 <Ammler> so your question about case sensistive is answered :-P 18:25:27 <planetmaker> hu? 18:25:30 <planetmaker> no 18:25:35 <Ammler> Makefile.local 18:25:39 <planetmaker> ah 18:25:48 <planetmaker> :-) indeed 18:41:34 <Brot6> 2cc train set - Feature #2175: Parameter for train type availability (Voyager1) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2175#change-5371 18:43:30 <Brot6> #openttdcoop NewGRF package - Revision 273:770eb149a3a1: Change: extend .hgignore with build files (Ammler) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/grfpack/repository/revisions/770eb149a3a1 18:43:30 <Brot6> #openttdcoop NewGRF package - Revision 274:ff87975d764e: Change: allow push .grf to this repo (Ammler) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/grfpack/repository/revisions/ff87975d764e 18:44:35 <Ammler> planetmaker: check this commit ^ 18:47:52 <Brot6> 2cc train set - Feature #2177 (New): SW1200 (Voyager1) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2177 18:59:47 <Brot6> 32bpp-ez-patches: compile of r21811 still failed (#2069) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/32bpp-ez-patches/testing/ERROR/r21811 19:00:27 <Brot6> clientpatches: compile of r21811 still failed (#2171) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/clientpatches/testing/ERROR/r21811 19:01:15 <Brot6> serverpatches: compile of r21811 still failed (#2080) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/serverpatches/testing/ERROR/r21811 19:03:43 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 19:05:19 <planetmaker> interesting, Ammler - care to add to the newgrf makefile repo? 19:07:03 <DanMacK> WB Andy 19:07:07 <Ammler> what would you like to add there? 19:07:49 <planetmaker> your commit, so that it gets clear how to change it, if needed. But with default settings 19:08:00 <Ammler> maybe a target "make dz.build" or "make dz.hook" 19:10:30 <Ammler> we could indeed add it to the makefile framework directly 19:17:26 <Ammler> but if we add it, we should add it with the message filter enabled too 19:29:33 <DJNekkid> planetmaker: do you know if action14 support bit-settings, (1-2-4-8-etc) 19:29:53 <DJNekkid> and if i set it to, for example, 3, the values of both 1 and 2 would show? 19:35:08 <Ammler> DJNekkid: it does 19:35:22 <Ammler> oh, you didn't ask me 19:35:33 * andythenorth wishes there was some easy way to composite sprites :P 19:37:34 <DJNekkid> Ammler: i guess i didnt, but thanx :) 19:39:24 <DJNekkid> do you know if i have 3 different values, say: 1 - Steam | 2 - Diesel | 4 - Electric ... And if the user sets it to 7, then it would say "Steam Diesel Electric" in the gui ? 19:40:01 <Ammler> DJNekkid: the gui for bitswitches are the red/green dots 19:40:08 <DJNekkid> andythenorth: i guess photoshow or some kind of layering is your best solution :) 19:40:18 <Ammler> there are a lot grfs around with those 19:40:22 <DJNekkid> in an horizontal line? 19:40:38 <Ammler> e.g http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/manindu 19:40:57 <andythenorth> photoshop means a lot of copy-paste :( 19:40:59 <andythenorth> ho hum 19:40:59 <DJNekkid> or vertically underneeth eachother? 19:41:32 <Ammler> DJNekkid: does it matter :-P 19:42:53 <planetmaker> the usual way as boolean settings are shown 19:44:45 <DJNekkid> yes, it matters a little bit look at #2175 ... And i dont want the grf-setting list to be multiple pages long... 19:44:45 <Brot6> DJNekkid: yes: #2175 is http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/show/2175 "2cc train set - Feature #2175: Parameter for train type availability - #openttdcoop Development Zone" 19:45:28 <planetmaker> why does it matter? 19:45:30 <Ammler> still better as using complicated number calculation 19:45:46 <DJNekkid> but now im off to a party... perhaps some kind of parameter multiply thingy... :) tty 2morrow :) 19:46:05 <planetmaker> oh oh. Don't force the user to make calculations 19:46:08 <DJNekkid> it matters because if the grf-setting gui is multiple pages long, it probably wont be used :) 19:46:10 <DJNekkid> i wont :) 19:47:03 <Ammler> nobody cares about you :-P 19:47:53 <Ammler> but I prefer clicking those dots, insead calculating the number to get same result 19:48:28 <planetmaker> DJNekkid: then don't give the user page-long boolean choices 19:48:45 <planetmaker> make and an either-or-list and use a one-of-multiple setting 20:20:32 <Brot6> fish: compile of r525 still failed (#2168) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/fish/nightlies/ERROR/r525 20:23:48 <Brot6> fish: compile of r526 still failed (#2168) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/fish/nightlies/ERROR/r526 20:23:59 <andythenorth> :o 20:24:24 <andythenorth> Ammler: what have I broken? 20:29:22 <Ammler> nothing 20:29:44 <Ammler> the obs api is still not working 20:37:35 *** LordAro has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 20:44:54 <Brot6> FISH - Revision 525:6d8a774d66e2: Change: use png for Log Rafts (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/fish/repository/revisions/6d8a774d66e2 20:44:54 <Brot6> FISH - Revision 526:1795a2ff12e7: Cleanup: remove pcx file for log raft (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/fish/repository/revisions/1795a2ff12e7 22:14:39 *** andythenorth has left #openttdcoop.devzone 22:56:34 <Brot6> 2cc train set - Feature #2178 (New): MAV Class 377 (Voyager1) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2178 23:13:22 *** ODM has quit IRC 23:25:16 *** frosch123 has quit IRC