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00:50:09 *** Lakie has quit IRC 05:29:44 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 05:58:41 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 2001:6e921ce75e45: Change: update description to reflect... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/6e921ce75e45 06:12:41 *** frosch123 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 06:52:41 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 07:00:41 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 2002:923a898e8f04: Change: improve appearance of Machine... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/923a898e8f04 07:01:31 <planetmaker> andythenorth: when you change a pcx you can just as well change it to png ;-) same diff size 07:01:45 <andythenorth> yes, I should do that 07:01:59 <planetmaker> but not in a separate commit just to change it, that's not worth it 07:02:11 <planetmaker> except... if you do it for all at once 07:02:48 <andythenorth> might batch convert them at some point 07:02:56 <andythenorth> some are converted, some not so far 07:03:14 <planetmaker> yes :-) 07:22:12 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 2003:7b61e2b75f4b: Change: add vehicle tracks to concret... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/7b61e2b75f4b 07:23:22 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #2709 (Closed): Remove or rework layout 1 at machine shop (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2709#change-6823 07:29:23 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 2004:219caa804d87: Change: move Recyclables cargo to ID ... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/219caa804d87 07:29:23 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Bug #2539 (Closed): Recyclables cargo appears as regearing with N... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2539#change-6824 07:35:41 <Terkhen> andythenorth: http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/entry/sprites/nfo/lang/7F_any.pnfo#L296 <-- that's wrong now :) 07:36:33 <andythenorth> hmm 07:36:38 <andythenorth> I changed it in header.pnfo 07:36:41 <andythenorth> but not the lang file 07:36:49 <andythenorth> commit 2001 in FIRS ;) 07:36:55 <andythenorth> feel free... 07:38:05 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 2005:ea1d9769d701: Fix: Textile Mill layout 2 was broken... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/ea1d9769d701 07:38:05 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Bug #2595 (Closed): textile mill layout 2 appears to be broken (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2595#change-6825 07:38:20 <Terkhen> :) 07:39:18 <andythenorth> commits are fun 07:39:40 * andythenorth rarely has enough time + spare brain together these days for commits 07:41:50 * andythenorth is reluctant to add new nfo code to FIRS 07:41:54 <andythenorth> if we're doing an nml conversion... 07:44:40 <andythenorth> also 07:44:55 <andythenorth> I need to make it only one recycling depot per town 07:45:05 <andythenorth> and that needs to be applied to players constructing too 07:45:13 <andythenorth> otherwise it's a griefing opportunity... 07:49:16 <Terkhen> andythenorth: in ogfx-industries we only allow one of certain industries for every x houses in the town 07:49:27 <andythenorth> I thought of doing that 07:49:38 <andythenorth> recycling depot production depends on population 07:49:39 <Terkhen> but IIRC the production of the recycling depot was based in town size, right? 07:49:51 <andythenorth> so if player A has a nice route with a high production recycling depot... 07:49:56 <andythenorth> player B could destroy that 07:50:08 <andythenorth> funding recycling depots 07:50:16 <andythenorth> one per town is fine 07:50:23 <Terkhen> yes 07:50:27 <andythenorth> I have discovered odd results in my existing location code though :( 09:45:40 *** andythenorth has left #openttdcoop.devzone 10:59:33 <Yexo> why is andy offline everything I want to type a reaction? :s 10:59:41 <Yexo> s/thing/time/ 11:00:10 <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Revision 1393:66d87de0428e: Cleanup: remove generc.to_hex and use python s... (yexo) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/nml/repository/revisions/66d87de0428e 11:00:10 <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Revision 1394:045d1b646a48: Codechange: do all error output to stderr via ... (yexo) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/nml/repository/revisions/045d1b646a48 11:00:10 <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Revision 1395:2988e3cd0b9e: Codechange: don't directly use a thorn in the ... (yexo) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/nml/repository/revisions/2988e3cd0b9e 11:00:14 <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Revision 1396:822cea8de4ac: Fix: only use spaces, no tabs (yexo) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/nml/repository/revisions/822cea8de4ac 11:00:24 <planetmaker> because he joins and leaves frequently and erratically and avoids to use a bouncer :S 11:00:29 <Rubidium> Yexo: because fonso is everytime I try to ask/tell him something? 11:00:49 <Rubidium> though with fonso it's worse... 11:00:54 <Rubidium> as he usually times out 11:01:28 <Rubidium> meaning that whatever paper I've written in the last 8 minutes will never arrive 13:04:19 *** Lakie has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 13:32:41 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 15:10:50 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 2006:06724980a38f: Change: improved location limiting co... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/06724980a38f 15:39:01 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 2007:f283c64f137a: Change: (translations) add location l... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/f283c64f137a 15:44:40 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 2008:84da373bcefe: Change: mark some strings as deprecated (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/84da373bcefe 15:44:40 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 2009:52b7b2c5c974: Change: adjust probabilities of Recyc... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/52b7b2c5c974 15:45:29 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #2477 (Closed): Recycling depot needs location code (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2477#change-6826 15:46:48 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Bug #2540 (Rejected): Recycling Depots built in 1881 (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2540#change-6827 15:51:44 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 2010:e30bed883dce: Cleanup: mark up more deprecated / un... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/e30bed883dce 15:54:04 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 2011:f864654224b4: Fix: last commit broke the build :o ... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/f864654224b4 16:01:57 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #2527 (Closed): Limit recycling depot to one per town (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2527#change-6833 16:02:50 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #2451: Remove requirement for Grain Mill to build near town? (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2451#change-6834 16:05:21 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature Request #2342 (Closed): Extended Sprite Layout support (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2342#change-6836 16:19:45 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 2012:a5d612772f16: Change: improve location code for Gra... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/a5d612772f16 16:20:44 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #2451 (Closed): Remove requirement for Grain Mill to buil... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2451#change-6840 16:37:28 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 2013:a11a99f70dd6: Fix: Petrol Pump was missing intro da... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/a11a99f70dd6 16:37:28 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #2525 (Rejected): Hotel should produce PAX (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2525#change-6842 16:39:07 <Terkhen> it could produce the exact amount of passengers it received, after some random time :P 16:39:21 <andythenorth> yes it could 16:39:29 <andythenorth> or just last month's 16:39:41 <andythenorth> it would be quite easy to store incoming PAX 16:39:57 <andythenorth> and then pull a fraction of them each time production cb runs 16:40:09 <andythenorth> does it add to gameplay? 16:40:14 <Terkhen> not much :P 16:40:25 <Terkhen> the effect will be mostly the same 16:40:39 <andythenorth> might leave it rejected though 16:40:50 <andythenorth> though / then /s 16:41:02 <Terkhen> yes :) 16:41:22 * andythenorth wonders what distance checks to impose on petrol pump 16:41:34 <andythenorth> #2521 16:41:35 <Brot6> andythenorth: #2521 is http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/show/2521 "FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #2521: Distance checks for Petrol Pump - #openttdcoop Development Zone" 16:41:47 <Terkhen> I should check the spanish translation... I don't remember any hotel or petrol pump 16:42:42 <Terkhen> ah, now I know what is the petrol pump :) 16:42:47 <andythenorth> spanish doesn't appear here :o http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/firs/nightlies/LATEST/log/ 16:43:15 <Terkhen> I'm more used to gas/petrol station, pump confused me :) 16:43:45 <Terkhen> IMO it should be at the borders of the town, always adjacent to a road 16:44:25 <andythenorth> it is always adjacent to road 16:44:35 <andythenorth> it can also build in middle of nowhere, which I think is neat 16:44:50 <andythenorth> I saw a petrol station in the desert north of madrid once from the train 16:44:52 <andythenorth> at sunset 16:44:55 <andythenorth> looked very cool 16:45:03 <Terkhen> hmm... maybe "build adjacent to a road, and never overbuild a house" is enough 16:45:17 <andythenorth> I might restrict them from building too near to each other 16:45:24 <Terkhen> that makes sense too 16:47:34 <andythenorth> it's so much easier to get a set done with someone else to give opinions :P 16:47:57 <Terkhen> :) 17:09:50 <Brot6> nml: update from r1392 to r1396 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/nml/nightlies/r1396 17:13:37 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #2521: Distance checks for Petrol Pump (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2521#change-6843 17:18:09 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 2014:795f6be7e11e: Fix: template returning incorrect ret... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/795f6be7e11e 17:18:09 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 2015:94ce17747ca1: Change: refactor a few elements of de... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/94ce17747ca1 17:18:37 <Brot6> firs: update from r1999 to r2013 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/firs/nightlies/r2013 17:18:55 <Brot6> Following repos didn't need a nightlies update: 2cctrainset (r750), 32bpp-extra (r40), ai-admiralai (r75), ai-aroai (r39), ailib-common (r21), ailib-direction (r17), ailib-list (r32), ailib-string (r29), ailib-tile (r16), airportsplus (r93), basecosts (r25), belarusiantowns (r8), bros (r52), chips (r141), comic-houses (r71), fish (r653), frenchtowns (r6), german-townnames (r34), grfcodec (r830), grfpack (r279), heqs (r605), 17:18:55 <Brot6> indonesiantowns (r41), manindu (r7), metrotrackset (r56), narvs (r37), newgrf_makefile (r294), nml (r1396), nutracks (r201), ogfx-industries (r119), ogfx-landscape (r69), ogfx-rv (r107), ogfx-trains (r241), ogfx-trees (r49), opengfx (r673), openmsx (r97), opensfx (r97), smts (r19), snowlinemod (r49), spanishtowns (r10), sub-landscape (ERROR r66), sub-opengfx (ERROR r666), swedishrails (r202), swisstowns (r22), transrapidtrackset (r15), 17:18:57 <Brot6> ttdviewer (r34), ttrs (r36), worldairlinersset (r672) 17:24:26 <Brot6> sub-landscape: compile of r66 still failed (#2616) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/sub-landscape/nightlies/ERROR/r66 17:25:11 <Brot6> sub-opengfx: compile of r666 still failed (#2586) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/sub-opengfx/nightlies/ERROR/r666 17:25:56 <Brot6> Following repos rebuilds successful without any difference to earlier nightlies builds: airportsplus (Diffsize: 12), belarusiantowns (Diffsize: 30), frenchtowns, german-townnames, indonesiantowns (1 errors) (Diffsize: 1), manindu (Diffsize: 1), narvs, newgrf_makefile, ogfx-industries, ogfx-landscape (Diffsize: 21), ogfx-rv, ogfx-trains (Diffsize: 813), spanishtowns (Diffsize: 1), swedishrails (Diffsize: 385), swisstowns 17:30:32 *** bodis has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 17:50:09 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 2016:28e1534d51dc: Change: refactor handling of industry... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/28e1534d51dc 17:56:20 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #2725 (New): Brickworks CC could suck less (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2725 17:56:51 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #2725 (New): Brickworks CC could suck less (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2725 18:12:58 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 2017:df628fff40da: Change: update industries currently u... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/df628fff40da 18:15:21 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #2726 (New): Control CC for Recycling Plant, Sugar Refinery (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2726 18:24:26 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 2018:9d0a18793025: Change: improve Plastic Plant CC use ... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/9d0a18793025 18:24:26 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Code Review #2496 (Closed): CC of plastics plant (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2496#change-6847 18:36:32 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 18:39:41 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 20:23:32 *** Ruudjah has quit IRC 20:36:21 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 2019:23bddc470408: Change: framework for preventing indu... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/23bddc470408 20:52:38 <Ammler> bodis: use this channel to ask devzone related things 20:53:05 <Terkhen> bodis: if you added it to your repository, use hg rm <file> to remove it from the repo 20:53:45 <Ammler> or better rollback the commit and revert the add 20:53:52 <Ammler> (if it is the last commit) 20:56:13 <bodis> I did not do add after compiling 20:56:43 <Terkhen> if it is not added to the repository then it is fine to push 20:56:52 <bodis> ok trying 20:56:55 <Ammler> maybe you need to commit first 20:57:01 <Terkhen> yes :P 20:57:11 <bodis> I committed before compiling 20:57:13 <bodis> do another one? 20:57:35 <Ammler> bodis: good start: http://hginit.com/ 20:57:36 <Webster> Title: Hg Init: a Mercurial tutorial by Joel Spolsky (at hginit.com) 20:57:48 <Terkhen> if you did not change anything and you did not add the grf to your repository, then there is nothing to commit 20:58:21 <Ammler> bodis: what does "hg paths" say? 20:58:48 <bodis> http://hg.openttdcoop.org/lithuanian-townnames 20:58:57 <bodis> default = 20:59:36 <Ammler> bodis: add default-push = https://push.openttdcoop.org/lithuanian-townnames to your .hg/hgrc 21:00:12 <bodis> leave the other line intact? 21:00:44 <bodis> added 21:00:49 <Ammler> http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/lithuanian-townnames/repository <-- as you see here, http address has just read access 21:01:21 <Ammler> now, when you push, it should ask for your credentials 21:01:34 <bodis> and what goes there? 21:01:41 <bodis> my nickname? 21:01:41 <Ammler> where there? 21:01:49 <bodis> in credentials :) 21:01:50 <bodis> :P 21:01:52 <Ammler> DevZone username and passwords 21:02:03 <bodis> ahh 21:02:11 <bodis> ok will try now 21:02:52 <bodis> done 21:03:35 <bodis> so how do people get the grf file from there? 21:03:55 <bodis> or do they have to compile separately? 21:04:55 <Ammler> you enable modul files here: http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/lithuanian-townnames/settings/modules 21:04:58 <Ammler> and use that 21:05:39 <Ammler> or tt-forums or bananas 21:05:56 <andythenorth> or bundles server? 21:05:59 <Terkhen> they have to compile separately; you might want to upload the grf to a thread in the NewGRF releases subforum and to the online content 21:06:23 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 2020:6d84a61637b6: Feature: parameter to prevent industr... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/6d84a61637b6 21:06:23 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #2318 (Closed): Parameter to prevent industry opening dur... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2318#change-6848 21:06:24 <Ammler> andythenorth: no, that's not manually possible 21:06:42 <Ammler> I would simply use bananas :-) 21:06:48 <andythenorth> anyone want to test that new parameter? 21:07:01 <andythenorth> I don't know if it all makes sense - text description etc 21:07:14 <bodis> guys thank you for your help 21:07:31 <bodis> hopefully I will get involved in more projects :) 21:07:37 <Terkhen> andythenorth: I could test that with the log industry opening/closure diff, but not today :P 21:07:49 <andythenorth> that would be useful 21:08:01 <Terkhen> I'll make a note :) 21:08:05 <andythenorth> I have manually checked every industry to check players can't fun 21:08:25 <andythenorth> we should run that log on the bundles server permanently 21:08:41 <Terkhen> bodis: you are welcome :) 21:09:04 <Terkhen> meanwhile check that link about Mercurial that Ammler pasted, or http://hgbook.red-bean.com/hgbook.html 21:09:05 <Webster> Title: Mercurial: The Definitive Guide (at hgbook.red-bean.com) 21:10:27 <Ammler> andythenorth: best test base is made with release :-P 21:11:00 <planetmaker> Ammler: what's up with our paste.openttdcoop.org ? 21:11:23 <andythenorth> Ammler: anything would be useful 21:11:30 <andythenorth> manual testing an industry grf is insane 21:11:38 <andythenorth> really, an automated test suite would be ideal :P 21:11:44 <andythenorth> the equivalent of selenium for ttd 21:11:45 <Ammler> planetmaker: what should be with it? 21:11:51 <planetmaker> 500 21:12:20 <Ammler> just reload, that can happen from time to time as it runs on a developemnt server 21:12:23 <andythenorth> works for me 21:12:55 <planetmaker> for me it's not temporary. It's the same for 10 minutes 21:13:16 <Ammler> well, maybe it is client based, no clue :-( 21:14:02 <Ammler> if you like you can restart the paste server 21:14:40 <Terkhen> works fine for me too 21:15:25 <andythenorth> 20 FIRS commits today 21:15:25 <bodis> when you upload stufff to bananas, which gpl version to use? 21:15:29 <andythenorth> maybe I can go to bed 21:15:32 <Ammler> planetmaker: user lodgeit on devzone 21:15:42 <Ammler> killall python 21:16:04 <Ammler> /home/lodgeit/start.sh 1>/dev/null 2>&1 & 21:16:35 <planetmaker> but which VM? 21:16:44 <Terkhen> bodis: the same license you used for your newgrf at the devzone 21:16:52 <Ammler> planetmaker: paste.openttdcoop.org 21:17:23 <Ammler> [23:15] <Ammler> planetmaker: user lodgeit on devzone 21:17:32 <planetmaker> ? 21:17:37 <Ammler> dev vm 21:17:43 <Ammler> 103 21:19:05 <planetmaker> 10322 doesn't give me acces with user lodgeit on paste.... 21:19:34 <Ammler> I don't think, you added your key there :-) 21:19:59 <Ammler> login as root and su to lodgeit 21:23:18 *** andythenorth is now known as Guest4296 21:23:18 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 21:23:58 <Ammler> planetmaker: just important you switch to lodgeit before you killall :-) 21:26:01 <Ammler> I should check again, if I can deploy it with nginx 21:26:40 <andythenorth> Ammler: do you run anything like supervisord? 21:26:41 <andythenorth> http://supervisord.org/ 21:26:42 <Webster> Title: Supervisor: A Process Control System supervisor v3.0a10 documentation (at supervisord.org) 21:26:58 <Ammler> no, why? 21:27:09 <andythenorth> just wondering 21:27:13 <andythenorth> sometimes makes things easier 21:27:21 <andythenorth> depends how many processes you need to manage 21:28:34 <andythenorth> "It’s usually the case that it’s perfectly fine to allow “normal” people to stop or restart such a process, but providing them with shell access is often impractical" 21:31:45 * andythenorth -> bed 21:31:48 <andythenorth> good night 21:31:52 *** andythenorth has left #openttdcoop.devzone 21:33:28 <Ammler> well, I trust pm 21:33:40 <Ammler> or rahter I don't need to trust him 21:33:45 <Ammler> as he is owner too 21:44:35 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 2021:d46bc389d819: Change: adjust probability of Lime Ki... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/d46bc389d819 21:44:35 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Bug #2575 (Closed): Why so many lime kilns <1900 ? (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2575#change-6850 21:58:41 *** ODM has quit IRC 22:20:23 *** Lakie has quit IRC 23:12:46 *** bodis has quit IRC 23:40:17 *** frosch123 has quit IRC