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Log for #openttdcoop.devzone on 4th August 2011:
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14:41:29  <Brot6> DictatorAI - Revision 124:65f595118dd1: - Change aircraft orders to AIOF_NONE (krinn) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/ai-dictator/repository/revisions/65f595118dd1
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17:10:16  <Brot6> nml: update from r1564 to r1567 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/nml/nightlies/r1567
17:18:53  <Brot6> OpenGFX - Bug #2925 (New): DevZone compile failed (compiler) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2925
17:20:00  <Brot6> Following repos didn't need a nightlies update: ogfx-trains (r245), narvs (r37), bros (r52), ogfx-industries (r122), firs (r2233), ailib-tile (r16), foobarstramtracks (r23), transrapidtrackset (r28), 2cctrainset (r750), cets (r114), ailib-list (r32), opensfx (r97), ttdviewer (r34), worldairlinersset (r672), heqs (r611), openmsx (r97), basecosts (r25), nutracks (r202), nml (r1567), 32bpp-extra (r40), manindu (r7), newgrf_makefile (r305),
17:20:00  <Brot6> ailib-direction (r17), ailib-common (r21), snowlinemod (r49), dutchtramset (r87), ai-admiralai (r75), swisstowns (r22), metrotrackset (r56), spanishtowns (r10), frenchtowns (r6), grfpack (r279), ogfx-rv (r107), fish (r683), ogfx-landscape (r71), ttrs (r36), ogfx-trees (r51), swedishrails (r203), grfcodec (r832), ai-aroai (r39), german-townnames (r34), smts (r19), chips (r143), belarusiantowns (r8), indonesiantowns (r41), ailib-string
17:20:02  <Brot6> (r29), airportsplus (r107), comic-houses (r71)
17:21:41  <Brot6> narvs: compile of r37 still failed (#2789) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/narvs/nightlies/ERROR/r37
17:43:25  <Brot6> Indonesian Town Names - Bug #2926 (New): DevZone compile failed (compiler) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2926
17:44:01  <Brot6> Following repos rebuilds successful without any difference to earlier nightlies builds: ogfx-trains (Diffsize: 2319), ogfx-industries, firs (37 warnings), foobarstramtracks, cets (436 warnings), manindu (Diffsize: 2), newgrf_makefile, dutchtramset, swisstowns, spanishtowns (Diffsize: 2), frenchtowns, ogfx-rv (Diffsize: 4775), ogfx-landscape (Diffsize: 471), swedishrails (50 warnings) (Diffsize: 392), german-townnames (Diffsize: 1),
17:44:01  <Brot6> belarusiantowns (Diffsize: 30), airportsplus (2 warnings) (Diffsize: 30186)
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18:31:23  <Brot6> Central European Train Set - Revision 115:33e22c52f1c1: Added German livery template (oberhuemer) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/cets/repository/revisions/33e22c52f1c1
18:31:24  <Brot6> Central European Train Set - Revision 116:e9236f2e39fa: merged everything - I don't have "rebase" (oberhuemer) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/cets/repository/revisions/e9236f2e39fa
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19:05:13  <Brot6> clientpatches: update from r22712 to r22717 done (6 warnings) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/clientpatches/testing/r22717
19:10:04  <Brot6> openttd-vehiclevars: update from r22712 to r22717 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/openttd-vehiclevars/testing/r22717
19:14:37  <Brot6> serverpatches: update from r22712 to r22717 done (10 warnings) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/serverpatches/testing/r22717
19:16:48  <Brot6> 32bpp-ez-patches: compile of r22717 still failed (#2446) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/32bpp-ez-patches/testing/ERROR/r22717
19:24:21  <Brot6> OpenGFX - Bug #781: farm hedges not properly aligned (foobar) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/781#change-7282
19:28:03  <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Revision 1568:26c49d6c204c: Add: Vehicle property 'cargo_age_period'. (Hirundo) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/nml/repository/revisions/26c49d6c204c
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19:30:11  <Brot6> OpenGFX - Bug #2925 (Closed): DevZone compile failed (compiler) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2925
19:30:11  <Brot6> OpenGFX - Bug #2925 (Closed): DevZone compile failed (foobar) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2925#change-7283
19:30:11  <Brot6> OpenGFX - Revision 693:d6727a3a6efd: Fix #2925: (hopefully); file missing (foobar) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/opengfx/repository/revisions/d6727a3a6efd
19:31:13  <Brot6> opengfx: update from r684 to r693 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/opengfx/nightlies/r693
19:36:45  <Brot6> Central European Train Set - Feature #2924: Prussian steam engines - sprites (oberhuemer) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2924#change-7285
19:40:05  <Brot6> Central European Train Set - Feature #2884: passenger wagons (oberhuemer) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2884#change-7286
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19:48:21  <Brot6> Swedish Rails - Revision 204:77c1713726ae: Codechange: Remove spritegroups, since these are now o... (Hirundo) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/swedishrails/repository/revisions/77c1713726ae
19:50:57  <Brot6> Central European Train Set - Feature #2763: track classes / railtype support (oberhuemer) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2763#change-7287
19:53:31  <Brot6> Central European Train Set - Feature #2763: track classes / railtype support (oberhuemer) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2763#change-7287
19:56:32  <Brot6> Central European Train Set - Support #2919: Livery/color standards (oberhuemer) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2919#change-7288
19:57:25  <Brot6> Central European Train Set - Support #2919 (Closed): Livery/color standards (oberhuemer) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2919#change-7289
19:58:32  <Brot6> Dutch Train Set - Bug #2927 (New): Train alignment (foobar) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2927
20:00:05  <Brot6> Dutch Train Set - Bug #2928 (New): Trains change livery on track (foobar) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2928
20:02:03  <Brot6> Dutch Train Set - Bug #373 (Closed): Plan U - Dont retain its concist when turns around (foobar) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/373#change-7290
20:04:45  <Brot6> Central European Train Set - Support #2919: Livery/color standards (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2919#change-7302
20:12:03  <Brot6> Central European Train Set - Feature #2763: track classes / railtype support (Eddi) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2763#change-7303
20:12:55  <Brot6> Central European Train Set - Feature #2763: track classes / railtype support (Eddi) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2763#change-7303
20:24:29  <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Revision 1569:56e11b44c594: Doc: Mention examples in documentation. (Hirundo) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/nml/repository/revisions/56e11b44c594
20:42:03  <Brot6> repository /home/hg/ce-tracks registered in Redmine with url /home/hg/ce-tracks
20:42:03  <Brot6> repository /home/hg/ce-tracks created
20:43:34  <Brot6> Central European Railway Track Set - Revision 1:80b2c1370aee: Add: railtype template and three du... (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/ce-tracks/repository/revisions/80b2c1370aee
20:49:37  <Brot6> Central European Railway Track Set - Revision 2:0320e8e6afa9: Add: hgignore (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/ce-tracks/repository/revisions/0320e8e6afa9
21:09:19  <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Revision 1570:531ec43cd770: Doc: Some small additions/fixes to the vehicle... (Hirundo) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/nml/repository/revisions/531ec43cd770
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21:27:59  <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Revision 1571:6c5692457354: Doc: What vehicle variables are available in t... (Hirundo) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/nml/repository/revisions/6c5692457354
21:30:33  <Brot6> Central European Train Set - Feature #2924: Prussian steam engines - sprites (oberhuemer) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2924#change-7304
22:05:31  <michi_cc> planetmaker: I was thinking about low axle-weight track graphics and though of increased sleeper spacing, but http://www.icosahedron.de/openttd/patches/track_test.png doesn't really look good IMHO (and thanks to the fixed pixel grid anything in between won't really match up at the end of each tile).
22:07:16  <planetmaker> hm... yes, that can use improvement, I guess
22:07:38  <planetmaker> though I like the idea in principle
22:08:02  <planetmaker> it looks imho too wide-spaced
22:09:06  <planetmaker> mostly my current aim is to actually get some kind of test tracks for our trainset
22:09:22  <planetmaker> currently the three railtypes all look like swedishrails ;-)
22:10:38  <michi_cc> I know that it looks too wide-spaced, but you just can't divide 16 evenly by 3, only by 2 (which is the default rail spacing) or 4 (which is what I tried).
22:11:01  <planetmaker> what do you, btw, think of the idea to introduce fallback railtypes in the sense that a railtype can define that it can act as fallback for railtypes x,y and z
22:11:18  <planetmaker> yeah, I know :-(
22:18:19  <michi_cc> Smells very much like a hack, but does make sense from a compatibility pov
22:24:28  <planetmaker> I'm not even sure it's a hack. As vehicle newgrf author I cannot know which tracks will be available
22:24:49  <planetmaker> thus I define the appropriate one. And then the track set can sort it out :-)
22:50:16  <Brot6> Central European Train Set - Feature #2763: track classes / railtype support (michi_cc) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2763#change-7305
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23:04:43  <Brot6> Central European Train Set - Feature #2763: track classes / railtype support (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2763#change-7306
23:05:58  <Brot6> Central European Train Set - Feature #2763: track classes / railtype support (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2763#change-7306
23:08:35  <michi_cc> planetmaker: http://www.icosahedron.de/openttd/patches/alternate_label.patch
23:08:59  <michi_cc> planetmaker: Needs testing and a glance by a newgrf expert :)
23:10:07  <planetmaker> as I told Eddi already: I think 'alternate' is not the best description as "fallback for" fits its behaviour better
23:10:48  <planetmaker> though the problem is indeed with the vehicle queries... they get the info "available"
23:10:56  <planetmaker> but, I guess, that's ok
23:11:59  <planetmaker> do I understand it correctly: up to 4 alternate? or how does SmallVector work?
23:12:11  <michi_cc> No, that's just the allocation step
23:14:42  <planetmaker> so far allow_alternate would be always true?
23:15:00  <Brot6> Central European Train Set - Feature #2763: track classes / railtype support (michi_cc) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2763#change-7307
23:15:12  <michi_cc> Nope, check the second hunk of the patch.
23:17:31  <planetmaker> aye, missed that hunk
23:18:04  <michi_cc> Hmm, I think it could actually be removed and the alternate check always done, the alternate list isn't filled in the reservation step so it wouldn't matter (unless the built-in railtypes get alternate names :)
23:19:34  <planetmaker> hm... that *might* even be an idea... if there's no track type for a vehicle fall back to default tracks. But probably that's more ugly than nice
23:20:01  <michi_cc> http://www.icosahedron.de/openttd/patches/alternate_label2.patch
23:21:10  <planetmaker> hm... can I - independent of this patch - disable a railtype?
23:21:14  <michi_cc> That's not a good idea, some newgrf might want to hide a vehicle if the rail type isn't defined. The author can always include a fallback to RAIL in his translation table as te label is fixed.
23:21:27  <planetmaker> yes
23:21:53  <michi_cc> Disable in what sense? A NewGRF can't disable a label defined in a different NewGRF AFAIK.
23:22:37  <planetmaker> disable default railtypes like I disable default vehicles
23:23:53  <michi_cc> Not that I know
23:26:18  <planetmaker> that's something we want for this track set...
23:26:34  <planetmaker> currently it has the default rails between the newly supplied ones
23:26:49  <planetmaker> I thought I missed the obvious thing
23:27:05  <planetmaker> hm... maybe ID
23:34:25  <michi_cc> http://www.icosahedron.de/openttd/patches/track_test2.png Upper tracks, enough difference? No idea how to replicate that for vertical/horizontal though.
23:34:38  <planetmaker> I'll have to look at nutracks... it did define more...
23:35:29  <planetmaker> they look different enough when compared this way, yes
23:35:46  <planetmaker> in what form do you have the sprites?
23:36:24  <planetmaker> it still will be hard to tell what it is when one doesn't have the direct comparison
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23:39:43  <michi_cc> I have the sprite (no s :) pasted over the swedish rails graphics
23:47:05  <planetmaker> :-)
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23:49:54  <planetmaker> good night for now :-)

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