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00:53:07 <Brot6> Total Town Replacement Set - Bug #3458 (New): Not all default buildings disabled by parameter (PaulC) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3458 02:38:18 *** Zuu has quit IRC 06:22:38 *** MinchinWeb has quit IRC 06:28:54 *** JVassie has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 07:22:57 *** JVassie has quit IRC 08:52:00 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 10:29:17 <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Feature #3459 (New): Railtype, feature 0x1D (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3459 10:38:31 *** Zuu has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 10:48:28 <planetmaker> Yexo: ^ name the property "alternative_railtype_for" ? 10:48:55 <Yexo> I thought about "alternative_railtype_labels" 10:49:27 <planetmaker> that does not imply the direction of the implication 10:49:45 <Yexo> but there isn't none 10:50:02 <Yexo> for all intends and purposes you can replace the main label with one of the alternative ones and everything would work the same 10:50:20 <Yexo> with as big exception "confliction" other railtype newgrfs 10:50:28 <Yexo> but a vehicle newgrf wouldn't notice any difference 10:50:57 <planetmaker> true 10:51:05 <planetmaker> just 'alternative_labels'? 10:51:19 <Yexo> that would imo be fine 10:51:27 <Yexo> but I have to go now 10:51:36 <Yexo> will be back later this afternoon 10:52:06 <planetmaker> ok, enjoy 10:56:32 <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Feature #3459: Railtype, feature 0x1D (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3459#change-9043 11:03:21 <Hirundo> planetmaker: looks ok to me 11:11:40 <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Revision 1785:56d7781ece7a: Add #3459: Alternative railtype label list (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/nml/repository/revisions/56d7781ece7a 11:12:22 <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Feature #3459 (Closed): Railtype, feature 0x1D (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3459 11:12:22 <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Feature #3459 (Closed): Railtype, feature 0x1D (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3459#change-9044 11:29:56 <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Support #2850: PyPI - the Python Package Index (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2850#change-9045 11:33:19 <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Code Review #3460 (New): Always use DOS palette (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3460 11:56:28 <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Support #2850: PyPI - the Python Package Index (Ammler) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2850#change-9046 12:12:49 *** welshdragon has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 12:28:49 *** frosch123 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 12:42:40 *** welshdragon has quit IRC 14:54:41 <Brot6> Central European Train Set - Revision 462:b9a46b7848e2: more elaborate lifetime calculation, taki... (Eddi) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/cets/repository/revisions/b9a46b7848e2 14:54:42 <Brot6> Central European Train Set - Revision 463:5702b05b1a0c: misc value updates (Eddi) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/cets/repository/revisions/5702b05b1a0c 14:58:30 <Brot6> Central European Train Set - Bug #3461 (New): DevZone compile failed (compiler) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3461 15:04:38 <Brot6> Central European Train Set - Revision 464:9dd6f4fc72ac: apply some sort of comments (Eddi) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/cets/repository/revisions/9dd6f4fc72ac 15:07:23 <Brot6> cets: compile of r464 still failed (#3461) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/cets/push/ERROR/r464 16:09:43 <Brot6> Total Town Replacement Set - Bug #3462 (New): Tall buildings flicker above certain height levels (PaulC) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3462 16:41:41 <Brot6> Central European Train Set - Revision 465:bb3c66566018: fix last built calculation (Eddi) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/cets/repository/revisions/bb3c66566018 16:53:45 <Brot6> cets: update from r461 to r465 done (534 warnings) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/cets/push/r465 17:00:18 *** Zuu has quit IRC 17:17:28 <Brot6> grfcodec: update from r854 to r856 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/grfcodec/nightlies/r856 17:27:14 <Brot6> nml: update from r1784 to r1785 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/nml/nightlies/r1785 17:57:46 *** welshdragon has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 18:03:32 <planetmaker> Yexo: that e-mail at least arrives in my e-mail box 18:03:53 <Yexo> I haven't received it yet 18:14:18 <Brot6> Dutch Trains 2.0 - Feature #3463 (New): NS 2900 (Voyager1) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3463 18:15:34 <Hirundo> Yexo: I have received your e-mail 18:16:47 <planetmaker> according to our config, your openttd address should receive those e-mails, too, Yexo 18:16:51 <Yexo> so everyone gets it except me 18:17:17 <planetmaker> the mail server got a 550 from the openttd mail server 18:17:45 <planetmaker> or so it seems... 18:19:13 <^Spike^> 550 5.7.1 SPF fail: see http://openspf.org/why.html?sender=yexo@<yep-stripped>&ip=<stripped> (in reply to RCPT TO command) 18:19:14 <^Spike^> that 18:20:24 <Yexo> depending on how your server forwarded the message, that seems a valid response 18:20:46 <^Spike^> 550 isn't valid for me... :D 18:20:51 <^Spike^> tells me it's denied!!! :D 18:21:02 <Yexo> I send mail from yexo@openttd.org, so if the openttdcoop server tried to send the mail with "From: yexo@openttd.org" it's logical openttd.org refused it 18:21:12 <^Spike^> ah 18:21:14 <Yexo> after all, openttdcoop.org shouldn't send emails from *@openttd.org addresses 18:21:28 <^Spike^> well... how did you send our mail? :) 18:21:51 <Yexo> what do you mean? 18:22:05 * ^Spike^ was still reading page since the url ottd.org server was invalid 18:26:07 <Ammler> yes, it looks like it does not change the header sender 18:26:58 <Ammler> Hirundo: or planetmaker, who is the sender in the mail? 18:27:25 <Ammler> Yexo: not quite sure, what is right 18:27:47 <^Spike^> Yexo himself is the sender 18:27:57 <Ammler> what I know is that your mailserver doesn't filter the wrong mails the first time ;-) 18:28:19 <Hirundo> Ammler: It was sent from yexo@openttd.org to nml-team@openttdcoop.org 18:28:29 <Ammler> ok 18:28:29 <Yexo> Ammler: from openttd.org's point of view openttdcoop is trying to send a mail from a *@openttd.org address, I'd argue that is wrong 18:28:39 <Ammler> Yexo: no 18:28:45 <Ammler> it is just forwarding your mail 18:28:52 <Ammler> it does not "repack" it 18:28:52 <^Spike^> well then gmail also would say it's wrong 18:29:11 <Ammler> Yexo: I guess, our mailfilter does check the wrong field 18:29:18 <Yexo> Ammler: how is that any different? can openttd.org tell you're "only forwarding"? 18:29:53 <Yexo> it could be a bug at openttd.org's site, I don't know. If you think so please speak to TrueBrain 18:30:03 <^Spike^> it could be mailfiltering.nl which blocks it 18:30:07 <^Spike^> cause that mx replies 18:30:11 <Ammler> Yexo: I am not sure too :-) 18:30:34 <Ammler> ^Spike^: that is the silly filter openttd.org uses 18:32:52 <Ammler> Yexo: the issue is you have no clue how many mails you do not get because of that "uncommon" filter 18:33:12 <Ammler> just mails the sender can check the logs 18:33:35 <michi_cc> Ammler: The "proper" solution (at least in some people's eyes) is to always use SRS when forwarding mail. 18:34:00 <Yexo> let's take it to #openttd since TB is not here 18:34:09 <Ammler> hmm, true 18:34:17 <Ammler> michi_cc: what is SRS? 18:34:22 <planetmaker> Ammler: the mail I got was from y3xo's openttd address 18:34:31 <Ammler> planetmaker: which is good 18:34:32 <michi_cc> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sender_Rewriting_Scheme 18:34:33 <Webster> Title: Sender Rewriting Scheme - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at en.wikipedia.org) 18:34:54 <Ammler> planetmaker: what matters i the sender, the question is if we can change that 18:35:15 <Ammler> the sender you do see in the header only 18:35:17 <michi_cc> http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sender_Rewriting_Scheme is probably the bettter article. 18:35:18 <Webster> Title: Sender Rewriting Scheme – Wikipedia (at de.wikipedia.org) 18:35:29 <Ammler> ^Spike^: can we do this? 18:36:46 <^Spike^> checking 18:37:55 <Ammler> michi_cc: but the important part is that errors would then go to our server instead the sender 18:55:04 <Brot6> Dutch Road Furniture - Bug #3464 (New): Signs and curves (oberhuemer) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3464 19:08:14 *** JVassie has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 19:15:19 <Brot6> DACH Trains - Feature #3414: New Vehicles (Swissfan91) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3414#change-9047 19:18:53 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 19:23:58 <Brot6> DACH Trains - Bug #3465 (New): Edit of included vehicles (Yoshi) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3465 19:49:28 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 19:50:27 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 22:10:48 *** andythenorth is now known as Guest22884 22:10:49 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 22:16:38 *** Guest22884 has quit IRC 22:40:52 *** andythenorth is now known as Guest22887 22:40:52 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 22:41:12 *** Guest22887 has quit IRC 22:42:23 <Brot6> BANDIT - Revision 53:7037c19c6920: Change: add some more trucks (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/bandit/repository/revisions/7037c19c6920 22:45:42 *** welshdragon has quit IRC 22:48:14 *** welshdragon has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 22:59:16 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 23:08:55 *** ODM has quit IRC 23:34:35 <Ammler> Yexo: until we fix the issue, can we add another email address to nml? 23:35:05 <Brot6> DACH Trains - Feature #3414: New Vehicles (Swissfan91) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3414#change-9048 23:36:20 <Yexo> it's not that important as long as both pm and Hirund0 receive the emails 23:38:38 <^Spike^> i think you still receive the mails on ottd.org address as long as there is no ottd.org in the from field :) 23:39:18 <Yexo> ^Spike^: I don't think so 23:39:25 <Yexo> but feel free to send a message to test it 23:39:55 <Yexo> actually I should do that myself :) 23:40:46 <^Spike^> someone changed it to a gmail address already... :) 23:40:50 * ^Spike^ looks at Ammler :) 23:41:23 <Yexo> yes, I got your message now 23:41:33 <Ammler> no, it's your mesage :-P 23:41:43 <Ammler> that's the point :-D 23:42:05 <Yexo> I got the message ^Spike^ send but not the mail I send myself (from my gmail address) 23:42:33 <^Spike^> well... let me guess that is t.mar..... :) 23:42:39 <Yexo> yes 23:42:39 <^Spike^> someone changed that value in the alias :) 23:42:40 <Ammler> that might need the greylist time 23:42:58 *** Zuu has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 23:43:00 <Yexo> possible, or gmail might block it because you're not supposed to be sending messages from @gmail.com 23:43:16 <^Spike^> there it might be you get the same mail twice from your test :) 23:43:26 <^Spike^> your message is greylisted Yexo :) 23:43:40 <Ammler> Yexo: that is only valid with openttd.org address 23:43:58 <Ammler> because openttd.org has a spf record with -all 23:43:59 <^Spike^> Jan 6 23:43:49 mx1 postfix/smtp[18532]: A0F66C2A028: to=<yexo@openttd.org>, relay=mx1.mailfiltering.nl[178.19.113.81]:25, delay=1.1, delays=0.41/0.03/0.58/0.08, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (250 2.0.0 Ok: queued as AA518C03A08) 23:44:04 <^Spike^> send without a problem this time 23:44:14 <^Spike^> cause the from field is not from ottd.org 23:44:30 <^Spike^> that was the problem when you send it yourself from ottd.org to that alias 23:44:49 <Ammler> openttdcoop.org has ~all 23:44:58 <Ammler> gmail none 23:45:56 <Yexo> ^Spike^: got your second test email, still not my own 23:46:22 <Brot6> Total Town Replacement Set - Bug #3096: Provide ECS Houses support (PaulC) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3096#change-9049 23:46:59 <Ammler> Yexo: apike already said, it is greylisted 23:47:04 <Ammler> dunno how long that needs 23:47:21 <Yexo> I'll see tomorrow whether they've arrived 23:47:25 <Ammler> :-) 23:47:27 <Yexo> good night, thanks for looking into this ;) 23:47:34 <Ammler> if not, I own you beer :-P 23:47:54 <planetmaker> g'night Yexo 23:49:35 <Ammler> spike, it should not matter, what is in the from 23:49:39 <Ammler> (I hope) 23:51:19 <^Spike^> it does for the ottd.org server 23:51:36 <^Spike^> if it is a local ottd.org address it doesnt accept it cause it doesn't come from the ottd.org server 23:53:01 <^Spike^> but i'm of to bed aswell and Yexo your mail has arrived :) 23:57:06 <Ammler> but your test was never a issue 23:57:23 <Ammler> the issue was when he sent from openttd.org