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06:18:08 *** zooks has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 06:59:47 *** zooks has quit IRC 07:41:53 <juzza1> are there gimp users here? how can i precisely adjust the size of the pencil tool? 07:42:21 <juzza1> for example: i select the pencil, use "1. Pixel" brush for it, and set its size to 1.00. it creates a 1x1 square as expected 07:42:49 <juzza1> when i set the size to 2.00-4.00, size is suddenly 3x3 07:49:56 <V453000> lol 07:54:12 <planetmaker> eh? juzza1 you use the 'n' shortcut or 'p' shortcut tool? 07:54:29 <planetmaker> I suggest to use 'n'. Then in the tool settings you can exactly adjust it (if you chose square pencil) 07:57:15 <juzza1> well, i cannot. everything between size 1.00-2.00 results in a 1x1 pencil, and 2.00-4.00 results in a 3x3 pencil 07:57:21 <juzza1> makes no sense to me 07:58:24 <juzza1> when i say size, i mean the number in the "tool options" dialog, and "1x1" means the actual size what im seeing when drawing 08:05:26 <juzza1> like so https://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/5490/thef.png 08:05:52 <juzza1> i am hovering a size 2.00 pencil on top of some 1px lines 08:06:11 <juzza1> and it's 3x3 in size 08:06:59 <planetmaker> press 'n' 08:07:14 <planetmaker> then open the tool settings, for a window like http://imagebin.org/272703 08:07:15 <Webster> Title: Imagebin - A place to slap up your images. (at imagebin.org) 08:07:39 <planetmaker> sorry mine is in German. the numbers are opacity, size, aspect ratio and angle 08:07:44 <planetmaker> from top to bottom 08:08:08 <planetmaker> my size is set to 20. With a shape set to clipboard. Mind to NOT choose clipboard, but a square size 08:08:38 <juzza1> in that picture, the pencil is selected 08:08:43 <juzza1> shortcut n = pencil 08:09:19 <planetmaker> with the pencil tool you also cannot select sub-positions, it's always set to pixel borders, right? 08:13:26 <juzza1> what are sub-positions in this context? 08:16:45 <juzza1> if you set your pencil size to "2.00" and draw something with it, is it exactly 2x2 pixels? 08:26:29 <juzza1> well, turns out that brush was actually a 3x3 brush. it works now that i saved a 1x1 sized black image as a new brush 09:03:22 <dihedral> planetmaker: 09:03:24 <dihedral> # hg push 09:03:24 <dihedral> pushing to https://push.openttdcoop.org/joan 09:03:24 <dihedral> abort: HTTP Error 504: Gateway Time-out 09:07:29 *** oskari89 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 09:09:28 <DevZone> Project xussrset - Trains from Russia build #48-push: SUCCESS in 2 min 54 sec: https://jenkins.openttdcoop.org/job/xussrset/48/ 09:56:37 *** oskari89 has quit IRC 10:22:11 *** zooks has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 10:30:35 *** zooks has quit IRC 10:34:35 <George> Is TRIGGER_VEHICLE_SERVICE has sence in random_switch for wagons? 10:34:57 <George> do wagons trigger service? 10:48:20 <George> http://bugs.openttd.org/task/5777 10:56:02 <V453000> why should wagons randomize during service? :d shouldnt they still be the same wagon before as after service? 10:56:06 <V453000> realistically speaking 10:56:23 <George> yes, they should 10:56:37 <V453000> then why change something 10:57:14 <V453000> what does independent thing do? 10:57:21 <V453000> isnt random switch automatically independent? 10:58:37 <George> change should happen because of this http://bugs.openttd.org/task/5550 10:58:57 <George> see r25604 10:59:44 <V453000> hm :) 11:05:51 <dihedral> planetmaker, what is wrong with push.openttdcoop.org? 11:11:14 <planetmaker> dihedral, hgweb / gunicorn is acting up 11:12:03 <planetmaker> dihedral, it basically very quickly comes in a state that gunicorn is at its cpu limit. However many you assign to it 11:12:26 <planetmaker> there's some solution to it. As it worked before. But I don't know yet which :-) 11:22:03 <dihedral> meaning i cannot push to the server until fixed? 11:22:38 *** zooks has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 11:24:00 <planetmaker> via http(s) you likely run into 504. 11:24:05 <planetmaker> need ssh? 11:24:30 <planetmaker> people can actually *pull* everything via rhodecode.o.o/projectname 11:29:52 <dihedral> push via rhodecode is not possible? 11:31:17 *** Supercheese has quit IRC 11:31:34 <dihedral> "we forgot the crackers, grommit" :-P 11:31:49 *** Supercheese has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 11:32:03 <planetmaker> push via rhodecode is at least currently not possible 11:32:29 <planetmaker> it probably could be tweaked somehow, but that would need investigation, too :-) 11:32:50 <planetmaker> (yes, I find this situation quite... sucky) 11:33:30 <dihedral> aye 11:33:46 <dihedral> rhodecode - is that run on 3rd party servers? 11:33:53 <planetmaker> no, same server 11:34:13 <planetmaker> even same VM 11:34:41 <dihedral> https://rhodecode.com/ 11:34:42 <Webster> Title: RhodeCode Home (at rhodecode.com) 11:34:52 <dihedral> moving completely to rhodecode, away from redmine? 11:34:59 <planetmaker> no, I don't want that 11:35:29 <dihedral> why? 11:35:41 <planetmaker> well. why change away from redmine? 11:35:49 <planetmaker> it's not redmine which is the problem. It's hgweb 11:36:02 <planetmaker> browsing repos via redmine is also no issue 11:37:30 <planetmaker> and redmine a) integrates with jenkins b) with web translator c) has all our issues and users registered to currently, thus would need complete conversion of issues, users and user groups and enclosed documents and wikis 11:38:33 <planetmaker> it's a lot of work to migrate away from it for little gain 11:38:43 <planetmaker> if any gain at all 11:41:23 <dihedral> stability, and less fail prune is a very little gain, i agree with that :-P 11:41:28 <planetmaker> it's really not that I haven't considered it or rule it out. But it really has to be considered carefully 11:41:43 <planetmaker> dihedral, the current issue is NOT related to redmine at all 11:42:00 <planetmaker> the thing acting up, is not redmine. hgweb runs separately 11:42:06 <planetmaker> it's its own thing 11:42:59 <planetmaker> it could be totally different VMs 11:43:08 <planetmaker> (it isn't, but that isn't the point) 11:44:20 <planetmaker> hgweb only uses redmine's database to assess whether s/o is allowed to push 11:44:30 <planetmaker> via its redmine plugin 11:46:38 <planetmaker> dihedral, generally I'm not opposed to a change. But that will need very thorough preparation 11:46:56 <planetmaker> and lots of test beforehand 11:49:06 <planetmaker> jira might be an alternative. I might even try setup that at some stage... But this is more urgent... and not exactly solved by any other project management system quickly either 11:49:50 <planetmaker> rhodecode is actually also nice. At least in some aspects it's definitely superior to redmine 11:49:57 <planetmaker> especially wrt easily forking projects etc 11:50:27 <planetmaker> but for rhodecode, to get the latest version, we'd need to apply for a license similarily to bamboo/jira, too 11:50:40 <planetmaker> it's not exactly open source anymore 11:51:13 <planetmaker> and available connectors to other stuff are not that plentyful (yet) 12:00:55 <dihedral> planetmaker, how is hgweb running currently? 12:03:27 <dihedral> i.e. cgi or standalone? 12:05:23 <planetmaker> cgi iirc. ^Spike^ configured the details 12:07:08 <planetmaker> on an nginx 13:09:38 <dihedral> planetmaker, can you set me up with ssh then please? 13:50:52 *** zooks has quit IRC 13:53:03 *** oskari89 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 14:54:51 <planetmaker> done, dihedral 14:59:40 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 15:06:03 *** oskari89 has quit IRC 15:33:22 *** Alberth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 15:40:02 *** KenjiE20 has quit IRC 16:47:35 <DevZone> Project OpenGFX build #51: STILL FAILING in 0.23 sec: https://jenkins.openttdcoop.org/job/opengfx/51/ 16:50:26 <DevZone> Project xussrset - Trains from Russia build #49-push: SUCCESS in 3 min 4 sec: https://jenkins.openttdcoop.org/job/xussrset/49/ 16:56:44 *** oskari89 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 17:19:11 <DevZone> Project NML - NewGRF Meta Language build #72-nightlies: SUCCESS in 1 min 9 sec: https://jenkins.openttdcoop.org/job/nml/72/ 17:31:40 *** frosch123 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 17:35:17 <Alberth> o/ 18:05:02 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 18:05:20 <Alberth> \o 18:15:20 <frosch123> hello albert :) 18:56:39 <Alberth> hmm, someome added an empty translation file. Should eints do something special for such empty translations? 18:58:02 <DevZone> Project OpenGFX build #52: STILL FAILING in 0.12 sec: https://jenkins.openttdcoop.org/job/opengfx/52/ 18:58:34 <Supercheese> :| 19:01:54 <DevZone> Project OpenGFX build #53: STILL FAILING in 0.26 sec: https://jenkins.openttdcoop.org/job/opengfx/53/ 19:03:52 <planetmaker> hmpf 19:28:45 <frosch123> Alberth: what could it do? 19:28:58 <frosch123> i wondered about the same thing on download 19:29:17 <frosch123> currently if a translator starts a new translation, but does not actually translate anything 19:29:20 <frosch123> it commits an empty file 19:29:29 <frosch123> lang_sync could skip creating emtpy files 19:29:36 <frosch123> but, not exactly important either 19:35:22 <planetmaker> ^ yes, I think we should not worry about that 19:41:30 <Alberth> yeah, if skipping that, why not skip with 1 string translated, etc. 19:41:52 <Alberth> so it would then boil down to "omit translations less than X % or so" 19:42:10 <Alberth> but whether that is nice is another matter 19:44:52 <planetmaker> skipping to commit a single string would be annoying :-) 19:45:05 <planetmaker> If I'm translator, I'm looking forward to see how it looks ingame :-) 19:46:47 <Alberth> too bad you cannot push your changes :) 19:47:00 <planetmaker> as translator? 19:47:07 * Alberth nods 19:47:33 <planetmaker> ah, well, yes.... But only very minor issue :-) 19:48:42 <Supercheese> someone still needs to do the en_GB for Fake Subways 19:48:50 <Alberth> we could add that minimal % to the config, but most likely it will stay at 0% :) 19:48:57 <Supercheese> I could theorize what terms would be more British than American, but I'm hardly the guy for the job there... 19:49:18 <Supercheese> I should poke the translator fellow 19:50:17 <planetmaker> Alberth, what one *could* consider is something like: 19:51:00 <planetmaker> commit, if n_new_strings > 0 and time_lapsed_since_last_string_change > t_commit 19:51:12 <planetmaker> where t_commit is configurable and, maybe 15 minutes or so 19:51:46 <Alberth> sort of continuous build 19:51:55 <planetmaker> sort-of yes 19:52:25 <Supercheese> -___- 19:52:33 <Supercheese> 502 bad gateway ate my post 19:52:50 <planetmaker> which post? 19:52:55 <Supercheese> New Issue 19:53:03 <^Spike^> prob hgweb 19:53:04 <planetmaker> what, that's affected, too? :S 19:53:06 <Supercheese> well 19:53:10 <Supercheese> the entire issue tracker is down 19:53:16 <Supercheese> that'd do it 19:53:21 <^Spike^> hmmm 19:53:26 <Supercheese> oh 19:53:31 <^Spike^> oh i know alreayd 19:53:33 <Supercheese> the entire devzone is 502-ing now 19:53:36 <^Spike^> pm i'm working on it 19:53:43 <planetmaker> ^ :-) 19:53:46 <^Spike^> i needed to remount /home/hg which needed me to kill ngix etc etc 19:53:52 <^Spike^> you know 1 leads to another 19:54:17 <Taede> dominoes! 19:54:32 <planetmaker> sorry, Supercheese, truely sorry :-( 19:54:41 <Supercheese> eh, was only two sentences 19:55:11 <Supercheese> not the biggest loss, but odd that Firefox didn't save my text when hitting back... 19:55:28 <^Spike^> lazarus 19:55:29 <^Spike^> ;) 19:55:33 <^Spike^> good firefox plugin 19:55:39 <^Spike^> saved my life @ work several times :D 19:55:47 <Supercheese> vanilla fox has had an excellent track record thus far 19:56:01 <Supercheese> but it failed this time, not sure why 19:56:23 <^Spike^> :) 19:56:28 <^Spike^> maybe cause it's a field ;) 19:56:39 <planetmaker> yup, it usually doesn't fail with that neither ^ 19:58:44 <^Spike^> can someone try to push/pull again? 19:59:53 * planetmaker tries 20:07:16 <planetmaker> Abbruch: HTTP Error 504: Gateway Time-out 20:20:35 <DevZone> Project xussrset - Trains from Russia build #50-push: SUCCESS in 13 min: https://jenkins.openttdcoop.org/job/xussrset/50/ 20:38:11 *** KenjiE20 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 20:45:25 *** ODM has quit IRC 21:26:48 *** Alberth has left #openttdcoop.devzone 21:36:30 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 21:39:10 *** oskari89 has quit IRC 21:49:06 <DevZone> Yippie, build fixed! 21:49:06 <DevZone> Project Iron Horse build #271-push: FIXED in 40 sec: https://jenkins.openttdcoop.org/job/iron-horse/271/ 21:54:48 <DevZone> Project Iron Horse build #272-push: SUCCESS in 41 sec: https://jenkins.openttdcoop.org/job/iron-horse/272/ 21:58:57 <DevZone> Yippie, build fixed! 21:58:57 <DevZone> Project ISR Industrial Station Renewal build #35-push: FIXED in 19 sec: https://jenkins.openttdcoop.org/job/isr/35/ 22:05:38 <DevZone> Yippie, build fixed! 22:05:38 <DevZone> Project OpenGFX build #54-nightlies: FIXED in 5 min 58 sec: https://jenkins.openttdcoop.org/job/opengfx/54/