Times are UTC Toggle Colours
01:17:17 *** yorick has quit IRC 04:10:01 *** Supercheese has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 06:57:19 *** Supercheese has quit IRC 07:10:47 <DevZone> Project xussrset - Trains from Russia build #194-push: SUCCESS in 2 min 37 sec: https://jenkins.openttdcoop.org/job/xussrset/194/ 11:31:35 *** yorick has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 12:15:57 <planetmaker> V453000, so... DevZone didn't "forget" anything after all and everything's sorted? 12:17:33 <V453000> I didnt try since yesterday, but nothing worked :d 12:27:32 <planetmaker> probably your tortoiseHG forgot about your public key 12:27:43 <planetmaker> whyever that wasn't memorized 12:28:28 <planetmaker> https://confluence.atlassian.com/display/BITBUCKET/Configure+multiple+SSH+identities+for+TortoiseHg#ConfiguremultipleSSHidentitiesforTortoiseHg-AddyourprivatekeystoPageant <-- try this step again 12:28:30 <Webster> Title: Configure multiple SSH identities for TortoiseHg - Bitbucket - Atlassian Documentation (at confluence.atlassian.com) 12:30:45 <V453000> alright, will try at home 12:31:05 <planetmaker> also check that your login for the repo is configured for ssh, i.e. the last to paragraphs in the link I just posted 12:31:06 <V453000> I see 12:31:22 <V453000> ha I wonder if pageant needs to be launched, since i had to launch it manually the first time, it might have not been 12:31:28 <V453000> right 12:31:48 <planetmaker> it needs run as it provides the identiry 12:58:41 <V453000> yeah and I suspect it didnt launch itself I assume :D 16:18:29 <DevZone> Project NML - NewGRF Meta Language build #227-nightlies: SUCCESS in 43 sec: https://jenkins.openttdcoop.org/job/nml/227/ 16:48:07 <DevZone> Project 2ccts build #8-push: SUCCESS in 22 sec: https://jenkins.openttdcoop.org/job/2ccts/8/ 16:48:36 <DevZone> Project Dutch Trainset build #54-push: SUCCESS in 1 min 7 sec: https://jenkins.openttdcoop.org/job/dutchtrains/54/ 16:56:38 <V453000> planetmaker: yeah, the pageant thing wasnt started :d 16:56:46 <V453000> thanks (: pushing seems to be working now 17:01:07 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 17:22:01 <DevZone> Project Japanese Buildings build #88-nightlies: SUCCESS in 16 sec: https://jenkins.openttdcoop.org/job/jpbuild/88/ 17:33:49 <DevZone> Project Finnish Rail Infrastructure - Rails build #202-nightlies: SUCCESS in 8 min 3 sec: https://jenkins.openttdcoop.org/job/frissrails/202/ 17:37:23 *** frosch123 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 17:48:05 <DevZone> Project Iron Horse build #620-nightlies: SUCCESS in 1 min 17 sec: https://jenkins.openttdcoop.org/job/iron-horse/620/ 18:22:18 *** ODM has quit IRC 19:00:26 *** KenjiE20 has quit IRC 19:01:43 *** KenjiE20 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 19:06:35 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 19:07:44 <V453000> hm, did redirect get borkd? http://nuts.openttdcoop.org/ sez 404 to me 19:08:27 <V453000> also, the push worked (: thanks 19:32:14 *** gelignite has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 19:44:55 *** Alberth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 20:07:47 <planetmaker> V453000, yes, that redirect doesn't exist (anymore) 20:08:02 <V453000> uhm ... why? :0 20:08:09 <planetmaker> it was a very generic redirect which causes more issues than it's worth 20:08:25 <V453000> :( I very liked it 20:08:51 <planetmaker> I wasn't aware anyone actually used projectname.o.o instead of dev.o.o/projects/projectname 20:09:35 <V453000> I did all the time, it is also super convenient when you give link to nuts.openttdcoop.org/wiki 20:09:42 <planetmaker> there's zillion of possible character combinations thinkable which all would resolve wrongly 20:09:50 <V453000> easy to remember for people :) 20:09:57 <V453000> hm 20:10:03 <planetmaker> dev.o.o/projects/nuts/wiki isn't really much worse 20:10:20 <V453000> much, no :P 20:10:35 <V453000> it does not really matter terribly much, I was just surprised 20:10:52 <planetmaker> pester ^Spike^ to get the full account on what was all wrong with the redirect we had 20:10:59 <V453000> =D 20:11:47 <frosch123> V453000: basically it involved pbs and autorefit 20:12:00 <V453000> well shit 20:12:11 <planetmaker> :P 20:13:23 <Alberth> hi hi 20:14:54 * Alberth is very tempted to give zephyris a hand in coding, but no idea what I'd be getting myself into :) 20:16:27 <frosch123> Alberth: if you are not careful you get into a lot of discussion :p 20:16:57 <frosch123> whether it shall me a baseset, a newgrf, multiple newgrf for separate landscape, industires, .. 20:17:11 <Alberth> oh, all of the above? ;) 20:18:00 <planetmaker> oi oi Alberth :) 20:18:18 <planetmaker> Alberth, I created a project for that already. pull hg.o.o/opengfx-mars 20:18:37 <planetmaker> I made myself some work with that, though 20:18:51 <planetmaker> as-is, that structure won't easily compile on the CF 20:19:02 <planetmaker> I need to hand-craft it for this sub-repo structure 20:19:17 <planetmaker> the template applied to every other project won't work :D 20:19:42 <planetmaker> Alberth, and I'll be very happy, to not be the only one to very slowly work on that :) 20:20:13 <planetmaker> my idea was to (first, at least) go for a set of NewGRFs, similar to the other OpenGFX+ NewGRFs with a common theme 20:20:25 <planetmaker> each in its own sub-repo, but with the shared graphics repo 20:20:34 <Alberth> you're the expert here :) 20:20:58 <planetmaker> I'd not say so :P But well :) 20:21:22 <Alberth> shall we count the number of newgrfs that we each made? :D 20:22:03 <planetmaker> does that make one expert? :) 20:22:40 <Alberth> of course it does, because you'd win ;) 20:22:53 <planetmaker> I'm sure frosch is one, too, probably more than me. But has he written many? :) 20:23:48 <planetmaker> anyway, be my guest to do anything with the opengfx-mars projects 20:24:25 <Alberth> he, don't try to make objective remarks about my attempts to make you an expert ;) 20:24:48 <planetmaker> I probably won't do much before later next week as I need to study a bit for my shipping license when not working 20:24:55 <Alberth> ok, I'll ask zephyris, although I am sure he won't object 20:25:12 <frosch123> hmm, i think i have two vehicle sets, an industry set and a game script 20:25:28 <planetmaker> two vehicle sets? 20:25:33 <Alberth> me neither, too much RL stuff going on 20:25:37 <frosch123> debug vehicles and original vehicle names 20:25:42 <planetmaker> ah 20:25:44 <frosch123> manindu comes in two versions 20:25:49 <planetmaker> didn't know the latter was yours 20:26:22 <frosch123> well, it was the price to pay for ripping off the old translation :p 20:26:33 <planetmaker> I have quite some idea on what to do with landscape, that's why I created that repo already 20:28:17 <planetmaker> Alberth, locally it will be easy, if you pull the main repo. You can configure the NewGRFs like any other on the DevZone 20:28:54 <planetmaker> The landscape one currently is kinda virgin. It's a bare NewGRF without any content other than action8 (which basically only say "I'm a NewGRF and call myself OpenGFX Mars Landscape" 20:29:02 <planetmaker> ) 20:29:28 <Alberth> I'll have a look in a moment, making a PM to zephyris now 20:29:41 <planetmaker> I didn't create yet sub repos or anything for anything else, but... easy. And could be copied from current landscape one 20:29:55 <planetmaker> :) 20:30:07 <planetmaker> do you have anything you would want to start with, Alberth ? 20:30:55 <Alberth> nope, I am equally clueless about everything :) 20:31:01 <planetmaker> :) 20:31:14 <planetmaker> You *might* want to start easy. Then landscape is nice 20:31:29 <planetmaker> but then... the other stuff is not really much more complicated 20:32:42 <Alberth> I hope it is, although no doubt you can do highly complicated stuff if you want to 20:33:41 <planetmaker> yes, one can. But I doubt we need to 20:33:53 <planetmaker> A functional Mars set doesn't need over-complicated NewGRF mechanics 20:34:09 <planetmaker> even industries should work out quite straight forward 20:34:19 <planetmaker> What I'm really afraid of, is stations. 20:34:45 <planetmaker> Bridges... well... 20:37:03 <Alberth> hmm, stations are going to be nfo i guess? 20:38:23 <Alberth> marrying nml and nfo is not going to be pleasant probably 20:38:49 <planetmaker> Stations anyway need to or at least can be a separate set. 20:39:06 <planetmaker> One could do with simple sprite replacement maybe, though. But that might not be the result envisioned 20:41:19 <Alberth> hg clone ssh://hg.openttdcoop.org/opengfx-mars 20:41:20 <Alberth> remote: Permission denied (publickey). 20:41:20 <Alberth> abort: no suitable response from remote hg! 20:41:51 <planetmaker> hg@hg 20:42:29 <Alberth> ah, works 20:45:55 <^Spike^> V453000 about the redirect; Google hates us for doing it 20:46:04 <V453000> what :0 20:46:08 <^Spike^> and it's plain ugly 20:46:22 <^Spike^> i redirect everything i don't know to another page with might return something or return an error 20:46:23 <V453000> I luv it :( 20:46:29 <^Spike^> that last part kills google results alot 20:46:30 <V453000> =D 20:46:32 <V453000> hm 20:46:35 <V453000> I see 20:46:38 <^Spike^> well... we can fix it for ppl who request 20:46:47 <^Spike^> but then it's the ones that get used 20:46:52 <V453000> I really use it a lot 20:47:06 <V453000> so if I would get it back, I would be happy, but I understand if not 20:47:18 <^Spike^> as said: we can fix it when requested :) 20:47:26 <^Spike^> but the general redirect had to go :) 20:47:42 <^Spike^> it was too generic 20:47:57 <^Spike^> bladiebladieblathisshit would redirect to a project called bladiebladieblathisshit 20:48:01 <^Spike^> which doesn't exist 20:48:14 <^Spike^> if google would find that... it would start indexing it with that URL 20:48:41 <^Spike^> i'll see what i can do now to make it easy 20:49:59 <planetmaker> Alberth, looking at the sprites: I believe that for quite some things the sprite templates from zBase and / or OpenGFX(+) can be used successfully 20:50:05 <planetmaker> or with minor modifications 20:50:46 <V453000> thanks for your effort ^Spike^ :) 20:50:47 <Alberth> knowing zephyris, I am sure he has some system :) 20:51:04 <planetmaker> yeah :) 20:53:46 <Alberth> tunnelparts look blendered 20:55:25 <^Spike^> yes i broke the website :D 20:55:54 <^Spike^> he who starts complaining shall not get nice urls :D 20:57:15 <Alberth> planetmaker: anything you recommend me doing first? 20:57:41 <Alberth> vehicles? 20:58:16 <^Spike^> oh i thought for slapping me ;) 20:58:18 <frosch123> vehicles require thinking about stats and such :p 20:58:40 <Alberth> hmm, good point :p 20:58:49 <frosch123> landscape would likely be straight forward, but maybe also boring 20:59:17 <frosch123> though it also has the biggest impact on the outcome 20:59:49 <Alberth> I remember reading that pm wanted to do that 21:00:29 <^Spike^> V453000 21:00:31 <^Spike^> be happy! 21:00:33 <V453000> =D 21:00:40 <V453000> amazing 21:00:42 <V453000> thanks (: 21:00:49 * V453000 is happy 21:01:40 <Alberth> amazing how much influence you have as sys-admin :p 21:01:59 * ^Spike^ has powers! :) 21:02:25 <^Spike^> just to realize that in my daily job basicly we (as company) control so much data 21:02:26 <Alberth> we all love you 21:02:46 <frosch123> in my company the sysadmins are mostly those who failed with something else :p 21:02:48 <^Spike^> and that customers basicly have to trust you to do nothing with it... 21:02:53 <planetmaker> Alberth, I will definitely not be disappointed, if you do landscape 21:02:59 <planetmaker> as a start that's easy, I think 21:03:07 <planetmaker> and indeed has the biggest impact 21:03:12 <Alberth> ok :) 21:03:17 <^Spike^> well 1 good thing... the government gave me a paper saying: He can handle data safely! He's no spy and not stealing! 21:03:21 <^Spike^> little do they know.... ;) 21:03:27 <Taede> lol 21:03:28 <planetmaker> and additionally it already is setup. You "just" need to include the actual content 21:03:36 <planetmaker> so no bothering with grfID, makefile etc 21:03:51 <frosch123> ^Spike^: great, i got one that i am no terrorist :p 21:03:55 <^Spike^> :) 21:04:04 <^Spike^> VOG? :) 21:04:11 <^Spike^> oh wait not dutch.. :) 21:04:17 <^Spike^> that's a dutch term for that paper :) 21:04:20 <planetmaker> tendentially landscape can become boring to code, though, yes :P 21:06:08 <Alberth> I am good at simple jobs that need little thinking, especially after a long day with lots of thinking :) 21:06:21 *** ODM has quit IRC 21:06:33 <^Spike^> well this week i do have to say... i did have to accept a EULA that said: I shall not use VMWare software against the USA or provide any enemies with help to nuclear missles 21:06:39 <^Spike^> and yes that is true... it said that :) 21:06:48 <^Spike^> it's freaking VMWare! :) 21:07:08 <planetmaker> ridiculous 21:07:39 <^Spike^> also.... when i signed up... they checked if my company isn't on a blacklist.. else the course leader had to show me the door if we were... :) 21:08:14 <planetmaker> but then I signed a contract that I as supervisor would make sure that I as student don't work alone on a project I was responsible for alone. Right... 21:08:28 <^Spike^> .... :D 21:08:35 <planetmaker> alter ego helps a lot :P 21:09:52 <^Spike^> we are never alone, we are always together with 5 of us, i alone... we alone... shall do this! :D 21:12:31 <^Spike^> aslong as i'm vmware certified in the end i'm happy :) 21:40:11 *** gelignite has quit IRC 22:26:36 *** frosch123 has quit IRC 22:27:47 *** Alberth has left #openttdcoop.devzone 23:21:18 *** yorick has quit IRC