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00:58:44  <Belugas_Gone> [19:50] * glx gives sleep to Sacro   ---> Well know fact that glx does not need sleep ^_^
00:59:09  <glx> I need sleep but not now :)
01:00:22  <Belugas_Gone> hehehe
01:00:30  <Belugas_Gone> soory, could not resist ;)
01:00:41  <Belugas_Gone> i'm in big need of sleep...
01:00:49  <Belugas_Gone> will go in a few moments
01:00:56  <Belugas_Gone> just to give newhouses a try
01:02:42  <Eddi|zuHause> i can't remember when i went to bed that early ;)
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08:30:17  <CIA-2> miham * r6434 /trunk/lang/ (dutch.txt german.txt polish.txt portuguese.txt):
08:30:17  <CIA-2> WebTranslator2 update to 2006-09-09 10:29:44
08:30:17  <CIA-2> dutch - 8 fixed by habell (8)
08:30:17  <CIA-2> german - 8 fixed by Neonox (8)
08:30:17  <CIA-2> polish - 8 fixed by meush (8)
08:30:18  <CIA-2> portuguese - 8 fixed by izhirahider (8)
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08:49:25  <grimrc> I know how to make train dragging with ctrl change the cursor to a train instead of one carriage now, but how should I redesign CursorVars so that it supports multiple sprites?  some kind of array of sprites, with NULL being the end of the list?
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08:50:53  <grimrc> and an accompanying array of offsets, to control where the cursor sprites are drawn in relation to each other?
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08:52:33  <grimrc> what is the sprite with SpriteID 0?  that might throw a spanner in the null-terminate plans
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09:37:14  <ptk^^> how to convert r6395 scenario or save to 0.4.8?
09:38:21  <Osai> that's probably not possible IMHO :/
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09:39:17  <ptk^^> :/
09:39:19  <AsterixMG> hi @all
09:39:44  <Osai> 'lo
09:39:52  <ptk^^> they should then release 0.4.9 quick
09:40:09  <Zavior> Why so
09:40:24  <Osai> ptk^^: r6395 includes tgp-maps, 0.4.8 doesn't, thats why its not compatible
09:40:33  <ptk^^> heightmap is good enough reason to release new version :)
09:41:32  <AsterixMG> ptk^^, as long as the nightlies are subject to big changes and not considered stable enough there wont be a new version
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09:42:39  <Bjarni> greetings people
09:43:30  <ptk^^> AsterixMG, allright.. i can say it's stable
09:43:47  <ptk^^> (but multiplayer not yet tested)
09:43:49  <AsterixMG> hi Bjarni
09:44:46  <AsterixMG> ptk^^, you forgot the first part of my statement :) "subject to big changes"
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09:45:54  <ptk^^> AsterixMG, no i didn't, i expect this heightmap is big changes :)
09:46:18  <Rubidium> ptk^^: 0.4.9 would also be 0.4.8 + bugfixes and the heightmap (for example) is  not a bugfix
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09:49:35  <grimrc> I thought there would be no 0.4.9
09:49:40  <Bjarni> same here
09:49:53  <ptk^^> well, there is server for r6395, usa map 1024x512
09:50:21  <ptk^^> look's almost like real, thanks for heightmaps creator
09:50:22  <Bjarni> AsterixMG: "subject to big changes" <-- you mean the station stats patch?
09:50:39  <AsterixMG> Bjarni, i do not consider that a big change :)
09:50:59  <AsterixMG> its just a small addition if it ever gets in
09:51:03  <Bjarni> I meant big change in the patch, not in the game ;)
09:51:46  <AsterixMG> Bjarni, oh, yeah, you came in after i said the complete sentenc :)
09:52:02  <AsterixMG> it was: as long as the nightlies are subject to big changes and not considered stable enough there wont be a new version
09:52:33  <Bjarni> ahh
09:53:32  <AsterixMG> but considering the stats-patch: should i put in the counting of scheduled vehicles in this patch or add it later by a separate patch, Bjarni?
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09:54:19  <Bjarni> maybe later, because now I actually decided to look at version 5 of the diff
09:54:32  <Bjarni> if you add more stuff, I have to start over
09:55:14  <AsterixMG> Bjarni, lol, don't look to much at v5, its outdated :)
09:55:49  <AsterixMG> rather look at
09:56:09  <Bjarni> ahh, you fixed the missing newline in english.txt
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10:10:52  <grimrc> what is _traininfo_vehicle_pitch?
10:21:33  <Bjarni> AsterixMG:
10:21:43  <Bjarni> it's /* */, not /** */
10:22:14  <Bjarni> o_O
10:22:19  <Bjarni> well, it used to be that way
10:22:21  <AsterixMG> Bjarni, yes, Rubidium told me yesterday, too... i overread it in there and am changing it currently :)
10:22:26  <Bjarni> who changed it this time???
10:22:39  <AsterixMG> Bjarni, its still there, just a bit hidden :)
10:22:53  <Bjarni> int i; /**< This is the description. */
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10:24:07  <AsterixMG> you made the same mistake i did and went right down to code documentation :)
10:29:15  <Bjarni> in DrawStationStatWindow(), you set x to 10, then you read from it (only read, not write) and then you set it to 10 again
10:29:31  <Bjarni> the last time is not needed as it's already 10 ;)
10:31:53  <AsterixMG> hmm, i commented both lines and didn't realize they are twice the same... man was i sleepey tonight :P
10:32:24  <Bjarni> *last night
10:32:30  <Bjarni> it haven't been tonight yet
10:32:34  <Bjarni> did you sleep at all?
10:32:35  <Bjarni> :P
10:32:56  <AsterixMG> :/
10:34:28  <Bjarni> +		case WE_TICK:
10:34:28  <Bjarni> +			InvalidateWindow(WC_STATS_STATION_VEHICLES, w->window_number); <-- this is often. Try to redraw it by invalidate it in (vehicle type)ArrivesAt() and new month event
10:34:52  <Bjarni> no need to update it every tick if it only change content when a new vehicle arrives or at new month event
10:35:49  <Bjarni> sure, every tick will ensure that it's always up to date, but let's try not to use way more CPU power than needed ;)
10:41:06  <Rubidium> AsterixMG: maybe you should add an IncrementSTS(Station *st, STS_Veh type) function, which is called in aircraft, ship, roadveh and train_cmd.c, instead of duplicating a lot of fairly similar code
10:41:29  <Bjarni> yeah, that was the next thing I was going to say
10:42:29  <Bjarni> and then ensure that STS_VEH_ALL is 0 and so on
10:42:43  <Rubidium> that's not needed as far as I know
10:43:07  <Bjarni> I don't think it's needed, but to be on the safe side
10:43:14  <Bjarni> hmm
10:43:23  <Rubidium> STS_VEH_TYPE_COUNT is always larger than the stuff before it, so the allocated table is always large enough
10:43:24  <Bjarni> or will it even matter...
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10:44:00  <Rubidium> not adding the numbers makes it easier to add new types to the station stats
10:44:01  <Bjarni> AsterixMG: are you still here?
10:44:16  <AsterixMG> i had them numbered in earlier versions but Rubidium said its not needed :)
10:44:34  <Bjarni> then it's not needed ;)
10:45:49  <AsterixMG> it works without explicitly numbering them
10:46:37  <AsterixMG> i will make a bit of benchmarking about that incrementing-function... dont want to make it slower by such a thing :)
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12:17:55  <Bjarni> tip: quit IRC before rebooting the router or you will have a timeout issue ;)
12:18:17  <ln-> why would someone need to reboot a router?
12:19:22  <roboboy> our router blocked one of our cards randomly and the only way of fixing it was to reboot
12:19:34  <Rubidium> because you 'lend' the router from the provider and they messed with the configuration?
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12:20:41  <Bjarni> more like it needs to be rebooted when the NAT routing table is altered
12:21:01  <Bjarni> AsterixMG: you sure take your time benchmarking that loop :P
12:22:44  <ln-> i have never needed to reboot my Linksys, except on firmware upgrade.
12:23:04  <grimrc> I have rarely
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12:29:27  <Sacro> i reboot mine when it gets slowe
12:30:14  <ln-> seems you have poor quality routers.
12:31:10  <Wolf01> suggestion: svn rss, is possible to have "rXXXX [dd/mm/yyyy] info" instead of "revision XXXX info"?
12:31:50  <Sacro> ln-: mine? tis a safecom, so yes
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12:36:04  <grimrc> mine's linksys WRT54G
12:37:16  <roboboy> ours is a DLink
12:45:07  <Bjarni> well, I think if I used the firmware update, I didn't need to reboot it in this case, but....
12:45:07  <Rubidium> Wolf01: that might become troublesome if somebody compiles his own version and lives in Australia, as he would be in the next day with respect to the nightly (even if they are compiled at the same time)
12:45:44  <ln-> mine is linksys WRT54GL
12:45:47  <Wolf01> and if we use GMT?
12:46:14  <Bjarni> we anything, we should use MET
12:46:24  <Bjarni> since that is what all the developers use
12:46:44  <Sacro> should be UTC
12:46:45  <Rubidium> then you have to write a script that converts the date 'svn info' tells you to the correct date
12:47:42  <Rubidium> and then it is still possible to have two nightlies with the same date
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12:48:02  <Wolf01> i don't mean the nightlies
12:48:14  <Wolf01> i mean the svn
12:48:41  <Wolf01> for example this:
12:48:42  <Rubidium> that would end up in the nightly
12:49:12  <Bjarni> Wolf01: it already got a timestamp...
12:49:28  <Wolf01> i have to click on the item, wait some years to load the page and then look at the timestamp
12:49:41  <Nigel> talking about Routers, this Belkin one needs to walk it self to the nearest trashcan, and replace itself with a wireless counterpart
12:49:50  <Nigel> *with a cisco counterpart
12:50:07  * Bjarni hates cisco
12:50:09  <Nigel> then i'll get a seperate wireless access point
12:50:44  <Rubidium> Wolf01: there is a publish date in the rss
12:50:47  <Bjarni> they added a server to use to get time set and it violated the rules of that server, but they don't care
12:50:52  <Bjarni> now that server is totally overloaded
12:51:02  <Nigel> that was dlink
12:51:12  <Bjarni> are you sure?
12:51:16  * Bjarni looks it up
12:51:16  <Wolf01> [14:50:58] <Rubidium> Wolf01: there is a publish date in the rss <- i can't see it
12:51:18  <Nigel> fairly
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12:51:29  <ln-> Bjarni: it was d-link.
12:52:09  <Nigel> Dlink set up this server as the default NTP server on their new routers, guy wondered why the heck the b/w went up and up, filed a lawsuit from memory claiming damages
12:52:16  <Nigel> last i heard, they settled pre-count
12:52:20  <Nigel> *court
12:52:59  <ln-> i don't think they got as far as filing a lawsuit. the "guy" only wrote an open letter.
12:53:12  <Nigel> I think the agreement was, that they'd pay for losses, and gradually change the settings in the form of firmware updates
12:53:12  <Bjarni> yeah, it was actually D-Link
12:53:19  <Bjarni> why did I remember that as cisco....
12:53:29  <Nigel> ln-, i though he was talking a lawsuit, but dropped it because d-link settled
12:54:31  <Bjarni> still, he lost a lot of money and D-Link didn't care until he went public and threatened them with a lawsuit
12:54:36  <Nigel> god, wouldn't you?  some company is causing your bandwidth bills to skyrocket and you just start an open letter? doubt it
12:54:48  <Bjarni> the threat alone didn't do anything, hence the public letter
12:55:02  <Nigel> Bjarni, i actually thought he filed
12:55:12  <Nigel> a threat of a lawsuit means nothing these days
12:55:37  <Bjarni> he had problems doing that since they are on different continents
12:55:40  <ln-> Nigel: it's not cheap to go to court with a company you cannot even necessarily sue in your own country.
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12:56:41  <Nigel> Bjarni, ahhh right, it was a few months back now, and I don't think i read those stories in ComputerWorld start to finish
12:56:49  <ln-> Nigel: and as far as i know, the contents of the agreement is not revealed, and therefore any talk about paying for losses is pure speculation.
12:58:01  <Nigel> ln-, from memory he said that he was happy with the settlement though, which means that either they gave him and his family 10 lifetimes supply of equipment with his NTP server listed, or covered the costs
12:58:03  <Bjarni> <-- I think D-Link have to day a monthly fee for this settlement
12:58:44  <Bjarni> odds are that it's still cheaper than fixing all the routers calling the wrong server
12:59:34  <ln-> Nigel: yeah, but it's still speculation only. all the information that is given is on the page Bjarni just pasted.
13:00:19  <Bjarni> and I started the comment with "I think" which also indicates speculations
13:00:56  <Nigel> Bjarni, well yeah, i'm pretty sure money is/has changed hands somewhere/time
13:01:03  <ln-> the third option is that dlink made "an offer he couldn't refuse". (see Godfather the movie if you don't know the term.)
13:01:38  <Bjarni> I don't see how they could do that
13:03:41  <Sacro> swedish female
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13:04:15  <Bjarni> Sacro: he is married and we actually got plenty of Swedes here
13:05:17  <Sacro> Bjarni: send me some
13:05:35  <Bjarni> I can't
13:05:41  <Bjarni> they refuse to go to Hull
13:06:08  <Sacro> i cant blame em
13:06:32  * Bjarni also refuses to go to Hull
13:07:01  * Bjarni might get shot by a paranoid 22 year old boy living with his mother
13:07:58  <Bjarni> bbl
13:08:40  <Nigel> Bjarni, want to export one here?
13:09:25  <Bjarni> why would I send them away from here???
13:09:30  <Nigel> i can give you the mailing address, although, i must wonder how big they are... will they fit in my PO Box?
13:09:30  <Bjarni> bbl 4 real
13:09:38  <Nigel> :P
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13:10:10  <ln-> Nigel: they are small, you only need to fill them with air.
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13:11:13  <Nigel> ahhh, right, thats good, if they get intercepted at Customs, they are Don Brash's long lost Daughter, customs will know what that means and will be scared stiff...
13:12:38  <Nigel> then again, on second thoughts
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13:52:56  <grimrc> how do you turn a VehicleID back in to a Vehicle * ?
13:53:13  <Rubidium> GetVehicle ?
13:53:26  <grimrc> oh cheers
13:54:36  <Wolf01> uhm, when i load a game with miniIN r6403, some vehicles (from the cargoset.grf) have weight and power equal to 0
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14:08:14  <Jango> afternoon people
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14:43:20  <Sacro> gah, i hæt microsoft
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14:47:32  <Bjarni> <Sacro>	gah, i hæt microsoft <-- worthless statement as it's presumed to hate Microsoft unless stated otherwise
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14:47:55  <Bjarni> btw I saw that MS accuses EU for delaying Vista :D
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14:48:27  <Kjetil> haha
14:51:12  <Bjarni> next thing might be that they want EU to either remove some anti-monopol directives or pay compensation
14:53:02  <Sacro> i want IE to be FORCED to support w3c specs
14:54:47  <mikk36[EST]>
14:54:56  <mikk36[EST]> launch @ 18:15
14:55:01  <mikk36[EST]> by my time:P
14:55:08  <mikk36[EST]> that's 20 minutes
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14:55:35  <Sacro> bet it atin
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14:56:13  <Sacro> mikk36: ooh, nice streaming video
14:56:19  <mikk36> yup
14:56:41  <Sacro> though no talking
14:56:44  <Sacro> oh, there he goes
14:56:48  <mikk36> there is talking
14:56:57  <mikk36> no it won't go yet
14:57:04  <mikk36> at :05 the timer will continue
14:57:07  <mikk36> 9 minute timer
14:57:32  <Bjarni> I better not watch it
14:57:36  <mikk36> there was a 45 minute delay earlier
14:57:45  <mikk36> when the countdown had passed 1 minute
14:58:00  <Bjarni> last time, I watched each time they delayed the launch and the first time I missed watching, they manage to get it launched
14:58:09  <mikk36> lo
14:58:11  <mikk36> lol*
14:58:23  <mikk36> touch luck:P
14:58:34  <mikk36> last time i watched it they didn't delay it at all
14:58:49  <mikk36> it was 1-2 years ago i think
14:58:55  <mikk36> some delta shuttle
14:59:28  <ln-> obviously it was bjarni's fault they couldn't launch it.
14:59:34  <Bjarni> the Delta Flyer will not be build for another 400 years
14:59:40  <mikk36> ofc :P
14:59:47  <Sacro> ln-: hehe
14:59:50  <Bjarni> don't you know your Star Trekotology?
15:00:04  <Sacro> its not that long till 1st contact, i cant wait
15:01:19  <Sacro> OTTD? OTTD is go :p
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15:06:24  <Sacro> hmm, this launch sequence is complex
15:06:45  <Sacro> not as simple as sit down, insert key, turn key, up throttle, release brakes
15:06:57  <Eddi|zuHause2> what exactly are they trying to launch this time?
15:07:38  <mikk36> a shuttle ? :P
15:07:43  <Eddi|zuHause2> i thought they stopped basically all travels after their 30 year old shuttle exploded
15:07:44  <mikk36> look urself :)
15:07:48  <Sacro> Eddi|zuHause2: shuttle
15:08:09  <Sacro> is it me, or is that door open
15:08:23  <Eddi|zuHause2> yes :)
15:08:24  <Sacro> that should really be closed before takeoff
15:09:36  <Sacro> rain safety? that just a giant umbrella
15:10:48  <Eddi|zuHause2> this phrase lacks a verb
15:10:57  <mikk36> 5 minutes to launch
15:12:37  <Sacro> Eddi|zuHause2: isnt "lacks" a verb?
15:12:39  <Sacro> to be lacking
15:13:15  * Eddi|zuHause2 slaps Sacro
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15:14:10  <mikk36> Bjarni, the launch will be this time
15:14:13  <mikk36> 1:30 left
15:14:19  <Sacro> 1 :p
15:14:29  * Sacro can hear a washing machine :|
15:14:42  <Sacro> then again it could be mine
15:14:51  <mikk36> sacro, same
15:15:03  <Sacro> that bird is toas
15:15:09  <mikk36> 30seconds
15:15:15  <Sacro> its GONE :S
15:15:16  <Sacro> :D
15:15:20  <Sacro> mikk36: your lagging
15:17:02  <Sacro> what a waste of fuel
15:17:05  <mikk36> lol
15:17:17  <mikk36> half of fuel burnt
15:17:22  <Sacro> hmm, something just fell off
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15:17:31  <mikk36> they drop stuff
15:17:33  <mikk36> it's usual
15:17:36  <Sacro> SRB
15:18:02  <Sacro> 61 miles in 2 minutes
15:18:23  <Sacro> i could pop and see JohnUK89 in under the time it takes to boil the kettble
15:18:25  <Sacro> *kettle
15:19:00  <Sacro> 4,400mph :|
15:20:11  <ln-> Bjarni: you can watch it already.
15:20:45  <Sacro> yes, he cant turn around and land now :p
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15:22:21  <Bjarni> back
15:22:26  <Bjarni> did I miss anything?
15:22:28  <Sacro> Bjarni: hellooooooooooo
15:22:29  <Sacro> yes
15:22:46  <Bjarni> damn
15:23:04  <Bjarni> I can't watch video and use IRC at the same time :s
15:24:17  <Sacro> lol
15:24:42  <Bjarni> so I decided to dare to watch that video stream and miss IRC, but...
15:24:54  <Bjarni> somebody here must have said something important
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15:25:28  <Bjarni> actually I could have done both, but...
15:25:39  <Bjarni> people showed up to watch the video stream on my computer
15:26:02  <Sacro> hehe
15:26:05  <Bjarni> and I guess they didn't fancy me multitasking into other apps
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15:32:17  <Sacro> due to spreading ><
15:34:19  <Wolf01> do you know if there is an opensource terrain engine like the locomotion's one?
15:35:52  <ln-> it's over southern britain now.
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15:36:21  <Sacro> ln-: how do you know?
15:36:28  * Sacro wonders if he can see it
15:36:34  <ln-> Wolf01: good question, i've been looking for one too.
15:36:46  <Sacro> theres OGRE
15:36:51  <ln-> Sacro: they were showing a map on nasatv.
15:37:33  <Sacro> ah yes
15:38:06  <Sacro> wow, its only 14 months younger than me
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15:40:32  <Sacro> >< its running XP
15:40:45  <Sacro> going over turkey
15:56:59  <Bjarni> you mean NASA uses XP in their vehicles???
15:57:11  <Bjarni> that is like a disaster waiting to happen
16:00:14  <ln-> mikk36: what size of bank notes do ATMs give out in .ee? 500 or 100? or both?
16:02:26  <Sacro> Bjarni: no, their moving map display had an XP start bar at the bottom
16:07:58  <Bjarni> ahh
16:08:16  <Bjarni> they got a special version of XP?
16:08:24  <Bjarni> one, that actually works?
16:10:07  <ptk^^> one question, is it nightly r6395 compatible then compatible with upcoming 4.0.9?
16:12:08  <Sacro> ptk^^: dunno, 4.0.9  is yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeears away
16:15:49  <Born_Acorn> Ooh. Breakoff.
16:16:26  <ptk^^> :/
16:16:32  <Sacro> Corn_Baron?
16:16:58  <Born_Acorn> I watched that camera thingy
16:17:02  <Born_Acorn> on the Nasa.
16:17:31  <Born_Acorn> The big external orangy tank thingy broke off.
16:17:43  <Sacro> the SRB?
16:17:52  <Sacro> i feel sorry for whoever that lands on
16:19:35  <Born_Acorn> The poor atmosphere.
16:20:10  <Bjarni> I think ptk^^ meant 0.4.9
16:20:19  <Bjarni> and no, it's not compatible
16:20:36  <Bjarni> simply because we don't plan a 0.4.9 release
16:22:10  <Sacro> and because nightlys are always ahead of stables
16:22:27  <Sacro> 0.4.8 was a backported release
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16:26:31  <Born_Acorn> ptk^^, 0.5.0 is next, I believe.
16:26:53  <Born_Acorn> 1.0.0 needs to arrive before 4.0.9 can even be possible. :p
16:28:11  * Sacro plays some Minty
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16:47:42  <Sacro> Wolf01: how do you join stations?
16:48:11  <Wolf01> alt key
16:48:21  <Sacro> yeah, thats not gonna work under linux
16:48:37  <Sacro> well, gnome at least
16:49:29  <Wolf01> i think i'll add a button in the station building gui
16:50:55  <Frostregen> no alt key?
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16:53:13  <Wolf01> as sacro said, some OS have this problem
16:53:33  <Frostregen> hm
16:54:43  <Frostregen> maybe rewrite the patch to only use crtl
16:55:19  <Frostregen> join&split is possible via the gui already
16:55:25  <Wolf01> yes
16:55:28  <Wolf01> i know
16:56:03  <Frostregen> i may have found a way to only show your own stations
16:56:12  <Frostregen> but i have to test this
16:57:59  <Sacro> Frostregen: ALT + left button is for moving windows
16:58:20  <Sacro> join & split gui?
16:58:45  <Frostregen> it only pops up, when using ALT ;)
16:59:16  <Sacro> ah, bums
16:59:40  <Frostregen> or....if you place a station adjacent to 2 different stations
16:59:51  <Wolf01> make competitors' stations visible if shared stations/subsidisries are enabled in patches
17:00:13  <Frostregen> Wolf01: no, you can not join to their stations
17:00:36  <Wolf01> if shared stations is enabled you can join at competitors stations
17:00:56  <Frostregen> really? have to test this =)
17:02:06  <Wolf01> the same thing for subsidiaries, which is shared stations too
17:02:39  <Wolf01> (or uses the shared stations patch?)
17:04:29  <Frostregen> hmm, i can not join to a competitors station
17:04:39  <Wolf01> are you sure?
17:04:47  <Frostregen> adjacent, yes
17:04:51  <Frostregen> but joining, no
17:08:00  <Wolf01> uhm, maybe only with subsidiaries
17:09:25  <Frostregen> indeed
17:09:46  <Frostregen> but it will be the same owner as the original station
17:10:11  <Wolf01> yes
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17:22:38  <AsterixMG> back... bjarni, i didn't test the loop that much, but i had to leave for work :/
17:24:20  <Bjarni> great timing. Now I have to leave :/
17:24:31  <AsterixMG> anyway, doing it without a increment-function is faster (at least in a debug-build on windows)
17:24:47  <AsterixMG> will you be back later?
17:24:49  <Bjarni> ALWAYS test speed on release builds
17:25:04  <Bjarni> I think I will be back in an hour or 90 minutes or something like that
17:25:24  <AsterixMG> till then i might have had enough time to test in release-mode :)
17:37:06  <Sacro> :(
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17:47:28  * Sacro considers writing an IE replacement in VB
17:47:44  <AsterixMG> lol
17:48:03  <AsterixMG> download firefox or opera or mozilla, thats easier ;)
17:48:15  <Sacro> AsterixMG: i have firefox and opera
17:48:25  <Sacro> im just curious as to how hard it can be to support CSS
17:49:38  <AsterixMG> damn, TIC-TOC won't work in release-mode
17:51:33  <mikk36> ln-, what ?
17:51:44  <mikk36> bank notes ?
17:52:20  <Ploes> who controls the CSS standard?
17:52:40  <AsterixMG> Rubidium, are you around?
17:52:52  <Sacro> Ploes: w3c
17:55:34  <Ploes> thanks
17:55:53  <ln-> mikk36: bank notes.
17:56:04  <mikk36> ???
17:56:20  <mikk36> paper currency ?
17:56:42  <ln-> paberraha
17:56:43  <mikk36> sry, "bank note" is a new expression to me :P
17:57:04  <mikk36> i tried my translator, wasn't the nicest :P
17:57:08  <mikk36> anyway
17:57:14  <mikk36> we can take 25, 50, 100 and 500
17:57:29  <ln-> ok, thanks.
17:57:38  <mikk36> why do u need to know that ?
17:58:19  <Sacro> *coughs* photocopie
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17:58:45  <ln-> to know how little i can get if needed...
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17:58:52  <mikk36> u're coming to estonia ?
17:59:06  <Sacro> ooh, estonia
17:59:15  <ln-> yeah, for a day.
17:59:17  <Ploes> I have a 50 Euro note that got left in my Monopoly set.
17:59:17  <mikk36> heh
17:59:30  <Ploes> its not like its easy to tell the differnce
17:59:35  <mikk36> riiight :P
18:00:05  <Ploes> 50euro and the 100 monopoly are the same colour :p
18:01:21  <Ploes> still im sure i can make the 50 disapear next week in Holland :D
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18:06:08  <mikk36> heh
18:06:26  <mikk36> ln-, what's the main reason u're coming here ? business?
18:07:54  <ln-> mikk36: nah, just a one-day holiday. and i like going abroad now and then even though estonia isn't that far.
18:08:12  <mikk36> far from which country ? :)
18:08:29  <ln-> soome
18:08:35  <mikk36> heh
18:08:53  <mikk36> nice time to come :P
18:09:05  <mikk36> just when we have 3 big road constructions
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18:10:02  <ln-> i'm only planning to visit tallinn though.
18:10:33  <mikk36> well,all those 3 are IN tallinn:P
18:11:11  <mikk36> 1 in pirita, 1 on tartu hwy and one between kristiine and mustamäe :P
18:11:35  <mikk36> which all 3 make travelling from outer city to the center part extremely slow :P
18:11:45  <mikk36> and the same is on the evening back outside:P
18:12:08  <mikk36> on friday i drove 16km 1 hour :)
18:12:20  <ln-> what if i just walk from/to the harbour... like i've done before.
18:12:31  <mikk36> then u're perfectly fine :)
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18:15:19  <Ploes> hmm
18:15:27  <Ploes> long time since ive used IRC
18:15:37  <Ploes> did anyone see the reason for me leaving?
18:15:45  <Noldo> ping timeout
18:15:54  <Ploes> odd
18:15:56  <Ploes> thanks
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18:35:51  <Wolf01> 'night all
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19:00:43  <Frostregen> within a command (for example: CmdBuildRailroadStation) does _current_player refer to the player who issued the command, or the one whose client it is executed on(multiplayer)?
19:02:15  <Frostregen> hmm, sorry could have answered this myself
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19:23:59  <Rubidium> AsterixMG: now I am
19:25:06  <AsterixMG> i changed it to be in a separate function for now
19:25:55  <AsterixMG> this is the current diff:
19:28:06  <Rubidium> typedef uint8 STS_Veh_Type; // Station-stats vehicle type <- I would that differently:
19:28:51  <Rubidium> 'typedef enum STS_Vehicle_Types { STS_VEH_ALL, .... STS_VEH_TYPE_COUNT } STS_Vehicle_Type;' and place the other values in an anonymous enum (as it is now)
19:29:46  <Rubidium> I would also write IncrementStationVehicleStats instead of IncrementStationVehStats
19:30:28  <Rubidium> in station_cmd you've not added a newline before the comments of SetNewMonthStats
19:33:39  <Rubidium> STS_Veh(icle)_Type should be STSVeh(icle)Type according to the coding style
19:35:00  <Rubidium> please move your IncrementStationVeh(icle)Stats function to somewhere near the SetNewMonthStats
19:36:00  <Rubidium> in DrawStationStatWindow the comments near SetDParam/DrawWindowWidgets are not aligned properly (probably some tabs or so)
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19:37:14  <AsterixMG> hmm, yeah those were tabs, but i am sure i didn't make any tabs there :/
19:39:59  <Rubidium> ShowStationStatsWindow: if (w) should be if (w != NULL)
19:40:22  <Rubidium> that magic 0x10 number is _bad_
19:40:52  <Rubidium> and why doesn't it use the company color?
19:40:57  <AsterixMG> hmm, i copy/pasted it from somewhere... now where was that from :)
19:41:41  <Rubidium> hmm, should also be Station *st instead of Station* st
19:42:26  <AsterixMG> note to self: don't copy paste whole functions and only rename them
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19:43:32  <Rubidium> ok, now some ingame issues
19:44:06  <Rubidium> the window does not get removed when the station is destroyed (as in: the sign of the station)
19:49:26  <Rubidium> I don't like the slashes after the numbers
19:50:43  <AsterixMG> what do you think would look better?
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19:51:34  <Rubidium> you should align the numbers with the text and you can use abbreviations, e.g. "avg, min, max, month" and in the other window you can write the month, like April, May
19:52:41  <Rubidium> the 'toggle' button should, like in the normal station window change and only contain the name for the kind of statistics you are not showing
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19:54:20  <Rubidium> AsterixMG: it works nice
19:54:59  <AsterixMG> at least one thing thats ok :)
19:55:10  <AsterixMG> what do you think about the colours of the numbers?
19:56:02  <Bjarni> back
19:56:08  <Rubidium> that looks nice
19:56:25  <Rubidium> only remark is that the color for min and counted months looks too similar
19:56:29  <AsterixMG> hmm, can i change the text displayed on a button without having a second widget-set?
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19:57:19  <AsterixMG> Rubidium, the old patch used a different, harder to maintain/expand layout where that didn't matter that much
19:57:41  <AsterixMG> i'll look if i can find a good to read colour thats different
19:58:47  <Frostregen> you could draw the text by using drawstring, instead of supplying it to the widget
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19:59:08  <Rubidium> yes, that seems to be the only way
19:59:49  <AsterixMG> ok, cause it looks futile to make two widget-sets if only one text changes and everything else stays the same
20:01:01  <Rubidium> you can do it without using drawstring I just remember how ;)
20:01:16  <Rubidium> *remembered
20:02:18  <Rubidium> you make a string for both ways and an extra string with '{SKIP}{SKIP}{STRING}'. This string you put in the widget table.
20:02:59  <Rubidium> Then with SetDParam(2, <the string to use>) before DrawWindowWidgets you can set the string for the button
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20:13:47  <Rubidium> <- like that
20:14:00  <AsterixMG> that SetDParam-method works perfectly :)
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20:16:19  <AsterixMG> so param 3 is the tip, good to know :)
20:17:04  <Rubidium> it's param 3 because there are 3 {SKIP}s in the string of the tooltip
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21:00:56  <mattfury> hi
21:01:30  <mattfury> if i wanted to add a translation into a pre-installed game, how would i go about doing so??
21:04:55  <Eddi|zuHause2> what exactly do you want to do`
21:05:08  <Rubidium> just wanted to ask that ;)
21:05:24  <Eddi|zuHause2> s/`/\?/
21:05:58  <Rubidium> and what do you mean with pre-installed and where did you get the translation from, or do you want to start translating a yet untranslated language?
21:11:08  <mattfury> dont worry i found it.
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21:11:14  <Eddi|zuHause2> hm... we need a system to translate newgrf strings...
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21:41:17  <Bjarni> Eddi|zuHause2: check the forum. I already talked about this and patchman showed up with an idea on how to do it
21:43:56  <AsterixMG> yet again a new version:
21:44:13  <AsterixMG> hope i didn't miss any of Rubidium's comments
21:44:31  <AsterixMG> theres some comments missing now again ;)
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21:47:36  <Rubidium> AsterixMG: maybe you should add a simple comment to the SetDParams in DrawStationStatWindow in general that 2 & 3 are of the toggle button and therefore flipped with respect to 4
21:49:00  <AsterixMG> i was thinking about turning that around at the moment, so they are in the same order as the widgets again
21:49:15  <Rubidium> and there is a slight misalignment in the first if-block (DrawString ...)
21:49:25  <AsterixMG> already corrected :)
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21:56:27  <Rubidium> AsterixMG: the GUI looks much nicer now
21:56:53  <AsterixMG> good :) do you think the colours are better now?
21:57:54  <Rubidium> maybe you should make the left and right button a little wider; same size as in standard station window, as other languages might have strings that are a little longer
21:58:25  <Rubidium> yes, the colors are better
21:59:44  <Rubidium> maybe you should spread the this/last month columns a little. Now the window 'feels' empty as there is a large empty place on the right, though that might also be the case if you spread them evenly
22:00:24  <AsterixMG> Rubidium, that space is "reserved" ;)
22:00:50  <AsterixMG> i want to show the number of scheduled vehicles for that station there, but that will be a separate patch
22:01:56  <AsterixMG> when that is added it won't look that empty anymore, but for now i can spread them a bit wider
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22:14:18  <Bjarni> AsterixMG: well, it looks good now
22:14:31  <Bjarni> maybe I should try to compile it...
22:14:42  <AsterixMG> no, it asserts when trying to see the tip for the infoline :)
22:15:38  <Bjarni> that would be one of the things, that I would test
22:15:49  <CIA-2> rubidium * r6435 /trunk/console_cmds.c: -Fix (FS#340): show an error message when executing 'scrollto x' with x < 0 or >= MapSize() instead of asserting later on.
22:15:49  <Bjarni> so I guess I need a version 9 to test on
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22:17:10  <AsterixMG> grmbl, why doesnt it work for that :/
22:18:19  <Rubidium> AsterixMG: you've changed the order in SetDParam?
22:18:33  <AsterixMG> yes, and the strings too
22:19:00  <AsterixMG> it works for the other two, but not for that one
22:19:07  <Rubidium> there is probably one with 1 or 5 {SKIP}s
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22:29:05  <AsterixMG> i don't understand it... if i make it the 4. param, it works, but if i make it the secont it doesn't :/
22:29:23  <Rubidium> are the lang files recompiled?
22:29:47  <AsterixMG> i rebuild the whole project to no avail
22:31:09  <Rubidium> you made it the 4th param and did not change the lang file and then it works again? Then you've not modified/saved english.txt (or modified the wrong english.txt)
22:31:52  <AsterixMG> of course i modified the english.txt, too when reverting
22:33:08  <Rubidium> can you post a diff of the 'not working' version with the infoline at 2?
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22:35:00  <AsterixMG>
22:35:11  <AsterixMG> was at doing exactly that :)
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22:38:36  <Rubidium> it's always nice to do full recompiles ;)
22:39:23  <AsterixMG> rebuild solution should do exactly that...
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22:46:38  <AsterixMG> Rubidium, i don't know why it works for you, but it doesn't for me :/ i always get invalid string ID 0
22:47:22  <Rubidium> your 'not working' version does not work for me either
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22:48:22  <AsterixMG> ah, ok, thought it was something completely weird on my machine, but if its not that, why does it fail :(
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22:49:10  <Rubidium> that is a very good question
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22:53:36  <Bjarni> is there a limit to the number of allowed {SKIP} or the max number of arguments or something
22:54:22  <Bjarni> try removing all the {SKIP} from the string in question and see what happens
22:54:24  <Rubidium> that's certainly more than 5
22:54:30  <AsterixMG> Bjarni, cant be, cause it works if i swap around the order of the parameters, without actually changing the number of skips or arguments
22:54:41  <Bjarni> hmm
22:54:42  <Bjarni> weird
22:55:01  <AsterixMG> thats why i don't really get whats going on
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22:59:28  <AsterixMG> Bjarni, the version 8 worked, the not_working doesn't... the only code-change is the altered order of the parameters and string-changes
22:59:30  <Rubidium> it starts to get even more weird: take for reference case 0x88 at line 784+ of strings.c
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23:01:49  <Rubidium> hmm, never mind.. I called some function with side effects in the debugger :(
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23:03:04  <Bjarni> well, all problems got a solution, so it's "just" a matter of finding it ;)
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23:03:59  <Bjarni> goodnight
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23:23:30  <Rubidium> AsterixMG: now I know why it goes wrong...
23:23:48  <AsterixMG> what did i do wrong?
23:24:00  <Rubidium> the value gets overwritten before you right-click, and 2 is more likely to be overwritten
23:24:58  <Rubidium> for standard drawing SetDParam works nicely, but it won't work for tooltips, though I have an idea
23:26:16  <AsterixMG> hmm, this means even the working version only worked "by accident"
23:26:36  <Rubidium> yup
23:34:48  <Rubidium> AsterixMG:
23:36:20  <Rubidium> what it basically does is manually initiate drawing the tooltips
23:36:41  <AsterixMG> yeah, just found it
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23:42:59  <AsterixMG> now it seems to work... but now i go to bed, thanks for the help Rubidium
23:43:10  <Rubidium> AsterixMG: wouldn't it be the case that most, if not all, stations will run the SetNewMonthStats function, because if a station is ever used, it will always run the function
23:43:52  <AsterixMG> hmm, yes, only stations not yet used don't run it
23:45:01  <AsterixMG> so i should remove that first if in the monthly-loop?
23:45:48  <Rubidium> yes
23:47:23  <Rubidium> +if (w) { <- should be if (w != NULL) {
23:48:19  <AsterixMG> yeah, next time i copy-paste code i will look if its good code first ;)
23:49:46  <Rubidium> the whole if should become "if (w != NULL) w->caption_color = st->owner;"
23:50:42  <Rubidium> oh, no, nevermind... the != OWNER_NONE is needed after all for oil rigs
23:52:10  <Rubidium> might be useful to add a comment to that if that it is for the oil rigs
23:52:33  <Rubidium> well, good night, going to sleep aswell.
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23:53:21  <AsterixMG> gn, Rubidium
23:55:17  <AsterixMG> and good night to everyone else
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