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00:11:56 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1F7C7.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:20:39 *** RichK67 [~RichK67@194.164.100.143] has joined #openttd 00:21:59 *** elmex [~elmex@e180064028.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:22:57 <Sacro> hey RichK67! 00:26:11 <RichK67> hi sacro 00:26:31 *** skidd13 [~skidd13@p548A6B27.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #openttd [] 00:26:58 <RichK67> major league committage about to happen on newgrf_ports :) 00:29:37 <Sacro> ooh nice, what kinda new stuffs? 00:30:37 <RichK67> commuter airport is now loaded from newgrf, and the newgrf FSM works - helis and a/c fly!!! :) 00:31:03 <Sacro> oooh 00:31:12 <Sacro> does that mean i can make a new airport? 00:31:25 <RichK67> yup - with whatever graphics you want 00:32:09 <Sacro> ooh, fun 00:32:10 <Smoovious> a slingshot with a ramp 00:32:13 <RichK67> ok, there are some minor glitches... cant save it, being one ;) 00:32:32 <RichK67> thats next on the list 00:37:23 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: richk * r10738 /branches/NewGRF_ports/ (17 files in 4 dirs): 00:37:23 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: [NewGRF_ports] -Feature: FSMblockmap class added. Basic FSM import complete. 00:37:23 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: Need to handle multiple blocks on import. Aircraft controller recoded to work 00:37:23 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: with new 128 bit blocks. Still need to write saveload for new blocks. 00:37:23 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rb_airport2.grf updated. Commuter airport FSM working. 00:39:18 <Smoovious> yeah, saving would be good 00:40:45 <Sacro> :o 00:40:52 <Sacro> FLYING SPAGHETTI MONSTER 00:41:11 <Smoovious> oh, you've seen my rail interchanges! 00:46:20 <Phazorx> hmm... no idea what FSM is 00:46:29 <Phazorx> any info on that on wiki? 00:46:57 <RichK67> only the briefest of descriptions on the wiki 00:47:15 <Phazorx> RichK67: can you enlighten me plz ? 00:47:39 <Smoovious> at least what the acronym means? 00:47:46 <RichK67> the newFSMports branch is where im developing the ability to load in custom designed (air/sea/road)ports 00:48:03 <Rubidium> FSM => finite state machine 00:48:05 <RichK67> FSM = finite state machine... the thing that moves the vehicles around 00:48:08 <Smoovious> ty 00:48:37 <Smoovious> yeah, having a nice long loading dock would be great for trucks 00:49:19 <Phazorx> hmm... a different managing technique for aitports i can see a point fo that 00:49:46 <Phazorx> since on ground planes avoid visual collisions, but for ships/rvs cant really see where that comes handy 00:49:50 <RichK67> im itching to design a dockyard with multiple loading docks 00:50:15 <Phazorx> and are they treated as different platfroms in RR station? 00:50:18 <Phazorx> or just an eyecandy? 00:51:02 <Phazorx> it would be coll to have dedicated dock per cargo type tho 00:51:05 <RichK67> far more active than a RR station... 00:51:14 <Phazorx> makes great scense to me at least 00:53:52 <Phazorx> will that SM allow to select a manager model for airports, like reassigning slots to different vehicle types, changing queuing, or general routing withing? 00:56:04 <RichK67> you would be able to code a lot of that within the .grf file, but it is *complicated* :) 01:05:31 <Phazorx> you should see current openrrdcoop game with 6lane one way tracks and 1500 trains on it, that is complicated :) 01:05:42 <Phazorx> but all just set of basic elementsd 01:06:04 <Phazorx> which is probably how grf work would be...r ather tidious than complex 01:06:27 <Rubidium> FSMs get complex pretty easily 01:06:30 <Phazorx> and i'm just wondering what exactl FSM will allow to be done... what features/perks etc 01:07:10 <Rubidium> FSMs are for controlling vehicle movement within the "station" 01:07:37 <Rubidium> it basically makes sure you can efficiently route vehicles in the station without getting deadlocks (if coded correctly that is) 01:07:37 <Phazorx> i figured that, but will a player has a choice of preset models 01:07:44 <Phazorx> or will be able to build one? 01:08:03 <Rubidium> as preset as they are in the grf 01:08:25 <Phazorx> swicth between? 01:08:46 <Rubidium> huh? 01:09:11 <glx> for the user it will be like current airports, but you can have more possible layout (depending on the grf coders) 01:09:26 <Phazorx> say there is international airport, 4 landing strips, 6 plane slots 2 chopper slots 01:09:29 <Rubidium> oh, and you can rotate the airports though 01:09:41 <Rubidium> Phazorx: if you load the grf that has them 01:09:57 *** Bjarni [~Bjarni@0x50a4166f.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:10:03 <glx> you can have "holes" in the airport too 01:10:08 <Phazorx> what if there will be one that turns off landingstrips or reassingls them to be 2in 2 out rather than pait og in/ou on each side, etc ? 01:10:35 <Phazorx> so... not on a fly onyl as parameter or different grf set ? 01:10:54 <Phazorx> glx: i see 01:11:17 <Phazorx> i was under impression aside of rotation this is how its done now 01:11:33 <Phazorx> GRFs define fucntionality. timing, quieing, slot exchange order wtc 01:11:51 <glx> yes it defines the FSM 01:12:09 <glx> and the layout 01:12:36 <Phazorx> so i guess FSM framework is more comprehensive than hardcoded as it was ? 01:17:39 <Rubidium> I fail to interpret what you mean 01:19:16 <RichK67> system is mainly designed to provide a way of updating / adding new ports/airports etc without having to recode the core 01:20:08 <Phazorx> Rubidium: currently GRFs define how airports work, entirely i presume... with FSM it is still only up to grfs to define functionality... so what exactly would change is user experience? 01:20:21 <RichK67> side benefits are more flexible graphics, rotating airports, asymmetrical airports, etc. 01:20:34 <glx> [03:09:15] <+glx> for the user it will be like current airports, but you can have more possible layout (depending on the grf coders) 01:20:35 <Rubidium> Phazorx: currently as in trunk or newgrf_ports? 01:20:46 <RichK67> all current OTTD airports are 100% hardcoded 01:20:48 <Phazorx> in trunk i guess 01:21:00 <Phazorx> RichK67: in code or grf? 01:21:06 <RichK67> code 01:21:13 <Phazorx> ahh 01:21:15 <Phazorx> i see 01:21:18 <Rubidium> Phazorx: there are no newgrf coded airports yet 01:21:20 <Phazorx> now it makes sense :) 01:21:25 <Rubidium> (in trunk that is) 01:21:29 <RichK67> well, one ;) 01:21:45 <RichK67> and it doesnt quite work ;) 01:28:03 <Rubidium> anyway, I'm going to sleep 01:28:03 *** lugo 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#openttd 10:44:15 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1D223.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 10:52:03 *** skidd13 [~skidd13@p548A671D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 11:03:03 *** smoovi [smoovi@e178223159.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 11:03:22 *** smoovi [smoovi@e178223159.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:04:02 *** smoovi [smoovi@e178223159.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 11:24:57 *** Nickman [~chatzilla@ALyon-156-1-20-228.w86-216.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #openttd 11:25:31 <Nickman> TrueBrain: you here? :) 11:26:31 <TrueBrain> strangly enough, I am :) 11:27:15 <Nickman> cool :) 11:27:21 <Nickman> you read my message yesterday? 11:27:27 <Nickman> and the day before :D 11:27:47 <TrueBrain> doubtful 11:27:59 <TrueBrain> I did read something about you having troubles building things :p 11:28:05 <Nickman> yeah :D 11:28:13 <Nickman> I can't seem to be able to build drive trough bus stops 11:28:26 <Nickman> then I changes my code a bit to make it non drive trough and that works 11:28:45 <Nickman> so, I'm guessing something is going wrong with the BuildRoadStation function? 11:29:26 <TrueBrain> doubtful, as the regression passes 11:29:44 <TrueBrain> do you build it in the right direction? 11:29:45 <Nickman> my old code is in the NoAI post on the forums, maybe you could take a look or try it? :) 11:30:05 <TrueBrain> if you want me to look at it, you need to make me a test case 11:30:28 <TrueBrain> but try around a bit, different directions, different param values 11:30:32 <TrueBrain> and check if it helps a bit 11:30:41 <TrueBrain> bugs are always possible of course 11:31:12 <Nickman> what do you mean with the direction? 11:31:21 <Nickman> it is just a neighbouring road tile... 11:31:43 <Nickman> I checke the two tiles ingame and it would be perfectly buildable 11:31:50 <TrueBrain> but are you sure a drive through can be built on it? 11:31:58 <TrueBrain> (in that direction) 11:32:47 <Nickman> should I test that by building it myself? 11:32:55 <TrueBrain> for example 11:33:00 <TrueBrain> as now I think of it 11:33:03 <dihedral> Brianetta: whats that two-sided one supposed to mean? 11:33:10 <TrueBrain> most likely the patch that allows building them on town road is disabled 11:33:17 <dihedral> hello TrueBrain 11:33:17 <Brianetta> di-hedral 11:33:25 <dihedral> oh - yeah -sure 11:33:26 <dihedral> ... 11:33:48 <dihedral> always forget the meaning of the name ^^ 11:33:49 <Brianetta> perhaps two faced would have been more accurate (: 11:34:07 <Brianetta> etymologically, you understand 11:34:08 <dihedral> actually it mainly describs the upward angle of wings 11:34:17 <Brianetta> yes - two faces 11:34:23 <Brianetta> rather than one monohedron 11:34:27 <Nickman> So I might need to enable a patch setting TrueBrain , I'll take a look 11:34:30 <dihedral> the downward angle would be anhedral 11:34:37 <Brianetta> and a dodecahedral surface has 12 faces 11:34:39 <Gekko> dihedral is sexy 11:34:44 * Gekko nods 11:34:47 <TrueBrain> Nickman: if something fails, try doing it yourself first ;) 11:34:54 * dihedral runs for his life 11:34:57 <Nickman> :D 11:35:02 <Brianetta> so 11:35:07 <Brianetta> dihedral is two faced 11:35:10 <Brianetta> it's official 11:35:29 * dihedral turns to his other face - both nod ^^ 11:35:35 <Gekko> Two is one plus one! 11:35:39 * Brianetta browses the eBay calculators category 11:35:52 <Gekko> or 2(2^0) 11:35:59 <dihedral> gekko - no offence - but sometimes i really believe you aint doing that on purpose 11:36:02 <Brianetta> One day, somebody's going to sell an old HP RPN calculator, and they're going to mis-describe it, and they're not going to know it's worth a lot 11:36:07 <Brianetta> and I'll get one for pennies 11:36:10 <Brianetta> one day 11:36:14 <Gekko> dihedral: keep believing that 11:36:20 <Gekko> keeps life interesting 11:36:28 <Gekko> fucked up - yes, but interesting 11:36:38 *** Wezz6400 [~Wezz6400@ndb.demon.nl] has joined #openttd 11:36:44 <dihedral> Brianetta: perhaps you'll find one on a jumble sale 11:36:56 <TrueBrain> welcome Wezz6400 11:37:01 <Brianetta> dihedral: I would, if I ever actually saw a jumble sale 11:37:10 *** raimar2 [~hawk@p5489EBF4.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 11:37:13 <Nickman> It was disabled indeed TrueBrain :D, I didn't even know that setting existed :D 11:37:13 <Wezz6400> hi TrueBrain :) 11:37:17 <Brianetta> It's remarkable how infrequently they happen in the centre of a city 11:37:29 <Nickman> thx, I'll try my code again in a while :) 11:37:35 <Nickman> now lunch :D 11:37:39 <TrueBrain> Nickman: and too bad for you, the AI can't cheat, and has to follow game logic like any other player 11:37:48 <dihedral> Brianetta: they appear quite often in london-richmond 11:37:56 <Brianetta> I want to see, "Pocket calculator. Doesn't work properly, no equals button. Buy it now: £2" 11:37:58 <Gekko> TrueBrain: it can randomly terraform for free! 11:38:04 <Gekko> and it abuses that right >_> 11:38:06 <TrueBrain> Gekko: we do talk about NoAI 11:38:08 <TrueBrain> so: no 11:38:10 <Nickman> hehe 11:38:12 <Gekko> oh damn 11:38:14 <Gekko> you nazi 11:38:15 <Gekko> lol 11:38:22 <Nickman> Well, I'll get back to you when it works ;). 11:38:30 <dihedral> Gekko: to be quote honest i would not use that word 11:38:31 <Gekko> so how goes NoAI anyway 11:38:32 <TrueBrain> Nickman: and no time sooner :p 11:38:46 <Nickman> I would like function to get the name of a station, I could seem to find that? 11:38:47 <TrueBrain> Gekko: please do keep those words for yourself 11:38:53 <Gekko> Fine 11:39:00 <TrueBrain> Nickman: nice one, add it to the wiki page :) 11:39:00 <Gekko> How goes NoAI development? 11:39:05 <Nickman> :) 11:39:09 <TrueBrain> (AI:TODO, Talk) 11:39:20 <TrueBrain> Gekko: pretty good, first working Aircraft AI is up and running 11:39:24 <TrueBrain> Road and Ship is done too 11:39:25 <Gekko> I saw it 11:39:28 <Gekko> WrightAI 11:39:29 <TrueBrain> Rail has to be done 11:39:35 <TrueBrain> same as tunnel and some kind of pathfinder 11:39:43 <Gekko> Rail should be amusing 11:39:43 <dihedral> Brianetta: i once was at a richmond jumble and there were a few car boots and vans full of computer stuff 11:39:45 * Brianetta pounds it into the heads of eBayers 11:39:50 <Gekko> will it have selectable stupidity? 11:39:51 <Brianetta> The Casio FX-83 IS NOT RARE 11:40:07 <TrueBrain> Brianetta: thatone is: it is working! :p 11:40:14 <Brianetta> It's been in constant production for over 20 years and is available new for under a fiver 11:40:17 <Gekko> TrueBrain: add an "Artificial Stupidity" settingm 11:40:18 <dihedral> Gekko: just because you have, does not mean the ai has to 11:40:22 <Gekko> make it put stations in the wilderness 11:40:26 <Gekko> and connect them 11:40:27 <Gekko> :P 11:40:44 <dihedral> Gekko needs a friend that plays just like he does 11:40:56 <Gekko> lol 11:41:01 <Gekko> I play 128 x 128 maps 11:41:04 <Gekko> with 4 people and 4 towns 11:41:05 <Gekko> >_> 11:41:05 <TrueBrain> Gekko: it will have a mode where it kills your company, where ever you join, which ever server you play on, even single player: the AI will join and kill your company 11:41:21 <Gekko> TrueBrain: stop mockerising me >_>! 11:41:31 <Wezz6400> lol _O- 11:41:31 <TrueBrain> why? 11:41:35 <dihedral> Gekko: you are actually calling for it 11:41:41 <Gekko> lol 11:41:48 <dihedral> no... aint really funny 11:42:06 <Gekko> I'm barely paying attention 11:42:06 <dihedral> you hardly do anything else but shout "here is me - need a beating" 11:42:16 <Gekko> Really? 11:42:18 <dihedral> aye 11:42:23 <Gekko> no seriously? 11:42:24 <Gekko> lol 11:43:04 <Gekko> gtg 11:43:06 *** Gekko [~Gekkko@CPE-124-183-12-152.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Quit: http://bbqsrc.org - Now less gay.] 11:44:20 *** raimar3 [~hawk@p5489D5CD.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:46:40 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-84-227-157-44.adslplus.ch] has joined #openttd 11:49:24 *** skidd13 [~skidd13@p548A671D.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #openttd [] 11:50:42 *** procool [~procool@87.240.28.199] has joined #openttd 11:50:50 <procool> hi all! 11:50:50 *** Ammller [~Ammler@adsl-84-227-157-44.adslplus.ch] has joined #openttd 11:50:56 <TrueBrain> welcome procool 11:51:04 <procool> thanks:) 11:51:26 <procool> i have a little quastion to you, can i ask? 11:51:32 <TrueBrain> no 11:51:51 <procool> why? 11:52:04 <TrueBrain> haha :) Always just ask your question :) 11:52:14 <TrueBrain> As asking if you can ask one, is already a question :p 11:52:31 <procool> but you sad "no", .. 11:52:47 <TrueBrain> I say a lot :' 11:52:54 <procool> ok, i undestand.. 11:53:16 <Wezz6400> he's just kidding 11:53:27 <TrueBrain> doh, busted :) 11:53:34 <Wezz6400> he's a programmer therefore he has a weird sence of humour ;) 11:54:05 <TrueBrain> there is nothing wrong with my humor :p 11:54:14 <Wezz6400> I didn't say that :P 11:54:18 <TrueBrain> true true :) 11:54:35 <procool> do you know about openttd servers list? how can i add my server to this list? i don't see any registration, and when i start my game how a network internet game, on another computer i don't see my server at the servers list 11:54:42 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-84-227-157-44.adslplus.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:54:43 <Wezz6400> besides, my sence of humor is much, much more weird 11:55:02 <Brianetta> procool: Your server will automatically attempt to add itself to the list 11:55:06 <TrueBrain> procool: if you run a Internet game and enable Advertising 11:55:17 <Brianetta> If the master server can't reach your server, however, it won't list your server. 11:55:17 <TrueBrain> it will be added to the server list, if and only if the game is reachable from the outside world 11:55:20 <procool> but i all ready do is 11:55:22 <procool> it 11:55:30 <TrueBrain> (so make sure you have the correct ports open in your firewall/NAT/router) 11:55:33 <TrueBrain> !openttd port 11:55:34 <_42_> TrueBrain: OpenTTD uses TCP and UDP port 3979 for server <-> client communication and UDP port 3978 for masterserver (advsertise) communication (outbound) 11:56:13 <procool> 3978? i don't know about it.. 11:56:17 <procool> thanks:) 11:56:29 <TrueBrain> it is only outbound, is mostly allowed by all software 11:57:03 <TrueBrain> 3979 is much more important 11:58:28 <procool> i have a getway, on PF firewall.. i open 3979, start game, and don't see my server at servers list.. so, i'l try to connect to my server from another computer in internet, - connect to ip and port, and game started normaly, so server is worked 11:59:38 <TrueBrain> are you sure you opened UDP too? 11:59:42 <Brianetta> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250149555155 11:59:45 <Brianetta> RPN calculator (: 12:00:05 <Brianetta> "Belonged to my dad so don't know much about it. Full working order in nice condition." 12:00:31 <Brianetta> Well, johnny-orange, if you knew that these went for £80 new *or* used, you'd have listed it at more than 99 pence... 12:00:44 <procool> TrueBrain: yes, i'm shure 12:00:54 <TrueBrain> Brianetta: you finally found one :p 12:00:59 <Brianetta> Yeah 12:01:06 <Brianetta> mad, huh? 12:01:13 <Brianetta> Trouble is, it was an easy find 12:01:15 <Brianetta> and I won't get it 12:01:16 <TrueBrain> :) It sure is ;) 12:01:35 <procool> rdr on $lan1_if proto { tcp, udp } from any to $lan1_if port { 3979 3978 } -> $openttdserver 12:01:38 <procool> :) 12:01:42 <Brianetta> I'm not really all that worked up about the 12C anyway 12:01:46 <TrueBrain> procool: make sure advertising is on 12:01:47 <Brianetta> It's a finance calculator 12:02:00 <Brianetta> and has some great interest functions, bot not many that I'd find useful 12:02:06 <TrueBrain> procool: check http://servers.openttd.org and see if you really aren't listed 12:02:34 <TrueBrain> procool: make sure you didn't ban communication to or from that url :p 12:03:00 <procool> TrueBrain: on starting server, i select Internet(advertising), and so.. 12:03:16 <procool> ban communication? what is it? 12:03:53 <TrueBrain> maybe you banned the IP :p 12:04:01 *** skidd13 [~skidd13@p548A671D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 12:04:12 <procool> how can i test it 12:04:14 <procool> ? 12:04:34 <TrueBrain> if you can open the url above, it should be fine :p 12:05:18 <TrueBrain> grr, I try to run a simple Visual Studio update, but it takes FOR EVER! 12:05:44 *** Nickman [~chatzilla@ALyon-156-1-20-228.w86-216.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:06:09 <Brianetta> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260144935517 12:06:11 <Brianetta> I want this 12:06:15 <Brianetta> but I can't afford one 12:06:19 <procool> i see this page, from my ip.. 12:06:33 <procool> please, try to see - 87.240.28.199 12:07:22 *** procool [~procool@87.240.28.199] has quit [Quit: using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.12] 12:08:46 *** procool [~procool@87.240.28.199] has joined #openttd 12:09:01 <TrueBrain> procool: that IP even never TRIED to register itself to the masterserver 12:09:05 <procool> soory, my client has been disconneted from irc 12:09:17 <TrueBrain> (as in: no package ever arrived at the masterserver) 12:10:17 *** Nickman [~chatzilla@ALyon-156-1-20-228.w86-216.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #openttd 12:10:27 *** alex_ [~joe@62-249-237-101.no-dns-yet.enta.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:11:05 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 12:11:06 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 12:11:06 <procool> i don't understand.. how it can be? port is enable, internet game started, .. pf setuped, .. what's happned? 12:11:43 <Nickman> TrueBrain: could you give me a link to the "todo" page for NoAI on the wiki? I can't seem to find it... 12:11:52 <Wezz6400> are the settings in openttd.cfg correct procool? 12:11:58 <TrueBrain> procool: no idea 12:12:01 <TrueBrain> Nickman: AI:TODO 12:12:14 <Nickman> just found it :p lol 12:12:22 <Nickman> I was searching for NoAI Todo :D 12:12:23 <Nickman> thx ;) 12:12:26 <TrueBrain> :) 12:14:22 <procool> <Wezz6400> what settings you meen? i understand that network... server_name, server_port, pause_on_join, max_join_time, .. 12:14:40 <procool> server_bind_ip = 0.0.0.0 12:14:49 <procool> o! server_advertise = true 12:14:54 <procool> lan_internet = 1 12:16:48 <procool> may be, i don't know something... 12:17:32 *** Smoovious [~imp486@c-71-205-140-67.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 12:19:17 *** alex_ [~joe@62-249-237-101.no-dns-yet.enta.net] has joined #openttd 12:23:17 <procool> <Wezz6400>, so, you havn't any idea too? 12:24:06 *** Ammlller [~Ammler@adsl-89-217-33-148.adslplus.ch] has joined #openttd 12:24:32 *** Zaviori [~asdsad@d195-237-7-209.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 12:25:04 <Gekko[PDA]> openttd on solaris? 12:25:07 <Eddi|zuHause> procool: maybe you misdirected/blocked outgoing traffic through those ports? 12:25:43 <TrueBrain> Gekko[PDA]: runs nicely, yes 12:26:33 <Gekko[PDA]> TrueBrain: you use it? 12:26:36 <TrueBrain> no 12:26:51 *** roboman [~Leo@c211-30-60-34.carlnfd4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:26:54 <Gekko[PDA]> lol 12:27:02 <Gekko[PDA]> how do you know then? 12:27:12 <TrueBrain> as for i386 solaris we create nightlies 12:27:14 <procool> <Eddi|zuHause>, no.. it is a normal real ip address, without any blocks 12:28:04 *** Ammller [~Ammler@adsl-84-227-157-44.adslplus.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:28:33 <Eddi|zuHause> you should not use < > around nicks 12:28:44 <procool> Eddi|zuHause, ok, sorry 12:29:17 <Eddi|zuHause> only when you quote that person (i.e. copy-paste his sentence) 12:29:25 <blathijs> procool: The standard way is just the nickname followed by ":", as I just did 12:29:36 <dihedral> Brianetta: how are preperations coming along? 12:29:51 <blathijs> procool: Most IRC clients can even do that for you, by typing the first few letters of a nick and then press tab 12:30:24 <Eddi|zuHause> procool: like i just typed "p<tab>" 12:30:44 <procool> blathijs, i see, .. ok, thank you 12:30:47 <TrueBrain> works even in OpenTTD :) 12:30:50 *** Zavior [~asdsad@d195-237-7-209.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:30:56 <Eddi|zuHause> procool: or just "<tab>" and it uses the last name i completed that way 12:31:10 *** ThePizzaKing [~jeff@c211-28-155-84.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Quit: ThePizzaKing] 12:31:21 <procool> Eddi|zuHause, worked:) 12:31:44 * procool thinking about his server problem... 12:32:32 <dihedral> TrueBrain: how is squirrel advancing for the ottd console? 12:32:47 <TrueBrain> First NoAI needs to be finished before even considering that :) 12:32:57 <TrueBrain> but NoAI in fact is hitting completion 12:33:05 <TrueBrain> or rather: initial release 12:33:22 <TrueBrain> the TODO list is getting smaller and smaller :) 12:33:25 <Eddi|zuHause> "if it compiles, ship it" :p 12:34:15 *** JazzyJaffa [~ben@fwnat-pub-1.physics.ox.ac.uk] has joined #openttd 12:34:16 <Gekko[PDA]> - B. Gates 12:34:52 <Eddi|zuHause> i don't know who to actually credit for this quote 12:35:09 <procool> Eddi|zuHause, how you can see that my ip address never used, mmm.. never connected to openttd.org/servers.php ? 12:35:41 <Eddi|zuHause> procool: i can't, but TrueBrain runs the masterserver, he has special access 12:35:43 *** Tino|R152 [Tino@52N.UNI-MUENSTER.DE] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 12:36:11 <procool> Eddi|zuHause, what is it - masterserver? 12:36:45 <Eddi|zuHause> masterserver is the server that controls all servers... the site that you mentioned above 12:37:38 <procool> mmm, i see... 12:38:09 <Priski> actually, it just gathers information on all server that send it info 12:39:05 <procool> i understand, thanks 12:39:05 <Eddi|zuHause> that is, what the people should believe :p 12:39:06 <Priski> i don't think that ottd masterserver has power to shutdown or do anything else to someones server 12:40:03 <procool> TrueBrain, are you game developer 12:40:04 <Eddi|zuHause> he who controls the access to information controls the information itself 12:40:05 <procool> ? 12:40:22 <procool> :))))) 12:40:30 <Eddi|zuHause> [Google] 12:41:06 <procool> sweet word:) 12:41:09 <Priski> /whois TrueBrain TrueBrain should tell the answer 12:42:35 <procool> SVN, master-server, and website host... 12:43:07 <procool> always "true" 12:43:18 <procool> :) 12:46:10 <procool> so.. i try to debug now... 12:48:48 <procool> may be next debug strings say to you something? please, help me... 12:48:50 <procool> dbg: [NET] Listening on 0.0.0.0:3979 12:48:50 <procool> dbg: [NET][UDP] Listening on port 0.0.0.0:3979 12:48:50 <procool> dbg: [NET][UDP] Listening on port 0.0.0.0:0 12:48:50 <procool> dbg: [NET] Resolved master.openttd.org to 81.171.98.111 12:48:50 <procool> dbg: [NET][UDP] Advertising to master server 12:48:52 <procool> dbg: Loading sprite set 0. 12:48:52 <procool> dbg: Reading indexed grf-file ``TRG1R.GRF'' 12:49:12 <procool> is it something wrong in this debug? 12:49:38 <Gekko[PDA]> no? 12:50:04 <Noldo> can you ping the masterserver? 12:50:27 <procool> [procool@topr ~]$ ping 81.171.98.111 12:50:27 <procool> PING 81.171.98.111" target="_blank">81.171.98.111 (81.171.98.111" target="_blank">81.171.98.111): 56 data bytes 12:50:27 <procool> 64 bytes from 81.171.98.111: icmp_seq=0 ttl=50 time=71.465 ms 12:50:27 <procool> 64 bytes from 81.171.98.111: icmp_seq=1 ttl=50 time=69.268 ms 12:51:42 <Noldo> yes would have been enough 12:51:42 <ln-> ops 12:52:16 <Brianetta> dihedral: Not badly 12:52:26 <Noldo> traceroute that uses udp would be the next interesting thing 12:54:11 <procool> Noldo, Yess... you right.. 12:54:36 <procool> $ traceroute -n 81.171.98.111 12:54:36 <procool> traceroute to 81.171.98.111" target="_blank">81.171.98.111 (81.171.98.111" target="_blank">81.171.98.111), 64 hops max, 40 byte packets 12:54:36 <procool> 1 169.254.0.1 0.340 ms 0.354 ms 0.560 ms 12:54:36 <procool> 2 87.240.28.193 0.762 ms 0.741 ms 0.631 ms 12:54:36 <procool> 3 * * * 12:54:38 <procool> 4 * * * 12:54:38 <procool> 5 * * * 12:54:40 <procool> 6 * * * 12:54:44 <procool> 7 213.85.171.118 2.800 ms 2.970 ms 3.396 ms 12:54:46 <procool> 8 213.85.171.117 2.666 ms 2.792 ms 2.777 ms 12:54:48 <procool> 9 195.161.2.69 3.380 ms 3.238 ms 2.876 ms 12:54:50 <procool> 10 195.66.224.227 60.884 ms 60.725 ms 60.459 ms 12:54:52 <procool> 11 81.171.102.197 72.286 ms 72.744 ms 76.119 ms 12:54:54 <procool> 12 81.171.73.138 110.402 ms 69.458 ms 69.862 ms 12:54:56 <procool> 13 81.171.98.111 69.183 ms 69.359 ms 69.319 ms 12:54:57 <Brianetta> OK 12:55:03 <Brianetta> enough 12:57:05 <ln-> where are the ops? 12:57:14 <Brianetta> I'm one 12:57:28 <ln-> ok, kick him already, please. 12:58:03 <Brianetta> procool: WHen you paste stuff, paste it into private messages, please 12:58:12 *** Wezz6400 [~Wezz6400@ndb.demon.nl] has quit [Quit: bbl] 12:58:23 <procool> Brianetta, ok, sorry, i don't know about it 12:58:30 <procool> now i know:) 12:58:32 <dihedral> is that 'please' not redundant? :-) 12:58:46 <Brianetta> dihedral: Not really 12:58:56 <Brianetta> He's free to disobey 12:59:07 <Brianetta> It's just that I'm also free to power up and go mental 12:59:08 <dihedral> appart from helping to making it sound more like its a friendly hint 12:59:40 <dihedral> other than a note that has consequenses if disobeyed 13:00:17 *** [gen2]niki [~niki@p5090AED0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 13:00:40 <Brianetta> I'm a patient man 13:00:43 *** skidd13 [~skidd13@p548A671D.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #openttd [] 13:00:43 <dihedral> how hard would it be to add 'copy to clipboard' functionality to the ingame console? 13:01:01 <Brianetta> dihedral: In a cross-platform manner, insanely hard. For any given OS, less hard. 13:01:22 <Noldo> sdl doesn't have such thing? 13:01:24 <Brianetta> I think Windows clipboard support is already in, but I can't test that since I don't run it 13:01:28 <dihedral> and pasting is less hard in cross platfrom manner? 13:01:39 <dihedral> i know that pasting works 13:01:57 <dihedral> though highlighting and copying out does not... at least since i last tried 13:02:05 <dihedral> *when 13:02:08 <Ammlller> in windows, you are able to paste password 13:02:21 <Brianetta> in X, you can't paste 13:02:27 <dihedral> k 13:02:53 <hylje> different systems paste differently 13:02:58 * Brianetta chomps a yummy Granola bar 13:05:36 <dihedral> another thought - a shared ban list ? for multiple games hosted on the same hardware or via the masterserver if participating is set in the config? 13:07:35 * Brianetta bids on a calculatrix 13:07:47 *** Nickman [~chatzilla@ALyon-156-1-20-228.w86-216.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:08:28 <dihedral> you found one then? 13:10:08 <[gen2]niki> is there any date for 0.6 alphas? i mean newindustries is in working query for months now... is it really a such big thing? 13:10:49 <glx> yes it is a big thing 13:10:59 <glx> and it is not finished yet 13:11:08 <dihedral> 0.6 alphas are available at openttd.org/nightly 13:11:10 <dihedral> ^^ 13:11:36 <[gen2]niki> well maybe, something stable would be nicer xD + i cant get nightlies running on my rootserver, whyever. 13:11:49 <dihedral> sinse when are alpha releases stable releases? 13:12:19 <procool> Noldo, I have see the traffic, incomming and outgoing from my openttd server.. so - it try to register on master.openttd.org but not recieved any answer from it.. it send register information, i see it on getway, .. but it don't get any answer from it 13:12:24 <[gen2]niki> more stable than nightlies 13:12:25 <[gen2]niki> ;p 13:12:32 <[gen2]niki> brb lunch 13:13:31 <Priski> devs are doing their work as much they can, and nightlies arent really supposed to be the most stable release, sort fo they are testversions of future releases 13:13:44 <Priski> fo->of 13:13:47 <Brianetta> Not quite 13:14:01 <Brianetta> They're what the current development version happens to be at 8pm 13:15:15 <Priski> I did not mean literally 13:16:13 <Priski> and no, they are not actually testversions, some branch releases are more like that 13:32:16 <procool> ok, i found my bug.. in my /dev/hands :( in one of the rules in my Pocket Filter Firewall i set only tcp packets, but don't set the udp packets mapping... 13:32:16 <Eddi|zuHause> nightlys are not releases 13:32:41 <procool> thank you for try to halping my:) 13:33:11 <procool> me 13:33:18 <procool> :)) 13:34:51 <procool> yes!! worked!:) 13:38:32 <procool> why only ten clients can play? 13:39:49 <Eddi|zuHause> because! 13:41:31 <procool> hm... understand... 13:44:05 <alex_> 10 is the max 13:44:16 <alex_> feel free is programme an extension 13:46:38 *** glx|away [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 13:46:39 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx|away] by ChanServ 13:48:38 *** glx is now known as Guest479 13:48:39 *** glx|away is now known as glx 13:52:20 *** Guest479 [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:07:01 *** Wezz6400 [~Wezz6400@ndb.demon.nl] has joined #openttd 14:07:42 <Wezz6400> ahoy ;) 14:11:30 *** lolman [~lolman@cpc3-leds2-0-0-cust55.leed.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:11:59 *** Nickman [~chatzilla@ALyon-156-1-20-228.w86-216.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #openttd 14:15:01 *** HMage [Queneex@hmage.dialup.corbina.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:18:06 *** ThomasNL [~thomas@vdburgt.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 14:18:06 *** Thomas[NL] [~thomas@vdburgt.xs4all.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:21:48 *** Ammller [~Ammler@adsl-89-217-33-148.adslplus.ch] has joined #openttd 14:25:26 *** Ammlller [~Ammler@adsl-89-217-33-148.adslplus.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:26:07 *** Darkebie [~dkb@d5153D5CD.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 14:32:20 *** JazzyJaffa [~ben@fwnat-pub-1.physics.ox.ac.uk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:38:03 *** JazzyJaffa [~ben@fwnat-pub-1.physics.ox.ac.uk] has joined #openttd 14:42:41 *** lolman [~lolman@cpc3-leds2-0-0-cust55.leed.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 14:49:36 *** skidd13 [~skidd13@p548A6A21.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 14:50:44 <alex_> anyone avialable to do a quick test for me 14:50:49 <alex_> on one of my openttd servers 14:50:56 <alex_> will only take a 1min 14:54:56 <dihedral> is a udp query enough ^^ 14:55:15 <dihedral> as in a openttdlib query ^^ 14:56:09 <Nickman> TrueBrain? :D 14:58:06 *** skidd13 [~skidd13@p548A6A21.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #openttd [] 14:58:52 <dihedral> let's all ask for TrueBrain ^^ 14:59:06 <alex_> TrueBrain? :D 14:59:11 <Nickman> lol :p 14:59:25 <Nickman> I added my comment to the AI:TODO page ;) 15:00:06 <dihedral> @seen TrueBrain 15:00:07 <DorpsGek> dihedral: TrueBrain was last seen in #openttd 2 hours, 26 minutes, and 43 seconds ago: <TrueBrain> the TODO list is getting smaller and smaller :) 15:00:32 <dihedral> !seen TrueBrain 15:00:32 <_42_> dihedral, if you can't see TrueBrain here right now, you probably need new glasses. ^_^ 15:01:08 <dihedral> !seen RealLife 15:01:09 <_42_> dihedral, RealLife? hmm... I'm trying to remember... maybe... I'm not sure... no. I don't remember RealLife. 15:01:21 <dihedral> who needs glasses 15:02:02 * dihedral grins from one ear to the other 15:02:20 <dihedral> cut 'em off and i'll grin once round ^^ 15:04:17 *** Deathmaker [~Miranda@dslb-082-083-231-020.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 15:07:16 <dihedral> so alex_ is a openttdlib query sufficient or do you need a ingame test? 15:10:56 <TrueBrain> @kick dihedral not unexpected 15:10:56 *** dihedral was kicked from #openttd by DorpsGek [not unexpected] 15:10:59 <TrueBrain> @kick Nickman not unexpected 15:10:59 *** Nickman was kicked from #openttd by DorpsGek [not unexpected] 15:11:02 <TrueBrain> @kick alex_ not unexpected 15:11:03 *** alex_ was kicked from #openttd by DorpsGek [not unexpected] 15:11:11 <TrueBrain> I feel so much better now :) 15:11:53 * Wezz6400 aait TrueBrain 15:11:55 <Wezz6400> easy now 15:14:11 *** Nickman [~chatzilla@ALyon-156-1-20-228.w86-216.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #openttd 15:14:28 <Nickman> why was I kicked? 15:15:51 <TrueBrain> unneeded call for my attention :p 15:16:15 *** dihedral [~nathanael@joshua.dihedral.de] has joined #openttd 15:16:18 <dihedral> thanks TrueBrain 15:16:24 <TrueBrain> sure, np :) 15:16:38 <dihedral> i'll come back to you if i need one again ^^ 15:17:00 *** Ammller [~Ammler@adsl-89-217-33-148.adslplus.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:22:16 *** alex_ [~joe@62-249-237-101.no-dns-yet.enta.net] has joined #openttd 15:22:18 <alex_> :) 15:22:44 <alex_> i need someone to jump on one of my servers, and i just want to check how quickly the map downloads 15:23:46 <alex_> 78.86.15.85:4024 15:23:47 <alex_> please 15:23:56 <alex_> dihedral, can you? 15:25:06 <Eddi|zuHause> i'm not sure if my tiny excuse of a garden hose that they call a "broadband connection" suffices as a stress test for a server :p 15:25:30 <Eddi|zuHause> plus, i probably do not have your version anyway 15:26:07 <Nickman> Do I need to add my wanted functions to the TODO list to, or only to the "talk" page? 15:26:46 <Eddi|zuHause> i'm quite confident that one instance of a request is enough :p 15:31:18 <TrueBrain> Nickman: you can't add them to the real page :p 15:31:55 <Nickman> then I'm done :D lol :p 15:32:51 <dihedral> alex_: unfort i am at work - hence i asked if the udp query would be enough ^^ 15:34:31 <dihedral> but i cannot even reach your game with openttdlib 15:34:37 <dihedral> 78.86.15.85:4024 query timed out 15:37:25 <alex_> maybe your work is blocking that port 15:37:33 <alex_> i have 5 people on that server atm :) 15:37:46 *** Hendikins|Out is now known as Hendikins 15:37:50 <alex_> can anyone see how quickly: 78.86.15.85:4024 -> downloads the map? 15:38:09 <dihedral> i tested from my server, there aint no blocked ports 15:38:15 <dihedral> unless i block them 15:40:42 *** Frostregen_ [~sucks@dslb-084-058-167-235.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 15:41:06 <dihedral> TrueBrain: i have a question for you 15:41:40 <dihedral> people have asked if i could add a feature to openttdlib, to query the master server for a set of ip's and port numbers to query 15:41:50 <dihedral> but i dont think that is a good idea 15:42:21 <dihedral> just curious to know what you would say to that thought...? 15:45:08 *** Wezz6400 [~Wezz6400@ndb.demon.nl] has quit [Quit: reboot] 15:46:36 *** Frostregen [SADDAM@dslb-084-058-165-074.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:46:51 *** Frostregen_ is now known as Frostregen 15:48:32 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-193-46-fixip.tiscali.ch] has joined #openttd 15:50:42 *** Wezz6400 [~Wezz6400@ndb.demon.nl] has joined #openttd 15:54:24 *** lolman [~lolman@cpc3-leds2-0-0-cust55.leed.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:56:10 *** alex__ [~joe@62-249-237-101.no-dns-yet.enta.net] has joined #openttd 15:57:20 *** smoovi [smoovi@e178223159.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:02:58 *** HMage [HMage@hmage.dialup.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 16:03:18 *** lolman [~lolman@cpc3-leds2-0-0-cust55.leed.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 16:03:32 *** alex_ [~joe@62-249-237-101.no-dns-yet.enta.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:08:20 *** smoovi [smoovi@e178205087.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 16:09:35 *** Zr40 [~zr40@zr40.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 16:15:57 <Nickman> The drive trough roadstops now work TrueBrain ;) 16:16:11 *** BobingAbout [~BobingAbo@adsl-83-100-196-157.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 16:16:12 *** BobingAbout [~BobingAbo@adsl-83-100-196-157.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [] 16:17:32 <Nickman> Is it possible for me to make a list of stations and towntiles? 16:17:47 <Nickman> because in a List a key can only have one value? 16:19:07 <Nickman> or am I wrong? 16:20:28 *** [gen2]niki [~niki@p5090AED0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:22:00 *** Ailure [Gamefreak@194.47.44.201] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:25:42 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB7F80.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 16:26:54 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB7F80.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #openttd [] 16:32:12 <TrueBrain> I have no idea what you tried to ask Nickman 16:33:03 <Nickman> hehe :D 16:33:21 <Nickman> well, if I make a "List" object, I can add keys and values 16:33:37 <Nickman> but now I would like to make a list where the keys are town tiles 16:33:44 <Nickman> and the valeus are road stations 16:33:46 *** Bjarni [~Bjarni@0x535ca25f.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 16:33:47 *** mode/#openttd [+o Bjarni] by ChanServ 16:33:58 <Nickman> but one key would be able to have multiple values 16:34:12 *** Brianetta [~brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:34:14 <Nickman> I don't think that would work with the available "List" Objects? 16:37:16 *** Wezz6400 [~Wezz6400@ndb.demon.nl] has quit [Quit: until later, don't die (well not all of you)] 16:37:31 *** Sacro [~Ben@adsl-87-102-80-216.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 16:38:17 *** HMage [HMage@hmage.dialup.corbina.ru] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:38:28 * Bjarni slaps Sacro 16:39:03 *** dihedral [~nathanael@joshua.dihedral.de] has quit [Quit: leaving] 16:39:06 <Sacro> :o 16:39:17 *** dihedral [~dihedral@dslb-084-056-240-243.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 16:39:36 <Bjarni> odds are that you did something to deserve that since last time 16:40:21 * dihedral nods 16:40:36 <dihedral> he always deserves it ^^ 16:40:52 <dihedral> TrueBrain: you around? 16:40:55 <Bjarni> on top of that, he enjoys it >_< 16:41:02 * dihedral slaps Sacro 16:41:10 * Sacro rubs himself 16:41:16 <dihedral> i dont wanna know that 16:41:34 <dihedral> ^^ 16:41:39 <Bjarni> don't do that 16:41:51 <Bjarni> go somewhere private if you really want to do it 16:43:12 <TrueBrain> Nickman: a list that maps town tiles to road statiosn? How can there be multiple road stations on a single tile? That makes no sense to me... 16:43:42 <Nickman> no, I mean the center town tile, so I can acces them 16:44:06 <Nickman> I give a towntile (the one you get from the townlocation) and then I want to be able to get all the town stations from a list 16:44:16 <Nickman> those willa ll be different tiles 16:44:33 <dihedral> TrueBrain - what do you think of OpenTTDLib fetching ip's and ports from the master server to query? 16:44:46 <Bjarni> IP harvesting? 16:45:21 <hylje> you can go to irc harvest ips just fine 16:45:23 <TrueBrain> dihedral: bad idea, I see no reason for it 16:45:34 <TrueBrain> servers.openttd.org already lists all servers, no need for any other page to do the same 16:45:50 <dihedral> just wanted to check - was the same thing i said 16:46:03 <TrueBrain> Nickman: I see; the thing I will add to the API, is a function that shows all stations within town-radius, per town 16:46:10 <dihedral> no - it was a request by some guys 16:46:17 <TrueBrain> but no, you can't have all the towns and stations within town-radius in one list 16:46:45 <TrueBrain> dihedral: if someone can show me how it can be useful, I might change my mind; till then: sounds like a bad idea ;) 16:47:00 <dihedral> TrueBrain: fully agree 16:47:06 <Nickman> I have made a function myself wich checks all the tiles in a certain regean around the town :) 16:47:11 <dihedral> though i would know where it might make sense 16:47:35 <Nickman> but maybe there should be another type of list in wich you can map one key to multiple values? 16:47:45 <Nickman> that way you can make any list you want youreself? :) 16:47:48 <dihedral> say i make a webservice for others to use and use url get vars to determin host and port 16:48:12 <TrueBrain> Nickman: not in AI API 16:48:16 <dihedral> then checking if they are registered with the master server before simply sending udp packets would make sense 16:48:35 <Nickman> where then TrueBrain ? 16:48:37 <TrueBrain> dihedral: we can add a thing that checks if a pair of host and port are known to the MS 16:48:47 <TrueBrain> Nickman: dunno, in your local work copy? :p 16:48:58 <Nickman> My AI builds bus stations and let a bus run trough them :D 16:49:01 <Nickman> I'm happy :) 16:49:21 <dihedral> sounds nice TrueBrain but atm i am still working on getting newgrf data back ^^ 16:49:31 <TrueBrain> :) 16:49:38 <TrueBrain> Nickman: nice work :) 16:49:47 <TrueBrain> now I go and figure out how to make applications for my mobile phone.. 16:49:51 <Nickman> I'm getting the hang of Squirrel :) 16:49:55 <Nickman> hf :) 16:49:58 <TrueBrain> after installing 4 GiB of applications, it seems that I can start doing so... 16:50:03 <Nickman> haha :D 16:50:28 <Nickman> I'll try to make another List DataStructure and file in a patch or something when I get back home ;). 16:51:11 *** JazzyJaffa [~ben@fwnat-pub-1.physics.ox.ac.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:53:14 *** Nickman [~chatzilla@ALyon-156-1-20-228.w86-216.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:54:29 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@d51A43614.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 17:00:16 <Sacro> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=36&t=33401 <-- guess whose back, back again 17:04:02 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-193-46-fixip.tiscali.ch] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:05:51 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host163-229-dynamic.5-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 17:06:32 <Wolf01> hello 17:07:03 <Noldo> hello 17:08:21 <|Jeroen|> hello 17:10:35 *** HMage [HMage@hmage.dialup.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 17:10:56 *** glx|away [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 17:10:57 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx|away] by ChanServ 17:11:42 *** glx is now known as Guest485 17:11:42 *** glx|away is now known as glx 17:11:43 *** smoovi [smoovi@e178205087.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:11:45 *** smoovi [smoovi@e178205087.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 17:16:10 *** Guest485 [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:16:10 *** smoovi [smoovi@e178205087.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:21:53 <dihedral> Sacro: who is that? 17:22:06 <Sacro> maley123/graphics_master 17:22:13 <dihedral> someone who managed to bombard you with tons of questions? 17:24:22 <peter1138> no, that's you 17:24:46 *** Wezz6400 [~Wezz6400@ndb.demon.nl] has joined #openttd 17:31:35 <dihedral> ^^ 17:33:59 *** Deathmaker [~Miranda@dslb-082-083-231-020.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:35:50 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r10739 /branches/0.5/train_cmd.c: [0.5] -Fix [FS#1096]: trains going over bridges would get the "going down hill" accelerate bonus, which causes trains to go faster on bridges than they would be going on level land. 17:36:08 *** Sacro [~Ben@adsl-87-102-80-216.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:37:26 *** Sacro_ [~Ben@adsl-87-102-80-216.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 17:38:49 *** smoovi [smoovi@e178205087.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 17:38:49 *** Sacro_ [~Ben@adsl-87-102-80-216.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:45:12 *** JazzyJaffa [~jazzy@85-211-142-91.dyn.gotadsl.co.uk] has joined #openttd 17:48:10 *** lolman [~lolman@cpc3-leds2-0-0-cust55.leed.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:55:38 *** KritiK [Maxim@ppp91-76-146-92.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #openttd 18:04:07 *** boekabart [~bdb@a156213.upc-a.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 18:16:21 <Wolf01> boekabart, what about the *water* patch? 18:17:42 *** Ailure [Gamefreak@194.47.44.201] has joined #openttd 18:18:15 <ln-> Bjarni: have you evaluated the patch? 18:20:05 *** Wolf01 is now known as Wolf01|AWAY 18:21:34 *** raimar3 [~hawk@p5489B788.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 18:24:47 *** lolman [~lolman@cpc3-leds2-0-0-cust55.leed.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 18:27:02 *** HMage [HMage@hmage.dialup.corbina.ru] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:28:31 *** raimar2 [~hawk@p5489EBF4.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:33:27 *** Nickman [~chatzilla@ALyon-156-1-20-228.w86-216.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #openttd 18:34:43 <Nickman> hi all 18:42:29 *** Wolf01|AWAY is now known as Wolf01 18:42:45 <Wolf01> hi 18:47:41 *** Zr40 [~zr40@zr40.xs4all.nl] has quit [Quit: Zr40] 18:53:43 *** Wezz6400 [~Wezz6400@ndb.demon.nl] has quit [] 19:01:42 <boekabart> Wolf01: What about the water patch? 19:02:06 <boekabart> afaic, i'm waiting for dev comments/interest 19:02:09 *** boekabart [~bdb@a156213.upc-a.chello.nl] has left #openttd [] 19:02:46 *** skidd13 [~skidd13@p548A7225.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 19:06:59 <peter1138> oic 19:10:26 <peter1138> crystal ball time again? pomtepom 19:11:15 <Prof_Frink> peter1138! funkysignals! 19:14:29 *** lolman [~lolman@cpc3-leds2-0-0-cust55.leed.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:21:55 <Eddi|zuHause> NEWfunkysignals? 19:22:12 <Prof_Frink> Eddi|zuHause: No, 'cause ottd has no funkysignals 19:22:33 <Eddi|zuHause> but it has to be a newsomthing, everything is a newsomething 19:31:52 <valhallasw> funkysignals? O_o 19:32:34 <Prof_Frink> valhallasw: ttdpatch's routing restrictions 19:32:41 <valhallasw> ah 19:32:52 <peter1138> yes 19:32:55 <peter1138> give it to me 19:33:56 <valhallasw> 'It ensures linear working time, at a huge memory cost' <-- I just love CS 19:34:08 <Prof_Frink> oh, yes, peter1138! 19:34:11 <valhallasw> (recursive-descent parser with backtracking 19:38:10 *** SpBot [terom@zapotekII.paivola.fi] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:38:24 *** SpBot [terom@zapotekII.paivola.fi] has joined #openttd 19:44:28 <valhallasw> someone here with ideas on how to construct a lexer for a backtracking recursive parser? 19:44:56 <Nickman> someone here know with the Squirrel implementation? 19:45:10 <Nickman> How to register certain functions to it? 19:47:54 *** skidd13 [~skidd13@p548A7225.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #openttd [] 19:48:06 <Rubidium> there's a nice squirrel-export script for that (assuming you want to export functions in src/ai/api) 19:48:14 <Rubidium> to squirrel 19:48:55 <Nickman> yes I do :) 19:49:00 <Nickman> an sh script? 19:49:20 <Rubidium> yes 19:49:26 <Rubidium> with a little bit of awk + sed magic 19:49:45 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@d51A43614.access.telenet.be] has quit [Quit: oO] 19:49:58 <Nickman> do I just execute squirrel_export.sh? 19:54:37 <Nickman> I get a core dump :D 19:55:06 <Rubidium> use a proper awk 19:55:11 <Rubidium> i.e. not mawk 19:55:39 <Nickman> ./squirrel_export.sh: line 73: 3063 Segmentation fault (core dumped) awk -f ${f}.awk ${f} > ${f}.tmp 19:55:53 <Nickman> I just did ./squirrel_export.sh 19:56:57 *** lolman [~lolman@cpc3-leds2-0-0-cust55.leed.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 19:57:12 <Nickman> how can I check wich one is used and how do I change it? 19:57:32 <Rubidium> awk -h? 19:58:27 <Nickman> I get "mawk" when I do "man awk" :) 19:58:36 <Rubidium> well, then you're screwed 19:58:53 <Nickman> hmmmm, I can't change it? 19:58:57 <Nickman> wich one is a good one? 19:59:12 <Eddi|zuHause> you're on the way to destruction, make your time! 19:59:31 <Nickman> hehe :D 19:59:33 <Rubidium> gawk 19:59:46 <Nickman> I'll take a look around ;) 19:59:47 *** glx|away [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 19:59:48 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx|away] by ChanServ 19:59:48 <Rubidium> mawk seems to be having trouble with splitting "long" strings 20:00:06 <Nickman> if I suddenly leave, broke it :D 20:00:10 <Rubidium> but I couldn't care to post a bug report 20:00:19 <Eddi|zuHause> "long" == ">255"? 20:01:29 <Rubidium> rather 512ish 20:01:45 <Eddi|zuHause> strange number... 20:01:59 <Nickman> the ubuntu package manager can install gawk so, let's go for it ;) 20:02:31 <Rubidium> ghehe... when ubuntu can't install gawk you should ditch it very fast 20:02:51 <Nickman> indeed :) 20:03:21 <Nickman> should be done, let's retry 20:03:32 <Red> !players 20:03:38 <Rubidium> Red: 255 20:03:49 <Red> 255? 20:04:13 <Eddi|zuHause> the number before 256 and after 254 20:04:23 <Red> helps when I type into the correct window lol 20:04:27 <Rubidium> Red: rather 112 ;) 20:04:39 <Nickman> it worked ;) 20:04:47 <Eddi|zuHause> you really should've said 42 :) 20:04:57 <Rubidium> @openttd servers 20:04:57 <DorpsGek> Rubidium: Servers online: 143; Running version 0.5.2 (latest): 95; Clients online: 113 20:05:04 <Rubidium> oh, now it's 113 ;) 20:05:38 <Eddi|zuHause> why are there more servers than clients? 20:06:10 <Rubidium> cause about 125 are not used at all 20:07:47 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:09:06 <Phazorx> what's the difference in client behavior between solo play and being connected to dedicated server? 20:09:29 <Phazorx> to make it even simplier case - ony one player on server 20:09:35 <Rubidium> CTRL-ALT-C opens the cheat menu 20:09:50 <Rubidium> on solo and not when connected to a server 20:10:05 <Phazorx> performance wise? 20:10:05 <Rubidium> and enter opens the chat window when connected and does nothing when not connected 20:10:39 <Rubidium> all commands are delayed a tick 20:10:39 <Prof_Frink> So... When're vi bindings going to be added to openttd? 20:10:46 <Phazorx> my point is - when i log in to server - lag out instantly... and when DL that game and play solo - it works fine 20:11:19 <Rubidium> maybe the server is not paused when your client tries to catch up 20:11:37 <Nickman> Rubidium: what do I change to add my files to the make file? 20:12:03 <Rubidium> and the client can easily lag without getting "real" trouble for a few seconds in solo 20:12:17 <Rubidium> when it (for example) is building up it's YAPF caches 20:12:24 <Rubidium> and I assume you're talking about trunk 20:12:54 <Rubidium> Nickman: grep -R 'ai_vehicle.cpp" . 20:13:00 <Rubidium> Nickman: grep -R 'ai_vehicle.cpp' . 20:13:14 <Rubidium> (don't use two different kinds of quotes, it messes up stuff ;) 20:23:19 *** glx|away is now known as glx 20:28:23 <Nickman> it's still busy :p 20:28:27 <Nickman> stupid laptop... 20:28:55 <Rubidium> then you've ran it in the wrong directory ;) 20:29:13 <Rubidium> do you have IO activity? 20:29:44 <Nickman> I'm running it in the main directory of the svn checkout? 20:29:50 <Nickman> not much... 20:30:24 <Rubidium> then you probably mixed ' and " or forgot to close them (i.e. have an even number of them) 20:30:49 <Nickman> I used this : "grep -R 'ai_vehicle.cpp'" 20:30:54 <Nickman> without the " ofcourse ;) 20:31:23 <Rubidium> that's going to take forever 20:31:34 <Nickman> hehe 20:31:46 <Nickman> so, what do I have to do then? :p 20:31:52 <Rubidium> as it is grepping the input of the console 20:32:04 <Rubidium> the . is important 20:32:07 <Nickman> hehe :D 20:32:10 <Nickman> aaaaah 20:32:14 <Nickman> didn't know that :) 20:32:42 <Nickman> the space too I see :D 20:36:35 <Nickman> the source.list file it is 20:36:59 *** Quit [~quit@23-147.3-85.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #openttd 20:39:32 *** skidd13 [~skidd13@p548A7225.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 20:39:35 <skidd13> !ports 20:39:51 <Eddi|zuHause> !fail 20:39:55 <skidd13> :( 20:39:55 <Eddi|zuHause> !openttd port 20:39:57 <_42_> Eddi|zuHause: OpenTTD uses TCP and UDP port 3979 for server <-> client communication and UDP port 3978 for masterserver (advsertise) communication (outbound) 20:40:15 <skidd13> THX 20:47:05 <Phazorx> Rubidium: yes, trunk or close to it, server is paused on join and i remains paused till later it is manualy unpaused 20:48:05 <Phazorx> with all vehicle stopped it works fine, it is possible to buuld. no visual lag, cpu usega <20%... as soon as action starts to happen it turns into slide show with pegged CPU and eventualy (winting few minutres, looses conenction) 20:48:55 <Phazorx> if at that point of time the map is DLed and seved - it is playbale locally, with spikes to 100% but quite fluient on all other cases with average usage <80% 20:49:17 <Phazorx> i can also start on same PC dedicated server with same map and in unpaused mode usage is 70-80% 20:49:24 *** _marc-andre_ [~marc-andr@84.4.233.239] has joined #openttd 20:49:33 <Rubidium> Phazorx: close to trunk is a useless statement as it tells me absolutely nothing 20:50:14 <Phazorx> 10620, wth yapf caching 20:52:03 *** skidd13 [~skidd13@p548A7225.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #openttd [] 20:52:28 <Rubidium> the game only starts building caches once the vehicles start running 20:53:01 <Phazorx> correct but it doesnt take 5 minutes 20:53:04 <Rubidium> when that takes a while, you are a few frames behind the server and you have to catch up with the server, which makes it go 100% 20:53:20 *** marc-andre [~marc-andr@84.4.234.64] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:53:42 <Phazorx> vehicles are stopped when i join 20:53:53 <Phazorx> so cache build gradualy on both server and client i presume? 20:54:18 <Rubidium> you said the that stand alone it spikes at 100% too. When it then takes 300 ms for that frame instead of 30, you basically pause the game for 300 ms and then continue at 30 ms intervals 20:54:43 <Rubidium> when you have that "issue" at the server you are 10 frames behind the server and have to play catchup 20:55:02 <Rubidium> and with 80-90% CPU that means you can catch up a max of 5 ms per frame 20:55:13 <Phazorx> Rubidium: there is a huge visual diffrence between solo and MP, spikes happen on any map actually, cant say what exactly they are related too 20:56:44 <peter1138> when solo, if a frame takes longer than 30ms to run, then so be it 20:56:55 <peter1138> in mp, it has to catch up with the server 20:56:58 <Rubidium> yes, it could be that the client stops blitting for a few frames to catch up with the server faster 20:57:27 <Phazorx> hmm... okay, any idea on what could be happening during the spiek? 20:57:40 <Rubidium> day tick, month tick, year tick 20:57:40 <Phazorx> i mean it is not initial sycn and cache building it is something ongoing 20:58:07 <Phazorx> but it should be regular in solo then as well, rather than ocasional spike? 20:58:28 <Rubidium> depends what is occasional 20:58:37 *** Nickman_ [~chatzilla@ALyon-156-1-149-68.w83-113.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #openttd 20:58:43 <Phazorx> not mroe often than once per minute realtime 20:58:57 <Phazorx> so say once per game month or so? 20:58:59 <Rubidium> Phazorx: so once a month... 20:59:07 <Rubidium> ergo... month ticks 20:59:27 <Rubidium> could be autosave too 20:59:34 <Phazorx> and there is a lot of acitivity that client wont be able to catchup after and will lag forever since? 21:00:12 <Rubidium> I don't get that question 21:00:21 <Rubidium> or you are asking something really really strange 21:00:44 <Rubidium> like: since when is this behaviour of catching up with the server implemented? 21:00:46 <Phazorx> well how much more activity is in day/month/year tick compared to regular? 21:01:01 <Rubidium> that totally depends on the game 21:01:18 <Rubidium> and I never could be bothered to compare it 21:01:27 <Phazorx> hmm... i guess it does, but lost of industrie and vehicles? 21:01:39 <Phazorx> Rubidium: well ball park it 21:01:46 <Phazorx> 10x 100x 1000000x 21:02:31 <Phazorx> cuz by my calculation if it is less than 100x it should recover within 500 ticks on 80% load 21:03:20 <Rubidium> somewhere between 1 and ? 21:03:39 <Phazorx> i cant even profile that :/ 21:03:47 <Rubidium> as I said before, I never had the urge to check it 21:04:11 *** Nickman [~chatzilla@ALyon-156-1-20-228.w86-216.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:04:16 <Phazorx> is there a top level day/month/year tick function ? 21:04:23 *** Nickman_ is now known as Nickman 21:04:36 <peter1138> no 21:04:42 <peter1138> they're spread around 21:04:51 <Phazorx> PlayersMonthlyLoop ? 21:04:57 *** skidd13 [~skidd13@p548A7225.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 21:05:17 *** elmex [~elmex@e180067180.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:05:49 *** Gekko[PDA] [~gekko@S01060010a71a08fb.ed.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:06:09 <Phazorx> peter1138: i know in profiling it counts all childs independantly but there is spreadout by time, miliseecond by millisecond in gpro report, i can see how loing it took 21:07:18 *** JazzyJaffa [~jazzy@85-211-142-91.dyn.gotadsl.co.uk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:13:49 *** mario [~mario@201.242.99.213] has joined #openttd 21:14:21 <mario> /leave 21:14:27 <mario> /leave 21:14:40 *** mario [~mario@201.242.99.213] has left #openttd [] 21:15:15 <valhallasw> :') 21:19:09 <Wolf01> ... 21:25:48 <Quit> /left !1 21:26:14 <Eddi|zuHause> hä? 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21:51:16 *** Nickman [~chatzilla@ALyon-156-1-149-68.w83-113.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:51:41 <Eddi|zuHause> no, also the data directory is needed 21:54:01 *** Nickman [~chatzilla@ALyon-156-1-149-68.w83-113.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #openttd 21:54:57 *** Quit [~quit@23-147.3-85.cust.bluewin.ch] has quit [] 21:57:51 *** Nickman [~chatzilla@ALyon-156-1-149-68.w83-113.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [] 22:02:28 <ln-> zomfg, man kann bahntv online gucken. 22:06:51 *** lolman [~lolman@cpc3-leds2-0-0-cust55.leed.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:06:52 <Eddi|zuHause> :p 22:09:32 <ln-> one of these videos from the cockpit again.. 22:10:32 *** KritiK [Maxim@ppp91-76-146-92.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:10:32 <ln-> mehrere überraschungen als in pr0n. 22:11:29 *** TinoM [~Tino@i5387C904.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 22:12:23 *** lolman [~lolman@cpc3-leds2-0-0-cust55.leed.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 22:21:00 *** Darkebie [~dkb@d5153D5CD.access.telenet.be] has quit [Quit: VIP Gill ;D] 22:21:39 *** ThomasNL [~thomas@vdburgt.xs4all.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:53:04 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: richk * r10740 /branches/NewGRF_ports/src/airport.h: [NewGRF_ports] -Change: Order of vars in MovingData struct modified for gcc compilation. 22:54:39 <Bjarni> ln-: URL? 22:55:07 <ln-> Bjarni: mms://atkon-atkbtvolive-wmv-high.wm.llnwd.net/atkon_atkbtvolive_wmv_high 22:56:45 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: richk * r10741 /branches/NewGRF_ports/ (4 files in 2 dirs): 22:56:45 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: [NewGRF_ports] -Feature: Added multiblock import from newgrf. Catchment area (Prop 22) added. 22:56:45 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rb_airport2.grf : Commuter airport FSM updated to include catchment area, and multiblock lock on pos 0x10 Flying. Will only commence landing if both runway, and inway (pos 14) are clear. 22:59:45 <Bjarni> it's not working :( 23:02:23 <Bjarni> now it started working... I wonder why it took so long 23:02:57 <ln-> they just drove over the long bridge in rendsburg 23:02:59 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1D223.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:12:48 <ln-> (seems like Bjarni can't irc and watch a video at the same time) 23:31:58 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: richk * r10742 /branches/NewGRF_ports/src/newgrf.cpp: [NewGRF_ports] -Change: size_x and size_y needed to be stored in FTAClass for correct calculation of Cargo Acceptance. 23:32:30 *** RichK67_ [~RichK67@194.164.100.143] has joined #openttd 23:33:13 *** RichK67_ [~RichK67@194.164.100.143] has quit [] 23:33:47 *** RichK67 [~RichK67@194.164.100.143] has joined #openttd 23:34:13 <RichK67> hi 23:36:01 *** Mizipzor [Mizipzor@Alex-PC.bsnet.se] has joined #openttd 23:36:20 <Mizipzor> hi all :) 23:46:19 *** exe [~dgf@pub70089.brzesko.net.pl] has joined #openttd 23:47:31 <Mizipzor> can the source be compiled with visual studio 2003? 23:48:59 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-89-217-33-148.adslplus.ch] has joined #openttd 23:54:19 <Eddi|zuHause> read the wiki 23:54:51 <Mizipzor> Eddi|zuHause, im doing that now 23:56:29 <Mizipzor> looks like i should opt to install the express edition