Times are UTC Toggle Colours
00:00:01 *** Darkebie [~dkb@d5153D5CD.access.telenet.be] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:00:08 <SquireJames> so far, with a few colour signs the current layout is working alright 00:02:34 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1F769.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:03:08 <Eddi|zuHause3> what irks me most is those 2-way sections, and that there are no signals at the bridge, to separate the left from the right section 00:03:11 *** nzvip [~svip@192.38.109.188] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:04:31 *** iPandaMojo [~panda@c-67-183-216-154.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 00:09:15 *** Mucht [~Mucht@p57A0FE5D.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 00:11:39 *** ThePenguin [~ThePengui@75-128-224-130.dhcp.mrqt.mi.charter.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:14:23 *** ThePenguin [~ThePengui@75-128-224-130.dhcp.mrqt.mi.charter.com] has joined #openttd 00:19:50 *** SmatZ [~smatz@a40-prg1-5-107.static.adsl.vol.cz] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 00:21:12 *** ThePenguin [~ThePengui@75-128-224-130.dhcp.mrqt.mi.charter.com] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.78.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.6/2007072518]] 00:21:17 <Sacro> http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/photos/uncategorized/2007/09/04/lego.jpg 00:23:28 <Eddi|zuHause3> greetings from escher? 00:25:46 <glx> someone had too much free time 00:27:10 *** dasy2k1 [~dan@host86-146-203-195.range86-146.btcentralplus.com] has left #openttd [Gnite] 00:30:40 <Eddi|zuHause3> funny, searching for "escher" on google even gives that picture :p 00:31:03 *** exe [~jbhxjk@pub70089.brzesko.net.pl] has joined #openttd 00:31:27 *** SquireJames [SquireJame@adsl-70-142-34-238.dsl.tul2ok.sbcglobal.net] has left #openttd [] 00:31:30 <Eddi|zuHause3> http://www.andrewlipson.com/escher/relativity.html 00:31:33 <glx> it's not a real construction, but an assembly of many it seems 00:35:01 *** iPandaMojo [~panda@c-67-183-216-154.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: iPandaMojo] 00:35:37 <Eddi|zuHause3> it looks like several "modules" attached to each other at certain points 00:36:33 <glx> I'm not confident in its stability 00:37:03 <exe> other than map downloading, it should not matter for network bandwidth (game lag, lost connections) how big the map is, and how many vehicles there are? 00:37:27 <Eddi|zuHause3> i'd have other things to worry about in escher pictures :p 00:38:23 <glx> exe: right, map downloading is the bigger bandwidth consumer 00:39:04 <exe> then it just sends tick packets as always 00:39:38 <glx> commands and "tick" frames yes 00:39:52 <glx> not very big 00:40:41 <glx> but if a client has a high ping, the server may drop it 00:42:13 <exe> so probably the feeling that i get lagged out more often on big maps is wrong 00:42:38 <glx> your computer may be too slow to follow the server 00:44:37 <Eddi|zuHause3> the server must be the slowest one 00:44:45 *** DaleStan [~Dale@pool-71-98-103-180.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:44:52 <Eddi|zuHause3> else all clients who cannot keep up will get dropped 01:01:03 *** DaleStan [~Dale@pool-71-98-103-180.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 01:02:40 <Phazorx> the coopers desync is relevant to RVs/depots apparently 01:02:48 <Phazorx> perhaps LV4 induced 01:03:09 <Phazorx> if anyone cares... 01:03:30 <Phazorx> and i can not even run that revision :| 01:31:40 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [~johekr@p54B76E10.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 01:37:34 *** Diabolic-Angel [~dia@xdsl-84-44-191-6.netcologne.de] has quit [Quit: leaving] 01:38:05 *** Eddi|zuHause3 [~johekr@p54B76123.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:41:43 *** ThePenguin [~ThePengui@75-128-224-130.dhcp.mrqt.mi.charter.com] has joined #openttd 01:45:23 *** ThePenguin [~ThePengui@75-128-224-130.dhcp.mrqt.mi.charter.com] has quit [] 02:10:47 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: bye] 02:10:47 *** ITSBTH [~e@host-81-191-171-43.bluecom.no] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:27:01 *** Osai^2 [~Osai@pD9EB6B3E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 02:33:30 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB6558.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:56:21 *** ITSBTH [~e@host-81-191-171-43.bluecom.no] has joined #openttd 03:24:33 *** nfc [~nfc@dsl-hvkgw1-fe6dfa00-187.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:26:19 *** sPooT [~spoot@e142085.upc-e.chello.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:48:15 *** nairan_zzZZ [~Maui_key@p5498C584.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 03:48:17 *** mcbane [~Maui_key@p5498D197.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:48:33 *** nairan_zzZZ is now known as mcbane 03:54:29 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-84-227-26-187.adslplus.ch] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 04:22:20 *** nfc [~nfc@dsl-hvkgw1-fe6dfa00-187.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #openttd 04:39:51 *** Smoky555 [~Miranda@80.69.148.14] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:53:46 *** nairan_zzZZ [~Maui_key@p5498FC44.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 04:53:47 *** mcbane [~Maui_key@p5498C584.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:55:41 *** ITSBTH_ [~e@host-81-191-171-43.bluecom.no] has joined #openttd 04:55:41 *** ITSBTH [~e@host-81-191-171-43.bluecom.no] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:56:06 *** Smoky555 [~Miranda@80.69.148.14] has joined #openttd 06:03:48 *** DNazarov [~Miranda@80.69.148.14] has joined #openttd 06:04:05 *** Smoky555 [~Miranda@80.69.148.14] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:06:57 *** Greyscale [~greyscale@host86-131-25-232.range86-131.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 06:09:59 *** Osai^2 [~Osai@pD9EB6B3E.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Osai^2] 06:15:27 *** Mark [~Mark@86.84.7.53] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:16:32 *** ThePizzaKing [~jeff@c211-28-155-227.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 06:18:30 *** Mark [~Mark@86.84.7.53] has joined #openttd 06:22:39 *** Farden [~jk3farden@AMontsouris-156-1-139-159.w83-202.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #openttd 06:48:41 *** Farden [~jk3farden@AMontsouris-156-1-139-159.w83-202.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:50:19 *** Farden [~jk3farden@AMontsouris-156-1-77-144.w90-24.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #openttd 06:51:38 *** elmex [~elmex@e180064083.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 06:52:21 *** Greyscale [~greyscale@host86-131-25-232.range86-131.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:54:36 *** N101 [~Name101@CPE-121-216-143-142.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 06:54:55 <N101> afternoon all 07:00:42 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB6B3E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 07:15:25 *** mikl [~mikl@0x57372ee2.mrbnqu1.broadband.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 07:21:14 *** skidd13 [~skidd13@p548A1472.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 07:21:29 *** skidd13 is now known as Skidd13|uni 07:27:26 *** Mucht [~Mucht@p57A0DDC5.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 07:27:42 *** TinoM|Mobil [~tino@i5387CDBE.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 07:34:51 *** prakti [~prakti@port-213-148-152-8.static.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 07:47:31 *** Skidd13|uni [~skidd13@p548A1472.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has left #openttd [] 07:51:26 *** green-devil [~c@0x535b6e4c.vgnxx6.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 08:05:10 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-84-227-26-187.adslplus.ch] has joined #openttd 08:05:12 *** lag` [~lagmaster@cpc4-bsfd2-0-0-cust907.cmbg.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:05:15 *** lag [~lagmaster@cpc4-bsfd2-0-0-cust907.cmbg.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 08:16:26 *** Dark_Link^sleep is now known as Dark_Link^skola 08:23:18 *** alex__ [~joe@62-249-237-101.no-dns-yet.enta.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:25:26 *** SmatZ [~smatz@a40-prg1-5-107.static.adsl.vol.cz] has joined #openttd 08:29:43 *** scia [~scia@85.149.96.102] has joined #openttd 08:31:58 *** alex__ [~joe@62-249-237-101.no-dns-yet.enta.net] has joined #openttd 08:33:03 *** Kloopy [kloopy@kloopy.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:40:07 *** Darkebie [~dkb@d5153D5CD.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 08:49:00 *** lag` [~lagmaster@cpc4-bsfd2-0-0-cust907.cmbg.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 08:49:00 *** lag [~lagmaster@cpc4-bsfd2-0-0-cust907.cmbg.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:53:10 *** Deathmaker [~Miranda@dslb-082-083-192-221.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 09:04:44 <elmex> is there a way to prevent trams from piling up at stations? 09:04:56 <SmatZ> train with power == 0, TE == 0 can run... very slowly, but can :) 09:05:26 <elmex> or can i give trains an order not to full load, but to wait until some cargo has arrived? 09:06:22 <SmatZ> elmex: would it be any different, if tram transferred 2 passangers instead of 0? 09:07:43 <elmex> not really 09:07:43 *** ITSBTH_ [~e@host-81-191-171-43.bluecom.no] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:07:48 *** ITSBTH [~e@host-81-191-171-43.bluecom.no] has joined #openttd 09:08:14 <SmatZ> elmex: how do you mean "piling up at stations"? 09:08:33 <SmatZ> soryy, I cannot give you any advice :( 09:09:12 <SmatZ> when I build more drive-thru tram station, the first tram stops at the furthest, second stops behind the first and so on... 09:09:46 <elmex> http://www.ta-sa.org/files/sc/openttd_tram_pileup.png <- like this, they both have the same orders, but i would love to distribute them more evenly across the stations. but no matter when i start them, they always seem to pile at the station with many passengers (where the first one loads long and the second one arrives) 09:10:00 <elmex> ah 09:10:13 *** TinoM|Mobil [~tino@i5387CDBE.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 09:10:26 <elmex> there is of course only one drive-through-tile 09:17:07 <elmex> i gues what i want is handled here: http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=33524&st=0&sk=t&sd=a 09:17:46 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@snat1.spoje.net] has joined #openttd 09:21:24 <Ammler> elmex: you also use a tram with cap bug there... 09:21:53 <elmex> Ammler: cap bug? you mean the badly alignerd wagons? 09:22:12 <elmex> it's the hiroshima trams i got from the openttd coop grf collection 09:22:43 <Ammler> elmex: this tram has a cap of 450, that isn't mean't to be so 09:23:06 <elmex> hm,yes 09:23:17 <Ammler> 150 is meant for whole tram, thats a "articulated" bug 09:23:36 <Ammler> The Greenmover seems to be right, i.e. 09:24:22 <Ammler> Hiroshima is only testing release... 09:25:27 <Ammler> and did you try the timetable? you can change values manually 09:26:22 <Ammler> you should recalculate it, maybe you did the timetable with a smaller tram, so it has a too short loading time 09:30:11 *** Bjarni [~Bjarni@0x535ca25f.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 09:30:14 *** mode/#openttd [+o Bjarni] by ChanServ 09:31:29 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: bjarni * r11044 /trunk/src/autoreplace_cmd.cpp: 09:31:29 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: -Fix (r11043): [autoreplace] a proper fix should cover all cases, not just the one mentioned in the bug report 09:31:29 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: Certain dualheaded/articulated consists could still trigger this issue 09:36:13 <elmex> Ammler: do the timetables take care of sparation? 09:36:30 <Ammler> elmex: depense on you 09:36:36 <elmex> hmm 09:36:46 <Ammler> if you make times long enough, that it won't be late 09:37:45 <Bjarni> but who wants to wait half an hour at each station when it takes 5 minutes to drive between them? 09:37:55 <Ammler> :) 09:38:10 <peter1138> welcome to reallife 09:38:35 <Bjarni> you tried that as well? 09:38:51 <peter1138> no, but i know it's true 09:39:05 <peter1138> oh, each station. maybe not :p 09:39:49 *** green-devil [~c@0x535b6e4c.vgnxx6.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has quit [] 09:40:16 <Ammler> hmm, maybe you should be able to adjust unloading and loading time separatly 09:40:28 <Bjarni> the worst case I heard about from real life was the driver, who forgot he was supposed to stop at all stations and realised it after passing 2 or 3 stations with around 100 km/h... guess what: he was no longer 5 minutes late :P 09:40:45 *** TinoM [~Tino@i5387CDBE.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 09:47:09 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1ED23.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 09:59:49 *** dihedral [~nathanael@joshua.dihedral.de] has joined #openttd 09:59:55 <dihedral> hello ladies :-) 10:04:48 <ln-> hello, miss 10:07:49 <dihedral> :-P 10:14:13 *** neolgs [~55f13d93@webuser.thegrebs.com] has joined #openttd 10:14:28 *** neolgs [~55f13d93@webuser.thegrebs.com] has quit [] 10:15:37 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: bjarni * r11045 /trunk/src/ (autoreplace_cmd.cpp train.h train_cmd.cpp vehicle.cpp): -Codechange: added a function to tell if a vehicle is the rear part of a dualheaded train engine 10:28:24 *** TinoM [~Tino@i5387CDBE.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 10:30:53 *** ITSBTH_ [~e@host-81-191-171-43.bluecom.no] has joined #openttd 10:30:53 *** ITSBTH [~e@host-81-191-171-43.bluecom.no] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:34:05 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: bjarni * r11046 /trunk/src/ (autoreplace_cmd.cpp train.h): -Codechange: added function to get the next movable (non-articulated, non-read end of dualheaded engine) vehicle in a train 10:34:34 <Bjarni> ok, that's it for new tools for now. Now I can return to what I was actually coding (and use the new functions) 10:34:35 <Bjarni> :) 10:35:19 *** Peakki [antti@cs181000195.pp.htv.fi] has joined #openttd 10:38:57 *** TinoM [~Tino@i5387D7B0.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 10:41:26 <dihedral> well done Bjarni ;-) 11:10:50 *** ITSBTH [~e@host-81-191-171-43.bluecom.no] has joined #openttd 11:10:50 *** ITSBTH_ [~e@host-81-191-171-43.bluecom.no] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:11:11 *** mpounta [~mpounta@ppp53-121.adsl.forthnet.gr] has joined #openttd 11:11:15 <mpounta> hello 11:12:32 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-84-227-26-187.adslplus.ch] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 11:16:24 *** Deathmaker [~Miranda@dslb-082-083-192-221.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:18:27 *** Deathmaker [~Miranda@dslb-082-083-192-221.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 11:18:27 *** mpounta [~mpounta@ppp53-121.adsl.forthnet.gr] has quit [Quit: ÎÏοÏÏÏηÏε] 11:18:48 <Eddi|zuHause2> <Bjarni> the worst case I heard about from real life was the driver, who forgot he was supposed to stop at all stations and realised it after passing 2 or 3 stations with around 100 km/h... guess what: he was no longer 5 minutes late :P <- here, a bus driver once forgot that he had to wait 15 minutes before going back to the city, and drove away immediately... my father then called the bus central, who told the bus driver to turn around 11:18:50 <Eddi|zuHause2> and come back 11:20:30 <peter1138> did he want the bus, or was he just being evil? 11:23:41 <Eddi|zuHause2> we did want the bus :) 11:23:50 <Eddi|zuHause2> plus a few other people 11:24:58 *** Brianetta [~brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 11:25:09 *** Diabolic-Angel [~dia@xdsl-84-44-196-62.netcologne.de] has joined #openttd 11:28:39 <SmatZ> !playercount 11:28:44 <SmatZ> !playerscount 11:28:53 <SmatZ> errrr sorry 11:40:41 <Eddi|zuHause2> they never learn :p 11:41:08 <elmex> hmmm 11:41:14 <elmex> !revision 11:41:17 <elmex> !password 11:41:19 <elmex> grmbl 11:41:28 <elmex> :-> 11:41:55 <SmatZ> :-P 11:48:24 <Eddi|zuHause2> see :p 11:48:55 <Eddi|zuHause2> we should ban the coopers from this channel, so they won't be confused anymore :p 11:50:02 <elmex> i'm not a cooper 11:50:56 *** Brianetta [~brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [Quit: TschÃŒÃ] 12:01:25 *** Purno [~Purno@5357D37C.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 12:06:48 *** TinoM [~Tino@i5387D7B0.versanet.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:10:54 <Bjarni> <elmex> i'm not a cooper <--- that leaves only "stupid" :P 12:11:15 <Bjarni> why else would you write stuff like that? 12:11:24 <elmex> to tease SmatZ 12:11:38 <Bjarni> ahh 12:11:44 <Bjarni> then it makes sense 12:11:56 <Bjarni> in fact it would be stupid not to do so 12:14:39 *** Mucht [~Mucht@p57A0DDC5.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 12:15:36 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-193-46-fixip.tiscali.ch] has joined #openttd 12:16:19 <elmex> letz have a look at this crazy chrisIN thingie 12:17:36 <Eddi|zuHause2> as long as it does not have PBS, it is not really useful to me :) 12:18:41 *** Strid [gg@85.8.6.64.static.se.wasadata.net] has joined #openttd 12:20:02 <Bjarni> Eddi|zuHause2: ohh... turning a bus around. My dad was once on a bus that left a few minutes too early and the driver notice this and decides to make a U-turn to pick up whatever passengers he left behind. He manage to turn like 100-120 degrees and then a sign was in the way. He then reverse, but it ends up wrong because it was one of those "bending busses" and he jams the joint. Now he had a bus blocking a decent sized road (with t 12:20:02 <Bjarni> wo lanes each way) during the rush hour and he couldn't move the bus. All the passengers left him and took the next bus, which turned up on time 10 minutes later 12:21:17 <Bjarni> to make the story even better, he was like 2-3 minutes early, but he had already driven for like 5 minutes, so there was no way he could get back and then leave on time 12:21:38 <Eddi|zuHause2> well... here the next bus would have gone like 2h later 12:21:51 <Eddi|zuHause2> also, the bus has a perfectly good turning location in the next village 12:22:01 <Bjarni> then it's important to complain, but when there is one every 10th minute.... 12:22:53 *** Diabolic-Angel [~dia@xdsl-84-44-196-62.netcologne.de] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 12:23:03 <Bjarni> and the bus blocked the road until it had external help to get moving. The joined had turned more than it should be allowed to do :/ 12:23:46 *** Strid_ [gg@85.8.6.64.static.se.wasadata.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:23:52 *** Diabolic-Angel [~dia@xdsl-84-44-196-62.netcologne.de] has joined #openttd 12:24:11 *** MrBrrr [~chatzilla@bas3-montreal02-1096682612.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #openttd 12:24:46 <Bjarni> well, I guess we all see bad/unlucky bus drivers eventually 12:25:11 <Bjarni> like this one, who said "oh shit, I should have turned here" 12:25:15 *** N101 [~Name101@CPE-121-216-143-142.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:26:05 <Bjarni> hey, we should implement that in OpenTTD: road vehicle took a wrong turn 12:26:09 <peter1138> heh 12:26:14 <peter1138> yes 12:26:17 <peter1138> that's all the stuck trams 12:27:00 <Bjarni> well 12:27:11 <Bjarni> it's actually more fun when it happens on a railroad 12:27:21 <Bjarni> people get so upset when it happens :P 12:27:34 <Bjarni> though.... it's damn rare 12:29:17 <Eddi|zuHause2> the train driver usually has no influence on the switches... 12:29:51 <Eddi|zuHause2> the station controller usually handles those 12:30:58 <Bjarni> yeah 12:31:08 <Bjarni> but they both have to screw up when it goes wrong 12:32:08 <Bjarni> I mean it could happen that the signal shows something wrong and the train driver should actually stop if he gets a signal he didn't expect even if it's a green signal 12:32:30 <Bjarni> like if he gets "clear though station at max speed" and it's the end of the line for him, then it's wrong 12:32:41 <Bjarni> and he should stop and contact the station manager 12:33:29 <Bjarni> but ever since the switches turn automatically based on the train number, then this is an extremely rare case 12:35:39 <SmatZ> [14:25:12] <Bjarni> well, I guess we all see bad/unlucky bus drivers eventually <--- /drunk 12:36:14 <Bjarni> actually that's rare here 12:36:19 <Bjarni> I have never seen them 12:36:26 <Bjarni> personally 12:37:15 <Bjarni> however one bus driver was on the news (well, the story was) that he was drunk and the passengers didn't accept it, so they contacted the police, who arrested him 12:37:32 <Bjarni> this is a pretty good way to prevent such incidents 12:38:17 <Eddi|zuHause2> i have never encountered a drunk driver either... 12:40:15 *** frosch123 [~mtce@pascal.math.tu-clausthal.de] has joined #openttd 12:43:39 <SmatZ> well, I don't know if the driver is drunk 12:43:46 <SmatZ> I don't have any way to determine it 12:43:51 <SmatZ> sometimes they drive strange 12:43:54 *** Ammller [~Ammler@adsl-193-46-fixip.tiscali.ch] has joined #openttd 12:44:00 <SmatZ> but maybe it is because they are new etc. 12:44:10 <Bjarni> or simply poor 12:44:29 <Bjarni> poor drivers, not poor in a no money way ;) 12:45:58 *** sPooT [~spoot@e142085.upc-e.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 12:47:08 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 12:47:08 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 12:47:57 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-193-46-fixip.tiscali.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:50:30 *** TinoM [~Tino@i5387D7B0.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 13:00:30 *** ThePizzaKing [~jeff@c211-28-155-227.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Quit: ThePizzaKing] 13:01:54 *** Mucht [~Mucht@p57A0DDC5.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 13:10:42 *** Diabolic-Angel [~dia@xdsl-84-44-196-62.netcologne.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:11:49 *** Diabolic-Angel [~dia@xdsl-84-44-196-62.netcologne.de] has joined #openttd 13:25:21 *** Greyscale [~greyscale@host86-131-25-232.range86-131.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 13:26:49 *** Insight` [~askme@host64-21.bornet.net] has joined #openttd 13:30:11 *** mikl [~mikl@0x57372ee2.mrbnqu1.broadband.tele.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:35:52 *** Greyscale [~greyscale@host86-131-25-232.range86-131.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:43:36 *** Smoky555 [~Miranda@80.69.148.14] has joined #openttd 13:46:52 *** DNazarov [~Miranda@80.69.148.14] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:47:47 *** Greyscale [~greyscale@host86-131-25-232.range86-131.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 13:53:29 *** exe [~jbhxjk@pub70089.brzesko.net.pl] has left #openttd [] 13:54:27 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-171-87-247.dsl.ip.tiscali.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:55:00 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-171-87-247.dsl.ip.tiscali.nl] has joined #openttd 13:57:14 *** skidd13 [~skidd13@p548A442E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 14:01:53 *** mikl [~mikl@0x57372ee2.mrbnqu1.broadband.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 14:08:46 *** MrBrrr [~chatzilla@bas3-montreal02-1096682612.dsl.bell.ca] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.78.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.6/2007072518]] 14:09:02 *** Strid [gg@85.8.6.64.static.se.wasadata.net] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 14:15:40 *** Strid [gg@85.8.6.64.static.se.wasadata.net] has joined #openttd 14:17:32 *** nzvip [~svip@192.38.109.188] has joined #openttd 14:26:23 *** mikl [~mikl@0x57372ee2.mrbnqu1.broadband.tele.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:27:50 *** [1]Mark [~Mark@86.84.7.53] has joined #openttd 14:34:32 *** Mark [~Mark@86.84.7.53] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:34:32 *** [1]Mark is now known as Mark 14:39:27 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B8037E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:40:42 <dihedral> i once was on a train that reversed 5km because it forgot to stop at a station 14:41:03 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B806EA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 14:41:06 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 14:53:51 <Bjarni> dihedral: huh? 14:53:52 <Bjarni> where? 14:54:11 <Bjarni> 5 km is a lot 14:54:18 <Bjarni> the limit in Sweden is 200 meters 14:54:25 <Bjarni> the limit in Denmark is 0 meters 14:54:28 *** KouDy [user@85.207.64.178] has joined #openttd 14:54:49 *** skidd13 [~skidd13@p548A442E.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #openttd [] 14:55:11 <Bjarni> that is, unless you make a deal with the station manager, but odds are that you will fuck up the signals by reversing in the middle of a block 14:55:35 <Bjarni> well, modern blocks might handle it well, but not all signal blocks are modern :s 14:55:37 <Phazorx> reversing a train? would it be easier to appologise, and orginize a bus ride to these who missed the stop? 14:56:23 <ln-> no 14:56:45 <Bjarni> are you sure it's a no? 14:57:12 <Phazorx> Bjarni: btw yesterdays coopers desyncs are related to RVs and depots, i'm trying to relibly reproduce it but that turned out a bit challenging 14:57:12 <Bjarni> you are going to delay the train and then it might block other trains so it delays those too 14:57:41 <ln-> reversing 5 km only takes 5 mins 14:57:41 <Bjarni> one poor move and you can have 150 trains delayed by say 10 minutes 14:58:11 <Phazorx> ln-: not quite, you ened to stop the train, reverse and then go forth again 14:58:11 <ln-> there are routes where a train is all alone. 14:58:28 <Phazorx> it is one extra stop extra acceleration and 10 km travel 14:58:54 <Bjarni> <ln-> reversing 5 km only takes 5 mins <-- at a constant speed of 60 km/h... you need to stop and accelerate and.... reversing at 60 km/h...... 14:59:22 <Phazorx> chief of train (whatever that is called) would have to walk from one head to another too :) 14:59:27 <Bjarni> either you lack a cab in the rear and then you can't go 60 km/h or you will have to spend time to get to the other end 14:59:41 <Bjarni> Phazorx: those are called drivers ;) 14:59:57 <Bjarni> or (American) engineers 14:59:59 <Phazorx> Bjarni: if you have cabs on both ends most likely they will be populated 15:00:11 <Phazorx> but there is one single person who is responsible for the ride 15:00:28 <Phazorx> and that's the one who is to make the call and will be either in one end or another 15:00:52 <nzvip> :O 15:01:06 <Bjarni> <Phazorx> Bjarni: if you have cabs on both ends most likely they will be populated <--- no. Only one of them will be in use at any one time 15:01:31 <Bjarni> well, that's the usual way 15:01:32 <Phazorx> that might differ depending on situation 15:01:46 <Phazorx> i seen when both are used, howefver only one actualy controlling anything 15:02:05 <Bjarni> the non-controlling guy is likely the conductor doing paperwork 15:02:14 <Phazorx> yup 15:02:24 <Bjarni> and he will not be allowed to drive even if the driver give the control to him 15:02:33 <Phazorx> and that person is not gonna say "hey, let power this thing and go backwards for a while" 15:02:43 <Bjarni> so from a driving perspective, it doesn't matter if he is in the rear or not 15:03:12 <eggburt> I want to see a train rip itself in half by trying to drive the opposite way on each end, see where it splits first 15:03:16 <eggburt> it'd be a giggle 15:03:26 <Bjarni> no it wouldn't 15:03:45 <Bjarni> you risk that the couplers aren't the ones to give in 15:04:07 <Bjarni> and then you will have two halfs of a car that aren't connected anymore 15:04:09 <Phazorx> well hopefull there will be soemone smart enough to release the breakes 15:04:10 <eggburt> what could give? :o 15:04:17 <eggburt> oh my 15:04:17 <Phazorx> and then hunt eggburt with a crowbar 15:04:33 *** KouDy [user@85.207.64.178] has left #openttd [] 15:05:24 <Bjarni> actually if you have two engines both going forwards, the correct thing to do would be to brake as engines disengage automatically if the brake is applied 15:05:56 <Phazorx> my point exatly 15:06:00 <Bjarni> well, the really correct thing would (besides making sure never to do this) would be to stop the engines yourself 15:06:03 <Phazorx> and emergency breake would work as well 15:07:02 <Bjarni> anyway it's a big nono and don't even think about this 15:07:29 *** AntB [~AntB-UK@5ac91ada.bb.sky.com] has joined #openttd 15:08:13 <eggburt> well I was thinking more in a controlled situation, not at a station full of people or anything :p 15:08:54 <Bjarni> reminds me of a DMU (or actually two sets). When switching direction of travelling in the end of the line, it all of a sudden had 3 engines going forward and one reversing. Switching to reverse made 3 engines reverse and one going forward. Switching to forward again made 3 engines go forward and one reverse.... the train ended up driving on 3 engines 15:08:56 <Eddi|zuHause2> <Phazorx> chief of train (whatever that is called) would have to walk from one head to another too :) <- in germany, the "train leader" is the main conductor, he has nothing to do with driving, and to make decisions he has radio or some kind of phone 15:08:58 <Bjarni> :P 15:10:55 <Bjarni> <eggburt> well I was thinking more in a controlled situation, not at a station full of people or anything :p <--- it's like you don't realise the forces at play here. Imagine a force strong enough to pull a railroad car apart... it will likely happen so violently that metal fragments would fly out of it like an explosion 15:11:00 <Phazorx> in russia it is train brigadier, also does no driving, but responsible for a lot of things... and also officer of transport militia 15:11:41 <Bjarni> eggburt: now you shut up about breaking trains, ok? 15:11:59 *** Wezz6400 [~Wezz6400@145-118-111-234.fttx.bbned.nl] has joined #openttd 15:12:09 <Eddi|zuHause2> brakeing is difficult enough :) 15:12:16 <eggburt> fine I gotta go out anyway 15:12:38 * Bjarni notes to shoot eggburt on sight 15:12:49 <Phazorx> blunt spoon :) 15:12:55 *** frosch123 [~mtce@pascal.math.tu-clausthal.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:13:07 <Bjarni> before he gets any funny ideas about my train >_< 15:13:12 <eggburt> damn man taking it a bit personally aren't you? 15:14:23 <Eddi|zuHause2> for all you know, "train" could mean his private parts :p 15:14:42 <Bjarni> you mean it's that long??? 15:14:57 <Eddi|zuHause2> how would i know? 15:15:15 <Bjarni> good point 15:15:57 <Bjarni> well, this makes me think of the incident where a railroad company (who shall remain unmentioned) pulled our car apart... it took 10 years to fix >_< 15:16:00 <dihedral> Bjarni: it was a track where trains run only every 30 mins 15:16:10 <dihedral> Bjarni: in germany 15:16:30 <dihedral> Bjarni: and jes - there most likely was communication with the 2 separate stations 15:18:01 <Bjarni> 30 minutes.... I would most likely have apologised and paid for a few taxis if needed... reverting quickly delays the train way too much 15:23:31 *** Digitalfox [~chatzilla@bl4-208-2.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #openttd 15:34:03 *** nairan_zzZZ is now known as mcbane 15:36:25 *** Greyscale [~greyscale@host86-131-25-232.range86-131.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:37:28 *** TinoM|Mobil [~tino@gprs-pool-1-027.eplus-online.de] has joined #openttd 15:37:34 *** TinoM|Mobil [~tino@gprs-pool-1-027.eplus-online.de] has quit [] 15:43:50 <Mark> !players 15:43:55 <Mark> oh no.. 15:44:45 *** Frostregen_ [~sucks@dslb-084-058-117-226.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 15:45:15 <SmatZ> about the desyncs on openttdcoop: seems when RV are all stopped, desyncs don't happen anymore 15:45:43 <SmatZ> there are some busses and tramways 15:46:12 <guru3> oh can you build trams now? 15:46:30 <SmatZ> yes 15:46:34 <guru3> awesome 15:46:50 <Rubidium> that's like an ancient feature already 15:47:06 <SmatZ> :-) 15:47:33 <guru3> last i heard of it it was like partially implemented or something 15:47:38 <guru3> just saw random bits for it in the code 15:47:40 <guru3> that was it -_- 15:48:45 <guru3> maybe i should check the coop game out 15:50:51 *** Frostregen [SADDAM@dslb-084-058-119-158.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:50:55 *** Frostregen_ is now known as Frostregen 15:52:03 *** Draakon [~chatzilla@88-196-104-8-dsl.trt.estpak.ee] has joined #openttd 15:52:08 <Draakon> hello 15:52:13 <guru3> hello 15:52:25 <Draakon> what's up? 15:54:28 <guru3> nothing really 15:55:10 *** NukeBuster [~opera@a62-251-21-79.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 15:55:28 <Draakon> are there any good CrishIN server? 15:55:31 <Draakon> servers* 15:57:36 <Belugas> Draakon, if you look here -> http://www.openttd.org/servers.php <- you will find the answer to your question 15:57:41 <Belugas> and not just right now ;) 15:58:03 <Belugas> like... bookmark! :D 15:58:07 <Draakon> thing is i know only one but it isn't the latest one 15:59:33 <Belugas> that's all there is, sorry 16:00:20 <Belugas> nightlies testing is fun too 16:00:26 <Belugas> and far more productive ;) 16:01:17 <Belugas> lunch-time 16:01:19 <Belugas> yeah! 16:01:21 <Draakon> lol 16:01:31 <Draakon> hmm, i got some idea 16:02:56 *** Digitalfox_ [~chatzilla@bl4-208-2.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #openttd 16:02:56 *** Digitalfox [~chatzilla@bl4-208-2.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:03:01 *** Digitalfox_ is now known as Digitalfox 16:06:10 *** Draakon [~chatzilla@88-196-104-8-dsl.trt.estpak.ee] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.78.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.6/2007072518]] 16:06:46 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host240-239-dynamic.15-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 16:07:34 <Wolf01> hello 16:11:59 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@d51A43614.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 16:13:22 <guru3> did any of the patches for sharing tracks and that stuff ever make it in? 16:13:46 <Eddi|zuHause2> afaik it was decided to never let any of those in 16:14:03 *** Zr40 [~zr40@zr40.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 16:14:14 <guru3> shame, thought there was some good stuff there 16:14:15 <ln-> was it the sort of "not going to happen" decision? 16:20:31 *** Digitalfox [~chatzilla@bl4-208-2.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Quit: Bye] 16:21:00 *** NukeBuster [~opera@a62-251-21-79.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #openttd [] 16:21:11 *** Insight`f00dz [~askme@host64-21.bornet.net] has joined #openttd 16:21:49 *** Insight` [~askme@host64-21.bornet.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:27:18 *** nzvip [~svip@192.38.109.188] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:29:34 *** Greyscale [~Greyscale@host86-131-25-232.range86-131.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 16:32:15 *** Zr40 [~zr40@zr40.xs4all.nl] has quit [Quit: Zr40] 16:33:54 <Bjarni> <ln-> was it the sort of "not going to happen" decision? <-- I think it was more like "if we do it, it should not be a hack like this" 16:35:07 *** Grey [~greyscale@host86-131-25-232.range86-131.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 16:35:47 *** Greyscale [~Greyscale@host86-131-25-232.range86-131.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:37:42 *** BobingAbout [~BobingAbo@adsl-83-100-150-91.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 16:38:44 *** BobingAbout [~BobingAbo@adsl-83-100-150-91.karoo.KCOM.COM] has left #openttd [] 16:40:37 <Eddi|zuHause2> i remember some old discussion about things like "checkpoints" [modification of waypoints?] which have to be between two companies' rail tiles, to determine what kind of vehicles can pass there 16:40:38 <SmatZ> http://88.146.45.107/ttd/Desync%20Transport,%203rd%20Mar%202025.png 16:40:43 <SmatZ> ^^^ this causes desyncs 16:41:52 <Bjarni> you need to explain it a bit better than that 16:43:07 <SmatZ> when I buy an articulated tram 16:43:10 <SmatZ> or replace 16:43:18 <SmatZ> it looks disconnected 16:43:23 <SmatZ> and soon, the game desyncs 16:44:13 <Rubidium> hmm, so replacing ARVs is the cause? 16:44:32 <Bjarni> or just build them it seems 16:45:31 <Eddi|zuHause2> wide tram gauge looks weird... 16:46:10 <SmatZ> http://88.146.45.107/ttd/Desync%20Transport,%2013th%20Aug%202025.png 16:46:16 <SmatZ> ^^^ this is how it looks 16:46:20 <SmatZ> when it gets out 16:46:28 <SmatZ> the rear part is really further 16:46:51 <Bjarni> and you just built this one? 16:46:57 <Sionide> ohh tram lines with no road underneath? :) 16:47:06 <SmatZ> yes 16:47:08 <SmatZ> newly built 16:47:24 <Bjarni> then we can rule out autoreplace 16:47:32 <SmatZ> yes... 16:47:43 <Bjarni> but autoreplace is affected as it use the normal build command 16:47:50 <SmatZ> yes 16:48:11 <SmatZ> Sionide: yes :) 16:48:16 <Sionide> woot! 16:48:40 <Bjarni> hmm 16:49:04 <Eddi|zuHause2> i think i read somewhere about a graphics replacement which has grass inbetween the rails instead of dirt 16:49:35 <Bjarni> SmatZ: post this as a bug report. It's a newGRF issue (at least I presume so) 16:51:19 <Bjarni> SmatZ: naturally you should apply to how to make proper and usable bug reports ;) 16:52:24 <Eddi|zuHause2> why is the station called TGV when it is serviced by Transrapid? 16:53:38 <SmatZ> Bjarni: of course :) 16:53:48 <Bjarni> because somebody don't know the difference :P 16:53:50 <SmatZ> Eddi|zuHause2: I don't know 16:54:54 *** ThePenguin [~ThePengui@75-128-224-130.dhcp.mrqt.mi.charter.com] has joined #openttd 16:55:14 *** ThePenguin [~ThePengui@75-128-224-130.dhcp.mrqt.mi.charter.com] has quit [] 17:02:01 *** Dephenom [~paul@81-178-15-211.dsl.pipex.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:06:19 *** Dephenom [~paul@81-178-15-211.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #openttd 17:13:49 <Rubidium> what tramset are those trams of? 17:14:18 <elmex> Rubidium: looks like the hiroshima set 17:14:28 <elmex> if you mean the last posted image 17:14:42 <Eddi|zuHause2> i think he previously mentioned they used the hirotrams 17:17:11 <SmatZ> Rubidium: yes, from Hiroshima 17:17:18 <SmatZ> seems 11011 caused this 17:17:25 <SmatZ> soon I will be sure 17:17:53 <Eddi|zuHause2> !openttd commit 11011 17:17:58 <_42_> Commit by rubidium :: r11011 /trunk/src/ (10 files) (2007-08-30 21:11:12 UTC) 17:18:00 <_42_> -Fix [FS#1129]: GetFirstVehicleInChain did change the game state while being marked const. 17:18:02 <_42_> -Codechange: do not brute force determine the first vehicle in the chain or previous vehicle, but do it by properly accounting the previous and first pointers when updating the next pointer. This gives a performance increase of about 15% when there are a lot of vehicles in the game. 17:18:27 <SmatZ> 11012 is affected, 11008 is not 17:18:35 <SmatZ> I am doing bisection, now compiling 11010 17:18:58 <Rubidium> hmm, odd 17:19:11 <Eddi|zuHause2> well, you can optimise bisection a lot, if you have a found suspicion 17:19:18 <Rubidium> when loading the savegame you get the vehicles with different spacing between them 17:19:38 <SmatZ> Eddi|zuHause2: yes... 17:20:08 <Rubidium> SmatZ's probably using git bisect ;) 17:20:42 <SmatZ> Rubidium: yes ... is there some better way? 17:21:01 <Rubidium> it (usually) beats manual bisecting 17:21:16 <SmatZ> hmm 17:21:24 <SmatZ> well... 17:21:31 <SmatZ> I don't know, maybe I use the manual bisection... 17:21:48 <SmatZ> 11010 is not affected, 11011 is affected ... I will post a bug report soon 17:21:55 *** KouDy [user@85.207.64.178] has joined #openttd 17:21:57 <SmatZ> ./svn-openttd-rev 11011 17:22:17 <SmatZ> ^^^ probably I use manual bisection... how can I do the 'git bisection'? 17:23:07 <Rubidium> you give git bisect a good version and a bad version, then it gets the middle commit. 17:23:45 <Rubidium> you tell whether it works good or doesn't and it keeps doing that till there is only one commit between the good and bad version 17:24:16 <SmatZ> so the difference is that at uses only revisions that changes given tree (trunk) and that id does the bisection automatically? 17:24:40 <Rubidium> basically yes 17:24:55 <SmatZ> The Simpsons @ TV... brb 17:25:10 <AntB> lol 17:26:02 <AntB> Just wondering,is GRF action 00 feature 04 train station or any station? 17:27:19 <svip> Man I think my own webcomic is awesome. 17:27:30 <svip> ;P 17:27:40 <svip> o_o 17:27:46 <Belugas> AntB, i thnk you can do some stuff with prop 08, other than train 17:28:02 <Belugas> in the futur (relatively close) it will be expanded to airports too 17:28:13 <SmatZ> svip: sure it is! :) 17:28:23 *** elmex [~elmex@e180064083.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 17:28:29 <svip> ;o You know it, SmatZ. 17:29:03 <AntB> Belugas: OK, It just that the Steel mill station in the industry stations set really bugs me when you use Monorail or Mavlev as it goes a bit dead 17:29:08 *** elmex [~elmex@e180064083.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 17:29:09 <Eddi|zuHause2> he was probably being sarcastic, svip :p 17:29:27 <svip> :P I don't care. 17:30:26 <AntB> I figure it might be something in the NFO as I can't see anything wrong in the graphics 17:30:53 <Belugas> you'd better try it in TTDP. maybe it's something on OTTD side... 17:31:08 <SmatZ> svip: actually, may I see it? 17:31:16 <svip> Sure. 17:31:17 <svip> http://weirdo-comic.net/ 17:31:21 <Belugas> AntB: if both act the same, you should tell the author 17:31:38 *** Mucht_ [~Mucht@p57A0D308.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 17:31:48 <AntB> its a combined effort from some of the TTDPatch forum members 17:32:03 <AntB> but i'll try it just to make sure 17:32:07 <Eddi|zuHause2> i have never tried the industrial stations with anything other than rail 17:32:35 <AntB> not many people do it would seem 17:33:57 <Eddi|zuHause2> well, lots of people who use newgrf stations also use newgrf vehicle sets, which usually discourage/disable cargo transportation with monorail/maglev 17:34:18 <AntB> exactly 17:34:36 <Eddi|zuHause2> besides, i dislike the steel station 17:34:44 <AntB> But on coop anything goes really :D 17:35:08 *** Mucht [~Mucht@p57A0DDC5.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:35:35 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-171-87-247.dsl.ip.tiscali.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:36:29 *** Mucht_ [~Mucht@p57A0D308.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 17:40:52 <Rubidium> SmatZ: the v->First() and v->Previous() caches are correct after each tick, which makes me wonder where the issue comes from 17:42:33 <Rubidium> so the only thing that could (theoretically) be wrong is an assumption about v->First() somewhere when loading (I think) 17:43:45 <SmatZ> actually, when loaded, the vehicles are correct 17:43:54 <SmatZ> it is incorrect when build 17:44:09 <SmatZ> then it is saved, and when loaded, it is corrected 17:45:07 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-171-87-247.dsl.ip.tiscali.nl] has joined #openttd 17:52:08 <Rubidium> hmm, can't reproduce the desync anymore (after some small changes) ;) 17:52:15 <SmatZ> :-) 17:52:44 <SmatZ> I am really curiou 17:52:45 <SmatZ> *s 17:52:46 <svip> :O So, SmatZ, did you agree with me or not? 17:53:19 *** skidd13 [~skidd13@p548A6DDC.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 17:53:20 <SmatZ> svip: oh... there are The Simpsons @ TV, I was watching them 17:53:20 *** mikl [~mikl@0x57372ee2.mrbnqu1.broadband.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 17:53:29 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r11047 /trunk/src/articulated_vehicles.cpp: -Fix (r11011) [FS#1205]: desync due to wrong cached vehicle length on articulated vehicle construction. 17:53:43 <svip> I understood that, SmatZ. o_o But you asked for the url. 17:54:10 <SmatZ> svip: yes :) I opened the first page so far... 17:54:21 <SmatZ> with Konqueror... it didn't work much :( 17:54:25 <svip> :O 17:54:31 <AntB> lol 17:54:39 <svip> I don't even have Konqueror to test it in. :| 17:54:47 <svip> Requires too many kde libs. 17:55:12 <SmatZ> maybe Mac users will have some problems too, I think the Safari uses the same render core 17:55:41 <svip> But I have seen it on Safari. 17:55:46 <svip> And it looked fine. 17:55:59 <svip> I've tried it in Firefox/Minefield, Opera and IE6/7 as well. 17:56:14 <svip> All look fine. 17:56:23 <svip> Yet people using the same browsers are reporting that it isn't. 17:56:33 <svip> But I keep checking, and it looks just fine. 17:56:39 <Eddi|zuHause2> svip: just get a knoppix cd or something :) 17:56:42 <AntB> svip, trying sorting some of the JS errors if you can 17:56:45 <skidd13> Which Konqueror? 17:56:46 <SmatZ> svip: strange, problem is only when the window is maximized 17:56:54 <svip> :o 17:57:00 <skidd13> version I ment 17:57:03 <svip> JS, AntB? 17:57:04 <SmatZ> skidd13: from Konqueror 3.5.7 17:57:07 <SmatZ> *KDE 17:57:07 <svip> There isn't javascript on the site. 17:57:33 <AntB> well you have 1 js error, the rest are google related 17:57:47 <AntB> "transcribe is not defined" - line 28 17:57:50 <svip> Oh right. 17:57:54 <svip> That is some ohnorobot thingie. 17:58:04 <svip> :| Which apparently sucks. 17:58:11 <SmatZ> svip: after the page is fully loaded, it is okay... maybe something related to image preload? 17:58:36 <svip> There shouldn't be any. 17:58:40 <svip> But AntB has a point. 17:58:56 <svip> I'm taking the ohnorobot script off though. 17:59:03 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-171-87-247.dsl.ip.tiscali.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:59:35 <AntB> the rest are all google, "function does not always return a value" 17:59:49 <svip> Well, that is some analytics. 17:59:52 <svip> But those are just warnings. 17:59:59 <AntB> true 18:00:18 <AntB> warnings are errors thought imo, means bad coding 18:00:29 <Eddi|zuHause2> "warnings are things that you can safely ignore." 18:00:45 <svip> SmatZ: Try now. 18:00:48 <SmatZ> http://88.146.45.107/glitch.png 18:00:50 <svip> I've removed the javascript thingie. 18:01:26 <SmatZ> yes now it seems ok 18:01:32 <svip> Good. 18:01:35 <svip> Then it was the script. 18:01:45 <Eddi|zuHause2> wait, there is supposed to be a second dropdown? 18:02:54 * AntB goes and plays with the Web Developer extension on svips page 18:04:07 <Eddi|zuHause2> why can you select "next" if there is no next comic? 18:04:37 <SmatZ> it has more parts 18:05:13 <Eddi|zuHause2> that is not an answer to my question 18:05:57 <Eddi|zuHause2> ah, there is one, just took very long to load 18:07:13 <AntB> Eddi: only 1 navigation 18:07:37 <Eddi|zuHause2> there is a second one in SmatZ's "glitch" 18:08:03 <Eddi|zuHause2> PS: those comics are not funny... 18:08:57 <AntB> theres one in the glitch but i've just dismantled the page (still gotta check the source tho) and theres only one 18:09:40 <Eddi|zuHause2> where do all my GB go every time?!à 18:09:42 <SmatZ> Rubidium: yes, it seems to work :) 18:09:58 <AntB> GB? 18:09:59 <SmatZ> I like webcomcs 18:10:09 <Eddi|zuHause2> Giga Byte 18:10:22 <AntB> oops, lol 18:10:27 <AntB> thought you meant something else 18:10:41 <Eddi|zuHause2> this morning i had 10, now only 3... 18:10:44 <AntB> SmatZ: www.xkcd.com 18:11:00 <Eddi|zuHause2> those are great ;) 18:11:53 <svip> Everyone knows xkcd rules. 18:13:12 <AntB> lol 18:14:20 <svip> I state that often in my webcomic. 18:15:05 *** KritiK [~Maxim@78-106-148-177.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 18:15:15 <AntB> i gotta go now anyway, with any luck next time i'm on i'll have some grip on NFOs... 18:15:28 *** AntB [~AntB-UK@5ac91ada.bb.sky.com] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.78.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.6/2007072518]] 18:18:13 <SmatZ> svip: sometimes I wonder where do your ideas come from :-P 18:18:29 <svip> :P 18:18:33 <SmatZ> I have often the feeling 'I don't get it' when reading your comic :( 18:19:03 <svip> Link and I'll explain. 18:20:22 <SmatZ> http://weirdo-comic.net/?date=20060606#comic 18:20:37 <SmatZ> they are going to Oracle 18:20:47 <SmatZ> to find out who that 'nigga, please' was 18:21:13 <svip> You mean the Snakedragon? 18:21:15 <SmatZ> and oracle != Oracle (the company) 18:21:19 <SmatZ> yes 18:21:36 <svip> He does say Oracle with a capital letter. 18:21:46 <SmatZ> yes 18:21:59 <SmatZ> but the second two images 18:22:12 <SmatZ> "All that is necessary..." 18:22:23 <svip> Yes? 18:22:25 <SmatZ> ah... 18:22:29 <SmatZ> yes 18:22:40 <SmatZ> at the "And fast!" image 18:22:46 <SmatZ> what is doing the second person? 18:23:06 <SmatZ> I though she is collecting mushrooms 18:23:26 <svip> He, and he is playing with a butterfly. 18:24:26 <SmatZ> isn't that boobs what he has in the bottom-left picture? 18:25:06 <svip> :/ I don't put that things in my comic usually. 18:25:15 <SmatZ> it is ok :) 18:25:20 <SmatZ> but I though it is a woman 18:25:21 <svip> In fact, I sorta trying being family-friendly with my drawings. 18:25:24 <svip> D-man? 18:25:31 <svip> D-man is a woman? O_o_O 18:25:38 <SmatZ> I don't mean naked boobs, but it looked as a woman 18:25:45 <SmatZ> http://weirdo-comic.net/?date=20060606#comic 18:25:54 <SmatZ> | | 18:25:57 <svip> It's a D on his shirt. 18:26:16 <SmatZ> aha 18:26:53 <SmatZ> and in the bottom-left picture, it is 'D' too? it looks as .. DU ? or DL? I though it was boobs 18:26:53 *** ITSBTH [~e@host-81-191-171-43.bluecom.no] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:27:07 *** ITSBTH [~e@host-81-191-171-43.bluecom.no] has joined #openttd 18:27:26 <SmatZ> ah.... 18:27:29 <svip> :P 18:27:29 <SmatZ> I understand 18:27:37 <svip> He is a super-hero. 18:27:42 <SmatZ> he is transforming in that creature sometimes! 18:27:48 <svip> Exactly! 18:27:52 <Phazorx> http://youtube.com/watch?v=ag4RSzOXlTo 18:27:53 <svip> It is even explained in the bio page. 18:28:06 <SmatZ> aha :)) 18:28:08 <Phazorx> even if you dont understand german it is still very enjoyable 18:28:39 <SmatZ> Phazorx: errrrr I saw that once, not whole, really :-x 18:28:55 <Phazorx> kinda have to whole whole thing 18:28:59 <Phazorx> there is development 18:29:20 <Phazorx> helps if you understand actor, especialy mechanic 18:30:11 <SmatZ> hmmm my X server wen't wrong, brb 18:30:14 *** SmatZ [~smatz@a40-prg1-5-107.static.adsl.vol.cz] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:30:45 <svip> O_o "wen't"? 18:30:49 <svip> Isn't it "went". 18:30:49 *** SmatZ [~smatz@a40-prg1-5-107.static.adsl.vol.cz] has joined #openttd 18:31:10 <SmatZ> Phazorx: it is something different than I though -L> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EsWAPtwDkxw 18:31:25 <SmatZ> there is a BMW, too 18:31:37 <Phazorx> well, lol it's a video and it has bmw 18:31:42 <Phazorx> that's the only commn ground 18:32:04 <SmatZ> BMW Z4 wird verschrottet <--- welll... maybe enough for me :) I don't like destroying things :-( 18:32:21 <Phazorx> it's a from spass show 18:32:23 <Phazorx> watch it :) 18:36:44 *** glx|away [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 18:36:44 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx|away] by ChanServ 18:36:51 *** lag` [~lagmaster@cpc4-bsfd2-0-0-cust907.cmbg.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:40:47 <SmatZ> Phazorx: nice 18:41:20 *** G_ [~njones@202.154.148.163] has joined #openttd 18:42:27 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:43:04 *** G [~njones@202.154.148.163] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:45:33 *** lag` [~lagmaster@cpc4-bsfd2-0-0-cust357.cmbg.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 18:48:10 *** Peakki [antti@cs181000195.pp.htv.fi] has quit [Quit: LÀhdössÀ] 18:50:06 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-171-87-247.dsl.ip.tiscali.nl] has joined #openttd 18:52:17 *** glx|away is now known as glx 19:02:18 *** skidd13 [~skidd13@p548A6DDC.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #openttd [] 19:07:28 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB6B3E.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Osai] 19:09:35 *** Wolf01 is now known as Guest2779 19:09:35 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host240-239-dynamic.15-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 19:11:39 *** Farden123 [~jk3farden@AMontsouris-156-1-144-248.w83-202.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #openttd 19:11:52 *** lag` [~lagmaster@cpc4-bsfd2-0-0-cust357.cmbg.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:14:22 *** Farden [~jk3farden@AMontsouris-156-1-77-144.w90-24.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:14:22 *** Farden123 is now known as Farden 19:15:36 *** DJ_Mirage [~sexybigge@biggetje.xs4all.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:16:34 *** DJ_Mirage [~sexybigge@biggetje.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 19:16:45 *** Guest2779 [~wolf01@host240-239-dynamic.15-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:23:12 *** lag [~lagmaster@cpc4-bsfd2-0-0-cust357.cmbg.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 19:41:19 *** Brianetta [~brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 19:41:36 <Brianetta> hi Helen 19:41:51 *** lag [~lagmaster@cpc4-bsfd2-0-0-cust357.cmbg.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:41:53 *** Brianetta [~brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [] 19:42:37 *** Purno [~Purno@5357D37C.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Quit: Always remember you're unique, just like everyone else.] 19:49:00 *** KouDy_ [user@85.207.64.178] has joined #openttd 19:53:38 *** KouDy [user@85.207.64.178] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:58:02 *** KouDy_ [user@85.207.64.178] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:00:18 *** TinoM [~Tino@i5387D7B0.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 20:02:48 *** green-devil [~c@0x535b6e4c.vgnxx6.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 20:03:44 *** scia [~scia@85.149.96.102] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 20:09:22 *** Ammller [~Ammler@adsl-193-46-fixip.tiscali.ch] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 20:14:17 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB6B3E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 20:17:01 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-84-227-26-187.adslplus.ch] has joined #openttd 20:21:41 *** Insight`f00dz [~askme@host64-21.bornet.net] has quit [Quit: ( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.1 :: www.regroup-esports.com )] 20:28:31 <Wolf01> 'night 20:28:42 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host240-239-dynamic.15-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 20:30:05 <Belugas> I really wonder what to do with http://bugs.openttd.org/task/1207 20:30:15 <Belugas> like... waht would be the best way to correct this 20:30:50 <Belugas> if there is a possible way to correct it 20:31:40 *** Grey [~greyscale@host86-131-25-232.range86-131.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:31:45 *** elmex [~elmex@e180064083.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 20:32:48 *** elmex [~elmex@e180064083.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 20:33:27 <Bjarni> well... I guess the solution would be if the town builds a road on the tile in question, then make sure that it's connected to the road on the nearby tile 20:33:36 <Bjarni> I think that would be the only real solution 20:33:45 <Bjarni> but please don't ask me how to code it :P 20:35:35 *** Phazorx [PACO@CPE0011d8690c25-CM001225db7ae8.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:36:34 *** mikl [~mikl@0x57372ee2.mrbnqu1.broadband.tele.dk] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 20:37:54 *** elmex [~elmex@e180064083.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 20:40:15 *** elmex [~elmex@e180064083.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 20:41:27 *** Grey [~greyscale@host86-141-96-149.range86-141.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 20:50:42 *** Grey [~greyscale@host86-141-96-149.range86-141.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:53:10 *** prakti [~prakti@port-213-148-152-8.static.qsc.de] has quit [Quit: Quitting .... Hackedi...hackedi...weg.] 20:54:18 *** Greyscale [~Greyscale@host86-141-96-149.range86-141.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 20:54:22 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@d51A43614.access.telenet.be] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:54:31 *** KUDr [KUDr@mazanec1.netbox.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:01:31 <ln-> silencio 21:01:52 *** Farden [~jk3farden@AMontsouris-156-1-144-248.w83-202.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Quit: ( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.02 :: www.XLhost.de )] 21:05:06 *** skidd13 [~skidd13@p548A79DC.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 21:05:10 <Bjarni> I disagree 21:05:38 <ln-> did you even think about the children? 21:05:42 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r11048 /trunk/src/train_cmd.cpp: -Fix [FS#1206]: several cases where (re)moving eninges on a train would corrupt the vehicle counts for the groups. 21:05:55 <Bjarni> YES! 21:12:33 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-84-227-26-187.adslplus.ch] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:14:14 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-89-217-156-47.adslplus.ch] has joined #openttd 21:15:22 * Bjarni congratulates skidd13 21:15:36 <skidd13> ?? 21:16:04 <Bjarni> on your promotion 21:16:16 *** Mucht [~Mucht@p57A0C6EA.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 21:16:50 <skidd13> Ah FS#1207 21:16:58 *** Grey [~Greyscale@host86-145-24-126.range86-145.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 21:17:48 <Bjarni> actually I was thinking about your account being upgraded on FS 21:19:00 <skidd13> Wow, I noticed that something is different with FS now. :D 21:19:23 <Eddi|zuHause2> "View Dependency Graph" does kinda not work... 21:19:38 *** ThePenguin [~ThePengui@75-128-224-130.dhcp.mrqt.mi.charter.com] has joined #openttd 21:19:42 <Bjarni> hmm 21:19:54 <Bjarni> I never actually used the graph 21:19:54 <skidd13> Yup, that I noticed too. And add related tasks also. 21:19:56 <Bjarni> only the list 21:21:55 *** Greyscale [~Greyscale@host86-141-96-149.range86-141.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:22:18 <skidd13> Add a new related task fails for me with http://paste.openttd.org/220 21:23:06 <Bjarni> tell MiHaMeK 21:23:06 *** Grey [~Greyscale@host86-145-24-126.range86-145.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:23:47 <Eddi|zuHause2> we need to configure flyspray to also handle flyspray bugs :p 21:23:51 *** Grey [~Greyscale@host86-145-24-126.range86-145.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 21:24:12 <Bjarni> I wondered about that as well 21:24:18 <Eddi|zuHause2> and i need 5 GB... 21:25:40 *** elmex [~elmex@e180064083.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 21:26:30 <Bjarni> for posting a bug report? 21:26:35 *** green-devil [~c@0x535b6e4c.vgnxx6.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has quit [] 21:27:01 <skidd13> Is that the bug report for M$ Vista? :D 21:27:02 *** elmex [~elmex@e180064083.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 21:27:36 *** Mucht_ [~Mucht@p57A0C7D5.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 21:27:41 <Eddi|zuHause2> no, for recording 2h TV :p 21:28:11 <ThePenguin> I haven't had as many issues with vista as people have been complaining about 21:28:27 <Bjarni> I haven't had any problems with vista 21:28:33 <Eddi|zuHause2> i have had "void" problems with vista 21:28:33 <Bjarni> I have yet to actually see it 21:29:11 <Eddi|zuHause2> my friend always complains that he needs vista to play halo 2 21:29:14 <skidd13> I haven't had any problems with it too, I'm using Linux :P 21:29:51 <glx> Eddi|zuHause2: he just needs vista to play directX 10 games :) 21:30:04 <ThePenguin> all I need is 2GB of ram and my laptop should be set for a few days until 8 core cpu's come out 21:30:32 <Eddi|zuHause2> glx: exactly... 21:31:24 <Eddi|zuHause2> if it wasn't such an evil scam, i'd say M$ was a genious with not porting DX10 to XP... 21:31:55 <Eddi|zuHause2> there's no better reason to force everyone to upgrade 21:31:58 *** Mucht [~Mucht@p57A0C6EA.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:32:17 <SmatZ> yes, Windows is mostly used because games require it 21:32:37 <SmatZ> and with no games supporting XP, most Win users will migrate to Vista... 21:32:38 <Eddi|zuHause2> until wine gets DX10 compatible :p 21:32:50 <SmatZ> :-) 21:33:08 *** ThePenguin [~ThePengui@75-128-224-130.dhcp.mrqt.mi.charter.com] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.78.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.6/2007072518]] 21:33:31 <Bjarni> I think I spend more time with DosBox than XP 21:34:41 *** Wezz6400 [~Wezz6400@145-118-111-234.fttx.bbned.nl] has quit [Quit: Games don't kill people, I kill people.] 21:36:27 *** ThePenguin [~ThePengui@75-128-224-130.dhcp.mrqt.mi.charter.com] has joined #openttd 21:43:28 <skidd13> Good night 21:43:48 <Bjarni> night skidd13 21:43:51 *** skidd13 [~skidd13@p548A79DC.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #openttd [] 21:44:29 * Bjarni congratulates SmatZ 21:44:48 * SmatZ greest Bjarni 21:45:01 <peter1138> what's all this masturbation? 21:45:25 <Bjarni> ? 21:46:22 <Bjarni> looks like it only take 3 people to pull the chat in 3 different directions 21:46:49 <Bjarni> I think we need to improve our communication 21:48:44 *** Grey_ [~Greyscale@host86-145-24-126.range86-145.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 21:50:03 <SmatZ> maybe this is an advantage of IRC - everybody can talk about something absolutly different and nobody will care... imagine this at some voice discussion - nobody would hear anything 21:50:30 <Bjarni> oh I tried that 21:50:36 <Bjarni> it was called school 21:51:58 <Bjarni> SmatZ: you did realise why I congratulated you, right? :) 21:52:17 <SmatZ> yes :) maybe we should all keep the thread, so we will look like we are old enough :) 21:52:29 <SmatZ> Bjarni: I am really sorry, I didn't :-( 21:52:33 <Bjarni> ... 21:52:40 <SmatZ> was I 100th user here today? 21:52:45 <Bjarni> no 21:53:27 <SmatZ> ah, you congratulated skidd13 for his promotion :) 21:53:46 <Bjarni> do you even think that I would count how many people who entered this channel??? 21:53:48 <SmatZ> I am doing my exams in the half of September.... 21:54:10 <SmatZ> Bjarni: scripts could do a lot of magic :) 21:54:19 *** ThePenguin [~ThePengui@75-128-224-130.dhcp.mrqt.mi.charter.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:54:34 <glx> my client says 87 21:54:43 <Eddi|zuHause2> mine says 5 ops :) 21:54:44 <glx> no need to count 21:54:56 <SmatZ> only 87, but there are over 100 sometimes 21:55:01 <Bjarni> mine says "5 ops, 87 total" 21:55:21 <glx> [87] o:5 v:3 21:55:51 <Eddi|zuHause2> "#openttd - 87 Nicknamen (5 Ops) | irc.oftc.ne - Lag: 318ms" 21:55:55 *** Grey [~Greyscale@host86-145-24-126.range86-145.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:55:56 <Eddi|zuHause2> +t 21:56:00 <Sacro> http://qdb.us/105545 â could it really be? 21:56:05 <glx> Eddi|zuHause2: big lag 21:56:33 <Eddi|zuHause2> actually, that's one of the lower lags :p 21:56:46 <Bjarni> Sacro: is that "our" LadyHawk? 21:57:03 *** Brianetta [~brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 21:57:31 *** Dark_Link^skola is now known as Dark_Link^sleep 21:58:09 <Bjarni> Brianetta: hi 21:58:15 <Bjarni> what was that about Helen? 21:58:24 <Bjarni> is she lurking in here under a false name? 21:58:30 <Brianetta> no 21:58:35 <Brianetta> pre-emptive hello failure 21:58:48 <Brianetta> her client connected to old-#openttd 21:59:26 * Bjarni waves 21:59:32 <Bjarni> Helen: we are over here :) 22:00:03 <peter1138> sometimes i worry about bjarni 22:00:11 <peter1138> but usually i remember there's no point 22:01:59 <guru3> worry about me 22:02:12 <svip> I wouldn't. 22:02:20 <guru3> stupid virus crap on my dad's computer 22:02:23 <guru3> stressing me to hell 22:02:27 <guru3> cause my dad's trying to fix it 22:03:08 <Eddi|zuHause2> format c: 22:03:15 <guru3> i've suggested that 22:03:22 <glx> missing /S Eddi|zuHause2 22:03:23 <guru3> my dad complains about how long it will take to do windows updates 22:03:29 <Eddi|zuHause2> and install linux, while you're at it :p 22:03:43 <guru3> would if he didn't need tax software to run 22:03:47 <guru3> which is non-existant on linux 22:03:57 <Eddi|zuHause2> wine? 22:04:08 <guru3> doesn't run 22:04:09 <guru3> ive tried 22:04:09 <svip> Crossover office? 22:04:32 <guru3> haven't tried that one, but i odn't have it either so 22:04:47 *** MUcht [~Mucht@p57A0CB11.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 22:05:04 <ln-> vmware? 22:05:11 <Bjarni> guru3: tell him that unless he reinstall, he will have a borked windows because the virus already broke it 22:05:23 <guru3> i've tried 22:05:24 <guru3> many times 22:05:25 <svip> And Windows didn't by default? 22:05:30 <guru3> that windows install is about 4 years old 22:05:34 <guru3> i'm amazed it still works 22:06:24 <Sacro> i know someone whose been running ME 22:06:28 <Sacro> for about... what 9 years? 22:06:44 <glx> 9 years without reinstalling ME ? 22:06:48 <Prof_Frink> Sacro: Mah Mum. 22:07:01 <guru3> ME wasn't as bad as it was made out to be 22:07:01 <Sacro> glx: yeah... 22:07:05 <guru3> just have to finesse it 22:07:06 <Sacro> oh it was 22:07:08 <Bjarni> I know of a windows install that wasn't used for anything special (a few games and so on) and it died after half a year. Clicking the start button gave a blue screen 22:07:09 <Prof_Frink> glx: Probably. Boot quickly too. 22:07:11 <guru3> if you finesse any windows it'll work 22:07:13 <Bjarni> but it was win98 22:07:16 <guru3> just that's a lot of work 22:07:48 *** Mucht_ [~Mucht@p57A0C7D5.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:09:18 <Eddi|zuHause2> i used WinME for going to the internet on my router 22:09:39 <Eddi|zuHause2> it does not have the network vulnerabilities that 2000/XP has 22:09:55 <Prof_Frink> Contrary to popular beleif, WinME can act as effective firewall 22:09:56 <guru3> ICS? 22:10:18 <Eddi|zuHause2> i had NAT software installed 22:10:21 <Prof_Frink> If anyone trys to hack in, it'll bluescreen. 22:10:30 <Eddi|zuHause2> not the builtin windows crap, i never got that to work 22:10:38 <Prof_Frink> I can't splel tonight. 22:10:58 <Eddi|zuHause2> ew ontcie! 22:10:59 <Bjarni> we noticed :P 22:15:35 *** KritiK [~Maxim@78-106-148-177.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:15:37 *** Phazorx [PACO@CPE0011d8690c25-CM001225db7ae8.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #openttd 22:21:06 <Phazorx> Rubidium: thanks for deync fix 22:24:03 <Sacro> http://nerdapproved.com/misc-gadgets/oral-sex-snorkel/ 22:25:30 <Eddi|zuHause2> i don't think i will like what i might see if i clicked that 22:26:18 <Phazorx> sounds like another entry on ignore list 22:26:39 <Phazorx> Eddi|zuHause2: i ahev alternative clckable target for you :) 22:26:54 <Phazorx> not a enw one, but somewhat entertaining especial;y for german speaking population 22:27:01 <Phazorx> http://youtube.com/watch?v=ag4RSzOXlTo 22:27:17 <Eddi|zuHause2> is that the same one as previously? 22:27:36 <Bjarni> looks like it 22:27:43 <Phazorx> yup 22:27:50 <Phazorx> sorry i had power outtage here 22:28:03 <Phazorx> i dont recall unfortunately if i posted it here and i can not scroll back 22:28:15 <Sacro> do people keep putting meon /ignore :(? 22:28:39 <Eddi|zuHause2> if i didn't have you on /ignore, i would reply to that :p 22:30:38 <Bjarni> Phazorx: if you had an UPS, then you wouldn't have reposted :P 22:31:07 <Phazorx> Bjarni: it didnt hold long enough so i powered everything off and went shopping 22:31:40 <Phazorx> i did applogize however, despite that i do not see it as my fault and perhaps some people have not seen it/clikced it 22:31:51 <Phazorx> imho it is worthy of one's time :o) 22:32:06 <Phazorx> even if i annoyed soemone who seen it twice in half an hour :) 22:32:56 *** elmex [~elmex@e180064083.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:36:32 <Bjarni> I still wonder where the car went 22:36:59 <Bjarni> did it sink and then some plates moved in over it so the other car could pass or 22:37:01 <Sacro> its in german :( 22:37:15 <Bjarni> so? 22:38:08 <Phazorx> Bjarni: most likely car triggered some rails on top of it 22:38:11 <Sacro> meh 22:38:16 <Sacro> the blonde could ave stopped it 22:38:38 <Phazorx> since when blondes do anything right? 22:38:47 <Sacro> they give good head 22:38:50 <Bjarni> she was in on it so she shouldn't have stopped it 22:38:57 <Bjarni> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtFMylC41VU&NR=1 <-- this one is awesome :D 22:38:59 <Sacro> and how deep is that water :\ 22:41:47 <Bjarni> specially the last two people on that video are great :D 22:45:31 *** Grey_ [~Greyscale@host86-145-24-126.range86-145.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:45:34 <Bjarni> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psLB6M8HFJM&NR=1 <--- here is another awesome one. I never knew those Germans could make so good candid camera :D 22:46:23 <Sacro> nah 22:46:29 <Sacro> germans don't understand humour 22:46:50 <Sacro> HOLY CRAP :o 22:46:58 <Sacro> HOW'D THAT BOX FIT IN THE OTHER :O 22:47:10 <Bjarni> magic 22:47:26 <Bjarni> German ingenuity 22:47:31 <Sacro> it must be 22:47:40 <Sacro> those germans are very ingeuitious 22:51:12 <Eddi|zuHause2> in what? 22:51:20 <Tefad> hah nice 22:51:34 <Tefad> is this hidden camera or something 22:51:41 <Bjarni> yes 22:52:11 <Bjarni> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0Frnyw1YcI&NR=1 <-- this one is good too, but I guess you will have to understand what they say X) 22:52:30 <Bjarni> it's not as brilliant as the other ones though 22:53:09 <Tefad> that guy's voice sucks 22:53:21 <Tefad> i'm assuming even for german he sounds like a douche 22:53:37 <Phazorx> boxes thing is very easy 22:53:43 <Phazorx> it is not a cube but close to it 22:53:54 <Phazorx> all 3 dimentions are different 22:54:27 <Bjarni> yeah, it must be something like that 22:54:31 <Tefad> koffer = car? 22:54:35 <Bjarni> no 22:54:44 <Bjarni> it's the briefcase 22:54:46 <Tefad> ah 22:54:56 <Tefad> hahahaahaha spass 22:58:02 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@snat1.spoje.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 23:01:46 <Bjarni> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPnZS8xrmWM <--- wow, this one is golden :D 23:04:15 <Tefad> bahahahahaa 23:04:24 <Tefad> that's crazy 23:04:36 <Tefad> shook his hand too 23:04:38 <Tefad> bah 23:05:28 <Bjarni> guy no. two is asked if he is secretly practising 23:06:06 <Tefad> oh man #3 23:07:54 <Tefad> haha the last guy is shy 23:08:07 <Tefad> what are they chanting? 23:08:19 <Bjarni> the time they were in 23:08:26 <Bjarni> like it's a competition to do it fast 23:08:30 <Tefad> i see 23:09:19 <Tefad> english has a crapload of vocabulary 23:09:38 <Tefad> german and french roots for quite a few words 23:10:02 <Tefad> "my name is" sounds about the same, i think 23:10:13 <Tefad> for german 23:10:50 <Bjarni> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGScHnDF_bo <--- hahaha.... what a bunch of stupid questions :D 23:11:37 *** Brianetta [~brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [Quit: TschÃŒÃ] 23:14:25 *** Zahl [~SENFGURKE@p5B13AB2E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 23:14:53 <Eddi|zuHause2> <Tefad> what are they chanting? <- the audience usually shout "Zugabe" after a great concert ends, and they want the band to play another (unscheduled) song 23:15:05 <Bjarni> lol 23:15:10 <Bjarni> I didn't catch that one 23:15:18 <Tefad> encore 23:15:28 <Tefad> go french. 23:15:52 <Eddi|zuHause2> also usually accompanied with synchronous clapping 23:17:37 <Eddi|zuHause2> the "automatic" guy in the machine is always great, they do that quite often :p 23:17:54 <Tefad> the carwash? 23:18:08 <Tefad> that requires better understanding of german to get the full joke 23:18:17 <Bjarni> yeah 23:18:51 <Eddi|zuHause2> different places each time, always an "automatic" machine that asks people to do the weirdest things 23:19:00 <Tefad> ah 23:20:55 <Eddi|zuHause2> "how much is the surface of your car" - "oh great god" - "in square kilometers" - "i don't know that either" 23:21:03 <Tefad> hah ok 23:21:10 <Tefad> i kept hearing kilometer 23:22:18 <Bjarni> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Un8Tr8EREaY <--- hahaha... faked police catches people speeding... while skiing :D 23:22:34 <Tefad> hah 23:22:37 <Eddi|zuHause2> "which colour is your car" - "silver metallic" - "what colour should it have afterwards" :p 23:22:47 <Tefad> heh 23:22:48 <Bjarni> yeah, that one was great 23:23:04 <Eddi|zuHause2> reminds me of the bundys 23:23:17 <Eddi|zuHause2> "we lost your car after the car wash" 23:23:41 <Eddi|zuHause2> and at the end of the episode: "we found your car, it had a completely different colour" 23:23:49 <Tefad> heh 23:24:54 *** Greyscale [~greyscale@host86-145-24-126.range86-145.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 23:27:04 <Bjarni> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grZRQKVTVmA&NR=1 <--- hahaha 23:27:08 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r11049 /trunk/src/ (6 files): -Codechange: unify a large part of the vehicle details window. Based on a patch by nycom. 23:35:04 <Bjarni> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JZVXLzbmnA&NR=1 <-- wtf are they saying??? 23:35:47 <Bjarni> doesn't sound like German to me 23:40:19 *** sPooT [~spoot@e142085.upc-e.chello.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:43:13 <Bjarni> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6AWp66i1hU <--- I was once the "victim" of a thing just like this, but the funny part was that they didn't do it on purpose :D 23:43:44 <Bjarni> anyway 23:43:45 <Bjarni> goodnight 23:43:47 *** Bjarni [~Bjarni@0x535ca25f.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:44:35 *** MUcht [~Mucht@p57A0CB11.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 23:48:19 *** Diabolic1Angel [~dia@xdsl-81-173-249-227.netcologne.de] has joined #openttd 23:49:18 *** exe [~jbhxjk@pub70089.brzesko.net.pl] has joined #openttd 23:55:17 *** Diabolic-Angel [~dia@xdsl-84-44-196-62.netcologne.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:58:19 *** exe [~jbhxjk@pub70089.brzesko.net.pl] has left #openttd []