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Log for #openttd on 23rd September 2007:
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00:00:50  <Eddi|zuHause2> "dbg: [misc] [utf8] unknown string command character 57368"
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00:01:13  <Rubidium> probably not, but it could be
00:01:44  <Rubidium> primarily because TTDPs string codes < 255
00:05:08  <Eddi|zuHause2> hm, weird... i have a conflict, but the two sections look exactly the same...
00:06:04  <glx> no one has a space before */ ;)
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00:16:27  <Belugas> Eddi|zuHause2, did yo played a lot with alpine in ttd?
00:17:09  <Eddi|zuHause2> i used ttdpatch long before newgrf...
00:17:15  <Eddi|zuHause2> so not
00:18:01  <Belugas> mmh.
00:18:37  <Belugas> so, knowing exactly what MB changed (apart from the graphics) would mean asking him
00:18:40  <Belugas> hurg...
00:21:12  <Eddi|zuHause2> according to the readme, he ported the temperate industry scheme to arctic
00:23:13  <Belugas> i was more concerned about the eventual features underneath, like callbaks and such
00:25:05  <glx> most callbacks are done now
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00:40:09  <Eddi|zuHause2> hm, the farm i founded still closes immediately
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00:50:58  <Eddi|zuHause2> they are fine if i use the production cheat on them in the first month
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01:03:25  <Eddi|zuHause2> *mental note* do not go to a city with trams while on fast forward...
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01:37:07  <Eddi|zuHause3> weird... i built a station and it got the same name as a previously built one...
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05:20:15  <Banana> !password
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05:37:28  <Phazorx> heh
05:37:32  <Phazorx> obsessive
05:37:46  <Phazorx> is there a way to ban by subnet in ottd ?
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06:45:43  <mcbane> morning
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07:38:19  <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r11146 /branches/noai/ (166 files in 14 dirs): [NoAI] -Sync: with trunk r11035:11045.
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07:54:46  <Wolf01> hello
07:56:33  <Noldo> hi
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09:13:11  <Nickman> hi all
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09:38:28  <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r11147 /trunk/src/viewport.cpp: -Fix [FS#1247] (r11105): reallow bounding boxes with x/y/z-extent 0. Some NewGRFs need them. Patch by frosch.
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10:07:12  <SpComb> there, now MyOTTD supports changing the patch settings as well
10:07:38  <SpComb> it's a bit annoying how OpenTTD writes out the config when it quits, but stopping OpenTTD, writing it out, and then starting it again isn't such a big pain
10:10:34  <Rubidium> SpComb: there's a command line parameter to not write the config file
10:11:10  <Rubidium> hmm, that's only trunk it seems
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10:26:34  <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r11148 /trunk/ (Makefile.src.in config.lib): -Codechange: add support for getting version numbers from Mercurial/HG instead of norev000 (when using a Mercurial/HG clone that is).
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10:54:34  <CIA-1> OpenTTD: maedhros * r11149 /trunk/src/ (macros.h newgrf_house.cpp): -Fix [FS#1225]: Draw building stages for new house ground sprites.
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11:05:30  <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r11150 /trunk/src/newgrf.cpp: -Fix [FS#1202]: NewGRF action 3 does not necessarily need an action 1 to be defined. Patch by frosch.
11:09:12  <valhallasw> is there a way to change the team of a user, server-side?
11:09:19  <valhallasw> i.e. to force someone to be a spectator
11:09:44  <Ammler> instead of banning him
11:10:38  <Rubidium> not without going very complex and possibly desyncing the game (with the current binary that is)
11:11:13  <Ammler> its something simular after bankrupt
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11:17:18  <Ammler> Rubidium: you mean, if you only patch the server?
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11:20:47  <blathijs> Ammler: yes
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11:22:47  <Rubidium> well, you could try GDB magic
11:22:59  <Rubidium> but it's likely that the client will desync and then just reconnect
11:24:11  <SpComb> eat his money
11:24:48  <blathijs> What's the problem with banning?
11:25:02  <blathijs> You want him to stick around and think about what he has done? :-p
11:26:08  <Eddi|zuHause> while you are touching that code... allow creating/joining a company from spectator mode
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11:28:31  <Ammler> blathijs: hehe, silly
11:29:24  <Ammler> maybe its better to have the "bad guy" in spctator mode then trying another way to join
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11:45:56  <Prof_Frink> Ammler: And you could have a 'sin bin', stopping people building for 6 months or so
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12:39:26  <Ammler> http://nightly.openttd.org/ <-- unreachable
12:39:38  <Ammler> which revision is current nightly?
12:42:01  <glx> Ammler: even if you know the rev, you won't be able to get it
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12:44:33  <Ammler> yeah, just realized, svn is also death
12:44:42  <Ammler> and TrueBrain is in vacation
12:44:46  <glx> yes
12:45:11  <Ammler> does that mean, we have to wait until he returns?
12:45:56  <Ammler> nightly builds don't run on my machine
12:46:03  <Ammler> I need sources
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12:52:59  <Eddi|zuHause2> there are nightly source packages
12:54:39  <Ammler> Eddi|zuHause2: path? http://nightly.openttd.org/src/ isn't
12:55:14  <Eddi|zuHause2> how should i know... i never needed them
12:55:28  <glx> anyway it's unreachable
12:55:40  <Ammler> http://nightly.openttd.org/linux-i686
12:55:46  <Ammler> ^^reachable
12:56:15  <Ammler> not everything is unreachalbe
12:56:20  <glx> http://nightly.openttd.org/source/
12:56:52  <Ammler> thx
12:56:58  <Ammler> sry, thanks
12:57:15  <Ammler> omg
12:58:53  <glx> nightly files are on another server
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13:09:16  <Sacro> hmm
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13:11:56  <valhallasw> blathijs: the problem with banning is that there are no ban messages
13:12:19  <valhallasw> generally, we want to force people who are not on the IRC channel to spectate
13:12:24  <blathijs> So someone doesn't know he's banned and why?
13:12:50  <valhallasw> yes
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13:13:05  <blathijs> Wouldn't it be a better solution to add a ban messag then?
13:13:18  <valhallasw> well, banning because someone is not on irc is kinda stupid
13:13:21  <blathijs> Or just use normal chat to tell someone why he is being banned, just before doing so?
13:13:40  <blathijs> ah yes, I see
13:13:41  <valhallasw> autopilot can do that (:
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13:14:17  <valhallasw> and as the irc banning options are more extensive than openttds... :)
13:14:38  <valhallasw> (and does banning prevent someone from spectating?)
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13:15:07  <valhallasw> oh great, but SVN is down so devving is out of the question :P
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13:17:38  <Prof_Frink> valhallasw: Sounds like an excellent time to learn git/mercurial/vcs-of-the-day
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13:20:05  <glx> Prof_Frink: they are down too ;)
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13:24:18  <Prof_Frink> How fail.
13:24:30  <glx> unreachable
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13:28:44  <Ammler> glx: those source packs seems to be not the same as the builds, after compiling, I get the revision 11101M
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13:30:27  <glx> latest is 11139
13:30:50  <glx> you extracted it in your svn dir?
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13:32:29  <Ammler> glx: yes
13:32:46  <Eddi|zuHause2> Ammler: it still takes the revision number from you last svn update
13:33:03  <Ammler> and I also compiled it in its own dir
13:33:39  <Ammler> Is Truelight the onlyone who can admin the server?
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13:34:16  <Ammler> you should really think about transfer it to sourceforge
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13:36:22  <unknown> where can i get the latest nightly, now the webserver seems to be down?
13:36:29  <Ammler> :)
13:36:40  <Ammler> http://nightly.openttd.org/linux-i686
13:37:12  <glx> unknown: platform?
13:37:35  <unknown> Ammler: thanks
13:37:44  <Ammler> would be nice if http://nightly.openttd.org/ not redirected to www
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13:38:56  <glx> http://nightly.openttd.org/latest/ <-- even better
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13:42:55  <Ammler> glx: yeah, thats a good workaround :)
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13:44:04  <Ammler> where can I see the revision in the source?
13:45:10  <glx> it's in src/rev.cpp, but only after configure, and needs svn to get it
13:45:54  <glx> unless you tell it as a configure arg
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13:46:24  <Ammler> so i can just take --revision=r11139 ?
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13:46:42  <glx> yes
13:47:49  <Ammler> :( server doesn't start anymore..., I quit
13:48:16  <Ammler> do we really to wait until Truelight comes back?
13:49:06  <valhallasw> well... yes
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14:03:21  <Eddi|zuHause2> this thgerg* thing is already going on for weeks...
14:03:28  <Eddi|zuHause2> it's getting old...
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14:29:52  <Sacro> can someon+b him?
14:30:53  <ln-> Bjarni can!
14:31:14  <Eddi|zuHause2> yes, please
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14:32:49  <Sacro> thgergo: either a) fix your internet, or b) DISABLE AUTOJOIN
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14:34:26  <Sacro> @seen thg*
14:34:27  <DorpsGek> Sacro: thgergo was last seen in #openttd 1 week, 0 days, 0 hours, 28 minutes, and 41 seconds ago: <thgergo> !password
14:34:58  <Sacro> Bjarni: requesting +b on therg*
14:35:04  <Sacro> err
14:35:08  <Sacro> thgerg* even
14:35:19  <Amix> i just love the trams :)
14:35:36  <Amix> especially goods trams
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14:36:20  <Sacro> thgerg2: QUIT SPAMMING THE CHANNEL
14:36:43  <Amix> his ip can be the reason aswell Sacro
14:36:45  <hylje> Sacro: /ignore #openttd joins quits nicks parts
14:36:59  <Sacro> hylje: i don't like to do that
14:37:15  <Amix> ignore, heh
14:37:31  <hylje> you won't be missed
14:37:33  <hylje> :-)
14:37:51  <hylje> but really, given a sane irc client it should deal with annoying crap
14:38:35  <Amix> true
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14:39:11  <ln-> Bjarni: wake up
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14:42:41  <Amix> you have to get into his dreams and wake him up ;p but thats a hard task i guess :)
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14:43:41  <Bjarni> huh
14:43:49  <Bjarni> what's going on here?
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14:44:46  <Bjarni> so you want me to ban a guy because he has an unstable connection?
14:44:51  <Eddi|zuHause2> Bjarni: thgerg* is timing out every 4 minutes
14:44:56  <Tefad_> heh
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14:45:06  <ln-> Bjarni: exactly
14:45:08  <Tefad> i've been banned for that before
14:45:16  <Tefad> back when i had dialup and/or bpl
14:45:17  <Eddi|zuHause2> while the network timeout is 8 minutes...
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14:46:45  <Bjarni> you mean he times out faster than the network would kick him?
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14:47:00  <Bjarni> thgerg2: why are you so unstable?
14:47:35  <Bjarni> well.. I guess you already asked this
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14:47:59  <AmiXwoktest> http://home.powertech.no/micbergs/OpenTTD/FradhamTransport25thMar2054.png
14:48:03  <ln-> just ban him to get rid of this constant spam
14:48:16  *** mode/#openttd [+b *!*Thiering_@*.pool.t-online.hu] by Bjarni
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14:48:27  <AmiXwoktest> http://home.powertech.no/micbergs/OpenTTD/FradhamTransport30thMay2054.png
14:48:33  <AmiXwoktest> my goods tram
14:48:34  <Bjarni> hmm
14:48:34  <AmiXwoktest> :)
14:48:46  <Bjarni> where did the +n and +t come from?
14:49:04  <AmiXwoktest> +t is title
14:49:08  <Rubidium> ChanServ rebooting
14:49:15  <Bjarni> ahh
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14:51:04  <Tefad> +n means people outside the channel aren't permitted to send messages into the channel
14:51:23  <Eddi|zuHause2> [2007-09-23 16:48] *** ChanServ setzt den Kanalmodus auf "keine Nachrichten von außerhalb".
14:51:23  <Eddi|zuHause2> [2007-09-23 16:48] *** ChanServ schaltet den Topic-Schutz ein.
14:52:06  <Tefad> IRC started off without channels. the owner of the server was the operator..
14:52:20  <Bjarni> huh.. that last screenshot... why is there a black triangle to the left?
14:52:38  <Bjarni> looks like a jet plane shadow, but too dark to be a shadow
14:52:38  <AmiXwoktest> ?
14:52:43  <AmiXwoktest> which one?
14:52:49  <glx> map border Bjarni
14:52:57  <Bjarni> not that one :P
14:53:02  <Tefad> hehehe
14:53:09  <AmiXwoktest> ahh
14:53:12  <AmiXwoktest> because of menus
14:53:12  <Bjarni> the small one on the trees
14:53:22  <AmiXwoktest> they are a bit screwed up in latest nightly build
14:53:25  <Sacro> there is another at Larningpool Falls West
14:53:43  <Bjarni> yeah
14:53:46  <Tefad> UFOs
14:53:53  <Tefad> the aliens have taken over
14:54:00  <Bjarni> ssh
14:54:03  <Bjarni> that's a secret
14:54:16  <Bjarni> don't tell about our invasion plans
14:54:23  <AmiXwoktest> its the tram alien ;p
14:54:36  <hylje> *bzzzzzzzz*
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14:55:27  <Bjarni> I kind of feel sorry for thgerg
14:56:10  <Bjarni> remind me to unban him in a few hours
14:56:59  <Bjarni> I have nothing against banning trolls and stuff like that, but this guy... he is not even trying to be mean at all
14:57:14  <Tefad> wait for him to come back
14:57:20  <Tefad> then kick/ban him with a reason
14:57:23  <Tefad> so he'll have some clue
14:57:31  <Tefad> or leave him a friendly PM ; )
14:58:01  <ln-> Bjarni: if you unban him, the same thing is likely to continue.
14:58:18  <ln-> and ffs, the last time he spoke anything was a week ago.
15:00:11  <Sacro> and that was !password
15:00:37  <Sacro> i think we should cull all uses who haven't spoken in a week
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15:00:44  <Sacro> s/uses/users/
15:00:54  <SmatZ> hello all
15:01:00  <Sacro> you see
15:01:09  <Sacro> we need people who enter the channel and say "hello"
15:01:15  <Sacro> hello Sm
15:01:17  <Sacro> err
15:01:19  <Sacro> hello SmatZ
15:01:21  <SmatZ> sure
15:01:26  <SmatZ> hello Sacro
15:01:44  <SmatZ> it was a nice weekend...
15:01:51  <SmatZ> Monday tommorow
15:02:46  <Eddi|zuHause2> you also have monday tomorrow?
15:02:51  <Eddi|zuHause2> what a coincidence...
15:02:52  <SmatZ> yeah
15:03:04  <Sacro> we have montag
15:03:39  <SmatZ> we have pondeli :-p
15:03:43  <Rubidium> Sacro: that's not a valid English word.
15:04:18  <Rubidium> nor a correctly written German word.
15:04:53  <Sacro> oh yes
15:04:56  <Sacro> Montag
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15:28:42  <Eddi|zuHause2> hm, i have a feeling the freight train multiplyer has no effect anymore...
15:29:26  <AmiXwoktest> tokai: latest nigtly build runs, but I get "Error: Could not allocate memory for the group-sorting-list" when clicking the train icon.
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15:31:11  <Eddi|zuHause2> i have now set a multiplier of 50, and my single BR 85 still climbs multiple slopes with 20 ore wagons as if they were filled with feathers
15:31:16  <skidd13> hi