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00:06:31 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-89-217-159-223.adslplus.ch] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:11:12 *** Maedhros [~jc@host86-133-71-209.range86-133.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: good night] 00:12:37 *** Mucht_ [~Mucht@p57A0C626.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:15:13 <Eddi|zuHause2> man, i want a feature to switch engines at a station 00:15:30 <Eddi|zuHause2> so i can actually switch between steam and electric 00:16:11 <ln-> but that probably can't be done without rewriting half of the game. 00:17:54 <Sionide> . 00:19:53 <Bjarni> looks like Sionide got a point 00:20:04 <Nite> acn you actually run atrain with steam/diesel AND electric loco on it (doubleheded) ? 00:20:26 <Nite> . . 00:20:48 <Eddi|zuHause2> yes, but that is stupid (from my point of view) 00:21:01 <Bjarni> stupid, but possible 00:21:17 <Eddi|zuHause2> the electric engine will be disabled during non-electric travel 00:21:57 <Bjarni> maybe acn isn't aware of this 00:22:01 <Bjarni> anyway time for bed 00:22:05 <Bjarni> goodnight 00:22:10 *** Bjarni [~Bjarni@0x535ca25f.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:24:11 <ln-> so when do we code a new ttd-style game from scratch? 00:24:28 <AmiXwoktest> hehe 00:24:34 <AmiXwoktest> isnt openttd fine? 00:24:37 <ln-> no. 00:25:32 <ln-> it is not extendable, it is not maintainable. 00:26:07 <ln-> it heavily depends on commercial files that are hard to obtain legally. 00:28:01 <ln-> if it was extendable, it would be a matter of hours to add support for e.g. underwater tunnels. 00:30:19 *** G [~njones@202-154-149-198.ubs-dynamic.connections.net.nz] has joined #openttd 00:32:06 *** G_ [~njones@202-154-149-198.ubs-dynamic.connections.net.nz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:39:25 <Eddi|zuHause2> or shunting :p 00:39:33 <Eddi|zuHause2> or PBS :p 00:39:49 <Eddi|zuHause2> or The New Map Array (R) 00:45:23 <Nite> will it realy disabel? wil its % age decay ? 00:45:53 *** ThePizzaKing 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by ChanServ 02:03:10 <Sacro> zomg an orudge 02:06:02 <orudge> lies 02:06:24 <Sacro> i spotted leuchars in the guess the brittish station thread! 02:19:29 <SpComb> lies 03:00:52 *** TinoM| [~Tino@i5387C686.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 03:07:27 *** TinoM [~Tino@i5387CB97.versanet.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:07:39 *** G_ [~njones@202-154-149-198.ubs-dynamic.connections.net.nz] has joined #openttd 03:09:15 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: glx * r11153 /branches/0.5/lang/slovak.txt: [0.5] -Fix [FS#1251]: incorrect usage of {G} tag in slovak translation 03:09:28 *** G [~njones@202-154-149-198.ubs-dynamic.connections.net.nz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:20:32 <Phazorx> anyone alive on this planet? 03:20:50 <glx> I am but not for long ;) 03:22:24 <Phazorx> glx: a server refuses to load a game 03:22:38 <Phazorx> comes up with pregenerated althoug i use -g switch 03:22:50 <Phazorx> what do i need to turn on in debug to figure out why it fdoes it ? 03:22:51 <glx> where is the game ? 03:22:56 <Phazorx> local 03:23:04 <Phazorx> ./save/game65.sav 03:23:24 <glx> -g with full path fails ? 03:23:38 <Phazorx> have only tried relative 03:23:38 <glx> I mean -g save/game65.sav 03:23:42 <Phazorx> nothing realy fails 03:23:50 <Phazorx> it just loads a generated one 03:24:12 <Phazorx> ./openttd -G save/game65.sav -D 0.0.0.0:3980 -d 2 03:24:18 <glx> it's -g 03:24:19 <Phazorx> well small g 03:25:02 <Phazorx> how do i scroll up in screen session :/ 03:25:09 * glx checks source (I think order matters) 03:25:21 <glx> shift-pageup I think 03:25:33 <Phazorx> that's console screen 03:26:01 <Phazorx> oh... it did not find one grf 03:26:04 <Phazorx> could that be it ? 03:26:14 <glx> maybe 03:26:36 *** gfldex_ [~dex@dslb-084-058-039-049.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 03:28:39 <glx> are you sure it's a generated game when it fails? 03:28:46 <glx> it should be intro game 03:29:25 <Phazorx> if i use autopilot it is intro 03:29:32 <Phazorx> i got a generated one once too 03:29:48 <Phazorx> i think it is intro if i dont misspell anything 03:31:01 <glx> -G is for the seed 03:31:27 *** mcbane [~Maui_key@p5498DF1A.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:31:37 <Phazorx> that's what i mean by mispeling 03:31:39 <Phazorx> i think it is grf 03:31:42 <Phazorx> reloading map 03:32:59 * glx goes to sleep 03:33:07 <glx> good night 03:33:32 *** gfldex [~dex@dslb-084-058-058-096.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:33:50 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: bye] 03:34:41 *** mcbane [~Maui_key@p5498CB1A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 03:40:00 *** G [~njones@202-154-149-198.ubs-dynamic.connections.net.nz] has joined #openttd 03:41:48 *** G_ [~njones@202-154-149-198.ubs-dynamic.connections.net.nz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:58:10 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB7114.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Osai] 04:14:38 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-89-217-159-223.adslplus.ch] has joined #openttd 04:29:17 *** 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<Brianetta> I have stumbled upon a freakish coincidence 11:56:59 <Brianetta> The world population at the UNIX epoch 12:06:33 <blathijs> was what? 12:12:40 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 12:12:43 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 12:21:05 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-193-46-fixip.tiscali.ch] has joined #openttd 12:35:16 <Tefad> i'm going to guess 4.3 billion 12:35:29 <Tefad> but that's just a hunch 12:47:19 * Phazorx pings Brianetta 12:51:15 *** nzvip [~svip@192.38.109.188] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:16:05 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB6E3C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 13:17:42 *** orudge [~orudge@88-107-130-38.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #openttd 13:17:44 *** mode/#openttd [+o orudge] by ChanServ 13:23:25 *** [fR4g] [~fr4g@ppp3-144.ciscom.ru] has joined #openttd 13:31:17 *** Greyscale [~Greyscale@host86-131-42-94.range86-131.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 13:33:56 *** Grey 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14:07:28 *** Greyscale [~Greyscale@host86-131-42-94.range86-131.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:13:56 *** Grey [~Greyscale@host86-131-42-94.range86-131.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:17:49 *** Greyscale [~Greyscale@host86-131-34-250.range86-131.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 14:17:52 <skidd13> Any dev comments to FS1090? 14:18:24 *** Grey [~Greyscale@host86-131-34-250.range86-131.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 14:18:40 *** Grey [~Greyscale@host86-131-34-250.range86-131.btcentralplus.com] has quit [] 14:20:19 *** Grey [~Greyscale@host86-131-34-250.range86-131.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 14:21:43 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: bye] 14:28:21 *** Grey [~Greyscale@host86-131-34-250.range86-131.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:29:18 <Belugas> + "cleaner_town_growth", 14:29:18 <Belugas> + "mod_road_rebuild", 14:29:24 *** glx [~glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 14:29:27 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 14:29:27 <Belugas> Yo need otiopns? 14:29:27 <hylje> :o 14:29:31 <hylje> yo 14:30:20 *** Amixwoktest [Michal@cm-84.208.152.166.chello.no] has joined #openttd 14:30:30 <skidd13> Hmm. I prefer to split modifications from the original code 14:33:17 <Belugas> personally, i'm not much in favor of splitting. The option panel is quite populated, imho. If it is a fix, it might as well be an inclusive one. Or maybe attach it to any of the non-original towd road patter maybe? 14:33:28 <Belugas> after all, those are non-original behaviours ;) 14:34:57 <skidd13> If you prefer it this way. 14:35:37 <Belugas> as i said, it is myu opinion. 14:35:41 *** frosch123 [~mtce@pascal.math.tu-clausthal.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:35:44 <Belugas> I do not know what the others think of it 14:36:02 <Belugas> and i'm not only speaking of th other devs ;) 14:36:09 <Belugas> so question is raised 14:36:20 <Belugas> and i'm not going to make a poll :D 14:36:40 * Belugas resumes reading 14:37:07 <skidd13> For + "cleaner_town_growth" I can agree 14:37:07 <skidd13> + "mod_road_rebuild", is a more difficult thing cause it changes the meaning of the RoadReconstruction 14:38:59 *** Arpad [~Gali@tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 14:51:17 *** boekabart [~boekabart@81.58.27.138] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 15:04:16 *** MrBrrr [~chatzilla@bas3-montreal02-1096687742.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #openttd 15:05:22 *** Arpad [~Gali@tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:07:37 <Belugas> could be skidd13. Justnot there yet. work@work is a nightmarish thing today 15:11:15 <skidd13> work@work/uni is a nightmare here too ;) 15:18:49 *** frosch123 [~mtce@pascal.math.tu-clausthal.de] has joined #openttd 15:22:54 *** Arpad [~Gali@sud.globenet.org] has joined #openttd 15:26:08 *** scia [~scia@85.149.96.102] has joined #openttd 15:28:25 *** Digitalfox [~chatzilla@bl7-179-4.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #openttd 15:29:48 *** boekabart [~bdb@ip218-114-173-82.adsl2.versatel.nl] has joined #openttd 15:31:23 *** egladil [~egladil@frukt.csbnet.se] has joined #openttd 15:32:48 *** KouDy [user@85.207.64.178] has joined #openttd 15:36:42 *** glx is now known as glx|away 15:38:39 *** orudge [~orudge@88-107-130-38.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has quit [] 15:48:35 *** Arpad [~Gali@sud.globenet.org] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:50:04 *** orudge [~orudge@88-107-130-38.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #openttd 16:00:24 *** Bjarni [~Bjarni@0x50a41614.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 16:00:25 *** mode/#openttd [+o Bjarni] by ChanServ 16:12:35 *** TinoM [~Tino@i5387C686.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 16:12:41 *** scia [~scia@85.149.96.102] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 16:12:51 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@d51A43614.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 16:19:37 *** Farden [~jk3farden@AMontsouris-156-1-93-235.w90-24.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #openttd 16:22:51 *** frosch123 [~mtce@pascal.math.tu-clausthal.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:24:20 *** raimar3 [~hawk@p5489E59C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 16:26:47 <Belugas> DaleStan, on var 45 of industry (the player info), what return would be required if we're dealing with no owner? 16:27:35 <Belugas> in vehspri.asm:1704, you jump out of the var if it is the case (cmp al,7). 16:28:13 <Belugas> note that i could simply prohibit the callback to be lunch if it is the case, might be easier. Just wondering 16:28:25 <Belugas> err.. callback 1A4, that is... 16:29:21 *** raimar2 [~hawk@p5489B922.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:33:34 <DaleStan> Currently the no-owner return is unspecified. Actual value is 000000010. The low byte is unlikely to change, but the rest may, as some parts are normally dependent on [curplayer], not [esi+<foo>.owner] 16:34:12 <DaleStan> Do not disable callback 14A. Some industries may want to select between some subset of the available colors. 16:35:40 *** Deathmaker [~Miranda@dslb-082-083-198-063.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 16:40:40 *** raimar2 [~hawk@p5489D183.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 16:44:26 <Belugas> Thanks DaleStan. In the case of an owner none, though, c and C could be simply 0? 16:44:26 <Belugas> or does ttdp have some values for it? 16:44:28 <Belugas> (player info 43 for vehicles) 16:44:45 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host240-239-dynamic.15-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 16:46:21 *** raimar3 [~hawk@p5489E59C.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:47:52 *** Hovoere [~dfsf@port525.ds1-ynoe.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 16:49:08 <DaleStan> The only other defined thing Patch could do would be to return the corresponding color for [curplayer] and/or [human1], but the former isn't always reliable, and the latter is not particularly useful. (There's lots of dont-look-at-it-or-you'll-break-it type magic to make vehicle 43 work properly in the purchase window, without using [curplayer].) 16:49:19 *** Arpad [~Gali@tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 16:49:19 <Wolf01> hello 16:51:53 <Belugas> hello Wolf01 16:51:53 <Belugas> DaleStan, that is exactly waht i want to be sure of, for the whole callback system 16:52:31 <Belugas> since var 45 is based on ver 43, that is... 16:53:27 <Wolf01> we Belugas 16:53:52 *** _42_ [truelight@81.171.98.110] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:57:03 *** _42_ [truelight@81.171.98.110] has joined #openttd 16:59:33 *** Wolf01 is now known as Wolf01|AWAY 16:59:42 <DaleStan> indu 45 requires a structure, and is not defined if the owner is not a player. veh var 43 is always available, with or without a structure, and vehicles always have a player-owner. 16:59:56 <DaleStan> And now I'm way late leaving. 17:00:32 <Belugas> so you can stay then :D 17:00:35 <Belugas> thanks 17:03:15 <SpComb> masterserver / servers.openttd.org down? 17:06:21 *** raimar2 [~hawk@p5489D183.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:07:06 <Rubidium> looks like it 17:12:39 *** TinoM [~Tino@i5387C686.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 17:14:32 <SpComb> according to XeryusTC it's been down since yesterday? 17:14:46 <XeryusTC> yes 17:14:52 <XeryusTC> well 17:14:59 <XeryusTC> i heard the devs say it was down yesterday too :P 17:15:21 *** raimar2 [~hawk@p5489C56E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 17:16:32 *** DorpsGek [truelight@81.171.98.110] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:17:36 <orudge> It's not been down since yesterday 17:17:42 <orudge> it just happened to go down yesterday. And conveniently just now, too. 17:20:19 *** DorpsGek [truelight@81.171.98.110] has joined #openttd 17:20:20 *** mode/#openttd [+o DorpsGek] by ChanServ 17:21:06 <orudge> hmm 17:21:07 <orudge> DOS attack 17:21:24 <SpComb> against openttd.org specifically? 17:22:07 <orudge> no 17:22:33 *** scia [~scia@85.149.96.102] has joined #openttd 17:22:38 <SpComb> ICMP pings get through fine, but HTTP and the UDP master-server queries don't 17:22:56 * SpComb heads to the store 17:32:30 *** Brianetta [~brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [Quit: TschÃŒÃ] 17:33:55 *** orudge [~orudge@88-107-130-38.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has quit [] 17:34:21 *** raimar2 [~hawk@p5489C56E.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:34:31 *** orudge [~orudge@88-107-130-38.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #openttd 17:37:59 *** Deathmaker [~Miranda@dslb-082-083-198-063.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:43:50 <orudge> I think that's it under control 17:45:51 *** raimar2 [~hawk@p5489C56E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 17:47:09 *** Wezz6400 [~Wezz6400@145-118-111-234.fttx.bbned.nl] has joined #openttd 18:01:59 *** SpComb^_ [terom@zapotek.paivola.fi] has joined #openttd 18:05:36 *** SpComb [terom@zapotek.paivola.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:06:46 *** Administrator_ [~Administr@x037133.its-s.tudelft.nl] has joined #openttd 18:09:51 *** skidd13 [~skidd13@p548A60B0.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #openttd [] 18:10:00 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1E861.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:16:18 *** Arpad [~Gali@tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:17:51 * Purno pokes scia in the eyes 18:19:42 *** Brianetta [~brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 18:21:07 *** You're now known as SpComb 18:25:31 <boekabart> Purno: How is DutchSet coming along? 18:25:36 <boekabart> getting close? 18:26:30 <Purno> boekabart , nopes, progress is on halt 18:26:31 *** Wezz6400 [~Wezz6400@145-118-111-234.fttx.bbned.nl] has quit [Quit: brb] 18:27:02 *** Wezz6400 [~Wezz6400@145-118-111-234.fttx.bbned.nl] has joined #openttd 18:27:05 <boekabart> ow? 18:27:08 <boekabart> how come 18:27:26 <Purno> because the full coding team (hyro and me) have other hobbies to spend times on nowadays 18:27:49 <boekabart> shame... so much work 'lost' on hold :( 18:28:51 *** Hovoere [~dfsf@port525.ds1-ynoe.adsl.cybercity.dk] has quit [] 18:30:00 <Purno> yep, but if you're volunteering to continue... ;) 18:30:34 <Phazorx> !was thre a nighty released already today? 18:31:03 <boekabart> Purno: depends what needs to be done 18:31:07 *** Arpad [~Gali@tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 18:31:16 <boekabart> grf-coding is not my specialty (as in, never done it :) ) 18:31:38 <Rubidium> Phazorx: how hard is it to find out yourself? 18:31:56 *** Grey [~Greyscale@host86-131-34-250.range86-131.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 18:31:59 <Phazorx> considering i just woke up - very :) 18:32:06 <Purno> boekabart , we use GRF Maker 18:32:08 <Purno> it's not that hard 18:32:12 <Phazorx> timezone maths will not compute at this time with me 18:32:24 <Purno> but it's mainly coding which needs to be done 18:33:10 <Rubidium> Phazorx: just type nightly.openttd.org in "random" browser 18:33:20 *** Arpad [~Gali@tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:33:35 *** raimar3 [~hawk@p5489B89E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 18:34:00 *** Digitalfox [~chatzilla@bl7-179-4.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Quit: Bye] 18:34:10 *** KritiK [~Maxim@78-106-152-231.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 18:34:16 *** Grey_ [~Greyscale@host86-131-34-250.range86-131.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 18:36:54 <boekabart> Purno: what does the coding consist of? 18:37:17 <Purno> it's mainly drag and drop interface where you fill in some fields 18:37:42 <Purno> you still have to know some NFO tricks, but I'm sure you can find help with that. 18:37:51 <Purno> actually, most of the special tricks already have been done 18:37:55 <Purno> so there's already examples in the file 18:38:05 <Purno> it just needs to be combined and copied for other trains 18:38:36 *** Greyscale [~Greyscale@host86-131-34-250.range86-131.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:38:41 *** raimar2 [~hawk@p5489C56E.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:38:43 <Purno> e.g. combining a year depenant livery like train A has with a consist depenandent livery like train B has for train C. 18:39:58 *** Grey [~Greyscale@host86-131-34-250.range86-131.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:40:40 <Bjarni> I just had the worst timing ever. Some guy PMed me a moment after I left the computer, waited 40 minutes for a reply and left 3 minutes before I returned :( 18:40:54 <hylje> haha 18:41:03 <hylje> serves you right for being afk 18:41:25 <Bjarni> now I guess I have to call him 18:41:35 *** Arpad [~Gali@tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 18:42:52 *** Grey_ [~Greyscale@host86-131-34-250.range86-131.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 18:43:05 <Phazorx> Rubidium: i got one for ya 18:43:11 <Phazorx> another coopers desync 18:43:20 <Phazorx> on r11118 18:44:27 <Phazorx> this time guaranteed in 6 days from save start 18:46:33 *** Arpad [~Gali@tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:47:17 <Bjarni> save that savegame well 18:47:23 <boekabart> Purno: wellaa... 18:47:29 <boekabart> how could i get started? 18:47:35 <Bjarni> I mean... make sure you don't accidentally overwrite it 18:47:45 <Purno> boekabart , what do you know about dutch trains? 18:48:01 <Phazorx> http://openttdcoop.ppcis.org/blog/files/phazorx/desyncs.at.February.5th.sav 18:49:43 *** prakti [~prakti@port-213-148-152-8.static.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 18:50:24 <boekabart> Purno: a lot 18:50:44 <boekabart> about the passenger ones, more than about freight ones 18:51:07 <boekabart> although i just moved and now have a good view of the 4 track line departing from eindhoven north 18:51:22 <boekabart> so I see (and hear) my share of freight trains now 18:51:25 <Purno> boekabart , awesome 18:51:48 <Purno> I guess I could just send you the file and you can install GRF maker and try some thingies with it :) 18:51:55 <boekabart> good plan 18:52:19 <boekabart> yesterday I went to den bosch - the IRM to tilburg went side-by-side all the way until after boxtel - awesome view 18:52:47 <Bjarni> heh 18:53:19 <Bjarni> it's always nice to have a good view 18:53:26 <Bjarni> while driving 18:56:09 <boekabart> actually 'my 18:56:15 <boekabart> driver didn;t see it 18:56:27 <boekabart> the tilburg one was about 1 car behind 18:56:30 <hylje> heh 18:57:27 <Bjarni> I was once in a train, that overtook the train I was suppose to get on (hence I switched at the next station) 18:57:38 <hylje> heh 18:57:47 <hylje> i dont get that much 18:57:53 <Bjarni> kind of funny to see our own train driving while I drove like 10 km/h faster 18:57:56 *** Arpad [~Gali@tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 18:58:10 <hylje> i dont get that good schedules when it comes to overtaking 18:58:52 <Bjarni> it was kind of a rare moment... you see it was the short distance where two lines are right next to each other 18:59:31 <hylje> heh 18:59:44 <hylje> here it's LRRL all the way 19:00:30 <Purno> boekabart , you got a PM at the forums 19:01:17 <hylje> you silly danes have your rails all over the place :> 19:01:48 <Bjarni> no 19:01:55 <Bjarni> just in the Copenhagen area 19:02:36 <Bjarni> go to Jylland and if you find some rails, then it's most likely single tracked without catenary 19:03:08 <Bjarni> and without block signals, so there are no signals outside the stations, hence long distance between the trains 19:03:36 <boekabart> Purno: thx 19:04:01 <hylje> oh noes :p 19:05:00 <Sacro> oh noes? 19:07:21 <hylje> lack of block signals! 19:07:39 <Bjarni> well 19:07:45 <Bjarni> they have a bunch of stations 19:08:51 <Bjarni> even stations without platforms 19:09:25 <hylje> ! 19:11:10 <Bjarni> in railroad terms, a station is a place with an entrance and an exit signals 19:11:18 <Bjarni> and usually switches as well 19:11:43 <SpComb> yes! The username.myottd.net/servername urls now actually work ;) 19:11:44 <hylje> what about a location where a train usually stops to take and drop cargo 19:11:56 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r11154 /trunk/src/music/win32_m.cpp: -Fix [FS#1239]: MIDI failing to play under Windows 95, 98 and ME. 19:12:08 <Bjarni> a "station" without signals is just a platform outside a station (we have a name for it... one I'm not sure how to translate) 19:12:21 <SpComb> having the username as a subdomain is great, the myottd servers don't cluster together in the server list anymore, and the first thing that hits the eye is the username, which is better than having them all be "MyOTTD" 19:12:24 <Phazorx> Rubidium: please take a look at that save 19:12:52 <Rubidium> since which revision is it desyncing? 19:13:07 <Phazorx> well i'd assume it is a oneoff of some kind 19:13:16 <Phazorx> since this is 3rd game we have with same rev 19:13:29 <Phazorx> but it started desyncing suddenly in a middle of it 19:13:37 <Phazorx> there are only 60 trains 19:13:52 <Phazorx> and i tried restarteign server - but that has no affect 19:13:58 <Rubidium> then it's probably a train you haven't used in the previous games 19:14:11 <Phazorx> we have diff trainset 19:14:15 <Bjarni> you can desync with just one train if that train can trigger the desync 19:14:36 <Phazorx> Bjarni: obviously, but usualy it takes much large game to show 19:14:53 <Phazorx> cuz some things are statistical by nature 19:14:58 <Phazorx> and more vehicles means more chances 19:15:02 <Bjarni> more trains: higher probability of one of the trains to trigger the issue 19:15:06 *** Digitalfox [~chatzilla@bl7-179-4.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #openttd 19:15:07 <Phazorx> exactly 19:15:34 <Bjarni> but for all we know, the desync could be caused by something else, like a town growth or similar 19:15:53 <Phazorx> well, my Q is - can it be looked at and mitigated 19:16:04 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r11155 /trunk/src/fileio.cpp: 19:16:04 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: -Fix [FS#1253]: work around a nasty MS CRT 8 SP1 bug making it virtually 19:16:04 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: impossible to debug 32bpp games under MSVC 19:16:04 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: (http://connect.microsoft.com/VisualStudio/feedback/ViewFeedback.aspx?FeedbackID=257606). 19:16:04 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: Patch by boekabart. 19:16:28 <hylje> windows workarounds ;_; 19:16:33 <Phazorx> given that there is only 6 days and 60 trains, should be not that hard to dig through log 19:16:46 *** DeGhosty [~c4co