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00:07:51 <Eddi|zuHause> glx: but building an airport removes a damn lot of trees again 00:08:05 <glx> not a problem ;) 00:08:12 <glx> the airport is built 00:08:39 <Eddi|zuHause> it is a real problem if you want do build a station of several pieces 00:09:17 <Eddi|zuHause> either you place the pieces individually, then you run out of "rating" with a half built station 00:09:37 <Eddi|zuHause> or you build a big station, and replace the station tiles 00:10:20 <Eddi|zuHause> which means you immediately run out of "rating", and they refuse the rebuilding (which is kinda stupid anyway, it is already your station) 00:15:55 <huma> they apparently don't like when you build roads as well 00:16:03 <huma> that is really weird 00:28:43 <huma> what's funny though - to rename a town doesn't cost me anything :) even if i call them the f-word, they won't mind :) 00:36:42 *** Digitalfox [~chatzilla@bl7-183-28.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Quit: Bye] 00:37:13 *** Bjarni [~Bjarni@62.243.161.205] has quit 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<Ammler> mattt: http://openttdcoop.ppcis.org 03:33:37 *** _Ben_ [~Ben@81.5.169.44] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:35:31 *** toresbe_ [~toresbe@89.10.27.159] has joined #openttd 03:37:14 *** toresbe [~toresbe@89.10.27.159] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:42:51 *** rat [~esa@c-24-17-115-250.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [] 03:54:39 *** nairan_ZZzz [~Maui_key@p5498F1E1.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:54:40 *** mcbane_sleep [~Maui_key@p5498E03C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 04:08:47 *** toresbe_ is now known as toresbe 04:14:13 *** mcbane_sleep is now known as mcbane 04:26:04 *** Rafagd [~kvirc@BHE200150043140.res-com.wayinternet.com.br] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:26:38 <mattt__> do airports automatically give you an appalling rating with the local authority? 04:30:50 <Rubidium> nope, but crashing vehicles do 04:32:43 <mattt__> I built an airport in a town on the side of the map opposite where all my other construction is and got an appalling rating immediately.. reloaded and tried building further from town but go the same thing 04:32:48 <mattt__> crashing is turned off 04:33:32 <Rubidium> destroying trees (during the build) does lower your rating too 04:33:54 <mattt__> hm.. yeah, i built reams of trees 04:33:55 <Rubidium> and maybe some other stuff as you say you're running ChrisIN 04:34:03 <mattt__> and i just tried bribing too 04:34:11 <mattt__> how long does that take to have an affect? 04:34:44 <mattt__> effect 04:34:56 <Rubidium> building trees and bribing should have an immediate effect 04:35:35 <mattt__> :| 04:35:41 <mattt__> they must really hate me 04:37:02 <mattt__> and i was nice enough to build them an airport 04:39:11 <Rubidium> could ofcourse be that someone messed up the town rating stuff in ChrisIN. 04:40:29 <mattt__> >_< 04:40:36 <mattt__> i'm doing well in a couple other towns 04:40:47 <mattt__> outstanding, in fact :P 04:57:10 *** ThePizzaKing 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/trunk/src/oldloader.cpp: -Fix r11228: the moreanimation feature made loading TTD(p) games impossible (Csaboka) 11:48:24 *** Deathmaker [~Miranda@dslb-082-083-202-074.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:51:47 *** skidd13 [~skidd13@p548A7C06.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 11:51:49 *** skidd13 [~skidd13@p548A7C06.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #openttd [] 11:55:03 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77CD9.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:55:18 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77CD9.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 11:57:12 <huma> "bridges over anything" looks ugly 11:57:50 <Ammller> huma: depense on the bridge, I like it. 11:58:36 <huma> check this out: http://openttdcoop.ppcis.org/blog/files/pictures/terminus_tutorial/terminus_step_06.png 11:59:41 <Ammller> hmm, and why is that ugly? 12:00:11 <huma> looks hackish to me. the idea is good though. 12:00:15 <Ammller> (x doesn't work on screenshots :/ ) 12:00:54 <Ammller> omg, 2way signals 12:01:13 <huma> new industries is a great feature 12:01:22 <Ammller> thats the only ugly thing I see there. 12:01:39 *** Purno [~Purno@5357D37C.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 12:03:12 <Ammller> huma: you leave the topic... 12:05:32 *** Brianetta [~brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 12:11:20 *** KritiK [~Maxim@78-106-136-243.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 12:13:50 *** frosch123 [~mtce@pascal.math.tu-clausthal.de] has joined #openttd 12:15:29 <Ailure> [13:55] <huma> "bridges over anything" looks ugly 12:15:29 <Ailure> [13:56] <Ammller> huma: depense on the bridge, I like it. 12:15:29 <Ailure> [13:57] <huma> check this out: http://openttdcoop.ppcis.org/blog/files/pictures/terminus_tutorial/terminus_step_06.png 12:15:33 <Ailure> dosen't look too ugly 12:16:03 <Ailure> it's worse with Pikka's viaduct bridge :P 12:16:20 <Ailure> where diagonal rail can hit the foundation the bridge uses 12:16:32 <Ailure> but it's a such small detail it dosen't really bother me too much 12:20:34 <Amixosx> http://home.powertech.no/micbergs/OpenTTD/Gronningley1986.png 12:20:35 <Amixosx> :D 12:21:03 <Amixosx> http://home.powertech.no/micbergs/OpenTTD/tramroutes.png 12:22:22 *** Dark_Link^ [~glidegame@fw.dormnet.his.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:22:33 *** Dark_Link^ [~glidegame@fw.dormnet.his.se] has joined #openttd 12:37:12 <Ailure> hheh 12:37:16 <Ailure> added thoose overlays manually? 12:40:54 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@snat1.spoje.net] has joined #openttd 12:46:16 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 12:46:19 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 12:46:30 *** mattt_ [~m@S010600e02995cf26.su.shawcable.net] has joined #openttd 12:47:52 *** |Bastiaan| [~kvirc@77.60.199.137] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:47:59 *** Ammller [~Ammler@adsl-89-217-45-118.adslplus.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:48:20 *** |Bastiaan| [~kvirc@77.60.199.137] 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<Jolty|OTTD> Can anyone help me with this: Does anyone notice anything wrong with this station, they refuse to leave the station, is it le fuxxoring my network: http://www.theskyisnotblue.com/images/screenshots/ottd/brokestation.png (460KB) 15:20:57 * dihedral|work greets 15:21:20 <Jolty|OTTD> They stop at the end of the station tile, and turn back into the station :| 15:21:32 <hylje> elrail 15:22:04 <Jolty|OTTD> The station is electrified. (if thats what you mean) 15:22:21 <Jolty|OTTD> You can see the electic line just above the train in station. 15:22:43 <hylje> its the prime reason trains wont go somewhere 15:23:01 <dihedral|work> try converting the entire bunch again 15:23:05 <dihedral|work> perhaps you missed a tile 15:23:25 <Jolty|OTTD> Hmm, let me try that.. 15:23:31 <dihedral|work> lol 15:24:10 *** gfldex [~dex@dslb-084-058-083-222.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:24:29 *** KouDy [user@85.207.64.178] has joined #openttd 15:25:41 <Jolty|OTTD> Is there any way to delete the trains in the station, so I can just rebuild the station? 15:27:20 *** frosch123 [~mtce@pascal.math.tu-clausthal.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:28:05 <Belugas> put a depot upward, send them to the new depot 15:28:05 <dihedral|work> remove a rail that joins to the staion, build a depot in it's place, and send the tains into the depot 15:28:15 <Belugas> lol 15:28:18 <Belugas> yeah 15:28:22 * dihedral|work beat Belugas to it 15:28:38 <Jolty|OTTD> oh 15:28:40 <Jolty|OTTD> Duh. 15:28:43 <Jolty|OTTD> lol 15:28:59 <dihedral|work> yes 15:29:46 <dihedral|work> it would be nice to have an advanced rail tile 15:29:58 <dihedral|work> that has a variable yapf penalty :-) 15:30:14 *** AntB [~AntB-UK@81.140.83.104] has quit [Quit: *poof!* I am gone -=- Using ChatZilla] 15:30:16 <Jolty|OTTD> Ugh, this council is so getting on my nipples. 15:30:18 <dihedral|work> and a 'penalty mesuring tool' 15:30:42 *** AntB [~AntB-UK@81.140.83.104] has joined #openttd 15:30:43 * dihedral|work does not want to know what gets on Jolty|OTTD's nipples 15:30:54 <Jolty|OTTD> >__< 15:31:03 * dihedral|work feels sick 15:32:26 <dihedral|work> :-P 15:32:38 <Belugas> Jolty|OTTD,plant trees. A lot. Towns love trees 15:32:45 <SpComb> tree-hugging hippies 15:32:49 * Belugas pities dihedral|work 15:32:50 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-89-217-45-118.adslplus.ch] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:32:59 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-89-217-45-118.adslplus.ch] has joined #openttd 15:33:31 *** raimar3 [~hawk@p5489EB32.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 15:34:16 <dihedral|work> thanks Belugas, doing a lot better now :-P 15:35:32 <dihedral|work> SpComb: i'd rather hug trees than paying people to 'be blind' 15:36:00 <Jolty|OTTD> lol 15:36:04 *** Jolty|OTTD is now known as Jolteon 15:40:44 *** raimar2 [~hawk@p5489BB1C.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:41:16 <CIA-5> OpenTTD: belugas * r11246 /trunk/src/tree_cmd.cpp: -Codechange: beautify some conditions from "if else" into trinary operator 15:41:20 <Belugas> trees are popular today ;) 15:41:44 <hylje> Belugas: ternary 15:42:08 <Sacro> Belugas: i second hylje 15:42:26 <hylje> piggybacker 15:43:25 * Belugas mumbles 15:43:51 <SpComb> ternary is more beautiful than if/else? 15:45:09 <hylje> x if a else y 15:46:25 <Sacro> mmm 15:47:10 <SpComb> a and 'x' or 'y' 15:47:15 <SpComb> krk 15:49:12 <hylje> ('x', 'y')[bool(a)] 15:50:17 <Belugas> SpComb, we do believe it is, yes 15:50:49 *** SmatZ [~smatz@a40-prg1-5-107.static.adsl.vol.cz] has joined #openttd 15:53:52 <SpComb> h.iif(a, 'x', 'y') 15:54:14 <Eddi|zuHause> probably depends on the complexity of the expression 15:54:44 <SpComb> ternary inline, if/else otherwise, and someone tell that to the phpBB2 devs 15:55:13 <SpComb> they have lots of top-level multi-line ternary expressions in their code 15:55:43 <hylje> bad developers with a bad language 15:55:59 <Eddi|zuHause> don't use functions, use expressions with side effects 15:56:16 *** glx|away is now known as glx 15:58:39 *** boekabart [~boekabart@81.58.27.138] has left #openttd [] 15:59:38 *** dihedral|work is now known as dihedral|away 16:00:27 <dihedral|away> laters - my fellow tree-huggers 16:01:58 *** mikl [~mikl@0x57372ee2.mrbnqu1.broadband.tele.dk] has quit [Quit: Connection reset by Peer Gynt] 16:02:00 <Eddi|zuHause> happy tree friends? :p 16:02:06 <Sacro> ack 16:02:09 <Sacro> they scare me 16:04:30 <huma> guido doesn't think ternary is beautiful. although, i like it. it's concise. 16:05:46 <Belugas> i think it's the point that makes us liking it :) 16:06:50 <Belugas> lunch time 16:09:01 *** SmatZ [~smatz@a40-prg1-5-107.static.adsl.vol.cz] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 16:12:35 *** SmatZ [~smatz@a40-prg1-5-107.static.adsl.vol.cz] has joined #openttd 16:12:57 <Ailure> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=325091&threshold=1&commentsort=0&mode=thread&cid=20940573 <-- Someone mod this guy up. D: 16:12:58 <Ailure> lol 16:13:05 <Ailure> :P 16:13:36 <toresbe> hmm 16:13:41 * Sacro listens 16:13:47 <toresbe> I have an inexplicable urge to write a SimTower clone. 16:14:25 <Sacro> :o 16:14:28 <Sacro> i like this idea 16:14:41 <toresbe> first I need to play it some more, though. 16:14:48 <Ailure> heh Simtower 16:14:52 <Ailure> the elevator simulator 16:14:56 <toresbe> hehe yeah 16:15:06 <toresbe> i've got some good ideas for it, I think. 16:15:16 <toresbe> You wouldn't happen to know if Windows 3.11 could run on top of FreeDOS? 16:15:22 <Ailure> It should be 16:15:25 <Sacro> i think it can 16:15:27 <Ailure> Win 3.11 runs in Dosbox 16:15:35 <Ailure> infact 16:15:38 <toresbe> I know, but I want to run it native, off a USB stick 16:15:41 <Ailure> Win 3.11 runs n most DOS clones 16:15:49 <Ailure> this been known for quite awhile 16:15:59 <Ailure> Microsoft dosen't support it when run on DOS clones though. 16:16:07 <Ailure> Then, Microsoft hadn't supported Win 3.X for ages :) 16:16:15 <toresbe> yeah :) 16:16:18 <Sacro> and apple won't support my hackintosh either 16:16:46 <Ailure> Win 3.11 can even run NTFS partitions fine 16:16:49 <Ailure> if you use the NTFS dos driver 16:17:00 <toresbe> hah, cool 16:19:27 *** mucht_work [~martin@143.50.125.77] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 16:20:00 <toresbe> augh, crap 16:20:14 * toresbe just remembered that his mobo's USB is shot. 16:20:50 <toresbe> Disk /dev/hda: 20.8 GB, 20847697920 bytes 16:20:54 <toresbe> /dev/hda1 * 1 2501 20089251 83 Linux 16:20:54 <toresbe> /dev/hda2 2502 2534 265072+ 82 Linux swap / Solaris 16:21:04 <toresbe> could I use /dev/hda2 as a DOS boot drive? 16:21:38 <ln-> theoretically, maybe, but i wouldn't count on that... 16:23:53 <Ailure> as long it's not a extended partition 16:23:55 <Ailure> it should work 16:24:20 <toresbe> cool 16:26:29 <ln-> Ailure: even at that well-beyond-1024-cylinders location? 16:26:48 <Ailure> ah wait 16:26:52 <Ailure> is that a cylinder count? 16:27:11 <ln-> probably no. 16:27:17 <Ailure> well 16:27:21 <Ailure> it depends on what DOS he chooses too 16:27:25 <Ailure> MS-DOS might have problems 16:27:28 <Ailure> I doubt Freedos would 16:27:42 <Ailure> I'm going to check 16:30:28 <Ailure> seems like the only harddrive related limit is the "can only boot from a primary partition" limit 16:32:29 <toresbe> cool 16:32:35 <toresbe> thanks. I'll try it now 16:32:48 <Sacro> heh 16:32:55 <Sacro> why are you installing DOS/3.11? 16:32:58 <Ailure> I looked for any limits in the install guide 16:33:10 <Ailure> didn't find any 16:33:12 <Ailure> for FreeDOS 16:33:22 <toresbe> Sacro: hey, I figger' why not :) 16:33:32 <Ailure> well 16:33:33 <toresbe> I could install Windows 95 instead, I guess. 16:33:38 <Ailure> if you have old DOS programs you want to run 16:33:43 <toresbe> but that's not as easy to find. 16:33:46 <Ailure> and DOSBox dosen't work too well 16:33:53 <toresbe> oh 16:33:54 <Ailure> I guess installing Freedos and run stuff from that works 16:33:58 <toresbe> it's a performance thing 16:34:05 <toresbe> simtower has a fast mode, which is like openttd's. 16:34:15 *** Bjarni [~Bjarni@0x50a4160d.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 16:34:19 *** mode/#openttd [+o Bjarni] by ChanServ 16:34:20 <Sacro> zomg Bjarni 16:34:29 <toresbe> Even though I use dosbox on an AMD 3800+, the machine is still quite slow. 16:34:59 <Ailure> There's a DOS version of Simtower? 16:35:09 <Sacro> i can run it fine under XP 16:35:26 <Ailure> I can't imagine Simtower suffering under running in Wine too 16:35:34 <toresbe> Ailure: no, but Win 3.1 runs very happily under Dosbox. 16:35:41 <toresbe> crashes wine with an 0xFFFF reference 16:36:37 <Bjarni> Sacro: I see that you have tried to drive a train 16:36:39 <Bjarni> but.... 16:36:44 <Sacro> Bjarni: i derailed a few 16:36:44 <Bjarni> don't drink and drive :P 16:37:02 <Bjarni> http://darkmonkey.org.uk/4/1/vias.jpg 16:37:10 <Sacro> hehe 16:37:12 <Sacro> that picture is amusing 16:37:27 <Bjarni> actually the cause of this is the sun 16:37:32 <toresbe> yeah 16:37:36 <toresbe> same problem in Norway. 16:37:39 <Bjarni> it heats up the metal and the rails becomes longer 16:37:49 <toresbe> Rail workers have been killed by the incredible forces that build up in rails 16:37:50 <Bjarni> and it gives in at a poorly maintained location 16:38:00 <Bjarni> killed? 16:38:01 <Ailure> hmm 16:38:16 <Bjarni> we only get speed restrictions 16:38:19 <Ailure> that sounds like if ou are trying to hold the shape of the rails too sharply 16:38:20 <toresbe> Bjarni: yeah. They're maintaining the track, and suddenly it gives in, in the general direction of the worker 16:38:27 <Bjarni> like 80 km/h instead of 180 km/h 16:38:41 <toresbe> but you've got a flat country :) 16:38:52 <Bjarni> so? 16:39:12 <toresbe> the Norwegian Dovrebanen is ⊠in a different league :) 16:39:31 <Ailure> heh 16:39:37 <Ailure> I remember being in Norway 16:39:40 <Ailure> hardly a flat country 16:39:42 <toresbe> So do I! 16:39:48 <toresbe> 'cause I live there :) 16:39:56 <Ailure> I was up in Dalarna once 16:40:01 <Ailure> then went to Trondeheim for a bit 16:40:09 <toresbe> Trondheim is wonderful. I miss it. 16:40:10 <Ailure> and was in norway for about a week at diffrent location 16:40:16 <toresbe> But my heart lies here in Oslo, I fear. 16:40:23 *** Strid [gg@c-4d94e355.013-46-6c6b7013.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #openttd 16:42:34 *** gfldex [~dex@dslb-084-058-087-045.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 16:43:58 *** dihedral [~dihedral@dslb-084-057-226-046.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 16:44:28 <dihedral> whasssuuuuuup 16:44:45 <Bjarni> not your u key 16:45:36 <dihedral> would have said "whasssUUUUUUUp" in that case :-D 16:45:45 <Bjarni> no 16:45:46 <Sacro> whassuuuuuuuuuUUUUUUUUUUUUUUuuuuuuuuuuuUUUUUUUUUUUUUUp 16:45:51 <Bjarni> because that would be the shift key 16:46:16 <hylje> u 16:46:30 <dihedral> actually - my u key is about the smae height to my w and p keys 16:46:35 <dihedral> *same 16:47:53 <dihedral> Mark will be back next week btw 16:48:23 <dihedral> heh - wrong window :-P 16:52:15 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host240-239-dynamic.15-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 16:52:56 <Wolf01> hello 17:00:46 * Bjarni notes that he should help to prepare a welcome home surprise party for Mark 17:00:53 <Bjarni> whoever that might be :P 17:00:54 <Bjarni> bbl 17:13:37 *** Wezz6400 [~Wezz6400@145-118-111-234.fttx.bbned.nl] has joined #openttd 17:14:34 *** Brianetta [~brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:20:50 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@d51A43614.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 17:25:15 *** orudge [orudge@78.32.42.132] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:25:35 *** orudge [orudge@pc.lan.owenrudge.net] has joined #openttd 17:25:35 *** mode/#openttd [+o orudge] by ChanServ 17:29:31 <Eddi|zuHause> hm... i cannot check TTDP 17:29:45 <Sacro> orudge: how'd you get that netmask? D: 17:32:21 <Bjarni> well, he owns that domain 17:32:36 <Bjarni> but it would still be nice to know how he managed to do it ;) 17:33:00 <Prof_Frink> Bjarni: He is SROTU 17:33:26 <Bjarni> SROTU? 17:33:38 <Sacro> i own a domain 17:33:46 <Sacro> this is pc.benwoodward.me.uk 17:33:49 <Bjarni> I just said that 17:33:56 <Bjarni> err 17:34:00 <Prof_Frink> Supreme and complete Ruler Of The Universe and multiverse 17:34:02 <Bjarni> you do...? 17:34:13 <Bjarni> Prof_Frink: you called? 17:34:38 <Prof_Frink> Bjarni: The full form of SROTU 17:35:01 <Bjarni> so SROTU is short for Bjarni... nice to know 17:35:32 <Prof_Frink> Well, SROTU is the short acronym ;) 17:37:06 <Sacro> and orudge is a short person 17:37:31 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@d51A43614.access.telenet.be] has quit [Quit: oO] 17:37:38 *** elmex [~elmex@e180067116.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 17:38:37 *** elmex [~elmex@e180067116.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 17:41:09 <Bjarni> orudge: back to the question... how did you managed to get that domain name into IRC? 17:41:37 <DaleStan> The Proper reverse DNS entries. 17:42:12 <Sacro> DaleStan: Yes, I thought as much, but I have no idea how to do this :( 17:42:30 <Bjarni> the question is how to do it, not what happened ;) 17:42:59 *** prakti [~prakti@port-213-148-152-8.static.qsc.de] has quit [Quit: Quitting .... Hackedi...hackedi...weg.] 17:43:10 <DaleStan> You have to start by controlling the DNS and RDNS for the IP address from which you connect. 17:43:34 <DaleStan> After that, I don't know much about it either, since I've never owned an IP address. 17:44:01 <Sacro> well I am static IP, and I own a domain 17:44:16 <Bjarni> you ARE a static IP? 17:44:22 <dihedral> LOL 17:44:29 <hylje> that explains a thing or two 17:45:08 <Sacro> Bjarni: adding an "a" adds a whole different meaning 17:45:17 <Bjarni> you ARE static IP? 17:45:51 <Eddi|zuHause> so it is a difference if i say "i am god" or "i am a god" :p 17:46:03 <Bjarni> yeah 17:46:20 <Bjarni> the latter shows signs of being a polytheist 17:46:42 *** RamboRonny [magic.powe@90-230-201-111-no37.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [Quit: - nbs-irc 2.36 - www.nbs-irc.net -] 17:46:57 <Eddi|zuHause> at least it sounds better than SROTU ;p 17:46:59 <DaleStan> But it isn't *your* IP, Sacro. It belongs to your ISP, and they run the reverse DNS. You might be able to ask them nicely to change it. 17:47:00 <Prof_Frink> I am. 17:49:14 <Sacro> DaleStan: ah, I see your point 17:50:18 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@d51A43614.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 17:50:34 *** RamboRonny [magic.powe@90-230-201-111-no37.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #openttd 17:51:56 <Eddi|zuHause> how do you actually get to own an IP? 17:53:13 <|Jeroen|> you buy one 17:53:28 <Bjarni> the ISPs buys them 17:53:41 <Bjarni> and I guess they will sell one to you if you offer enough money 17:53:59 <Bjarni> usually private people have nothing to use it for though 17:55:24 *** Amixosx [~AmiXoamip@cm-84.208.143.45.chello.no] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:55:31 <|Jeroen|> i guess you have to buy them by the 254 17:55:49 <Bjarni> don't be too sure 17:56:28 <|Jeroen|> im not :-) 17:56:44 <Bjarni> I presume that specially in Asia they do fucked up stuff like selling minimal amounts of IPs (Asia seriously lack free IPs) 17:56:58 *** Amixosx [~AmiXoamip@cm-84.208.143.45.chello.no] has joined #openttd 17:57:05 <Bjarni> they simply don't have enough to sell 254 to a single company if they are only going to use say 50 17:57:23 <|Jeroen|> that sucks 17:57:39 <dihedral> anybody here live in sweeden 17:57:46 <Bjarni> USA took most of them, then Europe took more or less the rest and the rest of the world hides behind NATs and stuff 17:58:00 <Bjarni> because the global IPs are in use elsewhere 17:58:15 <dihedral> uni networks 17:58:21 <dihedral> they use a bunch 17:58:28 <Bjarni> Africa could have the same problem, but they lack both computers and IPs. Asia are really gaining on the number of computers with net access 17:58:46 <dihedral> hide all of asia behind ONE nat :-D 17:59:00 <|Jeroen|> yeah 127.0.0.2 or somthing :-) 17:59:16 * Belugas awaits for ip6 17:59:19 <|Jeroen|> ow well they better get ipv6 moving 17:59:25 <orudge> [18:29:43] <Sacro> orudge: how'd you get that netmask? D: <-- my ISP lets me set up my own RDNS 17:59:26 *** RamboRonny [magic.powe@90-230-201-111-no37.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:59:26 <Bjarni> I think USA has around 50% of all IPs 17:59:45 <|Jeroen|> then we should go kick some usa ass and steal them back 17:59:52 <Bjarni> not that they use that many, but they took whole ranges at first and then other countries came too late to claim enough 18:00:08 <Sacro> Bjarni: http://xkcd.com/195/ 18:00:31 <Bjarni> USA took them at a time where the number of IP4 IPs appeared as endless as IP6 does today 18:01:00 <orudge> My ISP is better than Sacro's, basically 18:01:02 <orudge> in many ways :D 18:01:15 <Sacro> yes... mine is crappy 18:01:20 <Sacro> orudge: isn't yours torch? 18:01:33 <orudge> torch? 18:01:45 * orudge is with an Entanet reseller 18:01:47 <Sacro> Torch Communications 18:01:59 <orudge> never heard of them 18:02:03 <|Jeroen|> if that maps is correctn europa has way more then usa 18:02:54 <Bjarni> Sacro: yeah... you can see how American companies took a whole lot of it 18:03:18 <|Jeroen|> reclaim 18:03:44 <|Jeroen|> why would boing need a whole range 18:03:47 <|Jeroen|> boeing 18:03:53 <Bjarni> Asia Pacific has 16 (+2 for Japan only) even though they have like half of the world population 18:04:22 <orudge> I think GE or something owns 4.*.*.*, yet their web site is on a 216.*.*.* IP. So even when they have an entire class A, they still nick IPs from elsewhere 18:05:03 <orudge> The University of St Andrews has 138.251.*.* - pretty much each networkable device has its own globally addressable addres 18:05:11 <Bjarni> the whole IPv4 claiming issue is a joke. We should take better care with IPv6 18:05:20 <Bjarni> and switch to IPv6 ASAP 18:05:22 <|Jeroen|> yeah it should be only rentable 18:05:36 <Bjarni> even though the backbone is hardcoded IPv4, so it could take a while 18:05:50 <|Jeroen|> well asap would be kinda hard i guess, almost all routers would have to be flashed or replaced 18:05:55 <|Jeroen|> well home routers i mean 18:06:12 <Eddi|zuHause> my university has 141.48.*.* i believe 18:06:36 <Bjarni> ASAP = As Soon As Possible, which is not tomorrow due to the backbone routers and gateways are IPv4 18:06:46 <Bjarni> home routers aren't an issue here 18:06:50 <Bjarni> the backbone is 18:07:43 <|Jeroen|> i think there are quite a lot of backbones ipv6 ready 18:08:13 <|Jeroen|> you can get ipv6 with some isp's 18:08:17 <|Jeroen|> and on most colo's 18:08:26 <Eddi|zuHause> i think they are holding it back to squeeze the most money out of the ipv4 bottleneck 18:08:30 <Bjarni> if the controlling guys for the internet decides to switch to IPv6 say the first of June next year, then they can just say "switch to IPv6 before that or we cut the connection" 18:09:08 <hylje> then we have two internets 18:09:14 <Bjarni> no 18:09:19 <Eddi|zuHause> oh the noes! 18:09:20 <|Jeroen|> well if they give isp's and users like 2 years to update 18:09:27 <Bjarni> IPv6 can tunnel though IPv4 18:09:27 <Eddi|zuHause> the internets split in half! 18:09:41 <Bjarni> to make the transfer to IPv6 easier 18:10:27 <ln-> can they have signals at the tunnel endings? 18:10:36 *** |Bastiaan| [~kvirc@ip87-205-173-82.adsl2.versatel.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:10:38 <Bjarni> I think so 18:10:46 <|Jeroen|> no only roundabouts 18:10:53 <|Jeroen|> signals slow down to mutch 18:11:05 <hylje> the real question is 18:11:06 <Bjarni> you mean they create router loops 18:11:08 <Bjarni> that's not good 18:11:14 <hylje> can one have signals IN the tunnel 18:12:24 <|Jeroen|> that would be nice for openttd 18:12:35 <Sacro> the ipv6 move starts soon 18:12:45 <Sacro> and ipv4 gets cut off in... 2012 i think 18:13:01 <orudge> Everything seems to be happening in 2012 18:13:07 <orudge> it's as if it's all huddled round the Olympics or something 18:13:17 <Sacro> yep 18:13:21 <Sacro> analogue tv switch off 18:13:23 <orudge> well, by everything I mean finishing off switching off the analogue TV signal 18:13:27 <orudge> and, um, some other stuff 18:13:28 <orudge> I think 18:13:33 <Bjarni> seriously, if I had an IPv6 and say hylje had one too and I send something to him, I would send it using v6 to the ISP. The ISP might forward me to an IPv4 gateway so it will be changed into an IPv4 package where the v6 package is the data in the v4 one. The v4 package will then go though to hylje's ISP where the v6 package is restored and send the rest of the way 18:13:34 <|Jeroen|> better get a non it job by 2012 then 18:14:00 <Bjarni> because this is possible, using IPv6 ISPs is possible while the backbone is still v4 18:14:14 <Sacro> ooh 18:14:18 <Sacro> the second transit of venus 18:15:05 <Bjarni> <Sacro> analogue tv switch off <-- we do that in 2009 and Sweden will do it in 2007 (I think) 18:15:26 <Sacro> Bjarni: it differs over here according to area 18:15:29 <Bjarni> I didn't really pay attention to when Sweden will do it as I already switched to digital 18:15:33 <Sacro> some has gone off already 18:15:41 <Sacro> yeah, i only use dvb-t too 18:15:53 <Sacro> # July 27 â Opening ceremony of the 2012 Summer Olympics begins in London at 7:30 pm UTC, or 8:30pm BST.[4] 18:16:00 <Sacro> i really hate people who put "or" in 18:16:09 <Bjarni> I like the ability to watch/record any channel in a multiplex :D 18:16:50 <Bjarni> two good movies at the same time, no problem if they are in the same multiplex, just record both :D 18:17:22 <Eddi|zuHause> i think ASTRA switches off analog in 2009 or so 18:17:22 <Bjarni> so far Denmark managed to put all the digital channels into the same multiplex, so I actually don't have a channel limit 18:17:30 <orudge> well, over here, we have, hmm, 5 or 6 muxes 18:17:38 <Bjarni> I mean I can record from all channels at once if I like 18:17:59 <orudge> naturally 18:18:01 <Eddi|zuHause> <Bjarni> I mean I can record from all channels at once if I like <- i can't, i have like 300 channels FTA 18:18:44 <Bjarni> we have the problem that analogue TV takes up all the room so there is only room for a single digital carrier wave and it's not even a SFN either 18:19:05 <Bjarni> in 2009 when the analogue is turned off, then we will get a whole lot of channels :D 18:19:10 <Eddi|zuHause> but the most common 10 channels divide over 4 transponders, i believe 18:19:40 <Bjarni> basically I have 3 channels :/ 18:20:01 <Bjarni> I never watch the 4th, which is sign language for the news 18:20:38 <Bjarni> then I have 4 Swedish channels and naturally they are on 3 different frequencies (way to go Sweden) 18:20:59 <Eddi|zuHause> i know that luxemburg has already switched off analog 18:21:25 <Wolf01> BigBB, good work with the shores 18:21:25 <ln-> so has finland 18:21:30 <Bjarni> the same goes for the Faeroe Isles 18:21:40 <BigBB> thank you :) 18:22:59 <Wolf01> now we need your patch and the anti saw foundations patch to add to the game a good eyecandy level :) 18:23:32 <Bjarni> I come to think about it, I use multiplexed channels almost every day. You see, I start the tuner on the news on two channels and then I can switch between them and fast forward/rewind just like it was video 18:23:48 *** Greyscale [~greyscale@host86-147-168-200.range86-147.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 18:24:03 * Belugas seconds opinion of Wolf01 regarding BigBB's work 18:24:07 <Bjarni> and when I do that, they end up overlapping, so I just get them both at once 18:24:10 <BigBB> maybe I release it tomorrow. Atm I'm testing... 18:24:22 * Belugas thinks that deepwater may be receiving an helping hand 18:25:02 *** Frostregen_ [~sucks@dslb-084-058-112-155.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 18:25:53 <Wolf01> what the hell, i'm redrawing those stupid road lines for the brickland climate, now seem that they are perfectly aligned 18:28:14 <Sacro> Wolf01: did you try lcad? 18:28:32 <Wolf01> yes 18:29:23 <Belugas> are you happy/sad/perplex/none of the above ? 18:29:45 *** Osai^2 is now known as Osai 18:29:47 <Sacro> perplex? 18:30:29 <Eddi|zuHause> is that even an english word? 18:30:45 <Sacro> yes 18:30:56 <Sacro> "to perplex" 18:30:59 *** Frostregen [SADDAM@dslb-084-058-120-038.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:31:08 <Sacro> but the feeling would be "perplexed" 18:31:13 *** Frostregen_ is now known as Frostregen 18:31:50 *** Brianetta [~brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 18:32:08 <Eddi|zuHause> in german you would say "ich bin perplex"... i have never seen it used as a verb... 18:32:09 * Belugas must take some english classes 18:33:00 <Belugas> in french, yu do not need the "d". So i removed the "e" to make it english and there you go, a wrong word 18:34:06 <Eddi|zuHause> honestly, i'd not really believe Sacro teaching any language... 18:35:00 <Sacro> *I'd 18:35:41 <Eddi|zuHause> see :p 18:36:30 <Eddi|zuHause> anyway, i usually do not capitalise in IRC, except abbreviations or if i really want to emphasise anything 18:36:39 <Eddi|zuHause> something? 18:36:43 <Eddi|zuHause> whateverthing? 18:36:46 <Sacro> Well you should type properley. 18:36:51 *** gynterk [~gynter@84-50-129-63-dsl.rkv.estpak.ee] has joined #openttd 18:36:54 <Sacro> something :) 18:37:04 <Eddi|zuHause> you do not capitalise in spoken language either 18:37:16 <Eddi|zuHause> and i consider chat spoken language 18:37:32 <Eddi|zuHause> and i think i explained that before 18:38:57 <Eddi|zuHause> besides, i do not feel the need to compensate for something by capitalising "i" 18:39:05 <SpComb> not capitalizing your I's is bad grammar, and looks ugly 18:39:40 <Eddi|zuHause> and even besiderer... it goes completely against german capitalisation rules 18:39:47 * SpComb uses a variation of english grammar whereby there's no capital letter at the start of the line, and no period at the end 18:40:23 <Eddi|zuHause> PS: shouldn't it be "properly"? 18:40:39 <SpComb> because you don't really need that on IRC, because each line is its own sentence 18:40:46 <Sacro> err... 18:40:48 <Sacro> noooooo 18:41:27 <Eddi|zuHause> SpComb: that goes along with my rule of "spoken language" 18:41:56 <SpComb> you need the capital letter/period in normal text, because you have more than once sentence together, on IRC each line is it's own sentence. Of course, if there's two sentences in a line, then you have the normal period/capital letter 18:42:02 <Eddi|zuHause> but in reverse of that, i put way too many commas... 18:42:06 <SpComb> and breaking up a sentence over multiple lines is wrong 18:42:30 <Eddi|zuHause> what 18:42:30 <Eddi|zuHause> is 18:42:31 <Eddi|zuHause> wrong 18:42:32 <Eddi|zuHause> with 18:42:33 <Eddi|zuHause> that 18:42:35 <Eddi|zuHause> ? 18:42:57 <SpComb> /kick Eddi|zuHause spam 18:43:27 <Eddi|zuHause> i just wanted to emphasise a point 18:43:28 <SpComb> you have 512 chars to use, no need to use a seperate line for each word with more than one syllable 18:43:43 <Eddi|zuHause> · <- the point 18:43:52 <SpComb> that point isn't very emphasised 18:44:28 <Eddi|zuHause> PS: i did not even use a word with more than one syllable 18:46:20 <SpComb> wasn't specifically about your example 18:47:11 <SpComb> 19:29:53 < gibs> what do you 18:47:11 <SpComb> 19:29:54 < gibs> mean 18:47:11 <SpComb> 19:29:59 < gibs> like 18:47:59 <Eddi|zuHause> that's not exactly a counterexample :p 18:48:02 <Sacro> . 18:48:28 <Wolf01> just one question, i was reading the "problems with ECS on ottd" topic, what about make ottd loading by default the grf on grfid order? if mistaking the order causes glitches and errors why is it allowed? 18:48:32 * Sacro needs to learn how german signalling works 18:48:35 <Eddi|zuHause> Sacro: ·, not . 18:48:51 <Sacro> · 18:49:06 <Wolf01> 18:49:07 <Eddi|zuHause> Sacro: that's quite difficult, there are at least 4 different system in use 18:49:08 <Wolf01> :D 18:49:28 <Sacro> Eddi|zuHause: well this one had 2 green lights 18:49:30 <Sacro> i was confused :( 18:49:33 <Eddi|zuHause> that's just white here... what's it supposed to be? 18:49:36 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@d51A43614.access.telenet.be] has quit [Quit: oO] 18:49:44 <Sacro> Kuju Rail Simulator 18:50:08 <Eddi|zuHause> yeah, you often have two lights at the same time 18:50:11 <SpComb> ··· 18:50:18 <SpComb> there's an emphasised point in there 18:50:22 <Eddi|zuHause> green/green, green/yellow or yellow/yellow 18:50:42 <Eddi|zuHause> SpComb: they look all the same 18:50:48 <SpComb> · 18:50:51 <Eddi|zuHause> and they are made of tickytacky? 18:50:54 <SpComb> then your terminal has bold fonts disabled 18:51:33 <Eddi|zuHause> i do%b have bold and underlined text 18:51:41 <Eddi|zuHause> err... mistyped 18:51:44 <Eddi|zuHause> i do have bold and underlined text 18:51:45 <gynterk> lol 18:51:56 <Sacro> what about green? 18:52:02 <Eddi|zuHause> just the dot looks the same 18:52:09 <gynterk> green works here? 18:52:10 <gynterk> hmm 18:52:26 <Eddi|zuHause> channel disables colours i believe 18:52:39 <gynterk> +c afaik 18:52:41 <gynterk> but not sure 18:53:09 <Eddi|zuHause> [2007-10-11 08:54] *** Kanalmodi: Keine Nachrichten von auÃen, Topic-Schutz, Keine Farben erlaubt 18:57:58 *** Ammller [~ammler@adsl-89-217-45-118.adslplus.ch] has joined #openttd 19:06:25 <Wolf01> see what you did, you pressed the mute key 19:07:00 <Eddi|zuHause> in IRC, that is called "Moderated" 19:07:57 <Eddi|zuHause> like this: [Di Sep 25 2007] [05:05:41] Modus Kanalmodi: Geheim, Privat, Moderiert, Topic-Schutz, Keine Nachrichten von auÃen, BeschrÀnkt auf 772 Benutzer 19:08:29 *** Nitehawk [~nitehawk@c-98-200-106-108.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:09:24 *** mikegrb [~michael@mail.thegrebs.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:11:02 <Wolf01> i feel cold :( 19:14:54 *** Amixosx [~AmiXoamip@cm-84.208.143.45.chello.no] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:15:22 <Mek> hmm... is it possible to build pre-signals without a keyboard? 19:15:34 <Wolf01> no 19:16:06 <Mek> bah... some more hacking needed than :) (I'm playing ottd on my neo/openmoko phone, which unfortunately only has a stylus as input device) 19:16:10 <Wolf01> uhm... yes, you need autohotkey, so you can bind the ctrl key to the middle mouse button 19:16:43 *** Amixosx [~AmiXoamip@cm-84.208.143.45.chello.no] has joined #openttd 19:16:53 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-89-217-45-118.adslplus.ch] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:16:55 <Mek> uhm.. only a styles, so also no middle or even right mouse button :) 19:17:29 <Wolf01> so i did to change the special powers on sacred, like when you change the weapon in a fps 19:17:54 <Mek> I guess I'll add a small window with a ctrl-button or something like that :) 19:18:28 <Wolf01> can't you raise the softkeyboard? 19:19:02 *** SmatZ [~smatz@a40-prg1-5-107.static.adsl.vol.cz] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:19:06 <Mek> yeah.. that could work, but is quite annoying as it takes way too much screen-space 19:19:31 <Wolf01> i think that is the simplest way 19:21:50 <BigBB> Mek, integrate the signal-gui patch... 19:23:02 <glx> Mek: it doesn't have some buttons? 19:23:30 <Wolf01> glx, also i have a lot of buttons, but only 2 customisable :( 19:23:51 <Mek> the phone only has a power/sleep button and a go-to-menu button... 19:24:24 <glx> too bad 19:25:35 <SpComb> iPhone OpenTTD! 19:26:06 <Prof_Frink> Mek: Get something like xmonobut for middle/right click 19:26:12 <Rubidium> can't you make it so that when you call the phone CTRL is "pressed"? 19:26:23 <Mek> lol 19:26:57 <SpComb> does it have an orientation sensor? 19:26:58 <Rubidium> maybe even make it configurable depending on the calling number 19:27:19 <SpComb> "turn your phone upside-down to build presignals" 19:27:24 *** Amixosx [~AmiXoamip@cm-84.208.143.45.chello.no] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:27:52 <Wolf01> rotate it to make things transparent 19:28:16 <Prof_Frink> Does it have an accelerometer, or was I hallucinating? 19:28:33 <Prof_Frink> "move phone towards or away from face to zoom in or out" 19:28:35 <SpComb> drop it on the floor to stop playing OpenTTD 19:28:37 <Mek> it will have two accelerometers in the next revision of the hardware... 19:28:44 <Wolf01> shake it to purchase multiple train cars 19:28:47 <Wolf01> at once 19:28:51 *** Amixosx [~AmiXoamip@cm-84.208.143.45.chello.no] has joined #openttd 19:28:56 *** Deathmaker [~Miranda@dslb-082-083-226-068.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:29:42 <LeviathNL> is there a general rule of thumb to load grf's in a order which has the lowest chance of causing conflicts? 19:30:05 <Wolf01> by grfid 19:30:37 <Rubidium> Wolf01: really? maybe from the same author and even then it doesn't hold 19:31:09 <Wolf01> i loaded all by grfid... author or not 19:31:31 <LeviathNL> any theory behind it? 19:31:32 <Rubidium> that's a lucky shot 19:31:52 <Rubidium> the theory is that there is not theory 19:35:13 <Eddi|zuHause> and the second theory is that there is no theory 19:35:24 <Eddi|zuHause> err wait... wrong movie :p 19:35:50 <Wolf01> that grf loading system is ruled by the theory of chaos 19:36:46 <Eddi|zuHause> chaos has more theory than grf loading 19:37:09 <Belugas> bad tongues... 19:38:42 <Wolf01> some hints on where to place a grf are apreciated ;) 19:38:54 <Belugas> each author has his own strategy, that's all 19:40:48 <Prof_Frink> LeviathNL: There's a very simple way to avoid GRF conflicts 19:41:12 <LeviathNL> using none? 19:41:20 <Prof_Frink> :) 19:43:01 *** mikegrb [~michael@mail.thegrebs.com] has joined #openttd 19:50:50 *** Greyscale [~greyscale@host86-147-168-200.range86-147.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:52:18 <Eddi|zuHause> that's like avoiding plane crashes by staying in the kitchen... 19:52:22 *** Greyscale [~Greyscale@host86-147-168-200.range86-147.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 19:52:58 <Bjarni> that's my strategy 19:53:17 <Greyscale> Shit! I missed the strategy! 19:53:27 <Sacro> Eddi|zuHause: i like that theory 19:53:37 <Sacro> though i'd personally go to the bomb shelter 19:53:59 <Bjarni> that might be overdoing it 19:54:07 <Bjarni> your bed will do 19:54:09 <Bjarni> hmm 19:54:21 <Bjarni> move your bed to the bomb shelter, just in case 19:54:45 <Sacro> ooh i could 19:54:54 <Sacro> its an authentic ww2 air raid shelter 19:55:15 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77CD9.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 19:55:25 <Bjarni> don't mention the war 19:55:32 <Bjarni> now we lost Eddi|zuHause 19:56:07 <Sacro> he started it 19:56:36 <Bjarni> no, you did 19:56:42 <Greyscale> Who'da thunk the germans would be up for Round 2. 19:56:50 <Sacro> Bjarni: no they did 19:56:53 <Sacro> they invaded Poland 19:56:58 <Bjarni> so? 19:57:00 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77CD9.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 19:57:09 <Bjarni> in case you aren't aware of it, Poland isn't UK 19:57:12 <Greyscale> And still BMW satnav only finds its way to warsaw. 19:57:17 <Bjarni> you could have cared less 19:57:35 <Greyscale> The germans need a budget brand 19:57:44 <Greyscale> like, VW, but cheaper 19:57:58 <Greyscale> They *did* buy rover at one point 19:58:01 * Prof_Frink slaps Bjarni around a bit with Fawlty Towers 19:58:01 <Bjarni> VW is meant to be cheap... at first at least 19:58:27 <Greyscale> HAHA. Phaeton. 19:58:45 <Greyscale> £60000 peoples car 19:58:46 <Bjarni> Prof_Frink: like I watch Fowly Owners 19:58:50 <Eddi|zuHause> that was before WWII 19:59:15 <Greyscale> yeah, VW have been sticking us with prices since :P 19:59:43 <Sacro> mmm 19:59:51 * Sacro wants a british car :( 20:00:08 <Greyscale> Buy a taxi 20:00:23 <Greyscale> They're still built here 20:00:26 <Greyscale> by LTI 20:00:29 <Greyscale> or a vauxhall 20:00:34 <Greyscale> which are nailed together in luton 20:00:45 <Bjarni> Luton.... 20:00:59 <Bjarni> you mean that should be better than Asian cars? 20:01:09 <Greyscale> Where did I say that? 20:01:21 <Sacro> Vauxhall aint british 20:01:23 <Bjarni> good point... nowhere ;) 20:01:58 <Eddi|zuHause> get a VW New Beetle, at least they are manufactured in good old... mexico 20:01:59 <Greyscale> Sacro, they are sortof. 20:02:02 * Prof_Frink wants a DB9 20:02:19 <Greyscale> They're the Blittish arm of GM 20:02:32 <hylje> blittish 20:02:38 <Greyscale> Mostly assembled in this country in a shed in luton between 3 hour teabreaks 20:02:40 * hylje blits 20:02:41 <Bjarni> I like how some US ministry worked out a list of environmental good cars for their employes to buy and they were forced to recall it because none of the 10 cars were American 20:02:53 <Bjarni> profit before environment 20:03:05 <Bjarni> they were all Japanese or Korean 20:03:23 <Greyscale> Rice is cheaper than petrol I hear. 20:03:29 <Greyscale> :P 20:03:32 <Bjarni> :) 20:03:38 <Bjarni> I like the new Nissan 20:03:40 <Prof_Frink> "Here's a list of environmentally friendly cars" "Oh, you can't post that, it doesn't have a Hummer on it" 20:03:43 <Greyscale> which one? 20:03:49 <Greyscale> Frankly, they're all fugly. 20:03:52 <hylje> contary to popular belief even asian automobiles run on conventional means 20:04:02 <Greyscale> hylje, I am aware. 20:04:12 <Greyscale> Its not like the flintstones car anyway 20:04:23 <Prof_Frink> hylje: Luke's car runs on unconventional means 20:04:28 <Greyscale> it'd ATLEAST have satnav to help you find a bronto burger. 20:04:41 <Eddi|zuHause> you mean "conventional" as in "feet stick out to the ground and then you run"? 20:04:54 <Greyscale> why don't they just walk? 20:04:56 <Bjarni> http://youtube.com/watch?v=MxP-eDN_zns <-- this one 20:04:58 <Prof_Frink> And makes people hungry as he drives past 20:05:03 <Greyscale> and how does that shit turn? 20:05:08 <Greyscale> it'd be an american car if it were 20:05:19 <Greyscale> OH CRAP CORNER D: 20:05:19 <Bjarni> I'm not sure that I would buy it, but I like the idea and it's nice for city traffic 20:05:34 <Bjarni> but they do have to fix mirrors and stuff 20:06:33 <Eddi|zuHause> Bjarni: err, what? 20:06:48 <Prof_Frink> Bjarni: That's... 20:06:58 <Eddi|zuHause> it's like a wheel on wheels... 20:07:03 <Bjarni> it's an interesting concept 20:07:07 <dihedral> gnight 20:07:17 <Bjarni> and it will be interesting to see what it turns out to be 20:07:25 *** dihedral [~dihedral@dslb-084-057-226-046.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.78.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.7/2007091417]] 20:07:53 <Eddi|zuHause> hopefully we won't be getting to see THAT in heroes :p 20:07:56 <Amixosx> Bjarni: nice 20:08:09 <Bjarni> in heroes? 20:08:21 <Prof_Frink> Bjarni: What it will turn out to be is a perpetual concept car 20:08:38 <Eddi|zuHause> Heroes == the best TV series out there 20:08:46 <Bjarni> I specially like the ability to drive sideways so it's easy to parallel park and parallel parked cars can be parked closer 20:08:52 <Eddi|zuHause> they have a contract with Nissan for "product placement" 20:09:05 <Bjarni> hehe 20:09:22 *** BigBB [~BigBB@p5B0405FA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: BigBB] 20:09:22 <Greyscale> Why is there a megaman head in the pivo2 dash? 20:09:31 <Bjarni> it's a talking robot 20:09:39 <Prof_Frink> Greyscale: It's a japanese car 20:09:49 <Bjarni> watching the driver to check for sleepiness and stuff 20:09:53 <Bjarni> and you can talk to it 20:10:00 <Bjarni> ask for directions and stuff 20:10:01 <Prof_Frink> Like I said 20:10:21 <Bjarni> yeah, we kind of said the same thing 20:11:05 <Eddi|zuHause> the keys are like next to each other 20:11:12 <Bjarni> it should be able to talk to the driver if the driver shows signs of falling asleep 20:12:10 <Bjarni> kind of like a dead mans pedal in trains, only not so aggressive 20:14:09 <Prof_Frink> Bjarni: It probably has some flashing lights to a) wake the driver up and b) give him an epileptic fit 20:15:47 <Greyscale> Bjarni, it should fucking drive 20:16:00 <Greyscale> If I'm having megaman talking to me in my car, he may as well drive 20:16:14 <Greyscale> nick the radar speed sensor kit from a Mercedes. 20:16:17 <LeviathNL> wtf newshipsw.grf in combination with some other grf is crapping my sound up :/ 20:16:38 <Belugas> poor sound :( 20:16:52 <LeviathNL> anyone familiar with it? 20:17:06 <Belugas> not me, sorry 20:17:19 <Belugas> but you should define "some other grf" 20:17:28 <LeviathNL> I'm trying to find out now 20:17:32 <LeviathNL> which one 20:19:54 <Prof_Frink> Greyscale: And stick some lane drift sensors on too 20:19:56 <LeviathNL> hmm, it does not matter what grf I delete, the problem is gone. 20:20:38 <Greyscale> Prof_Frink, yeah 20:21:26 <LeviathNL> Is there some limitation I could have reached? 20:21:57 <Belugas> hardly 20:22:20 <Belugas> maybe the problem is not grf nor ottd related 20:22:49 <LeviathNL> I'll try it on my laptop 20:26:29 <LeviathNL> same problem 20:27:18 *** Hendikins is now known as Hendikins|Work 20:27:32 <Belugas> grfs involved? what order? OS? OTTD Version? 20:27:48 <Eddi|zuHause> so if the problem disappears if you remove ANY grf, why do you think it's related to newships? 20:28:20 <LeviathNL> I said that before finding out deleting any of the grf's works 20:29:19 <LeviathNL> r11246 (today's nightly) XP, http://paste.openttd.org/245 20:29:28 <Phazorx> can any true type font be used in small_font/medium_font ? 20:30:08 <LeviathNL> it is the standard (openttd first run generated) openttd.cfg only added the grf's 20:31:50 <Bjarni> Phazorx: go ahead and try them. I think it should work with whatever freetype works with 20:32:04 <Phazorx> Bjarni: i dont se erthe effect anymore 20:32:12 <Phazorx> i recall seeing it before 20:32:15 <Bjarni> hmm 20:32:18 <Phazorx> do i need 32vpp and aliasing for that ? 20:32:24 <Bjarni> then you did it wrong :P 20:32:44 <Phazorx> Bjarni: i dont see an error either 20:33:02 <Phazorx> even if i put incorrect font there 20:33:14 <Bjarni> close OpenTTD, edit openttd.cfg where you set the fonts to use, save and open OpenTTD 20:33:23 <Phazorx> and if i do "-s null" game CTDes even 20:33:28 <Phazorx> Bjarni: that's close to what i am doing 20:33:36 <Phazorx> and fonts are staying in the cfg 20:33:43 <Bjarni> hmm 20:34:04 <Bjarni> I have a fontconfig issue so I have to provide absolute paths to the fonts 20:34:07 <Phazorx> and -s null only CTDes with 8bpp--optimized 20:34:23 <Phazorx> Bjarni: you on linux right? 20:34:28 <Bjarni> ... 20:34:39 * Bjarni slaps Phazorx 20:34:41 <Bjarni> try again 20:34:55 <Bjarni> but at least you didn't say Windows :) 20:34:59 <Phazorx> SCO BSD? :) 20:35:06 <Prof_Frink> Anger like that would suggest a BSD 20:35:17 <Bjarni> you are getting closer, but not close enough 20:35:17 * Bjarni slaps Phazorx 20:35:18 <toresbe> Or even an amiga user 20:35:25 <LeviathNL> if someone is interested i can upload my whole openttd directory 20:35:30 <Bjarni> I think you talk garbage because you enjoy pain :P 20:35:43 <toresbe> oh 20:35:48 <Phazorx> Bjarni: unlikely it matetrs anyway 20:35:55 <toresbe> it's that glossy heap of transparency that thinks it's an operating system 20:35:59 <Bjarni> it's in the wiki 20:35:59 <Phazorx> i use windows and self compiled binary 20:36:04 <Phazorx> goona try official now 20:36:11 <Prof_Frink> X-Chat Aqua 0.16.0 (xchat 2.6.1) Darwin 8.10.1 [i386/2.00GHz/SMP] 20:36:23 <Prof_Frink> Hmm, what could that *possibly* be? :p 20:36:24 <Bjarni> http://wiki.openttd.org/index.php/Bjarni 20:36:36 <Phazorx> darwin eh 20:36:43 <Prof_Frink> Bjarni: it's a wiki 20:36:50 <Prof_Frink> It's full of lies 20:37:00 <Bjarni> survival of the fittest 20:37:02 *** elmex [~elmex@e180067116.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:37:07 <Phazorx> Bjarni: so you are the reason for "rightclick_emulate" option in the cfg? 20:37:12 <Bjarni> well, there is one incorrect info on that page 20:37:17 <Bjarni> try to find it 20:37:32 <Phazorx> and this is the person who says i like pain... 20:37:36 <Belugas> he's not active anymore ;) 20:37:52 <Bjarni> err 20:38:03 <Bjarni> actually I was talking about the year of birth 20:38:19 <Phazorx> and btw, darwin is linux :) 20:38:19 <Bjarni> for the record: I have a multibutton mouse 20:38:19 *** Zavior [~zavior@d195-237-7-209.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:38:23 <Bjarni> in fact I have more than one 20:38:32 <Phazorx> even if apple prefers to call it macos 20:39:22 <Bjarni> I added the right click emulation because other people requested it 20:39:27 <Bjarni> I don't need it 20:40:06 <Phazorx> hm... in cfg do i need to supply full path and file or registered font name actualy? 20:40:21 <Phazorx> and where did errors about fonts go... i used to be getting them 20:40:57 <Bjarni> Phazorx: you are only allowed to ask questions that we can answer. Now you make the illusion that we don't know our own game :P 20:41:44 <Phazorx> so the erros do appear and my mind blocks them somerwhow so i dont see them? 20:42:02 <Bjarni> yeah, that sounds better 20:42:03 <Bjarni> but 20:42:12 <Bjarni> in fact you do get the font you select 20:42:28 <Phazorx> Bjarni: i put fint blah blah blah there 20:42:29 <Bjarni> but you only select fonts that looks like the ingame spritebased font 20:42:31 <Phazorx> i'm sure i dont have it 20:42:52 *** dihedral|away is now known as dihedral 20:42:57 <dihedral> http://www.break.com/pictures/bonds-dog380319.html 20:43:04 <Phazorx> Bjarni: newspaper, station names and cargo abbriviation in station list' 20:43:13 <Phazorx> are usual ways for me to check correct fonts 20:43:26 <Phazorx> at the moment they look exactly same as usual 20:44:36 <Phazorx> aha... oficial night does give me erro but compiled does not 20:45:11 <Rubidium> with debugging vs without debugging 20:46:05 <LeviathNL> if someone is interested rar of openttd-directory which gives distorted sound(win32) 20:46:07 <Phazorx> Rubidium: as in --enable debug ? 20:46:08 *** RamboRonny [magic.powe@90-230-201-111-no37.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #openttd 20:46:33 <Bjarni> http://www.break.com/pictures/double-seat-bike380307.html <-- hahaha. Imagine getting a ride with a fat person 20:46:37 <LeviathNL> distortedhttp://rapidshare.com/files/61890604/Openttd.rar.html 20:46:48 <Phazorx> CXXFLAGS="-pipe -O2 -march=athlon-xp -ffast-math -fomit-frame-pointer -msse -mmmx -m3dnow -falign-functions=64" 20:46:51 <LeviathNL> whoops 20:46:54 <Phazorx> gcc.exe (GCC) 3.4.2 (mingw-special) 20:47:08 <Phazorx> could any of these 2 be the reason? 20:50:05 <Phazorx> just in case doing a fresh co 20:50:08 <Phazorx> and recompile 20:55:45 <huma> http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/9347/flugr3.jpg 20:57:58 <Phazorx> still no go on selfcompiled, crashes with -s, and ignores font option 20:58:01 <Phazorx> what did i do wrong? 20:58:39 <Rubidium> you didn't install libfreetype-dev and libfontconfig-dev (or whatever they're called)? 20:59:58 *** Wezz6400 [~Wezz6400@145-118-111-234.fttx.bbned.nl] has quit [Quit: reboot] 21:01:04 <Phazorx> Rubidium: win32 21:01:13 <Phazorx> and it used to work ebfore 21:01:58 <Rubidium> I'm only guess as I don't have Windows installed on any of my computers 21:02:30 <Phazorx> Rubidium: i doubt ftype libs are neede in case of mingw... but i could be wrong 21:03:35 <Rubidium> maybe it isn't needed on mingw, though I think it is *highly* unlikely as it is needed when you want to have fonts with a MSVC binary. 21:05:42 *** Wezz6400 [~Wezz6400@145-118-111-234.fttx.bbned.nl] has joined #openttd 21:08:14 <glx> freetype is needed 21:08:19 <glx> fontconfig isn't 21:09:35 <Phazorx> glx: wehre do i get it 21:09:42 <Phazorx> or do i need to compile it? 21:09:52 <glx> I compiled it 21:10:04 <glx> but I think there is a mingw-port for it 21:11:45 <Phazorx> any pointers on either? 21:12:24 *** AntB [~AntB-UK@81.140.83.104] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:13:00 <glx> http://freetype.org/ <-- get the source and compile it 21:19:30 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@snat1.spoje.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:22:51 <Wolf01> 'night 21:22:54 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host240-239-dynamic.15-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 21:26:00 <dihedral> http://www.break.com/index/song-for-the-perfect-girlfriend.html 21:29:26 *** Purno [~Purno@5357D37C.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:30:32 *** TinoM [~Tino@i5387D183.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 21:31:57 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@snat1.spoje.net] has joined #openttd 21:32:12 <Phazorx> . 21:36:18 *** dihedral is now known as dihedral|away 21:48:00 <Bjarni> http://my.break.com/content/view.aspx?ContentID=160129 <-- I thought I had seen most stuff when it comes to pool, but.... 21:48:02 <Bjarni> wow 22:05:09 *** BigBB [~BigBB@p5B04347F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 22:05:40 <Mek> yay, my ctrl-button works, finally I can build pre-signals on my phone :) http://scap.linuxtogo.org/files/79bc0dce02527a77d0cf2cc94266e69c.png 22:05:55 <valhallasw> neat :) 22:07:22 *** KouDy [user@85.207.64.178] has quit [Quit: Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com] 22:11:08 *** svippery [~svip@cpe.atm2-0-78233.0x535a2072.boanxx18.customer.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 22:11:08 *** svippy [~svip@cpe.atm2-0-78233.0x535a2072.boanxx18.customer.tele.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:15:02 <Sacro> windows mobile? 22:15:48 <Mek> nah, openmoko (linux) 22:21:14 <Phazorx> heh linux on phones... removing last bits of differences between phones and computers 22:22:32 <Sionide> Mek, OMG:D 22:22:35 <Sionide> i want one of them 22:23:07 <Mek> they can't really reliable make phone-calls yet, but for openttd playing it is just fine :) 22:23:17 <Phazorx> lolz 22:23:26 <Phazorx> a phone that runs games but cant call? 22:23:34 <Sacro> ooh 22:23:38 <Sacro> i want an openmoko phone 22:24:21 <Sionide> Phazorx, i've got a mobile for that.. 22:24:30 <Sionide> more of a PDA the openmoko i'd say 22:24:41 <Sionide> besides, the iPhone can't send MMS 22:30:33 <Phazorx> what's the res on that thing? 22:30:45 <Phazorx> if it betas psp - definately sometihng worthy then 22:30:54 <Mek> 640x480 (with someting like 280dpi...) 22:31:04 *** LeviathNL [LeviathNL@z037133.its-s.tudelft.nl] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:33:19 *** gfldex [~dex@dslb-084-058-087-045.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:36:21 *** gfldex [~dex@dslb-084-058-008-247.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 22:40:32 <Phazorx> one needs a zoom to use it? 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