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00:00:43 <supermop> i crashed one of your trains 00:00:52 <Lejving> oh noes =/ 00:01:59 <ST2> by default you need 2 trains to make a crash so, supermop, tell him that you crashed 2 ^^ 00:04:10 <Lejving> man buses are imba for town growth and local authority likeness 00:39:12 *** Snail has joined #openttd 00:58:15 *** JezK_ has joined #openttd 01:13:12 *** Eddi|zuHause has joined #openttd 01:28:38 <Lejving> is it possible to migrate electric to monorail trains? I just care about the orders 01:38:15 *** JezK_ has quit IRC 01:38:19 <Lejving> looks like a big job, I'll wait until maglev... 01:47:38 *** JezK_ has joined #openttd 02:06:37 *** sim-al2 is now known as Guest134 02:06:38 *** sim-al2 has joined #openttd 02:11:08 *** Guest134 has quit IRC 02:37:41 *** Clockworker_ is now known as Clockworker 02:40:07 *** JezK_ has quit IRC 02:48:10 *** JezK_ has joined #openttd 03:47:55 *** glx has quit IRC 03:49:44 *** Snail has quit IRC 03:56:02 *** Snail has joined #openttd 04:06:50 *** Snail has quit IRC 04:14:43 *** Hiddenfunstuff has joined #openttd 04:42:07 *** nilez has quit IRC 04:42:14 *** nilez has joined #openttd 05:57:38 *** JezK_ has quit IRC 06:05:35 *** JezK_ has joined #openttd 06:30:27 *** tycoondemon has quit IRC 06:38:14 *** tycoondemon has joined #openttd 07:17:00 <V453000> Lejving: add a universal rail newgrf, there are a few of them 07:17:08 <V453000> it will let you autoreplace between any track types 07:17:17 <V453000> also, the tunnels look like a zbase glitch for railtype tunnels to me 07:19:20 *** Sova has joined #openttd 07:49:52 *** davidstrauss has quit IRC 07:56:18 *** JezK_ has quit IRC 08:01:43 *** davidstrauss has joined #openttd 08:05:52 *** supermop_ has joined #openttd 08:11:48 *** supermop has quit IRC 08:44:19 *** supermop has joined #openttd 08:50:23 *** supermop_ has quit IRC 09:02:28 *** JacobD88 has joined #openttd 09:14:28 *** Wolf01 has joined #openttd 09:15:07 <Wolf01> o/ 09:29:28 <Wolf01> http://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/arNZ5WB_460s.jpg ? 09:33:07 <Sova> I'm guessing that the welcome server is not password protected? Also, are there multiple companies there or is it all just one single cooperative? 09:49:13 *** supermop_ has joined #openttd 09:55:23 *** supermop has quit IRC 10:06:29 *** nilez has quit IRC 10:06:57 *** nilez has joined #openttd 10:07:29 *** smoke_fumus has joined #openttd 10:14:52 <argoneus> good morning train friends 10:15:00 *** nilez has quit IRC 10:15:07 *** nilez has joined #openttd 10:15:08 <Flygon_> Noot noot 10:15:10 *** Flygon_ is now known as Flygon 10:18:27 *** Sova has quit IRC 10:19:15 *** Sova has joined #openttd 10:55:42 *** TheMask96 has quit IRC 11:00:56 *** TheMask96 has joined #openttd 11:42:34 *** Sova has quit IRC 11:43:30 *** Sova has joined #openttd 11:45:04 *** looptrooper has joined #openttd 11:47:57 <_dp_> hi! are there anywhere engine specs in some digestible format like json? 11:51:36 <planetmaker> I guess not. The default ones are somewhere in the wiki(s), but for NewGRFs you'll have to shop around and likely won't find them anywhere, except if you happen to know the place of the repo (if any) 11:52:14 <V453000> hello :) 11:56:12 <_dp_> ok, so I guess dumping them directly from game is still the best way 11:58:43 *** looptrooper has quit IRC 12:05:12 *** Sova has quit IRC 12:05:41 *** Sova has joined #openttd 12:17:23 *** supermop has joined #openttd 12:23:53 *** supermop_ has quit IRC 12:24:44 *** Alberth has joined #openttd 12:24:44 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Alberth 12:24:53 <Alberth> o/ 12:24:58 <Wolf01> o/ 12:25:22 <goodger> \o 12:25:40 *** Snail has joined #openttd 12:25:49 <Eddi|zuHause> _dp_: a game script could dump them as json through the admin port 12:26:06 *** keoz has joined #openttd 12:26:07 <Wolf01> I think I'll need to move from home, no jobs here and the nearest is at 50km not easy to get to with public transport 12:34:12 <Sova> That sucks man. I'm guessing you don't have a car? 12:34:45 <Wolf01> I do, but I'm not putting a third of the wage on fuel 12:35:23 <Wolf01> Also I'm not able to live on my own 12:35:33 <Wolf01> (I'll die in front of the pc) 12:36:38 <Alberth> why do people believe it rains in OpenTTD? 12:37:01 <Sova> a third?? 12:37:02 <Sova> holy shit man 12:37:09 <Sova> how much is gas there? :) 12:37:21 <Wolf01> Doesn't it? I always thought it rained sometimes 12:37:32 <Wolf01> 1.4€/L 12:37:47 <Alberth> in RCT it does, but not in OpenTTD :) 12:38:01 <Wolf01> ;) 12:38:50 <Wolf01> Maybe people get confused when snow line changes on winter and imagine it is raining/snowing 12:39:32 <Alberth> hmm, good point, but perhaps Yetis do that :) 12:41:20 <Wolf01> So, I found this new job for a C developer for logic boards of electric gates... I know about nothing of low level C, I bet it involves a lot of math and I suck on math... 12:44:21 <Sova> C is really unforigiving as far as I remember 12:44:25 <Wolf01> If they call me (I sent them a CV) I think I'll just give it a look and leave, I'm good in R&D (where R > D) and brainstorming... 12:44:47 <Sova> used it a couple of times in college 12:44:55 <Sova> then went to C# 12:45:01 <Sova> which is muuuuch better 12:45:23 <Sova> and then went to web development and never looked back 12:45:35 <Wolf01> Yeah, C is too much low level, also I like more high level languages 12:46:20 <Wolf01> I "just" finished my web development job, and I really liked it 12:46:59 <Sova> awesome! What did you create? 12:47:13 <Wolf01> Mainly a closed source CMS 12:47:29 <Wolf01> I was planning a CRM too 12:47:38 <Sova> cool beans 12:47:44 <Sova> what tech? 12:47:55 <Sova> something like Zen or Cake ? 12:48:00 <Sova> Angular? 12:48:23 <Wolf01> Started with PHP and went full ajax with Symfony2, Angular and others 12:48:59 <Wolf01> Also I set up the installer system and the CVS for the company 12:49:12 <Wolf01> Which now it seem to be unused 12:49:24 <Wolf01> Too much work for them 12:49:34 <Sova> CVS is something like SVN ? 12:49:37 <Sova> or Git? 12:49:56 <Wolf01> Mainly SVN, but we had also a Composer mirror 12:50:00 <Sova> mhm 12:50:08 <Wolf01> For the CMS plugins 12:51:02 <_dp_> Eddi|zuHause, is there ready-made script that does it? 12:51:17 <Eddi|zuHause> no clue 12:51:24 <Eddi|zuHause> check the forum? 12:51:42 <_dp_> if not, I don't see any reason bothering with gs when I can do it in c 12:52:24 <Wolf01> Got to go now 12:52:34 <Sova> bb 12:56:07 *** Snail has quit IRC 13:31:53 *** supermop_ has joined #openttd 13:36:50 *** Lejving has quit IRC 13:37:43 *** supermop has quit IRC 13:38:34 *** Lejving has joined #openttd 13:46:20 *** qwebirc5296 has joined #openttd 13:49:35 *** Gja has joined #openttd 13:56:42 *** supermop has joined #openttd 14:02:39 *** supermop_ has quit IRC 14:16:35 *** sim-al2 has quit IRC 14:21:20 *** roidal has joined #openttd 14:24:10 *** Sova has quit IRC 14:24:56 *** Sova has joined #openttd 14:30:08 *** JacobD88 has quit IRC 14:33:12 *** Guest92 is now known as FR^2 14:40:42 *** Sova has quit IRC 14:41:08 *** Sova has joined #openttd 14:47:15 *** Lejving has quit IRC 14:49:10 *** Lejving has joined #openttd 14:59:27 *** Sova has quit IRC 15:21:08 <supermop> who can i troll about disputed territories today 15:27:14 <Alberth> you can troll about rain 15:32:26 *** tokai|noir has joined #openttd 15:32:26 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v tokai|noir 15:41:41 *** Webster has joined #openttd 15:41:52 *** Gja has quit IRC 15:42:42 *** tokai|noir has quit IRC 15:42:47 *** Wolf01 has quit IRC 15:46:12 *** Gja has joined #openttd 15:46:12 *** Mek has joined #openttd 15:46:12 *** Geth has joined #openttd 15:46:12 *** Wolf01 has joined #openttd 15:46:12 *** SpComb has joined #openttd 15:46:12 *** roidal has joined #openttd 15:46:12 *** TrueBrain has joined #openttd 15:46:12 *** keoz has joined #openttd 15:46:12 *** Alberth has joined #openttd 15:46:12 *** TheMask96 has joined #openttd 15:46:12 *** juzza1 has joined #openttd 15:46:12 *** Jaenster has joined #openttd 15:46:12 *** reticulum.oftc.net sets mode: +o Alberth 15:46:23 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Alberth 15:46:31 *** tokai has joined #openttd 15:46:31 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v tokai 15:47:29 *** supermop_ has joined #openttd 15:52:48 *** supermop has quit IRC 15:58:29 *** Cybertinus has joined #openttd 15:58:29 *** rah has joined #openttd 15:58:29 *** Mavy has joined #openttd 15:58:29 *** debdog has joined #openttd 16:17:10 *** HerzogDeXtEr has joined #openttd 16:37:05 *** Clockworker_ has joined #openttd 16:44:34 *** Clockworker has quit IRC 17:28:24 *** Progman has joined #openttd 17:36:03 *** glx has joined #openttd 17:36:03 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v glx 17:41:21 *** roidal has quit IRC 17:59:25 *** frosch123 has joined #openttd 18:00:56 <frosch123> is oftc alive again? 18:01:55 *** kais58 has quit IRC 18:05:40 <Wolf01> quak 18:06:07 <frosch123> hoi 18:10:36 *** Webster` has joined #openttd 18:11:16 *** Webster has quit IRC 18:11:16 *** Eddi|zuHause has quit IRC 18:11:16 *** Eddi|zuHause has joined #openttd 18:14:29 *** debdog has quit IRC 18:14:29 *** Mavy has quit IRC 18:14:29 *** Cybertinus has quit IRC 18:14:29 *** rah has quit IRC 18:16:02 *** glx has quit IRC 18:20:44 *** ElleKitty has joined #openttd 18:22:36 *** alask0ud has joined #openttd 18:33:11 *** glx_ has joined #openttd 18:33:11 *** Cybertinus has joined #openttd 18:33:11 *** rah has joined #openttd 18:33:11 *** Mavy has joined #openttd 18:33:11 *** debdog has joined #openttd 18:33:27 *** glx_ is now known as glx 18:33:44 *** Clockworker_ is now known as Clockworker 18:36:13 *** gelignite has joined #openttd 18:51:40 <Wolf01> http://opengameart.org/content/isometric-buildings-1 nice 18:56:34 <Wolf01> Sunday I saw this: http://www.katousa.com/images/unitrack/40-800.jpg 18:57:16 *** Webster has joined #openttd 19:00:15 *** gnu_jj has quit IRC 19:05:54 *** TrueBrain has quit IRC 19:09:14 *** Gja has quit IRC 19:09:14 *** HerzogDeXtEr has quit IRC 19:09:14 *** Wolf01 has quit IRC 19:09:14 *** Eddi|zuHause3 has joined #openttd 19:09:14 *** ElleKitty has quit IRC 19:10:49 *** tycoondemon2 has joined #openttd 19:10:49 *** Wolf01 has joined #openttd 19:10:49 *** Eddi|zuHause has quit IRC 19:10:49 *** frosch123 has quit IRC 19:10:49 *** Progman has quit IRC 19:10:49 *** tycoondemon has quit IRC 19:10:49 *** SpBot has quit IRC 19:10:49 *** ToBeFree has quit IRC 19:10:49 *** gelignite has quit IRC 19:10:49 *** debdog has quit IRC 19:10:49 *** Mavy has quit IRC 19:10:49 *** Cybertinus has quit IRC 19:10:49 *** rah has quit IRC 19:10:49 *** glx has quit IRC 19:10:49 *** ToBeFree has joined #openttd 19:10:49 <Wolf01> Dafuq 19:10:49 *** TheMask96- has joined #openttd 19:10:49 *** TrueBrain_ has joined #openttd 19:11:09 *** Mek has quit IRC 19:11:09 *** TheMask96 has quit IRC 19:11:09 *** Mek has joined #openttd 19:12:12 *** Progman has joined #openttd 19:12:17 *** SpBot has joined #openttd 19:13:37 *** TrueBrain_ is now known as TrueBrain 19:14:56 *** keoz has quit IRC 19:15:47 *** HerzogDeXtEr has joined #openttd 19:16:27 *** TrueBrain has quit IRC 19:17:48 *** TrueBrain has joined #openttd 19:18:16 *** gelignite has joined #openttd 19:19:10 *** Alberth has left #openttd 19:22:20 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 19:26:44 *** glx has joined #openttd 19:26:44 *** Cybertinus has joined #openttd 19:26:44 *** rah has joined #openttd 19:26:44 *** Mavy has joined #openttd 19:26:44 *** debdog has joined #openttd 19:26:52 <andythenorth> o/ 19:26:55 <andythenorth> proper connection :P 19:26:56 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v glx 19:27:05 <Wolf01> o/ 19:27:34 *** Compu has quit IRC 19:27:36 <Wolf01> Your connection work, but OFTC explodes 6 times at day 19:29:34 <andythenorth> I wondered 19:29:43 <andythenorth> sometimes it seemed oftc was down 19:32:54 *** Compu has joined #openttd 19:44:18 *** supermop_ has quit IRC 19:51:06 *** aard has joined #openttd 19:52:21 <Wolf01> So, I should get back to work on NRT, but today I'm so blue I look like a smurf 19:56:54 <andythenorth> :P 19:57:23 <andythenorth> SmurfTypes https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_The_Smurfs_characters 19:57:52 <andythenorth> I’ll just leave this here https://www.flickr.com/photos/andythenorth/4826895221/in/album-72157624454166047/lightbox/ 19:58:05 <andythenorth> that was a shitload of black beams for the rear deck 19:58:10 <Wolf01> Nice one 19:58:10 <andythenorth> and unbearable number of pins 19:58:24 <andythenorth> sometimes I look at it to remember why big is not best 20:00:45 <andythenorth> quite realism though http://s498.photobucket.com/user/bananaboat03/media/kenworth/015-13.jpg.html 20:01:24 <Wolf01> Yeah, I've seen one already :D 20:10:43 *** Lejving has joined #openttd 20:11:16 <Lejving> is it possible to stop towns building on my rail tracks?! or why do they not build any signals on it, making all my trucks crash 20:11:58 <Wolf01> Yes it is, just enable autoslope (it should be already enabled) and make a V trench under 2 parallel tracks 20:12:34 <andythenorth> ha, never thought of that 20:12:50 <andythenorth> I build signals, or buy adjoining land :P 20:13:28 <Wolf01> I build 4 signals on every line, I had to find a more suitable and clean solution :P 20:13:38 <Alkel_U3> I think there's a setting to disallow that. Or was it just in a patch? 20:14:18 <Lejving> but does anyone know why they stoped making signals on the rail 20:14:36 <Wolf01> You can disable town growth iirc, but I don't know if there are downsides 20:14:47 <Alkel_U3> yeah, Environment > Towns > Towns are allowed to build level crossing 20:15:33 <Lejving> grade crossings 20:15:35 <Alkel_U3> default on 20:15:35 <Lejving> that must be it 20:15:37 <Lejving> I'll disable it 20:18:24 <Lejving> man these towns really need to learn their place 20:18:31 <Lejving> keep messing with me 20:23:21 *** Flygon_ has joined #openttd 20:27:24 *** aard has quit IRC 20:28:13 *** Flygon has quit IRC 20:31:58 <andythenorth> is cat also 20:32:08 *** Eddi|zuHause3 is now known as Eddi|zuHause 20:32:19 <Eddi|zuHause> what's wrong with this network lately? 20:32:30 <andythenorth> not worky? 20:32:39 <Eddi|zuHause> problems connecting for days now 20:33:00 <glx> splits a lot when connected :) 20:36:26 <andythenorth> devzone is down too 20:36:33 <andythenorth> all the broken things 20:44:22 <Wolf01> It was my router, too much heating, it should be fixed now ;) 20:45:35 <^Spike^> sort of official word is attack on oftc network and to stop it they killed the A record to (irc/irc.geo).oftc.net 20:46:02 <Wolf01> Oh, the attack of some days ago? 20:46:07 <^Spike^> yep 20:46:19 <^Spike^> something like that can have a log effect 20:46:25 <^Spike^> experience has learned shamefully 20:46:41 <Eddi|zuHause> ^Spike^: but i tried directly connecting to some of the servers instead of irc.oftc.net, that timed out as well 20:46:53 <^Spike^> eh... 20:46:59 <^Spike^> there are several up... 20:47:02 <Wolf01> They seem to have changed dns 20:47:08 <^Spike^> try /links or /quote links 20:47:17 <^Spike^> depending on your irc client :) 20:47:25 <Wolf01> At least I had to flush my dns cache to be able to connect today 20:47:28 <^Spike^> it's a common tactic to stop attacks 20:47:32 <^Spike^> just change the dns 20:49:19 <^Spike^> 99% are dns based :) 20:49:55 <^Spike^> at work we mitigated an attack like that by suddenly spreading 2000 domains over 200 ips 20:50:09 <^Spike^> to figure out which of the 10 domains was being attacked 20:50:28 <^Spike^> so spreading them the whole time leads to the "victim" :) 20:51:13 <Wolf01> At least you had 200 ips, we had only 8 and 2 of them were used for our own stuff 20:51:40 <Wolf01> So it was a problem the last time we got an attack 20:52:37 <^Spike^> work at an isp... 20:52:42 <^Spike^> we got a few ranges around... :) 20:52:48 <Lejving> how come my best mine only has 91% transported? pretty sure there's a train there all the time 20:52:53 <^Spike^> and this customer had like 2 /21's so 20:53:05 <Wolf01> Oh ok, I worked at a web agency :P 20:53:09 <^Spike^> :) 20:53:59 <Wolf01> Also, that time was the isp which got attacked and we had to move locally all the biggest sites 20:54:06 <^Spike^> ah 20:54:19 <^Spike^> mitigation is a bitch that's all i say.... 20:54:32 <^Spike^> ok i just realized what i said... and somehow happy i didn't get kicked :) 20:56:16 <Wolf01> Lejving, it's not what it is loaded on a waiting train 20:56:55 <Wolf01> If you have a mammoth 255 wagons train which takes 4 months to load, you'll get 0% transported 20:57:32 <Lejving> so I shouldn't just care to make it 100% then 20:57:57 <Wolf01> You should balance the production and the running cost 20:58:15 <Wolf01> Or just ignore the % transported 20:59:45 *** sim-al2 has joined #openttd 21:02:32 <Wolf01> https://wiki.openttd.org/Game_mechanics read about some mechanics here, I don't know if this is still updated 21:06:39 *** Geth has quit IRC 21:06:45 <Lejving> ty Wolf01 21:07:52 <_dp_> Station ratings section is up to date 21:08:09 <_dp_> except for destination penalty 21:19:57 <Lejving> cool I just removed all my loops... no more deadlocks! 21:21:21 * andythenorth -> bed 21:21:28 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 21:25:31 *** kais58 has joined #openttd 21:40:33 <Lejving> any good money sink? I got 3344 millions lol 21:41:26 <Alkel_U3> bulldoze water for fun? 21:41:36 <Lejving> xD 21:41:40 <Lejving> useful money sink* 21:42:26 <Wolf01> There aren't, the game is about making money 21:42:45 <Wolf01> Fund a lot of industries, and then service them 21:42:53 <Wolf01> To make even more money 21:42:57 <Alkel_U3> ending up with much bigger income than you can really keep up spending is pretty normal 21:44:50 <Alkel_U3> actually, building on water a lot might be a usefull option in some cases, like on one of my favorite maps from the base TTD - Mountain :-) 21:46:07 <Lejving> hmm I can increase areas close to water to make more room 21:49:35 <Lejving> that was one 1k million gone 22:04:46 *** sim-al2 is now known as Guest247 22:04:48 *** sim-al2 has joined #openttd 22:09:48 *** Guest247 has quit IRC 22:18:08 *** mindlesstux has quit IRC 22:18:22 *** mindlesstux has joined #openttd 22:20:54 *** Progman has quit IRC 22:21:17 *** HerzogDeXtEr has quit IRC 22:26:29 *** mindlesstux has quit IRC 22:27:59 *** mindlesstux has joined #openttd 22:33:20 <Wolf01> 'night 22:33:22 *** Wolf01 has quit IRC 22:43:26 <Lejving> lev4 chimaera is not very slow 22:43:30 <Lejving> it is very fast 23:01:08 *** supermop has joined #openttd 23:26:19 *** gelignite has quit IRC 23:41:39 <Lejving> is it possible to see which trains do not have shared orders? or make all trains in a group share orders? 23:41:51 <Lejving> I just found one random train who did not have shared orders, possibly more =/ 23:52:37 *** mescalito has quit IRC 23:56:05 *** Snail has joined #openttd 23:57:09 *** gnu_jj has joined #openttd