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11:48:36 <Samu_> does it need a better helptext description? 11:50:59 <planetmaker> looks fine to me 11:55:21 <Samu_> ty 12:00:04 <Samu_> and become a permanent part 12:00:07 <Samu_> think it's better 12:06:26 <Samu_> if (_game_mode == GM_NORMAL && !_settings_game.construction.dynamite_river && !_cheats.magic_bulldozer.value) { 12:06:35 <Samu_> darn scenario editor 12:14:47 <Samu_> i assume in the scenario editor, ppl still want rivers to be removed when bulldozing them, right? 12:15:38 <planetmaker> they should 12:16:14 <Samu_> ok, then it stays like this 12:17:54 <Samu_> Money base_cost = IsCanal(tile) ? _price[PR_CLEAR_CANAL] : IsRiver(tile) && _game_mode == GM_NORMAL && !_settings_game.construction.dynamite_river && !_cheats.magic_bulldozer.value ? 0 : _price[PR_CLEAR_WATER]; 12:18:17 <Samu_> that '0' there... 12:18:19 <Samu_> oh well 12:20:52 <Samu_> alright, i'm creating the patch 12:29:11 <Wolf01> Why does OTTD need to scan grfs every 3 runs? 12:30:30 <Samu_> https://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=72691&p=1177085#p1177085 12:30:51 <Samu_> hopefully it's bug free, i'm running out of time today, going on a voyage :( 12:31:15 <Eddi|zuHause> because it checks every run, but after the 3rd it flushed them out of your disk cache? 12:31:59 <Wolf01> Could be 12:37:41 *** luaduck has quit IRC 12:39:22 *** luaduck has joined #openttd 13:20:28 *** Samu_ has quit IRC 13:45:03 *** sim-al2 has quit IRC 13:47:32 *** Myhorta has joined #openttd 14:26:04 *** Myhorta has quit IRC 14:35:15 *** Gja has joined #openttd 14:40:30 *** Alberth has joined #openttd 14:40:30 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Alberth 14:47:09 *** Lejving has joined #openttd 15:00:13 <Wolf01> o/ 15:23:20 <Fujk> how much cheaper are advertised vehicles vs buying them later? 15:31:06 *** CompuDesktop has joined #openttd 15:33:15 *** Compu has quit IRC 15:35:04 <Alberth> not, but you get them earlier, (and keep them longer iirc) 15:47:15 <supermop> yoi 15:51:20 <Alberth> moi 16:04:56 *** TheMask96 has quit IRC 16:10:19 *** TheMask96 has joined #openttd 16:22:12 *** sla_ro|master has joined #openttd 16:50:49 <Fujk> anyone have a good alpine map with big mountains where you need to make tracks between them? 16:54:36 *** Lejving has quit IRC 16:57:04 <Alberth> generate an arctice map with high variation? 16:57:13 <Alberth> *arctic 17:05:29 *** glx has joined #openttd 17:05:29 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v glx 17:07:59 *** keoz has quit IRC 17:39:58 *** Arveen has joined #openttd 17:41:27 *** Biolunar has quit IRC 17:56:35 *** Stimrol has quit IRC 17:57:53 *** Stimrol has joined #openttd 18:05:07 *** Wormnest has joined #openttd 18:17:07 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 18:18:23 <andythenorth> o/ 18:18:28 <andythenorth> supermop go again? 18:18:36 <andythenorth> anyone for MP goals game? 18:18:55 <supermop> i'm down if it can be less fast paced than yesterday 18:19:01 <andythenorth> ha ha 18:19:11 <andythenorth> that’s how NCG goes :) 18:19:11 <supermop> have a few work things to juggle and need to grab coffee 18:19:21 <andythenorth> if we played over 2 nights that would be better 18:19:36 * andythenorth went to bed too late and is paying for it today 18:19:38 <supermop> i think V453000 is running some yeti game on the pro server so we need another 18:19:41 <andythenorth> oh :P 18:19:45 <andythenorth> or we play yeti 18:20:20 <supermop> also, that Tassie height map probably would've worked better at a different scale 18:20:32 <V453000> nobody is playing there so it is absolutely no issue to load a game there guys 18:20:36 <V453000> or we can load it on stable 18:20:40 <V453000> just say if you like 18:22:02 <andythenorth> ta ) 18:22:12 <andythenorth> Alberth: MP game? o_O 18:22:23 <andythenorth> supermop: happy to play same map, but needs much higher industry density 18:22:26 <Alberth> sure 18:22:34 <V453000> if we feel like it is a problem, we will just revive .nightly 18:22:37 <supermop> andythenorth: same 18:22:42 <andythenorth> and if you want slower pace, we need to plan to play over 2 nights, for about 10-12 years, not 7 18:22:42 <V453000> no worries :) that's what the servers are for 18:22:51 <supermop> i just hit add random industries once 18:23:01 <supermop> let me alter the scenario 18:23:07 <supermop> 512 still good? 18:23:10 <andythenorth> yes fine 18:23:11 <Alberth> where, and what version? 18:23:12 <andythenorth> nice size 18:23:19 <V453000> andythenorth: our pro zone 18:23:24 <V453000> join #openttdcoop.pro 18:23:33 <supermop> im going to save it as 1.6.1 tho 18:23:42 <andythenorth> should be fine, backwards compatible 18:23:42 <supermop> will post in 5 min approx 18:23:43 <V453000> that's not an issue supermop 18:23:50 <V453000> we can use stable version if you want 18:23:53 <V453000> it's not an issue either 18:23:57 <V453000> at .stable 18:23:57 <andythenorth> supermop: also if the goals are mail or pax, we need more 50% towns 18:24:02 <andythenorth> and a few larger ones 18:24:14 <andythenorth> and AV9 18:24:23 <andythenorth> 1965 was a nice start year 18:24:28 <V453000> you might get other people playing on stable too, or we could just set password / company limit :) 18:24:39 <andythenorth> more is more fun 18:24:58 <andythenorth> supermop: also if you want a relaxing game, and there’s more of us, set £500k loan, not £300k 18:25:00 <V453000> in that case it's not an issue to load a map to the welcome server 18:25:09 <andythenorth> otherwise first 30 mins are people waiting to spend money 18:25:21 <V453000> hehe 18:25:32 *** aard has joined #openttd 18:25:46 <andythenorth> we got completely owned yesterday 18:25:56 <andythenorth> oh remember that NCG has an obiwan in the year also :P 18:25:57 <supermop> any other newgrf wanted? 18:26:07 <andythenorth> I was fine except for adding AV9 18:26:07 <supermop> obiwan? 18:26:18 <andythenorth> goal window said ‘end of 1972' 18:26:30 <andythenorth> but game stopped at end of 1971 18:26:41 <andythenorth> it’s a known issue, there might be a newer NCG that fixes it 18:26:55 <supermop> thats newest on nanas 18:27:04 <andythenorth> ok, well we just need to remember 18:27:06 <supermop> reduce av9 cost? 18:27:09 <andythenorth> maybe 18:27:11 <supermop> param 18:27:20 <andythenorth> I think we might have at least won food if it wasn’t for that date bug :P 18:27:31 <Alberth> oh, it runs trunk 18:28:29 <V453000> Alberth: I guess we use .stable 18:28:43 <V453000> right guys? 18:28:52 <supermop> k 18:28:59 <Alberth> k 18:29:11 <andythenorth> #openttdcoop.stable ? 18:29:16 <V453000> yarr 18:29:44 <supermop> cdist on for all cargoes? 18:29:50 <andythenorth> I wouldn’t bother 18:29:53 <andythenorth> it was quite nice not to 18:30:06 <andythenorth> cdist buys very little, except pax transfers tbh 18:30:33 <supermop> town growth speed normal? 18:30:48 <andythenorth> yair 18:30:52 <andythenorth> or high 18:30:53 <andythenorth> don’t mind 18:31:51 <andythenorth> Alberth: what time is bed time for you? I am one hour behind, and want to stop playing at 22.00 my local time :) 18:31:57 <andythenorth> that is maybe a bit late for you? 18:32:02 <Alberth> it is 18:32:05 <supermop> plane speed 1/4? 18:32:18 <andythenorth> supermop: any is fine 18:32:25 <andythenorth> whatever AV9 recommends 18:32:30 <Alberth> I tend to go to bed at 10.00 local time too, ie one hour before you 18:32:56 <andythenorth> supermop: what TZ are you in? 18:33:21 <supermop> nyc 18:33:29 <supermop> 10 years, 10,000 cargo? 18:33:37 <andythenorth> supermop: 14.33 where you are? 18:33:43 <supermop> yeah 18:33:48 <andythenorth> 13 years, 50k cargo :) 18:33:50 <andythenorth> there are 3 of us 18:33:58 <andythenorth> that’s 12 years of playing, due to the bug :P 18:34:48 <Alberth> ncg bug? 18:35:06 <andythenorth> it reports the game will last 1 year longer than it does 18:35:23 <Alberth> silly :) 18:37:01 <andythenorth> supermop: same FIRS economy? 18:37:06 <andythenorth> or IAHC? 18:37:57 <Alberth> ha, new acronyms :p 18:38:37 <andythenorth> In A Hot Country :) 18:38:46 <Alberth> yeah :) 18:39:00 <Alberth> BAM is nicer :p 18:39:10 <Alberth> Basic Arctic Map :p 18:43:59 <supermop> https://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=1177179#p1177179 18:44:33 <supermop> gah should have added american roads 18:44:42 <supermop> anyway have at it lads 18:44:45 <andythenorth> let’s go 18:44:53 <supermop> im gonna get coffee be on in a sec 18:45:02 <supermop> rail blue again? 18:46:10 <andythenorth> any 18:50:22 <supermop> ok 18:51:08 *** FLHerne has joined #openttd 18:59:18 *** Progman has joined #openttd 19:04:43 <Wolf01> So... TL;DR, what happened today? 19:10:57 <V453000> shit exploded 19:13:23 <andythenorth> Wolf01: play coop game? 19:13:28 <andythenorth> #openttdcoop.pro 19:29:34 *** HerzogDeXtEr has joined #openttd 19:34:24 *** Lejving has joined #openttd 19:36:25 *** Arveen has quit IRC 19:41:30 *** frosch123 has joined #openttd 19:41:47 <Wolf01> Quak 19:42:52 <frosch123> moi 19:43:45 <frosch123> ah, xkcd features andy again 19:44:12 <Wolf01> XD 19:46:37 *** LongyanG has quit IRC 19:59:33 *** FLHerne has quit IRC 20:10:36 *** gelignite has joined #openttd 20:10:57 *** LongyanG has joined #openttd 20:11:58 *** gelignite has quit IRC 20:14:35 *** gelignite has joined #openttd 20:16:52 *** sim-al2 has joined #openttd 20:23:02 <andythenorth> frosch123: we’re in #openttdcoop.pro btw 20:23:04 <andythenorth> game 20:23:24 <frosch123> how unusual :) 20:23:58 *** Myhorta has joined #openttd 20:29:11 *** aard has quit IRC 20:44:30 *** frosch123 has quit IRC 20:46:01 *** FLHerne has joined #openttd 20:47:30 *** andythenorth has left #openttd 20:47:34 *** Alberth has left #openttd 20:53:42 *** smoke_fumus has joined #openttd 21:41:48 *** gelignite has quit IRC 21:43:24 *** Progman has quit IRC 21:43:57 *** Biolunar has joined #openttd 21:44:06 *** sla_ro|master has quit IRC 21:47:59 *** FLHerne has quit IRC 21:48:34 *** FLHerne has joined #openttd 22:17:10 *** urdh has quit IRC 22:18:17 *** Wormnest has quit IRC 22:24:27 *** urdh has joined #openttd 22:31:05 *** tycoondemon2 has joined #openttd 22:34:59 *** Biolunar has quit IRC 22:36:31 *** tycoondemon has quit IRC 22:48:39 <Wolf01> https://www.openttd.org/en/server/40397 lol... when did they create that savegame? in 0.4.7? 22:55:27 <Eddi|zuHause> @calc (132089-1950)*365/74/3600/24 22:55:27 <DorpsGek> Eddi|zuHause: 7.42941926301 22:55:47 <Eddi|zuHause> that's probably not right 22:56:36 <Eddi|zuHause> @calc (132089-1950)*365*74/33/3600/24 22:56:36 <DorpsGek> Eddi|zuHause: 1232.83332983 22:56:43 <Eddi|zuHause> @calc (132089-1950)*365*74/33/3600/24/365 22:56:43 <DorpsGek> Eddi|zuHause: 3.37762556117 22:57:04 <Eddi|zuHause> 3 years and a bit if continuously unpaused 23:00:28 *** Snail has joined #openttd 23:01:29 <Wolf01> I should look for my old games, I made some weird things in those, when I was a pro player 23:02:29 <Wolf01> Oh, I have one save from 2008, in tropical climate 23:07:42 <Wolf01> No, it was 2006, the last save from that was 2008 23:08:04 <Wolf01> More than 10 years :D 23:15:02 <LordAro> i could probably find some of my TTD saves, given time 23:18:03 <Wolf01> I found that I was really good at making junctions with block signals and presignals, specially when I had a few space and needed to not block a single track with 2 junctions at both ends 23:20:23 <Eddi|zuHause> i have some TTO savegames from about 20 years ago 23:21:01 <Wolf01> I lost the TTDX saves many years ago when the old HDD broke :( 23:21:08 <Eddi|zuHause> unfortunately i lost my very first game when the world editor expansion came out, due to it unconditionally using the first savegame as autosave 23:21:47 <Eddi|zuHause> and before that i played the demo a bunch of times, which i did not save 23:23:03 <Wolf01> I played the demo for ages too 23:23:54 <Wolf01> Then I found TTDPatch, obtained the Win95 game, OTTD came out, profit? 23:29:19 *** Myhorta has quit IRC 23:50:22 *** Lejving has quit IRC 23:52:59 *** HerzogDeXtEr has quit IRC