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00:21:39 *** Thedarkb-X40 has quit IRC 00:21:56 *** Thedarkb-X40 has joined #openttd 01:00:33 *** Flygon has joined #openttd 01:10:14 *** Zexaron has quit IRC 01:39:01 *** sim-al2 has joined #openttd 01:59:42 *** glx has quit IRC 02:46:53 *** muffindrake2 has joined #openttd 02:48:42 *** muffindrake1 has quit IRC 02:53:13 *** ZehMatt has joined #openttd 02:53:13 *** ZehMatt_ has quit IRC 03:16:01 *** sim-al2 is now known as Guest1584 03:16:03 *** sim-al2 has joined #openttd 03:21:04 *** Guest1584 has quit IRC 03:22:48 *** qwebirc86530 has joined #openttd 03:23:22 <qwebirc86530> Hi, anyone there? 03:23:49 <qwebirc86530> I was considering that using an in-game cryptocurrency would be cool, and saving the game onto a blockchain. 03:25:18 <LANJesus> uh, make a patch? 03:25:47 <qwebirc86530> It would maybe be a fork, as it would be quite different. 03:26:01 <qwebirc86530> OpenTTD would be a great testing-ground for it. 03:29:09 <qwebirc86530> Plus stock in the companies within an OpenTTD game could be tradable on that blockchain. 03:50:21 *** moodylinx has joined #openttd 04:06:07 *** ToBeFree has joined #openttd 04:28:02 *** sla_ro|master has joined #openttd 05:05:38 *** Cubey has quit IRC 05:11:05 <Eddi|zuHause> we should totally reimplement multiplayer as a blockchain, never desync again... 05:30:19 *** moodylinx has quit IRC 05:45:07 *** Thedarkb-X40 has quit IRC 05:45:56 *** Thedarkb-X40 has joined #openttd 05:52:15 *** FLHerne has quit IRC 05:52:26 *** Thedarkb-X40 has quit IRC 05:52:37 *** Thedarkb-X40 has joined #openttd 05:52:57 *** FLHerne has joined #openttd 06:01:48 *** supermop_work_ has joined #openttd 06:08:08 *** supermop_work has quit IRC 06:14:06 *** sim-al2 has quit IRC 06:15:35 *** ToBeFree has quit IRC 06:37:49 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 06:38:41 <andythenorth> Pikka: other than 'smaller', what should NG trains do for UK horse? o_O 06:38:52 <andythenorth> also hi 06:43:18 *** sla_ro|master has quit IRC 06:48:26 <V453000> such engine 06:50:12 <andythenorth> V453000: all code generated? o_O 06:50:25 <V453000> nah 06:50:55 <andythenorth> code faster 06:51:03 <V453000> at work :) 06:51:14 <andythenorth> automate work 06:51:16 <andythenorth> do ottd 06:51:26 <V453000> haha 07:35:22 *** andythenorth has left #openttd 08:17:01 <Pikka> yes? 08:17:05 *** Pikka has quit IRC 08:30:28 <peter1138> That moment when you git checkout . instead of git reset . 08:32:03 <LordAro> ono 08:37:08 <peter1138> Hmm, gitfs... :p 08:42:27 <peter1138> https://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=1206331#p1206331 08:42:34 <peter1138> Hmm, well, no point in me doing a patch... 08:42:47 <peter1138> Although I suspect that's a patch on top of cirdan's patch, not standalone. 10:21:42 *** tokai|noir has quit IRC 10:33:32 *** smoke_fumus has quit IRC 11:31:52 *** crem1 has joined #openttd 11:32:31 *** crem has quit IRC 11:35:12 *** sim-al2 has joined #openttd 12:02:12 *** markyisri has joined #openttd 12:02:23 <markyisri> Wiki alert: vandalism on https://wiki.openttd.org/?title=Aircraft 12:02:49 <markyisri> does someone have the power to fix that? 12:05:08 <__ln__> does that require any more power than being a registered user and not having a permanent ban on the wiki? 12:07:40 <markyisri> how do i register? 12:07:55 <markyisri> never mind 12:07:57 <markyisri> i found it 12:07:59 <markyisri> finally 12:08:18 *** markyisri has quit IRC 12:11:19 *** debdog has quit IRC 12:14:45 *** debdog has joined #openttd 12:36:16 *** sim-al2 has quit IRC 12:38:42 *** snail_UES_ has joined #openttd 12:50:06 *** snail_UES_ has quit IRC 13:07:47 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 13:24:41 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 13:25:37 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 13:27:03 <supermop_work_> yo 13:27:42 <andythenorth> lo supermop_work_ 13:35:32 <supermop_work_> how are the horses 13:37:10 <andythenorth> narrow 13:37:25 <andythenorth> so one roster of wagons and coaches for NG 13:37:36 <andythenorth> and then a new engine every ~40 years? 13:37:43 <andythenorth> and mumble mumble railcars 13:39:08 <andythenorth> but I dunno about 'small' and 'large' engines 13:39:33 <andythenorth> Horse 1 NG starts at 350HP and progresses to 900HP over time 13:39:50 <Eddi|zuHause> there have been plenty of NG railcars 13:40:01 <andythenorth> ah that's the other question 13:40:11 <andythenorth> do I stick to 'UK and Ireland'? 13:40:36 <andythenorth> for which there are just enough prototypes or 'might have beens' for a roster 13:40:36 <Eddi|zuHause> i can't answer that 13:40:52 <andythenorth> or do I expand it to something oddball like Corsica, or Finland? 13:41:10 <andythenorth> I think probably UK + Eire, and just invent for any gaps 13:42:29 *** Alberth has joined #openttd 13:42:29 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Alberth 13:48:29 *** nielsm has joined #openttd 14:04:11 <peter1138> andythenorth, https://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=1206331#p1206331 -- I guess I don't need to do much 14:21:27 <andythenorth> peter1138: depends if it's mergeable :D 15:04:47 *** Thedarkb1 has quit IRC 15:05:14 <peter1138> Unlikely. 15:05:29 *** Mahjong1 has joined #openttd 15:10:22 *** Mahjong has quit IRC 15:11:39 *** synchris has joined #openttd 15:13:48 *** qwebirc86530 has quit IRC 15:14:24 *** qwebirc95544 has joined #openttd 15:18:56 <qwebirc95544> I closed the browser window, missed the responses anyone wrote about cryptocurrency. Any chance someone would paste it back or email me? 15:19:27 <qwebirc95544> not sure that I can get the icq history through webchat.oftc.net :( 15:19:47 <peter1138> I doubt you can get anything about ICQ from IRC. 15:20:06 <peter1138> But no, there was no response. 15:33:11 *** Gja has joined #openttd 15:42:42 *** HerzogDeXtEr has joined #openttd 15:46:10 *** Cubey has joined #openttd 15:49:38 *** Progman has joined #openttd 16:21:27 *** TheMask96 has quit IRC 16:23:40 *** TheMask96 has joined #openttd 16:25:35 *** Thedarkb1-X40 has joined #openttd 16:32:08 *** Thedarkb-X40 has quit IRC 16:34:20 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 16:50:16 *** sla_ro|master has joined #openttd 16:50:16 *** techmagus has quit IRC 16:50:54 *** Flygon has quit IRC 16:59:31 *** techmagus has joined #openttd 17:06:16 *** Pikka has joined #openttd 17:11:16 *** Wolf01 has joined #openttd 17:11:20 <Wolf01> o/ 17:13:03 *** gelignite has joined #openttd 17:19:24 <Alberth> o/ 17:23:57 *** Gja has quit IRC 17:31:11 *** glx has joined #openttd 17:31:11 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v glx 17:37:20 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 17:40:55 <andythenorth> o/ 17:46:58 *** Mahjong1 is now known as Mahjong 17:54:38 <Wolf01> https://xkcd.com/1988/ Seem a discussion between andythenorth and TrueBrain 17:56:23 <V453000> :D 17:57:44 <andythenorth> V453000: IS IT DONE? 17:57:46 <andythenorth> WHY NOT? 17:57:54 <V453000> n 17:58:08 <andythenorth> $reasons 18:00:30 *** frosch123 has joined #openttd 18:02:13 <Pikka> o/ 18:02:35 <Wolf01> Quak 18:02:41 <Pikka> yoyo 18:03:38 <V453000> yoyo 18:05:30 <Pikka> so 18:05:41 <Pikka> what's the "correct" place to put a ship depot? 18:05:44 <frosch123> moi 18:06:21 <Wolf01> Near the dock, along the route so the ship doesn't take weird turns 18:06:37 <Wolf01> Also one near the middle of the route 18:06:40 <andythenorth> Pikka: next to a straight piece of shore, or 1 tile offshore 18:06:48 <andythenorth> at the dock where the route starts 18:07:14 <Pikka> o/ 18:07:24 <andythenorth> http://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/9031/dock.png 18:07:30 *** Thedarkb has joined #openttd 18:08:20 <andythenorth> http://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/9032/dock_2.png 18:08:31 <andythenorth> oops, 'dock' should be 'depot' :P 18:08:36 <Pikka> what about facing out from the coast, andythenorth? especially in towns? 18:08:45 <andythenorth> yuck 18:08:53 <andythenorth> you might have reasons I didn't think of 18:09:12 <V453000> That's not trains. 18:09:30 <andythenorth> DELETE GAME 18:09:47 <andythenorth> GO PLAY WITH BARBIE 18:09:51 <andythenorth> YOU ARE KID 18:09:56 <andythenorth> oh is this not World of Tanks? 18:10:10 <Pikka> world of depots 18:10:37 <andythenorth> I wouldn't mind if they'd sent abusive spam like..."You are clearly 40 years old and your reaction times were always poor anyway" 18:10:43 <andythenorth> "Maybe give up and play Farmville" 18:10:45 <V453000> xd 18:11:01 <andythenorth> but no it was always "STUPID KID ON RICH DADDYS ACCOUNT" 18:11:10 <andythenorth> etc 18:11:12 <Pikka> projection and such 18:11:17 <andythenorth> such 18:11:41 <andythenorth> well that's like £100 of tanks I'm not using 18:11:44 <andythenorth> and no secondary market :P 18:12:06 <andythenorth> World of GRFs 18:12:13 <Pikka> microtransactions in OpenTTD, we'll all be rich 18:12:19 <andythenorth> did we add crypto yet? 18:12:30 <andythenorth> we can get rich in non-transferrable virtual currency 18:12:35 *** Borg has joined #openttd 18:13:07 <andythenorth> so Horse narrow gauge gives you 4 engines and 2 railcars 18:13:10 <andythenorth> you'll love it :P 18:13:18 <andythenorth> that's probably 2 too many 18:14:10 <Pikka> what's their special power? being small? 18:16:18 <andythenorth> mostly 18:16:29 <andythenorth> not sure which arbitrary length rules to impose :P 18:16:50 <andythenorth> all 4/8? :P 18:18:20 <Alberth> all multiples of 1/8 18:32:26 <andythenorth> can I actually read 'wagonspeedlimits' ? 18:32:38 <andythenorth> and what does 'Speed increase for empty wagons' have to do with it? o_O 18:32:41 <andythenorth> https://newgrf-specs.tt-wiki.net/wiki/ReadingPatchVariables 18:41:56 <Pikka> bad ttdpatch features 18:51:48 <andythenorth> wondering if I should try and hide wagons 18:51:53 <andythenorth> if speed limits are off 18:51:57 <andythenorth> V453000 was traumatised 18:52:46 <V453000> well it looks proper wtf without them :P 18:52:52 <V453000> just couldn't tell the difference 18:53:31 <V453000> btw I think the engine-engine connecting still breaks on maximum speed 18:53:33 <V453000> :/ 18:53:50 <V453000> as that doesn't add up, just subtract 19:04:57 <Pikka> andythenorth, I vaguely remember mb catching flack for "enforcing" wagon speed limits by checking the parameter. if people want to play with wagon speedlimits off, let them. 19:05:35 <V453000> andythenorth: just activate secret corrupted-like index recolour tables :P 19:06:14 <andythenorth> Pikka: I was going to just remove all the spurious wagons if wagon speed limits are off 19:06:23 <andythenorth> no point in 6 identical wagons :P 19:06:29 <andythenorth> dunno if I can 19:06:45 <V453000> just move them to NO_CLIMATE so that it doesn't fuck up saves 19:06:59 <Pikka> is there much point in 6 wagons identical except speed limit? :P 19:07:01 <V453000> I do that with nyan cats 19:07:36 <andythenorth> Pikka: it's just the logical consequence of this design :P 19:07:44 <andythenorth> I don't particularly like it, but eh 19:08:02 <andythenorth> every engine generation has to have a wagon upgrade 19:08:34 <andythenorth> the capacity also progresses I guess 19:08:53 <andythenorth> oh actually it doesn't :) 19:09:04 <andythenorth> I worked out that capacity progress is stupid 19:09:32 <V453000> well if they have unique graphics, everyone is happy 19:09:36 <V453000> even people who don't use speed limits 19:10:01 <V453000> Yes I did just ask you to draw 5 times more stuff. :D 19:10:18 <andythenorth> they are unique, but not that unique 19:10:29 <andythenorth> if they're unique, they don't look the same 19:10:34 <andythenorth> and looking the same is kind of the point 19:10:43 <V453000> well :) 19:11:04 <V453000> if it works different, looking different sounds like a reasonable fit :P 19:11:27 <andythenorth> depends on 'different' 19:11:42 <V453000> ye 19:12:13 <andythenorth> from what I've drawn, I already know that people can't tell hopper and dump cars apart 19:12:34 <andythenorth> and they're quite different 19:12:44 <andythenorth> so the small differences I've drawn won't be noticed by some/many 19:13:22 <andythenorth> I think the whole concept is quite flawed tbh 19:13:30 <andythenorth> but I've pushed it extreme conclusion 19:14:02 <V453000> I want to try it at least :) just need to find time :) 19:14:22 <andythenorth> it's not done yet 19:14:40 <V453000> well if numbers are done, it's enough for now :P 19:14:48 <V453000> prototype, yo 19:15:17 <andythenorth> mail cars are most wtf http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/iron-horse/push/LATEST/docs/html/trains.html#mail_car_pony_gen_1A 19:15:20 <andythenorth> 16 mail cars 19:15:28 <andythenorth> 3 generations, and integer lengths 19:15:37 <nielsm> https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/6774 <-- any other opinions? I suppose the verdict is to fix what's fixable in the DMusic driver and keep it for now, until there is a better softsynth available in windows builds 19:15:40 <andythenorth> and 2 liveries for pax, and 2 for mail 19:15:54 <andythenorth> and 3 random variants for mail 19:16:01 <andythenorth> for all cars 19:16:04 <V453000> they're recognizably different 19:16:10 <andythenorth> and opening doors 19:16:15 <V453000> nice 19:16:27 *** Borg has quit IRC 19:16:49 <andythenorth> @calc 16 * 8 19:16:49 <DorpsGek> andythenorth: 128 19:16:56 <andythenorth> yeah about 128 individual mail car sprites 19:17:20 <andythenorth> and 4 views for each 19:17:33 <andythenorth> thing is, one you've seen a NUTS spritesheet, it doesn't look much 19:24:24 <peter1138> Hi 19:24:40 <andythenorth> hi peter1138 19:26:31 *** synchris has quit IRC 19:28:24 <Wolf01> Eddi|zuHause: patch for TF, seem a bit better, 60fps for sure now 19:29:43 <Wolf01> Also no more freezes on month change, and that's a big improvement 19:42:46 *** supermop_work_ has quit IRC 19:47:39 *** Wormnest has joined #openttd 19:53:20 <andythenorth> hmm 19:53:27 <andythenorth> 2/8 is daft in the \ / views 19:54:52 <andythenorth> 3/8 is minimum viable :) 20:09:09 *** frosch123 has quit IRC 20:17:04 *** sla_ro|master has quit IRC 20:17:44 *** supermop_work has joined #openttd 20:21:43 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 20:21:55 *** Gja has joined #openttd 20:24:09 *** Alberth has left #openttd 20:39:26 <peter1138> Hmm 20:39:47 <Pikka> hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm 20:53:47 *** nielsm has quit IRC 21:07:55 *** gelignite has quit IRC 21:10:37 <Wolf01> 'night 21:10:40 *** Wolf01 has quit IRC 21:17:22 *** sim-al2 has joined #openttd 21:25:45 *** Gja has quit IRC 21:31:43 *** Progman has quit IRC 21:34:38 *** Zexaron has joined #openttd 21:49:17 *** Stimrol has quit IRC 21:59:08 *** HerzogDeXtEr has quit IRC 22:26:15 *** Extrems` has joined #openttd 22:29:58 *** Thedarkb has quit IRC 22:31:49 *** Extrems has quit IRC 22:31:49 *** Extrems` is now known as Extrems 22:40:54 *** supermop_work has quit IRC 22:50:15 *** Zexaron has quit IRC 23:12:32 *** Wormnest has quit IRC