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01:36:33 *** glx has quit IRC 02:29:00 *** Thedarkb-X40 has quit IRC 02:32:52 *** Thedarkb-X40 has joined #openttd 02:36:48 *** Flygon has joined #openttd 02:42:26 *** debdog has joined #openttd 02:45:39 *** D-HUND has quit IRC 03:11:57 *** Wormnest has quit IRC 03:59:45 *** HerzogDeXtEr has quit IRC 04:59:32 *** Flygon has quit IRC 05:00:44 *** Flygon has joined #openttd 05:39:13 <Afdal> woo 05:39:27 <Afdal> love that new behavior that doesn't open a new window every time you clone a vehicle 06:54:33 *** Progman has joined #openttd 07:10:24 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 07:11:02 <andythenorth> moin 07:11:21 <Arveen> moni 07:29:08 *** debdog has quit IRC 08:02:21 *** nielsm has joined #openttd 08:11:51 <andythenorth> is cat? 08:21:18 *** Wolf01 has joined #openttd 08:22:08 <Wolf01> Bleurgh, it's impossible to go outside, it's damp and hot 08:24:23 *** Alkel_U3 has quit IRC 08:26:02 *** Alkel_U3 has joined #openttd 08:40:50 *** Markk has joined #openttd 09:11:50 *** arikover has joined #openttd 09:15:14 *** Samu has joined #openttd 09:19:13 *** Markk has joined #openttd 09:24:01 <argoneus> moin 09:24:54 <Markk> Moinmoin 09:25:42 <Samu> moan 09:25:46 <Arveen> MROW 09:26:04 <Markk> Wroom, wroom 09:26:12 <Markk> Says the diesel locomotive. 09:33:37 * andythenorth codes visual effects 10:09:43 * Wolf01 misread again 10:13:35 *** MrNiceGuy has joined #openttd 10:18:40 *** MrNiceGuy has quit IRC 10:39:36 <michi_cc> TrueBrain: IPv6 died again :( 10:46:25 <andythenorth> no more MrNiceGuy :( 11:20:18 *** debdog has joined #openttd 11:50:06 <Samu> I notice my ai wastes too much money initiating advertising campaigns 11:50:29 <Samu> it could have used that money on statues first 11:50:50 <Samu> must recheck code, see how I have this done 12:06:47 <TrueBrain> michi_cc: should be fixed again 12:07:30 <andythenorth> hi TB 12:10:47 <Samu> eh, it'll eventually build all needed statues 12:11:10 <Samu> but i should prioritize statue first 12:11:18 <Samu> advertising campaigns second 12:11:26 *** cHawk has quit IRC 12:11:42 <Samu> will have to see how I can do this 12:11:47 <DorpsGek_II> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] fsimonis commented on pull request #7270: Introduce CMake (and removing all other project-related code) https://git.io/fj7oR 12:18:34 *** cHawk has joined #openttd 12:34:32 *** Progman has quit IRC 12:52:14 <andythenorth> hmm 12:52:20 <andythenorth> I think Iron Horse sprites all need redrawn 12:52:38 <andythenorth> it seems that the \ / angles are all the wrong size 12:52:47 <Arveen> wasnt it just finished ? 12:53:04 <andythenorth> 2.0.0 beta 12:53:27 <andythenorth> I can't make steam engine smoke line up with the chimneys for all angles 12:53:35 <andythenorth> I need to redraw them to where OpenTTD puts the smoke 12:59:59 <Arveen> hmmm 13:36:28 <DorpsGek_II> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] DerDakon commented on pull request #7270: Introduce CMake (and removing all other project-related code) https://git.io/fj7KD 13:47:38 <arikover> andythenorth: Wouldn't it be possible to position the steam exactly where you want it with CB160? 13:47:55 <andythenorth> if I use an 80+ var yes 13:48:00 <andythenorth> to read the vehicles angle 13:48:29 *** Gumle2 has joined #openttd 13:49:33 <Eddi|zuHause> that should exist 13:52:46 <andythenorth> it does I believe 13:59:59 <TrueBrain> hi andythenorth; sorry, I am a bit slow :P 14:00:21 * andythenorth watches weather 14:00:26 <andythenorth> very windy 14:16:56 *** Gumle2 has quit IRC 14:26:03 <Samu> hmm, maybe the way I had was fine, I'm not sure 14:26:21 <Samu> need to make a side by side comparison 14:52:06 <Eddi|zuHause> tell that to luxemburg? 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21:30:35 <FLHerne> (which is usually the one you want, because shared orders are useful) 21:32:44 <Samu> alright, i'm off to bed 21:32:54 <Samu> take care 21:33:05 *** Samu has quit IRC 21:52:25 *** gelignite has quit IRC 22:04:31 *** Wormnest has joined #openttd 22:16:31 *** nielsm has quit IRC 22:27:03 *** arikover has quit IRC 22:51:28 <Afdal> Yeah sorry that's what I mean 22:51:39 <Afdal> behavior used to be to open a new window every time you share-cloned 22:51:45 <Afdal> this is an excellent change, bravo 22:51:59 <Afdal> Now OpenTTD just needs a "start all vehicles in depot" button 22:58:38 <FLHerne> Er, that exists too 22:59:23 <FLHerne> It's the little green dot, bottom-right 23:00:06 <FLHerne> I just about remember new windows when share-cloning, but it was fixed several releases ago 23:00:50 *** Wolf01 has quit IRC 23:01:37 *** Thedarkb-X40 has joined #openttd 23:08:57 <Eddi|zuHause> Afdal: strangely, we had complaints in the opposite direction recently 23:24:12 *** snail_UES_ has quit IRC 23:46:07 <Afdal> o rly 23:46:48 <Afdal> Has that little green flag in the bottom right always been there 23:46:54 <Afdal> and I just forgot 23:47:21 <Afdal> What do you mean complaints in the opposite direction 23:47:32 <Afdal> PEople actually enjoy filling their screen with windows when they make a lot of new vehicles? 23:50:03 *** HerzogDeXtEr has quit IRC 23:56:15 <Eddi|zuHause> Afdal: not always, but for a really long time