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00:02:27 <DCritic> @stage being noobbish 00:02:27 *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG #161 (r17687) | STAGE: being noobbish | www.openttdcoop.org | Use !help for IRC-commands | Screenshots: http://mz.openttdcoop.org/img/ | Coopetition ladder: http://mz.openttdcoop.org/ladder | IS2/FIRS game at #openttdcoop.dev | New players, use @quickstart" 00:02:33 <DCritic> !! oops 00:02:40 <DCritic> @stage Voting 00:02:40 *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG #161 (r17687) | STAGE: Voting | www.openttdcoop.org | Use !help for IRC-commands | Screenshots: http://mz.openttdcoop.org/img/ | Coopetition ladder: http://mz.openttdcoop.org/ladder | IS2/FIRS game at #openttdcoop.dev | New players, use @quickstart" 00:02:59 <DCritic> @stage Voting (and planning) 00:03:00 *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG #161 (r17687) | STAGE: Voting (and planning) | www.openttdcoop.org | Use !help for IRC-commands | Screenshots: http://mz.openttdcoop.org/img/ | Coopetition ladder: http://mz.openttdcoop.org/ladder | IS2/FIRS game at #openttdcoop.dev | New players, use @quickstart" 00:03:09 <PeterT> Thanks for putting it back 00:03:26 <DCritic> i didnt know i could change it 00:03:48 <DCritic> @quickstart 00:03:49 <Webster> Quickstart - #openttdcoop Wiki - http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/Quickstart 00:04:10 <PeterT> yes, it's a flaw 00:04:45 <KenjiE20> no it's not 00:05:19 <KenjiE20> It's left that way, otherwise I'd have to make all the member sign up to the bot, which would be annoying and needless 00:06:17 <PeterT> aren't all the members already signed up to the bot? 00:06:22 <KenjiE20> no 00:06:42 <KenjiE20> why would they need to? it's not member critical 00:07:21 <PeterT> ok...sorry! 00:12:19 <PublicServer> *** Kupuham has left the game (leaving) 00:23:08 *** KenjiE20|LT has joined #openttdcoop 00:23:09 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o KenjiE20|LT 00:23:13 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v KenjiE20|LT 00:23:46 <Kupuham> !password 00:23:47 <PublicServer> Kupuham: fonder 00:24:00 <PublicServer> *** Kupuham joined the game 00:24:30 *** KenjiE20 has quit IRC 00:27:00 <PeterT> !players 00:27:01 <PublicServer> PeterT: Client 170 (Orange) is Kupuham, in company 1 (Condinghead Transport) 00:27:12 <PeterT> kupuham, i'll come and unpause 00:28:01 <Kupuham> No need 00:28:06 <PeterT> ok 00:28:24 <Kupuham> I have no idea of what I would do, or plan =) 00:28:30 <PeterT> :) 00:33:18 *** welshdragon has quit IRC 00:40:21 <Kupuham> So, any chance building will begin today? 00:41:06 <PeterT> probably not 00:41:58 <PeterT> !password 00:41:59 <PublicServer> PeterT: hagged 00:50:16 <PeterT> !password 00:50:16 <PublicServer> PeterT: petite 00:50:50 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (enough players) 00:50:50 <PublicServer> *** Peter joined the game 00:51:15 <PublicServer> <Peter> hey 00:52:22 <PublicServer> <Peter> hey Kupuham 00:52:27 <PublicServer> <Peter> you should vote 00:55:57 <PublicServer> *** Peter has left the game (leaving) 00:55:57 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (not enough players) 01:00:54 <Kupuham> There isn't much of a competition, is there? 01:05:48 *** Xaroth_ has joined #openttdcoop 01:05:53 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v Xaroth_ 01:11:45 *** Xaroth__ has joined #openttdcoop 01:11:50 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v Xaroth__ 01:12:51 *** Xaroth has quit IRC 01:18:51 *** Xaroth_ has quit IRC 01:23:09 <DCritic> !PLAYERS 01:23:16 <DCritic> !players 01:23:17 <DCritic> s 01:23:17 <DCritic> s 01:23:17 <DCritic> s 01:23:17 <DCritic> s 01:23:18 <PublicServer> DCritic: Client 170 (Orange) is Kupuham, in company 1 (Condinghead Transport) 01:23:51 <PeterT> nice 01:23:51 <PeterT> ... 01:25:04 <PeterT> Kupuham, it's openttdCOOP, 01:30:12 *** Fuco has quit IRC 01:45:59 <Kupuham> I mean between the plans 01:51:01 *** themroc- has joined #openttdcoop 01:51:06 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v themroc- 01:55:17 *** DCritic has quit IRC 01:55:40 <PublicServer> *** Kupuham has left the game (leaving) 02:06:37 *** mib_1a9jpv has joined #openttdcoop 02:06:42 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v mib_1a9jpv 02:06:56 *** mib_1a9jpv has quit IRC 02:07:13 *** Keiya has joined #openttdcoop 02:07:19 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v Keiya 02:07:24 <Keiya> Hi guys! Remember me? :P 02:11:37 <PeterT> Keiya: no, tons of people come to this channel ;-) 02:12:13 *** PeterT has quit IRC 02:12:27 *** Kupuham has quit IRC 02:15:15 <Keiya> That's what I thought, yay! 02:15:28 *** mib_0oex3tqd has joined #openttdcoop 02:15:33 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v mib_0oex3tqd 02:15:36 *** mib_0oex3tqd is now known as Kupuham 02:33:31 *** KenjiE20|LT has quit IRC 02:39:56 *** themroc- has quit IRC 02:48:21 *** Xaroth has joined #openttdcoop 02:48:26 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v Xaroth 02:55:04 *** Xaroth__ has quit IRC 02:56:06 *** Kupuham has quit IRC 03:26:22 *** Keiya has quit IRC 04:22:01 *** Flash3JI0 has joined #openttdcoop 04:22:06 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v Flash3JI0 04:23:04 <Flash3JI0> !password 04:23:04 <PublicServer> Flash3JI0: tweaks 04:23:16 <PublicServer> *** Flash@3JI0 joined the game 04:31:19 <PublicServer> *** Flash@3JI0 has joined company #1 04:33:42 *** Xaroth_ has joined #openttdcoop 04:33:47 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v Xaroth_ 04:33:53 <PublicServer> *** Flash@3JI0 has joined spectators 04:40:21 *** Xaroth has quit IRC 04:50:42 *** mixrin has joined #openttdcoop 04:50:47 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v mixrin 05:16:13 *** mixrin has quit IRC 05:19:09 *** mixrin has joined #openttdcoop 05:19:14 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v mixrin 05:23:27 *** Progman has joined #openttdcoop 05:23:32 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v Progman 05:25:33 <PublicServer> *** Flash@3JI0 has left the game (connection lost) 05:33:21 *** Flash3JI0 has quit IRC 05:53:18 *** Polygon has joined #openttdcoop 05:53:24 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v Polygon 05:54:56 *** Xaroth has joined #openttdcoop 05:55:01 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v Xaroth 06:01:36 *** Xaroth_ has quit IRC 06:03:57 *** lordaro has joined #openttdcoop 06:04:02 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v lordaro 06:04:31 <lordaro> !password 06:04:31 <PublicServer> lordaro: marted 06:04:42 <PublicServer> *** Lord Aro joined the game 06:06:01 <PublicServer> *** Lord Aro has left the game (leaving) 06:10:03 *** Xaroth_ has joined #openttdcoop 06:10:08 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v Xaroth_ 06:16:34 *** Xaroth has quit IRC 06:31:21 *** Polygon has quit IRC 06:32:51 *** lordaro has quit IRC 06:46:03 *** ^Spike^ has joined #openttdcoop 06:46:03 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o ^Spike^ 06:46:18 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v ^Spike^ 07:09:46 *** Xaroth has joined #openttdcoop 07:09:51 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v Xaroth 07:15:26 *** Myster has joined #openttdcoop 07:15:31 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v Myster 07:15:31 <Myster> !password 07:15:31 <PublicServer> Myster: vetoed 07:16:59 *** Xaroth_ has quit IRC 07:19:58 <Myster> !password 07:19:58 <PublicServer> Myster: bovine 07:20:34 <PublicServer> *** Myster joined the game 07:27:01 *** Fuco has joined #openttdcoop 07:27:06 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v Fuco 07:30:42 *** Xaroth_ has joined #openttdcoop 07:30:47 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v Xaroth_ 07:36:53 <PublicServer> *** Myster has left the game (leaving) 07:37:01 *** Myster has quit IRC 07:37:54 *** Xaroth has quit IRC 07:51:46 *** Xaroth has joined #openttdcoop 07:51:51 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v Xaroth 07:58:59 *** Xaroth_ has quit IRC 08:00:59 *** Xaroth_ has joined #openttdcoop 08:01:04 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v Xaroth_ 08:08:07 *** Xaroth has quit IRC 08:49:03 *** Xaroth has joined #openttdcoop 08:49:08 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v Xaroth 08:56:07 *** Xaroth_ has quit IRC 08:57:59 *** Xaroth_ has joined #openttdcoop 08:58:04 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v Xaroth_ 09:05:07 *** Xaroth has quit IRC 09:08:34 *** jdread has joined #openttdcoop 09:08:39 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v jdread 09:08:48 <jdread> !password 09:08:49 <PublicServer> jdread: indoor 09:09:10 <PublicServer> *** jdread joined the game 09:10:20 <PublicServer> *** jdread has left the game (leaving) 09:15:32 *** Chris_Booth has joined #openttdcoop 09:15:44 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v Chris_Booth 09:17:19 *** jdread has quit IRC 09:41:40 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop 09:41:40 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o ODM 09:41:45 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v ODM 10:11:56 *** Xaroth_ has quit IRC 10:44:15 *** themroc- has joined #openttdcoop 10:44:20 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v themroc- 10:55:33 <Chris_Booth> !password 10:55:33 <PublicServer> Chris_Booth: coater 10:55:46 <PublicServer> *** Chris Booth joined the game 10:56:36 <PublicServer> *** Chris Booth has left the game (leaving) 11:02:01 *** KenjiE20 has joined #openttdcoop 11:02:01 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o KenjiE20 11:02:06 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v KenjiE20 11:12:14 *** R0b0t1 has quit IRC 11:25:18 <FiCE> !password 11:25:18 <PublicServer> FiCE: sheath 11:27:02 <PublicServer> *** FiCE joined the game 11:31:20 <Chris_Booth> People dont read plans anymore do they? 11:31:27 <Chris_Booth> my plan wont realy fit in the map 11:32:29 <PublicServer> *** Chris Booth has left the game (connection lost) 11:32:50 <Ammler> Chris_Booth: if you don't like your own plan, why did you make it? 11:32:56 <PublicServer> <FiCE> lol 11:33:12 <Chris_Booth> i love my plan 11:33:18 <Chris_Booth> but i dont think it will work 11:33:53 <Ammler> I should join just to vote for your plan ;-) 11:34:11 <Chris_Booth> wont make any difference it has allready won 11:34:22 <Chris_Booth> it has 6 or 7 vote to 0 11:34:25 <Chris_Booth> for everyone else 11:50:54 *** mixrin_ has joined #openttdcoop 11:50:59 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v mixrin_ 11:58:26 <De_Ghosty> !dl win32 11:58:26 <PublicServer> De_Ghosty: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r17687/openttd-trunk-r17687-windows-win32.zip 11:59:58 <De_Ghosty> !password 11:59:58 <PublicServer> De_Ghosty: pathos 12:00:31 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (enough players) 12:00:33 <PublicServer> *** De_Ghost joined the game 12:03:23 <PublicServer> *** De_Ghost has left the game (leaving) 12:03:23 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (not enough players) 12:32:34 <Seppel> !password 12:32:35 <PublicServer> Seppel: gloved 12:32:39 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (enough players) 12:32:40 <PublicServer> *** Sepp joined the game 12:35:02 *** KenjiE20 is now known as Guest271 12:35:05 *** KenjiE20 has joined #openttdcoop 12:35:05 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o KenjiE20 12:35:10 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v KenjiE20 12:36:17 <PublicServer> *** Sepp has left the game (leaving) 12:36:17 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (not enough players) 12:36:59 *** Guest271 has quit IRC 12:44:07 *** dr_gonzo has joined #openttdcoop 12:44:12 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v dr_gonzo 12:51:53 *** jonde has joined #openttdcoop 12:51:58 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v jonde 12:52:41 <jonde> !password 12:52:41 <PublicServer> jonde: yowled 12:52:56 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (enough players) 12:52:56 <PublicServer> *** jondisti joined the game 12:54:51 <PublicServer> *** jondisti has left the game (leaving) 12:54:52 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (not enough players) 12:55:13 *** Keiya has joined #openttdcoop 12:55:18 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v Keiya 12:58:51 *** themroc- has quit IRC 13:01:18 *** Flash3JI0 has joined #openttdcoop 13:01:24 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v Flash3JI0 13:01:44 <Flash3JI0> !password 13:01:44 <PublicServer> Flash3JI0: yowled 13:01:51 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (enough players) 13:01:52 <PublicServer> *** Flash@3JI0 joined the game 13:03:29 *** Wurzel49 has joined #openttdcoop 13:03:34 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v Wurzel49 13:10:05 *** Keiya_ has joined #openttdcoop 13:10:10 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v Keiya_ 13:10:30 *** Keiya has quit IRC 13:17:29 *** Keiya_ is now known as Keiya 13:18:04 *** KenjiE20 has quit IRC 13:18:25 <Keiya> @quickstart 13:18:27 <Webster> Quickstart - #openttdcoop Wiki - http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/Quickstart 13:25:42 <Keiya> !password 13:25:42 <PublicServer> Keiya: gunned 13:25:54 <PublicServer> *** Keiya joined the game 13:25:58 <Keiya> There we go. 13:26:20 <Keiya> Earlier it was complaining about grf missmatch - last time I was here the download thing was just AIs >_> 13:29:51 <PublicServer> <Keiya> Wow, road-only plans. Those would be damn slow, with this size mao 13:29:56 <PublicServer> <Keiya> *map. 13:30:19 <Flash3JI0> look at the voting board 13:30:20 *** jdread has joined #openttdcoop 13:30:25 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v jdread 13:30:42 <jdread> !players 13:30:43 <PublicServer> jdread: Client 188 (Orange) is FiCE, in company 1 (Condinghead Transport) 13:30:44 <PublicServer> jdread: Client 198 (Orange) is Flash@3JI0, in company 1 (Condinghead Transport) 13:30:44 <PublicServer> jdread: Client 202 (Orange) is Keiya, in company 1 (Condinghead Transport) 13:30:48 <jdread> !password 13:30:48 <PublicServer> jdread: gunned 13:31:08 <PublicServer> *** jdread joined the game 13:31:10 <PublicServer> <jdread> hi 13:31:16 <PublicServer> <Keiya> Yeah, the one that was picked is an RV sideline plan, right? 13:33:07 <Mark> 'lo 13:33:14 <PublicServer> <jdread> hi mark 13:33:44 <Mark> booth won? 13:33:54 <PublicServer> <jdread> yea 13:33:55 <PublicServer> <Keiya> Complex crossings aren't pointless, they're fun! :< 13:34:06 <Flash3JI0> Mark, why do you think this plan is stupid? 13:34:24 <Mark> have you ever seen a 4-way with LLLL_RRRR mainlines and TL 8? 13:34:34 <Flash3JI0> No 13:34:39 <Mark> i figured 13:34:43 <Mark> 6 of those wont fit on the map 13:34:45 <PublicServer> <jdread> its huge 13:35:03 <Mark> and also they're pretty complicated 13:35:24 <Mark> which will be a problem with the loads of new people we have atm 13:36:07 <Flash3JI0> stop 13:36:15 <Flash3JI0> what means TL? 13:36:23 <Flash3JI0> :) 13:36:29 <Mark> are you serious? 13:36:41 <Flash3JI0> yes 13:36:43 <Keiya> Case in point. >_> 13:36:45 <Mark> ... 13:36:53 <Keiya> TL is train length - how many tiles long a train is. 13:37:18 <Flash3JI0> understood 13:37:27 *** Thraxian|Work has joined #openttdcoop 13:37:27 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Thraxian|Work 13:37:32 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v Thraxian|Work 13:37:47 <Mark> !password 13:37:47 <PublicServer> Mark: wrying 13:37:52 <PublicServer> *** Thraxian|Work joined the game 13:37:59 <PublicServer> *** Mark joined the game 13:38:37 <PublicServer> <Flash@3JI0> TL in chris plan is 7 13:39:46 <PublicServer> <Mark> cant say there's any proper alternative either 13:40:11 <PublicServer> <Mark> all right, build it 13:40:14 <PublicServer> *** Mark has joined spectators 13:40:17 <Mark> @stage Building 13:40:17 *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG #161 (r17687) | STAGE: Building | www.openttdcoop.org | Use !help for IRC-commands | Screenshots: http://mz.openttdcoop.org/img/ | Coopetition ladder: http://mz.openttdcoop.org/ladder | IS2/FIRS game at #openttdcoop.dev | New players, use @quickstart" 13:40:21 <Mark> Chris_Booth: get in here 13:40:23 <PublicServer> <Keiya> There's always the Dwarf Fortress mantra :P 13:40:54 <hylje> losing is fun 13:41:19 <PublicServer> <Keiya> Yep :P 13:43:29 <PublicServer> <Keiya> Man, turning this map into two islands is excessively tempting, but I WILL BE STRONG 13:43:33 <PublicServer> <Keiya> :P 13:47:29 <PublicServer> *** jdread has joined spectators 13:50:20 <PublicServer> *** Thraxian|Work has joined company #1 13:50:22 <PublicServer> <Keiya> ... 13:50:29 <PublicServer> <Keiya> There's a name for that. Cheating 13:50:43 <PublicServer> <Keiya> Why not just use console commands to give us infinate money at that point? >_> 13:50:52 <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> so, do we need trains enabled for this map? 13:51:28 <PublicServer> <Keiya> Yeah, the current plan uses 'em as backbone 13:52:13 <PublicServer> <Keiya> Though an LLL_5_RRR fourway is gonna be.... interesting... to build 13:52:25 <Thraxian|Work> and very congested.... 13:52:27 <PublicServer> <Keiya> SIX of them. 13:52:28 <Thraxian|Work> !trains 100 13:52:29 <PublicServer> *** Thraxian|Work has set max_trains to 100 13:52:45 <PublicServer> <Keiya> No, wait, five 13:52:55 <Thraxian|Work> only 2 are LLL_RRR 13:52:57 <PublicServer> <Keiya> Still... 13:53:00 <Thraxian|Work> the other 3 are only LL_RR 13:53:08 <Thraxian|Work> er... 13:53:15 <Thraxian|Work> 3 are LLL_RRR (BBH02-04) 13:53:19 *** green-devil has joined #openttdcoop 13:53:19 <Thraxian|Work> the end two are only LL_RR 13:53:23 *** green-devil has left #openttdcoop 13:53:34 <Thraxian|Work> and even then, only 1-2 spokes of each of those are LLL 13:53:44 <PublicServer> <Keiya> One is LLL_RRR, two split/merge inside >_> 13:54:14 <PublicServer> <Keiya> but yeah 13:57:55 <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> wow - look at the BBH sign spacing 13:58:04 <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> does that seem right? 13:58:18 <PublicServer> <Keiya> It seems ... bunched up a bit 13:58:33 <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> according to map - the ends are twice as long as the middles 13:58:38 <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> or something like that 13:58:42 <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> should they be spaced more evenly? 13:59:17 <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> dividing each half into 3 equal sections? 14:01:26 <PublicServer> <Mark> you should stretch the plan to have the same ratio as the map 14:01:41 <PublicServer> <Mark> 1:16 14:01:57 <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> re-"mark"-ed :) 14:02:18 <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> if we use 5 BBHs, there about 340 tiles between each one 14:03:23 <PublicServer> <Keiya> Actuaally, looc at the plan... 14:03:31 <PublicServer> <Keiya> The last two there /are/ longer. 14:03:41 <PublicServer> <Keiya> :/ 14:03:46 <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> yeah - that's why I signed them the way I did the first time 14:03:59 <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> but I figured it was because of the corner regions drops 14:04:02 <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> they needed a straight road 14:04:12 <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> so they were made larger, but in fact, should be same size as others 14:04:37 <PublicServer> <Keiya> Mmm, maybe. 14:06:09 <PublicServer> *** Mark has left the game (leaving) 14:08:43 <jonde> !password 14:08:44 <PublicServer> jonde: cyclic 14:08:50 <PublicServer> *** jondisti joined the game 14:09:28 <PublicServer> <Keiya> I can't really do anything until the backbone's in :/ 14:09:39 <PublicServer> <Keiya> I dunno how to build all that stuff :P 14:16:55 <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> backbone's in 14:16:57 <PublicServer> <Keiya> ROAD ONLY... right on top of a rail line :3 14:19:26 <PublicServer> <Keiya> NOOOO! We have to destroy Budkin Lake :< 14:19:34 <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> nope 14:19:39 <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> we can bridge it, or go around it 14:19:46 <PublicServer> <Keiya> Heh, true. 14:19:47 <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> the backbone is more of a guideline :) 14:20:20 <PublicServer> <Keiya> Or we can sealevel-land-hack it. (that still works, right?) 14:20:41 <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> not sure what the tform rule is for this plan 14:20:52 <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> probably low, considering it's already a flat map 14:21:10 <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> but it would surprise me if a land bridge was built 14:21:13 <PublicServer> <Keiya> Pro'lly. 14:21:18 <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> er...wouldn't :( 14:21:22 <PublicServer> <Keiya> Heh. 14:21:34 <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> just like what was done near BBH3 14:22:23 <PublicServer> <Keiya> BBH3's probably gonna get filled at some point during hub-construction anyway >_> 14:22:32 <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> true 14:26:54 <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> hehe - planes are riding along our tracks 14:29:00 <Mark> !password 14:29:00 <PublicServer> Mark: typhus 14:29:09 <PublicServer> *** Mark joined the game 14:31:25 <PublicServer> *** jondisti has joined spectators 14:34:50 <PublicServer> <Mark> mind if i build BBH05 at !BBH05? 14:35:03 <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> that should be fine 14:35:09 <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> my signs are just estimations 14:35:09 *** valhallasw has joined #openttdcoop 14:35:14 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v valhallasw 14:36:23 <PublicServer> *** Keiya has left the game (leaving) 14:37:16 <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> I'm gonna play at BBH01 14:37:35 <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> maybe 14:40:02 <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> what's max 2 tunnel gap for TL7? 14:40:19 <PublicServer> <Mark> 12? 14:40:29 <Mark> @tunnels 7 12 14:40:37 <Thraxian|Work> @tunnel 14:40:37 <Webster> (depreciated try !tunnels) Usage of tunnels command: tunnels <TrainLength> <TunnelLength> 14:40:41 <Thraxian|Work> !tunnels 14:40:41 <PublicServer> Thraxian|Work: !tunnels <trainlength> <gap>: Returns amount of tunnels/bridges needed. Formula: (<gap>+<trainlength>-2)/(<trainlength>+2) 14:40:46 <Thraxian|Work> !tunnels 7 12 14:40:47 <PublicServer> Thraxian|Work: You need 2 tunnels/bridges for trainlength 7 and gap 12. 14:40:48 *** Jens__ has joined #openttdcoop 14:40:50 <Thraxian|Work> !tunnels 7 13 14:40:50 <PublicServer> Thraxian|Work: You need 2 tunnels/bridges for trainlength 7 and gap 13. 14:40:53 <Thraxian|Work> !tunnels 7 14 14:40:53 <PublicServer> Thraxian|Work: You need 3 tunnels/bridges for trainlength 7 and gap 14. 14:40:53 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v Jens__ 14:41:05 <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> looks like 13, actually 14:41:44 <Jens__> !password 14:41:45 <PublicServer> Jens__: heeded 14:41:55 <PublicServer> <Mark> i doubt this is even going to fit 14:42:05 <PublicServer> <Mark> with balancing it surely wont 14:43:15 *** zachanima has joined #openttdcoop 14:43:20 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v zachanima 14:43:36 <PublicServer> *** Jens joined the game 14:45:37 <PublicServer> <Mark> Thraxian|Work: dont forget you need a straight-through line 14:45:38 <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> thoughts on BBH01 so far? 14:45:42 <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> tunneled 14:45:47 <PublicServer> <Mark> that^ :P 14:45:51 <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> oh that 14:45:54 <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> from RV1 to oil 14:45:57 <PublicServer> <Mark> yes 14:45:58 <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> that's no problem 14:46:05 <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> if I mirror this design for RR 14:46:10 <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> there'll be room in the middle 14:46:48 <PublicServer> <Mark> you're going to make it balanced? 14:50:53 *** Keiya has quit IRC 15:02:08 <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> I think LR is sufficient for crossing ML, right? 15:02:33 <Mark> you never know 15:02:39 <Mark> you might spawn a lot of oil rigs there 15:05:46 <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> still need to complete the merges 15:05:55 <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> but I like the design so far :) 15:15:01 <PublicServer> *** FiCE has joined spectators 15:19:11 <PublicServer> *** jdread has left the game (connection lost) 15:21:57 *** jdread has quit IRC 15:22:44 <PublicServer> *** Thraxian|Work has joined spectators 15:27:45 <PublicServer> *** Flash@3JI0 has joined spectators 15:27:46 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (not enough players) 15:38:10 *** themroc- has joined #openttdcoop 15:38:15 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v themroc- 15:46:14 <PublicServer> *** Spike joined the game 15:48:02 <PublicServer> *** Thraxian|Work has left the game (leaving) 15:48:41 <PublicServer> *** Spike has joined company #1 15:48:42 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (enough players) 15:48:50 <PublicServer> *** Spike has joined spectators 15:48:51 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (not enough players) 15:48:55 *** Venxir has joined #openttdcoop 15:48:55 <^Spike^> @traincl 265 15:48:56 <Webster> CL 13 required for rail at speed 265km/h (or TL if it's shorter) 15:49:00 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v Venxir 15:58:26 *** themroc- has quit IRC 15:58:39 *** green-devil has joined #openttdcoop 15:58:44 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v green-devil 15:58:59 *** green-devil has left #openttdcoop 16:07:04 <Chris_Booth> morning 16:07:17 <Chris_Booth> you started without me? 16:07:34 <Chris_Booth> !password 16:07:35 <PublicServer> Chris_Booth: trudge 16:07:48 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (enough players) 16:07:48 <PublicServer> *** Chris Booth joined the game 16:10:02 <PublicServer> *** jondisti has left the game (leaving) 16:10:20 <Razaekel> !password 16:10:20 <PublicServer> Razaekel: trudge 16:11:18 <PublicServer> *** Chris Booth has left the game (leaving) 16:11:18 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (not enough players) 16:11:24 <Razaekel> !password 16:11:25 <PublicServer> Razaekel: trudge 16:11:28 *** jdread has joined #openttdcoop 16:11:31 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (enough players) 16:11:32 <PublicServer> *** Razaekel joined the game 16:11:33 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v jdread 16:11:38 <jdread> !password 16:11:39 <PublicServer> jdread: trudge 16:12:06 <PublicServer> *** jdread has left the game (connection lost) 16:12:24 <PublicServer> *** jdread joined the game 16:16:40 <PublicServer> *** jdread has left the game (connection lost) 16:17:10 *** jdread has quit IRC 16:20:32 <jonde> !password 16:20:32 <PublicServer> jonde: glands 16:20:46 <PublicServer> *** jondisti joined the game 16:22:41 <PublicServer> *** jondisti has left the game (leaving) 16:37:19 <PublicServer> *** Razaekel has left the game (leaving) 16:37:19 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (not enough players) 16:40:10 <PublicServer> *** Mark has joined spectators 16:50:48 <PublicServer> *** Spike has left the game (leaving) 17:01:24 *** HDIEagle has joined #openttdcoop 17:01:30 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v HDIEagle 17:15:06 *** Xaroth has joined #openttdcoop 17:15:11 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v Xaroth 17:16:38 <HDIEagle> !password 17:16:38 <PublicServer> HDIEagle: babier 17:17:16 <PublicServer> *** HD1Eagle joined the game 17:17:54 <HDIEagle> PublicServer is on the brink of insulting, but always seemingly nonchalant enough to pass as a non-sentient being. 17:17:59 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (enough players) 17:18:00 <PublicServer> *** tneo joined the game 17:18:02 <PublicServer> <tneo> hello 17:18:02 *** Mark has quit IRC 17:18:08 <PublicServer> *** Mark has left the game (connection lost) 17:18:09 <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> hello tneo 17:19:08 <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> yay democracy! 17:19:35 <HDIEagle> !seen Chris_Booth 17:19:45 <HDIEagle> !help 17:19:45 <PublicServer> HDIEagle: http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/IRC_Commands 17:19:59 <HDIEagle> @seen Chris_Booth 17:19:59 <Webster> HDIEagle: Chris_Booth was last seen in #openttdcoop 1 hour, 12 minutes, and 24 seconds ago: <Chris_Booth> !password 17:20:05 <HDIEagle> :shakefist: 17:20:07 *** Xaroth_ has joined #openttdcoop 17:20:12 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v Xaroth_ 17:20:18 *** Mark has joined #openttdcoop 17:20:20 <HDIEagle> 'lo x-man 17:20:23 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v Mark 17:21:13 <Mark> hello 17:21:19 <PublicServer> <tneo> hd 17:21:20 <PublicServer> <tneo> hi 17:21:21 <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> hail mark 17:22:04 <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> what are we looking at for expansibility in bbh? 17:22:24 *** lordaro has joined #openttdcoop 17:22:29 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v lordaro 17:22:34 <lordaro> !password 17:22:34 <PublicServer> lordaro: harass 17:22:52 <PublicServer> *** Lord Aro joined the game 17:23:09 <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> is the no tf rule in effect? 17:23:25 <Mark> nope 17:23:36 <Mark> you should be able to do without any on this map though 17:23:56 <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> bbh01 to station 1 - go around or over? 17:26:41 *** Xaroth has quit IRC 17:28:02 <PublicServer> <Lord Aro> i put tunnels in under munfingwell airport ok? 17:28:27 <Mark> rather move the airport 17:28:29 <Mark> !info 17:28:29 <PublicServer> Mark: #:1(Orange) Company Name: 'Condinghead Transport' Year Founded: 1930 Money: 13947028 Loan: 0 Value: 14058067 (T:0, R:0, P:5, S:0) unprotected 17:28:46 <Mark> not quite enough money to kill the MM 17:28:49 <PublicServer> <Lord Aro> ok will do 17:29:00 <PublicServer> <Lord Aro> MM? 17:30:33 <PublicServer> <Lord Aro> ok now? 17:30:36 <PublicServer> *** Lord Aro has left the game (leaving) 17:35:07 <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> eoooehwho 17:35:12 <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> bbh02 and 3 will be interesting 17:36:38 <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> so many antennae 17:40:10 <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> yo, can i do bbh02 a bit north - straddling the lake? 17:42:21 <Mark> if no-one else claimed it, sure you can 17:42:31 <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> i see no signs :3 17:46:15 <PublicServer> *** SmatZ joined the game 17:46:15 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> hello 17:46:19 <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> lo smatz 17:46:25 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> hello HD1Eagle 17:47:13 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> LL RR looks far from enough 17:47:41 <PublicServer> *** SmatZ has left the game (leaving) 17:50:16 <Mark> IMO the ML is wide at the wrong places 17:51:50 <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> i did this all wrong :3 17:56:46 <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> ow, that hurt 17:56:57 <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> just shot myself in the foot 17:59:54 *** dr_gonzo has quit IRC 18:03:20 <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> this be messy, but organic :3 18:04:58 *** Mitcian has joined #openttdcoop 18:05:03 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v Mitcian 18:08:26 *** ziza has joined #openttdcoop 18:08:32 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v ziza 18:08:54 <ziza> !password 18:08:54 <PublicServer> ziza: bailed 18:10:08 <PublicServer> *** ZiZa joined the game 18:17:16 *** Mitcian has quit IRC 18:18:54 <PublicServer> *** ZiZa has left the game (leaving) 18:19:01 *** ziza has quit IRC 18:23:38 <PublicServer> *** HD1Eagle has left the game (connection lost) 18:23:38 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (not enough players) 18:23:40 *** De_Ghosty has quit IRC 18:23:59 <HDIEagle> !password 18:23:59 <PublicServer> HDIEagle: molest 18:24:12 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (enough players) 18:24:13 <PublicServer> *** HD1Eagle joined the game 18:31:28 <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> scratch. 18:34:04 <PublicServer> *** Spike joined the game 18:34:50 <PublicServer> *** Spike has joined company #1 18:40:15 <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> how do i merge 3 > 2? 18:40:38 <PublicServer> <Spike> eh... 18:40:47 <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> bbh02 18:40:52 <PublicServer> <Spike> thinking.. :) 18:40:57 <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> !hi 18:42:16 <PublicServer> <Spike> maybe small sml idea like that? 18:42:40 <PublicServer> <Spike> only with the right length prios :) 18:43:16 <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> aight 18:43:25 <PublicServer> <Spike> hope it helps :) 18:48:54 <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> cripes 18:50:25 <PublicServer> <Spike> i get a feeling that roro stations will be possible on the N and S ends but not at the bbh ends.. unless big loops... :/ 18:50:59 <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> LLL_RRR to LL_RR bbhs...how big should they be 18:51:34 <PublicServer> <Spike> just finish them.. we'll see where we end :) 18:52:36 *** Polygon has joined #openttdcoop 18:52:41 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v Polygon 18:53:36 <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> this is hooge 19:01:07 <PublicServer> <Spike> tneo: what TL you used? 19:04:00 <PublicServer> *** tneo has joined spectators 19:04:05 <PublicServer> *** tneo has left the game (leaving) 19:04:20 <PublicServer> *** Spike has left the game (leaving) 19:04:21 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (not enough players) 19:11:13 <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> nice double cross tneo 19:11:15 <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> :P 19:16:24 <PublicServer> *** HD1Eagle has left the game (leaving) 19:17:26 *** Wurzel49 has quit IRC 19:22:32 *** KenjiE20 has joined #openttdcoop 19:22:32 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o KenjiE20 19:22:37 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v KenjiE20 19:24:20 *** HDIEagle has quit IRC 19:25:20 <PublicServer> *** Jens has left the game (leaving) 19:29:37 *** PeterT has joined #openttdcoop 19:29:42 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v PeterT 19:29:52 <PeterT> !password 19:29:52 <PublicServer> PeterT: smites 19:31:26 <PublicServer> *** Peter joined the game 19:32:05 <Chris_Booth> evening all 19:32:23 <PublicServer> <Peter> hi Chris Booth 19:32:35 <PublicServer> <Peter> wth? why aren't we using roads? 19:32:47 <Chris_Booth> dont aks me 19:32:52 <Chris_Booth> the plan has roads in it 19:33:06 <PublicServer> <Peter> Why didn't we do roads only? 19:33:21 <Chris_Booth> ooh as i wanted a mixed RV and Train game 19:33:26 <Chris_Booth> first ever 19:34:05 <Chris_Booth> !password 19:34:05 <PublicServer> Chris_Booth: pathos 19:34:12 <PublicServer> *** Peter has left the game (leaving) 19:34:18 <PublicServer> *** Chris Booth joined the game 19:34:48 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> no one playing? 19:39:19 <PeterT> no 19:39:35 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> i know the plan sucks but you guys voted for it 19:39:56 <PeterT> I voted for kenji's originally 19:40:15 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> not my fault 19:40:23 <PeterT> I think I'm just going to stay out of this PSG 19:40:27 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> as i said last night my plan was only a joke 19:40:45 *** Venxir has quit IRC 19:42:46 <Chris_Booth> lol microsoft are sending me my free version of windwos 7 by airmail from (63114) Saint Louis to plymouth uk lol 19:42:56 <PeterT> haha 19:43:26 *** Xaroth_ is now known as Xaroth 19:43:34 <Chris_Booth> that like right in the middle of america 19:44:09 <PeterT> yes 19:44:20 <PeterT> well, bill gates is rich enough :) 19:44:49 <Chris_Booth> i bet it cost them more to send that to me via DHL airmail than i would cost me to get a version from PC World or something 19:44:55 <PublicServer> *** Chris Booth has left the game (leaving) 20:03:53 *** mixrin has quit IRC 20:04:06 *** zachanima has quit IRC 20:04:51 *** PeterT has quit IRC 20:05:05 *** PeterT has joined #openttdcoop 20:05:10 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v PeterT 20:05:25 *** jonde has quit IRC 20:09:51 *** mixrin_ has quit IRC 20:09:56 *** PeteT has joined #openttdcoop 20:10:01 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v PeteT 20:10:19 *** PeteT has quit IRC 20:10:29 *** PeteT has joined #openttdcoop 20:10:34 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v PeteT 20:10:35 *** mixrin has joined #openttdcoop 20:10:36 *** Xaroth_ has joined #openttdcoop 20:10:40 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v mixrin 20:10:45 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v Xaroth_ 20:13:57 *** Xaroth has quit IRC 20:14:10 *** themroc- has joined #openttdcoop 20:14:13 *** AlexanderB has joined #openttdcoop 20:14:15 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v themroc- 20:14:20 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v AlexanderB 20:14:26 <AlexanderB> hello :) 20:14:31 <Mark> hello 20:14:36 <PeteT> hi AlexanderB 20:14:54 <AlexanderB> new here :D 20:15:02 <Mark> welcome 20:15:06 <AlexanderB> thnx 20:15:10 <PeteT> didn't you play on watcher's servers? 20:15:16 <AlexanderB> oh, you have a good memory 20:15:19 <AlexanderB> yes, that is me :) 20:15:52 <PeteT> we played together yesterday :-P 20:16:18 <Mark> lol. 20:16:38 <AlexanderB> :) 20:16:39 <Mark> off to bed, goodnight 20:16:44 <AlexanderB> goodnight 20:16:51 <PeteT> night 20:17:21 *** PeterT has quit IRC 20:17:31 *** PeteT is now known as PeterT 20:19:15 *** PeterT has quit IRC 20:19:32 <PublicServer> *** Thraxian|Work joined the game 20:20:31 *** Flash3JI0 has quit IRC 20:20:36 <PublicServer> *** Flash@3JI0 has left the game (leaving) 20:21:00 *** zachanima has joined #openttdcoop 20:21:05 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v zachanima 20:21:41 <PublicServer> *** Thraxian|Work has left the game (leaving) 20:22:58 *** R0b0t1 has joined #openttdcoop 20:23:03 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v R0b0t1 20:26:47 <AlexanderB> ~password 20:26:50 <AlexanderB> !password 20:26:51 <PublicServer> AlexanderB: stormy 20:27:42 <AlexanderB> oh help :/ what version is the server running? 20:27:55 <Thraxian|Work> !version 20:27:55 <PublicServer> Thraxian|Work: Autopilot AP+ 3.0 Beta (r699M) 20:28:01 <Thraxian|Work> !revision 20:28:02 <PublicServer> Thraxian|Work: Game version is r17687 20:28:20 <KenjiE20> I suggest reading all of the topic :) 20:28:28 <Thraxian|Work> !help 20:28:28 <PublicServer> Thraxian|Work: http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/IRC_Commands 20:30:55 <AlexanderB> !download 20:30:55 <PublicServer> AlexanderB: !download autostart|autottd|autoupdate|lin|lin64|osx|win32|win64|win9x 20:31:15 <lordaro> !password 20:31:16 <PublicServer> lordaro: stormy 20:31:25 <AlexanderB> !download win64 20:31:25 <PublicServer> AlexanderB: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r17687/openttd-trunk-r17687-windows-win64.zip 20:32:01 *** Cif has joined #openttdcoop 20:32:06 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v Cif 20:32:07 <PublicServer> *** Lord Aro joined the game 20:32:37 *** Razaekel has quit IRC 20:33:22 <Cif> @quickstart 20:33:24 <Webster> Quickstart - #openttdcoop Wiki - http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/Quickstart 20:34:49 <AlexanderB> do i really *need* the newgrf's? 20:35:12 <AlexanderB> i cant fine some of them so far.. 20:35:16 <AlexanderB> find* 20:35:24 <KenjiE20> Try reading what cif's reading 20:37:08 <AlexanderB> found it, grfpack :) 20:38:52 *** lordaro has quit IRC 20:38:54 <PublicServer> *** Lord Aro has left the game (leaving) 20:42:07 <AlexanderB> what the.. :S 20:42:45 <AlexanderB> --> unzip files to folder, folder created, folder visible in filzip.. folder nowhere to be found, not invisible, nothing, gone 20:44:40 *** Thraxian|Work has left #openttdcoop 20:46:00 <AlexanderB> ok.. whatever, unzip to folder on desktop works.. must be windows safety features at work :P 20:46:02 <AlexanderB> anyway.. 20:46:06 <AlexanderB> got it :) 20:46:46 <AlexanderB> hm.. newgrf mismatch.. 20:46:47 <AlexanderB> :/ 20:51:58 *** Fuco has quit IRC 20:52:10 *** Fuco has joined #openttdcoop 20:52:14 <AlexanderB> have to add them 1 by 1.. gah 20:52:15 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v Fuco 21:13:12 <Jens__> !password 21:13:12 <PublicServer> Jens__: waives 21:13:27 <PublicServer> *** Jens joined the game 21:23:11 <AlexanderB> *waves back* 21:23:19 <AlexanderB> still down 9 newgrfs 21:23:27 <AlexanderB> browsing the download directory now.. 21:24:09 <AlexanderB> ottd should have a download from server feature, added to the download from openttd.org server thing.. 21:24:14 <AlexanderB> would make life 500% easier 21:24:26 *** Progman has quit IRC 21:24:58 <Jens__> why not just download the grf pack? 21:25:10 <AlexanderB> i did, doesnt work (missing half of what i need, apparently 21:25:26 <AlexanderB> and i need to manually add all of the grfs one by one.. 21:25:47 <Jens__> hmm, i downloaded the pack and updated the rest ingame, worked like a charm 21:26:02 <AlexanderB> :/ doesnt work for me, its still not finding 9 grf's 21:26:31 <planetmaker> AlexanderB: you don't _add_ newgrfs when you join a server 21:26:50 <planetmaker> You just unzip the #openttdcoop newgrf pack into your OpenTTD data folder 21:26:53 <AlexanderB> ...erm.. 21:26:54 <AlexanderB> i did 21:26:58 <AlexanderB> didnt work 21:27:10 <planetmaker> and then use the content download form the join screen and get there the remaining ones 21:27:24 <planetmaker> which ones do you miss? 21:28:46 <AlexanderB> city stations, container freight station and harbour, dutch station set, industrial stations set v0.98, modern suburban stations, newstations v0.4xxx, platforms, us stations, newships 21:29:11 <planetmaker> that's from the grfpack. And they're all in there 21:29:30 <AlexanderB> ... then its probably user error 21:29:33 <AlexanderB> i'll try again 21:29:37 <planetmaker> where did you unzip the whole grfpack to? 21:29:47 <AlexanderB> to /data 21:29:59 <planetmaker> It needs to be in ~/.openttd/data 21:30:04 <planetmaker> (on linux) 21:30:08 <AlexanderB> windows 21:30:23 <planetmaker> or c:\User files\OpenTTD\data 21:30:27 <AlexanderB> c:\program files\Openttd_beta\Data 21:30:28 <AlexanderB> yeah 21:30:44 <planetmaker> err... ? 21:30:47 <planetmaker> no 21:30:49 <planetmaker> wrong 21:31:05 <planetmaker> that's the data dir of ONE OpenTTD installation. 21:31:06 <AlexanderB> prog files is where i put my games, as per windows default 21:31:09 <planetmaker> Another won't find it there 21:31:22 <planetmaker> and you don't use the beta (of whatever) to join this server 21:31:26 <planetmaker> it's r17687 21:31:29 <AlexanderB> i know 21:31:32 <AlexanderB> thats what i got.. 21:31:44 <AlexanderB> but its not the 'stable' 7.3 version.. 21:31:45 <planetmaker> and that binary is in c:\program files\OpenTTD_beta ? 21:31:55 <AlexanderB> yup, thats where i put it 21:31:58 <planetmaker> no. Doesn't work 21:32:07 <AlexanderB> how and why not? 21:32:18 <planetmaker> because there's a dir called bin, right? 21:32:21 <Jens__> i got the same setup (well almost, directorys differ) 21:32:30 <AlexanderB> it defaulted to c:\program files\OpenTTD (where i keep my 7.3 stable version atm) 21:32:47 <planetmaker> AlexanderB: please read OpenTTD's readme, section 4 21:32:59 <planetmaker> it tells you where to put your newgrfs 21:33:09 <planetmaker> I'm talking about the global newgrf dir 21:33:11 *** Progman has joined #openttdcoop 21:33:18 <planetmaker> I don't know the exact windows paths 21:33:26 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v Progman 21:33:29 <planetmaker> but you obviously didn't put it into the right one ;-) 21:33:43 <^Spike^> prob my documents/openttd or something 21:33:55 *** Progman_ has joined #openttdcoop 21:33:57 <Jens__> did it create a new folder in the data dir or unpack directly in to it? 21:33:59 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v Progman_ 21:34:27 <AlexanderB> i checked, it made a new folder, so i moved all of the content to data 21:34:43 <Jens__> shouldnt done that 21:34:50 <AlexanderB> ..hm 21:34:51 <planetmaker> everything within the OpenTTD data dir is found. If in sub(sub)folders or not. You may keep the pack in its own sub folder 21:34:55 <planetmaker> it's recommended 21:35:01 <planetmaker> actually also the pack has a readme.. 21:35:07 <planetmaker> or do-not-readme :-P 21:35:24 <AlexanderB> back to step 1: 21:35:40 <AlexanderB> (deleted folder, re-downloaded r17687 21:35:46 <planetmaker> AlexanderB: what does OpenTTD readme tell you where to put newgrf? 21:37:15 <planetmaker> C:\Documents and Settings\<username>\My Documents\OpenT 21:37:17 <planetmaker> TD 21:37:22 <AlexanderB> ok.. 21:37:24 <planetmaker> there's a data dir inside that dir 21:37:28 <AlexanderB> (reading it now, lol) 21:37:34 <planetmaker> move the whole openttd grfpack there. 21:37:46 <AlexanderB> there was a data dir in %programs%\OpenTTD as well.. 21:37:50 <Jens__> it works if you put it in the install dir too 21:37:53 <planetmaker> yes. Those who can read are at a definitive advantage. indeed 21:37:58 <AlexanderB> and since i've played this game, thats always been where i put my stuff.. 21:38:06 <planetmaker> Jens__: but then only for THAT ONE installation 21:38:12 <AlexanderB> yup 21:38:26 <planetmaker> why have the pack n times on your HD, if you can keep it for all? 21:38:36 <AlexanderB> never played with more then.. 2 anyway, and exactly for the reason that i *didnt* want shared config and stuff 21:38:41 <Jens__> yes, but i have multiple installations with different grf's 21:38:45 <planetmaker> or the base graphics... 21:38:56 <planetmaker> Jens__: err...? You can use all grfs in all installs... 21:39:04 <AlexanderB> the whole 10 mb's of them? 21:39:07 <planetmaker> sure 21:39:14 <planetmaker> not in one game. 21:39:21 <Jens__> it's simpler to separate them 21:39:22 <planetmaker> but they may be all available 21:39:27 <planetmaker> Jens__: uh? 21:39:30 <planetmaker> what for? 21:39:43 <planetmaker> that's why you can keep sub dirs in the data dir 21:39:48 <AlexanderB> its simple enough to have all the game files in one directory per game, instead of smeared out over the harddrive 21:39:50 <AlexanderB> imo 21:40:02 <planetmaker> AlexanderB: IMO absolutely not 21:40:13 <AlexanderB> makes it easier to install, backup, delete 21:40:19 <planetmaker> I have the grfs in one place and I never worry about their whereabouts 21:40:25 <planetmaker> AlexanderB: no. 21:40:29 <planetmaker> on the contrary. 21:40:45 <planetmaker> I don't NEED to install grfs ever again, once I have them 21:40:55 <AlexanderB> how so? i can move the %progfiles%\openttd to a thumbdrive and its backupped 21:41:01 <AlexanderB> for you, you'd have to backup what.. 4 folders? 21:41:15 <planetmaker> AlexanderB: no. My OpenTTD folder 21:41:34 <planetmaker> and the one with the binary of my choice. 21:41:41 *** Progman has quit IRC 21:41:42 <AlexanderB> ... probably a windows versus linux thing.. 21:41:44 <planetmaker> but it's all on my laptop anyway 21:41:53 *** Progman_ is now known as Progman 21:41:58 <AlexanderB> well.. i have 4 computers, and regularly mess around with new installs and stuff 21:42:05 <planetmaker> Last time I copied my OTTD folder, I copied 5 GB :-P 21:42:15 <AlexanderB> its easy if i have one-folder-applications that dont need registry, 10 different folders outside of its own, etc.. 21:42:18 <planetmaker> AlexanderB: don't tell me about new installs 21:42:31 <AlexanderB> last time i copied my ottd.. it was 20 MB 21:42:41 <AlexanderB> but im not much of a collector of newgrfs 21:42:47 <planetmaker> AlexanderB: yes. And what's difficult with having one data folder used by each binary? 21:43:09 <AlexanderB> if its a 5 gb data folder, yes, usefull 21:43:33 <AlexanderB> if its a 19 mb folder in a 20 mb game.. then not so much 21:43:37 <planetmaker> well. However you do. Suit yourself. But learn to read documentation. 21:43:50 <planetmaker> AlexanderB: not data folder 21:44:28 <planetmaker> it's about 20 full-history source repositories, 100s of patches, about 10 newgrf-source repositories... and my newgrf collection, yes 21:44:41 <planetmaker> which is small compared to the rest. the pack and a bit bananas 21:45:00 <AlexanderB> ...yes 21:45:10 <AlexanderB> but large compared to someone playing the original graphics 21:45:38 <planetmaker> poor those 21:45:47 <planetmaker> it's actually 170MB 21:45:53 <AlexanderB> hm.. 21:46:07 <AlexanderB> well.. 21:46:09 <AlexanderB> *checks* 21:46:10 <AlexanderB> true 21:46:28 <planetmaker> ok. I told you now once where to put the pack. If you don't put it into the global dir - please don't bother us when we update the server again with this question 21:46:47 *** mixrin has quit IRC 21:46:53 <AlexanderB> i wont ;) 21:46:53 * planetmaker suddenly got into a bit bad mood 21:46:57 <AlexanderB> aww 21:47:28 <Jens__> it all come down to preferences in the end 21:47:28 * planetmaker better says good night for now. CU around 21:47:36 <AlexanderB> CU 21:51:09 <AlexanderB> heh.. 21:51:33 <AlexanderB> the only real mistake was that i moved the files from the seperate subfolder to the /data dir itsself 21:51:38 <AlexanderB> it works now 21:52:26 <Jens__> *thumbs up* 21:52:35 <AlexanderB> and thats a try-first-before-raeding-documentation-fault from my side.. its the default behaviour of my unzip program to stuff things in a folder with the name of the zip file.. 21:52:48 <AlexanderB> so i undid that, but that was, in this case, wrong 21:53:28 <Jens__> trial and error, thats how you learn :D 21:53:32 <AlexanderB> !password 21:53:32 <PublicServer> AlexanderB: shyest 21:53:42 <PublicServer> *** AlexanderB joined the game 21:53:43 <AlexanderB> :) 22:02:40 <Jens__> Guess its bedtime for me to. Got a day full of complex numbers and vectors tomorrow 22:03:27 <AlexanderB> hehe, ok, good luck tomorrow 22:04:32 <Chris_Booth> hello all 22:05:18 <PublicServer> <AlexanderB> hey :) 22:05:36 <AlexanderB> or hey :) 22:05:42 <Chris_Booth> how is the doomed game going? 22:05:56 <AlexanderB> dunno, its paused? 22:06:10 <Chris_Booth> !password 22:06:10 <PublicServer> Chris_Booth: brunts 22:06:37 <AlexanderB> designing something for BBH04 22:06:48 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (enough players) 22:06:48 <PublicServer> *** Chris Booth joined the game 22:06:54 <Chris_Booth> should be unpaused now 22:07:08 <PublicServer> <AlexanderB> yeah :) 22:07:19 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> you want to build BBH 04 22:07:26 <PublicServer> <AlexanderB> if i may? :D 22:07:27 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> if you draw a shematic i can help 22:07:39 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> no rules on who cant or cant build 22:07:43 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> just go for it mate 22:09:35 <PublicServer> <AlexanderB> errm.. look a bit to the north of bbh04 22:10:05 <PublicServer> <AlexanderB> basically what i built there, times many, a lot bigger, rotated 4 times to fit in eachother, "looks like a roundabout" kind of thing 22:10:28 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> you know the curve length is 7 22:10:38 <PublicServer> <AlexanderB> and instead of the bdridge, i want a hightened hill circle with the "ring" tracks on it 22:11:02 <PublicServer> <AlexanderB> yeah 22:11:15 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> what about stations? 22:11:39 <PublicServer> <AlexanderB> dunno.. havent got around to that.. 22:11:52 <PublicServer> <AlexanderB> i usually build (rather effective) terminus stations 22:12:04 <PublicServer> <AlexanderB> but i understand its convention to build ro-ro on this server? 22:12:32 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> depends on space ETC 22:13:06 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> how about something similar to what i have drawn? 22:14:03 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> or we could try and make a working roundabout 22:15:40 <PublicServer> <AlexanderB> pff.. 22:15:54 <PublicServer> <AlexanderB> still figuring out in my head how to get this right :P 22:18:01 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Hobbs+Cross+Rd&sll=51.679408,0.129948&sspn=0.008489,0.02547&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Hobbs+Cross+Rd,+Theydon+Garnon,+Essex+CM16+7,+United+Kingdom&z=14 22:18:02 <Webster> Title: Hobbs Cross Rd - Google Maps (at maps.google.co.uk) 22:18:07 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> check that out 22:18:15 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> i think thats what you are getting @ 22:18:52 <PublicServer> <AlexanderB> yeah 22:19:02 <PublicServer> <AlexanderB> ...thats pretty much exactly what i want :P 22:19:15 *** jdread has joined #openttdcoop 22:19:20 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v jdread 22:19:23 <jdread> !players 22:19:24 <PublicServer> jdread: Client 188 is FiCE, a spectator 22:19:24 <PublicServer> jdread: Client 248 is Jens, a spectator 22:19:25 <PublicServer> jdread: Client 252 (Orange) is AlexanderB, in company 1 (Condinghead Transport) 22:19:25 <PublicServer> jdread: Client 255 (Orange) is Chris Booth, in company 1 (Condinghead Transport) 22:19:29 <jdread> !password 22:19:29 <PublicServer> <AlexanderB> now looking at it.. 22:19:29 <PublicServer> jdread: scalps 22:19:36 <PublicServer> <AlexanderB> this one might even be better then what i tought up 22:19:43 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> also M25 junction 12 is similar 22:20:33 <PublicServer> <AlexanderB> not familiar with the UK roads.. where is M5? 22:20:49 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> west country exiter to birmingham 22:20:52 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> via bristol 22:22:24 <PublicServer> *** jdread joined the game 22:23:50 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> why the M5? 22:23:59 <PublicServer> <AlexanderB> ...i cant find it.. anyway 22:24:19 <PublicServer> <AlexanderB> oh.. 22:24:20 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=bristol&sll=51.737766,0.507689&sspn=0.033911,0.134583&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Bristol,+Avon,+United+Kingdom&ll=51.502759,-2.556725&spn=0.136347,0.407524&z=12 22:24:21 <Webster> Title: bristol - Google Maps (at maps.google.co.uk) 22:24:22 <PublicServer> <AlexanderB> m25 22:24:25 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> thats the M5 22:24:27 <PublicServer> <AlexanderB> my-reading-bad :P 22:24:36 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> oooh M25 is london 22:24:48 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> junction 11 is south west london 22:24:53 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> with the M3 22:25:20 <PublicServer> <AlexanderB> yeah, got it 22:25:24 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> ok 22:25:29 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> i mean junction 12 22:25:42 <PublicServer> <AlexanderB> pretty much exactly what i had in mind (only better still :P) 22:26:23 <PublicServer> *** Chris Booth has left the game (connection lost) 22:26:24 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (not enough players) 22:26:24 *** Progman has quit IRC 22:26:44 <Chris_Booth> !password 22:26:44 <PublicServer> Chris_Booth: scalps 22:26:58 <AlexanderB> random timeout? 22:27:05 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (enough players) 22:27:06 <PublicServer> *** Chris Booth joined the game 22:27:07 <Chris_Booth> not sure 22:27:36 <PublicServer> *** jdread has left the game (connection lost) 22:27:49 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> dont you have highway junctions like the where you are from? 22:27:53 <jdread> !password 22:27:53 <PublicServer> jdread: scalps 22:28:10 <PublicServer> <AlexanderB> holland 22:28:29 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> holland must have big highway junctions 22:28:30 <PublicServer> <AlexanderB> and the favourite here seems cloverleaf and T-junction kind of junctions 22:28:53 <PublicServer> *** jdread joined the game 22:28:55 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> cloverleaf are dnagerious 22:29:11 <PublicServer> <AlexanderB> yeah 22:31:17 <AlexanderB> http://maps.google.nl/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=nl&geocode=&q=Knooppunt+eemnes&sll=52.228036,5.241165&sspn=0.018532,0.038452&ie=UTF8&hq=Knooppunt+Eemnes&hnear=Knooppunt+Eemnes,+3755+Eemnes&ll=52.232268,5.240307&spn=0.017873,0.038452&t=h&z=15 22:31:19 <Webster> Title: Knooppunt eemnes - Google Maps (at maps.google.nl) 22:31:32 <PublicServer> <AlexanderB> thats some kind of hybrid one.. 22:31:58 <PublicServer> <AlexanderB> and the one i live/where my parents live is jsut to the east, a real cloverleaf 22:33:41 <AlexanderB> http://maps.google.nl/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=nl&geocode=&q=&sll=51.483401,5.400746&sspn=0.009087,0.019226&ie=UTF8&ll=51.483227,5.400746&spn=0.009421,0.019226&t=h&z=16 22:33:43 <Webster> Title: Google Maps (at maps.google.nl) 22:34:12 <AlexanderB> (doesnt exist anymore, afaik, the whole thing around eindhoven (town there) is one big construction site 22:34:27 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> just junction show god logic 22:34:42 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> lower traffic route get less high graded route 22:35:30 <PublicServer> <AlexanderB> yeah.. but you need insight in what amount of traffic to expect 22:35:43 <PublicServer> <AlexanderB> and they got that wrong in quite some places in out contry, treffic jam every day 22:35:48 <PublicServer> <AlexanderB> traffic* 22:36:05 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> you want to drive the M25 22:36:16 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> dubbed the worlds largest car park 22:36:19 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> by people who drive it 22:36:37 <PublicServer> <AlexanderB> hehe :) 22:36:40 <PublicServer> <AlexanderB> well.. 22:36:57 <PublicServer> <AlexanderB> they're upgrading some pieces to 6 x 6 22:37:18 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> what the m25 22:37:24 <PublicServer> <AlexanderB> but they havent firued out what to do about drivers who go from the lane furthest away to take the exit in a 45 degree angle, making everyone slam the brakes :P 22:37:35 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> some sections are wider than that allreade 3 x 4 x 4 x3 22:37:36 <PublicServer> <AlexanderB> no, some in holland 22:37:58 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> 6 x 6 is small 22:37:59 <PublicServer> <AlexanderB> like LLLLLL RRRRRR 22:38:07 <PublicServer> <AlexanderB> isnt that 6x6? 22:38:14 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> yeah 22:38:21 *** ODM has quit IRC 22:38:21 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> 4 carrgage way is big 22:38:33 <PublicServer> <AlexanderB> thats big here, its LL RR for >95% 22:38:42 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> yeah 22:38:55 <AlexanderB> they should make LLL LLL RRR RRR.. 22:39:04 <AlexanderB> and make the outside 3 lanes have acces to the exits only.. 22:39:12 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> in birmingham they had to build a new 3 x 3 bypass to an existing 5 lane section of M6 ringroad 22:39:20 <AlexanderB> and the middle 3 have switchover points at regular intervals, but mostly for long distance traffic 22:39:38 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> or make slow and fast exits 22:39:47 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> so exits from inner and outer lanes 22:40:18 <PublicServer> <AlexanderB> well.. just make it so that people dont go from middle lane to exit at last moment slowing down 22:40:24 <PublicServer> <AlexanderB> the whole thing 22:40:39 <PublicServer> <AlexanderB> exit on both sides of the same direction.. could be, but people wont like it here... 22:40:45 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> thats called common sence and driver training 22:40:54 <PublicServer> <AlexanderB> well.. drivers here are morons :P 22:41:17 <PublicServer> *** jdread has left the game (leaving) 22:41:23 <PublicServer> <AlexanderB> they see the 500m exit sign and *then decide to stop driving 20 over the speed in the fast lane and do a 45 degree angle across all lanes to reach teh exit in time 22:41:32 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> 6 x 6 is tomuch for a dual carrageway 22:41:43 <PublicServer> <AlexanderB> yup, i know 22:41:48 <PublicServer> <AlexanderB> our gov. doesnt tho 22:42:00 <PublicServer> <AlexanderB> so now they're expanding the clogged 5x5 to 6x6 22:42:19 <PublicServer> <AlexanderB> not realising 99% of the problems is due to crossing traffic, not due to enough lanes 22:42:38 <PublicServer> <AlexanderB> same goes with trains here.. 22:43:51 *** jdread has quit IRC 22:44:29 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> now just to build it 22:44:36 <PublicServer> <AlexanderB> yeah 22:44:43 <PublicServer> <AlexanderB> and another problem.. 22:46:05 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> something like that? 22:46:14 <PublicServer> <AlexanderB> that would work :) 22:47:11 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> remeber bridges must alway be synced 22:47:31 <PublicServer> <AlexanderB> i know, or the trains will wait instead of take a 1 tile detour to keep speed 22:48:31 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> what about the 3rd one? 22:48:48 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> ooh yes it works 22:48:49 <PublicServer> <AlexanderB> well.. in theory it would work as intended 22:48:53 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> it works great 22:48:56 <PublicServer> <AlexanderB> ok :) 22:50:08 <PublicServer> <AlexanderB> ah... 22:50:11 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> it would work if 1 longer 22:50:25 <PublicServer> <AlexanderB> if the bridges were one tile longer.. it would work, right? 22:50:34 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> yeah 22:51:20 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> i cant build now but i can stay connected so you can build 22:51:33 <PublicServer> <AlexanderB> ... ok.. 22:52:04 <PublicServer> <AlexanderB> wont be staying too long, not sure if i should build, or wait for tomorrow? 22:52:19 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> start building 22:52:27 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> and leave a WIP /name sign 22:52:34 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> and leave for you to finish 22:52:35 <PublicServer> <AlexanderB> ok 22:52:46 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> otherwise it may be claimed by someone else 22:52:59 <PublicServer> <AlexanderB> ok 22:55:36 *** ^Spike^ has quit IRC 23:06:59 *** Polygon has quit IRC 23:10:53 *** Xaroth has joined #openttdcoop 23:10:58 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v Xaroth 23:17:56 *** Xaroth_ has quit IRC 23:18:09 *** valhalla1w has joined #openttdcoop 23:18:14 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v valhalla1w 23:24:02 *** valhallasw has quit IRC 23:27:42 *** zachanima has quit IRC 23:28:36 *** valhalla1w has quit IRC 23:33:55 *** zachanima has joined #openttdcoop 23:34:00 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v zachanima 23:41:26 *** zachanima has quit IRC 23:41:36 *** zachanima has joined #openttdcoop 23:41:41 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v zachanima 23:45:10 *** PeterT has joined #openttdcoop 23:45:15 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v PeterT 23:45:23 <PeterT> !password 23:45:23 <PublicServer> PeterT: debunk 23:46:25 <PublicServer> *** Peter joined the game 23:47:14 <PublicServer> <Peter> Hey Alexz 23:47:18 <PublicServer> <AlexanderB> hey :) 23:47:21 <PublicServer> <Peter> Alex 23:47:24 <PublicServer> <AlexanderB> yes? 23:47:29 <PublicServer> <AlexanderB> (building BBH04) 23:47:33 <PublicServer> <Peter> did you build anything? 23:47:36 <PublicServer> <Peter> oh, you are :) 23:47:56 <PublicServer> <AlexanderB> just messing around still, first hub eh :P 23:49:09 <PublicServer> <Peter> can I help you? 23:49:29 <PublicServer> <AlexanderB> dunno? :) 23:50:24 <PublicServer> <AlexanderB> still figuring out how to do all the crossover and crossunder things 23:50:32 <PublicServer> <AlexanderB> and that farm is in the way.. a lot :P 23:53:42 <PublicServer> <Peter> @tunnels 5 4 23:53:45 <PublicServer> <Peter> TL 5? 23:53:54 <PublicServer> <AlexanderB> TL7 23:54:14 <PublicServer> <Peter> oh 23:54:24 <PublicServer> <Peter> @tunnels 7 23:54:25 <PublicServer> <AlexanderB> same thing anyway 23:54:33 <PublicServer> <AlexanderB> however..