Log for #openttdcoop on 4th February 2010:
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00:32:11  <V453000> wow SmatZ ingame? :)
00:33:18  * KenjiE20 np: Pink Floyd - Run Like Hell
00:33:28  <KenjiE20> Yes, I just finished all of Pulse
00:33:33  <KenjiE20> \m/
00:34:29  <KenjiE20> there's something about the sound of Hyde Park chanting "we want more"
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00:36:08  <SmatZ> V453000: SmatZ outgame :)
00:45:18  <V453000> yeye I see
00:47:39  <V453000> well ... good night
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07:02:22  <haseo> !download
07:02:22  <PublicServer> haseo: !download autostart|autottd|autoupdate|lin|lin64|osx|win32|win64|win9x
07:02:37  <haseo> !download win64
07:02:37  <PublicServer> haseo:
07:04:37  <haseo> !password
07:04:37  <PublicServer> haseo: punier
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07:48:14  <Watson> !password
07:48:14  <PublicServer> Watson: crouch
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08:01:25  <pasteur> !players
08:01:27  <PublicServer> pasteur: Client 102 (Orange) is Dr. Watson, in company 1 (OTTDC PSG#175)
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08:33:59  <V453000> !password
08:33:59  <PublicServer> V453000: whiten
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09:31:31  <PublicServer> MDGrein: craned
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10:31:39  <MDGrein> !password
10:31:40  <PublicServer> MDGrein: levity
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11:58:49  <Doomah> joehoew!
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11:59:59  <ziza> !password
11:59:59  <PublicServer> ziza: realty
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12:06:52  <mitooo> !playercount
12:06:52  <PublicServer> mitooo: Number of players: 1
12:06:57  <mitooo> !players
12:06:58  <PublicServer> mitooo: Client 110 is Combuster, a spectator
12:07:03  <mitooo> hi :)
12:07:21  <mitooo> !password
12:07:21  <PublicServer> mitooo: realty
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12:25:01  <V453000> the best moments of Openttd are when you build something really huge, you build it for long, and in the end it doesnt work completely :D
12:27:15  <planetmaker> :-P
12:27:26  <planetmaker> Just had that here in RL.
12:27:44  <planetmaker> Having a big pile of data... only to find out, processing went wrong for half of them... :S
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12:31:40  <mitooo> followed.
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12:40:47  <mitooo> hi :)
12:41:12  <[com]buster> hi ODM
12:43:21  <Doomah> !password
12:43:21  <PublicServer> Doomah: baling
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12:43:47  <Chris_Booth> !password
12:43:47  <PublicServer> Chris_Booth: baling
12:45:21  <Chris_Booth> !password
12:45:22  <PublicServer> Chris_Booth: baling
12:45:27  <mitooo> aaaahhhh! people! ^^
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12:45:42  <PublicServer> <Combuster> Hey chris
12:45:47  <PublicServer> <Combuster> you got votes
12:45:50  <PublicServer> <Combuster> its a wonder :)
12:46:05  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> its not a wonder
12:46:15  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> i have won many plans befor
12:46:34  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> but i didnt think about this plan
12:46:36  <ODM> ey [com]buster
12:46:41  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> and i wouldnt vote for my plan
12:47:06  <PublicServer> <Doomah> It wouldn't work well, the map isn't square enough :P
12:47:31  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> it would work but has to many MLs
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12:48:47  <Chris_Booth> ok i am off to uni now
12:48:49  <Chris_Booth> have fun guys
12:48:59  <[com]buster> without voting? :(
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12:50:28  <ODM> voting is for le bourgeoisie
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12:51:44  <Chris_Booth> [com]buster: i can vote for myself
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12:51:48  <Chris_Booth> so i dont vote
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12:56:31  <PublicServer> <VictorOfSweden> time to vote :)
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12:56:52  <[com]buster> or adding plans...
12:57:55  <PublicServer> <VictorOfSweden> nah, i'll leave that part to others
13:02:02  <[com]buster> Well, looks like the easy plan wins today
13:02:29  <planetmaker> That's not always bad :-)
13:02:47  <[com]buster> It is generally less interesting
13:03:12  <PublicServer> <VictorOfSweden> i thought V's plan was the nicest looking one
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13:03:32  <PublicServer> <VictorOfSweden> that's why i voted for it
13:03:36  <subz> !password
13:03:36  <PublicServer> subz: blooms
13:03:46  <[com]buster> the best looking plan isn't always the best performing plan
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13:04:17  <[com]buster> If that were the case, everybody should vote for CB's artwork
13:04:28  <[com]buster> 'o.o'
13:04:36  <V453000> ;)
13:04:59  <[com]buster> Ah, todays winner
13:05:08  <[com]buster> If you want, you can take it from here
13:05:11  <V453000> voting didnt end yet
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13:05:36  <V453000> oh
13:05:39  <V453000> O_o
13:05:41  <[com]buster> it is now :)
13:05:55  <V453000> I wanted to vote for you at least! :)
13:06:08  <V453000> k
13:06:10  <V453000> :)
13:06:11  <PublicServer> <Combuster> thanks :)
13:06:22  <PublicServer> <subzero> I'm looking forward to how this one will turn out!
13:06:25  <PublicServer> <Combuster> ...and the new winner is... V453000
13:06:37  <PublicServer> <V453000> all hail the new god :D lol.
13:06:43  <PublicServer> <VictorOfSweden> :D
13:06:46  <PublicServer> <subzero> Hail V453000!
13:06:55  * KenjiE20 doesn't remember V's plan at all
13:07:05  <PublicServer> <V453000> right ... I will mark some spots on the map
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13:07:16  <Combuster> @stage Building
13:07:16  *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG #175 (r18985) | STAGE: Building | | New players, use @quickstart & !help | Screenshots: | Coopetition ladder:"
13:07:27  <PublicServer> <VictorOfSweden> KenjiE20: the one with a single ml
13:07:36  <KenjiE20> oh right
13:07:43  <KenjiE20> with the 9 SL's marked out?
13:07:47  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes
13:07:48  <PublicServer> <VictorOfSweden> yes
13:07:55  <KenjiE20> ok, could be worse
13:08:03  <KenjiE20> :D
13:08:05  <PublicServer> <VictorOfSweden> hehe :P
13:08:32  * Combuster refrains from mentioning the name
13:08:38  * KenjiE20 's vote speaks for itself
13:08:38  <KenjiE20> :P
13:08:53  <PublicServer> <V453000> hehe
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13:14:13  <PublicServer> <VictorOfSweden> should we change the company name maybe?
13:14:18  <PublicServer> <V453000> why
13:14:27  <haseo> !password
13:14:27  <PublicServer> haseo: cheeps
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13:14:57  <PublicServer> <VictorOfSweden> previous games have all had "real" company names, haven't they?
13:15:13  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes, that was quite bad :)
13:15:21  <PublicServer> <haseo> real is a relative term
13:15:43  <PublicServer> <VictorOfSweden> "OTTDC PSG#175" doesn't sound lika a company name
13:15:50  <PublicServer> <VictorOfSweden> not at all
13:15:57  <PublicServer> <V453000> ...
13:16:00  <PublicServer> <V453000> lol.
13:16:10  <PublicServer> <haseo> I doubt we call them BMW etc
13:16:11  <KenjiE20> is it really an issue?
13:16:21  <PublicServer> <V453000> Kenji: exactly
13:16:26  <PublicServer> <VictorOfSweden> not really
13:16:39  <PublicServer> <VictorOfSweden> just noticed it
13:17:07  <PublicServer> <VictorOfSweden> thought i'd ask about it
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13:23:07  <PublicServer> <haseo> anyone mind if I make a tempory connection between Cagingfield and the nearby tratown gold mine
13:23:29  <PublicServer> <V453000> but why to make it
13:23:43  <PublicServer> <haseo> so the gold mine is better later on
13:23:55  <PublicServer> <V453000> we got no gold in the plan
13:24:35  <Ammler> haseo: that is exactly the reason we don't use coal for MM anymore
13:24:40  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 0002F0C8:
13:24:40  <PublicServer> <haseo> read Scenario
13:24:58  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes, gold is optional
13:25:51  <PublicServer> <Mitooo> what mean "in the warmer summer [...] and gold"?
13:28:25  <Combuster> it refers to the fact that the mountains are popular winter attractions
13:28:35  <Combuster> and that some revenue is required in the off-season
13:28:51  <Combuster> (in this case, summer)
13:29:00  <Combuster> but I'm off
13:29:02  <PublicServer> <Mitooo> but it's just on scenario or a feature added?
13:29:14  <PublicServer> <V453000> just a scenario
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13:29:44  <Combuster> There was no gold in Vbignum's initial plan so I wouldn't want to add it now
13:30:03  <PublicServer> <V453000> Vbignum :D lovely
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13:34:35  <PublicServer> <haseo> so the transfer stations will be the food processing plants as well ?
13:34:40  <PublicServer> <V453000> no
13:34:51  <PublicServer> <V453000> there is the food transfered from the one FPP
13:35:04  <PublicServer> <V453000> and from them the food is transfered to towns
13:35:32  <PublicServer> <V453000> you can see that for example there is sign !transfer 02 here ... then there are towns with signs 02
13:35:47  <PublicServer> <V453000> that means that from the transfer the food goes to towns with 02
13:36:37  <PublicServer> <haseo> right, want me to build a transfer station then ?
13:36:43  <PublicServer> <V453000> first the ML
13:37:08  <PublicServer> <haseo> I'm not so good at that, not sure how many tracks it needs
13:37:25  <PublicServer> <V453000> it is written in the plan
13:37:32  <PublicServer> <V453000> how many between which hub
13:39:25  <mitooo> one more day until holidays :)
13:39:33  <PublicServer> <V453000> ?
13:39:39  <PublicServer> <V453000> oh
13:39:42  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 0000BC87:
13:39:42  <PublicServer> <V453000> true
13:52:54  <PublicServer> <V453000> all rail, k?
13:53:10  <PublicServer> <haseo> we got access to maglev already
13:53:16  <PublicServer> <V453000> ALL RAIl
13:53:30  <PublicServer> <V453000> there is no cargo maglev in 2cc
13:54:00  <PublicServer> <haseo> which is a pain in the ...
13:54:01  <PublicServer> <V453000> and LL_RR starts after SLH 07, not 08 :)
13:54:44  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 0005F0FC:
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13:58:19  <PublicServer> <V453000> why do you make bridges at the end of SL lol? :D
13:58:25  <PublicServer> <haseo> water
13:58:32  <PublicServer> <V453000> delete them
13:58:33  <PublicServer> <V453000> useless
13:58:40  <PublicServer> <subzero> :/
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14:04:16  <MDGrein> !password
14:04:16  <PublicServer> MDGrein: perils
14:04:18  <PublicServer> <V453000> whoa
14:04:21  <PublicServer> <V453000> man
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14:04:40  <PublicServer> <V453000> try to follow the terrain
14:04:43  <PublicServer> <V453000> whoever makes the ML
14:05:06  <PublicServer> <V453000> you can let teh spaces for hub empty anyways...
14:05:07  * mitooo facepalm
14:05:09  <PublicServer> <subzero> I'd get trainsick from that ride!
14:05:14  <PublicServer> <haseo> it has to be moved later anyway to make the SLH
14:05:22  <PublicServer> <V453000> as I said
14:05:29  <PublicServer> <V453000> leave it free space for SLH
14:05:32  <PublicServer> <V453000> dont even build there the ML
14:06:36  <mitooo> \o/
14:06:45  <subz> o/
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14:09:25  <mitooo> cause i managed to launch openttd without using .deb :)
14:09:46  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 00072514:
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14:11:42  <PublicServer> <subzero> What in gods name, V45 :D
14:11:53  <PublicServer> <subzero> *Sees tetris*
14:11:56  <PublicServer> <V453000> hm?
14:11:59  <PublicServer> <V453000> heh
14:12:34  <PublicServer> <V453000> will be nice to candy this
14:13:41  <PublicServer> <MDGrein> odd lookin trains :)
14:13:56  <PublicServer> <V453000> wha?
14:14:05  <PublicServer> <MDGrein> flags and stuff
14:14:17  <PublicServer> <V453000> lol
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14:18:02  <PublicServer> <V453000> you thought you would need only one or what? :D
14:18:10  <PublicServer> <Mitooo> yeah :p
14:18:15  <PublicServer> <V453000> lol
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14:25:15  <PublicServer> <MDGrein> what is the ML TL?
14:25:17  <PublicServer> <MDGrein> 5?
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14:25:24  <PublicServer> <Mitooo> i think yes
14:25:37  <PublicServer> <V453000> 5
14:25:42  <PublicServer> <MDGrein> rgr
14:25:54  <PublicServer> <V453000> kk
14:29:02  <PublicServer> <Thraxian> mitoo, you still building SLH06?
14:29:07  <PublicServer> <Mitooo> yeah
14:29:11  <PublicServer> <Thraxian> check your ML bridges - no signal room
14:29:19  <PublicServer> <Thraxian> before you get too deep into it
14:29:28  <PublicServer> <Mitooo> i already knew it'll fail :p
14:29:37  <PublicServer> <Thraxian> it's looking pretty good so far, actually
14:29:43  <PublicServer> <Thraxian> try reversing the ML shift
14:30:08  <PublicServer> <Thraxian> like that
14:30:16  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
14:30:28  <PublicServer> <V453000> this is tbe best bridging I know
14:30:29  <PublicServer> <Thraxian> well, almost
14:31:00  <PublicServer> <Thraxian> same with the other ML direction
14:31:06  <PublicServer> <Thraxian> but overall, looking really good
14:31:18  <PublicServer> <Mitooo> thanks :)
14:32:22  <PublicServer> <Thraxian> where can I be useful, if I don't have much time right this moment?
14:32:37  <PublicServer> <V453000> I think anywhere
14:32:49  <PublicServer> <V453000> any minor hub if not much time :)
14:33:04  <PublicServer> <Thraxian> haseo took the "minor" ones :)
14:33:17  <PublicServer> <V453000> I see :)
14:33:27  <PublicServer> <V453000> hmm .. then take a bigger one and make it quick :P
14:34:26  <PublicServer> <Thraxian> what's CL?  5?
14:34:30  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes
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14:37:32  <PublicServer> <V453000> whats up mitooo? :)
14:38:02  <PublicServer> <Mitooo> the first impresion when i saw your station :p
14:38:05  <PublicServer> <V453000> lol
14:38:25  <PublicServer> <V453000> well ... thats also an impression :D
14:39:45  <PublicServer> <Thraxian> SLH07 done - woohoo!
14:39:50  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 000474CD:
14:39:53  <PublicServer> <V453000> :]
14:39:57  <PublicServer> <Thraxian> ain't the prettiest thing, but I think it gets the job done
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14:40:01  <PublicServer> <V453000> wut :D
14:40:04  <PublicServer> <V453000> fast
14:40:11  <jondisti> building already
14:40:31  <jondisti> !password
14:40:31  <PublicServer> jondisti: lodges
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14:43:06  <PublicServer> <Thraxian> haseo, can you add prio to your SLH08?
14:43:09  <PublicServer> <V453000> The ML looks like a Dragon with the head at the end :D
14:43:32  <PublicServer> <haseo> ah I forgot about that
14:43:33  <PublicServer> <Thraxian> hehe.....look at ML Terminus :)
14:45:43  <PublicServer> <V453000> Thraxian: do you think the merges / balancers at the terminus will work? I dont know
14:45:51  <PublicServer> <V453000> the prios for choices are very short
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14:46:27  <PublicServer> <Thraxian> we have two !transfer 01 here, and no transfer 07 marked
14:46:37  <PublicServer> <V453000> )oh damn
14:46:47  <PublicServer> <V453000> could you please just renumber them?
14:47:06  <PublicServer> <V453000> on it
14:47:06  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> someone working on SLH04?
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14:47:31  <PublicServer> <Thraxian> not yet
14:47:39  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> then i am
14:47:56  <PublicServer> <Thraxian> signed for you :)
14:49:00  <PublicServer> <Mitooo> this hurts.
14:49:15  <PublicServer> <V453000> where?
14:49:30  <PublicServer> <Mitooo> need 3 tunnels for 15 gap
14:49:33  <PublicServer> <V453000> yeah
14:49:34  <PublicServer> <V453000> where
14:49:52  <PublicServer> <V453000> SLH 06 I guess
14:50:10  <PublicServer> <Mitooo> *jackpot*
14:50:12  <PublicServer> <V453000> there are CL issues Mitooo
14:50:30  <PublicServer> <V453000> straighen them
14:50:36  <PublicServer> <V453000> and turn them later
14:50:43  <PublicServer> <V453000> make there the tunnels you need
14:50:46  <PublicServer> <Mitooo> but the question is: how?
14:50:56  <PublicServer> <V453000> see this
14:51:05  <PublicServer> <V453000> wait
14:51:09  <PublicServer> <V453000> where do those tunnels lead?
14:51:10  <PublicServer> <Mitooo> the cl4 is esay to fix, but the cl2...
14:51:28  <PublicServer> <V453000> the hub will need to be more spread
14:51:37  <PublicServer> <V453000> you need it bigger a bit
14:51:40  <PublicServer> <haseo> extend it out, and make the tunnel in two parts
14:51:42  <PublicServer> <V453000> so the CL would be ok
14:52:02  <PublicServer> <V453000> I will help you in one minuet
14:52:13  <PublicServer> <Mitooo> bigger the SLH? think i'l blow it ^^
14:52:21  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> who is putting signals wrong way :(
14:52:55  <PublicServer> <VictorOfSweden> i noticed that as well
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14:53:42  <PublicServer> <haseo> SLH is the wrong way on one side too
14:53:58  <PublicServer> <haseo> SLH 05
14:54:13  <PublicServer> <V453000> LOL
14:54:14  <PublicServer> <V453000> omfg
14:54:39  <PublicServer> <MDGrein> That good ey :)
14:54:52  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 000484D8:
14:55:08  <PublicServer> <MDGrein> junctions isn't my thang really... but i'll give it a go early instead of l8er on :)
14:56:04  <PublicServer> <Mitooo> i think openttd needs a copy/paste function
14:56:10  <PublicServer> <MDGrein> me to
14:56:12  <PublicServer> <V453000> not really
14:56:29  <PublicServer> <V453000> that would be useful only on flat land
14:56:44  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> what is max speed of trains?
14:56:47  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> farm trains
14:56:53  <PublicServer> <V453000> I think 210
14:57:18  <PublicServer> <MDGrein> what tracks goes in what direction :)
14:57:29  <PublicServer> <MDGrein> cus why have prios on incoming trains....
14:57:37  <PublicServer> <MDGrein> yes, I just thought of that
14:58:33  <Ammler> wow. short planning :-)
14:59:35  <PublicServer> <V453000> Ammler: I have no idea why so fast :D
14:59:59  <Ammler> !tweet Our unpatient players already began to build for #175 :-)
15:00:00  <PublicServer> Ammler: Tweet sent:
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15:07:42  <Ammler> @tweet s/unpatient/inpatient/ (sorry) :-$
15:07:45  <Webster> Ammler: Posted.
15:09:50  <Paul2> Ammler: impatient ;)
15:09:54  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 0003C2B1:
15:10:56  <Ammler> Paul2: lol
15:11:05  <KenjiE20> @tweet We all suck at spelling, it was impatient >_>
15:11:06  <Webster> KenjiE20: Posted.
15:11:12  <Paul2> :D
15:11:27  <Ammler> @tweet Why is there no damn edit button on this twitter?
15:11:28  <Webster> Ammler: Posted.
15:11:47  <V453000> .lol we have twitter?
15:12:02  <Ammler> oh, is "damn" twitterable?
15:12:04  <KenjiE20> yup
15:12:07  <mitooo> twitter fail
15:12:16  <Paul2> is it on identica?
15:12:26  * KenjiE20 shrugs
15:12:49  <KenjiE20> you kids and you youtwitfacetubebook's
15:12:57  <Paul2> (i meant are these tweets link to an identica account as well as a twitter one)
15:13:05  * KenjiE20 shrugs
15:13:17  <mitooo> you missed a "er"
15:13:19  <PublicServer> <V453000> Kenji: I H-A-T-E Facebook!
15:13:23  <Paul2> myyoutwitfacebebotubebookspace
15:13:37  <Paul2> beta2.0
15:13:41  <Paul2> (invite only)
15:13:53  <KenjiE20> click here for invite
15:14:27  <KenjiE20> yea, all this crap is lost on me
15:14:28  <Ammler> what is identica?
15:14:39  <Paul2> Ammler: twitter, but more open source or something.
15:14:48  <KenjiE20> I have email and a webblog-thing
15:14:52  <Paul2> (like twitter but with less users and less point really ;)
15:15:04  <Paul2>
15:15:06  <Paul2> www.
15:15:18  <Ammler> well, soon we have 10 followers ;-)
15:16:08  <KenjiE20> we'd probably have more if us members didn't use the coop one and got our own :P
15:16:14  <Ammler> Paul2: if the link is on topic, it isn't spam ;-)
15:16:41  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> who named the FPP drop as farm drop? :(
15:16:50  <PublicServer> <V453000> omfg
15:16:51  <PublicServer> <V453000> me
15:16:54  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> :P
15:16:56  <PublicServer> <V453000> does that really matter?
15:17:00  <Ammler> coop twitter is enough for me :-)
15:17:05  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> guess not :P
15:17:10  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
15:17:21  <KenjiE20> quite
15:17:25  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> i renamed it anyway
15:17:40  <PublicServer> <V453000> k
15:17:53  <Ammler> but maybe we should also make a coop facebook and youtube and what you all can guess :-)
15:17:58  <PublicServer> <V453000> haseo: are you sure you want to build a LLLL_RRRR SLH? :)
15:18:04  <KenjiE20> no
15:18:38  <PublicServer> <haseo> yeah, I've build half of it already
15:18:47  <PublicServer> <V453000> well ... not really
15:19:02  <PublicServer> <V453000> it needs choices for the merging
15:19:10  <PublicServer> <haseo> minus the prio
15:19:27  <PublicServer> <V453000> not prio ... choices
15:20:14  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> you're building merge @ wrong direction
15:20:18  <Ammler> @seen Gamer
15:20:18  <Webster> Ammler: I have not seen Gamer.
15:20:27  <PublicServer> <V453000> also true :D
15:20:28  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> if you ask me
15:20:30  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> :P
15:20:34  <PublicServer> <V453000> the merge is at the other side only
15:21:33  <PublicServer> <V453000> what?
15:21:43  <PublicServer> <V453000> see that
15:22:17  <PublicServer> <V453000> the trains from the SL go only to the FPP
15:22:20  <PublicServer> <haseo> doesn't mean a think sorry
15:22:21  <PublicServer> <V453000> not the other way
15:23:15  <PublicServer> <V453000> do you listen?
15:23:23  <PublicServer> <V453000> the merge shouldnt be there
15:23:27  <PublicServer> <V453000> i twill free you space
15:23:44  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes
15:24:32  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> about SLH03...
15:24:45  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> basically it needs a merge to outermost lane only?
15:24:47  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> since it begins there?
15:24:56  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 0000B4D8:
15:24:57  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> the lane i mean
15:25:09  <PublicServer> <V453000> well
15:25:12  <PublicServer> <V453000> it could be so
15:25:55  <PublicServer> <V453000> there isnt actually much space so it would probably be a good solution
15:25:58  <PublicServer> <V453000> at least for now
15:27:32  <PublicServer> <V453000> haseo: these bridges will fail probably
15:27:47  <PublicServer> <V453000> bad split
15:28:24  <PublicServer> <V453000> :\
15:28:25  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> dunno about that
15:28:32  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> with PBS it will work
15:28:35  <PublicServer> <V453000> nope
15:28:38  <PublicServer> <V453000> signal gap
15:28:47  <PublicServer> <V453000> now it is ok
15:28:55  <PublicServer> <V453000> hmmm
15:29:00  <PublicServer> <V453000> no
15:29:04  <PublicServer> <V453000> this must be different
15:29:09  <PublicServer> <V453000> they merge too soon
15:29:14  <PublicServer> <V453000> this could jam
15:29:36  <PublicServer> <V453000> haseo: I will modify
15:29:37  <PublicServer> <V453000> k?
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15:32:28  <PublicServer> <V453000> end of the line?
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15:32:45  <PublicServer> <V453000> no
15:32:46  <PublicServer> <V453000> signal gap
15:34:03  <PublicServer> <V453000> ok much better
15:34:13  <PublicServer> <haseo> whatever you think
15:34:23  <PublicServer> <V453000> hm?
15:34:51  <PublicServer> <haseo> bridges would have been shorter than tunnels
15:35:00  <PublicServer> <V453000> it is the same length
15:35:09  <PublicServer> <V453000> you can try
15:35:17  <PublicServer> <V453000> but nothing will change
15:35:31  <PublicServer> <V453000> somewhere it could
15:35:37  <PublicServer> <V453000> but this will work
15:36:30  <PublicServer> <V453000> fine
15:36:44  <PublicServer> <V453000> -.-
15:37:01  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> where's 12?
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15:37:13  <PublicServer> <V453000> probably nowhere
15:37:20  <PublicServer> <V453000> but I am at SLH 01
15:37:32  <PublicServer> <V453000> haseo: should I finish?
15:38:47  <PublicServer> <V453000> WTF ARE YOU DOING
15:39:44  <Razaekel> !password
15:39:44  <PublicServer> Razaekel: fidget
15:39:44  <PublicServer> <V453000> k now the merge
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15:43:57  <PublicServer> <V453000> hmm
15:45:07  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> ?
15:45:21  <PublicServer> <V453000> damn ... forgot the prios will need to be longer :)
15:45:40  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> they still can?
15:45:54  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> or not
15:45:55  <PublicServer> <V453000> sure
15:46:03  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> or yeas
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15:48:47  <PublicServer> <V453000> OMG§
15:50:33  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> no factory?
15:50:40  <PublicServer> <V453000> no
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15:50:45  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> kk
15:50:57  <Intexon> !password
15:50:57  <PublicServer> Intexon: sighed
15:51:01  <Intexon> hello there
15:51:02  <PublicServer> <V453000> no that is not CL3
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15:51:49  <PublicServer> <V453000> ok done
15:52:15  <PublicServer> <haseo> right, now I can fix your mistakes
15:52:24  <PublicServer> <V453000> there are none
15:52:29  <PublicServer> <V453000> NO
15:52:30  <PublicServer> <V453000> FFS NO
15:52:44  <PublicServer> <haseo> grow up man
15:52:49  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> man, yer noisy
15:52:51  <PublicServer> <V453000> the join is exactly to be TL5
15:53:00  <PublicServer> <V453000> there is no problem with thatt
15:53:16  <PublicServer> <V453000> Raz: sorry... out of my nerves
15:53:28  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> you need some hide
15:53:31  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> :-P
15:53:36  <PublicServer> <V453000> :|
15:53:41  <PublicServer> <haseo> you got on mine hours ago, at least I don't swear
15:54:14  <PublicServer> <V453000> I  am just correcting your mistakes, sorry.
15:54:21  <PublicServer> <haseo> who else spotted the tunnel that is too long for no reason ?
15:54:50  <PublicServer> <V453000> everywhere is a reason
15:55:00  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 0000592C:
15:56:06  <PublicServer> <V453000> everything is fine
15:56:12  <PublicServer> <V453000> any other issues?
15:56:28  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> yea, there's this loud person here and he's starting to annoy me
15:56:31  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> >.>
15:56:36  <PublicServer> <Thraxian> where are we looking for issues?
15:56:43  <PublicServer> <V453000> I am leaving already :p
15:57:01  <PublicServer> <V453000> Thraxian: well ... at SLH 01 but I think there are none
15:59:00  <PublicServer> <V453000> okay, have fun here, gotta go
15:59:00  <PublicServer> <V453000> cya
15:59:02  <PublicServer> <Thraxian> it looks ok to me
15:59:04  <PublicServer> <Thraxian> who did it?
15:59:08  <PublicServer> <V453000> me
15:59:16  <PublicServer> <Thraxian> I just signed your work
15:59:23  <PublicServer> <V453000> it was
15:59:31  <PublicServer> <Thraxian> not when I looked at it
15:59:39  <PublicServer> <Thraxian> I just added the /V.... to the SLH01 sign
15:59:51  <PublicServer> <V453000> O_O I was adding it a minute ago
15:59:54  <PublicServer> <V453000> well whatever :)
16:00:02  <PublicServer> <V453000> time for me to go ... cya later
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16:00:17  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> bye
16:01:56  <PublicServer> <haseo> still a few junctions to do
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16:03:21  <sietse> !info
16:03:21  <PublicServer> sietse: #:1(Orange) Company Name: 'OTTDC PSG#175'  Year Founded: 1950  Money: 14581149  Loan: 0  Value: 14727284  (T:0, R:0, P:6, S:0) unprotected
16:03:54  <sietse> !password
16:03:54  <PublicServer> sietse: busies
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16:05:17  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> does anyone have an opinion about SLH03 merging?
16:05:35  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> as i think it only needs to use the outermost lane
16:05:50  <PublicServer> <Sietse> building :-P
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16:06:53  <PublicServer> <Sietse> you should make those bridges longer
16:07:07  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> ?
16:07:10  <PublicServer> <Sietse> 3-tile bridges will slow down
16:07:40  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> if i think quickly... not?
16:08:39  <PublicServer> <Sietse> I thought the bridges have limited speed
16:08:49  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> in original maglev bridges yes
16:09:17  <PublicServer> <haseo> 257km/h
16:09:34  <PublicServer> <Sietse> so might be no problem here
16:09:42  <PublicServer> <Sietse> sorry for disturbance then :)
16:09:47  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> no problem :)
16:10:02  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 000488D6:
16:12:01  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> yippee
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16:18:24  <haseo> !password
16:18:24  <PublicServer> haseo: vanity
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16:25:56  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> MDGrein: still 1 slow curve in your SLH
16:25:58  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> i marked it :)
16:26:39  <PublicServer> <MDGrein> thanks... and I'm about to redesign that bit :)
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16:26:49  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> couple of things..
16:26:53  <PublicServer> <MDGrein> but I hadn't noticed the CL issue
16:28:10  <PublicServer> <MDGrein> as I said, about to redesign it :)
16:28:15  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> yep :)
16:28:22  <PublicServer> <MDGrein> but thanks for the heads up
16:28:40  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> yeah... nothing to panic about though :P
16:29:03  <PublicServer> <MDGrein> feels odd... an exit shuld be easier then a merge :)
16:29:06  <PublicServer> <MDGrein> bu nooooo
16:29:11  <PublicServer> <MDGrein> but*
16:29:41  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> well that ending track makes it a bit harder :P
16:29:48  <PublicServer> <MDGrein> very true
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16:35:58  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> we don't have too much money
16:36:08  <PublicServer> <haseo> rats
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16:40:07  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 000110DA:
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16:42:05  <MDGrein> !password
16:42:05  <PublicServer> MDGrein: pewter
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16:47:16  <PublicServer> <haseo> ack, some of the planes are running at a loss
16:48:03  <Chris_Booth> hello all
16:48:07  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> howdy
16:48:13  <PublicServer> <haseo> hi
16:48:29  <Chris_Booth> how is everyone
16:48:55  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> fine as...
16:49:28  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> whos building SLH02? :P
16:49:45  <PublicServer> <haseo> me, going to see if V does anything to it later
16:50:11  <V453000> if it will have no issues then I wont :p
16:50:15  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> if i was you i would build a split to all tracks :P
16:50:35  <V453000> hi Chris :)
16:51:34  <Thraxian|Work> :( my computer decided it was tired and rebooted itself
16:51:43  <PublicServer> <MDGrein> cool
16:51:45  <Thraxian|Work> I wasn't even in the office at the time, and I just did some Windows/Norton updates this morning
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16:52:45  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> MDGrein: removed useless triple bridge in SLH05
16:53:05  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> or, made it double
16:53:15  <PublicServer> <MDGrein> ah
16:53:23  <PublicServer> <MDGrein> didn't know weither that would be enough
16:53:53  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> you would need 3 for A->C
16:54:01  <PublicServer> <MDGrein> rgr
16:54:04  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> but there are signals @ B, so not 3 needed :)
16:54:35  <PublicServer> <MDGrein> and about the merging bit... why does an entire train need to be able to wait @ each choise
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16:54:52  <PublicServer> <MDGrein> the prio will make sure that the choise is clear?
16:54:53  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> if it's not able to join, other trains will be able to pass it
16:55:08  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 00048AD5:
16:55:30  <PublicServer> <MDGrein> becuse, won't the prio have a need to be longer because of the extra travel from choise to entry?
16:55:30  <Chris_Booth> !password
16:55:30  <PublicServer> Chris_Booth: mashed
16:56:00  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> you shouldn't connect choice and prio with combo signals
16:56:02  <PublicServer> <MDGrein> all assuming trains are moving @full speed
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16:56:11  <Osai> jondisti: why not using the fail save joiner?
16:56:21  <Osai> then you can get rid of the extra lanes
16:56:27  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> because prio could turn red anytime after train has passed choice
16:56:45  <Osai> not with fail-safe!
16:56:46  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> osai: haven't seen one in use yet :P
16:57:10  <Osai> !svn
16:57:10  <PublicServer> Osai: svn update -r18985 && make (mashed)
16:57:10  <PublicServer> Osai: svn checkout -r18985 svn:// openttdcoop && cd openttdcoop && ./configure && make
16:57:10  <PublicServer> <MDGrein> you sure have a point there Osai
16:57:11  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> i wait till someone else builds one :P
16:58:32  * MDGrein locates wiki page
16:58:52  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> MDGrein: its on the blog
16:58:56  <Thraxian|Work>
16:59:13  <MDGrein> thanks thrax
16:59:40  <Thraxian|Work> nice new portal (homepage) we've got now :)
16:59:54  <jondisti> Osai: you mean that one: ?
16:59:59  <jondisti> since this game is not SML
17:00:03  <Osai> no
17:00:19  <Osai> I'll join in a few seconds :D
17:00:30  <Osai> !password
17:00:30  <PublicServer> Osai: mashed
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17:01:16  <PublicServer> <Thraxian> do we have a trainyard yet?
17:01:22  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> MDGrein: not going to work....
17:01:29  <PublicServer> <0sai> TL is 5?
17:01:33  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> 0sai: yes
17:02:59  <Thraxian|Work> question for Osai
17:03:10  <PublicServer> <0sai> yes?
17:03:28  <Thraxian|Work> a failsafe joiner allows full-speed trains to enter a smaller gap on the ML, right?
17:03:41  <Thraxian|Work> and if the space isn't immediately available, the train continues on a bit, stops, then waits to join.
17:04:18  <Thraxian|Work> what happens when the "continuation" track gets full, and a train has to stop before the failsafe merger choice?
17:04:40  <Thraxian|Work> it seems possible that the stopped train might attempt to join on the shorter prio, which might cause a slowdown on the ML.
17:05:07  <Osai> no fail-safe join is about another issue
17:05:24  <Osai> fail-safe allows a train to join if it decides to join
17:05:40  <Osai> because the signal can't turn red in the moment the train joins
17:06:09  <Thraxian|Work> so we're not dealing with a full-speed failsafe joiner then...
17:06:46  <Osai> do you mean the cyclotron now?
17:06:51  <Thraxian|Work> no
17:07:07  <Osai> well, you can create a full-speed join
17:07:16  <Osai> but I'd prefer to call them pre-accelerated joins
17:07:20  <Razaekel> hmm
17:07:28  <Thraxian|Work> maybe I'm referring to the SML article, even though there's no SML in the screenshots ....
17:07:46  <Osai> for SML I'd prefer the hybrid system
17:07:51  <Osai> it combines several options
17:08:18  <PublicServer> <Thraxian> should the entry signals be 2-way (see sign)?
17:08:53  <PublicServer> <0sai> Thrax, it doesn't really matter
17:09:05  <PublicServer> <0sai> 2-way is EOL
17:09:30  <Razaekel> hmm
17:09:36  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> that can jam
17:09:42  <Razaekel> wonder what the idea map shape is for a SML tester
17:09:46  <Razaekel> ideal
17:09:52  <Razaekel> 128x1024, or 128x512?
17:09:53  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> not anymore
17:10:10  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 000116D4:
17:10:23  <Thraxian|Work> Raz: I'd say that depends a bit on TL, but either of those should work
17:10:33  <Thraxian|Work> also depends on the ML width
17:10:33  <Razaekel> Tl5
17:10:43  <Thraxian|Work> 2-lane SML is much shorter than 5-lane
17:10:50  <Razaekel> im thinking of sidlines every 100 tiles
17:10:57  <Razaekel> so that makes 10 SLs on the 512
17:11:00  <Razaekel> er
17:11:01  <Razaekel> 1024
17:11:19  <PublicServer> *** Thraxian has joined spectators
17:11:23  <Razaekel> pretty big
17:11:27  <Thraxian|Work> afk a bit....
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17:13:53  <Osai> time for the training now
17:13:54  <Osai> cya later
17:14:18  <PublicServer> <MDGrein> c ya
17:14:47  <Ammler> Osai: the exit signals are on the wrong tile
17:15:28  <Osai> its on the 6th
17:15:45  <Osai> but I guess, my blog screenshot was wrong
17:15:46  <Osai> -.-
17:15:52  <Osai> will update that
17:16:08  <Osai> anyway, laters
17:16:26  <Ammler> hmm, is TL 4?
17:16:34  <Razaekel> 5
17:16:38  <Ammler> or I can't cound maybe :-)
17:16:39  <PublicServer> <MDGrein> ML is 5
17:17:21  <Ammler> so if I count the last screenshot, only a TL4 would pass into the space to make it green
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17:25:42  <PublicServer> <Amm1er> did someone else fiddle with the train?
17:25:50  <PublicServer> <haseo> huh ?
17:26:19  <PublicServer> <MDGrein> there was a malplaced signal
17:26:27  <PublicServer> <haseo> I didn't even know we had one
17:27:13  <PublicServer> <Amm1er> I am right
17:27:48  <PublicServer> <MDGrein> well, the entry signals are wronfully placed
17:28:44  <PublicServer> <Sietse> you should include waiting space there
17:29:02  <PublicServer> <Amm1er> please don't change the signlas
17:29:06  <PublicServer> <Amm1er> combos are needed
17:29:12  <PublicServer> <MDGrein> now it's correct
17:29:16  <PublicServer> <Amm1er> and a presignals
17:29:21  <PublicServer> <MDGrein> according to osais screenshot
17:29:48  <PublicServer> <Amm1er> yes, but the screenshot doesn't need to be right, it is just a concept
17:29:52  <V453000> !password
17:29:52  <PublicServer> V453000: hearth
17:30:10  <PublicServer> <Amm1er> well, nvm, you will see it :-)
17:30:17  <PublicServer> <MDGrein> and in this particular case it needs to be modified, since we are joining 1 -> 2
17:30:26  <PublicServer> <MDGrein> osais concept was 1 -> 1
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17:30:41  <PublicServer> <Amm1er> yes, exactly :-)
17:30:42  <PublicServer> <V453000> hi
17:30:44  <PublicServer> <MDGrein> so the "fail-safe" bit needs to be moved back
17:30:53  <PublicServer> <Amm1er> everything fine
17:31:00  <PublicServer> <Amm1er> except the signals now
17:31:15  <PublicServer> <Amm1er> <-- entry should be exit
17:31:20  <PublicServer> <Amm1er> or combo
17:31:39  <PublicServer> <Amm1er> and the normal signal should be a entry signal
17:31:45  <PublicServer> <MDGrein> I think it might work as is tbh
17:31:57  <PublicServer> <Amm1er> so if both lines block, the joining train stops
17:32:03  <PublicServer> <Sietse> This won't work imo
17:32:10  <PublicServer> <MDGrein> that is a good thing though
17:32:18  <PublicServer> <Amm1er> Osai did all fine
17:32:28  <PublicServer> <Amm1er> he just should have moved the signal one tile
17:33:15  <PublicServer> <V453000> I was just giving you an advice
17:33:22  <PublicServer> <MDGrein> I'm beggining to doubt weither or not it will work in this scenario at all
17:33:35  <PublicServer> <Amm1er> as said, what now is, doesn't
17:33:47  <PublicServer> <Amm1er> but what osai made does (with my 1tile move)
17:34:02  <PublicServer> <MDGrein> I donn't think to
17:34:05  <PublicServer> <V453000> yeah that should work
17:34:11  <PublicServer> <MDGrein> <- not to sure
17:34:36  <PublicServer> <Amm1er> he, members have right everytime :-P
17:34:47  <PublicServer> <V453000> :D
17:34:51  <PublicServer> <Amm1er> no
17:34:56  <PublicServer> <Amm1er> but in this case, we are.
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17:35:14  <PublicServer> <Amm1er> now, you break it completely
17:35:26  <PublicServer> <V453000> what is that modification :D
17:35:28  <PublicServer> <V453000> not good
17:35:33  <PublicServer> <MDGrein> well... the space between the exit and the entry must be 5
17:35:45  <PublicServer> <Amm1er> sadly, you can't count
17:35:48  <PublicServer> <MDGrein> or else the waiting train will block it's own exit
17:35:58  <PublicServer> <Amm1er> you fail now by 2 tiles :-P
17:35:59  <PublicServer> <MDGrein> my bad :)
17:36:12  <PublicServer> <Amm1er> now 1
17:36:18  <PublicServer> <V453000> :D
17:36:23  <PublicServer> <Amm1er> same issue as osai, just the other direction
17:36:27  <PublicServer> <V453000> why were you moving it? :)
17:37:00  <PublicServer> <V453000> rule 1: Ammler is right :p
17:37:26  <PublicServer> <MDGrein> yes, but the train will wait at the entry signal, right?
17:37:28  <PublicServer> <Amm1er> well, in this case for sure, sorry :-P
17:37:32  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
17:37:37  <PublicServer> <Amm1er> MDGrein: NO!
17:37:54  <PublicServer> <Amm1er> that is just, if BOTH lines are occupied
17:38:07  <PublicServer> <Amm1er> then it doesn't need so "safe-join"
17:38:14  <PublicServer> <MDGrein> ok, like this then, the trail will pass the entry signal, right?
17:38:40  <PublicServer> <MDGrein> and since BOTH tracks it can join has it's exit connected to the track where it joins from
17:38:48  <PublicServer> <MDGrein> it will block it's own exit
17:39:06  <PublicServer> <Amm1er> if you don't trust me, please do at least revert it to what osai made :-)
17:39:22  <PublicServer> <MDGrein> I made t.b.h :)
17:39:31  <PublicServer> <V453000> it worked as it was before
17:39:47  <PublicServer> <V453000> turn it to the previous state pls :D
17:39:59  <PublicServer> <MDGrein> soon, I must first disprove ammler :)
17:40:05  <Ammler> MDGrein:
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17:40:49  <Ammler> that is Osai, the only thing i would change is the combos move one tile so a 5tl passes
17:41:01  <PublicServer> <V453000> ok ... I am leaving :) see you ... I will not be here tomorrow so see ya on Saturday
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17:41:25  <Doomah> haai~
17:41:27  <Chris_Booth> bye V453000
17:41:35  <Chris_Booth> have a good weekend
17:42:02  <PublicServer> <MDGrein>  god do I look like a buffon now...
17:42:12  <V453000> thanks ... I will be here on saturday ... then I am leaving for a week
17:42:14  <PublicServer> <MDGrein> sorry everyone I will just shut up from now on :)
17:42:47  <PublicServer> <Amm1er> you have really a 5tl train there?
17:42:57  <PublicServer> <V453000> no ?D
17:42:59  <PublicServer> <V453000> .D
17:43:01  <PublicServer> <MDGrein> I think so, not 100% sure though
17:43:02  <PublicServer> <V453000> :D
17:43:04  <PublicServer> <V453000> cya
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17:43:33  <PublicServer> <Amm1er> looks like 4.5
17:43:53  <PublicServer> <Amm1er> in that case, osai's might be perfekt
17:44:51  <PublicServer> <MDGrein> 9 cars 1 engine
17:45:04  <PublicServer> <Amm1er> yes
17:45:07  <PublicServer> <MDGrein> shuld make up 5 tiles huh, and I think i've gotten the normal length cars
17:45:09  <PublicServer> <Amm1er> but small cars
17:45:16  <PublicServer> <Amm1er> check the number on the right
17:45:43  <PublicServer> <MDGrein> numbers?
17:45:50  <PublicServer> <Amm1er> I see a 8
17:45:53  <PublicServer> <MDGrein> ah, that one
17:46:34  <PublicServer> <MDGrein> now this I don't get
17:46:34  <V453000> Chris Booth: you should have a PM from me :P
17:46:43  <PublicServer> <MDGrein> why is the entry green when all exits are red?
17:46:59  * planetmaker considers to de-activate highlight on 'pm'
17:47:00  <PublicServer> <Amm1er> because it is a OR
17:47:12  <Ammler> pm LOL
17:47:59  <PublicServer> <Amm1er> those exit signals should only matter on join, you understand?
17:48:00  <PublicServer> <MDGrein> well, that part i've got, but as far as I know entry signals only show green if there is a green exit
17:48:08  <PublicServer> <MDGrein> yes
17:48:22  <PublicServer> <Amm1er> you don't see the yellow combos?
17:48:26  <PublicServer> <MDGrein> I do
17:48:33  <PublicServer> <Amm1er> combo=exit & entry in one
17:49:01  <PublicServer> <Amm1er> so so you have 1 red and 1 gree -> entry green
17:49:27  <PublicServer> <MDGrein> ah... i've always thougt entry only went by exitsignals state
17:49:41  <PublicServer> <Amm1er> they do
17:49:50  <PublicServer> <Amm1er> but combos are exit too
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17:50:28  <PublicServer> <MDGrein> then it's just the pathfinder that selects an empty platform in a station setup?
17:50:40  <PublicServer> <haseo> test train huh
17:50:49  <PublicServer> <Amm1er> yes, lower penalty
17:51:04  <PublicServer> <MDGrein> aha
17:51:14  <PublicServer> <MDGrein> I feel like a much wiser man now
17:51:23  <PublicServer> <MDGrein> pardon my stubbornness
17:51:28  <PublicServer> <Amm1er> such things didn't work with original TTD
17:51:33  <PublicServer> <MDGrein> oh no
17:51:40  <PublicServer> <MDGrein> neither did track on slopes :)
17:51:55  <PublicServer> <MDGrein> or just drag and place... god that was a pain
17:52:06  <PublicServer> <Amm1er> well, you missed all the <0.5 fun ;-)
17:52:27  <PublicServer> <MDGrein> I can imagine
17:52:32  <PublicServer> <Amm1er> maybe we should make a non-YAPF game sometime
17:52:38  <Doomah> !password
17:52:38  <PublicServer> Doomah: sentry
17:52:42  <PublicServer> <MDGrein> that would be, interesting
17:52:50  <PublicServer> <MDGrein> waypoints all over the place
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17:52:54  <PublicServer> <Amm1er> hehe, you guys will be lost :-P
17:54:13  <PublicServer> <Amm1er> this train would pass with osais setup
17:55:05  <PublicServer> <Amm1er> yes, I can still add a waggon to make it TL5
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17:55:21  <PublicServer> <MDGrein> and not 4.7 :)
17:55:34  <PublicServer> <Amm1er> yes, something like that was your
17:55:47  <PublicServer> <Thraxian> are we ready for trains on the network now?
17:56:18  <PublicServer> <Doomah> Noobquestion: why not maglev?
17:56:19  <PublicServer> <Amm1er> you see, now, it doesn't
17:56:29  <PublicServer> <MDGrein> indeed
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17:57:13  <Ammler> Doomah: no noob questions please :-)
17:57:43  <PublicServer> <MDGrein> rails are old school, and that rhimes with cool
17:58:03  <PublicServer> <Thraxian> are we going to use Class 1044 trains?  160km/h, 7000hp
17:58:08  <PublicServer> <haseo> the maglev in this graphic set only does passengers
17:58:14  <PublicServer> <Doomah> ooh :P
17:59:03  <PublicServer> <MDGrein> well... thanks for the insigt into signals Ammler... I'm off to the movies now
17:59:29  <PublicServer> <Amm1er> well, I am happy, you have learned something
17:59:37  <PublicServer> <MDGrein> so am I
17:59:54  <PublicServer> <Amm1er> so we have another pro in our list :-)
18:00:25  <PublicServer> <MDGrein> I don't think I've reached wannabe yet :)
18:00:33  <PublicServer> <Amm1er> this safe-join is just awesome
18:01:13  <PublicServer> <Amm1er> sometimes, it is strange, how you can still invent new things.
18:01:15  <PublicServer> <haseo> SLH02 is finished, could someone check it for me
18:01:37  <PublicServer> <MDGrein> I'm equally amazed everytime you ppl come up with new stuff
18:01:42  <PublicServer> <Thraxian> lots of gap before bridges
18:02:13  <PublicServer> <MDGrein> there we go, my first SLH
18:02:18  <PublicServer> <haseo> on the ML you mean ?
18:02:31  <PublicServer> <Thraxian> yup, but some have already been handled
18:02:37  <PublicServer> <Thraxian> there are still quite a few left
18:02:43  <PublicServer> <MDGrein> anyhow, i'm off now, for real
18:02:48  <PublicServer> <MDGrein> c ya tomorrow
18:02:49  <PublicServer> <Thraxian> and is two tunnels sufficient for that long gap?
18:02:52  <PublicServer> <Amm1er> byebye
18:03:01  <PublicServer> <haseo> yeah, its 11 not 12
18:03:08  <PublicServer> <Thraxian> actually, it's 14
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18:03:31  <PublicServer> <Thraxian> not that - the tunnels....
18:03:34  <PublicServer> <Thraxian> ah, nvm
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18:04:07  <PublicServer> <Thraxian> want me to mark some gaps?
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18:04:39  <PublicServer> <haseo> yeah, I can't see them that well
18:04:45  <PublicServer> <Sietse> CL issue before tunnels though :)
18:04:59  <PublicServer> <Sietse> CL5 right?
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18:07:15  <PublicServer> <Thraxian> Sietse: good find
18:07:46  <PublicServer> <Sietse> maybe move tunnels one tile southwards
18:08:04  <PublicServer> <Amm1er> cl4 might be fine
18:08:44  <PublicServer> <Sietse> plus waiting space is not really equally divided
18:08:54  <PublicServer> <Sietse> that might cause some unwanted behaviour
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18:10:20  <Webster> Latest update from openttd: OpenTTD 1.0.0-beta4 <>
18:10:46  <PublicServer> <Thraxian> that's one way to fix that :)
18:10:49  <PublicServer> <Sietse> it might be nice to use a combined fail-safe joiner as in SLH05
18:10:55  <PublicServer> <Thraxian> the other way would be to turn that 2-way combo into a normal one-way signal
18:11:23  <PublicServer> <Sietse> ye, why those 2 -way combos?
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18:18:05  <PublicServer> <Thraxian> problem solved :)
18:19:19  <PublicServer> <Sietse> go Thraxian :)
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18:21:41  <PublicServer> <Sietse> signalling on SL02 reverses btw ;)
18:21:46  <PublicServer> <Thraxian> I've signed that
18:22:09  <PublicServer> <Thraxian> south of Wranington
18:22:18  <PublicServer> <Sietse> I see :)
18:22:47  <PublicServer> <Sietse> haseo from the UK I think :)
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18:25:06  <PublicServer> <Sietse> all entries have room for 2 (or maybe even 3) trains
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18:25:30  <PublicServer> <Thraxian> why no double bridge on the SL?
18:25:34  <PublicServer> <Sietse> which will make them choose the shortest way generally (except for full traffic)
18:26:28  <PublicServer> <Sietse> that single bridge will suffice for the time being I think :)
18:27:16  <PublicServer> <haseo> actually I forgot about the 2nd bridge
18:27:30  <PublicServer> <Thraxian> hehe..."gotta keep em synchorated
18:28:22  <PublicServer> <haseo> wiki doesn't know what "forced choosing" is :o
18:28:33  <PublicServer> <Sietse> you don't have a clue?
18:28:56  <PublicServer> <haseo> not really, involves signalling I think
18:29:06  <PublicServer> <Sietse> as it is now, they will always take the first path (shortest way)
18:29:11  <PublicServer> <Sietse> even if that line is crowded
18:29:42  <PublicServer> <Sietse> now check out SLH05 for example
18:29:56  <PublicServer> <Sietse> and watch the fail-safe joiner created there
18:30:09  <PublicServer> <Sietse> and try to understand its functionality
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18:30:57  <PublicServer> <Sietse> SLH06 got a slightly other approach which works aswell
18:30:59  <PublicServer> <Amm1er> VXXXXXXX, you have also signal bugs...
18:33:10  <PublicServer> <Thraxian> is SLH05 still WIP, or is it done?
18:33:27  <PublicServer> <Sietse> MDGrein said he was finished
18:34:01  <PublicServer> <Thraxian> check out trains 1 & 2 - are those ready for use?
18:34:25  <PublicServer> <Sietse> I dunno
18:34:34  <PublicServer> <haseo> test trains I think
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18:34:44  <PublicServer> <Sietse> they used some trains for testing that fail-safe joiner
18:35:11  <Ammler> ps186 = NPF game?
18:35:41  <PublicServer> <Sietse> that drop station looks odd
18:35:42  <Phazorx> 186?
18:35:53  <PublicServer> <haseo> my bad, those look like the real ones
18:35:54  <Ammler> 7
18:36:07  <Ammler> Phazorx: hehe, you are reading here :-)
18:36:44  <Ammler> npf might also be before your time ;-)
18:37:16  <PublicServer> <haseo> still only food drop, no pickup stations or network
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18:51:10  <Doomah> !password
18:51:10  <PublicServer> Doomah: quests
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18:52:34  <PublicServer> <Sietse> I went out for a coffee xP
18:52:46  <PublicServer> <haseo> heh
18:52:47  <PublicServer> <Sietse> aah, you changed signalling
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19:21:09  <tkjacobsen> !password
19:21:09  <PublicServer> tkjacobsen: manged
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19:27:25  <PublicServer> <Thraxian> Ammler, still lurking?
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19:37:32  <Ammler> oh, he yes, was already paused :-)
19:39:44  <mitooo> !password
19:39:44  <PublicServer> mitooo: catnap
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19:40:31  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 0000C971:
19:41:09  <PublicServer> <Mitooo> ah, many people who are eating i suppose :)
19:43:17  <Ammler> !rcon pause_on_join
19:43:17  <PublicServer> Ammler: Current value for 'pause_on_join' is: 'on' (min: 0, max: 1)
19:43:20  <Ammler> !rcon pause_on_join 0
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19:54:39  <PublicServer> <Thraxian> eating/working, same difference :)
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19:59:29  <kratt> !password
19:59:29  <PublicServer> kratt: slouch
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20:00:07  <kratt> !dlwin32
20:00:12  <kratt> !dl win32
20:00:12  <PublicServer> kratt:
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20:27:10  <MeisterMarkus> !password
20:27:10  <PublicServer> MeisterMarkus: amulet
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22:14:32  <Osai> hi all
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22:31:42  <Chris_Booth> hi all
22:33:12  <PeterT> hi Chris_Booth
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22:45:01  <XeryusTC> PeterT: are you starting to hit puberty?
22:45:11  <PeterT> Hi, XeryusTC
22:45:41  <PeterT> Umm...
22:46:02  <XeryusTC> starting to listen to eminem all day long.
22:46:31  <PeterT> I was wondering when someone would comment on that
22:46:49  <PeterT> XeryusTC:
22:46:50  <Webster> Title: Spotify playlist (at
22:46:59  <XeryusTC> i cant open spotify
22:47:32  <PeterT> Oh
22:47:49  <PeterT> Well, it's a playlist with all (and only) eminem songs
22:47:54  <PeterT> and I just play that all day
22:47:58  <PeterT> to see what I like and don't like
22:48:06  <PeterT> then I add what I like to "petert's playlist"
22:48:24  <XeryusTC> riiiight
22:48:49  <XeryusTC> and you do that with eminem for a few days straight because?
22:51:24  <subz> Cause eminem's music is so deep.
22:51:30  <subz> Wait a sec!
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22:54:22  <XeryusTC> hehe :
22:54:24  <XeryusTC> :')
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23:01:30  <Razaekel> deep? eminem?
23:01:39  <Razaekel> those two do NOT belong in the same sentence
23:02:18  <KenjiE20> sarcasm? on MY internet?
23:04:20  <subz> npossible
23:05:19  <KenjiE20> "?npossible" <- does no one use UTF-8?
23:05:27  <Razaekel> i do
23:05:32  <Razaekel> i saw the double dots
23:05:41  <KenjiE20> strange
23:05:45  <PeterT> I saw them also
23:08:22  <KenjiE20> since けんじ works fine
23:09:00  <PeterT> yes
23:09:17  * KenjiE20 wonders if it's a font thing
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23:10:08  <PeterT> !revision
23:10:08  <PublicServer> PeterT: Game version is r18985
23:10:29  <KenjiE20> hm, nope, monospace has these characters
23:10:50  <KenjiE20> ï
23:11:06  <PeterT> XeryusTC: Ok, I stopped listening to Eminem
23:11:12  <PeterT> just for one song, though
23:11:18  <PublicServer> *** Peter has left the game (connection lost)
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23:11:52  <KenjiE20> hm, that one show for you?
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23:12:01  <Luukland> !screen
23:12:01  <PublicServer> *** Luukland liked to make screenshot of last action, but nobody was working since. (
23:12:02  <PeterT> yes kenji :-)
23:12:03  <XeryusTC> PeterT: good, now become a proper authority defying person and start listening to greenday :')
23:12:23  <PeterT> XeryusTC: Hell no, a *proper* would listen to MCR
23:12:24  <Luukland> Interesting
23:12:31  <Luukland> Position of screenshot random?
23:12:41  <PeterT> Luukland: I beleive its the last active area
23:12:55  <Luukland> Ah nice, time for me to move back to HQ
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23:13:11  <XeryusTC> PeterT: no, that makes you emo
23:13:21  <KenjiE20> sure, wait for a reply why don't you?
23:13:25  <KenjiE20> >_<
23:14:15  <PeterT> Is AutoPilot/Dih's Bot required for the !screen command
23:14:27  <PeterT> avignon, I meant
23:15:29  <PublicServer> *** Peter has left the game (leaving)
23:15:36  <PeterT> XeryusTC: You're emo.
23:15:37  <PublicServer> *** VictorOfSweden joined the game
23:15:52  <PeterT> damn you! you join when I leave!
23:15:56  <PeterT> !password
23:15:56  <PublicServer> PeterT: cactus
23:16:02  <XeryusTC> :')
23:16:26  <PeterT> Some of their music is actually not bad
23:16:27  <PublicServer> *** Peter joined the game
23:16:36  <PeterT> Welcome to the Black Parade's intro is good :-)
23:16:42  <XeryusTC> all of their music is bad by default
23:16:58  <XeryusTC> especially since they changed from emo to something more trashy :o
23:17:05  <PublicServer> <Peter> VictorOfSweden: Can you please join company to unpause?
23:17:12  <PublicServer> <VictorOfSweden> sure
23:17:13  <PublicServer> *** VictorOfSweden has joined company #1
23:17:14  <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (not enough players)
23:17:19  <PublicServer> <Peter> thanks
23:17:35  <PeterT> how's this, XeryusTC
23:17:35  <KenjiE20> hmm, seems that char came over IRC as non-utf8
23:17:39  * PeterT is now listening to: Scorpions  Is There Anybody There? - Live
23:18:00  <XeryusTC> i wonder whether i should kick VictorOfSweden from the game because of idling to keep the game unpaused :P
23:18:05  <XeryusTC> PeterT: that is way better ;)
23:19:11  <VictorOfSweden> well, i joined company because PeterT asked me to
23:19:21  <VictorOfSweden> i thought he wanted to build something
23:19:27  <PeterT> I do/am
23:19:31  <XeryusTC> hehe, i was just kiddin' :P
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23:19:49  <XeryusTC> but actually, joining just to unpause the game used to be strictly forbidden :o
23:19:51  <KenjiE20> hmm, I should hunt down Resistance
23:19:59  <VictorOfSweden> XeryusTC: oh, ok..
23:20:20  <XeryusTC> VictorOfSweden: not a problem though, as there are other ways to circumvent auto pausing nowadays ;)
23:20:34  <PeterT> XeryusTC: Not really?
23:20:39  <PeterT> Joining with two clients is bannable
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23:21:03  <VictorOfSweden> XeryusTC: i'm not just idling though
23:21:03  <XeryusTC> that still is indeed :o
23:21:28  <XeryusTC> but im too tired to let a joke turn into a discussion atm :o
23:21:30  <PeterT> oh, leave him alone
23:21:31  <VictorOfSweden> XeryusTC: i'm scanning the map for things i can fix
23:21:46  <PeterT> same here
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23:22:21  * KenjiE20 np: Dropkick Murphys - Cadence To Arms
23:22:30  <KenjiE20> I love my random collection
23:22:40  <PeterT> I like dropkicks
23:22:42  <PeterT> I prefer
23:22:49  * PeterT is now listening to: Dropkick Murphys  I'm Shipping Up To Boston
23:23:42  <PublicServer> <Peter> some of this isn't in e-rail
23:23:46  <PublicServer> <Peter> let me convert the entire map
23:24:01  <PublicServer> <Peter> Done
23:24:08  * XeryusTC np: Pendulum - Blood Sugar
23:24:14  <KenjiE20> yea, because that's not stupid
23:24:30  <PeterT> KenjiE20: Do you have Spotify?
23:25:36  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 0007FDFE:
23:26:05  <PeterT> hehe, I converted the entire map starting from the corner, so that's where it made the screen :-)
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23:27:20  <subz> !password
23:27:20  <PublicServer> subz: soared
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23:32:18  <subz> Going along okay, that scenario, but the quality of the railwork is a bit meh :I
23:32:27  <PublicServer> <VictorOfSweden> hey, someone changed the rail type of the plan
23:33:24  <PublicServer> <VictorOfSweden> there we go, back to how it was before
23:33:28  <KenjiE20> because peter's an idiot
23:34:27  <VictorOfSweden> he just dragged convert across the entire map, didn't he
23:34:38  <PeterT> No, you
23:34:44  <KenjiE20> yup
23:35:40  <XeryusTC> could've converted essential maglev networks to elrail!
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23:37:07  <VictorOfSweden> well, i'm off now
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23:37:12  <PublicServer> *** Game paused (not enough players)
23:37:21  <VictorOfSweden> see ya
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23:37:26  <XeryusTC> gn!
23:40:38  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 0007DC3A:
23:41:13  <PeterT> night XeryusTC
23:49:11  <XeryusTC> im not gone :o
23:50:23  <PeterT> oh, I thought that was a gn!
23:58:45  * KenjiE20 np: Disturbed - Rise
23:58:52  * KenjiE20 is glad he switched to headphones
23:58:54  <KenjiE20> :P
23:59:07  * PeterT is now listening to: Eminem  My Mom

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