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Log for #openttdcoop on 9th March 2010:
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00:07:00  <virtual> and now i learned something else new...the entry signal only looks for an exit signal facing trains going out of the block into which the entry signal points
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01:32:40  <Webster> Latest update from blog:  <http://blog.openttdcoop.org/2010/03/09/611/>
01:35:46  <PeterT> V453000: I remeber that PSG!
01:35:51  <PeterT> the one in the first pic ;-)
01:36:06  <V453000> :) 160 isnt that far
01:36:18  <V453000> it was one of the most amazing games for me
01:36:24  <V453000> I really enjoyed that
01:36:35  <PeterT> Really?
01:36:45  <PeterT> Mine was the ICE game a while back
01:36:49  <V453000> :)
01:36:50  <PeterT> when I was newbie
01:37:00  <PeterT> It was amazing, but I still hate ICE
01:39:07  <V453000> :D
01:46:32  <Chris_Booth> ICE rules some times
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01:46:41  <Chris_Booth> jap set now that sucks
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04:30:55  <Razaekel> revue should be review
04:31:01  <Razaekel> learn 2 speel!
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05:41:33  <virtual> !players
05:41:35  <PublicServer> virtual: There are currently no clients connected to the server
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07:40:49  <virtual> !password
07:40:49  <PublicServer> virtual: cranes
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08:15:50  <virtual> so another noob question:  you have two parallel tracks everywhere.  is your entire network two side-by-side independent circuits?  or do they meet somewhere?
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08:20:11  <planetmaker> at the stations
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08:20:26  <planetmaker> and at hubs
08:20:27  <Phazorx> virtual: are thet going in same direction?
08:20:47  <planetmaker> sometimes, depending upon plan and construction style
08:21:18  <virtual> i'm talking specifically about the current public game
08:21:40  <planetmaker> Then I don't know ;-)
08:25:40  <jondisti> virtual: yes they do meet
08:26:49  <PublicServer> <virtual> at SLH maybe?
08:30:27  <jondisti> SLHs, stations, BBHs, MSHs
08:31:03  <PublicServer> <virtual> but i am looking at for example your BBH07b
08:31:16  <PublicServer> <virtual> there is no way to come in on the left track and come out on the right track...is there??
08:32:01  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> not in that case
08:33:01  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> but when train comes from west it can end up in either left or right track
08:33:40  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> no need to mix all directions
08:35:51  <PublicServer> <virtual> is there a way to get the chat to disappear in game?  my screen is filled with words
08:36:09  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> it does that when game is paused
08:36:56  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> dunno if there is a setting for that
08:37:27  <PublicServer> <virtual> adding that to my list of things i want to add to openttd if i ever get around to downloading the source code
08:38:03  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> i guess there has been lots of discussion about it and maybe someone's even working on it
08:38:10  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> :P
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09:00:59  <Webster> Latest update from blog: Advanced Building Revue 01 <http://blog.openttdcoop.org/2010/03/09/611/>
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09:24:38  <Thorinbur> !playercount
09:24:38  <PublicServer> Thorinbur: Number of players: 1
09:24:50  <Thorinbur> Are there trains already?
09:27:10  <Thorinbur> !password
09:27:10  <PublicServer> Thorinbur: deftly
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09:29:57  <planetmaker> !info
09:29:57  <PublicServer> planetmaker: #:1(Orange) Company Name: 'New Hendtown Transport'  Year Founded: 1970  Money: 2731345271  Loan: 0  Value: 2731516167  (T:27, R:0, P:8, S:0) unprotected
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10:16:12  <Ammler> V453000: I don't like articels without images
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10:17:53  <planetmaker> it is one with images?
10:18:06  <Chris_Booth> it doesnt have pop out thumbs
10:18:10  <Chris_Booth> and lots of words
10:23:13  <V453000> Ammler, Chris Booth: advices pls? :)
10:23:23  <V453000> thanks pm for editing
10:24:30  <Ammler> one image should be _before_ <!-- more -->, so it is on the portal
10:25:31  <Ammler> use the shadowbox for the images
10:25:42  <Ammler> check other articels how that is done...
10:25:44  * OwenS`Phone should figure out his blog account's credentials
10:26:03  <Ammler> there should be a "forget password" link
10:26:48  <OwenS`Phone> The accounts age means its possible it has a defunct address
10:29:02  <OwenS`Phone> Im going to guess that yes it is =(
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10:30:09  <V453000> how do I set the image to be opened in the shadowbox? :o
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10:32:15  <V453000> got it
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10:34:01  <planetmaker> bbl. Lunch
10:41:26  <Ammler> OwenS`Phone: I could change the address, pm me your new one...
10:42:40  <OwenS`Phone> Pm is already on it
10:43:22  <OwenS`Phone> (... When he gets back from lunch :p)
10:47:48  <Ammler> @query
10:47:57  <Ammler> @nopm
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11:35:02  <planetmaker> OwenS`Phone, you could have given me your address meanwhile, though ;-)
11:35:16  <planetmaker> oh, nvm. I see the private chat ;-)
11:36:16  <planetmaker> E-Mail address updated, OwenS`Phone
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11:38:02  <Sander_Buruma> !password
11:38:02  <PublicServer> Sander_Buruma: setter
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11:44:46  <Thorinbur> !screen
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11:51:19  <Webster> The third coop bot
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11:59:59  <PublicServer> <Sander_Buruma> will industries grow without engineering supplies?
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12:10:34  <Thorinbur> !screen
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12:12:02  <Thorinbur> !playercount
12:12:02  <PublicServer> Thorinbur: Number of players: 2
12:12:20  <Thorinbur> !password
12:12:21  <PublicServer> Thorinbur: dogmas
12:12:27  <planetmaker> Thorinbur, you asked earlier this morning about trains. There's an easy way to find out:
12:12:28  <planetmaker> !info
12:12:28  <PublicServer> planetmaker: #:1(Orange) Company Name: 'New Hendtown Transport'  Year Founded: 1970  Money: 2731345271  Loan: 0  Value: 2731516167  (T:27, R:0, P:8, S:0) unprotected
12:12:44  <Thorinbur> thanks
12:13:07  <Thorinbur> I entered the game and check for myself.
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12:13:27  <Thorinbur> !password
12:13:27  <PublicServer> Thorinbur: detest
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12:15:34  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> I have no idea how to build stations at MSH05
12:16:26  <PublicServer> <Sander_Buruma> im looking it over
12:16:31  <PublicServer> <Sander_Buruma> looking over it
12:16:36  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> espetially that atm there are two exit lanes
12:17:03  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> and each goes diff direction
12:17:11  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> so it alsoi needs some mixing
12:17:40  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> I think rest of MS 4 should be build S from MSH 04
12:19:36  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> At MSH 05 there is space only for one station at taht flat mountain top, still pretty hard to build itself
12:19:45  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> and we still have to stick there pick up
12:20:04  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> and drop here should be the bigest in the game...
12:20:22  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> i cargos going there
12:20:31  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> *5
12:20:50  <PublicServer> <Sander_Buruma> it is intended to be a big drop?
12:20:51  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> that was mistake to leave it ti the end
12:21:03  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> well 5 cargos will be dropped there
12:21:12  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> so in my opinion it should be quite big
12:21:17  <PublicServer> <Sander_Buruma> I just joined the game today and only started thinking about it a hour ago
12:21:39  <PublicServer> <Sander_Buruma> trying to interpret the network plan
12:22:06  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> acoring to the conwersation near that MSH there will be iron, coal, scrap, parts, packaging drop
12:22:55  <PublicServer> <Sander_Buruma> not too much editing of the landscape i suppose?
12:23:10  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> no, we try to keep the lanscape
12:24:11  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> I am afraid Chrises station will need to be demolished, but 1. it's not my call, 2 lets at least try to fit MS 5 in there before
12:24:22  <PublicServer> <Sander_Buruma> I wonder how it is possible to maintain the landscape if you want to build a massive station here
12:24:29  <V453000> hi guys
12:24:34  <PublicServer> <Sander_Buruma> hey V
12:24:35  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> Hi V.
12:24:51  <V453000> the 5 drop should be as big as any other LL_RR drop
12:25:04  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> ...
12:25:07  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> yeah remember
12:25:30  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> it's not the cargo, but the track connecting to the station that matters
12:25:42  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> heh... You already told me that
12:25:44  <V453000> :
12:25:46  <V453000> :)
12:26:05  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> still its not much space in there
12:26:06  <PublicServer> <Sander_Buruma> it's not the cargo? I'm not sure what cargo refers to here
12:26:10  <V453000> then you have 2 options ... balance the merging of tracks or balanced station entry
12:26:50  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> and two pickups to fit in there
12:26:55  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> 3 stations total
12:27:15  <V453000> pickups can be small
12:27:21  <V453000> see 03
12:27:25  <V453000> the southern
12:27:36  <V453000> !password
12:27:36  <PublicServer> V453000: detest
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12:28:07  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> 3 platforms for good?
12:28:14  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> *cargo
12:28:48  <PublicServer> <V453000> it is the not-conditional overflow I talked about a while ago
12:29:09  <PublicServer> <Sander_Buruma> I missed that discourse
12:29:19  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> trains always goes trought depot
12:29:26  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes
12:29:33  <PublicServer> <V453000> and the depot has a certain throughput
12:29:42  <PublicServer> <Sander_Buruma> right
12:29:47  <PublicServer> <V453000> so it is unlikely that more than 3 platforms will fill
12:29:55  <PublicServer> <Sander_Buruma> like 2 depots with a piece of pbs signal in front
12:30:01  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> :]
12:30:09  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> get that and conditional is?
12:30:23  <PublicServer> <V453000> conditional is brewery food pickup
12:30:24  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> something you build at bakery?
12:30:25  <PublicServer> <Sander_Buruma> not conditional
12:30:27  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> :]
12:30:59  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> so this is doable
12:31:15  <PublicServer> <V453000> it will still be hell
12:31:36  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> if that forest and paper mill would die..
12:31:41  <PublicServer> <V453000> the merges still need huge area
12:32:01  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> well it can fit there without them dying
12:32:11  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> yeah 4 exits 4 entrances
12:32:46  <PublicServer> <V453000> we have two options
12:32:58  <PublicServer> <V453000> to merge the lines and then try to make compact stations
12:33:03  <PublicServer> <V453000> or not to merge them at all
12:33:10  <PublicServer> <V453000> and make a minor station for each
12:33:20  <PublicServer> <V453000> I am not sure how would that turn out though
12:33:48  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> hard not to merge exits
12:33:57  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> as each goes diff dir
12:34:02  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> and outer ML is one way
12:34:29  <PublicServer> <V453000> it has nothing to do with the outer ML, does it?
12:35:09  <Sander_Buruma> it isnt going to be connected to the outer ML at all?
12:35:18  <Sander_Buruma> or atleast directly
12:35:26  <PublicServer> <V453000> well through the msh
12:35:38  <Sander_Buruma> but not directly
12:36:07  <PublicServer> <V453000> of course not
12:36:21  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> in my opinion bigest problem is exit
12:36:31  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> even when you do minor stations for both entrances
12:36:34  <PublicServer> <Sander_Buruma> there isnt one yet as far as i can seee
12:36:40  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> both must be micxed to both exits
12:36:45  <PublicServer> <V453000> lets try to stuff it into the hole
12:36:46  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> MSH05
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12:37:02  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> mixing?
12:37:14  <OwenS`Phone> planetmaker: Thanks
12:38:18  <PublicServer> <V453000> we can use kinda local SML
12:40:24  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> why that reversed two way PBS?
12:40:33  <PublicServer> <V453000> penalty?
12:40:38  <PublicServer> <Sander_Buruma> causes trains to avoid that trick
12:40:38  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> ok
12:40:40  <PublicServer> <Sander_Buruma> track*
12:40:54  <PublicServer> <Sander_Buruma> unless alternative rails are occupied
12:41:39  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> hmm but the lines are already mixed
12:41:40  <PublicServer> <V453000> *brain processing*
12:41:57  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> we need to mix only both exiits, not lines themselve
12:41:58  <PublicServer> <V453000> well ... mixed ... this way the station would be LLLL_RRRR
12:42:41  <PublicServer> <V453000> you need some joiners still
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12:43:02  <V453000> !password
12:43:02  <PublicServer> V453000: forded
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12:43:55  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> those two lines you mixed there are already mixed at the MSH i dont know why to mix them again
12:44:05  <PublicServer> <V453000> I am not mixing them
12:44:18  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> ok i fell stupid
12:44:40  <PublicServer> <Sander_Buruma> me too
12:44:48  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> why that choice than?
12:45:01  <PublicServer> <V453000> it is not a choice
12:45:07  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> or whatever it is
12:45:20  <PublicServer> <V453000> not to balance the join?
12:45:22  <PublicServer> <V453000> save space?
12:45:48  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> ok... now it makes sence
12:46:06  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> you try to fir as many trains as you can on that outer line
12:46:27  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> so you can join to the inner
12:46:37  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> without providint the choice
12:46:54  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> is that true?
12:47:07  <PublicServer> <V453000> basically probably yes
12:48:02  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> ok i'm just gonna watch and learn
12:48:09  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> some interesting solutions there
12:48:18  <PublicServer> <V453000> quite dirty though
12:48:33  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> well solutions to low space problem
12:48:38  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
12:50:03  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> how many exit lines there will be? o.O You already got 6 :P
12:50:19  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> and not every lane goes every direction.
12:50:31  <PublicServer> <V453000> could you just wait till I finish ? :D
12:50:35  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> :]
12:50:39  <PublicServer> <Sander_Buruma> im already scared by the spaghetti
12:52:10  <PublicServer> <V453000> hmph
12:52:18  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> making some space for you
12:52:27  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
12:53:32  <PublicServer> <Sander_Buruma> holding on to my chair as I watch
12:53:48  <Sasakura_> !password
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13:01:01  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> have to test it... don't believe myself:P
13:01:26  <PublicServer> <V453000> the prios were backwards
13:02:06  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> thats why i test it:P
13:02:28  <PublicServer> <V453000> just feel free to ask next time :)
13:02:52  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> well i know how it should work and look just sometimes make mistake:]
13:02:54  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> want to be sure
13:03:26  <PublicServer> <V453000> by that you can see how the prio behaves
13:03:34  <PublicServer> <V453000> when the actual entry signal is backwards
13:03:48  <PublicServer> <V453000> but ofc it is also visible on the combo
13:04:19  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> yeah i ws looking at the combo
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13:08:16  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> spaghetti FTW
13:08:56  <PublicServer> <V453000> well I got 3 exits
13:09:07  <PublicServer> <V453000> I think that is ok
13:09:56  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> i wonder if now each lane got equal prio and if it will be balaced properly
13:10:21  <PublicServer> <Sander_Buruma> if V builds it its perfect
13:10:40  <PublicServer> <V453000> I wouldnt say that
13:10:49  <PublicServer> <V453000> but I think it will work good enough
13:12:28  <PublicServer> <V453000> awww
13:12:29  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> hm west merge at the MSH don't have choices
13:12:30  <PublicServer> <V453000> steep
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13:12:58  <PublicServer> <V453000> remaking the merge is ok
13:14:59  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> are there shortcuts to different signal types?
13:15:09  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> to quicly switch between tham
13:15:12  <PublicServer> <V453000> I dont know about them if there are
13:15:17  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> or you have to cycle with ctrl?
13:15:27  <PublicServer> <V453000> you can turn on the signal GUI
13:15:28  <PublicServer> <Sander_Buruma> cycle with ctrl
13:15:43  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> i know it turns on when you press s
13:16:00  <PublicServer> <V453000> it doesnt if you have it turned off in the menu :p
13:16:23  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> but i hoped for some quick way to switch like with "q" "w" "e"
13:18:58  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> V.: Are you going to finish Chrises station as well?
13:19:07  <PublicServer> <V453000> no why
13:19:10  <PublicServer> <Sander_Buruma> south of V's site?
13:19:34  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> I know it is SIP but Chris said yesterday that it is free to finish
13:19:43  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> at least thats what i understood
13:19:51  <PublicServer> <V453000> hmm
13:20:33  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> Me:  But no sooner than your workers will stop it';s strike so?? Is there a chance for it today?
13:21:02  <PublicServer> <V453000> the strike is very lethal there
13:21:03  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> Chris_B00th> other people can build my strike
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13:22:21  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> so by other people can finish my strike i understand anyone can finish this station
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13:22:45  <PublicServer> <V453000> sure
13:23:19  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> wathing you building is realy amazing.
13:23:28  <PublicServer> <V453000> wow thanks :)
13:23:31  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> everything shows up so quick:P
13:24:02  <PublicServer> <Sander_Buruma> hotkey gymnastics
13:24:12  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> i use HK too
13:24:17  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> a lot. Much quicker
13:24:26  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> still i have to think before almost every move
13:24:42  <PublicServer> <V453000> well if you are slower with keys then somthing is very wrong :D
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13:25:06  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> "do i need to move it one tile, maby leave space there for prio or another lane
13:25:17  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> and so
13:25:38  <PublicServer> <Sander_Buruma> oh the joy of doubt and long contemplation
13:25:40  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> and at the end i end up demolishing what i build even i thought it will be good
13:25:46  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> :]
13:26:04  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> and i need to learn to build signals along with tracks
13:26:19  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> not trucks. than finish off signals when it is done
13:26:31  <PublicServer> <Sander_Buruma> you used to use trucks???
13:26:31  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> *tracks
13:27:14  <PublicServer> <V453000> well when you build the track you build the signalling at the same time, you should think about both
13:27:54  <PublicServer> <Sander_Buruma> cant you remove those with ctrl click?
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13:28:05  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> just don't like switching between tracks and signals (i know "a" "s", but still )
13:28:06  <PublicServer> <Sander_Buruma> signs
13:28:11  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> no
13:28:16  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> but you can press "r"
13:28:21  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> to enable removing
13:28:30  <PublicServer> <Sander_Buruma> I just use ctrl + click to remove signs
13:28:31  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> (when signals are active)
13:28:34  <PublicServer> <Sander_Buruma> (not track signals)
13:28:40  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> ach
13:28:45  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> signs
13:28:48  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> not signals
13:28:55  <PublicServer> <Sander_Buruma> yes :)
13:29:03  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> ^^ works
13:29:06  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> nice
13:29:24  <PublicServer> <V453000> ok
13:29:25  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> every day you learn something new:]
13:29:35  <PublicServer> <V453000> exit and entry lines are done
13:29:40  <PublicServer> <V453000> now the stations
13:29:45  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> now the station itself
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13:30:02  <PublicServer> <V453000> for the drops we need a style as Glass Works etc. drop
13:30:09  <PublicServer> <Sander_Buruma> mmm...
13:30:27  <PublicServer> <V453000> well
13:30:30  <PublicServer> <V453000> I will get some lunch now
13:30:34  <PublicServer> <V453000> then I will be back
13:30:38  <PublicServer> <Sander_Buruma> any obvious way to find the correct station graphics?
13:30:39  <PublicServer> <V453000> feel free to begin
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13:30:47  <PublicServer> <Sander_Buruma> eat well and be nourished V
13:30:54  <PublicServer> <V453000> :D thx
13:31:04  <Drunkzilla> hi
13:31:08  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> hi
13:31:11  <PublicServer> <V453000> hey Drunkard
13:31:12  <PublicServer> <V453000> cool nick
13:31:17  <Drunkzilla> diky :)
13:31:23  <PublicServer> <V453000> aha :)
13:31:54  <Drunkzilla> vsiml sem si, ze si taky CZ, coz je gut.. asi te vyuziju.. pokud bys byl ochotny se podelit o nejake rady atd :)
13:32:02  <V453000> jistě
13:32:15  <Drunkzilla> super
13:32:45  <Ammler> is jiste a cz beer label?
13:33:15  <V453000> Ammler: yes we are all alcoholics :D
13:33:19  <V453000> no that isnt beer label
13:33:20  <PublicServer> <Sander_Buruma> I can't find the correct station graphics
13:33:22  <V453000> that is "sure"
13:33:26  <Drunkzilla> Nooo.. alkohol is baad! :D
13:33:45  <PublicServer> <Sander_Buruma> Alcohol makes you lame, being drunk on the holy spirit is smart
13:34:04  <Drunkzilla> Sander_Buruma:  eh.. :d
13:34:23  <PublicServer> <Sander_Buruma> the spirit that came down on the apostles at pentecost
13:34:37  <Ammler> [14:33] <Drunkzilla> Nooo.. alkohol is baad!  <-- then you should drink it, else we need ;-)
13:35:07  <Drunkzilla> Sander_Buruma: Amen ^^
13:36:27  <Drunkzilla> Ammler: I'm going to pub tonigh.. don't you worry :d
13:36:34  <PublicServer> <V453000> 2 or 3 should be pickups probably
13:36:36  <Ammler> thanks in advance
13:36:54  <Ammler> drink one "of" us
13:37:04  <PublicServer> <V453000> :D
13:37:30  <PublicServer> <V453000> I am not going to pub till friday :(
13:37:35  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> wont it beter if  3 would end diagonaly?
13:37:44  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> like this?
13:38:05  <PublicServer> <V453000> probably not
13:38:12  <PublicServer> <V453000> I want them spread as muc has possible
13:38:20  <PublicServer> <V453000> to keep the most space available
13:38:22  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> i am afraid about that drop
13:38:29  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> :P
13:38:50  <PublicServer> <V453000> I will try to stuff it there later
13:38:59  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> wow
13:39:07  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> wha tthe hell?
13:39:25  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> looks interesting but its. CPU waste:P
13:39:35  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> well there are no trains now
13:39:45  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> but why?
13:40:09  <PublicServer> <V453000> ?
13:40:18  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> add signals
13:40:47  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> V: !CPU Waste
13:41:00  <Drunkzilla> !password
13:41:00  <PublicServer> Drunkzilla: swerve
13:41:01  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> i know just maked it for V :P
13:41:26  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> haha
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13:41:34  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> its bugged
13:41:43  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> no signals at the tunels exit
13:41:55  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> ok now a little better
13:42:31  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> lol
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13:43:13  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> new general store just build exactly where we have it's drop
13:43:23  <PublicServer> <V453000> testing
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13:43:26  <PublicServer> <V453000> is k
13:43:41  <PublicServer> <V453000> btw PBS will work much better
13:43:50  <PublicServer> <Sander_Buruma> why are these trains acting stupid
13:43:58  <PublicServer> <Sander_Buruma> all trying the same tunnel
13:44:12  <PublicServer> <V453000> add orders
13:44:16  <PublicServer> <V453000> just some waypoint
13:44:25  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> lol
13:44:33  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> tunel doestn work:[
13:44:47  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> but it can stay:P
13:45:36  <PublicServer> <V453000> 2ways are deffinitely better
13:45:40  <PublicServer> <V453000> and you got a CL 1 there
13:45:43  <PublicServer> <V453000> in the end
13:45:49  <PublicServer> <Sander_Buruma> :S
13:46:18  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> wait
13:46:40  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> didn't you turned off going back from red light?
13:46:51  <PublicServer> <Sander_Buruma> hopefully
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13:47:09  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> ... it is on again
13:47:12  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> look
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13:47:43  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> hmm no
13:47:44  <PublicServer> <Sander_Buruma> no train trying to go back
13:47:51  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> it was because of missing track
13:48:44  <PublicServer> <V453000> lol
13:49:28  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> i see major jam
13:49:44  <PublicServer> <Sander_Buruma> oh goody the world will end...
13:50:04  <PublicServer> <V453000> u chose pretty bad trains :D
13:50:25  <PublicServer> <Sander_Buruma> thanks for the compliment I feel so much better about being alive
13:52:13  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> someone will check now and see 37 trains? Wow we are adding trains?
13:52:14  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> :P
13:52:24  <PublicServer> <V453000> ...
13:52:39  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> and rush to the serwer to see: a loop with tunels
13:54:10  <PublicServer> <V453000> wait
13:54:19  <PublicServer> <V453000> you had non electric rail
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13:54:40  <V453000> I electrified it for you
13:54:49  <V453000> now add the similar trains as are in the trainyard
13:54:54  <V453000> for good performance
13:55:03  <V453000> add 3 or 4 to the TL5 train
13:55:24  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> bridges over bridges is that posible?
13:55:30  <V453000> always build electrified btw
13:55:38  <V453000> Thorinbur: it is
13:55:43  <V453000> but only in some cases
13:55:51  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> but crossing over
13:55:54  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> but paralel
13:55:56  <V453000> I will lshow you later
13:55:58  <V453000> oh
13:55:59  <V453000> no
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13:58:24  <V453000> !password
13:58:25  <PublicServer> V453000: drench
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13:59:33  <PublicServer> <V453000> hehe
13:59:37  <PublicServer> <V453000> that doesnt work
13:59:44  <PublicServer> <V453000> I dont know why though :)
13:59:57  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> what doesnt work?
14:00:01  <PublicServer> <V453000> the tunnels
14:00:06  <PublicServer> <V453000> train slow in the exit
14:00:24  <PublicServer> <V453000> stop one in front of the tunnels
14:00:28  <PublicServer> <V453000> then release them again
14:00:44  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> prio was too short
14:01:10  <PublicServer> <V453000> no, the prio doesnt influence that
14:01:18  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> joining trains
14:01:35  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> stopped traffic and stoped some trains in the tunells
14:01:36  <PublicServer> <V453000> it could only influence that there are too many trains
14:01:38  <PublicServer> <V453000> but there arent
14:01:55  <PublicServer> <V453000> use more aggresive signalling in diagonals
14:01:59  <PublicServer> <V453000> that will help
14:03:14  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> whre you should put signals at diagonals? inner or outer side of curve? or no matter
14:03:15  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> lol
14:03:26  <PublicServer> <V453000> no matter
14:03:30  <PublicServer> <V453000> just aggressive
14:03:33  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> and now we debug CPU waster instead of building stations
14:03:50  <PublicServer> <V453000> it is not cpu waster
14:03:53  <PublicServer> <V453000> but testing area
14:04:02  <PublicServer> <V453000> learn to recognize that
14:04:02  <PublicServer> <Sander_Buruma> I was trying to understand this tunnel system to hopefully implement at the spaghetti that V made
14:04:21  <PublicServer> <Sander_Buruma> still trying
14:04:40  <PublicServer> <V453000> ïf I needed it I would have used it fear not
14:05:04  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> hmm...
14:05:21  <Thorinbur> @gap
14:05:21  <Webster> Thorinbur: (gap <trainlength> [<split>]) -- Returns minimum and maximum signal gap sizes for 2,3 and 4 linesplits with <trainlength>. If <spilt> is given it will return the the gap sizes for <split> (+/-) 1.
14:05:26  <Thorinbur> @gap 3
14:05:26  <Webster> Thorinbur: For Trainlength of 3: < 9 needs 2, 10 - 14 needs 3, 15 - 19 needs 4.
14:05:52  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> hmm upper tunels alone should be enought
14:05:53  <PublicServer> <V453000> lol
14:07:05  <PublicServer> <V453000> delete one train
14:07:33  <PublicServer> <V453000> or make a compressor
14:07:53  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> wow compresor. Never build one, but those are funny
14:08:03  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> told you upper will do
14:08:22  <PublicServer> <V453000> haah
14:08:27  <PublicServer> <V453000> fail
14:08:39  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> lol
14:08:44  <PublicServer> <Sander_Buruma> not anymore
14:08:52  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> gap 8+10
14:09:01  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> and it works
14:09:10  <PublicServer> <V453000> suer
14:09:17  <PublicServer> <V453000> it works the same as before
14:09:26  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> wow
14:09:35  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> this is actualy prety interesting
14:09:52  <PublicServer> <V453000> the most important thing is they are sync
14:09:53  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> maybe because TL is 2,5
14:09:54  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> :P
14:10:13  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> gap more than 9 should need 3 tunels
14:10:27  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> more  and equal
14:11:28  <PublicServer> <Sander_Buruma> what about this mosnter gap
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14:11:52  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> will that work for other TL's and gaps ( i mean one tunel shorter than max gap by one , and one tulen longer by one?
14:12:01  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> *tunel
14:12:03  <PublicServer> <Sander_Buruma> trying TL 5
14:12:24  <Thorinbur> @gap 5
14:12:24  <Webster> Thorinbur: For Trainlength of 5: < 11 needs 2, 12 - 18 needs 3, 19 - 25 needs 4.
14:13:02  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> try gaps 10 + 12
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14:13:09  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> later
14:14:07  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> lol
14:14:10  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> missed!
14:14:18  <PublicServer> <V453000> still cl 4
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14:16:18  <PublicServer> <V453000> btw no TL5 for Mlev
14:16:28  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> lol
14:16:43  <PublicServer> <Sander_Buruma> ??
14:16:51  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> should we downgrade to electric?
14:17:03  <PublicServer> <V453000> I would rather say upgrade
14:17:12  <PublicServer> <Sander_Buruma> done
14:17:13  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> downgrade
14:17:16  <PublicServer> <V453000> up
14:17:19  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> ...
14:17:21  <PublicServer> <V453000> erail >maglev
14:17:22  <PublicServer> <Sander_Buruma> up
14:17:29  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> ...
14:17:42  <PublicServer> <Sander_Buruma> altough I disagree with that statement
14:17:50  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> well maglev is newer
14:18:00  <PublicServer> <V453000> I dont care what is newer :D
14:18:09  <PublicServer> <V453000> erail has better performance overall
14:18:10  <PublicServer> <Sander_Buruma> and faster
14:18:26  <PublicServer> <V453000> and sucking mostly
14:18:29  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> why you use maglevs in your games sometimes?
14:18:38  <PublicServer> <V453000> in my games?
14:18:41  <PublicServer> <V453000> or in coop?
14:18:42  <PublicServer> <Sander_Buruma> not in Vs games
14:18:51  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> openttdcoop games
14:19:05  <PublicServer> <V453000> well it is fun sometimes
14:19:14  <PublicServer> <V453000> and it is challenging
14:19:33  <PublicServer> <V453000> trains with terrible acceleration are a challenge indeed
14:19:54  <PublicServer> <V453000> (japan set for example)
14:19:54  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> if you press CTRL when draging signals it will build around the curves
14:20:01  <Ammler> dbset has both, ICE and transrapid :-)
14:20:13  <PublicServer> <V453000> transrapid is too kickass :D
14:20:14  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> all the way to the end or closest crossing
14:20:19  <PublicServer> <Sander_Buruma> alright
14:20:31  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> heh dont believe me?
14:20:50  <PublicServer> <Sander_Buruma> I just tried it out :D
14:20:51  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> funn huh?
14:20:54  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> :]
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14:21:06  <PublicServer> <V453000> you have to correct it in curves though
14:21:13  <PublicServer> <V453000> as there it leaves gaps often
14:21:22  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> really?
14:21:35  <PublicServer> <V453000> yep
14:21:46  <PublicServer> <V453000> see?
14:22:01  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> is it really gap?
14:22:06  <PublicServer> <V453000> i is
14:22:10  <PublicServer> <V453000> the same on the left side
14:22:19  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> hmm...
14:22:25  <PublicServer> <V453000> the one on the left is more serious actually
14:22:44  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> than all my rails got it o.O
14:22:57  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
14:23:07  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> is it because diagonal rail is (sqrt(2)) long?
14:23:17  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> so the gap is 1+sqrt(2)?
14:23:20  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> :P
14:23:25  <PublicServer> <V453000> diagonal rail does just weird things
14:23:29  <PublicServer> <V453000> as trains are longer there
14:23:46  <PublicServer> <V453000> but here you have "1.5" regular plus the effect of weird diagonal
14:24:09  <PublicServer> <V453000> which will rape your ass to heaven in higher traffic
14:24:14  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> i dont know if it really is gap
14:24:29  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> haw it would be signaled right than?
14:24:41  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> every tile on diagonal?
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14:25:11  <PublicServer> <V453000> well the more the better
14:25:20  <PublicServer> <V453000> basically...
14:25:56  <PublicServer> <Spike> wouldn't PBS be better @ those tunnels?
14:26:08  <PublicServer> <Spike> and put penalties at the first
14:26:10  <PublicServer> <V453000> I think so Spike
14:26:32  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> presignal at the entrance
14:26:34  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> :P
14:26:51  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> lol?
14:27:04  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> and combosignal at the main line
14:27:11  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> (it was presignal before
14:27:28  <PublicServer> <Spike> presigs is better... but..
14:27:31  <PublicServer> <Spike> exit sucks :)
14:27:49  <PublicServer> <Spike> too many trains.. :/
14:28:04  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> cos prio was broken
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14:28:59  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> lol? Two way PBS also got crossed back?
14:29:16  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> it is now (prio)
14:29:25  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> i changed:
14:29:37  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> normal signal to presignal at the entrance
14:29:56  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> and presignal to combo signal at ML where they join
14:30:51  <Sander_Buruma> is there a compactor wiki / tutorial thing somewhere?
14:31:08  <Thorinbur> @wici compressor
14:31:13  <Thorinbur> @wiki compressor
14:31:17  <Webster> Compressor - #openttdcoop Wiki - http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Special:Search?go=Go&search=compressor
14:31:28  <roboboy> gnight
14:32:19  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> hmm i might try to build one. But i don't want to copy example
14:32:33  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> i know the method, just need to develope the constuction
14:32:56  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> i know it is reinventing the wheel but it's more sun that way
14:33:05  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> *fun
14:34:04  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> the gap betwen moving trains is 2 right?
14:36:04  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> i think i will need not gate...
14:36:07  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> hmm...
14:36:12  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> let me think
14:36:33  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> reinventing a wheel is hard even when you know what it does
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14:39:31  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> can i brake the flow?
14:39:36  <PublicServer> <Sander_Buruma> sure
14:39:39  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> it wont work too soon:P
14:39:55  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> \there is no logic yet
14:40:09  <PublicServer> <V453000> you need longer gaps there
14:40:30  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> what is proper gap between moving trains?
14:40:37  <PublicServer> <V453000> for TL5?
14:40:41  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> yeah?
14:40:43  <PublicServer> <V453000> 5 tiles
14:40:48  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> 5 tiles?
14:40:50  <PublicServer> <V453000> or they will jam up in curves
14:40:53  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> even compresed?
14:40:58  <PublicServer> <V453000> on straight it can be shorter
14:41:00  <PublicServer> <V453000> in curves not
14:41:31  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> 5?
14:41:35  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> really?
14:41:40  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes really
14:41:41  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> lol
14:41:44  <PublicServer> <V453000>  I have it tested
14:41:51  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> you are ight
14:41:53  <PublicServer> <V453000> not other TLs but with TL5 I am sure
14:41:56  <PublicServer> <V453000> just try it
14:42:08  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> i can see that at tunell exits
14:42:43  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> 5 tiles than
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14:48:12  <PublicServer> <V453000> /waves bye
14:48:21  <PublicServer> * V453000 :D
14:48:33  <V453000> forgot myself :<
14:48:35  <PublicServer> <Sander_Buruma> your going?
14:48:37  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> you are also leaving V?
14:49:31  <PublicServer> <V453000> no
14:49:36  <PublicServer> <V453000> was waving to Spike
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14:52:33  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> not its time for logix
14:52:37  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> logic
14:54:26  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> you jammed my compersor:P
14:54:27  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> lol
14:54:42  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> :P
14:54:43  <PublicServer> <Sander_Buruma> funny factory
14:54:44  <PublicServer> <V453000> why dont you disconnect it then
14:55:16  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> lol
14:55:33  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> i thought you are trying to flood factory
14:55:46  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> than realised you cant
14:55:47  <PublicServer> <Sander_Buruma> I wish
14:56:01  <PublicServer> <Sander_Buruma> you can flood factories, they just got to be build inside water
14:56:08  <PublicServer> <Sander_Buruma> on water level
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15:01:41  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> great
15:01:54  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> now NOT gate
15:02:34  <PublicServer> <V453000> there you go
15:02:47  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> thanks
15:02:50  <PublicServer> <V453000> np
15:03:56  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> doesnt it need train to work?
15:04:02  <PublicServer> <V453000> 2 trains
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15:04:05  <PublicServer> <Sander_Buruma> yes
15:04:24  <PublicServer> <Sander_Buruma> maglev is popular for those kind of things
15:04:31  <whitequark> !password
15:04:31  <PublicServer> whitequark: malice
15:04:32  <PublicServer> <V453000> not here
15:04:40  <PublicServer> <V453000> here is better a very slow train
15:05:03  <PublicServer> <V453000> as it reduces the probability that it will fail
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15:05:23  <PublicServer> <Sander_Buruma> mmmmmmm...
15:05:33  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> could you add trains?
15:05:46  <whitequark> can OTTD use more than one processor?
15:06:06  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> whitequark: i don't think so
15:06:31  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> V: could you add a train to the not gate?
15:06:36  <PublicServer> <whitequark> PS160 final is incredibly slow on my 1.66 Atom
15:07:13  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> or at least tell me witch loco to use
15:07:36  <PublicServer> <V453000> this is pretty solid
15:08:20  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> hmmm...
15:08:30  <PublicServer> <V453000> 160 shouldnt be that slow
15:09:00  <PublicServer> <whitequark> oh i meant 126
15:09:21  <V453000> @psgsave 126
15:09:22  <Webster> PSG 126 Archive entry; http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/PublicServer:Archive_-_Games_121_-_130#gameid_126
15:09:39  <V453000> oh yes :D
15:09:42  <Giddorah> !password
15:09:42  <PublicServer> Giddorah: malice
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15:10:14  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> hmm i think i messed input and output
15:10:31  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> or somethink
15:10:37  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> it doesnt work
15:10:56  <PublicServer> <V453000> you didnt connect the output yet
15:10:57  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> oh
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15:11:13  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> ??
15:11:17  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> ...
15:11:18  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> leave
15:11:26  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> i just test the gate
15:11:27  <PublicServer> <V453000> and I recommend to do this
15:11:36  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> why?
15:11:43  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> hmm
15:11:52  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> ...
15:12:10  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> i wanted to work this out alone
15:12:15  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
15:12:16  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> and i already did...
15:12:25  <PublicServer> <Sander_Buruma> it was already functional?
15:12:30  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> no
15:12:35  <bork> May I ask what the current gametype is?
15:12:38  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> i didn't conected output
15:12:44  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> i was still testing not gate
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15:12:51  <PublicServer> <V453000> bork: Cargo mainly
15:12:54  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> cos it had really slow reaction time
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15:13:09  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> I wanna take a dump on my ISP
15:13:09  <bork> Righto. I may pop in when I'm home from work.
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15:13:13  <PublicServer> <Sander_Buruma> we'r still talking about the testing area i hope
15:13:21  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> see?
15:13:22  <bork> (newb here, will merely observe)
15:13:27  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> it trigers really slow
15:13:35  <PublicServer> <V453000> it has to be slow
15:13:43  <PublicServer> <Sander_Buruma> I don't know what you mean with output
15:13:44  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> both input and ouutput red
15:13:55  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> switched for a sec
15:14:07  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> it will work here but still..
15:14:18  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> this is not proper not gate
15:14:31  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> only trigers for a sec
15:14:55  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> What are you trying to do?
15:15:03  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> i am building compresor
15:15:15  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> from scratch and without template:P
15:15:19  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Cool :)
15:16:10  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> shit i need more space:P
15:16:19  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> on the other hand
15:16:54  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> too slow bridges!
15:17:16  <PublicServer> <V453000> these do affect it lol?
15:17:28  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> nope
15:17:34  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> i wanted to bridge exit
15:17:40  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> gap 3 would be ok
15:17:46  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> but bridge is too slow
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15:18:03  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> i need to either move compresor or tunels
15:18:15  <PublicServer> <Sander_Buruma> tunnels can be moved
15:20:20  <PublicServer> <Sander_Buruma> or for that matter removed since their purpose seems done
15:20:27  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> nope
15:20:50  <PublicServer> <Sander_Buruma> dont want them removed?
15:21:09  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> not yet
15:21:15  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> trains or compresor
15:23:03  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Hmm?
15:23:15  <PublicServer> <Sander_Buruma> im trying something
15:23:23  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> You the tunneling guy? :P
15:23:28  <PublicServer> <Sander_Buruma> yes
15:25:22  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> no need to move them
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15:25:30  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> oh you are trying something new?
15:25:47  <PublicServer> <Sander_Buruma> yes
15:26:36  <PublicServer> <Sander_Buruma> im hoping this wont jam at all
15:26:43  <Giddorah_> !gap 3 58
15:26:44  <PublicServer> Giddorah_: You need 12 tunnels/bridges for trainlength 3 and gap 58.
15:26:51  <PublicServer> <V453000> it is unsync
15:27:02  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Hmm... Publicserver doesn't work?
15:27:08  <PublicServer> <V453000> ?
15:27:09  <PublicServer> <Sander_Buruma> works great for me
15:27:12  <Giddorah_> Hey
15:27:25  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Weird.. Shouldn't it paste the gap-message too?
15:27:36  <V453000> @gap
15:27:37  <Webster> V453000: (gap <trainlength> [<split>]) -- Returns minimum and maximum signal gap sizes for 2,3 and 4 linesplits with <trainlength>. If <spilt> is given it will return the the gap sizes for <split> (+/-) 1.
15:27:45  <Giddorah_> !gap 3 58
15:27:45  <PublicServer> Giddorah_: You need 12 tunnels/bridges for trainlength 3 and gap 58.
15:28:04  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> "Return the the gap sizes" :P
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15:29:25  <Seberoth> hello all
15:29:31  <PublicServer> <V453000> hi
15:30:32  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> How much difference does syncing do?
15:30:43  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> test it:]
15:30:44  <PublicServer> <V453000> a lot under high traffic
15:30:55  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> I'll test it locally some time :)
15:30:58  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> V: Aight :)
15:33:30  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> ok ready to test it
15:34:04  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> shouldn't there be looong prio for ML there?
15:34:11  <PublicServer> <Sander_Buruma> yes
15:34:20  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> and releasing only when ML is empty
15:34:25  <PublicServer> <V453000> if you regulate yourself there isnt needed any
15:34:38  <PublicServer> <Sander_Buruma> mmm k
15:34:51  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> we will see how it will work
15:35:47  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Missed a letter :P
15:35:52  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> no
15:35:56  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> not enought space
15:36:02  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> so i made shortcut
15:37:34  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> shit
15:37:37  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> too small gap
15:37:38  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> still
15:37:54  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> thay are slowing down at the curve
15:37:59  <PublicServer> <Sander_Buruma> yea
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15:38:22  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> fail
15:39:05  <PublicServer> <Sander_Buruma> fear not valiant Thorinbur, persistance be with you
15:40:26  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> it ALMOST works
15:40:33  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> bt 1
15:40:36  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> but:
15:40:37  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> 1.
15:40:40  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> gap is 4
15:40:41  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> not 5
15:41:13  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> and 2. new portion shuldn't be released until previous left
15:42:05  <PublicServer> <V453000> if you want help with that see psg 131
15:42:19  <PublicServer> <V453000> there are detailed comments
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15:43:30  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> ok gap fixed
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15:44:25  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> hmm i need FAST not gate
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15:44:49  <PublicServer> <V453000> no you dont
15:45:52  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> i wont to make sure they wont get released until previous left
15:46:07  <PublicServer> <Sander_Buruma> seems like its doing that at the moment
15:46:17  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> not always
15:46:30  <PublicServer> <Sander_Buruma> ah...
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15:46:41  <PublicServer> <V453000> you need another not for that
15:46:47  <PublicServer> <V453000> but not faster
15:46:49  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> and fast one
15:46:58  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> cos your trigers only for a sec
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15:47:04  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> and after some time
15:47:15  <PublicServer> <V453000> it has to be after some time
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15:47:28  <PublicServer> <V453000> if it was instantly, then the last train wouldnt even stop
15:47:36  <PublicServer> <V453000> therefore would run away from the others
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15:50:21  <V453000> !password
15:50:21  <PublicServer> V453000: consul
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15:50:56  <V453000> go die
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15:52:49  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> damn... and gate also was quite difficult
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15:58:06  <V453000> !password
15:58:06  <PublicServer> V453000: consul
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15:59:05  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> This is turning out to becoming a large compressor :P
15:59:31  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> no i was just testing why they slow down
15:59:53  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Where do they slow down?
15:59:59  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> nowhere now
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16:02:41  <V453000> !password
16:02:41  <PublicServer> V453000: verier
16:02:44  <V453000> its here again
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16:04:42  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> pbs here too slow
16:04:50  <PublicServer> <Sander_Buruma> I know
16:05:01  <PublicServer> <V453000> lol
16:05:03  <PublicServer> <V453000> nice gap there
16:05:45  <PublicServer> <V453000> try presignals when PBS is slow
16:07:06  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> lol
16:07:20  <PublicServer> <Sander_Buruma> whats up with the compressor
16:07:49  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> clogged because of your stop
16:08:05  <PublicServer> <Sander_Buruma> :S
16:08:15  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> its as shitty as the tunels:P
16:08:17  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> :]
16:08:30  <PublicServer> <Sander_Buruma> can you improve it?
16:08:35  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> compresor?
16:09:23  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> lol?
16:09:33  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> backed ut prains itn the tunels!
16:09:35  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> hahaha
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16:09:56  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> just noticed them sticking theyr heads out:P
16:10:09  <PublicServer> <Sander_Buruma> lalallaalalalala
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16:10:28  <PublicServer> <Sander_Buruma> oh god why are t hese trains acting stupid
16:10:36  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> lol?
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16:11:09  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> reversed PBS were bugiing them
16:11:10  <PublicServer> <Sander_Buruma> they weren't using the upper level tunnels
16:11:10  <V453000> k fuck it
16:11:43  <V453000> the reversed pbs should actually make them use the upper more
16:11:55  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> but bugged them
16:12:17  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> theye were going trough combo and wait in front of wrong exit
16:12:36  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> gap...
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16:13:32  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> hmm
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16:16:28  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> i know
16:20:16  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> voila
16:20:41  <PublicServer> <Sander_Buruma> pretty
16:20:57  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> gap is exactly 5
16:21:10  <PublicServer> <Sander_Buruma> one of the trains stopped for a second
16:21:13  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> so if upper tunels will fill train will block lover presignal
16:21:16  <PublicServer> <Sander_Buruma> on the upper level
16:21:21  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> i know
16:21:39  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> there is waiting space
16:21:44  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> just for that
16:22:17  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> but i still dont know why they clog on the exit
16:22:40  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> it is synced..
16:24:07  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> oh its because of compresr:P
16:26:10  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> damn
16:26:29  <PublicServer> <Sander_Buruma> not working well?
16:26:36  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> why they preffer upper
16:26:50  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> wait
16:26:56  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> why presignal war red?
16:27:05  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> why presignal is red?
16:27:09  <PublicServer> <Sander_Buruma> hopefully the penalty will do something
16:27:12  <PublicServer> <Sander_Buruma> mmmmm
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16:28:40  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> you see?
16:29:13  <PublicServer> <Sander_Buruma> I dont understand these trains
16:29:20  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> wtf?
16:29:38  <PublicServer> <Sander_Buruma> o... I think i know it
16:29:40  <V453000> I would apply flipflop logic there but that isnt what you want >]
16:29:41  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> why dont they use lower tunels?
16:29:44  <V453000> :)
16:29:53  <PublicServer> <Sander_Buruma> they'r using lower tunnels now
16:30:04  <PublicServer> <Sander_Buruma> I put the waypoint back in their orders
16:31:22  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> and now my solution shouldalso work
16:32:07  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> lets turn on compresor
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16:32:41  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> nicely packet stream out of the tunel
16:32:54  <PublicServer> <Sander_Buruma> yea
16:33:01  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> problem was: too many trains in the system
16:33:23  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> and they didnt fit on the trucks.. some of them had to be in the tunels
16:37:38  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> What's left?
16:38:41  <V453000> !screen
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16:39:14  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> i brokue tunels again:p
16:40:28  <PublicServer> <Sander_Buruma> what are you doing now?
16:42:57  <PublicServer> <Sander_Buruma> trying to inject trains?
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16:43:33  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> preakcelerated prio
16:43:40  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> *accelerated
16:51:32  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> ... had to pick up the phone
16:51:41  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> didn't see if its synced
16:54:19  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> i would have to move it a tile
16:54:22  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> whatever
16:54:51  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> lets do something worth doig
16:54:55  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> for egzample
16:55:00  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> missing station!
16:55:31  <V453000> !password
16:55:31  <PublicServer> V453000: gulped
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16:56:10  <PublicServer> <V453000> hey egen
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16:56:36  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> bye again
16:56:39  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> :P
16:56:54  <V453000> and bye again :D
16:56:55  <V453000> yes
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17:02:56  <PublicServer> <Sander_Buruma> why isnt the compressor being used?
17:03:05  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> cos its shity:P
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17:06:53  <V453000> hey the trains cost a LOT of cash every year
17:07:10  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> lol
17:08:15  <PublicServer> <Sander_Buruma> hush hush
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17:15:13  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> lol
17:15:16  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> gap 8
17:15:21  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> that was lucky
17:16:13  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> how big should pickup be?
17:17:02  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> and where is pick up o.O
17:17:29  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> everything there is one hudge drop
17:18:47  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Where are you working?
17:18:49  <Thorinbur> V453000: Why there is one big drop now at MS5
17:19:09  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> Giddorah: at MS5
17:19:14  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Ty
17:19:19  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> just conected one of the exits
17:19:36  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> and i am thinking about that last part of the station
17:20:06  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Haha! "Yes we can!"
17:20:22  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Barrack "V453000" Obama
17:20:36  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> ??
17:20:42  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> ah
17:20:43  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> ok
17:20:46  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> :)
17:20:53  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> sorry i was thinking about something else
17:20:59  <XeryusTC> V453000: if you make a blog article make sure it has a title :P
17:21:38  <V453000> XeryusTC: it does already, doesnt it
17:21:47  <V453000> pm added it :)
17:21:55  <XeryusTC> not in either my rss feed or the link :o
17:22:00  <V453000> :D
17:22:00  <XeryusTC> although that also came from the rss feed :P
17:22:11  <V453000> I think it should be ok now
17:22:16  <XeryusTC> hmm, ok :)
17:22:17  <V453000> but thanks :)
17:22:27  <XeryusTC> nothing said then ;)
17:22:33  <XeryusTC> except from a small remakr for the next time :P
17:22:58  <V453000> :) sure thank you :) I just somehow missed the first box for the title :D
17:23:09  <V453000> it was about 2 a.m. :)
17:23:27  <V453000> !password
17:23:27  <PublicServer> V453000: cinder
17:23:33  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> what about that station?
17:23:40  <V453000> just coming to see
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17:23:43  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> there is only drop here
17:23:53  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Uhm... Don't tell me that's your view-angle V?
17:23:54  <PublicServer> <V453000> what is the prob
17:24:07  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> both stations aer drop
17:24:07  <PublicServer> <V453000> WTF
17:24:16  <PublicServer> <V453000> oh k
17:24:21  <PublicServer> <V453000> sure everything is fine
17:24:28  <PublicServer> <V453000> it is not done yet
17:24:46  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> so you want to fit there two more stations
17:25:05  <PublicServer> <V453000> yea
17:25:14  <PublicServer> <V453000> and I will :p
17:25:33  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> i finished exit there
17:25:38  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> If the forest died it'd be easy
17:25:46  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Well... "Easy" :)
17:25:56  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> Easier
17:25:57  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> :P
17:26:04  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> gap 9
17:26:06  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> like this
17:26:08  <PublicServer> <V453000> cleaned up
17:26:24  <PublicServer> <V453000> well before it was about 12
17:26:32  <PublicServer> <V453000> it is fine this way
17:26:52  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> hmm...
17:27:17  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> not so easy to add third:P
17:27:28  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Wtf? How did you turn the station after it was built?
17:27:38  <PublicServer> <V453000> lol :)
17:27:46  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> WT!?!?
17:27:52  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Teach me master!
17:27:54  <PublicServer> <V453000> just building it again
17:27:58  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> :P
17:28:01  <PublicServer> <V453000> just overwrite
17:28:01  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> :]
17:28:03  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Hmm... When did they implement that? :D
17:28:04  <PublicServer> <V453000> try
17:28:11  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> :P
17:28:14  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Lol
17:28:22  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Excellent! I've always wanted that
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17:28:32  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> I don't think it's in the regular version
17:28:38  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> =0.7.5
17:29:05  <Thorinbur> @gap
17:29:05  <Webster> Thorinbur: (gap <trainlength> [<split>]) -- Returns minimum and maximum signal gap sizes for 2,3 and 4 linesplits with <trainlength>. If <spilt> is given it will return the the gap sizes for <split> (+/-) 1.
17:29:08  <Thorinbur> @gap 3
17:29:08  <Webster> Thorinbur: For Trainlength of 3: < 9 needs 2, 10 - 14 needs 3, 15 - 19 needs 4.
17:29:23  <Thorinbur> there is bug in that script
17:29:24  <Thorinbur> lol
17:29:30  <Thorinbur> <9 needs 2
17:29:34  <Thorinbur> 10 - 14 needs 3
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17:29:41  <Thorinbur> how about = 9?
17:29:51  <Thorinbur> it should be either <= 9
17:29:52  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Up to, and 9
17:29:57  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> True :P
17:29:57  <Thorinbur> or < 10
17:30:10  <PublicServer> <V453000> one solution: use your instinct not numbers :)
17:30:19  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> And it says "the the" in the end :P
17:30:29  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> "return the the gap sizes" :P
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17:30:44  <V453000> !password
17:30:44  <PublicServer> V453000: chaste
17:30:45  <Thorinbur> who i should report that to?
17:30:46  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Sorry... I'm a translator... I look for these things :P
17:30:54  <Thorinbur> Amler?
17:31:15  <V453000> two m
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17:31:21  <Thorinbur> i know
17:31:32  <Thorinbur> didn't want to highlight
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17:31:36  <Thorinbur> :P
17:31:44  <V453000> lol
17:31:53  <V453000> if you dont highlight then he will not probably answer
17:32:00  <Thorinbur> I know
17:32:05  <Thorinbur> but i asked to who
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17:32:16  <Thorinbur> never mind
17:32:32  <Thorinbur> Ammler: There is a bug in Websters @gap command
17:32:58  <KenjiE20> http://kenjie20.ath.cx:49180/trac/ottdcoop-plugin/
17:33:02  <Webster> Title: ottdcoop-plugin (at kenjie20.ath.cx:49180)
17:33:08  <Thorinbur> 1. typo: without argument it says: ...it will return the the gap sizes
17:33:19  <Thorinbur> heh
17:33:36  <Thorinbur> i highlighted Amm1er and KenjiE20 responded...
17:33:42  <Thorinbur> Hi Kenji :P
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17:34:43  <Thorinbur> those are just typos
17:34:53  <Thorinbur> but ok
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17:34:56  <KenjiE20> still a bug
17:35:01  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> V: You really to fit stuff into tight spaces, don't you? :P
17:35:03  <Thorinbur> Component: Tunnels?
17:35:09  <KenjiE20> yea
17:35:13  <PublicServer> <V453000> of course I will
17:35:23  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> *like
17:35:41  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Was supposed to say "You really like to" :)
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17:35:42  <Thorinbur> @tunnels 3
17:35:42  <Webster> Thorinbur: For Trainlength of 3: < 9 needs 2, 10 - 14 needs 3, 15 - 19 needs 4.
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17:40:34  <Thorinbur> @gap 5
17:40:34  <Webster> Thorinbur: For Trainlength of 5: < 11 needs 2, 12 - 18 needs 3, 19 - 25 needs 4.
17:41:41  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Patborough East is drop and Patborough Transfer is pickup?
17:41:52  <PublicServer> <V453000> both pickups
17:41:55  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Oh, okay
17:42:53  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> stupid cat...
17:43:00  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Most of them are
17:43:07  <PublicServer> <V453000> I love my cat
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17:43:42  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> runs at full speed trough the house braking at my room sliding all the way from doors, drifting trought corners
17:44:02  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Shouldn't leave Tokyo Drift running while you sleep
17:44:03  <PublicServer> <V453000> coool cat
17:44:04  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> (really it slides trough it like drifting
17:44:14  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> but...
17:44:26  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> he slides with all the cables on my flor
17:44:39  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> floor sometimes disconecting my modem...
17:45:03  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Haha
17:45:27  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> when i leave my doors open for some time and than close it it can go full speed trought the house just to crush at them:P
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17:45:31  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> brb
17:45:39  <V453000> !password
17:45:39  <PublicServer> V453000: possum
17:45:50  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Atleast it won't eat them
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17:46:12  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> My last dog ate my 3G-Dongle for my laptop
17:47:12  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> V: I'm thinking of the most northern  depot... Don't there have to be some kind of signals there?
17:47:25  <PublicServer> <V453000> +)
17:47:27  <PublicServer> <V453000> ;)
17:47:38  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Interesting :)
17:53:10  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> lol
17:53:14  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> forest is closing
17:53:16  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> :]
17:53:19  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Hah
17:53:33  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Gonna have to open another one or that station wont be as sexy :P
17:54:00  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> funny how with non-conditional overflow
17:54:06  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> CL is not so much problem
17:54:21  <PublicServer> <V453000> ye
17:55:03  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> I'm sure it is by intention... But one of the perons is missing an exit?
17:55:26  <PublicServer> <V453000> i see now :D
17:55:28  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> yeah
17:55:31  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> it does
17:55:57  <PublicServer> <V453000> thx
17:56:05  <PublicServer> <V453000> ok I think it is mad enough
17:56:42  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> :P
17:57:00  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
17:57:05  <PublicServer> <V453000> I like it
17:57:30  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> now we have to finish Chris's Strike
17:57:58  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> and we would actually be able to Add some trains!
17:57:59  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> wow!
17:58:01  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> :P
17:58:30  <PublicServer> <V453000> anyways ... FIRS IS MAD!
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17:58:36  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> FIRS?
17:58:39  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> ah
17:58:40  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> firs
17:58:45  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> industry grf
17:58:48  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Federal Income Regulation Services
17:58:52  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Ooh... Nvm
17:59:18  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> lol... Recycling plant at sudoku board
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17:59:45  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Why not? Have to wipe the board clean before reuse :)
18:00:07  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> you are saying that they are recycling sudoku?
18:00:20  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Atleast the board :)
18:00:28  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Is the !! Industry Areas updated?
18:00:55  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> it is now
18:01:08  <PublicServer> <V453000> oh I got wrong products :)
18:01:13  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Hehe, aight :)
18:01:22  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> oh
18:01:28  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> and MS 7
18:01:35  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> still waits to be build
18:01:51  <PublicServer> <V453000> your turn :P
18:01:52  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> MS4 is halfway done right?
18:02:23  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> right my turn...
18:02:30  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> not happy about that
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18:03:11  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> i need more EXP points
18:03:17  <V453000> !password
18:03:17  <PublicServer> V453000: throne
18:03:28  <V453000> I am the king
18:03:37  <V453000> see password :D
18:03:51  <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game
18:03:51  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> ^^
18:04:07  <PublicServer> <V453000>  I will flood the sudoku v2, k?
18:04:16  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> yeah
18:04:56  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> it still looks good
18:05:01  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> not any more
18:05:30  <PublicServer> <V453000> and nobody seen anything
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18:17:08  <AnnaBanz> http://imgnow.info/DSC-1268158628.jpg do my boobs look small?
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18:17:42  <KenjiE20> no, you boobs look like real estate
18:17:46  <KenjiE20> you should see a doctor
18:17:53  <V453000> wtf
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18:19:51  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Uhm... New airports?
18:19:54  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes
18:20:05  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Are we using too much money? :P
18:20:14  <PublicServer> <V453000> plan says connect cities with planes
18:20:19  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Aaah
18:20:20  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> My bad
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18:20:39  <V453000> !password
18:20:39  <PublicServer> V453000: peeved
18:20:57  <V453000> plus we get moar cash :)
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18:21:03  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> True :)
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18:24:55  <V453000> Thorinbur: just be creative there at 07 and it will turn out somhow
18:25:17  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Thor: Wanna coop-own it?
18:25:22  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Like... Really own that bastard
18:25:25  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Like... Totally
18:25:38  <V453000> dinnah
18:26:12  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> :]
18:26:31  <Thorinbur> I am partially afk
18:26:35  <Thorinbur> helping with dinner
18:26:42  <Thorinbur> will be eating it soon
18:27:16  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> ok Giddorah we can do coop building if you want
18:27:23  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> That'd own
18:27:36  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> you start i watch (this is coop:P)
18:27:49  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Hahaha
18:27:53  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> I could try :)
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18:30:13  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Renaming it preliminarily
18:30:16  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> If that's a word
18:30:56  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> One drop and two pickups?
18:32:48  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> ok i am off for dinner
18:34:10  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Hm
18:34:14  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Is it just me that's lagging?
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18:34:34  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Building is super-slow
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18:45:46  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> The pickups are to be 12 perons each right?
18:48:18  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Yay us :)
18:48:29  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Now let's try to sqeeze in 2 more stations and we're done
18:48:30  <ziza> !password
18:48:30  <PublicServer> ziza: shrimp
18:48:59  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> I am hardcore
18:49:00  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> :P
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18:49:05  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Yeah
18:49:10  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Good jub @ You :)
18:49:19  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> I'll try to make one of those weird V stations
18:49:34  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Pickups don't have to be Ro-Ro?
18:49:47  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> i will add overflow
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18:52:19  <V453000> !password
18:52:19  <PublicServer> V453000: shrimp
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18:53:21  <Chris_Booth> !password
18:53:21  <PublicServer> Chris_Booth: shrimp
18:53:28  <PublicServer> <V453000> hey Chris
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18:53:43  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> boom baby
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18:54:38  <V453000> oh
18:54:38  <V453000> :D
18:54:44  <V453000> you nuked me out
18:54:46  <V453000> !password
18:54:46  <PublicServer> V453000: shrimp
18:54:52  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> no room to finish my work
18:54:55  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> no i didnt
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18:55:06  <V453000> "boom baby" :P
18:55:15  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> lol ok may it was me
18:55:20  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
18:55:21  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> but dont tell everyone
18:55:30  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> also my strike now needs a rethink
18:55:52  <PublicServer> <V453000> .)
18:56:22  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> option 1: nuke it and leave it for someone else
18:56:28  <PublicServer> <V453000> :D
18:56:29  <PublicServer> <V453000> lol
18:56:33  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> option 2: cram it into that space
18:56:44  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> option 3 nuke your work
18:56:50  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> option 4: move it south
18:57:01  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> i like option 3 best
18:57:01  <PublicServer> <V453000> I would go with 4
18:57:14  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> i was thinking 2 or 3
18:57:23  <PublicServer> <V453000> or 2 :)
18:57:33  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> 3
18:57:40  <PublicServer> <V453000> no
18:57:42  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> 3 it is then
18:57:47  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> pick the one in the middle
18:57:50  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> you like 2 and 4
18:57:54  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> so i chose 3
18:57:56  <PublicServer> <V453000> :D
18:57:57  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> ok with me
18:57:59  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> :P
18:58:06  <PublicServer> <V453000> you Bitch!
18:58:13  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> It's V. who build it :P
18:58:24  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> not me :P
18:58:28  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> yeah V you Bitch
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18:58:43  <PublicServer> <V453000> hey I didnt have any other choice
18:58:52  <PublicServer> <V453000> than to build it there
18:59:05  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> build it smaller
18:59:20  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> There was absolutely no space
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18:59:28  <V453000> good joke :)
18:59:33  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> quick!
18:59:37  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> demolish it now
18:59:40  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> when he is out!
18:59:42  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> :P
18:59:53  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> You do know he sees this in IRC right? :P
18:59:54  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> lol
19:00:01  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> yeah
19:00:04  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> we could have a vote on it
19:00:19  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> Put a voting board than
19:00:20  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> V vs Me
19:00:37  <V453000> !password
19:00:37  <PublicServer> V453000: blunts
19:00:54  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> na i am just going to remove mine
19:00:56  <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game
19:01:05  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> and then someone else can claim it
19:01:17  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> bye bye hard work :'(
19:01:23  <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (connection lost)
19:01:41  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> lol
19:01:57  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> so why we were trying so hard to fi it there?
19:02:16  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> couldnt do it before?
19:02:50  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> well V. was fiting this, not we to be exact
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19:05:17  <Chris_Booth> hhm that was rather strange
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19:05:28  <Chris_Booth> !password
19:05:28  <PublicServer> Chris_Booth: blunts
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19:05:59  <Ben_Totterdell> !password
19:05:59  <PublicServer> Ben_Totterdell: blunts
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19:07:05  <PublicServer> <Ben Totterdell> much need doing?
19:07:18  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> MHS 04
19:07:19  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> MSH
19:07:40  <PublicServer> <Ben Totterdell> looks like someone is already starting
19:07:49  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> no i just finished
19:07:50  <V453000> !password
19:07:50  <PublicServer> V453000: blunts
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19:08:22  <PublicServer> <V453000> this connection...
19:08:57  <PublicServer> <Ben Totterdell> ok, so there is a dairy and a meaty packer at MSH 04.
19:09:12  <PublicServer> <Ben Totterdell> does that mean we need two exits either side?
19:09:29  <PublicServer> <V453000> on 4 is paper mill and recycling plant
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19:09:53  <PublicServer> <Ben Totterdell> oh.. reading wrong sign.. :/
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19:12:16  <PublicServer> <Ben Totterdell> Moo
19:12:22  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> Ben Totterdell: i would advise them in same place
19:12:28  <PublicServer> <V453000> me too
19:12:28  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> as the both make packaging
19:12:31  <PublicServer> <Ben Totterdell> hmm
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19:12:42  <PublicServer> <Ben Totterdell> i have little idea which makes what
19:12:53  <PublicServer> <Ben Totterdell> south or north of the line?
19:12:57  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> hmm
19:13:01  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> I just told you they make packaging
19:13:02  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> and south
19:13:42  <PublicServer> <Ben Totterdell> guess i could give it ago
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19:13:52  <PublicServer> <V453000> :))
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19:14:20  <PublicServer> <V453000> idea: try to stay as much east as you can
19:14:26  <PublicServer> <V453000> so there could be a SLH
19:14:54  <PublicServer> <Ben Totterdell> okie
19:15:02  <PublicServer> <Ben Totterdell> i was planning to put it right in the middle lol
19:15:29  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> V.: can you check Pickup#1
19:15:35  <PublicServer> <V453000> but nice
19:15:45  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> before i will make hard work with exits and entrances
19:15:53  <PublicServer> <V453000> there are no signals
19:15:59  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> V453000: 99% of my ideas are bad
19:16:05  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> its the 1% that stand out
19:16:07  <PublicServer> <V453000> :D
19:16:14  <PublicServer> <V453000> then we can celebrate! lets have beer
19:16:31  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> Beer time
19:16:35  <PublicServer> <V453000> Thorinbur: yes I see. there are no signals yet
19:16:44  <PublicServer> <V453000> and I would swap the lines
19:16:58  <PublicServer> <V453000> so it dosnt make a needless CL
19:16:59  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> why?
19:17:08  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> oh
19:17:22  <PublicServer> <V453000> it doesnt matter there but why to have it :)
19:17:55  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> to annoy us V!!!!
19:18:15  <PublicServer> <V453000> yeah thats my sport
19:18:17  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> its like why did van gouph cut his ear off
19:18:22  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> to spite his face
19:18:55  <PublicServer> * Ben Totterdell is already confused lol
19:19:12  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> i dont like pickup #2
19:19:19  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> not mine
19:19:22  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> ^^
19:19:28  <PublicServer> <V453000> yeah
19:19:29  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> it fails
19:19:32  <PublicServer> <V453000> big time
19:19:49  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> well its gone then
19:19:56  <Giddorah> !password
19:19:57  <PublicServer> Giddorah: flanks
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19:20:06  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> lol
19:20:15  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> Giddorah: Your Stations is done
19:20:18  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> *gone
19:20:20  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> :P
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19:20:24  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Huh? :O
19:20:27  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> What'd I do wrong? :O
19:20:57  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> was pickup 2 yours?
19:21:10  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> Yeah it was his.
19:21:15  <PublicServer> <V453000> lol
19:21:21  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> well it failed
19:21:32  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> the depots where badly placed
19:21:33  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Didn't know we did nuke-testing :(
19:21:36  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> no waiting spaec
19:21:43  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> I wasn't done :P
19:21:46  <PublicServer> <V453000> bad signals there ;)
19:21:51  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> i am in a nuking mood
19:21:52  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> But yeah, I prefer someone with skills to build them :P
19:22:04  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> dont look at me then
19:22:13  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Just yell at me next time though, please? :)
19:22:20  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> i did ask
19:22:27  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> no one said no
19:22:30  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> My internet dies every 4 hours :P
19:23:03  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> you asked?
19:23:08  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> look at irc
19:23:16  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> you said it's bad
19:23:28  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> and V. confirmed
19:23:33  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> so you nuked it
19:23:48  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> are you talking to me?
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19:23:59  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> if i dont like things they get fixed my way
19:24:02  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> the fast way
19:24:05  <PublicServer> <V453000> :D
19:24:06  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> with a big bang
19:24:18  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> ben use !tunnels
19:24:19  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
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19:24:40  <V453000> !password
19:24:41  <PublicServer> V453000: flanks
19:24:42  <PublicServer> <Ben Totterdell> perhaps.. if i knew how
19:24:51  <PublicServer> <Ben Totterdell> ok
19:24:56  <V453000> bah
19:25:02  <V453000> @gap
19:25:02  <Webster> V453000: (gap <trainlength> [<split>]) -- Returns minimum and maximum signal gap sizes for 2,3 and 4 linesplits with <trainlength>. If <spilt> is given it will return the the gap sizes for <split> (+/-) 1.
19:25:17  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> you could do it with 2
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19:25:54  <PublicServer> <Ben Totterdell> meh it'll be alright
19:26:03  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> yeah its fine
19:26:12  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> better safe than sorry
19:26:17  <PublicServer> *** Chris Booth has left the game (connection lost)
19:26:21  <Chris_Booth> BBL
19:26:23  <Chris_Booth> dinner time
19:26:39  <PublicServer> <V453000> cya
19:27:46  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> what is better to be trought tunell?
19:27:52  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> entrance or exit?
19:28:01  <PublicServer> <V453000> ?
19:28:06  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> (at the station)
19:28:29  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> or no difference
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19:29:59  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> V: i am talking about my station
19:30:22  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> is it better to make tunels an entrance, an exit or there is no difference
19:30:42  <PublicServer> <V453000> depends :)
19:31:03  <PublicServer> <V453000> basically it doesnt matter
19:37:08  <PublicServer> <Ben Totterdell> are we driving on the left or the right?
19:37:18  <V453000> normally on the right
19:37:22  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> right
19:37:25  <V453000> only ML4 is an exception :D
19:37:37  <PublicServer> <Ben Totterdell> yay
19:38:13  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> Oh Giddorah: How is your Na'vi?
19:38:15  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> :P
19:38:52  <hylje> still in incubation i suppose
19:38:52  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Wait! Watching the GF in webcam :P
19:39:04  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> lol
19:40:15  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Damn I've got a hot girlfriend
19:40:25  <PublicServer> <Ben Totterdell> i feel so sorry for you
19:40:30  <V453000> me too
19:40:38  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Yep... I know... Sucks... Can't get enough time to TTD :(
19:40:41  <KenjiE20> that's not a webcam, that's livejasmin
19:40:46  <KenjiE20> :P
19:40:48  <V453000> ^
19:40:50  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> lol
19:40:50  <V453000> wanted to say :D
19:40:51  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Shutup
19:41:52  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> ^^
19:42:14  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> Win
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19:46:13  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Aight! Back :D
19:46:40  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Sorry.. Forgot... No back-messages
19:47:03  <KenjiE20> it's fine if you're actually there
19:47:15  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> But... I was last time too
19:47:19  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> And got yelled at
19:47:21  <KenjiE20> it's the automated away-bacl-away-back spam that sucks
19:47:35  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Aight
19:47:37  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> I'll remember that
19:47:53  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> So! Thor! Want assistance? :)
19:48:06  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> build second sation if you want
19:48:16  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Aight
19:48:19  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Pickup #2?
19:48:26  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> 12 perons or 8?
19:50:12  <PublicServer> <Ben Totterdell> argh..
19:51:46  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Bah
19:51:52  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Hmmm
19:52:14  <PublicServer> <Ben Totterdell> i'm getting tired of doing this MSH lol
19:53:24  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> ok and the non-existing exit
19:53:37  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> that will be real pain in the ass
19:53:54  <PublicServer> <Ben Totterdell> whats this>?
19:54:15  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> err... question mark?
19:54:28  <PublicServer> <Ben Totterdell> this non existing exit?
19:54:45  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> exit that do not exist yet and waits to be build
19:54:47  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Wait a second...
19:54:50  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Where's the exits?
19:54:53  <PublicServer> <Ben Totterdell> where even
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19:56:46  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Thor
19:56:50  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Wanna go around my stations?
19:56:51  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> ??
19:57:17  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> sure always whished one day i would
19:57:25  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> :P
19:57:29  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Wait.. What? :P
19:57:33  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> never mind
19:57:42  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> I'll just google it
19:57:45  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> lol
19:57:46  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Oh you kinky man
19:58:26  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> We need another hub
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20:00:28  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Let's lowe the rest of the track too
20:00:36  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> lower
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20:03:37  <PublicServer> <Ben Totterdell> ok. i think my MSH 04 is done
20:03:53  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> than build station there
20:04:03  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Awesome :)
20:05:11  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> damn...
20:05:21  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> ?
20:05:34  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> have no idea where to go:P
20:05:37  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Haha
20:05:42  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Brb and I'll check :P
20:06:46  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Maybe it's easier to go north than west?
20:07:38  <PublicServer> * Ben Totterdell wonders why everyone elses MSH's are very very complicated
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20:08:54  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> well there will be exit from couple of stations and there is still a lot of mixing to be done
20:09:41  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> MSH 05 looked the same
20:09:52  <virtual> !players
20:09:54  <PublicServer> virtual: Client 906 is ZiZa, a spectator
20:09:54  <PublicServer> virtual: Client 853 is jond1sti, a spectator
20:09:54  <PublicServer> virtual: Client 861 (Orange) is Thorinbur, in company 1 (#openttdcoop PSG 178)
20:09:54  <PublicServer> virtual: Client 924 is Intexon, a spectator
20:09:54  <PublicServer> virtual: Client 916 (Orange) is Ben Totterdell, in company 1 (#openttdcoop PSG 178)
20:09:56  <PublicServer> virtual: Client 874 (Orange) is whitequark, in company 1 (#openttdcoop PSG 178)
20:09:56  <PublicServer> virtual: Client 920 (Orange) is Giddorah, in company 1 (#openttdcoop PSG 178)
20:10:04  <PublicServer> <Ben Totterdell> hmm ok
20:10:09  <PublicServer> *** tneo joined the game
20:10:09  <virtual> !password
20:10:09  <PublicServer> virtual: cloudy
20:10:25  <PublicServer> <Ben Totterdell> well i guess we need the stations before the mixing really
20:10:43  <PublicServer> *** virtual joined the game
20:10:45  <PublicServer> <Ben Totterdell> hence why i didnt do much with the exit as of yet
20:13:48  <PublicServer> <virtual> where is everyone working?  i want to watch some building
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20:14:11  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> MSH 7
20:14:37  <PublicServer> *** tneo has left the game (leaving)
20:17:09  <PublicServer> <virtual> MSH07?  what's wrong with it?
20:18:06  <PublicServer> <virtual> whoa.  trains are crashing
20:18:11  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> lol??
20:18:16  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> WYH!
20:18:36  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> who started trains in the train yard!
20:18:41  <V453000> ???
20:18:48  <V453000> OH NOES
20:18:52  <V453000> pls copy them fast
20:19:07  <V453000> before the crashed pieces dissappear
20:19:20  <PublicServer> <Ben Totterdell> done
20:19:56  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> don't know if i got all of them
20:20:13  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> how did that happen?
20:20:35  <PublicServer> <Ben Totterdell> my fault.
20:22:19  <PublicServer> <virtual> so what's wrong with MSH07?  it seems  like all the rails coming into it and going  out of it are connected
20:22:44  <PublicServer> <virtual> there's a little problem with crossing tracks just under the label but i can't see anything major that needs changed
20:22:58  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> MSH07b
20:23:03  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> with stations
20:23:20  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> north west from MSH07a
20:24:17  <PublicServer> <virtual> aah i see
20:25:13  <PublicServer> <virtual> i also need to learn the directions...that's another feature i want to add to OpenTTD...somewhere, a compass, maybe on the world map
20:25:33  <PublicServer> <Ben Totterdell> likes the terraform on the east
20:26:08  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> my shity compresor
20:26:14  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> ?
20:26:23  <PublicServer> <Ben Totterdell> i am making a lake
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20:29:25  <PublicServer> <Ben Totterdell> i'm a gonna marry Ellie Goulding
20:30:25  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> How's it going Thor? Crazy yet? :P
20:30:37  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> Crazy still
20:32:41  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> we got god damn 6 lines
20:32:46  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Hmmm
20:32:47  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Wait
20:32:50  <PublicServer> <Ben Totterdell> 7?
20:32:52  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> I'm getting a vision
20:32:55  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> six exit lines
20:32:59  <PublicServer> <Ben Totterdell> oh ok
20:33:09  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> 8 with mine
20:33:17  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> no
20:33:21  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> 6 with you
20:33:26  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Oh... Ok :P
20:33:31  <PublicServer> <Ben Totterdell> 6 to go
20:33:45  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Hmmm
20:34:12  <Giddorah> !gap 3 8
20:34:12  <PublicServer> Giddorah: You need 2 tunnels/bridges for trainlength 3 and gap 8.
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20:34:43  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> hmm...
20:34:48  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> bad idea
20:34:54  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Yeah?
20:34:57  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> at least not perfect
20:35:02  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> what with mine two lines?
20:35:24  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Hehe... Doing bit by bit... Might not be able to keep them together this time
20:35:43  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> 2 through there, 2 around my station... And my two?
20:35:58  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> why my around your station??
20:36:05  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> and than further away?
20:36:10  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> and your here?
20:36:11  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Hmmm... Wait
20:36:47  <Giddorah> !gap 3 53
20:36:47  <PublicServer> Giddorah: You need 11 tunnels/bridges for trainlength 3 and gap 53.
20:36:59  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> If we can fit 11 tunnels we could go under the entire hill :P
20:37:22  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> you are crazy you know?
20:37:30  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> I learn from the best :)
20:39:02  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> no!
20:39:05  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> F...
20:39:11  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> rebuild it now...
20:39:26  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> what were you trying to do?
20:39:53  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Clean it out so I could think better :P
20:40:07  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> lol
20:40:14  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Hmmm
20:40:18  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> than blow whole thing up
20:40:50  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> I was about to :P
20:40:59  <Chris_Booth> evening all
20:41:05  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> hi
20:41:09  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> again
20:41:35  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> If we could compress the tracks up top a little
20:41:37  <Chris_Booth> !password
20:41:38  <PublicServer> Chris_Booth: broils
20:41:44  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Then we could tunnel through
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20:42:00  <Chris_Booth> ok i am the compressing king
20:42:08  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> what need compressing?
20:42:19  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> exit needs building
20:42:21  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> The mountain top at Fludstone Bay Airport
20:42:46  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> lable it
20:43:13  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> If we could get 7 length tunnels through there, it'd be perfect
20:43:17  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> 7 length max
20:43:24  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> 9 is max
20:43:36  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> for the gap
20:43:36  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> The less the better (a)
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20:44:05  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> ok
20:44:08  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> We need 4 x 9 MAX tunnels through that mountain-top
20:44:28  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> i would go with you are joking
20:44:30  <PublicServer> *** Ben Totterdell has left the game (leaving)
20:44:36  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Haha
20:44:42  <PublicServer> <virtual> so you're trying to join Pickup #2 to the tracks to the down/left with tunnels?
20:45:02  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> virtual: We're trying to get them out :P
20:45:09  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Haven't planned a connection-point yet
20:45:12  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> I have 4 lines to merge to MSH
20:45:19  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> And Giddorah: got two more
20:45:32  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> witch he actualy try to tunnel to my 4...
20:45:35  <OwenS> !password
20:45:35  <PublicServer> OwenS: noodle
20:45:36  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> unfinished
20:45:42  <PublicServer> *** Owen joined the game
20:45:44  <OwenS> Aah, the Noodle incident
20:45:55  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Work your magic CB :)
20:46:17  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Oh wait
20:46:29  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> You found a way Thor?
20:46:46  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> it me
20:46:47  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> and i am off now
20:46:48  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> Thats CB actually now
20:46:51  <PublicServer> *** Chris Booth has left the game (connection lost)
20:46:51  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Oh
20:46:55  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Thanks :)
20:46:57  <PublicServer> <virtual> so um...can someone answer me a simple question about directions...which way is north?
20:47:04  <PublicServer> <virtual> the way it goes when i press up on the keypad?
20:47:13  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> North for me is the upper right corner of the monitor
20:47:22  <PublicServer> <Owen> Thats the way OpenTTD considers north, but not the way we do
20:47:23  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> not upper left?
20:47:26  <PublicServer> <Owen> We consider North upper left
20:47:29  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Oh
20:47:38  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Explains why nobody listens to my advice :)
20:47:42  <Drunkzilla> !password
20:47:42  <PublicServer> Drunkzilla: noodle
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20:47:57  <KenjiE20> @compass
20:48:01  <KenjiE20> !compass
20:48:04  <KenjiE20> hmm
20:48:11  <KenjiE20> that Used to be a bind
20:48:22  <KenjiE20> @wiki compass
20:48:25  <Webster> Compass - #openttdcoop Wiki - http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Special:Search?go=Go&search=compass
20:48:27  <Paul2> !dl win32
20:48:27  <PublicServer> Paul2: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r19253/openttd-trunk-r19253-windows-win32.zip
20:48:37  <PublicServer> <virtual> that should be a feature of OpenTTD...a compass on the world map
20:48:50  <PublicServer> <Owen> virtual: As I said, we and OpenTTD disagree about directions
20:48:56  <PublicServer> <Owen> Mainly because theirs go on diagonals :p
20:49:11  <KenjiE20> well openttd devs use up down left right
20:49:18  <KenjiE20> but that's kinda hard to draw
20:49:51  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> Who is building now?
20:49:55  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Me
20:50:12  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> You should know we need space to merge that lines
20:50:25  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> there is no merdge or line to ML
20:50:31  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> MSH is incomplete
20:50:32  <PublicServer> <virtual> so you're trying to join the 4 tracks with a comment "isn't ML to close to the loop?"
20:50:40  <PublicServer> <virtual> to the station Pickup #2
20:50:45  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> No
20:51:00  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> We are trying to get our trains that come FROM the stations to be able to re-join the main-line :)
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20:51:14  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> i marked 3 exits
20:51:24  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Well
20:51:31  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Atleast we've got that exit out
20:51:37  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Two more to go
20:51:42  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> Giddorah:  Lets try to merge something first...
20:51:46  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Aight
20:51:49  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Haha
20:51:54  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> This place is COVERED with tracks!
20:51:58  <Drunkzilla> !screen
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20:52:00  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> we need at the end to merge it to 4 lines
20:52:05  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> 2 W and 2 E
20:52:10  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Yeah
20:52:28  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> But there's no hub
20:52:38  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> no. Not yet
20:52:44  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> So we're quite flexible there
20:52:44  <Paul2> !password
20:52:44  <PublicServer> Paul2: noodle
20:52:51  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> not really
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20:52:54  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> I know
20:52:56  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Space sucks
20:53:35  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> I say we try and merge your tracks somehow and let mine be outside until we reach the hub
20:53:42  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> What do you think?
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20:53:51  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> no temporary solutions
20:53:59  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> lets build exits...
20:54:12  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> i am thinking about splitting
20:54:22  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> V. Made it easier for himself
20:54:31  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> merging exits to one line
20:54:41  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Yeah
20:54:42  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> he ended up with 3 to divide to ML
20:54:45  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> We should do that
20:54:46  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> MSH
20:55:05  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> and still his chioces or whatever is hudge
20:55:11  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Well... Atleast merge the pickup exits
20:55:12  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> we got 6 tracks ATM
20:55:39  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Yeah
20:55:41  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> But if we merge them even with balancing
20:55:57  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> we end up with 2 tracks where originaly there were 4
20:56:02  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Yeah...
20:56:08  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> They are gonna be performance hogs
20:56:12  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> 4 in 2 out aint good
20:56:35  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Or 6 in 3 out in this case
20:57:11  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Well... Hey... Most stations seem to merge quite early
20:58:10  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Thor?
20:58:42  <Giddorah> Hmm
20:58:45  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> wait!
20:58:49  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> ?
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20:59:00  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> our pickup comes from 2 lines
20:59:01  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Uh oh
20:59:04  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Yes
20:59:37  <PublicServer> <virtual> so this must be a transfer station?
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20:59:46  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Which one? :)
20:59:49  <PublicServer> <virtual> pickup #2
21:00:06  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Well :) We pick up things from pickup-stations :)
21:00:13  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Industry aint built yet
21:00:29  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> heh experienced players must have preety good fun reading this conversation
21:00:42  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> i am so ashamed...
21:00:43  <PublicServer> <virtual> so i assume by this you can build any industry with the mods you have?
21:00:58  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> that aint mods
21:01:01  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> virtual: Well :) You can without mods too if you enable that in options :)
21:01:07  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> you can do it in any version
21:01:24  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> damn i need cofeine
21:01:39  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> I need nicotine
21:01:46  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> and Eveline (Girlfriend)
21:02:01  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Funny I said nicotine first...
21:02:02  <PublicServer> <virtual> ah.  i thought you could only build factory buildings not mines / farms
21:02:23  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> it ill be factory
21:02:31  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Well... Standard settings are you can only build secondary industries (Factories, Power Plants etc)
21:02:31  <PublicServer> <Drunkzilla> virtual: I guess you will build factory there and then pickup the goods
21:02:38  <PublicServer> <virtual> ah.  ok
21:02:57  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> But you can change that so that you can build primaries also (Produces things without needing things)
21:03:19  <PublicServer> <Drunkzilla> Giddorah: but you can't choose where they will 'grow'
21:03:23  <PublicServer> <Drunkzilla> or can you?
21:03:28  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Sure you can
21:03:38  <PublicServer> <Drunkzilla> Eh.. where please? :)
21:03:40  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Just click "Fund new industry" and click the map :)
21:03:53  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> depends on the settings
21:04:05  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> secondaries: alweys whenever you want
21:04:08  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> primaries:
21:04:11  <PublicServer> <Drunkzilla> Hmm.. I have probably some bad setting.. because I can fund primaries, but they are placed randomly
21:04:20  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> 1.You can't build them
21:04:27  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> Drunkzilla: yes there is setting for that
21:04:47  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> 2. You can build them and they will popup randomly
21:04:54  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Didn't know that
21:04:59  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> economy->industries->Manual primary industry construction method
21:04:59  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> 3. You chose where to place industry
21:05:20  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> In advanced settings
21:05:33  <Drunkzilla> Hmm.. I used the 'prospecting' option.. so I guess that I have to use 'as other industries' to be able to choose location?
21:05:40  <jondisti> ye
21:05:40  <jondisti> s
21:05:44  <Drunkzilla> thank you
21:06:07  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Thor... You got your coffeine yet?
21:07:00  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> We still going with 6 sexits?
21:07:02  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Haha!
21:07:04  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> EXITS
21:07:14  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> sexists
21:07:24  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Yaya! I made a typo... Sue me :P
21:07:29  <PublicServer> <Drunkzilla> sexits sounds good :d
21:08:56  <PublicServer> <virtual> so where these rejoin the mainline, that will be a hub?
21:09:05  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Yes :)
21:09:15  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> A hub is where tracks join/split :)
21:10:53  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> I'm quite sure it's better to do that on the bottom level to the east thor :P
21:12:13  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> F.... it!
21:12:22  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> i merge it to two...
21:12:40  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Nonono! No F**kyf**ky for you my friend
21:12:41  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Yeah
21:12:44  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Let's just merge them
21:12:49  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Easier and everyone's done it
21:13:03  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> and tha Chris will come say it sucks and blow up and hawe to do it better!
21:13:04  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> ha!
21:13:07  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> That way your track don't have to go all the way around Pickup #2
21:13:08  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> this is my plan!
21:13:13  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Good plan! :D
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21:14:11  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> If we merge early... We could easily get through to the northwest
21:14:43  <PublicServer> *** virtual has left the game (leaving)
21:15:32  <virtual> !password
21:15:32  <PublicServer> virtual: psyche
21:15:58  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> mix or don't mix
21:16:01  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Mix
21:16:02  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> this is a question
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21:16:17  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Makes  us less probably to get blown up
21:16:31  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> If it's possible to do a small mix there
21:16:40  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> I'm NO mixing-expert
21:16:41  <dih> @seen Timmaexx
21:16:42  <Webster> dih: Timmaexx was last seen in #openttdcoop 2 days, 22 hours, 17 minutes, and 57 seconds ago: <Timmaexx> the transrapid
21:16:45  <PublicServer> *** virtual joined the game
21:16:55  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Welcome back virtual :)
21:18:10  <dih> if you see Timmaexx, tell him to pm me on irc please
21:18:56  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> F... it again...
21:19:01  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> cant do it...
21:19:05  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Too small?
21:19:22  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Aight... Let's not mix it
21:19:25  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> thast damn 4->2 merge with full mixing...
21:19:33  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> wth are we doing here
21:19:36  <PublicServer> <virtual> instead of exit 2 going all the way around the bay, wouldn't it be better to bridge at the narrow point?
21:19:43  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Being over-complicated? :)
21:20:13  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Virtual: Well... These stations belong to mainline 7 :)
21:20:28  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> There's a strict building strategy that we're trying to follow
21:20:35  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Which is putting us behind schedule atm :P
21:20:57  <PublicServer> <Drunkzilla> Where is taht building strategy described? :)
21:21:47  <PublicServer> <Drunkzilla> ah.. ty
21:22:21  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> without mixing it would be like this
21:22:40  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> even smaller
21:22:45  <PublicServer> <virtual> so this is a MSH we're building?
21:22:47  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Yeah
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21:23:00  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Thor: Yeah
21:23:05  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Virtual: Well... Not exactly
21:23:20  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> But a small MSH would probably make things easier :P
21:23:21  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> MSH and belonging stations
21:23:38  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> There isn't anything done yet except a split on the mainline
21:23:47  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> So we've got 50% of a MSH to work out of :)
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21:24:04  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Actually... We've got two splits on the same mainline
21:26:46  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Running out of ideas yet?
21:27:08  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> leave it
21:27:17  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> you don't know what am i trying to do
21:27:23  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> True :)
21:27:55  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Uh oh... Are you doing that crazy tunnel experiment you did on the test bed? :O
21:28:09  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> that was not me
21:28:13  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Ah, forgot
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21:31:17  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> virtual!
21:31:18  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> CL!
21:31:25  <PublicServer> <virtual> CL?
21:31:25  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> Huge CL!
21:31:29  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> Curve length
21:31:32  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> @cl
21:31:38  <Thorinbur> @cl
21:31:38  <Webster> cl: Curve Length, mostly used to describe how big a curve must be to let pass trains with a certain TL at full speed, see also: http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Max_Curve_Speed
21:31:39  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Where?
21:31:51  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> at his proposed bridges
21:31:58  <PublicServer> <virtual> ah!  i see
21:32:01  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Ah, haha
21:32:14  <PublicServer> <virtual> so you have a minimum curve radius
21:32:21  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> offcourse
21:32:25  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Well... Read the articles that came up :)
21:32:34  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Trains speed down if the curves aren't long enough :)
21:32:41  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> speed down :P
21:33:04  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> And we're trying not to terraform too much :P
21:33:17  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Atleast the coastlines (a)
21:33:18  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> no this is S turn
21:33:24  <PublicServer> <virtual> i see what looks like CL's all over the place
21:33:51  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> S turns are still leaving the train going in the same direction
21:34:11  <PublicServer> <virtual> so it's a turn and then a reverse turn and that's penalized less?
21:34:22  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> If you're making a train turn right or left from it's original path however, it needs to slow down if the curve is not long enough
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21:37:16  <PublicServer> <virtual> oh yes.  if you use the demolition on the sea, why does it cost ,000 ?  lol
21:37:35  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Well :) Throw a dynamite-stick in the ocean and see if you'll get a refund :)
21:37:48  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> you think its cheap to remove all that water?
21:37:53  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> ??
21:39:17  <PublicServer> <virtual> is there anything that needs built that i could work on?
21:39:26  <PublicServer> <virtual> something that won't delay things too much WHEN i screw it up lol
21:39:37  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> don't thinks so
21:39:41  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Well :) There's nothing really :(
21:39:44  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> everything easy to build is done
21:39:56  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Check the !! Industry areas
21:40:02  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> We're working on 4
21:40:05  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Wait
21:40:06  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> 7
21:40:58  <PublicServer> <virtual> i am reading it but i don't know what it means...
21:41:21  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Well :) It's different stations/industry areas
21:41:30  <PublicServer> <virtual> well i could figure that much out :P
21:41:32  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Check means the area is done :)
21:41:41  <PublicServer> <virtual> again
21:41:44  <PublicServer> <virtual> but where IS area 7?
21:41:59  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Check around for different numbers on the signs above large hubs :)
21:42:02  <hylje> between 6 and 8
21:42:19  <PublicServer> <virtual> so at BBH07a?  BBH07b?  MSH07a?  which of those?
21:42:33  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> That's area 7 :)
21:43:30  <PublicServer> <virtual> so build an aluminum plant, sawmill, oil refinery, and metal foundry somewhere in area 7?
21:43:36  <PublicServer> <virtual> or look for already existing ones?
21:43:48  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> We're building the industries manually :P
21:44:02  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> But not until everything is done
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21:44:06  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> So they don't close down
21:44:43  <PublicServer> <virtual> that area is really hilly
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21:49:30  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> I really have to use the restroom Thor... Don't make me sit here anymore
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21:56:20  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> lol!
21:56:25  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> I am an idion hahahahahahaha
21:57:57  <PublicServer> <virtual> someone take a look at Fludstone Bay Valley.  i am sure i did 100 things wrong
21:57:57  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> @gap
21:58:25  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Well
21:58:26  <PublicServer> <virtual> (yes, i know there are no signals.  i will place them when someone assures me the track is ok)
21:58:33  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> First off
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21:58:40  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> wow
21:58:40  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> We're not gonna place an industry there :P
21:58:49  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Second off... Trains are gonna be three cells long
21:58:50  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> ok
21:58:54  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> So the station can be shorter
21:58:55  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> i think you need:
21:59:01  <Thorinbur> @quickstart
21:59:04  <Webster> Quickstart - #openttdcoop Wiki - http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Quickstart
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21:59:09  <Thorinbur> or even:
21:59:12  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Read the quickstart :)
21:59:13  <Thorinbur> @slowstart
21:59:13  <Webster> Read everything on the wiki, and I mean everything
21:59:36  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> We do not connect to ML!
21:59:39  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> Never!
21:59:57  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> only via MSH/SLH
22:01:06  <virtual> @quickstart
22:01:08  <Webster> Quickstart - #openttdcoop Wiki - http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Quickstart
22:03:02  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Aight... Thor
22:03:13  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> I think we can call E2&E3 just E2 now
22:03:28  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Feels less depressing :P
22:03:41  <PublicServer> <virtual> humm.  and how exactly do i know this is the mainline?
22:03:48  <PublicServer> <virtual> it seems this is the only stop on this loop
22:03:59  <PublicServer> <virtual> trains will always make the right turn at BBH07b if they are heading elsewhere
22:04:30  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> no why?
22:04:48  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> they will only leave ML when they need to go to station
22:05:21  <PublicServer> <virtual> it is hard to tell which track is ML and which track is SL
22:05:36  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> there ale no SL yet
22:05:39  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> :P
22:06:13  <PublicServer> <virtual> so how can i make an industry if it has to connect to a SL and there are no SL?
22:06:16  <PublicServer> <virtual> do i start with an SL?
22:06:31  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> you start wuth SLH
22:06:36  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> (Side Line Hub
22:06:47  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> but we do not connect primaries yet
22:06:53  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> we are building MS first
22:06:59  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> (Main Stations)
22:07:08  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> and MSHs (Main Station Hubs
22:07:43  <PublicServer> <virtual> hmm
22:08:00  <PublicServer> <virtual> well someone pointed me to an industry as something i could build lol
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22:10:33  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Here's what I do :)
22:10:43  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> I watch (and try to help when I can) these games
22:10:48  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> I talk and ask on IRC
22:10:54  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> And I run two OpenTTD-programs :)
22:11:12  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> One running a single game where I have made a scenario similar to these Coop-scenarios
22:11:28  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> And I copy/steal hubs and designs over there and try to learn the advanced physics behind them :)
22:11:43  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> WIthout having to be afraid that I'll fuck something up :)
22:11:51  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Oops! Excuse my french
22:12:18  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> Giddorah: You know you can save multiplayer game and run it as single?
22:12:33  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Offcourse... But I want to build them myself :)
22:12:37  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> I just copy by eye :)
22:12:46  <PublicServer> <virtual> i just discovered that the other day
22:13:16  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> ok!
22:13:26  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> one of two merges done
22:13:33  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Good job!
22:13:38  <PublicServer> <virtual> i wish OpenTTD had replays
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22:14:34  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Hmmm
22:14:52  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Are we trying to make room for the second merge west of this one?
22:15:14  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> yeah there will be second merge west
22:15:38  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Damn
22:15:59  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> still prios to build
22:16:05  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> but i left space for them
22:16:08  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> so no fear
22:16:49  <PublicServer> <virtual> how do you know where they will be needed?
22:17:13  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> prios are always when you connect something to ML
22:17:41  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> except BBH where there are 2 MLs merging so you can't prioritize one ML over another
22:17:50  <PublicServer> <virtual> BBH is where two ML's merge then?
22:18:03  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> two or more :P
22:20:49  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> one prio done
22:20:55  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> ugly but will work:P
22:21:16  <PublicServer> <virtual> so why are your trains 7 cars long anyway?  i thought it was 2 cars per space
22:21:43  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Check !! TRAINYARD
22:21:51  <PublicServer> <virtual> that's where i'm looking
22:21:51  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Other trains around are not standard
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22:22:01  <Thorinbur> Ask V.
22:22:02  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Trains are 3 cells long
22:22:10  <Thorinbur> oh
22:22:29  <Thorinbur> propably cos those are really short carts
22:22:40  <Thorinbur> !password
22:22:40  <PublicServer> Thorinbur: revere
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22:25:49  <PublicServer> <virtual> ah.  3 cells will make finding a place for a station easier
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22:26:10  <PublicServer> <virtual> in single player i usually just make all my stations 7 spaces lol
22:26:59  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> great
22:27:02  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> prios done
22:27:14  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> East merge done
22:28:25  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> now second one
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22:46:26  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> fine
22:46:29  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> at last
22:46:41  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> i done it like dummy IA :P
22:46:48  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Hmmm
22:46:49  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Thor
22:47:02  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> pathfinding
22:47:05  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> what?
22:47:16  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> A small part of your second merge is LRR
22:47:37  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> o.O
22:47:52  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Or am I too tired to keep up with you?
22:47:57  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> mark it
22:48:18  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Marked
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22:48:27  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Wait
22:48:30  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Waaait
22:48:39  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> i just moved one MLs lane
22:48:41  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> I was wrong offcourse :)
22:48:51  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Keep on :)
22:48:58  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> I guess I'm getting tired
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22:50:45  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Want me to get the upper merge done?
22:50:45  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> good thing: it is already mixed
22:50:56  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> upper merdge?
22:51:03  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> *merge?
22:51:14  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Yeah from Pickup #2 to the merge you built
22:51:16  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Waaaaait
22:51:18  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Nevermind
22:51:22  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Damn! I AM getting tired
22:51:35  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> now we need to split!
22:51:39  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> :P
22:51:42  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Split?
22:51:44  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> 6->12
22:51:45  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> SPLIT?
22:51:48  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> :P
22:51:50  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Damnit...
22:51:59  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Where are we supposed to do that?
22:52:08  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> And besides... We're down to 4... Not 6 :)
22:52:18  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> dont worry we can merge freerly now
22:52:40  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> i mean left to left right to right, but AFTER split
22:52:52  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> so E2 i E3 must be rebuild
22:53:04  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> and E1 aso
22:53:19  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Aight
22:53:28  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> You wanna boom?
22:53:45  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> nah i will do E1
22:53:59  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> and i am sure tomorow someone will come, and say shity solution:P
22:54:04  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Do we need to move E2 and E3?
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23:02:39  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Hmmm
23:02:48  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> What if we invert the outer part of that station?
23:02:56  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> It'd give us a few more cells
23:03:05  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Or just move it out
23:03:10  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> I could do it
23:05:02  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Beautiful
23:05:07  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> gap
23:05:25  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Less than 9 = 2
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23:06:47  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> signal gap at that merge
23:07:03  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Ah
23:07:06  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Aight
23:08:10  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> lol
23:08:22  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Haha
23:08:27  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Good sollution :)
23:08:32  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Solution
23:08:55  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> Heh i am gaining EXP
23:09:00  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Sure am :)
23:09:21  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> In 32 years this game is 300 years old :)
23:11:20  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Hmmm
23:11:25  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Why move those tunnels?
23:11:59  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> easier to tunnel/bridge this than
23:12:06  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> those 4 comming lanes:P
23:12:14  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> witch would make 8 tunnels
23:12:19  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Aight :) Go ahead :)
23:12:34  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> 8 is crazy... :P
23:13:15  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Want me to start on the other side?
23:13:31  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> just don't break anything:P
23:13:36  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> I'll try (a)
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23:14:12  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> lol
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23:15:47  <Giddorah_> !password
23:15:47  <PublicServer> Giddorah_: uglied
23:15:49  <Giddorah_> Stupid ISP
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23:20:10  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Grrr
23:20:27  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> where are you going
23:20:55  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Well... Was thinking I could easily go there and then turn west
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23:22:54  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> I really don't get it
23:23:07  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Why can't I lower Wtf?
23:25:37  <Chris_Booth> anyone around?
23:25:41  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Sure
23:25:41  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> yeah
23:25:50  <Chris_Booth> wow i am amazed
23:25:52  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> still having fun with MSH07 b
23:26:14  <PublicServer> <virtual> I am.  I'm trying to build something...and I've painted myself into a corner lol
23:26:17  <Chris_Booth> klkl
23:26:19  <Chris_Booth> i am going to .pz
23:26:20  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> i remind you it is climb
23:26:23  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> too steep
23:26:26  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Aight
23:26:50  <Chris_Booth> if need help or adivce just page me
23:27:21  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> well we are almost almost done
23:27:30  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> yet harder part left
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23:30:20  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> How much climb is acceptable?
23:30:35  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> one up one even
23:30:52  <PublicServer> <virtual> AAAAHHHHHH   you mean you can't have two consecutive up tracks?
23:31:02  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> yup
23:31:07  <PublicServer> <virtual> on a level this hilly?
23:31:14  <PublicServer> <virtual> you guys are fucking insane lol
23:31:51  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> try not to terafom more then needed
23:31:56  <PublicServer> <virtual> i did figure that out lol
23:32:32  <PublicServer> <virtual> being as we have probably have enough money to level every mountain on the map, and nonetheless there are still mountains lol
23:33:42  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> lol
23:33:53  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> it is really croudy here
23:34:00  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> No shit? :P
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23:34:28  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> look where my 4 tracks are going:P
23:34:39  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Seriously?! Haha
23:34:40  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Damnit!
23:35:08  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Sync?
23:35:54  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> i will rebuild that part later
23:36:02  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Be my guest :P
23:36:03  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> i need to finish mine first:P
23:38:39  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> lol i had to make serpentine
23:38:40  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> :P
23:38:51  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> A sexy serpentine tho :)
23:39:52  <PublicServer> <virtual> can someone take a look at Fludstone Bay Valley?
23:40:05  <PublicServer> <virtual> i fully realize it will probably be completely wrong and totally ripped out
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23:49:49  <PublicServer> <virtual> no one has made any comments about my station...must be either OK or really bad lol
23:55:08  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> This is madnes...
23:55:16  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Oh really?
23:55:17  <PublicServer> <virtual> what is?
23:55:20  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> and what is more i don't know if it's correct
23:55:35  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> I've lost control
23:55:42  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> You are missing me playing V.
23:55:58  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> We're (Thor) are making some crazy stuff
23:57:05  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Roads?
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