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Advanced Building Revue 05 is out! :P 09:25:01 <V453000> !password 09:25:02 <PublicServer> V453000: encase 09:25:13 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 09:25:15 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 09:28:27 <Webster> Latest update from blog: Advanced Building Revue 05: Sbahns and city networks <http://blog.openttdcoop.org/2010/06/13/advanced-building-revue-05-sbahns-and-city-networks/> 09:30:12 <V453000> :) 09:30:16 <V453000> \o- 09:30:21 <V453000> \o/ 09:30:28 <V453000> -o/ 09:31:33 <^Spike^> .... 09:31:41 * ^Spike^ give V453000 his pill 09:31:44 <^Spike^> calm down.. 09:31:46 <^Spike^> :D 09:31:53 <V453000> weee 09:31:55 <V453000> cookie 09:34:03 <V453000> Twitter is over capacity. Too many tweets! Please wait a moment and try again. 09:34:04 <V453000> rofl 09:34:18 <Mazur> Yeah. 09:35:01 <^Spike^> hey.. my cairo city... :) 09:35:13 <^Spike^> well not just mine.. but well you get the idea :D 09:35:17 <^Spike^> was a pain to order those :D 09:35:37 <Mazur> Ever since we Dutch had an election. And now the WC football has started.... 09:35:44 <Mazur> El Kahira? I've lived there. 09:35:57 <^Spike^> i meant in the article 09:36:07 <^Spike^> there is a sbahn from one of the games that i worked on :) 09:36:09 <V453000> :) 09:36:10 <V453000> cairo was mad 09:36:17 <^Spike^> V453000 tell me about it 09:36:25 <V453000> I just did 09:36:28 <V453000> :P 09:36:35 <^Spike^> we took eh.. i think 2-3 hours to create all orders for all 8 train groups 09:36:57 <V453000> :) 09:37:06 <V453000> and in the end it wasnt enough :P 09:37:11 *** mrruben5 has left #openttdcoop 09:37:19 <^Spike^> oh well it was fun making it.. 09:37:22 <^Spike^> and it was expandable :D 09:37:28 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving) 09:37:28 <^Spike^> not that you would expand it :D 09:37:35 <V453000> well it was expandable 09:37:43 <V453000> but not effective enough :) 09:37:45 <V453000> it needed more trains 09:37:49 <V453000> or better trains ... 09:37:54 <^Spike^> true.. but it would've clogged the station 09:37:55 *** Polygon has joined #openttdcoop 09:38:02 <^Spike^> this was thebest we could afford at that time if i'm right 09:38:53 <V453000> I know 09:38:58 <V453000> but there was US trainset 09:39:05 <V453000> which definitely has better trains :) 09:39:10 <V453000> im testing in sp now 09:39:24 <^Spike^> i think in the end the best would've been entry wp - exit wp and just overflow each branch with trains 09:39:33 <^Spike^> so that you have an overflow track at the end 09:39:45 <^Spike^> and if load was 0 inject into main stream again 09:39:51 <V453000> yea 09:40:36 *** thgergo has joined #openttdcoop 09:41:29 <^Spike^> but well still it was nice :D 09:42:14 <V453000> for sure 09:43:53 <^Spike^> why you also got another sbahn design from me in thee... 09:44:01 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 09:44:02 <PublicServer> *** Spike joined the game 09:44:05 <^Spike^> the last pic is also one i worked on.. or designed even... i guess 09:44:32 <^Spike^> oh wait it says that even.. 09:44:38 <^Spike^> i more watch pics then read :D 09:44:46 <^Spike^> and V453000 it's ^Spike^ ! ;) 09:44:58 <V453000> wa 09:45:00 <V453000> ? :D 09:45:03 <V453000> oh 09:45:53 <V453000> happi now? :P 09:47:17 <^Spike^> yeah! :D 09:47:24 <^Spike^> i'm proud of the ^ :D 09:48:20 *** heffer has joined #openttdcoop 09:48:38 <V453000> ^^ 09:49:03 <V453000> people also write me without my numbers ;[ 09:50:12 <V453000> aaand lets have some lunch 09:50:14 <V453000> laters 09:50:59 *** fonsinchen has joined #openttdcoop 09:55:57 <PublicServer> *** Spike has left the game (leaving) 10:02:22 *** [com]buster has quit IRC 10:03:34 *** Yso has joined #openttdcoop 10:03:45 *** valhallasw has quit IRC 10:04:19 *** roboboy has joined #openttdcoop 10:07:30 *** pugi has quit IRC 10:24:18 *** Seberoth has joined #openttdcoop 10:25:04 *** Henri has joined #openttdcoop 10:25:17 *** KenjiE20 has joined #openttdcoop 10:25:17 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o KenjiE20 10:25:21 <Henri> hi 10:25:59 <Henri> could anyone say, why the only company in welcome stable server is password protected? 10:26:20 <KenjiE20> no one else could be bothered? 10:26:36 <Mazur> !password 10:26:36 <PublicServer> Mazur: brinks 10:26:55 <Henri> :/ 10:27:43 <Mazur> KenjiE20: I have never played a Coop PAx game before, so I've no good idea to plan with. 10:28:26 <Mazur> Henri: You can get in with the password as well. 10:28:34 <Henri> how? 10:29:11 <Henri> the only player in the company is afk.. 10:29:45 <Mazur> Join the server, and hte company, and then you gbet asked for the password, which you can ask for here with: !password 10:30:06 <Henri> !password 10:30:06 <PublicServer> Henri: pastor 10:30:07 <V453000> Henri: sorry, was an error, we forgot to increase company limit :) 10:30:10 <Mazur> Oh, sworry, you said stable server. 10:30:18 <V453000> :) 10:30:19 <Henri> yeh. 10:30:34 <Henri> okay:) 10:31:06 *** roysvork has joined #openttdcoop 10:31:22 <roysvork> !dl win32 10:31:22 <PublicServer> roysvork: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r19950/openttd-trunk-r19950-windows-win32.zip 10:33:30 <roysvork> !password 10:33:30 <PublicServer> roysvork: pastor 10:33:37 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 10:33:39 <PublicServer> *** Roysvork joined the game 10:34:53 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 10:34:53 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 10:34:55 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 10:34:55 <PublicServer> <V453000> hi 10:34:59 <PublicServer> <Roysvork> alright 10:35:31 <PublicServer> <Roysvork> I got a question for ya actually 10:35:49 <PublicServer> <Roysvork> was gonna post it against the blog entry you made about PAX, but seeing as you're here 10:36:32 <PublicServer> <Roysvork> in PZ12 there's a bit where four tracks travel between a few stations in astraight line but don't go very far 10:36:57 <PublicServer> <V453000> yeah that is just a lazy and ineffective solution :) 10:37:16 <PublicServer> <Roysvork> what does it do? 10:37:32 <PublicServer> <Roysvork> called SHI1, SHI2, etc 10:37:35 <PublicServer> <V453000> it just picks pax and returns to the ICE when it is full 10:37:36 <PublicServer> <V453000> iirc 10:37:47 *** Mitcian has joined #openttdcoop 10:37:54 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving) 10:37:55 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (number of players) 10:38:04 <V453000> yes 10:38:10 <V453000> that is just a shuttle 10:38:19 <V453000> going forth and back until full 10:39:00 <PublicServer> <Roysvork> ahaaa 10:39:11 <V453000> see the orders 10:41:27 <V453000> Roysvork: it could be added to the group where trains go in a cycle with load if available and conditional orders 10:41:32 <V453000> it works basically the same 10:41:46 <V453000> but the structure is poor so it doesnt really work very well 10:43:28 *** valhallasw has joined #openttdcoop 10:45:44 <PublicServer> <Roysvork> I like pax games, but I always find it real hard to make a good Sbhan that doesn't just end up with 1000s waiting at each station 10:46:05 <V453000> indeed 10:46:09 <V453000> it isnt easy :) 10:46:19 <V453000> if you play with a "normal" trainset... 10:46:22 <V453000> transrapids suck 10:46:37 <PublicServer> <Roysvork> right I gotta go trampolining now 10:46:43 <V453000> :) 10:46:46 <PublicServer> <Roysvork> check you in a bitski 10:46:47 <V453000> cya 10:46:50 <PublicServer> *** Roysvork has left the game (leaving) 10:46:56 *** roysvork has quit IRC 10:50:38 <Ammler> !screen 10:50:38 <PublicServer> *** Ammler liked to make screenshot of last action, but nobody was working since. (http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/screenshot.png) 10:50:45 <Ammler> hmm, what is broken? 10:51:55 <KenjiE20> did I not mention that some time ago? 10:57:15 <Mazur> You and V, and I, and more, 10:58:46 <Phazorx> we should play some major pax game with norwegian trainset again 10:59:25 <Osai> oioi 10:59:26 <V453000> norwegian trainset? :/ 10:59:39 <Mazur> 'ello 10:59:48 <Osai> V453000: I added a useful link to your wiki page 10:59:50 <V453000> I would rather like Japan ... the v.2 Beta 8 11:01:13 <V453000> Osai: woow, cool :) thanks 11:01:19 <Phazorx> havent seen any st mroe suited for pax than NWS 11:01:41 <Phazorx> they got crazy emu/dmu with like 200 pax per tile or more 11:01:49 <V453000> see US trainset 11:02:07 <Mazur> Perhaps someone should make an Ultimate trainset, with the best engines for each type and category, like best accel, best traction, best capacity, etc. 11:02:08 <Phazorx> and TL6 ICE was either 2400 or 2000 11:02:36 <V453000> Mazur: booring :p 11:03:14 <Osai> np ;) 11:03:17 <V453000> there will never be as much fun as with maglev shinkansens imo 11:03:31 <V453000> but since someone got an amazing idea to set them to monorail now ... its all fucked 11:03:43 <Osai> omg 11:03:46 <Osai> oO 11:04:03 <V453000> acceleration = 0 11:04:07 <V453000> about ... 11:05:30 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 11:05:31 <PublicServer> *** SmatZ joined the game 11:05:34 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> hello 11:05:40 <V453000> hi 11:05:48 <Mazur> Ho. 11:06:28 <PublicServer> *** SmatZ has left the game (leaving) 11:08:54 <V453000> \o/ the japan set is configurable by parameters to set them back to maglev 11:08:58 * V453000 is happy 11:09:22 <Mazur> BUt will they work as before? 11:09:31 <Mazur> ;-P 11:10:18 <V453000> yes 11:10:22 <V453000> they do 11:10:34 <V453000> the only change there are the rails 11:10:50 <Mazur> And those cause the bad accel, then? 11:11:16 <V453000> because monorail uses tractive effort, maglev does not (I think) ... therefore to reach the same acceleration, you need to have a LOT more powerful trains on monorail, than on maglev 11:11:57 <V453000> and also there is the fun when you ride 300kmh on maglev tracks + tilting trains (+20% speed in curves), you need CL2!!! for those shinkansens :) 11:11:59 <V453000> which rox 11:12:11 <V453000> you can use TL10 and have no issues with CL 11:12:38 <Mazur> That's awesome. 11:13:03 <V453000> you ever used total bridge renewal set? 11:13:13 <Mazur> CL issues can be a major pain. 11:13:14 <V453000> it cant renew roads ... these are part of the sprites 11:13:38 <V453000> and for japan set, you got special nice roads, and the total bridge renewal set for japan includes those ... another awesome thing 11:13:52 <Mazur> I think I have, but I'm still too green to notice crucial apspects of various newGRFs. 11:14:08 <V453000> it isnt that crucial :) just use total bridge renewal set and any road set 11:14:15 <V453000> you immediately see the bad things :) 11:14:30 <Mazur> You might. 11:14:32 <Mazur> :-) 11:15:43 <V453000> fuckkk 11:15:51 <V453000> it is incompatible with maglev -.- 11:16:00 <V453000> because japanese trainset must have parameter 0 11:16:03 <V453000> god damn it 11:17:32 <V453000> I hate this 11:17:33 <V453000> I hate it 11:17:35 <V453000> damn 11:18:32 *** Mitcian has quit IRC 11:35:20 *** brother- has joined #openttdcoop 11:37:10 *** roboboy has quit IRC 11:42:21 *** fonsinchen has quit IRC 11:55:44 *** roboboy has joined #openttdcoop 12:03:05 *** brother- has quit IRC 12:30:09 *** Vitus has joined #openttdcoop 12:32:49 <Vitus> Hey 12:32:53 <Vitus> !password 12:32:53 <PublicServer> Vitus: waives 12:33:14 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 12:33:14 <PublicServer> *** Vitus joined the game 12:34:57 *** pugi has joined #openttdcoop 12:37:04 <Mazur> Hiya, Pugli. 12:53:24 *** Fuco has joined #openttdcoop 12:53:28 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Fuco 12:56:19 <pugi> hi Mazur =) 13:04:02 <PublicServer> *** Vitus has left the game (leaving) 13:08:05 <Yso> !password 13:08:05 <PublicServer> Yso: easels 13:08:11 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 13:08:13 <PublicServer> *** Yso joined the game 13:12:15 *** snc has joined #openttdcoop 13:28:14 <V453000> !password 13:28:14 <PublicServer> V453000: aspens 13:28:25 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 13:28:26 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 13:28:26 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 13:28:32 <PublicServer> <V453000> hi 13:32:02 *** devilsadvocate has quit IRC 13:40:12 *** Seberoth has quit IRC 13:40:16 *** Seberoth has joined #openttdcoop 13:48:02 *** Mazur has quit IRC 13:48:22 *** heffer has quit IRC 13:50:32 *** Henri has quit IRC 13:58:51 *** Barbaar has joined #openttdcoop 14:01:33 *** perk11 has joined #openttdcoop 14:02:55 *** heffer has joined #openttdcoop 14:04:03 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (connection lost) 14:04:03 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (number of players) 14:07:36 *** perk111 has quit IRC 14:07:42 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 14:07:42 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 14:07:42 <PublicServer> *** Barbaar joined the game 14:08:19 <PublicServer> *** Barbaar has left the game (connection lost) 14:08:19 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (number of players) 14:13:31 *** perk111 has joined #openttdcoop 14:18:17 <V453000> !password 14:18:17 <PublicServer> V453000: foxier 14:18:35 *** perk11 has quit IRC 14:18:50 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 14:18:50 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 14:18:50 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 14:19:06 <Barbaar> still no other plans :( 14:19:10 <PublicServer> <V453000> yes 14:19:34 <PublicServer> <V453000> voting starts tonight 14:21:48 *** devilsadvocate has joined #openttdcoop 14:31:55 *** Max| has joined #openttdcoop 14:39:56 *** heffer has quit IRC 14:47:35 *** `real has joined #openttdcoop 14:52:45 <OwenS> V453000: Should I create a plan so we can start voting? :p 14:53:05 <V453000> if you want ... :) 14:53:15 <V453000> I will add some more probably too 14:53:22 <V453000> so there is some choice actually 14:57:23 <PublicServer> *** Owen joined the game 14:57:34 <PublicServer> <Owen> Ouch, digging up ocean is expensive 14:57:37 <PublicServer> <V453000> :) 15:02:37 <Max|> !password 15:02:37 <PublicServer> Max|: relics 15:02:58 <PublicServer> *** Max| joined the game 15:04:34 *** Mazur has joined #openttdcoop 15:05:17 <PublicServer> <V453000> hmm I forgot what was the third one :D 15:05:18 <PublicServer> <V453000> w/€ 15:06:15 <V453000> @stage Planning & Voting 15:06:16 *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG #187 (r19950) | STAGE: Planning & Voting | www.openttdcoop.org | New players, use @quickstart and !help | Screenshots: http://img.openttdcoop.org | Coopetition ladder: http://mz.openttdcoop.org/ladder | Welcome to the depths of insanity | create a wiki userpage" 15:06:30 <PublicServer> <V453000> btw chaos is bad on public server 15:06:48 <PublicServer> <V453000> even the last pax games with an actual plan ended not-so-well 15:09:41 <PublicServer> *** Barbaar joined the game 15:11:04 <PublicServer> <Barbaar> ah, that B plan sounds fun too 15:11:19 <PublicServer> <V453000> :) 15:12:45 <PublicServer> <V453000> Barbaar: your plan is interesting, but I think there are too many stations 15:13:04 <PublicServer> <Barbaar> yeah could be so 15:13:37 <PublicServer> <Barbaar> easily tweaked ofcourse 15:13:53 <PublicServer> <Barbaar> more towns per transfer, or more lvl 1's per lvl 2 or so 15:14:46 <PublicServer> <Barbaar> some towns are very close together though, so it might work better on a more spread out map 15:15:12 <PublicServer> <V453000> that is also true 15:17:32 <PublicServer> <Barbaar> small mistake in your B plan i think V 15:17:40 <PublicServer> <Owen> LLLLRRRR? In a PAX game?! 15:17:58 <PublicServer> <V453000> sure why not 15:18:00 <perk111> !win32 15:18:05 <PublicServer> <Owen> We had a huge pax game on the PZ and never exceeded LLLRRR for the mainline :o 15:18:18 <PublicServer> <Owen> Gonna be empty :p 15:18:19 <PublicServer> <V453000> well this is a central station 15:18:27 <perk111> !help 15:18:27 <PublicServer> perk111: http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/IRC_Commands 15:18:48 <perk111> !download 15:18:48 <PublicServer> perk111: !download autostart|autottd|lin|lin64|osx|ottdau|win32|win64|win9x 15:18:52 <perk111> !download win32 15:18:52 <PublicServer> perk111: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r19950/openttd-trunk-r19950-windows-win32.zip 15:19:43 <PublicServer> <Barbaar> dont know if it would be overkill for my plan. Every pax from the map will go there 15:20:14 <PublicServer> <V453000> Barbaar: it would definitely be barely possible to build 15:20:17 <PublicServer> <V453000> with that many stations 15:20:34 <perk111> !password 15:20:35 <PublicServer> perk111: alight 15:20:46 <PublicServer> <V453000> besides ... you also want to have the towns somewhere :p 15:20:49 <PublicServer> *** perk11 joined the game 15:21:09 <PublicServer> <Barbaar> can't they live underground? :p 15:23:15 <PublicServer> *** perk11 has joined company #1 15:23:33 <PublicServer> <perk11> I'm sorry, what is ICE? 15:23:56 <PublicServer> <Barbaar> inter city express 15:23:59 <PublicServer> <V453000> ^ 15:24:01 <PublicServer> <perk11> thx 15:24:34 <PublicServer> <Barbaar> usually combined with Sbahns that feed the bigger ICE station 15:25:15 *** Intexon has joined #openttdcoop 15:25:38 *** pugi_ has joined #openttdcoop 15:27:15 *** pugi has quit IRC 15:27:15 *** pugi_ is now known as pugi 15:28:15 <PublicServer> <Barbaar> that's not a bad idea either, using the fact that those damn towns are so close together :) 15:28:23 <PublicServer> <V453000> :) 15:28:52 <PublicServer> *** perk11 has left the game (leaving) 15:28:53 <PublicServer> *** Intexon joined the game 15:28:54 <PublicServer> <V453000> hi 15:28:56 <PublicServer> <V453000> :) 15:29:09 <PublicServer> <Intexon> hiya 15:29:12 <PublicServer> <Barbaar> hola 15:29:47 <PublicServer> <Intexon> wtf bug :D three plans 15:30:00 <PublicServer> <Barbaar> planmaster V 15:30:13 <PublicServer> <Owen> Barbaar: I should point out that in our game where we got to LLL_RRR MLs... We were using TL3 ICEs :p 15:31:20 <PublicServer> <Owen> Hmm... US set... So our ICEs will be Accella Expresses? 15:31:25 <PublicServer> <V453000> nah 15:31:30 <PublicServer> <V453000> SUNSET!!! 15:31:31 <PublicServer> <V453000> yaaa 15:31:44 <PublicServer> <V453000> absolutely unmatched rail ICE 15:31:47 <PublicServer> <V453000> 321 speed 15:31:54 <PublicServer> <Owen> Aah... the AX' successor? :) 15:31:55 <PublicServer> <V453000> 50k hp for TL8 15:32:03 <PublicServer> <Owen> OMG awesome 15:32:08 <PublicServer> <V453000> idk what AX is but this is HAX 15:32:08 <PublicServer> <Owen> Thats what the JPSet SHOULD be like :p 15:32:08 <PublicServer> <Barbaar> hax train 15:32:19 <PublicServer> <Owen> V453000: AX = Accella eXpress :p 15:32:20 <PublicServer> <V453000> instant loading times btw 15:32:24 <PublicServer> <V453000> ahh 15:32:31 <PublicServer> <V453000> oh and one little thingy 15:32:32 *** heffer has joined #openttdcoop 15:32:37 <PublicServer> <V453000> it is able to use double deckers :D 15:32:50 <PublicServer> <V453000> but that looks odd 15:32:53 <PublicServer> <Owen> Im so using that for my S-Bahn network 15:32:57 *** roboboy has quit IRC 15:32:58 <PublicServer> <V453000> :) 15:33:01 <PublicServer> <Owen> Sinc eI'll need it, since I'm gonna have huge tramnets :p 15:33:08 <PublicServer> <Owen> Hmm... tram or bus... Can't decide 15:33:17 *** perk111 has quit IRC 15:33:21 <PublicServer> <V453000> busses will be good too 15:33:22 <PublicServer> <Owen> Either way it will be done via underground tunnels 15:33:28 <PublicServer> <V453000> german RVset <3 15:33:41 <PublicServer> <V453000> ~200 capacity busses 15:33:58 <PublicServer> <Owen> Ooh 15:33:59 <PublicServer> <Owen> Thats hax :) 15:34:06 <PublicServer> <V453000> trams are the same 15:34:10 <PublicServer> * Owen likes V453000 C 15:34:17 * Intexon also 15:34:29 <PublicServer> <V453000> :) 15:34:34 <PublicServer> <Owen> Yay, voting board open? :) 15:34:43 <PublicServer> <V453000> ya 15:35:03 <PublicServer> <Owen> With your plan... I'm considering withdrawing mine... It should have similar effects to what I was hoping :) 15:35:41 <PublicServer> <V453000> :o 15:36:06 <PublicServer> <V453000> well chaos brings people to mindset of ... yay chaos ... now I can build whatever ...and they fuck up (psg 181) 15:36:16 *** elmz_ has joined #openttdcoop 15:36:25 <PublicServer> <Owen> True 15:36:27 <PublicServer> * Owen withdraws 15:36:54 <PublicServer> <Barbaar> 181 was still fun though :) 15:36:57 <PublicServer> <V453000> indeed 15:37:00 <PublicServer> <V453000> it was 15:37:04 <PublicServer> <Owen> C's a perfect PAX plan IMO... Not too complex 15:37:07 <PublicServer> <V453000> but because SmatZ went nuts :) 15:37:24 <PublicServer> <Owen> People always go OTT with pax plans... They don't need to... Long trains are very efficient 15:37:26 <Osai> !playercount 15:37:26 <PublicServer> Osai: Number of players: 7 15:37:31 <PublicServer> <Owen> Hi Osai 15:37:35 <Osai> hey 15:37:36 <V453000> :) 15:37:37 <Osai> !version 15:37:37 <PublicServer> Osai: Autopilot AP+ 3.0 Beta (r740:742M) 15:37:41 <Osai> still AP 15:38:30 <OwenS> I was about to ask the ProZone what it was running... But its not even running O_O 15:38:39 <Osai> ^^ 15:38:40 <PublicServer> <V453000> Barbaar: you could involve founding towns ;) 15:39:00 <V453000> ooh PZ ded 15:39:04 <V453000> how come I didnt notice :P 15:39:08 *** elmz_ has quit IRC 15:39:09 *** elmz_ has joined #openttdcoop 15:39:19 <Ammler> Hello, Osai 15:39:35 <Ammler> is Osai also around next weekend? 15:39:46 <Osai> hi Ammler 15:39:56 <Osai> at the 20k party? nope :( 15:40:01 <Ammler> or someone asked Mucht? 15:40:19 <Ammler> hmm 15:41:13 <Osai> I really would like to come 15:41:35 <Osai> but at the same time we have biggest european kendo tournament 15:41:40 <V453000> oooohh 15:41:59 <Ammler> silly prio you have :-P 15:42:06 <Osai> yes :/ 15:42:11 <Ammler> :-) 15:42:12 <V453000> lol Ammler :D 15:43:01 <Osai> if you reached that level in a special sport like this you definitely have silly prios :P 15:43:08 <Osai> !revision 15:43:08 <PublicServer> Osai: Game version is r19950 15:43:21 <V453000> :) 15:43:23 <Ammler> oh, didn't you update pm? 15:43:25 *** elmz has quit IRC 15:43:56 <OwenS> Pfft. Whats the point of putting revisions in channel topics if everyone just uses revision? ;-P 15:44:24 <V453000> ^ 15:44:31 <Ammler> OwenS: some clients have issues with reading topic 15:44:32 <planetmaker> Ammler: I compiled 15:44:35 <planetmaker> But forgot to copy 15:44:39 <planetmaker> the bundle is built 15:44:40 <Ammler> :-) 15:44:50 <OwenS> Ammler: Then thats their problem :p 15:45:01 <Ammler> also don't forget to write the finger 15:45:13 <Osai> pm / Ammler Do we still have this plan for a new server? 15:45:26 <planetmaker> which plan? 15:45:28 <V453000> new server? 15:45:39 <Ammler> Osai: at least, we didn't trash it :-) 15:45:46 <Osai> @hetzner 15:46:04 <planetmaker> well... this contract still runs for another 18 months or so 15:46:15 <Ammler> V453000: replace our vservers with a nice dedicated server 15:46:20 <Osai> oh 15:46:22 <V453000> :) 15:46:29 <Ammler> our? 15:46:35 <Osai> well, I am able to cancel my contract now 15:46:35 <planetmaker> Ammler: yes? 15:46:41 <OwenS> Hetzner? The south african company? O_o 15:46:42 <planetmaker> maybe rather 15 month 15:46:47 <Ammler> really? 15:46:48 <Osai> at least I have to do it within the next month 15:46:55 <OwenS> And you people entered into minimum length contracts on your VPSes? Pfft 15:46:59 <Ammler> hmm, I thought, it is paid for one year 15:47:15 <planetmaker> Ammler: I thought it's a 2 year contract? You did the contract. I only paid ;-) 15:47:38 <Ammler> OwenS: Germans don't trust Swiss, so we need to make such long contracts there :-) 15:47:55 <Ammler> who knows why :-P 15:48:25 <Osai> !password 15:48:25 <PublicServer> Osai: rosary 15:48:27 <OwenS> Ammler: So which of their servers you considering? The €49 one? 15:48:34 <PublicServer> *** 0sai joined the game 15:48:40 <Ammler> eq4 15:48:46 <OwenS> So yes :p 15:48:59 <OwenS> Really nice for the price :) 15:49:01 <Osai> and that kinda rocks :) 15:49:10 <Osai> well, set up is a bit silly 15:49:15 <OwenS> True 15:49:15 <Osai> 149€ 15:49:38 <Ammler> yeah it is 60€ 15:50:11 <Ammler> Osai: when does your contract end? 15:50:21 <Ammler> when you need to decide if you like to quit? 15:50:44 <Osai> my contract ends in october 15:50:45 <Yso> Ammler: why would you think that germans dont trust the swiss? we give our money to the swiss banks and trust that they dont tell anyone ^^ 15:50:49 <planetmaker> Ammler: I don't quite know when our contract ends. 15:51:00 <planetmaker> Do you have something definitive at hand? 15:51:11 <Ammler> planetmaker: lol :-) 15:51:17 <Ammler> let me check... 15:51:18 <Osai> I need to cancel till 07/14/10 15:51:18 <PublicServer> *** Barbaar has left the game (leaving) 15:51:34 <Barbaar> does a TTD server really need that much power? 15:51:42 <OwenS> Damn... /me wishes he could get a part of one of those servers 15:51:56 <Osai> why not owen :P 15:52:14 <planetmaker> Ammler: I kinda only joined when that was already renewed. Or around that time. So I think I don't have a copy of the contract 15:52:18 <Osai> send some money and you can get some bits 15:52:28 <OwenS> Osai: Sounds fun :) 15:52:45 <Osai> and with iban european money transfers are for free 15:52:45 <OwenS> Need to work out exactly what my financial situation will be come september though (Starting uni :)) 15:52:48 <planetmaker> OwenS: what would you do with it? ;-) 15:53:17 <OwenS> planetmaker: Replace my VPS? Far better value for money :p 15:53:17 <Ammler> planetmaker: 24.10.10 15:53:25 <planetmaker> but in principle sharing is no problem 15:53:28 <OwenS> TBH, depends on if you intend to run Xen or such on it 15:53:29 <PublicServer> *** Yso has joined spectators 15:53:30 <planetmaker> Ammler: that's good news :-) 15:53:41 <Ammler> so 24.7.10 is our date we need to decide 15:53:50 <Ammler> almost same as osai 15:53:50 <planetmaker> Ammler: we indeed should consider a root server 15:54:00 <planetmaker> More space, more power. 15:54:07 <Ammler> more freedom 15:54:07 <planetmaker> Not overly much more €€€ 15:54:07 <Osai> yes 15:54:17 <Osai> everything in one place 15:54:26 <planetmaker> which is also a problem somewhat :-) 15:54:42 <Osai> but we need a system to setup domains easily 15:54:50 <planetmaker> hm... what about you and OwenS share one and Ammler and myself continue with the hetzner one? 15:55:05 <Ammler> Osai: I would rather consider to make multiple servers 15:55:10 <Ammler> vpses or whatever 15:55:19 <Osai> yea 15:55:41 <Osai> well, 25€ / month is a bit too much for me pm 15:55:57 <OwenS> Probably same for me pricewise. 15:56:01 <planetmaker> ok 15:56:04 <Ammler> hmm 15:56:10 <Osai> one server should be enough imho 15:56:17 <Ammler> indeed 15:56:35 <OwenS> Its not like its the end of the world if we have downtime :-) 15:56:47 <Ammler> we don't have :-P 15:57:34 <planetmaker> OwenS: but it's not good. 15:57:47 <planetmaker> IMHO the DevZone became quite an important service 15:57:54 <planetmaker> which should have no downtime 15:58:09 *** heffer has quit IRC 15:58:18 <planetmaker> but ok, one server it is then. 15:58:51 <Ammler> again, I would like to setup multiple servers on one dedi 15:59:01 <OwenS> Ammler: Install Xen on the box :) 15:59:21 <planetmaker> what's our cumulative traffic atm on wiki + devzone + bundles? 15:59:35 <planetmaker> Ammler: I agree, that makes sense 15:59:38 <Ammler> 0.5 TB 15:59:43 <planetmaker> But still it's one server then only ;-) 15:59:52 <planetmaker> but probably more stable, if several :-) 16:00:42 <OwenS> Oh bloody bank. You're supposed to text me if that account goes overdrawn... (I so can't wait until I can get rid of my old one...) 16:01:03 <planetmaker> ok, shall we just agree on a common root server then with VPS for the single services similar as we have now vservers? 16:01:15 <OwenS> planetmaker: Sounds good :) 16:01:39 <OwenS> Great. With current USD exchange rates, I'd probably end up paying less with the dedicated server :) 16:01:54 <planetmaker> you'll only get a VPS anyway :-P 16:02:12 <OwenS> planetmaker: Sure, I know. But its a significantly more powerful one :p 16:02:15 <Ammler> yes, but you can get make the vps more independent 16:02:39 <planetmaker> more independent? Than what? 16:02:43 <Ammler> and we could clone a vps to test a upgrade :-) 16:03:08 <planetmaker> Ammler: yep, very much so. I like especially that option - though I have personally no idea how to go for it. 16:03:13 <Ammler> planetmaker: some services need more cpu, some more memory 16:03:17 <planetmaker> But I'm confident that you're ingenous enough :-) 16:03:23 <planetmaker> ah, yes. 16:03:24 <OwenS> Ammler: Though you'd have a 4 IP limit issue to work with 16:03:46 <OwenS> Though I suppose you could run most services behind a load balancing webserver 16:03:51 <Ammler> OwenS: I am sure, that can be handled with some tunnels :-) 16:04:04 <Ammler> or nat 16:04:07 <OwenS> Load balancing? WTF am I thinking :p 16:04:11 <OwenS> But yeah :) 16:04:25 <planetmaker> we should try IPv6 16:04:25 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (connection lost) 16:04:38 <OwenS> planetmaker: On debian based systems its really simple 16:04:38 <planetmaker> OwenS: load balancing make only sense for physical servers 16:05:03 <OwenS> planetmaker: Yeah. I'm thinking of you'd have a lightweight front end (nginx? :)) to send requests to the backend servers 16:05:37 <Ammler> OwenS: we use it already on the devzone 16:05:41 *** heffer has joined #openttdcoop 16:06:14 <Barbaar> what would be a good savegame to test my ttd server? So far everything seems to run fine on my amd 2500+ 16:06:27 <OwenS> Ammler: I must admit I just switched from nginx to Cherokee for some features 16:07:01 <Ammler> well, such things aren't needed to decide now... 16:07:07 <V453000> !password 16:07:07 <PublicServer> V453000: clammy 16:07:07 <OwenS> True 16:07:18 <OwenS> And for such a front end, I'd probably stick with nginx 16:07:22 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 16:09:28 <PublicServer> *** 0sai has left the game (connection lost) 16:09:59 <planetmaker> !playercount 16:09:59 <PublicServer> planetmaker: Number of players: 6 16:10:15 <planetmaker> folks, I gonna update the server to current nightly. 16:10:27 <planetmaker> so don't wonder when you'll get kicked in 10 16:10:29 <planetmaker> 9 16:10:32 <planetmaker> ... ;-) 16:10:52 <V453000> 0 16:10:55 <OwenS> planetmaker: What revision? 16:11:02 <PublicServer> *** Owen has left the game (leaving) 16:11:18 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving) 16:11:18 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (number of players) 16:12:21 <planetmaker> !rcon save update 16:12:22 <PublicServer> planetmaker: Saving map... 16:12:22 <PublicServer> planetmaker: Map successfully saved to update.sav 16:12:36 <PublicServer> *** Max| has left the game (leaving) 16:12:45 <PublicServer> Server closed down by admin 16:12:45 <PublicServer> Saving game... 16:12:48 <PublicServer> Server has exited 16:12:49 *** PublicServer has quit IRC 16:15:18 *** PublicServer has joined #openttdcoop 16:15:18 <PublicServer> Autopilot engaged 16:15:18 <PublicServer> Loading default savegame 16:15:18 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v PublicServer 16:15:18 *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG #187 (r19967) | STAGE: Planning & Voting | www.openttdcoop.org | New players, use @quickstart and !help | Screenshots: http://img.openttdcoop.org | Coopetition ladder: http://mz.openttdcoop.org/ladder | Welcome to the depths of insanity | create a wiki userpage" 16:16:16 <planetmaker> !revision 16:16:16 <PublicServer> planetmaker: Game version is r19967 16:17:02 <Max|> !dl win32 16:17:03 <PublicServer> Max|: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r19967/openttd-trunk-r19967-windows-win32.zip 16:17:18 <PublicServer> *** Owen joined the game 16:19:41 <Max|> !password 16:19:41 <PublicServer> Max|: simile 16:19:54 <PublicServer> *** Max| joined the game 16:20:00 <PublicServer> *** Amm1er joined the game 16:20:22 *** pugi has quit IRC 16:20:29 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 16:22:13 *** fonsinchen has joined #openttdcoop 16:22:36 <PublicServer> <Amm1er> why don't you full load the planes? 16:23:09 <PublicServer> <Amm1er> and what is with the 2nd airport? 16:23:31 <PublicServer> *** Amm1er has left the game (leaving) 16:23:59 <OwenS> Ammler: The first airports werent' able to fill the planes 16:24:15 <OwenS> As for why not full load.. The traffic in each direction is not equal 16:24:40 <PublicServer> <V453000> it doesnt really matter imo 16:24:47 <PublicServer> <V453000> it makes cash :) 16:25:30 <planetmaker> hm, additional IPs only require a one-time fee as far as I see it at the Hetzner page 16:25:39 *** pugi has joined #openttdcoop 16:25:40 <planetmaker> http://www.hetzner.de/de/hosting/produkte_rootserver/flexipack/ 16:25:42 <Webster> Title: Hetzner Online AG: Flexi-Pack (at www.hetzner.de) 16:26:23 <planetmaker> hm. no 16:26:28 <planetmaker> 15€ per month 16:28:44 <OwenS> At least IPs are otherwise a one off 16:29:44 <OwenS> With 4 of us, it pushes the price to €16/mo ~ £13.31/mo 16:32:23 *** Keyboard_Warrior has joined #openttdcoop 16:32:37 <OwenS> Still actually a pretty decent price :) 16:34:54 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has joined spectators 16:35:03 <V453000> dinner :) 16:37:49 <PublicServer> *** Intexon joined the game 16:39:12 *** theholyduck has quit IRC 16:56:41 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving) 17:03:55 <PublicServer> <Owen> Anyone else gonna vote? 17:03:57 <PublicServer> * Owen is lonely 17:06:13 *** Wun-Qu has joined #openttdcoop 17:06:26 <Wun-Qu> !password 17:06:26 <PublicServer> Wun-Qu: asylum 17:06:43 <PublicServer> <Intexon> ;) 17:06:45 <Wun-Qu> lol I only get the best passwords 17:07:27 <Wun-Qu> damn another version 17:07:36 <Wun-Qu> !dl win32 17:07:36 <PublicServer> Wun-Qu: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r19967/openttd-trunk-r19967-windows-win32.zip 17:13:20 *** Vitus has quit IRC 17:13:39 *** Henri has joined #openttdcoop 17:13:44 *** perk11 has joined #openttdcoop 17:14:28 <Henri> did welcome stable server just crashed or smth? 17:14:37 <V453000> yea 17:14:39 <V453000> I think so 17:15:02 <Henri> :/ what happens now? 17:15:58 <OwenS> Someone hopefully restarts it 17:16:03 <V453000> someone :) 17:16:05 <V453000> !password 17:16:13 <V453000> hey bitch 17:16:18 <V453000> password I said 17:16:27 <V453000> :o 17:16:29 <Wun-Qu> the pass is asylum 17:16:32 <V453000> this thing dead too? 17:16:39 <OwenS> Ammler? 17:16:44 <Ammler> I guess, the server is down 17:16:46 <Ammler> ps 17:16:51 <V453000> I see 17:16:51 <Ammler> no ssh access 17:16:54 <OwenS> Yeah 17:16:56 <OwenS> Game has frozen here 17:16:59 <Henri> would someone then please restart it, or load last autosave? 17:17:05 <Henri> :o all crashed 17:17:05 <Henri> nice 17:17:19 <Ammler> Henri: good suggestion :-P 17:18:00 <Ammler> @stage we take a break :-P 17:18:00 *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG #187 (r19967) | STAGE: we take a break :-P | www.openttdcoop.org | New players, use @quickstart and !help | Screenshots: http://img.openttdcoop.org | Coopetition ladder: http://mz.openttdcoop.org/ladder | Welcome to the depths of insanity | create a wiki userpage" 17:18:06 <V453000> :o 17:18:08 <PeterT> lol 17:18:09 <V453000> :) 17:18:33 <V453000> we are all going to die! 17:18:39 <Ammler> you can continue on dev, if you like 17:18:40 <OwenS> V453000: Why did nobody tell me that ABR05 was up on ze blog? :p 17:18:43 <PeterT> no, now we can get real jobs 17:19:02 <V453000> ze twitter got overloaded and didnt update tweets OwenS :p 17:19:27 <V453000> If I am supposed to blame someone or something other than me .p 17:19:29 <PeterT> @twitter 17:19:32 <PeterT> @tweet 17:19:39 <OwenS> PeterT: Twitter is a PublicServer service 17:19:42 *** PublicServer has quit IRC 17:19:42 <V453000> PetetT: is is online again 17:19:44 <PeterT> D: 17:19:51 <V453000> damn :) 17:20:04 <PeterT> I know it was, that's why tried with Webster 17:20:11 <PeterT> since ps is done anyway 17:20:11 <V453000> :) 17:22:25 *** Vitus has joined #openttdcoop 17:24:05 <Henri> well welcome stable is still offline 17:24:46 <PeterT> thanks for noticing 17:24:56 <Razaekel> @blog 17:24:59 <Webster> #openttdcoop - http://www.openttdcoop.org/blog/?s= 17:36:27 *** Barbaar is now known as BarbaarTTD 17:37:16 *** BarbaarTTD is now known as Barbaar 17:38:39 *** perk11 has quit IRC 17:39:04 *** Wun-Qu has quit IRC 17:52:31 *** Henri has quit IRC 17:57:10 *** perk11 has joined #openttdcoop 18:02:15 *** Vitus has quit IRC 18:10:40 <Fuco> every time I want to check out a game the server is dead... I smell conspiracy. 18:12:58 <V453000> :D 18:20:20 <Fuco> It's probably for the best because of the exams. 18:21:31 <SmatZ> so... Fico won the election 18:21:39 <Ammler> maybe phönix has exams too 18:21:54 <Ammler> @seen Phoenix_II 18:21:54 <Webster> Ammler: I have not seen Phoenix_II. 18:21:57 <Ammler> @seen Phoenix* 18:21:57 <Webster> Ammler: Phoenix* could be Phoenix_the_II (13 weeks, 5 days, 20 hours, 42 minutes, and 9 seconds ago) or PhoenixII (21 weeks, 4 days, 20 hours, and 57 seconds ago) 18:22:11 <Fuco> SmatZ, well, he won but he's screwed anyway 18:22:56 <Fuco> prettu much like CSSD in Czech 18:25:57 <V453000> :) 18:27:17 *** Henri has joined #openttdcoop 18:27:24 <Henri> hello again 18:27:42 <Henri> anyone knows why welcome stable server is still offline? 18:27:54 <planetmaker> no one re-started it possibly ;-) 18:28:34 <planetmaker> !revision 18:31:59 *** PublicServer has joined #openttdcoop 18:31:59 <PublicServer> Autopilot engaged 18:31:59 <PublicServer> Loading savegame: '#openttdcoop - The Public Server (www.openttdcoop.org)' 18:31:59 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v PublicServer 18:31:59 *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG #187 (r19967) | STAGE: we take a break :-P | www.openttdcoop.org | New players, use @quickstart and !help | Screenshots: http://img.openttdcoop.org | Coopetition ladder: http://mz.openttdcoop.org/ladder | Welcome to the depths of insanity | create a wiki userpage" 18:32:41 <V453000> working? 18:32:42 <V453000> !password 18:32:42 <PublicServer> V453000: ramble 18:32:53 <PublicServer> *** Intexon joined the game 18:33:01 <V453000> :) 18:33:05 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 18:33:34 *** KyleS has joined #openttdcoop 18:34:39 *** Vitus has joined #openttdcoop 18:36:24 <PublicServer> *** Intexon has left the game (connection lost) 18:36:25 *** KyleS has quit IRC 18:36:34 <Vitus> !dl win32 18:36:34 <PublicServer> Vitus: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r19967/openttd-trunk-r19967-windows-win32.zip 18:37:04 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has joined company #1 18:39:24 <Vitus> !password 18:39:25 <PublicServer> Vitus: ramble 18:39:29 <PublicServer> *** Intexon joined the game 18:39:38 <PublicServer> *** Intexon has joined spectators 18:39:40 <PublicServer> *** Vitus joined the game 18:39:43 <PublicServer> <V453000> ello 18:39:53 <PublicServer> <Intexon> hi Vitus 18:39:56 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Hey 18:41:11 <PublicServer> *** Intexon has left the game (connection lost) 18:41:36 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Hmmm, hard to say. A or C? :) 18:42:07 <PublicServer> <V453000> C 18:42:31 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Hmmm, OK 18:42:44 <PublicServer> <V453000> can I vote for myself? :D 18:42:56 <PublicServer> <V453000> or ... one of my clones 18:42:59 <PublicServer> <Vitus> V453000A can vote of either B or C 18:43:02 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Rename! 18:43:03 <PublicServer> <V453000> yea :D 18:43:15 * KenjiE20 gets his stick 18:43:23 <PublicServer> <V453000> oh yeah pounding comes 18:43:24 <Phazorx> !screen 18:43:40 <KenjiE20> I worry about you sometimes V 18:43:46 <KenjiE20> not for long, but I do 18:43:46 <V453000> why 18:43:52 <Vitus> Oh, still no SS :( 18:44:13 <Vitus> What was the problem with webcam again? 18:44:30 <KenjiE20> script is borked this time 18:44:40 <Vitus> Ah, I see 18:44:47 <KenjiE20> Ammler: go look 18:45:10 <V453000> @stage Voting 18:45:10 *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG #187 (r19967) | STAGE: Voting | www.openttdcoop.org | New players, use @quickstart and !help | Screenshots: http://img.openttdcoop.org | Coopetition ladder: http://mz.openttdcoop.org/ladder | Welcome to the depths of insanity | create a wiki userpage" 18:45:30 <Phazorx> lol and revision has changed since this morning? 18:45:35 <V453000> yes 18:45:36 <Vitus> Yup 18:45:39 <Phazorx> why? 18:45:53 <Ammler> to annoy you :-P 18:45:54 <KenjiE20> because the build has been broken for the lsat two games 18:45:56 *** fonsinchen has quit IRC 18:46:01 <V453000> :) 18:46:12 <Vitus> You could have waited for today's nightly, though :) 18:46:13 <Phazorx> we had 2 games with 19950 since this morning? 18:46:16 <V453000> why does Kenji worry about me? :( 18:46:33 <perk11> !download win32 18:46:33 <PublicServer> perk11: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r19967/openttd-trunk-r19967-windows-win32.zip 18:46:34 <KenjiE20> you seem to want to be beaten up 18:46:39 <V453000> ahh 18:46:44 * V453000 slaps V453000 around a bit with a large fishbot 18:46:48 <V453000> wee 18:47:01 <Vitus> Silly V. 18:47:16 <V453000> :) 18:47:19 <Ammler> Phazorx: we can have one game with different revs 18:47:29 <Phazorx> Ammler: why would you? 18:47:30 <perk11> !password 18:47:30 <PublicServer> perk11: brewed 18:47:31 * Vitus slaps V. even more. 18:47:33 <Phazorx> not enough issues? 18:47:39 <Ammler> :-) 18:47:39 <KenjiE20> yes 18:47:42 <PublicServer> *** perk11 joined the game 18:48:12 * V453000 hits Vitus back 18:48:25 * Vitus rages! 18:48:26 * V453000 has only one Master 18:48:36 <V453000> and that Master is KenjiE20 18:48:41 <perk11> Three plans by V453000 18:48:42 <KenjiE20> o.O 18:48:43 <perk11> Oh 18:48:50 <Vitus> I thought it was Emperor Palpatine 18:48:53 <Ammler> could someone make a action on the server? 18:49:01 <KenjiE20> there has been Ammler 18:49:08 <KenjiE20> unless you changed something? 18:49:08 <Ammler> and those are logged now? 18:49:12 <KenjiE20> yes 18:49:13 <V453000> Ammler: I just did 18:49:14 <Ammler> !screen 18:49:45 <PublicServer> <V453000> perk11: nobody plans, so I made more so voters can choose :) 18:50:22 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Hey ,wasn't the company name "MoneyWasters"? :D 18:50:44 <PublicServer> <perk11> It was 18:50:44 <PublicServer> <V453000> I thought monkeys are better 18:50:45 <KenjiE20> does it matter? 18:51:00 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Nah... 18:51:03 <KenjiE20> (so long as it isn't rude) 18:51:09 <V453000> I prefer wasting monkeys over money 18:51:19 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Poor monkeys 18:51:22 <KenjiE20> they're harder to waste too 18:51:25 <PublicServer> <perk11> V453000: Where do you take monkeys? 18:51:33 <KenjiE20> the zoo? 18:51:38 <V453000> yea 18:51:40 <V453000> best waste place 18:51:41 <PublicServer> <Vitus> I agree, this isn't tropic climate :D 18:51:44 <Ammler> !screen 18:52:06 *** Henri has quit IRC 18:53:16 <Ammler> hmm, did you revert autopilot? 18:53:20 <Phazorx> !password 18:53:21 <PublicServer> Phazorx: brewed 18:53:31 <PublicServer> *** Phazorx joined the game 18:53:34 <PublicServer> *** Owen joined the game 18:53:43 <PublicServer> Server closed down by admin 18:53:43 <PublicServer> Saving game... 18:53:46 <PublicServer> Server has exited 18:53:47 *** PublicServer has quit IRC 18:53:56 *** PublicServer has joined #openttdcoop 18:53:56 <PublicServer> Autopilot engaged 18:53:56 <PublicServer> Loading default savegame 18:53:56 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v PublicServer 18:53:56 <OwenS> Ammler: Is !screen working now 18:53:56 *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG #187 (r19967) | STAGE: Voting | www.openttdcoop.org | New players, use @quickstart and !help | Screenshots: http://img.openttdcoop.org | Coopetition ladder: http://mz.openttdcoop.org/ladder | Welcome to the depths of insanity | create a wiki userpage" 18:54:01 <Phazorx> nice 18:54:08 <Phazorx> first time in months i try to log in 18:54:08 <KenjiE20> lol 18:54:09 <Ammler> !screen 18:54:10 <PublicServer> *** Ammler liked to make screenshot of last action, but nobody was working since. (http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/screenshot.png) 18:54:11 <PublicServer> *** Owen joined the game 18:54:12 <planetmaker> what did you do? Re-compile? 18:54:12 <perk11> !password 18:54:12 <PublicServer> perk11: broker 18:54:15 <Phazorx> and you guys reboot it on me? 18:54:23 <Phazorx> waited all that long just for that? 18:54:30 <PublicServer> *** Vitus joined the game 18:54:31 <Ammler> :-D 18:54:32 <PublicServer> *** perk11 joined the game 18:54:35 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 18:54:43 <Ammler> I _am_ really sorry Phazorx :-) 18:54:49 <Vitus> Don't be so negative :) 18:55:19 <Phazorx> not like there was much to look at... but that's beside the point 18:55:29 <PublicServer> *** Amm1er joined the game 18:55:37 <Ammler> !screen 18:55:40 <PublicServer> *** Ammler made screenshot at 000025C8: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/000025C8.png 18:55:52 <Vitus> Three cheers! 18:56:02 <PublicServer> *** Amm1er has left the game (leaving) 18:56:12 <Ammler> Phazorx: one slot free for you ^ 18:56:41 <KenjiE20> @tweet webcam is (hopefully) back 18:56:42 <Webster> KenjiE20: Posted. 18:57:01 <Ammler> KenjiE20: thanks for your trust :-P 18:57:16 <KenjiE20> :D 18:58:14 <KenjiE20> it's only been dead for what? three weeks? :P 18:58:23 <PublicServer> *** perk11 has left the game (leaving) 18:58:46 <Vitus> Whole PSG186 18:59:09 <Ammler> KenjiE20: I know since V453000 told me around 2 days ago? 18:59:30 <KenjiE20> 25th June it died 18:59:37 <V453000> :) 18:59:56 <Ammler> but I have no idea, why you reverted ap+ 18:59:59 <V453000> Vitus: most of 185 too 19:03:10 *** perk111 has joined #openttdcoop 19:08:57 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000026C8: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/000026C8.png 19:09:11 *** perk11 has quit IRC 19:09:13 *** perk11 has joined #openttdcoop 19:13:22 <Max|> !password 19:13:22 <PublicServer> Max|: tooled 19:13:38 <PublicServer> *** Max| joined the game 19:14:23 *** perk1111 has joined #openttdcoop 19:15:12 *** perk111 has quit IRC 19:17:54 *** Wun-Qu has joined #openttdcoop 19:18:11 <Wun-Qu> !password 19:18:12 <PublicServer> Wun-Qu: tooled 19:18:29 <PublicServer> *** Wun-Qu joined the game 19:18:37 <PublicServer> <Wun-Qu> Hello all 19:19:17 *** perk11 has quit IRC 19:19:32 <Keyboard_Warrior> stage voting eh 19:19:59 *** Keyboard_Warrior has quit IRC 19:20:27 <KenjiE20> damn dictators 19:20:44 <planetmaker> [x] yes 19:20:52 <planetmaker> [ ] no 19:21:00 <planetmaker> please make your choice ;-) 19:21:19 * KenjiE20 spoils his ballot 19:21:30 <planetmaker> ballots with two votes are void ;-) 19:24:15 *** theholyduck has joined #openttdcoop 19:25:40 <hylje> [ ] you mad? 19:26:58 <V453000> [ ] guess 19:26:59 <theholyduck> we all are 19:27:00 <theholyduck> i think 19:27:31 <PublicServer> *** Barbaar joined the game 19:27:33 <theholyduck> !password 19:27:33 <PublicServer> theholyduck: crocus 19:27:54 <theholyduck> updated version mid game, effort 19:27:57 <theholyduck> !dl win64 19:27:57 <PublicServer> theholyduck: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r19967/openttd-trunk-r19967-windows-win64.zip 19:28:38 <PublicServer> *** Barbaar has left the game (leaving) 19:29:04 <PublicServer> *** theholyduck joined the game 19:29:14 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> v, you made 3 plans eh? 19:29:24 <PublicServer> <V453000> well better than if we had 2 ;) 19:30:19 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> i like A the most personally 19:30:22 <PublicServer> <V453000> :) 19:30:43 <PublicServer> *** theholyduck has left the game (connection lost) 19:31:33 *** Progman has quit IRC 19:34:48 *** Progman has joined #openttdcoop 19:36:44 <PublicServer> *** Wun-Qu has left the game (leaving) 19:39:00 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00000000: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00000000.png 19:39:10 <Ammler> :-o 19:39:14 <Ammler> 0x0 19:40:05 <planetmaker> hm. the coordinates are certainly different 19:40:12 <V453000> :D 19:40:16 *** perk11 has joined #openttdcoop 19:41:27 *** perk1111 has quit IRC 19:41:44 *** Vitus has quit IRC 19:41:49 <PublicServer> *** Vitus has left the game (leaving) 19:42:34 <PublicServer> *** Intexon joined the game 19:44:36 *** perk111 has joined #openttdcoop 19:50:21 *** perk11 has quit IRC 19:56:32 *** perk11 has joined #openttdcoop 20:00:26 *** gnemonix has joined #openttdcoop 20:00:37 *** perk1111 has joined #openttdcoop 20:01:41 *** perk111 has quit IRC 20:03:36 <gnemonix> !dl 20:03:36 <PublicServer> gnemonix: !dl autostart|autottd|lin|lin64|osx|ottdau|win32|win64|win9x 20:03:49 <gnemonix> !dl lin 20:03:49 <PublicServer> gnemonix: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r19967/openttd-trunk-r19967-linux-generic-i686.tar.bz2 20:05:35 *** perk11 has quit IRC 20:09:22 <gnemonix> !password 20:09:22 <PublicServer> gnemonix: taming 20:09:47 <PublicServer> *** Gnemonix joined the game 20:13:33 *** brother- has joined #openttdcoop 20:14:27 <PublicServer> *** Intexon has joined spectators 20:18:54 *** brother- has left #openttdcoop 20:22:39 *** Kolo has joined #openttdcoop 20:26:10 *** Progman has quit IRC 20:31:02 *** Progman has joined #openttdcoop 20:33:06 *** Seppel has joined #openttdcoop 20:35:55 <PublicServer> *** Intexon has left the game (leaving) 20:35:56 <pugi> 4:0 :D:D 20:37:15 <PublicServer> *** Sepp joined the game 20:38:41 <PublicServer> *** Sepp has left the game (leaving) 20:43:53 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving) 20:44:07 *** Intexon has quit IRC 20:48:21 *** Progman has quit IRC 20:51:01 *** Progman has joined #openttdcoop 20:58:14 *** Wouterr has joined #openttdcoop 20:58:20 <theholyduck> pugi, why did i think you were talking about chroma subsampling for a second there? 20:58:36 <theholyduck> ;( any thing that starts with 4: makes me think of chroma subsampling 20:58:42 <theholyduck> i really am a hopeless nerd 20:58:49 <OwenS> lol 20:59:12 <theholyduck> chroma subsampling makes me a sad sad panda 20:59:19 <theholyduck> rather, the fact that its still around 20:59:29 <theholyduck> and that we still use it in this day and age of bandwidth and diskspace 20:59:36 <Wouterr> !dl win32 20:59:36 <PublicServer> Wouterr: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r19967/openttd-trunk-r19967-windows-win32.zip 21:01:18 <Wouterr> !password 21:01:18 <PublicServer> Wouterr: gambit 21:01:27 <PublicServer> *** Wouterr joined the game 21:01:37 <Wouterr> good evening 21:03:49 <PublicServer> <Wouterr> heh V453000 made 3 plans :p 21:04:00 <V453000> nobody make plans :( 21:04:06 <V453000> me make plans 21:04:07 <V453000> :P 21:04:48 <PublicServer> <Wouterr> can't help, i am a pax noob :) 21:06:06 <V453000> as long as our games end up successfully, I am fine with everything :) 21:06:52 <PublicServer> <Wouterr> i like plan C 21:07:16 *** Yso has quit IRC 21:07:22 <Wouterr> a bit like PSG 131 21:07:54 <theholyduck> i've never played pax before 21:08:17 <PublicServer> <Wouterr> *PSG 129 i mean 21:08:36 <V453000> :) 21:08:54 <perk1111> Am I the only one who likes B? :( 21:10:19 <PublicServer> <Wouterr> hmm think i have a good idea 21:12:10 <Wouterr> are half sized ICE trains possible? 21:13:21 <V453000> yes 21:13:23 <V453000> any size 21:18:08 <PublicServer> <Wouterr> ok plan is redy 21:21:39 *** perk1111 has quit IRC 21:21:53 *** Yexo has joined #openttdcoop 21:23:21 *** perk11 has joined #openttdcoop 21:24:02 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000035B9: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/000035B9.png 21:27:03 <V453000> !screen 21:27:03 <PublicServer> *** V453000 liked to make screenshot of last action, but nobody was working since. (http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/screenshot.png) 21:27:34 <Phazorx> is webcam still busted? 21:27:50 <OwenS> Nope 21:28:08 <OwenS> Except it seems to like corners? 21:28:27 <Wouterr> !screen 21:28:29 <PublicServer> *** Wouterr made screenshot at 000033B5: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/000033B5.png 21:28:56 <Wouterr> :) my awesome plan 21:29:14 <V453000> there we go 21:29:33 <perk11> oh 21:30:52 <Wun-Qu> goal: no more grass...? 21:32:14 <Phazorx> should name company GrayPeace 21:32:23 <perk11> :D 21:32:27 <Wouterr> :) 21:32:57 <Phazorx> may i give some pointers to that plan? 21:33:18 <Wouterr> sure 21:33:33 <Phazorx> statistically, wont the link between 2 middle terminal have more traffic than other 2 links? 21:34:19 <Phazorx> then, wouldnt it make more sense to have them be different width if they have different amount of traffic? 21:34:20 *** hylje has quit IRC 21:34:34 <Phazorx> width in terms of lanes obvioudly 21:34:48 <PublicServer> <Wouterr> hmm interesting 21:35:00 <Phazorx> sort of basic engineering :) 21:35:23 <Wouterr> indeed middle trains have 33% more traffic :) 21:35:41 <Phazorx> well that might depend on sizes of all terminals 21:36:51 <Wouterr> they should be big :) 21:37:00 <Phazorx> but in general there can be 6 possible routes of p2p kind, and 4 of them go through middle, they also longer, so more trains will be needed for same amount of passengers as on shorter routes 21:37:30 <Phazorx> i;d say up to 80% of trains will be using middle link 21:37:40 <Phazorx> and 30-40% side ones 21:37:49 <pugi> [22:58:20] <theholyduck> pugi, why did i think you were talking about chroma subsampling for a second there? 21:37:50 <Phazorx> so it might need to be twice the size 21:38:00 <pugi> no, germany won 4:0 vs australia in soccer world cup 21:38:32 <V453000> kangaroos dont play football 21:38:58 <Phazorx> platypus might 21:39:04 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00000000: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00000000.png 21:39:07 <Wouterr> well i think the 4 lanes are ok for the middle, maybe a bit much for the sides 21:39:13 *** perk111 has joined #openttdcoop 21:39:34 <Phazorx> my point was they need to be different 21:39:45 <Phazorx> how wide, that's up to plan maker :) 21:41:15 <PublicServer> <Wouterr> voila 21:41:29 <perk111> !screen 21:41:29 <PublicServer> *** perk111 liked to make screenshot of last action, but nobody was working since. 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