Log for #openttdcoop on 1st June 2012:
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09:16:19  <Alk_> @quickstart
09:16:19  <Webster> Quickstart - #openttdcoop Wiki -
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13:33:56  <Hazzard> !ping
13:33:57  <PublicServer> Hazzard: pong
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15:11:32  <Vinnie_nl> !playercount
15:11:32  <PublicServer> Vinnie_nl: Number of players: 0 (0 spectators)
15:11:36  <Vinnie_nl> :(
15:11:40  <Vinnie_nl> so said
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15:16:44  <Vinnie_nl> @logs
15:16:45  <Webster> #openttdcoop IRC webstuff - IRC Log Viewer -
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15:31:47  <Vinnie_nl> !password
15:31:47  <PublicServer> Vinnie_nl: ampler
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16:32:46  <Locomotor> !password
16:32:46  <PublicServer> Locomotor: miners
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16:37:42  <PublicServer> <TWerkhoven> ello
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16:39:08  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> hey
16:39:50  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> they dont play for money here
16:41:10  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> but finaly unpaused :)
16:41:57  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> yeah that took 4 day to happen
16:42:21  <PublicServer> <TWerkhoven> im just fixing !cl atm
16:45:52  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> ~
16:48:48  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> lets call an admin soon
16:51:15  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> this isnt good
16:51:18  <PublicServer> <TWerkhoven> jam?
16:51:28  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> yeah
16:52:06  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> Pforzheim: forrest 1
16:52:35  <PublicServer> <TWerkhoven> loco, can you please talk in [all] instead of team?
16:52:52  <PublicServer> <Locomotor> oops srry didnt know it whas team
16:53:46  <PublicServer> <Vinnie>  @@SBJ
16:54:12  <PublicServer> <Locomotor> lol 30bill down the drain what happend
16:54:38  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> team chat is a setting
16:54:44  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> go to advanced settings
16:55:19  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> interface>interaction>prefer team chat with enter off
16:55:40  <PublicServer> <Locomotor> lol solved
16:56:09  <Alk_> Hi, can anyone tell if this is a us or eu based server?
16:56:29  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> Server is located in germany, but players from arround the world
16:56:55  <PublicServer> <Locomotor> who just whent in as admin that's odd
16:56:55  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> Only english language is allowed
16:57:12  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> thats the irc bridge, not admin
16:57:26  <TWerkhoven> :p
16:57:54  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> SLH04 to east exit is slow
16:57:54  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> but i cant see why
17:02:52  <PublicServer> <Locomotor> i am going again  becausse i am going 2 play GuildWars2 Beta Shortly
17:02:58  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> cya
17:02:59  <Alk_> Ok, i heard about this a few days ago, and am most intrigued to play, but i must find all the newgrfs's first, and maybe i should try the open passwordless test server first
17:03:00  <PublicServer> <TWerkhoven> have fun
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17:03:28  <Vinnie_nl> Alk, well depens on what you really want
17:03:45  <Vinnie_nl> teamwork is this server, with good planning intersting games
17:03:59  <Vinnie_nl> other one is more solo, showoff what you can do and compete
17:04:07  <Alk_> i'd like some building practice and get to know the more advanced things, and do teamwork
17:04:20  <Vinnie_nl> i recomend this server then
17:05:11  <Alk_>  from the wiki, which is mostly good, some niches i'd criticize, but for that later, (first sentence now continues) i learnt all the basic things, and read that a more advanced player can guide the first steps
17:05:29  <Vinnie_nl> ABR's are really nice to read
17:05:37  <Vinnie_nl> @ABR
17:05:44  <Vinnie_nl> @@ABR
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17:06:11  <PublicServer> <Locomotor> vinnie i asked something directly 2 you
17:06:22  <Vinnie_nl> do you have the correct gameversion?
17:06:51  <Alk_> i should, from the public server page it gave me a rc version
17:07:15  <Vinnie_nl> most easy way to get is to type this
17:07:18  <Alk_> i'm missing the grf's, but i searched for some, but couldnt find some, so i thought i'd wait for the reset
17:07:19  <Webster> Read the Quickstart - #openttdcoop Wiki - (again, try !grf)
17:07:21  <Vinnie_nl> !dl win64
17:07:21  <PublicServer> Vinnie_nl:
17:07:48  <Vinnie_nl> so its not an RC version but an R#
17:07:54  <Alk_> btw, whats the ABR you were talking about?
17:08:14  <Vinnie_nl> Advanced building revenue, found in the blog on the webpage
17:08:19  <Alk_> i got r24217, working fine, some sprites are missing tho
17:09:07  <Alk_> !grf
17:09:07  <PublicServer> Alk_: (Version 8.0)
17:09:27  <Vinnie_nl> did you install the version 8 pack?
17:09:43  <Alk_> i've read the quickstart, but the ver8 pack isnt downloading, except when i paus and unpause it rapidly
17:10:13  <Alk_> i should try a diffirent browser tho
17:10:32  <Vinnie_nl> no i also get an error message, so maybe a broken link
17:10:59  <Alk_> mine starts downloading in firefox, but as i said, it only downloads for a brief moment affter i unpause it
17:11:50  <Alk_> same happens for chrome, so the problem shoulnt be on my side
17:12:36  <Vinnie_nl> no i got the same error
17:14:17  <Vinnie_nl> let me see if i can pack my grf folder and send it to you
17:14:19  <KenjiE20> Alk_: follow @@quickstart
17:14:20  <Webster> Quickstart - #openttdcoop Wiki -
17:15:03  <Vinnie_nl> btw does this help
17:15:35  <Vinnie_nl> KenjiE20: weblink goes to some wierd page for the zip, not the download itself. Link appears broken
17:16:56  <KenjiE20> hm, I guess someone broke bundles ... ^Spike^ Ammler
17:17:03  <PublicServer> <TWerkhoven> vinnie: working on anything?
17:19:29  <Ammler> KenjiE20: you mean "nobody fixed it" :-(
17:19:44  <KenjiE20> I don't know
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17:22:29  <Ammler> It's not grfpack
17:22:36  <Ammler> ah
17:22:40  <PublicServer> <Locomotor> lol i have 2 wait a week when the beta starts i just found out i have gotten the game pretty early then
17:22:49  <Ammler> I menat not htaccess
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17:22:57  <PublicServer> <Locomotor> who just pausse the game
17:22:58  <Ammler> apache crap
17:23:03  <KenjiE20> I would never have guess, what with the 502 and all >.>
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17:23:11  <PublicServer> <Locomotor> aaah ok
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17:25:46  <KenjiE20> Alk_: try now
17:26:34  <KenjiE20> nvm
17:27:21  <Ammler>
17:27:31  <Ammler> the data files from server
17:27:59  <KenjiE20> I have a feeling bundles is missing a MIME type for archives
17:28:29  <Ammler> are yo able to download anyting?
17:28:35  <KenjiE20> only the text files
17:29:08  <Ammler> well, no clue since when it doesn't work
17:29:18  <Ammler> and why
17:29:30  <Ammler> but I shoud first now get dev working again
17:29:39  <Ammler> and then I might not have time fr bundles :-
17:30:30  <Alk_> ok im back now, sorry for not saying that i was afk, had to leave suddenly
17:30:49  <Alk_> taking the indexed list of latest grf pack didnt work before
17:30:51  <KenjiE20> Alk_: use ammlers link and pull the 8.0 tar from there
17:31:16  <Alk_> im trying to figure out which one to dl
17:31:27  <KenjiE20> the one with 8.0 in the name
17:31:32  <Alk_> oh and the _isnt mandatory
17:31:51  <Alk_> i think tar.bz2 will open in winrar
17:31:53  <KenjiE20> Alk_: tab complete ftw
17:31:58  <Alk_> :P
17:32:11  <Ammler> well, else use 7zip
17:32:20  <Alk_> its done, i jsut have to put it to the grf folder, right?
17:32:34  <Ammler> newgrf is it called now, I guess
17:32:36  <KenjiE20> Ammler: that's an arcive, it doesn't do anything
17:32:50  <Alk_> hmm weird, just wanted to say that
17:33:03  <Ammler> KenjiE20: ?
17:33:08  <KenjiE20> yes Alk_ just drop the archive in data or newgrf
17:33:22  <KenjiE20> Ammler: there is no 7zip on ps, just tars
17:33:23  <Alk_> in the compressed file, there is another tar.bz2, which wont open
17:33:24  <KenjiE20> the 7zip is on bundles
17:33:58  <KenjiE20> Alk_: that's probably your archive program, just drop the archive itself in the grf folder
17:34:06  <Alk_> ok
17:34:23  <Alk_> luckly internet here isnt very slow
17:35:50  <Alk_> i dropped the tar.bz2 into my data folder, along with firs, which i have from before, but it aint showing up in the newgrf installation UI
17:36:10  <KenjiE20> which data?
17:36:13  <Ammler> KenjiE20: and you think, 7zip is capable to uncompress bz2?
17:36:20  <Ammler> isn't*
17:36:27  <Alk_> umm under my documents/ottd
17:36:29  <KenjiE20> Ammler:  Wouldn't know I don't use it
17:36:40  <Ammler> what else could you use on windows?
17:36:42  <KenjiE20> Alk_: try under the nightly dir/data
17:36:49  <KenjiE20> winrar
17:36:52  <KenjiE20> anyway food
17:36:56  <Ammler> proprietary
17:37:02  <KenjiE20> point?
17:37:28  <Ammler> never mind :-P
17:39:48  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> back alive
17:39:50  <Alk_> so, i dropped the grfpack into the data folder of the folder, where i unpacked my nightly, no result
17:40:36  <Ammler> no
17:40:52  <Ammler> put it to your newgrf folder, data is obsolete
17:40:54  <Ammler> and also use your home
17:40:58  <Ammler> not the install dir
17:41:12  <Ammler> data might still work, thouh
17:41:25  <Ammler> did you uncrompress it?
17:41:26  <Vinnie_nl> C:\Users\<username>\Documents\OpenTTD\data
17:41:44  <Alk_> it was under documents/ottd/data, but no result
17:41:52  <Alk_> and winrar cannot comprehend to uncompress
17:41:56  <Vinnie_nl> but mine are in a different folder, content dowloaded. does that exist in a windows macine?
17:42:09  <Alk_> wait
17:42:14  <Ammler> [19:32] <Ammler> well, else use 7zip
17:42:30  <Alk_> after downloading, not opening, it actually opens with WRar,
17:43:18  <Ammler> and the personal dir is not ottd, it should e openttd
17:45:07  <Alk_> yes, im too lazy to type it out ;)
17:45:35  <Alk_> ok it found all the newgrf's, ill now figure out the ones i need
17:45:56  <Vinnie_nl> install all from the folder
17:46:20  <Vinnie_nl> different ones are used each game
17:46:24  <Alk_> ok
17:48:44  <Vinnie_nl> also some grf's can only be get from ingame content
17:49:05  <Alk_> should be set now
17:49:50  <Alk_> still a grf mismatch, il lfigure out the one that mismatches
17:50:08  <Alk_> oh, it does it for me
17:50:37  <Alk_> !password
17:50:37  <PublicServer> Alk_: barman
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17:51:11  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> welcome
17:51:22  <PublicServer> <Alk> Yes, thank you,
17:51:45  <PublicServer> <Alk> i hope that my computer will be able to render all of this, since atm, its a bit laggy
17:51:55  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> yeah i got lagg to
17:52:09  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> happens with these games
17:52:35  <PublicServer> <Alk> i should have no sound, but it still has sounds
17:52:54  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> you hear the trains or music. Trains are from the newgrf
17:53:00  <PublicServer> <Alk> trains
17:53:42  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> idk how you can turn that off. I think its a setting in the newgrf to make it soundless
17:54:09  <PublicServer> <Alk> maybe,
17:54:19  <PublicServer> <Alk> i can't zoom out alot, itll make the lag worse
17:54:43  <PublicServer> <Alk> but i have irc open from firefox, and that is consuming alot of memory
17:54:53  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> no its the game
17:55:11  <PublicServer> <Alk> actually, its the fact that OTTD is singlecore
17:55:29  <PublicServer> <Alk> since one of my cores is maxed, and the other is sitting idleish
17:55:59  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> openttd is a single core game
17:56:10  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> yeah you said sorry
17:56:44  <PublicServer> <Alk> yup, i set more priority and assigned affinity to  the secondary core, so others can run on the first one
17:57:02  <PublicServer> <Alk> it is better tbh,
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17:58:05  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> any member online?
17:58:08  <PublicServer> <Alk> i also think, the newgrfs have "animations" if the station is full or not, and because its flluxtuating, its causing lag in the area
17:58:24  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> did you turn full animation off?
17:58:43  <PublicServer> <Alk> from where?
17:58:50  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> keep the settings button pressed
17:59:00  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> same goes for full detail
17:59:02  <PublicServer> <Alk> nwegrfs settings, ill check
17:59:28  <PublicServer> <Alk> off now, better, but not by much
18:01:06  <PublicServer> <Alk> one intresting note, there is some kind of lag on the trains, which makes them accelerate and brake in a steady fashion
18:03:10  <PublicServer> <Alk> brb
18:03:12  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> oke
18:07:30  <PublicServer> <Alk> i like observing this, althou much is to complex for me to understand yet
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18:07:52  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> yeah its getting near the endgame
18:08:13  <Chris_Booth> Vinnie this game should have been binned
18:09:18  <Vinnie_nl> well we finished all !errors
18:09:25  <Vinnie_nl> so it can be now
18:12:01  <PublicServer> <Alk> anything you working on, vinnie, so i can observer maybe?
18:12:23  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> right now im doing nothing but looking for errors
18:12:26  <PublicServer> <Alk> observe
18:12:29  <PublicServer> <Alk> ok
18:13:35  <Chris_Booth> Vinnie_nl: can you do me a favor on .stable?
18:13:45  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> ask away
18:14:02  <Chris_Booth> can you ask Chris to change his name please
18:19:05  <PublicServer> <Alk> may i experiment and try out
18:19:13  <PublicServer> <Alk> ahh ignore
18:19:27  <PublicServer> <Alk> i wanted to delete, but got my answer without an experiment
18:19:51  <PublicServer> <Alk> anyways, i think this is too much for me to comprehend atm, and i dont think i can improve on any of this
18:21:34  <PublicServer> <Alk> so i'm gonna do something else for the time being, and try and catch the server when its been reset, so i can maybe take part of palling and of the early phases, where i may have better luck learning and  building
18:21:37  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> what do you wanna try out?
18:21:52  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> oke im off to
18:21:59  <PublicServer> <Alk> later then
18:22:01  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> gonna try another game
18:22:05  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> cya
18:22:08  <PublicServer> <Alk> cya
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20:58:02  <XeryusTC> !archive
20:58:02  <PublicServer> XeryusTC: http://www.openttdcoop.ORG/wiki/PublicServer:Archive | |
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