Log for #openttdcoop on 2nd November 2012:
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00:00:03  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> was about time though
00:00:18  <PublicServer> <V453000> not it was years after time :D
00:00:24  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> true
00:01:07  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> so whats the purpose of these tunnels?
00:01:22  <PublicServer> <V453000> presignals ofc
00:01:44  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> oh, gettin clearer now
00:01:52  <V453000> @ABR12
00:01:53  <Webster> Advanced Building Revue 12: Overflows III at #openttdcoop -
00:02:17  <PublicServer> <V453000> figure H
00:02:19  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> ok, just gettin a beer, then i'll read it :)
00:02:37  <PublicServer> <V453000> reading the whole is good, but for now I was just pointing at that example :p
00:02:43  <PublicServer> <V453000> it is basically the same as what is done here
00:02:53  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> second screen ftw :)
00:03:09  <PublicServer> <V453000> yeah I intend to get one too
00:03:32  <PublicServer> <V453000> need some loud boombox first though
00:04:42  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> cold staropramen... nothing better
00:04:54  <PublicServer> <V453000> you are German right?
00:05:05  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> yep
00:05:17  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> and you are czech from what i remember
00:05:27  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes, just like staropramen
00:05:41  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> hehe
00:05:47  <PublicServer> <V453000> it means "old water source" or something like that
00:05:57  <PublicServer> <V453000> pramen is the place where the tiny river starts
00:06:19  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> good to know :)
00:08:30  <PublicServer> <V453000> F#!$!
00:08:44  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> rage nuke :P
00:08:55  <PublicServer> <V453000> worst thing is im not even drunk
00:09:05  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> lol
00:09:51  <PublicServer> <V453000> k this works
00:11:37  <PublicServer> <V453000> jesus christ 1:11 again
00:11:40  <PublicServer> <V453000> x_X
00:11:46  <PublicServer> <V453000> fucking time
00:11:46  <PublicServer> <V453000> who invented that thing
00:12:24  <PublicServer> <V453000> ayy
00:14:30  <PublicServer> <V453000> im afraid a lot of MSH 02 will go as well
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00:16:24  <PublicServer> <V453000> oh god fucking damn it this isnt happening
00:16:26  <PublicServer> <V453000> this cant be happening
00:16:32  <PublicServer> <V453000> im so dumb
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00:22:08  <BenJTotterdell> !password
00:22:08  <PublicServer> BenJTotterdell: shaves
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00:22:21  <PublicServer> <V453000> ohai
00:22:24  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> hey ben
00:22:27  <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> hi
00:22:38  <PublicServer> <V453000> wanted to kill you for making a fullspeed track switcher, but I calmed down unfortunately ;)
00:22:52  <PublicServer> <Sylf> :D
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00:23:02  <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> eh wut?
00:23:16  <PublicServer> <V453000> you didnt use waiting bays and made a shifter instead
00:23:18  <PublicServer> <V453000> at grain exit
00:23:33  <PublicServer> <V453000> (punishable by death
00:24:18  <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> hmm, I don't really remember, but proberly. sounds like the kinda thing I would do.
00:24:33  <PublicServer> <V453000> :P
00:24:39  <PublicServer> <V453000> its fine but please do not use it
00:24:41  <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> in my defence, I left a little bit of the original exit as I was lazy
00:24:48  <PublicServer> <V453000> waiting bays \o/ :)
00:24:58  <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> thats more than likely what you are refering too
00:25:08  <PublicServer> <V453000> nah there was this
00:25:34  <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> after the tunnels
00:25:36  <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> ah ok I see
00:25:47  <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> next time
00:25:53  <PublicServer> <V453000> :P
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00:26:15  <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> that better?
00:26:33  <PublicServer> <V453000> that is a very special case
00:26:59  <V453000>
00:27:01  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> someone should move BBH05 out of V's range :D
00:27:07  <PublicServer> <V453000> :D
00:31:02  <PublicServer> <V453000> screw you trains
00:31:02  <PublicServer> <V453000> haha
00:31:03  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> imagine being a train driver approaching this station
00:31:03  <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> would have no fucking idea
00:31:06  <PublicServer> <V453000> I think all of our train drivers currently quit their jobs and ran into the fields, so ...
00:31:29  <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> well you would need a pee after a certain number of years
00:31:43  <PublicServer> <V453000> given that they are standing this way for at least an hour ... :p
00:31:46  <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> is there owt else I can do whilst all is quite on the train front
00:31:48  <PublicServer> <V453000> about 5 yeras
00:32:07  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> its five years since the profit graph hit the ground
00:33:02  <PublicServer> <V453000> there we go
00:33:13  <PublicServer> <V453000> >:]
00:33:23  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> with 90deg turns :o
00:33:35  <PublicServer> <V453000> which ones
00:33:46  <PublicServer> <V453000> thats not travellable
00:33:52  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> ah oke
00:34:10  <PublicServer> <V453000> oh and please never candy my stations :p
00:34:17  <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> I was bored
00:34:19  <PublicServer> <V453000> esp not repetitively
00:34:29  <PublicServer> <V453000> I abtolutely hate repetitive eyecandy with passion
00:34:31  <PublicServer> <V453000> sorry :p
00:35:17  <PublicServer> <V453000> also please never justify anything with an argument I was bored :P go do something more productive instead of playing a game, games arent meant to be boring :P
00:35:51  <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> yes boss
00:36:01  <PublicServer> <V453000> and I might want to stop talking shit
00:36:31  <PublicServer> <V453000> :p
00:38:09  <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> thats the best I can come up with. I was never very creative
00:38:23  <PublicServer> <V453000> better already :p
00:38:43  <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> I suppose you'd like to do the exit?
00:38:50  <PublicServer> <V453000> but some pieces of ISR fit particularly nice together ... doesnt hurt ot use some combinations :P
00:38:56  <PublicServer> <V453000> with TL3 it is a bit limited though
00:39:06  <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> true
00:39:14  <PublicServer> <V453000> I will probably rebuild the MSH merger as well when doing the exit
00:39:18  <PublicServer> <V453000> so I guess I do
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00:41:19  <BenJTotterdell> !password
00:41:19  <PublicServer> BenJTotterdell: proses
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00:42:00  <PublicServer> <V453000> if you find a missing line or forgotten connection, bury it under signs, make bridges over it or just hide it but do not tell me :D
00:46:14  <PublicServer> <V453000> dat aint beer that is oil :P
00:46:29  <PublicServer> <V453000> I use this one for beer
00:46:52  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> i just filled an oil tank with beer :D
00:46:59  <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> can I do the split? or do u wanna do that last?
00:47:01  <PublicServer> <V453000> :D
00:47:11  <PublicServer> <V453000> hm
00:47:21  <PublicServer> <V453000> im not exactly sure
00:47:32  <PublicServer> <V453000> but I am going to mess with the MSH
00:47:35  <PublicServer> <V453000> so probably yeah
00:47:47  <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> you can always remove it later
00:47:57  <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> i need practice anyways
00:48:07  <PublicServer> <V453000> well I would hate to remove stuff that you just built :P lets seek something else
00:48:13  <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> hm ok
00:48:33  <PublicServer> <V453000> kinda hard to tell when the network is stopped :D
00:48:39  <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> i know
00:53:23  <PublicServer> <V453000> ohx
00:57:19  <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> yep officially out of ideas :P
00:57:34  <PublicServer> <V453000> wa?
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00:57:48  <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> I am
00:59:04  <Dom_> !password
00:59:04  <PublicServer> Dom_: locust
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00:59:18  <PublicServer> <Dom> hello
00:59:25  <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> hi
00:59:31  <PublicServer> <V453000> hi
00:59:37  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> hi
01:05:39  <PublicServer> <V453000> k that is the first stage of the exit for onw
01:05:39  <PublicServer> <V453000> for now
01:05:39  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> first stage?
01:05:39  <PublicServer> <V453000> the second will be in the MSH
01:05:39  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> insanity :D
01:05:39  <PublicServer> <V453000> no its all logical!
01:05:42  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> i see a place in the near future... flooded with openttd logic :D
01:05:54  <PublicServer> <V453000> what place
01:09:09  <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> some would describe as excessive :P
01:09:34  <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> why is there so much more grain than livestock... hmm
01:09:44  <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> one of lifes many questions
01:09:50  <PublicServer> <V453000> just because people added grain
01:09:52  <PublicServer> <V453000> iz all
01:10:03  <PublicServer> <Sylf> because we luv beer
01:10:07  <PublicServer> <V453000> I wouldnt find any deeped logic behind that
01:10:14  <PublicServer> <V453000> especially as livestock has smaller wagons
01:10:20  <PublicServer> <V453000> so you would expect it vice versa in fact
01:10:23  <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> thats what I was thinking
01:10:43  <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> unless the livestock station was constructed far better initially.. :P
01:11:09  <PublicServer> <Sylf> unpossible :P
01:11:27  <PublicServer> <V453000> possible :)
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01:13:21  <PublicServer> <V453000> hi BBH 05
01:13:27  <PublicServer> <V453000> got dynamite?
01:13:33  <PublicServer> <Sylf> :D
01:18:40  <PublicServer> <V453000> RUN
01:18:48  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> BOOM :D
01:19:02  <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> JAM!
01:19:05  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> what about a factory?
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01:19:15  <PublicServer> <V453000> good point
01:19:22  <PublicServer> <Sylf> lol
01:20:10  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> omg i forgot electric rails
01:20:15  <PublicServer> <V453000> now lets see the station fail and I can go take revenge on lesser creatures
01:22:41  <PublicServer> <V453000> its okay just about a million trains going to turn in one SLH
01:22:51  <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> indeed
01:23:33  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> yea slh 02 is slightly fucked
01:23:55  <PublicServer> <Sylf> it'll work out
01:24:02  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> over time
01:24:08  <PublicServer> <V453000> that is why building terminus stations at SLs and ro-ro at main stations is a good idea
01:24:14  <PublicServer> <V453000> one of the reasons anyway
01:25:19  <PublicServer> <V453000> oh amazing
01:25:25  <PublicServer> <V453000> trains getting caught in SL overflow
01:25:32  <PublicServer> <V453000> havent seen that happen yet :D
01:25:34  <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> mr reverser, was a little too late :(
01:25:38  <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> my
01:25:52  <PublicServer> <Sylf> it was yours?
01:26:10  <PublicServer> <Sylf> it wasn't gonna work anyway
01:26:20  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> where?
01:26:20  <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> whY?
01:26:32  <PublicServer> <Sylf> no pf
01:26:46  <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> stupif pft
01:27:10  <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> not needed
01:27:21  <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> all the trains below this point aren't heading this way
01:27:31  <PublicServer> <V453000> can do it that way :p
01:27:42  <PublicServer> <Sylf> yeah
01:28:32  <PublicServer> <V453000> btw we are probably going to have a party in the next few days
01:28:34  <PublicServer> <V453000> try to discover why
01:28:56  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> you win the election for US President?
01:29:04  <PublicServer> <V453000> :d
01:29:14  <PublicServer> <V453000> no
01:30:17  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> about overflows... shouldn'T the depots be invisible for the pathfinder?
01:30:19  <PublicServer> <V453000> oh ass
01:30:23  <PublicServer> <V453000> they are
01:30:26  <PublicServer> <V453000> and yes should be
01:30:30  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> one isnt
01:30:40  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> i'll fix it
01:30:42  <PublicServer> <V453000> where
01:31:00  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> nvm, somebody already did
01:32:30  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> so whats the party about?
01:33:41  <PublicServer> <V453000> do you know which services Webster provides?
01:34:43  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> no
01:35:01  <PublicServer> <V453000> ask Sylf :)
01:35:19  <PublicServer> <Sylf> erm?
01:35:45  <PublicServer> <Sylf> webster is just a web monstah :)
01:36:06  <V453000> know about
01:36:07  <V453000> @logs
01:36:08  <V453000> ?
01:36:08  <Webster> #openttdcoop IRC webstuff - IRC Log Viewer -
01:36:19  <PublicServer> <Sylf> yup.
01:37:01  <PublicServer> <V453000> then that is close to what my guessed party is about
01:37:11  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> oh, big brother is watching us :p
01:37:21  <PublicServer> <Sylf> always!
01:40:19  <PublicServer> <V453000> you guys are bad guessers :P
01:40:34  <PublicServer> <V453000> (or you just dont give a shit which would be very surprising at very 2:40 am indeed.
01:41:36  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> my brain is deep asleep so dont expect a good guess from me
01:41:46  <PublicServer> <V453000> right I will spoil it
01:41:53  <PublicServer> <V453000> @@coopstats
01:41:54  <Webster> #openttdcoop @ OFTC stats by Webster -
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01:43:45  <BenJTotterdell> night night
01:43:48  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> the random quotes are fun
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01:43:50  <PublicServer> <V453000> cya
01:43:53  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> cu
01:44:44  <PublicServer> <V453000> yay I managed to fix my station
01:47:43  <PublicServer> <Dom> bbh 08 will need a third
01:47:55  <PublicServer> <V453000> he
01:49:29  <PublicServer> <V453000> I think my constructing actions are depleted for tonight
01:49:35  <PublicServer> <Dom> mine to
02:01:55  <PublicServer> <V453000> 3 o clock in the morning
02:01:57  <PublicServer> <V453000> wunderbar
02:02:03  <PublicServer> <V453000> wanted to be productive today ^^
02:02:05  <PublicServer> <V453000> gnight
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02:02:11  <PublicServer> <Sylf> gn :)
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02:21:19  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> another issue fixed...
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02:37:55  <PublicServer> <Sylf> gn
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02:38:07  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> cu
02:38:14  <PublicServer> <Dom> gn8
02:38:24  <PublicServer> <Dom> are you building anything?
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08:19:16  <FluR0> Hey
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11:46:50  <quazimodo> hi guys XD
11:48:53  <V453000> hello
11:50:49  <quazimodo> im surprised there are so many people here
11:51:50  <V453000> well most are probably inactive at this part of the day :) welcome
11:57:25  <quazimodo> hehe
11:57:37  <quazimodo> im trying to figure out how people can build these elaborate stations
11:57:47  <quazimodo> they take up so much space, how do you get goods to them!
11:58:22  <V453000> what do you mean?
11:58:33  <V453000> !password
11:58:33  <PublicServer> V453000: bootee
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12:01:40  <PublicServer> <V453000> join the server if you want to show me some examples :>
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12:13:36  <quazimodo> @quickstart
12:13:37  <Webster> Quickstart - #openttdcoop Wiki -
12:14:56  <quazimodo> oh i have to get the right build?
12:16:35  <quazimodo> !dl lin
12:16:35  <PublicServer> quazimodo:
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12:17:31  <PublicServer> <V453000> pretty much :)
12:18:28  <quazimodo> bleh, wish there was a nice auto downloader
12:18:31  <quazimodo> like a ruby gem
12:19:01  <V453000> there is some autostart but idk how that works
12:19:17  <sturmi> and i wish i had infinite beer and money :p
12:19:23  <sturmi> hey guys
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12:19:32  <Vinnie> !playercount
12:19:32  <PublicServer> Vinnie: Number of players: 2 (0 spectators)
12:19:44  <sturmi> !password
12:19:44  <PublicServer> sturmi: ricing
12:19:53  <Vinnie> !dl win64
12:19:53  <PublicServer> Vinnie:
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12:20:59  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> Hi all
12:21:02  <PublicServer> <V453000> hi
12:21:22  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> hi
12:22:00  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> nice comment on bigger
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12:22:10  <PublicServer> <V453000> hm :)
12:22:12  <GLAD0S> hi
12:22:18  <V453000> hello
12:22:20  <V453000> @quickstart
12:22:21  <Webster> Quickstart - #openttdcoop Wiki -
12:22:22  <V453000> read that first
12:22:29  <GLAD0S> anyone know the password for the public server?
12:22:36  <Vinnie> its on that page
12:22:39  <Vinnie> and hello
12:22:39  <sturmi> type !password
12:23:01  <PublicServer> <V453000> @kick sturmi :)
12:23:08  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> :(
12:23:47  <GLAD0S> !password
12:23:47  <PublicServer> GLAD0S: ricing
12:23:53  <GLAD0S> YAY!
12:23:56  <GLAD0S> cheers guys!
12:24:50  <PublicServer> <V453000> I think your new merger will not stay flor long Vinnie
12:25:00  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> no problem
12:25:10  <PublicServer> <V453000> its built okay but doesnt fit the situation
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12:25:37  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> i can see that
12:25:44  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> i can work on Marks BBH now
12:25:57  <PublicServer> <V453000> yeah that will probably need doing
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12:26:11  <PublicServer> <V453000> also, the overkill @grain is your fault because you said we expand.
12:26:12  <GLAD0S> !Password
12:26:24  <GLAD0S> !password
12:26:24  <PublicServer> GLAD0S: awning
12:26:31  <PublicServer> <V453000> why do you even bother reporting that :D
12:26:47  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> because i need to make all settings right no this pc
12:26:49  <PublicServer> <V453000> placing sign, writing it into chat, instead S and click :D
12:26:59  <quazimodo> woot
12:27:04  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> sign distance 4
12:27:10  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> default :(
12:27:10  <quazimodo> ok how do i join
12:27:16  <V453000> @quickstart
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12:27:17  <Webster> Quickstart - #openttdcoop Wiki -
12:27:23  <quazimodo> V453000: yeah i havethe new build
12:27:35  <PublicServer> <V453000> signal distance 4 is default?
12:27:41  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> yes
12:27:44  <PublicServer> <V453000> didnt know the default is that retarded
12:28:03  <PublicServer> <V453000> but well what would you expect
12:29:37  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> and why do i get the blame for the massive queue at beer
12:29:50  <quazimodo> how do i install thse grf's
12:29:53  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> i just build a ton of trains for stations with more than 1k waiting
12:29:56  <PublicServer> <V453000> I wasnt talking about any queue :)
12:30:10  <PublicServer> <V453000> quazimodo: documents/data
12:30:16  <PublicServer> <V453000> documents/openttd/data that is
12:30:29  <PublicServer> <V453000> idk how it is for linux, see openttd readme eventually
12:30:40  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> wiki has that answer
12:30:46  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> google has link to wiki
12:30:49  <PublicServer> <V453000> hm k
12:31:59  <PublicServer> <V453000> k I will sort MSH 02 out
12:32:17  <PublicServer> <V453000> sorry Vinnie :)
12:32:23  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> blow it up
12:33:25  <PublicServer> <V453000> jams solved
12:33:28  <PublicServer> <V453000> just with a tiny side effect
12:33:48  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> should have finished this map yesterday :P
12:36:18  <PublicServer> <V453000> fuck you Flutown
12:36:20  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> haha
12:40:54  <Dom_> !password
12:40:54  <PublicServer> Dom_: fliest
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12:41:06  <PublicServer> <Dom> hello
12:41:10  <PublicServer> <V453000> hi
12:41:12  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> Hi
12:41:15  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> hi
12:42:06  <Tray> !password
12:42:06  <PublicServer> Tray: fliest
12:42:23  <Tray> !dl win32
12:42:23  <PublicServer> Tray:
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12:43:35  <PublicServer> <Tray> hi
12:43:38  <PublicServer> <V453000> hello
12:43:44  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> hey
12:43:46  <PublicServer> <Dom> hi
12:43:48  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> hello
12:44:39  <PublicServer> <V453000> what
12:44:43  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> not me
12:44:49  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> though i did see it happen
12:45:04  <PublicServer> <V453000> well it is theoretically possible that this happen automatically I think
12:45:18  <quazimodo> ok so
12:45:20  <PublicServer> <V453000> hm yeah
12:45:27  <quazimodo> ive got planes at 3 cities to make money
12:45:29  <quazimodo> its ~
12:45:33  <quazimodo> coal makes so much more money?
12:45:43  <PublicServer> <V453000> nobody here cares about money
12:45:45  <PublicServer> <V453000> point 1
12:47:20  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> how long did grain factory rebuild take?
12:47:30  <PublicServer> <V453000> idk really
12:47:30  <quazimodo> yeah but i need money to make stuff
12:47:46  <PublicServer> <V453000> cheat them or just make aircraft, that is irrelevant
12:47:48  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> cheat a little for money at start
12:47:50  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> about ten years ingame
12:48:02  <Tray> strg + alt +c and three clicks solve all money problems
12:48:04  <PublicServer> <V453000> k that is about 2.5 hours
12:49:07  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> double use of lines, looks so good
12:49:18  <PublicServer> <V453000> ?
12:49:48  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> useing a line for a priority and also to put trains into overflow
12:50:06  <PublicServer> <V453000> +-
12:50:12  <PublicServer> <V453000> doesnt work too well though
12:50:14  <PublicServer> <V453000> fails quite often
12:50:45  <PublicServer> <V453000> the triple platforms are fine
12:50:52  <PublicServer> <V453000> the bidirectional will need some more thought
12:51:07  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> bidirectional is more epic
12:52:37  <PublicServer> <V453000> this might help
12:53:08  <PublicServer> <V453000> k nvm
12:53:10  <PublicServer> <V453000> how the hell
12:53:16  <PublicServer> <V453000> oh right
12:53:23  <PublicServer> <V453000> oh fucking right
12:53:32  <PublicServer> <V453000> got it
12:54:03  <PublicServer> <V453000> just dumb TL gap in the prioritizing
12:54:14  <PublicServer> <V453000> also the MSH 02 is terrible atm
12:55:42  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> isnt it about the backlog?
12:55:52  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> traffic that just needs to clear first
12:55:54  <PublicServer> <V453000> I think the 3 lines are just a bottleneck atm
12:55:57  <PublicServer> <V453000> yeah lets see later
12:56:07  <PublicServer> <V453000> but I think we will need to redo the whole area
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12:57:14  <PublicServer> <V453000> this probably isnt going to clear
12:57:20  <BenJTotterdell> !password
12:57:20  <PublicServer> BenJTotterdell: raring
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12:57:38  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> 4 exit lines?
12:57:48  <PublicServer> <V453000> I dont think 4 is smart
12:57:52  <PublicServer> <V453000> I would do 5 already
12:58:06  <PublicServer> <V453000> 4 will be enough now
12:58:10  <PublicServer> <V453000> 5 will last  a bit
12:58:16  <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> still on MSH 02? :P
12:58:20  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> 5 seems fun
12:58:46  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> compress 5 a little to create space
12:58:52  <PublicServer> <V453000> I am supposed to be doing something for work before I go soak my brain with beer
12:59:02  <PublicServer> <V453000> so feel free to do it :)
12:59:05  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> ty
12:59:11  <PublicServer> <V453000> I dont think there is any way BBH 05 is going to survive
12:59:20  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> me neither
12:59:27  <PublicServer> <V453000> I wouldnt even be against integrating the two hubs
12:59:33  <PublicServer> <Dom> :'(
12:59:39  <PublicServer> <V453000> if you are going to do 5, the current total between hubs will be 6
12:59:57  <PublicServer> <V453000> so I guess just make 3+3 -> choices -> 6->3
13:00:29  <PublicServer> <V453000> see what I mean?
13:00:33  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> yeah
13:00:44  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> im gonna need beer to picture the 6 > 3 though
13:00:50  <PublicServer> <V453000> to battle minions!
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13:01:04  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> will you bring beer for battle?
13:01:14  <PublicServer> <Dom> no beer no battle
13:01:17  <PublicServer> <V453000> my evening battle is going to consist of mainly beer
13:01:24  <PublicServer> <Dom> :D
13:01:30  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> you sound like a king
13:01:36  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> only thinking about your own beer
13:01:54  <PublicServer> <V453000> well I didnt expect you to come here to have a beer with me :P
13:02:10  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> from NL do you live before or after Prague
13:02:25  <PublicServer> <V453000> depends where do you go, if from north then before
13:02:31  <PublicServer> <V453000> if from west then after
13:02:34  <PublicServer> <V453000> im just on the northern border
13:02:44  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> oke im on my way
13:02:46  <PublicServer> <V453000> with germany
13:02:57  <PublicServer> <V453000> poland is very close too
13:03:16  <sturmi> so we are almost neighbors
13:03:55  <PublicServer> <V453000> everybody is almost neighbors on the internet :P where do you live?
13:04:09  <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> Sheffield, Northern England
13:04:23  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> right now ia am in Dresden, my "old" home
13:04:27  <PublicServer> <V453000> right :)
13:04:58  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> oke im gonna cheat
13:05:08  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> uh?
13:05:23  <PublicServer> <V453000> cheat == press D and drag all of the map?
13:05:34  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> no that crashes my pc
13:05:40  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> and or server
13:05:44  <PublicServer> <V453000> :d
13:05:48  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> and i already have done that 4 or 5 times
13:05:54  <PublicServer> <V453000> I think server is strong enough for that
13:07:34  <PublicServer> <V453000> feel free to nuke the place
13:07:52  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> i build slow
13:08:06  <PublicServer> <Tray> I think the line to MSH 07 could need some work on the balancing
13:08:06  <PublicServer> <V453000> doesnt matter
13:08:16  <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> stop all trainese?
13:08:42  <PublicServer> <V453000> I think oil just needs 3rd
13:08:42  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> its the Station entry
13:08:52  <PublicServer> <V453000> at least for that one bit
13:09:22  <PublicServer> <V453000> if you look at grain, trains first choose and then merge into 2+3
13:09:40  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> yea, i already thought about a redesign...
13:09:56  <PublicServer> <V453000> I think making a 3rd at that small spot is a better option
13:10:02  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> but feel free to do it, as i gotta leave in a minute
13:10:02  <PublicServer> <V453000> you dont have too much space
13:10:16  <PublicServer> <V453000> I was supposed to be gone already :P
13:10:26  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> :D
13:11:04  <PublicServer> <V453000> I could also say fuck it and do it tomorrow
13:11:04  <PublicServer> <V453000> hmm
13:11:10  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> i am afraid that the station will collapse, when the Entry is sorted out
13:11:21  <PublicServer> <V453000> nah it wont
13:11:27  <PublicServer> <V453000> and if it will then we expand it
13:11:33  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> sure that
13:12:00  <PublicServer> <V453000> if the pickup gets adjusted we have a ton of space there
13:12:08  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> erm, did wrunton Woods just die after being connected?
13:12:17  <PublicServer> <V453000> hang on
13:12:25  <V453000> !rcon set raw_industry_construction 1
13:12:29  <PublicServer> <Tray> yes
13:12:35  <PublicServer> <V453000> RISE
13:12:36  <V453000> !rcon set raw_industry_construction 2
13:12:38  <PublicServer> <Tray> of thank you
13:12:43  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> mighty God :D
13:13:42  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> cu later guys
13:13:46  <PublicServer> <V453000> see you
13:13:48  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> Cya
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13:14:15  <PublicServer> <V453000> Tray: look at the SLH :)
13:14:34  <PublicServer> <V453000> see what I mean?
13:14:41  <PublicServer> <V453000> just makingi t smaller :) that end looks a bit off
13:15:02  <sturmi> !password
13:15:02  <PublicServer> sturmi: humbug
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13:15:27  <PublicServer> <Tray> Hrm. Thank you.
13:15:30  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> sometimes i hate the phone...
13:15:32  <PublicServer> <V453000> yw
13:15:59  <PublicServer> <V453000> gentlemen, I hereby declare the day of procrastination and openttd; and I shall start the ceremony by opening a beer
13:16:26  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> Cheers
13:16:33  <PublicServer> <V453000> cheers
13:16:39  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> may we drink beer till eternity
13:16:41  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> cheers
13:16:59  <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> Cheers!!
13:17:46  <PublicServer> <V453000> just dont let me disturb you Vinnie I will just place some hint signs
13:19:16  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> is this gonna be the new BBH 05?
13:19:18  <PublicServer> <V453000> oh bythe way
13:19:28  <PublicServer> <V453000> that emrger is 8->3 not 6->3 as I said
13:19:34  <PublicServer> <V453000> yeah pretty much Sturmi
13:20:01  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> this is gonna be a 7 > 5
13:20:04  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> hmm
13:20:29  <PublicServer> <V453000> 8 -> 3
13:20:36  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> 6 > 3 is hard
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13:20:46  <PublicServer> <V453000> there is no 6->3 :D
13:20:52  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> I know
13:20:55  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> i fucked up
13:21:01  <PublicServer> <V453000> well 8 -> 3 isnt much better :p
13:21:18  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> anything with more than 2 diffence is fucked up
13:21:22  <PublicServer> <V453000> idk, if you want just make some huge ass repetitive merger
13:21:36  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> that doesnt bring bck my skills
13:21:38  <PublicServer> <V453000> you know the PBS->2way technique yet?
13:21:46  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> nope
13:21:56  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> not in a merger
13:22:18  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> ohh i seen those
13:22:24  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> in PZ
13:22:26  <PublicServer> <V453000> likely
13:22:33  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> boom
13:22:35  <PublicServer> <V453000> the idea is that the PBS already knows which line is full when choosing
13:22:37  <PublicServer> <Tray> Where are you working, I would like to see them too (:
13:22:52  <PublicServer> <V453000> instead of choosing  based on which waiting bay is free (which is what presignals do)
13:22:55  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> South BBH 05
13:22:57  <PublicServer> <V453000> BBH 05 Tray
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13:23:10  <GLAD0S> hi guys
13:23:15  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> But the prio in this one is either to long or to short
13:23:21  <PublicServer> <V453000> also, if you are doing ->3, we can just use the "V453000 merger" as I usually sign it
13:23:36  <PublicServer> <V453000> you dont really give a shit about the prio length it is just about train detection
13:23:38  <GLAD0S> where do you find the newgrfs for the public server
13:23:39  <Webster> Read the Quickstart - #openttdcoop Wiki - (again, try !grf)
13:23:40  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> 8 > 4 seems doable
13:23:50  <GLAD0S> !grf
13:23:58  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> and then a 4 > 3 to fix it
13:24:00  <PublicServer> <V453000> it not in junctionary :d
13:24:15  <PublicServer> <V453000> Glados just read the quickstart please
13:24:19  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> so i make an 8 > 4 here and put it in junctonary
13:24:29  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> :P
13:24:35  <PublicServer> <V453000> 4 is an option too
13:24:45  <GLAD0S> cheers
13:25:00  <PublicServer> <V453000> so, we need someone to make BBH 08 accept 4 lines :P
13:25:18  <PublicServer> <V453000> what I meant by the ->3 merger was this
13:25:50  <PublicServer> <V453000> etc
13:26:00  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> yeah seems to easy
13:26:06  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> fuck ocams razor
13:26:08  <PublicServer> <V453000> +- :)
13:29:28  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> who's building at Oil drop?
13:29:38  <PublicServer> <V453000> you were I thought :D
13:29:41  <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> i am at cow drop
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13:29:59  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> i was about to start :D
13:30:05  <PublicServer> <Tray> I do
13:30:09  <PublicServer> <Dom> hm oil drop?
13:30:23  <PublicServer> <V453000> if you want to rebuild the area of oil just do it
13:30:47  <PublicServer> <Dom> who wants to just go ahead or i'll do it in 20 mins
13:30:59  <PublicServer> <V453000> that is what I meant too :)
13:31:13  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> arse
13:31:20  <PublicServer> <V453000> arse ars
13:31:26  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> ok i give you green light
13:32:28  <PublicServer> <V453000> thinking
13:33:51  <quazimodo> @quickstart
13:33:52  <Webster> Quickstart - #openttdcoop Wiki -
13:36:36  <quazimodo> !password
13:36:36  <PublicServer> quazimodo: safari
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13:40:34  <quazimodo> hrm
13:40:37  <quazimodo> nh foundations eh
13:41:05  <PublicServer> <V453000> its in the pack
13:42:47  <quazimodo> !password
13:42:48  <PublicServer> quazimodo: encore
13:43:15  <quazimodo> which nerd wrote the bot hat sets up tho password
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13:43:17  <quazimodo> XD
13:43:20  <PublicServer> <V453000> would probably not be a terrible idea to move BBH 05 to Saningstone entirely
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13:43:32  <Vinnie_> !password
13:43:32  <PublicServer> Vinnie_: encore
13:43:37  <V453000> KenjiE20: you have some feedback there ^
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13:43:43  <V453000> oh wait that isnt webster
13:43:49  <V453000> shut up webster
13:43:53  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> Hi all
13:43:55  <PublicServer> <V453000> hi
13:44:03  <KenjiE20> I do actually though
13:44:03  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> webster mad?
13:44:03  <PublicServer> <V453000> how about we make a new BBH 05 at Saning stone
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13:44:23  <KenjiE20> iirc it's just a massive grep for 6 letter words on a aspell dic
13:44:41  <V453000> y
13:46:04  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> & > 4?
13:46:07  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> 7>4
13:46:09  <PublicServer> <V453000> 8
13:46:09  <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> should I mearge to 4 > 3 then 3>4 ! here?
13:46:11  <PublicServer> <Dom> -.-
13:46:15  <PublicServer> <V453000> 6+2
13:46:17  <PublicServer> <Dom> planinghead farm
13:46:31  <PublicServer> <V453000> 3from station + 3 from ML before MSH 02 + 2 from bottom
13:46:34  <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> or should i just straight split from the MSH which is easier
13:46:41  <quazimodo> so
13:46:46  <quazimodo> how do we chat in game?
13:46:54  <quazimodo> and can someone explain something to me?
13:46:56  <PublicServer> <V453000> try enter
13:46:56  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> come in game and press enter
13:46:56  <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> enter
13:47:02  <PublicServer> <quazbutt> oh here we go
13:47:02  <PublicServer> <quazbutt> yeah
13:47:12  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> ok, oil Entry done
13:47:26  <PublicServer> <V453000> good enough for now Sturmi :)
13:47:28  <PublicServer> <quazbutt> on the top left edge we have the LUMBERPICKUP station
13:47:34  <PublicServer> <quazbutt> and the wood drop
13:47:36  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes
13:47:42  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> just separated the Goods trains before the merger
13:47:42  <PublicServer> <quazbutt> where are the industries for these two?
13:47:44  <PublicServer> <V453000> built by some idiot, what is with it
13:47:54  <PublicServer> <V453000> just like 20 tiles above it
13:48:21  <PublicServer> <quazbutt> ah yes, so how does this sawmill actually receive goods?
13:48:27  <PublicServer> <quazbutt> the station looks so far away
13:48:34  <PublicServer> <V453000> by the small station pieces which are a part ofthe station
13:48:52  <PublicServer> <V453000> :d
13:48:58  <PublicServer> <V453000> BBH 05
13:49:01  <PublicServer> <quazbutt> i cant see em :(
13:49:03  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> ?
13:49:09  <PublicServer> <V453000> there was wtf writen in the grass
13:49:12  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> i know
13:49:18  <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> some 1 come ! here I need advice
13:49:40  <PublicServer> <V453000> that really depends on what you want to do Ben
13:49:50  <PublicServer> <V453000> you can first split the drop and pickup
13:49:52  <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> well effectively add a third line
13:49:55  <PublicServer> <V453000> and  then make 4->2 x2
13:49:57  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> for great meatballs, use ketjab
13:50:11  <PublicServer> <V453000> two 4->2 should be good
13:50:22  <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> hmm ok
13:51:08  <PublicServer> <quazbutt> oh i see
13:51:18  <PublicServer> <V453000> yay
13:51:40  <PublicServer> <V453000> Vinnie: I suggest making that direction one of those which choose
13:51:44  <PublicServer> <V453000> not are given prio to
13:51:50  <PublicServer> <quazbutt> did you guys make a station that was very long, extend it out,  and then delete bits of  old station?
13:51:57  <PublicServer> <V453000> it doesnt matter too much but there is barely any traffic
13:51:59  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> your all over the map
13:52:09  <PublicServer> <V453000> quazbutt: ctrl click when building a station
13:52:17  <PublicServer> <V453000> ofc I am :)
13:52:35  <PublicServer> <V453000> thats what I am here for after all
13:52:37  <PublicServer> <quazbutt> oh hold on i see, the GRF pack changed things
13:52:47  <PublicServer> <quazbutt> i didnt have all these station choices inthe  solo
13:52:57  <PublicServer> <V453000> yeah, newGRFs
13:53:12  <PublicServer> <quazbutt> can this sorta thing be done with a clean version of the game?
13:53:18  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes
13:53:48  <PublicServer> <quazbutt> i see!
13:54:00  <PublicServer> <quazbutt> so, how far away can this be?!
13:54:07  <PublicServer> <V453000> as much as station spread allows
13:54:09  <PublicServer> <quazbutt> what stops me putting these on the other side of the ma
13:54:15  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> hmm bbh05 moving further south again?
13:54:24  <PublicServer> <V453000> Sturmi: pretty much
13:54:42  <PublicServer> <Tray> quazbutt, there's an option about the maximum station spread
13:54:44  <PublicServer> <quazbutt> i notice you guys dont have any road stuff really
13:54:54  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> it'l end up near Oil Drop before its done :DD
13:55:13  <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> here is our ! road stuff
13:55:23  <PublicServer> <Tray> and this game is about building one huge network, there've been roadnetworks as well, but thex don't give much of a challenge
13:56:22  <PublicServer> <quazbutt> there is some weirdness
13:56:27  <PublicServer> <V453000> NO.
13:56:29  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> Mission complete
13:56:31  <PublicServer> <quazbutt> some of these lines just 'end' heh
13:56:33  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> you reached level 2
13:56:35  <PublicServer> <Tray> We hope so. ):
13:56:49  <PublicServer> <Tray> What do you mean? Maybe we can explain things.
13:57:20  <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> look at prios in junctionary?
13:57:30  <PublicServer> <V453000> might be a reverser too
13:57:40  <PublicServer> <quazbutt> oh the inclines dont seem to hurt the game too much
13:57:46  <PublicServer> <V453000> either way make sure you know @@prio
13:57:46  <Webster> prio: Priority, see also:
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13:58:46  <PublicServer> <quazbutt> you guys have 141 year old trains :/
13:58:54  <PublicServer> <quazbutt> did you turn off breakdowns etc?
13:58:56  <PublicServer> <V453000> lol disastrous
13:58:59  <PublicServer> <V453000> no?
13:59:09  <V453000> !rcon set vehicle_breakdowns
13:59:10  <PublicServer> V453000: Current value for 'vehicle_breakdowns' is: '0' (min: 0, max: 2)
13:59:13  <V453000> !rcon set vehicle_breakdowns 2
13:59:22  <PublicServer> <quazbutt> well this 1 train had 0 reliability, but i didnt see it breakdown heaps
13:59:28  <PublicServer> <V453000> snafu
13:59:30  <PublicServer> <V453000> :D
13:59:36  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> omg
13:59:39  <V453000> !rcon set vehicle_breakdowns 0
13:59:46  <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> lmao
14:00:04  <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> now where's that refit centre.....
14:00:07  <PublicServer> <quazbutt> which part of the map are you guys on and playing with?
14:00:09  <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> when we need 1
14:00:11  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> i've never seen a coop game with breakdowns
14:00:25  <PublicServer> <V453000> game with breakdowns is downed and not compatible with brain usage Sturmi
14:00:35  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> well said
14:00:41  <PublicServer> <quazbutt> im gonna assume breakdowns dont happen here
14:00:52  <PublicServer> <V453000> they just did, they wont happen again
14:00:54  <PublicServer> <quazbutt> how does the game set its path finding up, is it a good ai?
14:01:08  <PublicServer> <Tray> DONT GET US STARTED! (:
14:01:10  <PublicServer> <V453000> each piece of track has some penalty v alue
14:01:16  <PublicServer> <V453000> lowest penalty value wins
14:01:18  <PublicServer> <V453000> +- that way
14:01:30  <PublicServer> <quazbutt> hows the penalty value calculated
14:01:44  <PublicServer> <V453000> sum of the pieces?
14:01:44  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> its added up along the possible routes
14:01:46  <PublicServer> <V453000> 1 track = 100
14:01:48  <PublicServer> <quazbutt> these trains handle up/downhill nicely
14:02:06  <PublicServer> <quazbutt> new inertia engine?
14:02:28  <PublicServer> <Tray> realistic acceleration model option
14:02:34  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> nah, just power and low setting for weight multiplier
14:02:52  <PublicServer> <V453000> lets not talk about weight multipliers :P
14:02:52  <PublicServer> <quazbutt> roro's are cool
14:03:27  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> massive roros are cooler :p
14:03:29  <PublicServer> <quazbutt> what are these floating beer kegs?
14:03:36  <PublicServer> <quazbutt> near oi
14:03:38  <PublicServer> <quazbutt> oil
14:03:57  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> we use them to connect the oil platforms to a station
14:04:04  <PublicServer> <quazbutt> yeah but what are they
14:04:10  <PublicServer> <V453000> ..
14:04:17  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> just fancy station tiles
14:04:20  <PublicServer> <Tray> please put a sign a sign next to it, that way it's much easier to find the stuff you're talking about
14:04:30  <PublicServer> <Tray> something like !123
14:04:32  <PublicServer> <quazbutt> oh
14:04:42  <PublicServer> <quazbutt> who made the crain near brunwell XD
14:04:44  <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> i did
14:04:54  <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> go into water ways
14:04:56  <PublicServer> <quazbutt> what for
14:05:14  <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> the canal tool
14:05:48  <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> then make a canal around the water u have just blown up
14:06:22  <PublicServer> <quazbutt> ah you have to be fast eh
14:06:30  <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> indeed
14:06:56  <PublicServer> <V453000> either additional pylons or moar APM
14:07:05  <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> note: irl blowing up water does not make land
14:07:19  <PublicServer> <V453000> it doesnt? :(
14:07:21  <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> nah
14:07:24  <PublicServer> <V453000> childhood myths spoilt
14:07:26  <PublicServer> <V453000> THANKS
14:07:32  <PublicServer> <quazbutt> what happens if someone  gets mischievious and decides to blow up parts of tracks etc
14:07:34  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
14:07:44  <PublicServer> <Tray> we reload
14:07:46  <PublicServer> <quazbutt> or to make a mountain
14:07:48  <PublicServer> <V453000> he will get banned quazbutt :)
14:07:55  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> his ass will be blown up :D
14:08:06  <PublicServer> <V453000> that is more exact expression :D
14:09:59  <PublicServer> <quazbutt> look i drew a life like penis
14:10:05  <PublicServer> <Dom> hmm to many vehicles..
14:10:16  <PublicServer> <quazbutt> someone look before it disappears
14:10:24  <PublicServer> <V453000> dont you want to add vehicles when half of the map is suffering orbital bombardment Dom?
14:10:52  <PublicServer> <Dom> always more bombing! :D
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14:11:08  <PublicServer> <quazbutt> how do you actually design these massive stations?
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14:11:14  <PublicServer> <V453000> you just do
14:11:16  <PublicServer> <quazbutt> the complexity seems... i dno
14:11:16  <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> i use guess work
14:11:52  <PublicServer> <quazbutt> and who sets up the trains to do the work
14:11:58  <PublicServer> <quazbutt> do you do each train manually?
14:12:20  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> nah, one per line, then we clone
14:12:22  <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> well all the trains from  say cravendale to a goods drop will be the same
14:12:44  <PublicServer> <quazbutt> i notice you always use full load
14:12:46  <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> then we share order (ctrl) clone
14:13:08  <PublicServer> <quazbutt> doesnth that tie up lines if the producer is not giving you enough goods?
14:13:14  <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> nope
14:13:20  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> woot
14:13:22  <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> as we have depots
14:13:32  <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> that store additional trains
14:13:52  <PublicServer> <quazbutt> do trains chill out in the depots if they cant move forward?
14:13:54  <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> which u will be able to spot under all the guff
14:14:00  <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> yep
14:14:06  <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> the drivers have a cup of tea
14:14:09  <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> and just chill out
14:14:11  <PublicServer> <quazbutt> is that in the vanilla version of the game too?
14:14:22  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes but you have to be able to build it
14:14:31  <PublicServer> <V453000> and change some settings too
14:14:34  <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> vanilla version? toy world?? :S
14:14:42  <PublicServer> <quazbutt> i mean without mods
14:14:56  <PublicServer> <quazbutt> what are all these signs at the
14:14:58  <PublicServer> <quazbutt> BEER PICKUP
14:15:02  <PublicServer> <quazbutt> they do anything?
14:15:04  <PublicServer> <V453000> newGRFs cannot really change the game behavior massively
14:15:15  <PublicServer> <V453000> which signs
14:15:21  <PublicServer> <V453000> the text or signals?
14:15:23  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> they can... look at the industry sets
14:15:41  <PublicServer> <quazbutt> um
14:15:41  <PublicServer> <V453000> well yeah but it doesnt change possibilities like building an overflow
14:15:51  <PublicServer> <quazbutt> ok at beer picup i kust see lots of signs on the road
14:16:01  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> true
14:16:07  <PublicServer> <quazbutt> not road, ground
14:16:21  <PublicServer> <V453000> well text doesnt do anything that is just notes
14:16:31  <PublicServer> <quazbutt> no no
14:16:35  <PublicServer> <quazbutt> actual signs on the grass
14:16:49  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> thats just bought land
14:16:52  <PublicServer> <V453000> unless you mean rails i have no clue
14:16:55  <PublicServer> <V453000> oh
14:17:01  <PublicServer> <V453000> that
14:17:08  <PublicServer> <quazbutt> you cant build on that?
14:17:10  <PublicServer> <V453000> just prevents industries from spawning there
14:17:22  <PublicServer> <quazbutt> oh
14:17:32  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> or keeps cities from growing too large
14:17:36  <PublicServer> <quazbutt> incase of need to make future changes?
14:17:42  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> y
14:17:44  <PublicServer> <V453000> cities dont grow without roads :p
14:17:46  <PublicServer> <V453000> yeah
14:18:12  <PublicServer> <quazbutt> how many hours has this game gone on for?
14:18:27  <PublicServer> <V453000> a week I think?
14:18:29  <PublicServer> <quazbutt> like
14:18:35  <PublicServer> <quazbutt> only a week?
14:18:49  <PublicServer> <quazbutt> wow so much trains built XD
14:18:59  <PublicServer> <V453000> 25.10.12
14:19:02  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> building trains is easy
14:19:04  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> done
14:19:11  <PublicServer> <quazbutt> but i notic that 3 lanes ineach direction is the standard approach atm
14:19:13  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> nice vin
14:19:19  <PublicServer> <quazbutt> i meant rails
14:19:53  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> originally most tracks were 2 rails per direction
14:20:17  <GLAD0S> !password
14:20:18  <PublicServer> GLAD0S: daemon
14:20:21  <PublicServer> <V453000> some choices are awful long Vinnie :) but I think it should work
14:20:23  <PublicServer> <quazbutt> oh yeah how do you go about upgrading without disrupting *everything*
14:20:29  <PublicServer> <quazbutt> particularly with big upgrades
14:20:34  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> balanced
14:20:42  <PublicServer> <V453000> sometimes we just disrupt everything
14:20:42  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> hi guys!
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14:20:44  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> without 500 tracks in middle
14:20:44  <PublicServer> <V453000> sometimes we dont
14:20:46  <PublicServer> <V453000> hello
14:20:48  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> Hi
14:20:58  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> wow
14:20:58  <PublicServer> <Dom> Hi
14:21:00  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> hi glados
14:21:06  <PublicServer> <quazbutt> and how are you identifying what needs chaging??
14:21:16  <PublicServer> <V453000> you can clearly see the source of jams usually
14:21:22  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> god wow
14:21:28  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> we look at the jams and start up our brains :D
14:21:59  <PublicServer> <V453000> welcome to the other world :p
14:22:01  <PublicServer> <quazbutt> at Steel Pick
14:22:15  <PublicServer> <quazbutt> i see a huge idustry looking thing
14:22:19  <PublicServer> <quazbutt> whats that?
14:22:29  <PublicServer> <V453000> ?
14:22:31  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> just station tiles
14:22:34  <PublicServer> <quazbutt> do industries get bigger and take up more tiles?
14:22:40  <PublicServer> <quazbutt> oh
14:22:46  <PublicServer> <quazbutt> so someone built that to look nice
14:22:46  <PublicServer> <V453000> ah lol
14:22:52  <PublicServer> <Dom> yes :)
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14:24:12  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> zooming out full is actually lagging my windows 7 laptop
14:24:18  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> quazmodo, if you want to see how big upgrades are made without disrupting traffic, look at Graningway
14:24:40  <PublicServer> <V453000> omg I have been discovered
14:24:51  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> owned
14:24:57  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> big brother is watching you :D
14:25:11  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> LOL
14:25:14  <quazimodo> !password
14:25:14  <PublicServer> quazimodo: dieing
14:25:19  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> i have  3 viewports open atm^^
14:25:21  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> have you been on that website
14:25:27  <PublicServer> <V453000> viewports are for the weak
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14:25:38  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> lol
14:25:40  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> 3 openttdclients  is for pro´s
14:25:46  <PublicServer> <V453000> :D
14:25:48  <PublicServer> <Dom> xD
14:25:50  <PublicServer> <quazbutt> where's granningway
14:26:02  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> look it up on the towns button
14:26:10  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> and put it in alphabetical order
14:26:18  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> by clicking name
14:26:32  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> TRAFFICJAM SPOTTED
14:26:48  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> there are some
14:26:54  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> ok
14:27:04  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> it would be hard if there wasnt
14:27:26  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> where did you see one?
14:27:48  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> at
14:27:54  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> wait...
14:28:12  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> just place a !jam sign
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14:28:14  <PublicServer> <quazbutt> yeah so its all progressive
14:28:20  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> i cant anyway
14:28:24  <PublicServer> <quazbutt> i wish i knewthe keyboard shortcuts
14:28:26  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> Brb
14:28:28  <PublicServer> <V453000> soectatir
14:28:31  <PublicServer> <V453000> spectator
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14:28:42  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> at bbh 12/v453000
14:28:44  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> it comes and goes
14:28:55  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> spelling fail
14:28:56  <PublicServer> <Dom> lol
14:29:00  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> LOL
14:29:02  <PublicServer> <Dom> why are we red now
14:29:04  <PublicServer> <Dom> lol
14:29:14  <PublicServer> <V453000> WE ALL SPECTATORS NOAW
14:29:30  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> that looks cool
14:29:31  <PublicServer> <V453000> also who changes colours will be shot
14:29:37  <PublicServer> <Dom> and hanged
14:29:39  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> on site
14:29:41  <PublicServer> <Dom> and drowned
14:30:01  <PublicServer> <quazbutt> oi i liked the mauve
14:30:04  <PublicServer> <quazbutt> XD
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14:30:27  <BenJTotterdell> !password
14:30:27  <PublicServer> BenJTotterdell: dieing
14:30:37  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> what does the nh mods do?
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14:30:45  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> the NH mods do?
14:30:48  <PublicServer> <V453000> just different foundations
14:30:54  <PublicServer> <V453000> and depots
14:30:56  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> ok
14:31:14  <PublicServer> <quazbutt> i havea huge urge to begin growing the towns XD
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14:31:26  <PublicServer> <V453000> the hell why
14:31:29  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> for fun
14:31:32  <PublicServer> <V453000> ..
14:31:38  <PublicServer> <quazbutt> so that the people have some place to live
14:31:50  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> all those hobos on the trains
14:32:00  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> nowhere to go
14:32:02  <PublicServer> <V453000> there is no people the only inhabitants of this area are trains
14:32:02  <PublicServer> <quazbutt> it would be really cool if i could set aside some land, have the trains deliver people to it, and make a themepark in there
14:32:05  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> they dont nee another place to live... they are all in the trains :D
14:32:12  <PublicServer> <quazbutt> and then if i click it, its roller coaster tycoon
14:32:26  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> ???
14:32:40  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> can i join the company
14:32:46  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> and help somehow
14:33:01  <PublicServer> <V453000> im not sure how could you possibly help at this stage but of course you can
14:33:12  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> cheers
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14:33:56  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> wow, sideline 5 is packed with lost trains :D
14:34:02  <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> ok finally finished
14:34:08  <PublicServer> <V453000> idk where those are from
14:34:23  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> wheres that
14:34:49  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> i think they feared your Dynamit, and drove off the ML
14:34:55  <PublicServer> <V453000> :d
14:35:01  <PublicServer> <V453000> pussies
14:35:28  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> t
14:35:42  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> at slh 06 /dwarf
14:35:46  <PublicServer> <quazbutt> do these industries start to produce more as you add bigger stations and take mmore?
14:36:00  <PublicServer> <V453000> no it just requires good servicing and time
14:36:06  <PublicServer> <V453000> bigger stations are the result
14:36:12  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> there
14:36:16  <PublicServer> <quazbutt> sure
14:36:26  <PublicServer> <quazbutt> so more trains makes them produce more heh
14:36:28  <PublicServer> <quazbutt> eh
14:36:30  <PublicServer> <V453000> +-
14:36:36  <PublicServer> <quazbutt> cos ive never seen a woods that makes 450 tonnes :/
14:36:52  <PublicServer> <V453000> 2295 is the maximum
14:36:58  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> whats the difference between a normal order and a nonstop order
14:37:04  <PublicServer> <V453000> 2550 is maximum possibly reachable for very temporary time
14:37:14  <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> vinnie, I thought we were doing 5 lines  out of MSH 02 :/
14:37:18  <PublicServer> <quazbutt> yeah but how do you make a woods actually do that
14:37:21  <PublicServer> <V453000> 6 BenTotterdell
14:37:27  <PublicServer> <quazbutt> most ive seen is 140 on my mpas
14:37:31  <PublicServer> <V453000> quazbutt: you just make a train always load there
14:37:33  <PublicServer> <V453000> and wait
14:37:39  <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> dang
14:37:41  <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> I see
14:37:47  <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> didn't zoom in enough
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14:38:37  <PublicServer> <quazbutt> i notice that all trains basically have 2 lines that they can go down
14:38:37  <PublicServer> <quazbutt> erm
14:38:40  <PublicServer> <quazbutt> i mean statios
14:38:50  <PublicServer> <quazbutt> they go to 2 stations for the most part
14:39:13  <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> whats the quick key for trees?
14:39:26  <PublicServer> <V453000> well yeah of course you need to have at least 1 train waiting in the station at all times
14:39:40  <PublicServer> <V453000> somewhere in the right part of keyboard
14:39:43  <PublicServer> <quazbutt> anyone see the giant tree penis i made?
14:39:50  <PublicServer> <V453000> I
14:39:52  <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> thanks V :P
14:40:06  <PublicServer> <V453000> yw.
14:40:41  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> SLH06 Jam solved
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14:40:47  <PublicServer> <V453000> SLH 05 moved
14:40:53  <Jacko> ok now this might be working
14:40:56  <Jacko> !password
14:40:56  <PublicServer> Jacko: gaunts
14:40:59  <PublicServer> <V453000> hello :)
14:41:00  <Jacko> aha
14:41:02  <Jacko> hi
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14:41:19  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> hi
14:41:21  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> thats sooo cool
14:41:23  <PublicServer> <V453000> welcome
14:41:23  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> hi
14:41:26  <PublicServer> <Dom> hi
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14:41:49  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> those are my kind of junctions... but bigger :O
14:42:11  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes we secretly copied from you
14:42:14  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> lol
14:42:24  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> :D
14:42:30  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> without any screens or saves from me thats rather impressive :D
14:42:41  <PublicServer> <V453000> ^^
14:42:52  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> who says we dont have your saves?
14:42:58  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> i did lol
14:43:14  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> are you sure about it?
14:43:24  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> not any more lol
14:43:27  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> :D
14:43:31  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> anyways
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14:44:21  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> well now, this is...... quite confusing
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14:44:48  <PublicServer> <V453000> what devilish thing have you found
14:44:51  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> im sure once i get my head around the priority stuff everything else will be much simpler.. i hope
14:45:05  <PublicServer> <V453000> it will help a bit :p
14:45:05  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> im looking around 'soon to be gone town'
14:45:07  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> priorities are easy
14:45:26  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> k
14:45:28  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> merging any to any is thereally confusing thing
14:45:34  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> at least to me
14:45:41  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes that is basically the hardest thing
14:46:11  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> and if i see BBH 04 for example... brain overload
14:46:13  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> I notice that short trains are always used
14:46:13  <PublicServer> <V453000> the overflows and other logic stuff that I like to annoy people with is usually rather simple to build once you understand it
14:46:31  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> im eager to learn and im on holiday so lets get going!
14:46:31  <PublicServer> <V453000> not always
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14:46:46  <Maraxus> !password
14:46:46  <PublicServer> Maraxus: gaunts
14:46:50  <PublicServer> <V453000> well priority is the first thing, that is the basic understanding of presignals
14:47:00  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> i got an idea of how presignals work
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14:47:02  <PublicServer> <V453000> from that derives the general network system
14:47:08  <PublicServer> <Maraxus> hi
14:47:11  <PublicServer> <V453000> hi
14:47:13  <PublicServer> <Dom> hi
14:47:35  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> hi
14:47:37  <PublicServer> <V453000> the priority is just a chain of presignals, getting red when a train is at any part of the chain
14:47:39  <PublicServer> <V453000> thats all
14:48:17  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> im going to go lok at the wiki page again
14:48:27  <PublicServer> <V453000> always a good place to start with
14:48:54  <Jacko> hehe
14:49:34  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> i started with old PSG saves... first thought: WTF? then i worked into it
14:50:41  <PublicServer> <V453000> the best is to try building
14:50:48  <PublicServer> <V453000> in SP or here, just trying
14:51:11  <PublicServer> <V453000> even the wiki contains old and today considered wrong information
14:51:17  <PublicServer> <V453000> when you try it you generally see why
14:51:24  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> yep. But before i saw my first PSG, i didnt even know about priors
14:51:55  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> I only used presignals the "vanilla" way
14:52:13  <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> how do u follow a train?
14:52:19  <PublicServer> <V453000> open trian window
14:52:22  <PublicServer> <V453000> ctrl click on the eye
14:52:38  <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> eye?
14:52:48  <PublicServer> <V453000> well the first button in the right panel
14:52:48  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> the upper button
14:52:58  <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> the arrows ok
14:53:16  <PublicServer> <V453000> might be arrows in opengfx
14:53:18  <PublicServer> <V453000> lol
14:53:40  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> you play with the classic TP?
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14:53:58  <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> sometimes
14:54:00  <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> I switch
14:54:07  <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> this is a much smaller console
14:54:10  <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> so it is harder
14:54:42  <PublicServer> <V453000> tp?
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14:55:03  <PublicServer> <V453000> you mean the original base set?
14:55:06  <PublicServer> <V453000> idk what TP means :d
14:55:08  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> texture pack (graphics set)
14:55:14  <PublicServer> <V453000> oh
14:55:14  <PublicServer> <V453000> of course
14:55:17  <PublicServer> <V453000> ttd set is best
14:55:27  <PublicServer> <V453000> opengfx is free but ...
14:55:41  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> ok read the basics of presignal stuff
14:55:48  <PublicServer> <Jacko.>  of it i knew anyway
14:56:02  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> *most of it
14:56:44  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> the only thing I dont like about open gfx are teh fields... they look kinda purple
14:56:50  <BenJTotterdell> i'd best do some work now
14:56:52  <PublicServer> <Jacko.>  use open gfx
14:56:57  <BenJTotterdell> c yas later
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14:57:00  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> *i dont
14:57:02  <PublicServer> <V453000> opengfx has no artistic value to me
14:57:13  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> something weird with my keyboard is going on here
14:58:12  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> yea its basically a copy of original gfx
14:58:20  <PublicServer> <V453000> no treally
14:58:32  <PublicServer> <V453000> that isnt the point
14:58:54  <PublicServer> <V453000> the style just lacks contrast and bright pixels in general
14:59:24  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> true, and its even worse in 32bpp
14:59:30  <PublicServer> <V453000> pretty much
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15:01:12  <PublicServer> <V453000> oh Vinnie is gone?
15:01:30  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> looking at your network plan (whihci s kinda cool) what does the CL mean?
15:01:40  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> curve length
15:01:46  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> oh ok
15:02:24  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> it means no curves shorter than CL
15:02:32  <PublicServer> <V453000> or else!
15:02:35  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> i know
15:02:37  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> to keep the trains on max speed
15:02:55  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> or else?
15:03:09  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> so basically is there anything that needs doing this game?
15:03:09  <PublicServer> <V453000> you + dynamite = ???
15:03:19  <PublicServer> <V453000> we are expanding in a lot of places Jacko.
15:03:25  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> haha ok
15:03:44  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> im watching the new junction being built
15:03:54  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> which?
15:04:04  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> Saningstone
15:04:14  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> oh bbh05 is under work again :D
15:04:14  <PublicServer> <V453000> I just started there as vinnie left it alone
15:04:24  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> ok
15:05:07  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> a lot of tunnels hehe
15:05:13  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> is that 2 for every one?
15:05:19  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes
15:05:29  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> because otherwise the trains wait behind it.
15:05:40  <PublicServer> <V453000> well in this case 1 tunnel might actually be enough
15:05:43  <PublicServer> <V453000> but safety is 2
15:05:47  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> i know that (very) basic concept
15:06:05  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> the longer the gap, the more tunnels needed
15:06:15  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> makes perfect sens ;)
15:06:17  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> *sense
15:06:48  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> so how will this fit in with BBH 5 operating right next to it?
15:06:55  <PublicServer> <V453000> it wont
15:07:01  <PublicServer> <V453000> it is basically a rebuild
15:07:03  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> ok
15:07:49  <PublicServer> <V453000> the area between BBH 05 and MSH 02 got too clumped
15:07:53  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> is this replacing BBH 5 then
15:07:55  <PublicServer> <V453000> so we expand/rebuild at the same time
15:07:57  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes
15:08:07  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> ah ok makes a lot more sense to me now
15:09:05  <quazimodo> so
15:09:08  <quazimodo> bridges suck
15:09:11  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> lol
15:09:17  <PublicServer> <V453000> :d
15:09:17  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> as always
15:12:56  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> how exactly are you going to sort the old lines into the junction without causing mega disruption
15:13:14  <PublicServer> <V453000> that is what I am looking at right now
15:13:24  <PublicServer> <V453000> generally I am just going to expand MSH 02 now
15:13:30  <PublicServer> <V453000> so it is able to take it
15:13:33  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> my solution would normally be a sideline but i dont see any space for that
15:13:55  <PublicServer> <V453000> sideline is for something different that is where trains pick up cargo
15:14:01  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> oh
15:14:04  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> a diversion then?
15:14:19  <PublicServer> <V453000> no I will just try to make most of the stuff ready before connecting it
15:14:29  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> alright then
15:14:51  <PublicServer> <V453000> just kinda slowly movingthings around
15:15:05  <PublicServer> <V453000> a big jam might happen in the process, that is likely too
15:15:19  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> seems almost unavoidable to me
15:15:29  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> but then i was never a super junction expert ;)
15:15:41  <PublicServer> <V453000> maybe
15:16:23  <Vinnie_> !password
15:16:23  <PublicServer> Vinnie_: nerved
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15:16:35  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> hi
15:16:37  <PublicServer> <V453000> bitch
15:16:41  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> lol
15:16:51  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> holla
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15:18:44  <PublicServer> <V453000> k lets call that a 4th
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15:20:31  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> so who was working on BBH05?
15:20:37  <PublicServer> <V453000> me
15:20:43  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> and im watching :D
15:20:53  <PublicServer> <V453000> so yeah it is his fault
15:20:53  <PublicServer> <V453000> ^
15:20:55  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> lol
15:21:02  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> always my faut
15:21:09  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> been here about 20 minutes :D
15:21:17  <PublicServer> <Dom> someone could expand bbh 13
15:21:24  <Tray> !password
15:21:24  <PublicServer> Tray: nerved
15:21:24  <PublicServer> <Dom> ups not yet
15:21:40  <PublicServer> <Dom> but soon
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15:21:44  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> 20 minutes and you managed to anger V
15:21:46  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> ohh
15:21:54  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> lol
15:22:04  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> i did nothing
15:22:11  <PublicServer> <V453000> that doesnt matter! :p
15:24:52  <Sylf> nothing is still something :p
15:25:00  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> lol
15:27:05  <Sylf> if ya wanna do something, add eye candies for the coal and woods station near the top of the map
15:27:21  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> eyecandy has never been my thing XD
15:27:22  <Ammler> !content
15:27:22  <PublicServer> Ammler: [Content] Connection established
15:27:47  <V453000> hm
15:27:49  <V453000> !ping
15:27:49  <PublicServer> V453000: pong
15:27:57  <V453000> !password
15:27:57  <PublicServer> V453000: aboded
15:27:58  <PublicServer> V453000: Downloading 1 file(s) (17408 bytes)
15:27:58  <PublicServer> V453000: Completed download of 2354
15:27:59  <PublicServer> V453000: [Content] (you need to rescan(ai|game|newgrf) to have the new content loaded)
15:28:00  <Webster> Read the Quickstart - #openttdcoop Wiki - (again, try !grf)
15:28:02  <Sylf> start practicing :)
15:28:18  <Jacko> i think i lost connection lol
15:28:24  <PublicServer> V453000: [Content] Connection closed not rised -> break
15:28:24  <PublicServer> V453000: [Content] Done!
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15:28:24  <Jacko> yep its gone
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15:28:30  <PublicServer> *** Game paused (number of players)
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15:28:32  <PublicServer> <V453000> well done Ammler :PP
15:28:35  <V453000> hm
15:28:43  <Sylf> huzzah!
15:28:43  <Jacko> the hell?
15:28:46  <Ammler> content finally should work :-P
15:28:57  <PublicServer> <V453000> :D
15:29:00  <PublicServer> <V453000> aka kicking everyone
15:29:01  <Maraxus> !password
15:29:01  <PublicServer> Maraxus: aboded
15:29:04  <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players)
15:29:04  <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (number of players)
15:29:06  <PublicServer> *** Tray joined the game
15:29:08  <Ammler> oh, nice :-P
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15:29:23  <PublicServer> <V453000> im starting to like that command
15:29:25  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> that was weird
15:29:36  <PublicServer> <V453000> WTF there was only 2 lines from BBH 08?
15:30:10  <PublicServer> <V453000> no matter now there is FOUR because fuck you trains
15:30:12  <Vinnie_> !password
15:30:12  <PublicServer> Vinnie_: aboded
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15:31:34  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> well so far the junction moving has gone swimmingly
15:31:36  <PublicServer> <V453000> BBH 09 expanding to be done if someone needs to do
15:31:59  <PublicServer> <V453000> it is almost done in fact Jacko
15:32:05  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> i know
15:32:06  <Dom_> !password
15:32:06  <PublicServer> Dom_: aboded
15:32:07  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> looks great
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15:32:14  <Ammler> V453000: any idea, why it kicked all?
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15:32:19  <PublicServer> <V453000> not an awesome junction
15:32:25  <PublicServer> <V453000> connection issue I think Ammler
15:32:32  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> well im a newbie so everything here looks awesome to me ;D
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15:38:55  <PublicServer> <Tray> MSH 03 is kind of ...
15:38:57  <PublicServer> <Tray> big?
15:39:08  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes
15:39:11  <PublicServer> <V453000> :z
15:39:24  <PublicServer> <V453000> I told Maraxus in the beginning already
15:39:39  <PublicServer> <Tray> but?
15:39:49  <PublicServer> <Tray> he decided to ignore? (:
15:39:59  <PublicServer> <V453000> but you see result :p
15:40:02  <PublicServer> <V453000> nah he said he would do something about it
15:40:15  <sturmi2> !password
15:40:15  <PublicServer> sturmi2: enrage
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15:40:32  <PublicServer> <Tray> maybe it would be cool to fit a SLH inside that thing
15:40:42  <PublicServer> <V453000> :DD or two
15:40:48  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> would be cool but why?
15:40:58  <PublicServer> <V453000> just to show the hugeness
15:41:00  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> inside BBH05?
15:41:12  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> MSH03
15:42:10  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> some stuck trains in the new junction
15:42:22  <PublicServer> <V453000> their problem
15:42:28  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> lol
15:42:42  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> its friday, traindrivers got beer with them
15:42:44  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> haha
15:42:46  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> there happy
15:42:48  <PublicServer> <V453000> we are just a poor transportation company you CANT blame us
15:43:03  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> im waving
15:44:12  <PublicServer> <V453000> Sturmi: did you say something about BBH 05 and me previously?
15:44:22  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> hehe the 'boom' sound of the dyamite :D
15:44:22  <PublicServer> <V453000> like yesterday
15:44:44  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> erm?
15:44:54  <PublicServer> <V453000> oh come on short memory :)
15:45:09  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> oh you mean something like move it out ov V's range?
15:45:15  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes
15:45:29  <PublicServer> <V453000> its fucked now
15:45:47  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> nope
15:45:50  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> stupid tower being stupid :D
15:45:57  <PublicServer> <V453000> its fine
15:46:03  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> are the tunnels for prios?
15:46:13  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> tunnel that one
15:46:13  <PublicServer> <V453000> pretty much
15:46:19  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> ok
15:46:21  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> for the tower
15:46:37  <PublicServer> <V453000> ye
15:48:19  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> my brain is melting looking at that construction lol
15:48:29  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> but i can learn this stuff :D
15:48:29  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> hes just tring to make a prio
15:48:33  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> my brain has given up :d
15:48:35  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> i know that
15:48:41  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> and thats about it XD
15:49:15  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> V i see one connection?
15:49:21  <PublicServer> <V453000> hang on
15:49:31  <PublicServer> <V453000> nukes falling
15:49:33  <PublicServer> <Dom> bbh 12 needs upgrade
15:49:35  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> lol
15:49:57  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> do you merge MSH2 into the BBH?
15:50:15  <PublicServer> <V453000> sort of
15:50:37  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> ok now i understand why there are 6 eastbound lanes
15:52:27  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> missed one in middle
15:52:53  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> lol
15:53:03  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> ikea junction guide
15:53:18  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> comes in 4000 bits of rail,bridge and tunnel
15:53:25  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> signals not included ;)
15:53:39  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> but they do give spare signals
15:53:41  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> almost like the ikea xmas tree
15:53:45  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> incase you lose one or two
15:53:47  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> lol
15:54:01  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> next moneth i would agree a bit more to that but yes
15:54:03  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> *month
15:54:27  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> iim trying to figure out whihc way it prioritises
15:54:41  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> 3 tiles down the mainline
15:55:16  <PublicServer> <V453000> yay
15:55:20  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> omg
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15:55:40  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> looks like a game of snake gone horribly wrong
15:55:41  <PublicServer> <V453000> there are worse things ;)
15:55:48  <PublicServer> <Tray> it looks realy ugly ):
15:55:54  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> RIP snake
15:55:56  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> lol
15:56:14  <V453000>
15:56:25  <PublicServer> <V453000> ^^
15:57:03  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> thats when he played 6 month on coop
15:57:07  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> months
15:57:11  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> wtf
15:57:17  <PublicServer> <V453000> ?
15:57:23  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> just looked at the screen
15:57:24  <sturmi2> another good one
15:57:31  <PublicServer> <V453000> haha
15:57:33  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> i got bridge blindness
15:57:34  <sturmi2> with perfect title
15:57:42  <PublicServer> <V453000> the brainmeltor
15:58:13  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> my brainmelter is your SRNW in PSG 200
15:58:20  <PublicServer> <V453000> oh yeah
15:58:22  <PublicServer> <V453000> that was amazing
15:58:27  <Jacko> *picks up bits of brain that have fallen out*
15:58:42  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> the 5 islands psg?
15:58:52  <PublicServer> <V453000> 16 islands
15:58:53  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> just looking at this stuff is giving me a headache
15:59:06  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> ok but like 5 themes
15:59:08  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> now i have to learn how to build it lol
15:59:14  <PublicServer> <V453000> no like 16 themes :p
15:59:19  <Jacko> XD
15:59:22  <Jacko> maybe
15:59:22  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> with that huge (and messy) transfer station
15:59:33  <planetmaker> brainzzzzz! *slurp*
15:59:35  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> for grain and cows
15:59:38  <Jacko> lol
15:59:56  <PublicServer> <Tray> it's a 10 -> 2 o:
16:00:40  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> and so the finished junction... :O
16:00:44  <V453000>¨
16:00:48  <V453000> this is what Vinnie was talking about
16:00:54  <V453000>
16:01:24  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> oh yea the iron ore WTF
16:01:44  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> wtf pretty mutch descrips it
16:01:46  <PublicServer> <V453000> it aint no WTF it was our pet :(
16:01:46  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> hmm
16:02:16  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> well i wanna learn how to do this stuff badly
16:02:22  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> just do it
16:02:28  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> enough people to help you
16:02:30  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> at first glance its just a horrible mess of rails, but if you look deeply into it...
16:02:33  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> and it would really make my day if i could see one of these junctions with my name pasted in it lol
16:02:39  <PublicServer> <V453000> this generally is just placing a lot of tracks at one spot
16:02:41  <PublicServer> <V453000> idk how to learn that
16:02:53  <PublicServer> <V453000> it doesnt really have any deeper logic
16:02:58  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> no i dont either >_<
16:03:13  <PublicServer> <V453000> you just try to fit things in one spot, move rails around and this is the result
16:03:15  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> its just several differnet bits merged into one place i guess
16:03:18  <planetmaker> Jacko, it just needs patience. Lots of patience
16:03:21  <PublicServer> <V453000> but systematically it isnt really anyhow special
16:03:29  <PublicServer> <V453000> probably what pm said is best
16:03:31  <PublicServer> <V453000> patience
16:03:35  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> eh
16:03:41  <PublicServer> <Tray> I think the more often you do these things the more familiar you get with very dense spots
16:03:43  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> and dedication
16:03:47  <planetmaker> even at the times when I build those junctions weekly, it took me like 2 to 3 hourse for a full 4-way BBH with 2L2R tracks each direction
16:03:49  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> so what else is broken?
16:03:56  <planetmaker> *hours. Not hourse
16:04:06  <PublicServer> <V453000> BBH 09 will be broken very soon probably
16:04:10  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> horses
16:04:12  <PublicServer> <Tray> 2 horses and a saddle!
16:04:12  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> *horses :p
16:04:14  <PublicServer> <V453000> Dom was already talking about 13
16:04:15  <planetmaker> those also ;-)
16:04:16  <PublicServer> <Dom> and bbh 13
16:04:21  <planetmaker> for food, of course
16:04:22  <PublicServer> <Dom> and bbh 12
16:04:26  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> well ive played this since I was 6, and this is the first mega challenge, so i tell the OTTD world to bring it!
16:04:33  <PublicServer> <Dom> i upgraded  msh 08
16:04:50  <planetmaker> stations usually are a bit easier than full 4-way BBHs :-)
16:05:13  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> primaries or drops?
16:05:13  <PublicServer> <V453000> a bit .p
16:05:15  <planetmaker> maybe not easier. But faster
16:05:39  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> i saw the video of BBH 11
16:05:46  <V453000> I seriously enjoyed this game
16:05:52  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> i guess once you know.. you just know
16:06:17  <V453000> and that junction is my favourite too :) or one of them at least
16:06:21  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> that video brought me back onto the server
16:06:23  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> that isnt a fair junction, empty space is filled up with tracks and 1 tile trains
16:06:45  <V453000> well at least it has some purpose Sturmi :)
16:06:51  <V453000> Vinnie: mfb added those :(
16:07:08  <Jacko> its kinda funny looking and seeing the signs of towns you destroyed for that monstrosity
16:07:16  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> i bet you killed anyone that touched it
16:07:19  <V453000> I like the amount of bridge levels etc
16:07:27  <V453000> yes Mark even started nuking one of the mergers
16:08:04  <V453000> the fun part was expanding it from LLL_RRR and keeping footprint
16:08:07  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> BBH9 looks ok to me, just fixed two signal gaps
16:08:30  <PublicServer> <V453000> should not be enough throughput wise soon
16:08:32  <PublicServer> <V453000> I think
16:09:22  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> So a 3rd to MSH05 would fix that
16:09:26  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> no big thing
16:09:28  <PublicServer> <V453000> +-
16:10:46  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> i know its probably hidden on the wiki somewhere but how do you define when a gime is 'finished'?
16:10:50  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> *game
16:11:00  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> when people are done
16:11:06  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> lol
16:11:12  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> fair enough
16:11:35  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> but don't wait till next game to build
16:11:45  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> no iwasnt planning to
16:11:55  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> people done it before and find out that the main thing is build in 3 hours
16:12:35  <V453000> !rcon set raw_industry_construction 1
16:13:09  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> SLH 5 is looking very slow
16:14:23  <PublicServer> <Tray> I think BBH02 -> BBH12 is the problem wich might need a fourth line
16:14:38  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> seems to be contributing towards it yes
16:15:01  <PublicServer> <V453000> BOOZEFEST INITIATED
16:15:03  <PublicServer> <V453000> cya
16:15:06  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> ok
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16:15:10  <PublicServer> <Dom> bb hf
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16:16:01  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> well im assuming you know this anyway but some work needs doing here
16:16:15  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> because generally if you fix something in one place it just cramps up in another
16:16:33  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> thats life
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16:16:41  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> someone did SLH13
16:16:55  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> i started on slh 13
16:16:58  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> oke
16:17:12  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> just thinking about the merge
16:18:22  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> thats quite a hub for one station
16:18:40  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> oke
16:19:38  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> like this?
16:19:45  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> sure
16:19:51  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> but short is better
16:21:17  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> like that
16:21:21  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> i think
16:21:39  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> looks good
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16:24:09  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> in other news we nearly have £7 billion lol
16:24:18  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> but thats not important
16:26:20  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> i can see that MSH 8 is slow, and that works is being done, but what is being done?
16:28:02  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> thats what im saying
16:28:12  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> if the split merge bit was doubled
16:28:27  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> ML comes with 3 lanes into MSH8
16:28:30  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> we could sort where the trains go before they enter the junction
16:28:45  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> wanna give it a try jacko?
16:28:52  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> hehe
16:28:55  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> with a bit of advice yes
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16:29:13  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> hmm
16:29:40  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> well
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16:29:59  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> alright im going in
16:30:34  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> is the spare lane between BBH 13 and SLH 1 connected fully?
16:30:36  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> you also use that line with your gf?
16:30:44  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> lol i dont have a gf
16:30:47  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> and never have :(
16:31:45  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> would that work out?
16:32:00  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> k then
16:32:26  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> i can sort priorities after
16:32:33  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> lets get the connection in the right direcitions
16:33:15  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> thats very cool
16:33:33  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> does the maths for you
16:33:51  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> still 4 :o
16:33:58  <PublicServer> <Dom> gap 9 and you will need only 3
16:34:05  <PublicServer> <Dom> gap8 you need 2
16:34:16  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> ok gap9 wont be possible
16:34:22  <PublicServer> <Dom> oh sry gap 10 needs 3
16:34:37  <PublicServer> <Dom> till gap 14
16:35:19  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> well.. its a start
16:35:37  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> what do you lot think?
16:36:52  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> does that new layout work ok or does it need a bit more jumbling?
16:37:07  <PublicServer> <Dom> well some waiting bays are always goods
16:37:10  <PublicServer> <Dom> *good
16:37:28  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> seems ok AFAIK
16:37:34  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> which isnt very far
16:37:57  <PublicServer> <Dom> and cl and forced routes..
16:38:12  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> hmm
16:38:16  <PublicServer> <Dom> and signal gaps :)
16:38:46  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> hehe theres some room for improvement
16:39:04  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> what do mean by forced route?
16:39:10  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> hmm yes
16:39:27  <PublicServer> <Dom> well pbs forces the train to take the free track even if it would be into the wron directions
16:39:33  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> does it?
16:39:39  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> hmm thats news to me
16:39:43  <PublicServer> <Dom> trains may get lost
16:40:05  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> missing exit to South
16:40:07  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> hmm thats an issue
16:40:23  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> though currently everything seems ok
16:40:45  <PublicServer> <Dom> oh and jacko also look that the cruves have a lenght of 3 tiles
16:41:03  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> hmm
16:41:25  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> im struggling to see which curves...
16:41:40  <PublicServer> <Dom> well the ones that are 1 ore 2 tiles long :)
16:41:47  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> hmm
16:41:50  <PublicServer> <Dom> see signs cl
16:42:24  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> i think the waiting bay is long enough now
16:42:50  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> oh through the middle
16:42:57  <PublicServer> <Dom> well one of them is the other isn't
16:43:59  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> that any better?
16:44:38  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> quick question could we make those tunnels slightly longer as ithink one of the curves are too short
16:44:48  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> wich curve?
16:45:02  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> no S bend
16:45:04  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> its fine
16:45:07  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> but ok
16:45:11  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> cool
16:45:47  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> can i paste my name on a sign saying I did that?
16:45:53  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> oh
16:45:59  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> i take that to be a no lol
16:46:05  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> these tunnels are almost maximum for 4 tunnels
16:46:15  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> brb
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16:46:32  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> yyeah those tunnels are ok
16:46:46  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> i just wanted to use that function so bad lol
16:49:00  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> everything looks ok now
16:49:30  <PublicServer> <Dom> well almost
16:49:40  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> whats missing?
16:49:46  <PublicServer> <Dom> the lines on the other sides of the tunnel needs a straight one north
16:49:57  <PublicServer> <Dom> connecting msh 08
16:50:08  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> thats not me lol
16:50:50  <PublicServer> <Dom> me
16:50:53  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> ok
16:50:55  <PublicServer> <Dom> some missing signals
16:51:03  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> i just have a cigarette break :)
16:51:06  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> k
16:51:10  <PublicServer> <Dom> k
16:51:24  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> i was nowhere near finished but thx :)
16:51:46  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> wait you said about tunnels to msh8?
16:52:30  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> ok
16:52:36  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> hmm
16:52:46  <PublicServer> <Dom> gtgo
16:52:48  <PublicServer> <Dom> bb
16:52:52  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> k
16:52:54  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> cu
16:52:56  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> cya
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16:53:02  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> i have a crack at this
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16:53:29  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> hmm its heading down that way to slh 1
16:54:23  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> hmm
16:54:51  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> space as always is an issue here...
16:55:49  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> hm hm hm
16:57:07  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> south to west should be ok
16:57:54  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> currently im deciphering how to get fomr the top of the tunnels to msh 8
16:58:08  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> which i keep think ing as mash :D
16:59:11  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> hmmm
17:03:31  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> i just realised
17:04:01  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> hmm
17:04:11  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> why do i never think of the obvious
17:04:19  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> only 2 tunnels needed
17:04:46  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> the last bridges were ok
17:04:49  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> sort of
17:05:00  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> they were going the wrong way >_<
17:05:22  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> i forgot which way i was going so they went to the wrong bit
17:05:24  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> were they?
17:05:30  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> lol
17:05:42  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> they need to cross over again
17:06:05  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> funny part will be the merge behind the MSH
17:06:11  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> not much space
17:06:13  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> yes
17:06:53  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> hmm...
17:07:07  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> also what to do considering the jct between the tunnels and brisges
17:07:10  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> *bridges
17:07:48  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> i got an idea
17:07:58  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> oh
17:08:04  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> hmm
17:08:20  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> what do you want to do?
17:08:30  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> im trying to get the new line inbetween
17:09:04  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> you mean the line into the station?
17:09:08  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> yeah
17:09:36  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> as then it could juggle the middle line between the free bridges
17:10:06  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> thats no good idea, it could block easily
17:10:13  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> bit of prio
17:10:27  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> umm
17:10:42  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> like that?
17:11:04  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> so the bridges have priority over the middle
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17:11:28  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> does that seem right or have i made a stupid error?
17:11:31  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> *me is confused
17:12:13  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> erm... its complete nonsense
17:12:16  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> yay
17:12:28  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> because its no merge, but a split
17:12:38  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> no theyre merging
17:12:56  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> not yet...
17:13:11  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> oh
17:13:13  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> or merge after tunnels?
17:13:52  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> why are you giong noth->south? that line is already done
17:14:03  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> dom suggested we shoudl lol
17:14:09  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> oh
17:14:28  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> hmm lets analyze
17:14:38  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> wait hang on
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17:14:51  <GLAD0S> !password
17:14:51  <PublicServer> GLAD0S: floras
17:14:53  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> i might be soing something stupid
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17:15:16  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> hi
17:15:22  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> i mightve been right 1st time round
17:15:48  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> im confused now
17:16:06  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> which way and which bit is to be connected to the tunnels?
17:16:25  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> *facepalms massively*
17:16:28  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> the two that i placed?
17:16:34  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> thats the bypass
17:16:36  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> nonono the 4
17:16:38  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S>
17:16:48  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S>
17:16:51  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> uhh hi
17:16:57  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> hey glados
17:17:03  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> hi
17:17:29  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> you mean !these tunnels?
17:17:31  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> i think this is what he meant
17:17:42  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> the four under BBH 13
17:18:08  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> thats the connection from S to W
17:18:18  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> x
17:18:20  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> from there you'll go further north
17:18:22  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> oh i dont know anymore...
17:18:34  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> i check what he said
17:18:45  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> idea!
17:18:52  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> can i make a maglev line?
17:18:55  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> im checking the console
17:19:29  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> he said 'the lines on the tunnels needs a straight one going north'
17:19:39  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> *other sides of the tunnels
17:20:09  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> ok
17:20:48  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> hmm
17:21:18  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> m
17:21:20  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> bad
17:21:27  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> they need to be same lenth
17:21:33  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> no
17:21:56  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> like that
17:22:06  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> as they split and join, they dont need to be the same length
17:22:09  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> anyway
17:22:16  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> true, but looks nicer
17:22:33  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> should i ake one more?
17:22:39  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> o
17:22:39  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> no
17:22:41  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> line
17:22:44  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> kk
17:22:50  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> we dont need a 4th bridge
17:22:50  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> its just important that they are synced
17:22:58  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> awwait, maybe we do
17:23:21  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> there
17:23:28  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> ok
17:23:34  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> i dleete other useless stuff >_<
17:23:41  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> xx
17:24:04  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> fuck
17:24:07  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> wasnt me
17:24:09  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> wow
17:24:12  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> really?
17:24:15  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> what=?
17:24:17  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> i was clearing signs
17:24:23  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> then boom
17:24:33  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> where?
17:24:39  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> right next to preps sign
17:24:39  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> at preps for 3rd
17:24:43  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> was me accidentally
17:24:45  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> anything bad?
17:24:47  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> srry guy
17:24:50  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> oh
17:24:53  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> train crash
17:24:55  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> >_<
17:24:59  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> srry guys
17:25:09  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> lesson learned XD
17:25:12  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> i get blamed for this cuz im noob >_<
17:25:17  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> why?
17:25:17  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> did you delete signals?
17:25:39  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> i didnt do anything
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17:25:52  <GLAD0S> !password
17:25:52  <PublicServer> GLAD0S: swampy
17:25:58  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> leave that for now
17:26:26  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> back
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17:26:50  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> so what actually happened?
17:26:56  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> Glados: if you deletet signals, tell me
17:27:10  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> i dont think i deleted any signals
17:27:10  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> i made it ignore sign because it wasnt moving at a free space
17:27:26  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> still doing it
17:27:28  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> omg
17:27:30  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> when i said signs i meant the bits of writing :O
17:27:48  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> do you see?
17:27:54  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> yeah
17:28:01  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> i didnt think there was trains
17:28:03  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> train 828
17:28:21  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> this is odd
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17:28:25  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> train 828 is standing for a reason
17:28:39  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> i think its the signal on the junction
17:28:43  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> not the one its waiting at
17:28:45  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> the double
17:29:07  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> if you zoom right in (32 bpp level) i could sign it
17:29:50  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> fixed
17:29:57  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> was missing a presignal
17:30:07  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> ok
17:30:17  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> cu in some minutes
17:30:23  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> k
17:30:30  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> oh maybe not
17:31:32  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> ok now its fixed
17:32:02  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> phew panic over
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17:36:29  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> back
17:36:47  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> oh sorry went afk for a sec
17:37:09  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> dont be sorry, i was away longer :)
17:37:15  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> lol
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17:38:43  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> the entry to the goods unloading is jamming up :(
17:39:05  <PublicServer> <V453000> that is actually just waiting trains for that choice
17:39:12  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> oh
17:39:13  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> and hi again
17:39:18  <PublicServer> <V453000> just a result of such a long choice
17:39:18  <PublicServer> <V453000> hi
17:39:32  <PublicServer> <V453000> solvable with something like this
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17:39:36  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> oh ok so this is normal then
17:39:50  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> i think that merge needs a complete rebuild
17:40:02  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> possibly
17:40:04  <PublicServer> <V453000> it could use one but it isnt that terrible
17:40:11  <PublicServer> <V453000> small moves can solve this
17:40:21  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> theres still one track unconnected
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17:41:15  <PublicServer> <V453000> how about something like this
17:41:21  <PublicServer> <V453000> just giving the option to re-choose
17:41:22  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> hmm
17:41:27  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> doesnt seem to be helping
17:41:50  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> stick  a path signal there instead
17:41:53  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> what about merging the 4 tunnels beforehand?
17:42:21  <PublicServer> <V453000> what do you mean by that
17:43:24  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> the 3rd line from North tunnel under the MSH, which forces trains into the "choices"
17:44:48  <PublicServer> <V453000> ah right
17:45:07  <PublicServer> <V453000> well that is an option but generally if you can make the choices as close to the "finish" of the choices, the better
17:45:09  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> Tunnels 1-4 are one track
17:46:20  <Vinnie_> !password
17:46:20  <PublicServer> Vinnie_: slacks
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17:46:38  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> hello again
17:46:42  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> wb
17:46:53  <PublicServer> <V453000> hiy
17:47:43  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> erm... i am stupid...
17:48:30  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> we already have a 3rd north exit on bbh13
17:50:17  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> why was that obsolite?
17:50:47  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> because that wout be a 4th lane
17:51:02  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> we already have 3 between bbh13 and msh8
17:51:12  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> not complete
17:51:36  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> not through the bbh, true
17:52:07  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> A to B
17:52:10  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> that is 3rd
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17:54:14  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> so we need a route C->A
17:54:34  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> yeah
17:54:38  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> not from B to past MSH
17:54:40  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> then you got proper 3rd
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18:04:04  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> any reason for these !stations?
18:04:42  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> no
18:07:40  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> BBH03 is getting crappy
18:08:10  <PublicServer> <V453000> well LL output .. :)
18:08:33  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> i shouldnt be allowed to fix that
18:08:47  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> unless i got more beer
18:08:57  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> :D
18:12:42  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> you building?
18:13:30  <PublicServer> <V453000> im not sure if I would be actually able to build :d
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18:13:48  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> thats the perfect time to build
18:13:58  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> no wait second best time
18:14:05  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> best time is when your on toilet
18:14:52  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> best time to build shit?
18:15:04  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> no best ideas come on the toilet
18:15:10  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> thats true
18:15:16  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> so best time to build something good is when your on toilet
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18:23:26  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> looks hard
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18:24:45  <GLAD0S> !password
18:24:45  <PublicServer> GLAD0S: jetted
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18:25:06  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> back
18:25:52  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> diagonal bridges would be nice sometimes
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18:28:12  <PublicServer> <Jam35> yello
18:28:27  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> hey Jam
18:34:14  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> ok?
18:34:37  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> seems to work
18:44:16  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> great
18:44:22  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> ?
18:44:22  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> now the other side fails
18:44:35  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> west end?
18:44:40  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> ssi
18:44:54  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> already failed before :D
18:45:08  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> hubs are to close
18:45:14  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> expansion is hard
18:45:49  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> are you welcome on proserver?
18:46:03  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> not that i know
18:47:33  <V453000> how is the pz relevant in any way shape or form
18:47:45  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> change of game
18:48:11  <V453000> not exactly :)
18:48:15  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> back
18:48:33  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> is there a pz game running atm?
18:48:55  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> when do you restart the map?
18:49:09  <V453000> rcon kick GLAD0S
18:49:15  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> wth?
18:49:21  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> jokes
18:49:35  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> i dont think he is joking
18:49:41  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> ...
18:49:47  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> wth have i done?
18:49:53  <V453000> well obviously I was but you asked a wrong question :P
18:49:57  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> sum up, that question wasnt smart
18:50:03  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> i just want to build something
18:50:14  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> i mean can i help
18:50:21  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> anywhere
18:50:40  <V453000> dont ask about next game then and try now :p
18:50:42  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> me BBH08
18:50:48  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> ok
18:50:52  <V453000> for examle bottom part of the map has free farms
18:50:57  <V453000> connct them to the SLHs
18:51:23  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> ok
18:51:57  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> theres one free farm
18:52:05  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> wheres the slh
18:52:25  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> where is your farm
18:52:32  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> n
18:52:35  <PublicServer> <Jam35> I see 4 so far...
18:53:09  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> should i do the one near great sluningley
18:53:19  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> wait
18:53:35  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> that one seems better
18:53:57  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> but harder to connect
18:53:58  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> ok...
18:54:05  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> if you take teham farm you cann connect easily to the sideline
18:54:07  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> should i use the other one but terraforM
18:54:09  <PublicServer> <V453000> I will mark them with farmX
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18:54:24  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> kk
18:54:26  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> ok
18:54:44  <PublicServer> <V453000> farm1-4
18:54:47  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> how big does the train have to be?
18:54:50  <PublicServer> <V453000> try those first
18:55:08  <PublicServer> <V453000> what?
18:55:16  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> trains have to be length 3
18:55:22  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> ok
18:55:24  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> with Asia star
18:55:26  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> cheers
18:55:36  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> so should i make a riro station for it?
18:56:26  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> which farm did you choose
18:56:28  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> 1
18:56:58  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> better turn the station and make no roro
18:57:04  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> ok
18:57:18  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> would be too hard to connect properly like that
18:57:36  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> yeah
18:57:42  <PublicServer> <Jam35> and make separate grain/livestock stations...
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18:58:00  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> ok
18:58:52  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> it would be easier to make a riro 2 riro stations...
18:59:04  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> do as you want
18:59:14  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> ok
18:59:48  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> Roll in Roll out?
19:05:38  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> who wants to play with BBH04
19:05:44  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> busy
19:06:35  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> BBH04? i am not that mad xD
19:06:45  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> scared?
19:06:47  <PublicServer> <Jam35> :D
19:06:53  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> he can only kill us once
19:07:09  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> I still have plans for the rest of my life, so... yes i am
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19:07:29  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> yeah you live next to him, he might find you first
19:08:00  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> good that i moved to cologne
19:08:10  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> on the route to me
19:08:10  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> i just spend my holidays near V
19:08:22  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> ???
19:08:32  <PublicServer> <V453000> AND HE SURVIVED
19:08:40  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> shit he is awake
19:08:46  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> someone give him more beer
19:08:53  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> glados pls dont terraform the whole place
19:09:00  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> srry
19:09:03  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> ok
19:09:13  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> im not sure how to go about it
19:09:26  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> can i sho wyou?
19:09:34  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> ok
19:09:36  <PublicServer> <V453000> BBH 04 seems ~fine btw :)
19:09:38  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> ive done one
19:09:45  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> theres little space
19:09:47  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> i think it needs 4 exits to West
19:09:54  <PublicServer> <V453000> it will
19:09:56  <PublicServer> <V453000> doesnt yet
19:10:06  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> ok
19:10:08  <PublicServer> <V453000> it doesnt jam the input
19:10:14  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> like a boss XD
19:10:28  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> then i can't find anymore bottlenecks
19:10:34  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> wait
19:11:04  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> why?
19:11:11  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> because the turn is too tight
19:11:36  <Tray> !password
19:11:36  <PublicServer> Tray: astute
19:11:39  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> but it may as not have two bridges
19:11:54  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> like that
19:12:16  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> like that?
19:12:30  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> is that better
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19:12:47  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> would be okayy too but its better to keep the doubled track short
19:12:50  <PublicServer> <Tray> wher's the time when @@slowstart had any meaning to newcomers?
19:12:50  <Webster> Read everything on the wiki, and I mean everything
19:13:02  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> yeah i know
19:13:08  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> wait...
19:13:42  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> is that better
19:13:46  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> LOL
19:14:00  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> well, no
19:14:02  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> ...
19:14:08  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> ok
19:14:18  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> wait
19:14:20  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> and the pbs is useless in this case
19:14:31  <PublicServer> <Tray> vehicle cap ):
19:14:38  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> its a primary
19:14:48  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> thats even worse
19:14:48  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> does that work
19:14:50  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> no need for sync, doublebridge
19:15:20  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> does that work?
19:15:47  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> in fact yes, but no advantages to the first layout
19:16:13  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> and the curve behind the bridge is now too tight
19:16:19  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> except the first layou
19:16:21  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> ok
19:16:40  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> this is lake snake with dynamite
19:16:55  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> ???
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19:17:02  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> wth?
19:17:11  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> theres more than one lake spanke
19:17:33  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> whoo server lag
19:17:39  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> LOL
19:17:43  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> not for me
19:18:02  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> stop
19:18:04  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> you lose
19:18:07  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> you killed his track
19:18:30  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> does that work?
19:18:36  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> nope
19:18:38  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> thats kind of double
19:18:49  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> ok
19:19:19  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> there
19:19:22  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> same
19:22:07  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> afk
19:22:30  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> <<-- not now
19:23:10  <PublicServer> <Tray> BBH 02 is not runnign smooth
19:23:21  <PublicServer> <Tray> we should fix that first
19:24:05  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> missing prio's
19:25:03  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> and unbalanced merge
19:27:56  <PublicServer> <Tray> maybe we should merge 02 and 12 because I think that would be easier than put a 4th in between
19:28:32  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> there
19:28:38  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> can i make a train for my line?
19:28:54  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> GLAD0S: we hit trainlimit
19:29:00  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> we need to ask admin
19:29:14  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> ok
19:29:28  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> so 1,333 is limit
19:29:39  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> for now
19:30:01  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> ok
19:30:12  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> merging 2 and 12 is a big job
19:30:18  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> ???
19:30:24  <PublicServer> <V453000> Vinnie is a compelte bitch dont believe him
19:30:31  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> its true
19:30:37  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> dont believe me
19:30:47  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> so hase someone done farm 2?
19:30:51  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> i mean 3
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19:32:02  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> so the main line can handle 1,333, but understandeably, no one want to try it out yet with out admin permission
19:32:17  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> \
19:32:19  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> to try out putiing more on
19:32:34  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> i can say a good anser to that
19:32:40  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> but you wont believe me
19:32:43  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> what?
19:33:09  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> TELL MEH
19:33:25  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> admins can only raise trainlimit
19:33:31  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> no admins here
19:33:34  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> ok so only admins
19:33:36  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> last one just left
19:33:38  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> shame
19:33:48  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> so ill help with bottlenecks and stuff
19:33:51  <planetmaker> !rcon max_trains
19:33:51  <PublicServer> planetmaker: ERROR: command not found
19:33:57  <planetmaker> !rcon set max_trains
19:33:57  <PublicServer> planetmaker: Current value for 'max_trains' is: '1555' (min: 0, max: 5000)
19:34:02  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> it makes sense how only admins can raise train limits
19:34:06  <planetmaker> !rcon companies
19:34:06  <PublicServer> planetmaker: #:1(Orange) Company Name: 'Gatston Transport'  Year Founded: 2100  Money: 7886944132  Loan: 0  Value: 7889974381  (T:1333, R:2, P:0, S:0) unprotected
19:34:12  <planetmaker> eh?
19:34:19  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> is there anywhere that needs help?
19:35:26  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> i just going to follow a particular train
19:35:56  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> it would be near impossible to upgrade this whole line
19:36:07  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> to maglev without mods
19:36:17  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> can anyone contact an admin?
19:36:35  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> did you see the white name pass by?
19:36:38  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> about 2 min ago
19:36:44  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> he left
19:36:54  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> no he is on irc
19:36:56  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> ask him
19:36:58  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> really?
19:37:01  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> ill contact
19:37:23  <GLAD0S> can an admin raise the amount of trains on the line?
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19:38:10  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> he isnt on irc
19:38:23  <planetmaker> really... the train limit is (much) higher than the train count
19:38:28  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> really?
19:38:30  <planetmaker> I've no clue what you're talking about
19:38:40  <V453000> lol
19:38:41  <planetmaker> and that's the case all the time you "discuss" it
19:38:50  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> they said that we cant use any more trains
19:39:12  <V453000> I am pretty sure I didnt say any of that
19:39:20  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> they did...
19:39:24  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> so can i?
19:39:26  <planetmaker> "they"?
19:39:42  <planetmaker> usually it's only one person saying a particular thing ;-)
19:39:42  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> the other people on server
19:40:08  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> so can i make another train?
19:40:09  <planetmaker> well. At this train count as we have now it usually makes sense a lot to first tend all the weak spots in the network than just adding more trains
19:40:20  <planetmaker> GLAD0S, did you even try to build a train?
19:40:26  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> no not  yet
19:40:40  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> not yet on this server
19:40:46  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> GLAD0S: ask it like this. Planetmaker, we hit the trainlimit of 1333 trains, could it be raised, please"
19:40:58  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> ...
19:41:01  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> im confused
19:41:07  <planetmaker> Vinnie_, but all the time since this discussion started, it's 1555!
19:41:15  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> u say the trainlimits much (much) higher
19:41:17  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> bäck
19:41:27  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> ok thanks
19:41:29  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> then why is he asking?
19:41:45  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> because i wasnt sure
19:41:47  <planetmaker> does no-one here see IRC? You should then all have seen me query the train count?
19:41:51  <V453000> I thought I was the only person drunk in this area yet only me and pm seem to know whats up
19:41:51  <planetmaker> !rcon set max_trains
19:41:51  <PublicServer> planetmaker: Current value for 'max_trains' is: '1555' (min: 0, max: 5000)
19:41:58  <planetmaker> ^^  Anyone should have seen that line
19:42:10  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> thats in another window
19:42:13  <planetmaker> ?
19:42:40  <Vinnie_> I dont have two screens with one for openttd and one for IRC
19:42:55  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> LOL
19:43:04  <planetmaker> it's convenient, Vinnie_ ;-)
19:43:05  <V453000> well if you ask for something it is good to look in the irc :)
19:43:07  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> second screen is for porn anyway :p
19:43:39  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> w
19:44:01  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> i wanna say something now strumi but i get kicked for that
19:44:36  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> do i take the grain to tardstone factory?
19:44:50  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> copy train from trainyard
19:44:56  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> ok
19:45:18  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> ok
19:45:41  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> whats the difference between a normal order and a nonstop order
19:46:04  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> non stop means, doesnt stop on other stations
19:46:10  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> better if a train gets lost
19:49:10  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> can i make a train group called GLAD0S trains?
19:49:44  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> anyone
19:50:10  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> guys
19:50:24  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> TELL MEH
19:50:43  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> or do i class it as Goods_Grain or Grain
19:51:13  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> oh... ill class it as GLAD0S Grain
19:53:16  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> is anyone on?
19:53:18  <PublicServer> <Tray> yes
19:53:24  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> can you answer me then?
19:53:31  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> i dont know what to do
19:53:45  <PublicServer> <Tray> why do you want that different trains group?
19:54:03  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> so i can put the right amount of trains to optimize
19:54:55  <PublicServer> <Tray> You can easily access the trains belonging to a particular station by clicking on the trains symbol in the stationswindow
19:55:03  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> really?
19:55:17  <PublicServer> <Tray> yes
19:55:29  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> ok cheers
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19:56:59  <GLAD0S> !password
19:57:00  <PublicServer> GLAD0S: amoral
19:57:20  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> back
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19:58:57  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> it only shows the farm
19:59:12  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> it doesnt show the trains working on it
19:59:27  <PublicServer> <Tray> it shows all trains that have an order to visit the farm
19:59:29  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> i mean the trains which have it in its order
19:59:39  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> doesnt for me...
19:59:54  <PublicServer> <Tray> are you sure?
19:59:58  <PublicServer> <Jam35> click the station, then click the train button
20:00:08  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> no
20:00:14  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> i have two on it
20:00:24  <PublicServer> <Tray> for example, what happens if you click on the trains button of a main stations?
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20:00:39  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> shows me the stations
20:00:41  <PublicServer> <Tray> it shows a number > than 100 for me
20:00:56  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> ???
20:01:10  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> ...
20:01:12  <PublicServer> <Tray> click on a station -> in the buttom line is next to 'Rename' a little train icon
20:01:15  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> are u on windows
20:01:33  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> OH
20:01:36  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> i was using the menu
20:01:46  <PublicServer> <Tray> found it?
20:01:48  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> yeah
20:01:50  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> it works
20:01:56  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> but i thought it was on the menu
20:02:01  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> cheers
20:02:05  <PublicServer> <Jam35> TFFT
20:02:08  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> im going to follow my train
20:02:22  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> do u know how to make it so the view is locked  on the train?
20:02:26  <PublicServer> *** Jam35 has left the game (leaving)
20:03:14  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> thanks
20:03:16  *** Jam35 has left #openttdcoop
20:03:20  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> ill work on other farms now!
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20:04:26  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> best free game EVAR
20:04:56  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> what does slh stand for?
20:05:20  <KenjiE20> @slh
20:05:20  <Webster> slh: Sideline Hub, see also:
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20:08:10  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> guys look at /GLADOS FARM 1 do you think the connection to the main line is ok
20:09:00  <PublicServer> <Tray> like this
20:12:53  <PublicServer> <Tray> my BBH 02 work looks much more wierd than I expected
20:14:21  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> wtf?
20:14:25  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> at beer pickup
20:14:57  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> do you see
20:15:03  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> there ok
20:15:09  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> fixed
20:15:09  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> WTF
20:15:16  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> and made a train crash
20:15:18  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> mate
20:15:26  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> so in 5 min jam is gone
20:15:28  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> u fixed it and killed two trains
20:15:34  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> trains are replacable :p
20:15:36  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> LOL
20:15:41  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> true
20:15:52  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> but i dont get how that happened
20:16:02  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> did you make it ignore the signal?
20:16:02  <PublicServer> <Tray> on this server some things differ a lot from the normal gameplay
20:16:06  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> yeah
20:16:08  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> i know
20:16:22  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> turn it arround
20:16:32  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> ok
20:16:38  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> but how did the train crash then?
20:16:49  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> train is stuborn
20:16:59  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> thinks track is clear
20:17:25  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> i am not sure but are these trains supposed to enter the station from north end?
20:17:47  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> both sides
20:17:49  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> i think it was both
20:17:55  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> depends on the set of platforms
20:17:57  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> which is strange
20:17:58  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> ok
20:18:03  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> and hard to deal with
20:18:19  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> guys look at /GLAD0S farm 2
20:18:21  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> follow overflow track
20:18:29  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> do u think it works ok?
20:18:35  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> ok if i see right, thats the entry for overflowed trains
20:18:58  <PublicServer> <Tray> I had one rule from the beginning of my time on openttdcoop: don't try to understand V's station if you did not watch him build it.
20:19:08  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> weird/advanced station design
20:19:26  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> well i watched him... doesnt help much :p
20:19:29  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> but usually efficient
20:19:43  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> but make no sense to the naked eye
20:20:21  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> there are exactly two options: try to understand it or shut off brain
20:20:29  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> i choose shut off brain
20:20:39  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> because it looks messed up
20:21:18  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> huge efficient stations usually look messed up until you understand them
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20:21:54  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> DAMN
20:22:01  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> there
20:22:31  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> ?
20:22:41  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> something with my trains that i made
20:22:43  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> fixed
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20:23:17  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> I have spinny chair XD
20:24:12  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> that also occasinally happens
20:24:24  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> ???
20:24:36  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> its in the station design
20:24:58  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> woot? another crash?
20:25:00  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> this game has the best pathfinder ever in the history of the world
20:25:12  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> automatic crash
20:25:19  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> ???
20:25:21  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> :O
20:25:23  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> no human interatcion involved
20:25:31  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> where
20:25:46  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> PBS vs Block Signals?
20:25:52  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> yes
20:26:10  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> shouldnt the path be reserved?
20:26:36  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> they can both get a green in the same time
20:26:46  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> nice feature
20:27:17  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> and one reversed PBS to seperate the signalblocks but not capable of stopping trains
20:28:43  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> it happened again...
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20:29:06  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> wyeah
20:29:09  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> where?
20:29:21  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> place a sign saying !here
20:29:55  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> its kinda self-fixing
20:30:01  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> i did that
20:30:03  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> but it crashes
20:30:17  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> not every time
20:30:27  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> can i see though
20:30:43  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> where at?
20:30:53  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> beer pickup
20:30:55  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> still at beer pickup
20:31:05  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> but do they crash
20:31:11  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> build alot of trains there for goods and it will auto crash
20:31:19  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> thats bad
20:31:33  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> i consider it a work of art
20:31:33  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> we need to make it work without crashing
20:31:39  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> exploding?
20:31:46  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> i just saw a blockade which solved itself tho
20:31:52  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> overflow with automatic removal
20:31:55  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> ok
20:31:57  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> lol
20:32:07  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> this whole tracks pretty much self solving
20:32:09  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> and V managed to build an automatic train killer
20:32:12  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> cant be by anybody else than V
20:32:19  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> LOL
20:32:21  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> true
20:32:33  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> if ur listening on irc V...
20:35:03  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> what does puting nonstop on the order change?
20:35:26  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> if a train travels a wrong route, it wont stop at wrong stations
20:35:40  <PublicServer> <Tray> if a trains happen to travvel through another station, it ignores that station
20:35:55  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> ok thats useful
20:36:00  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> i might make that defauly
20:36:02  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> t
20:36:05  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> *defauly
20:36:11  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> *default
20:36:17  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> spelling fail
20:36:23  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> and when part of this network is rebuilt, a lot of trains end up in wrong ways
20:38:57  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> later ppl
20:39:03  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> cu
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20:39:07  <PublicServer> <Maraxus> cu
20:39:23  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> bye
20:40:17  <PublicServer> <Tray> I think the network can now handle more trains
20:40:32  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> limit is about 1500
20:40:46  <PublicServer> <Tray> oh - already raised o:
20:41:00  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> yea planetmaker did it silently
20:41:58  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> ok, some more trains for the oilgoods
20:42:21  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> cool
20:42:57  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> i
20:43:44  <planetmaker> sturmi, I actually did NOT rise it. It was already that high before I checked
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20:43:58  <planetmaker> or at least when I checked
20:44:08  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> when was that?
20:44:10  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> ok, i thought you did
20:44:20  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> i should learn to read :D
20:45:06  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> hey who changed my oil pipes to rails?
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20:45:16  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> ???
20:45:19  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> where?
20:45:31  <Jacko> hi again
20:45:35  <planetmaker> granted. I could nearly have said the same when applying irony ;-) But... :-P
20:45:39  <Jacko> !password
20:45:39  <PublicServer> Jacko: fussed
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20:45:57  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> im back ppl
20:46:08  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> cool
20:46:23  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> it would be cool if xyrus was on
20:46:34  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> meh one of the oil rigs died :(
20:46:36  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> maybe
20:46:42  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> we have 8 billion
20:46:48  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> cant we get more anyway
20:46:48  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> near great slunford
20:46:48  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> lol
20:47:06  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> we own the world!
20:47:16  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> jacko: money is irrelevant in this game
20:47:16  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> haha
20:47:19  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> i know
20:47:21  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> god, imagine how many hobo's there are!
20:47:31  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> with one thousand and something trains
20:47:50  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> the world would be run by hobos
20:47:57  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> haha
20:48:38  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> WHY U ALTER MY TRACK
20:48:45  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> so anything thats needs sorting thats not important enough for anyone but me to do?
20:48:47  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> ...
20:48:57  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> why?
20:49:07  <PublicServer> <Maraxus> because you connected it to the mainline instead of the sideline hub
20:49:27  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> is that bad?
20:49:33  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> yes
20:49:35  <PublicServer> <Maraxus> very
20:49:41  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> why?
20:49:44  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> where is this?
20:49:47  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> almost worst thing you can do
20:49:59  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> why?
20:50:14  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> becuase it can jam the mainline?
20:50:21  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> Mainlines are like a highway
20:50:27  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> because they arent up to speed?
20:51:03  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> so i
20:51:17  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> ok so it goes to the sorting bit
20:51:52  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> i guess the other lines fine like that because it comes off the centrall line
20:52:10  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> that doesnt make sense?
20:52:14  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> no it does
20:52:21  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> enlighten me
20:52:23  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> i just didnt realise that at first
20:52:45  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> oh right not connecting to mainline i uderstand that
20:53:19  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> God i think my voice is crackiing
20:53:26  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> my throat is all rough
20:53:28  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> what with a keyboard?
20:53:39  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> ??????
20:53:41  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> no seriously though
20:53:52  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> wth?
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20:53:58  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> what
20:54:01  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> hmm, could i connect a primary to coal drop MSH?
20:54:15  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> depends what primary it is
20:54:20  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> Oil
20:54:22  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> and probably not no
20:54:32  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> wth
20:54:38  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> WHAT R U DOING
20:54:44  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> me? nothing
20:54:50  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> Well, next sideline is not much further away
20:54:58  <PublicServer> <Maraxus> turn off caps lock please
20:55:00  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> the person building up to to my line]
20:55:14  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> so your going to go through my stations?
20:55:34  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> what r u doing!
20:55:40  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> EXACTLY
20:55:42  <PublicServer> <Maraxus> I'm connecting your station the right way - from the sideline hub instead of the mainline
20:55:48  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> ...
20:55:59  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> but its connected to the sideline hub
20:56:09  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> which staion?
20:56:12  <PublicServer> <Maraxus> see !here
20:56:14  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> it comes of the mainline!
20:56:24  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> whats wrong with that?
20:56:26  <PublicServer> <Jacko.>  sure why
20:56:29  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> *not sure why
20:56:39  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> it really shouldnt be there
20:56:41  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> holy crud
20:56:43  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> it doesnt cause traffic jams
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20:56:51  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> ha
20:56:53  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> hi
20:56:56  <PublicServer> <Jam35> hi ag
20:56:58  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> it will do when there are many trains waiting
20:57:04  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> hi jam
20:57:12  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> at !here it doesnt matter
20:57:23  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> it does, no matter where
20:57:25  <PublicServer> <Maraxus> and when the station has 50 trains?
20:57:28  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> it probably does
20:57:30  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> general building rules
20:57:36  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> really?
20:57:44  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> that something cant come off a mainline?
20:57:46  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> yes
20:57:53  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> it wouldnt bee too hard to simply walk it through to the right place
20:57:55  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> does it?
20:58:29  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> fine
20:58:33  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> srry i didnt know
20:58:35  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> it would literally take about 30 seconds
20:58:47  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> oh its already done lol
20:58:57  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> there
20:59:00  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> done
20:59:08  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> srry i didn't know
21:00:15  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> at least it gives more money
21:00:25  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> how?
21:00:39  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> because it goes further to the livestock drop off point
21:00:41  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> and also why do we care about that?
21:00:47  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> dunno
21:00:52  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> no it travels round empty to load up again
21:00:57  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> i was just pointing out
21:01:12  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> true
21:01:18  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> lol brain fail
21:01:21  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> ohwell
21:01:23  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> XD
21:01:25  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> oops
21:01:33  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> been looking at too many junctions?
21:01:36  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> :D
21:01:43  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> ???
21:01:52  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> was a joke
21:02:00  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> yeah
21:02:10  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> too many juctions? is that possible :P
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21:02:20  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> seriously first time i looked at some of these my head went mental
21:02:28  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> not for me
21:02:38  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> i just kind of ignore them
21:02:40  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> lol
21:02:51  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> though my brain does throb a bit
21:02:51  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> XD
21:02:56  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> exactly
21:03:03  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> just looking at them
21:03:17  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> hi
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21:03:21  <PublicServer> <Maraxus> hi
21:03:25  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> however the concept of building these is quite simple
21:03:34  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> hi
21:03:35  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> heya
21:03:35  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> yeah
21:03:35  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> its just time consuming :D
21:03:38  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> i
21:04:08  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> what line do coal trains go on?
21:04:15  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> i have no idea
21:04:17  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> slh
21:04:19  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> i think
21:04:33  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> just stick them on somewhere and they should eventually end up in the right place
21:04:35  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> are slh and the other one connected?
21:04:38  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> they all are
21:04:44  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> bbh and slh
21:04:54  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> everthing is connected together
21:04:57  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> ok
21:05:03  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> thats the beauty of this design
21:05:09  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> what does bbh and slh stand for?
21:05:11  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> yeah
21:05:13  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> everything interlocks and works together
21:05:21  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> anyone can get anywhere
21:05:27  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> back-bone hub and umm
21:05:30  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> hhmm
21:05:36  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> yea and sometimes it really inter LOCKS
21:05:38  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> Sideline hub
21:05:44  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> ok
21:05:45  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> hehe
21:05:54  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> MSH is main station hub
21:07:02  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> im gonna go ahead and paste my name on something i helped with
21:07:12  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> cuz everyone else has done it
21:07:16  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> if you unfocus your eyes it looks like birds
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21:07:29  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> to me sometimes...
21:07:31  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> reminds me of blood vessels
21:07:37  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> yeah
21:07:47  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> i find it quite pretty
21:07:55  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> the straight bits
21:08:15  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> with all the trains
21:08:17  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> if you zoom out over BBH 4 to the right zoom it looks really cool
21:08:32  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> well it works for most it just seems best here
21:08:34  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> yeah
21:08:36  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> like snakes
21:08:46  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> yeah
21:08:53  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> good times XD
21:08:57  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> hehe
21:09:11  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> are you alloud to use other things rather than trains?
21:09:17  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> if i look too close at BBH04 i see jams
21:09:17  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> i assume not
21:09:33  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> i think thats the priority working at full capacty :/
21:09:51  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> a few
21:09:57  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> xxx
21:10:05  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> yep. trains rom south have a hard time turning left
21:10:11  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> lol
21:10:17  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> i think thats deliberate
21:10:23  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> ...
21:10:23  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> but i am not mad enough to mess with this hub
21:10:26  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> lol
21:10:33  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> why would that be
21:10:47  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> what do you mean?
21:10:49  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> if someone tried, couldnt they make all of these places really small?
21:10:59  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> the towns?
21:11:07  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> no the bbh and llh a the others
21:11:10  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> slh
21:11:16  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> bbl
21:11:18  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> i dont really think so
21:11:27  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> make them smaller? are you kidding?
21:11:31  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> i mean make them for a smaller capacity
21:11:34  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> space is quite premium in those junctions
21:11:48  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> for a smaller capacity
21:11:52  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> why would you make something for a smaller capacity?
21:11:58  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> most of them were smaller
21:12:04  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> budget version of a BBH
21:12:04  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> if your line wasnt as big
21:12:10  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> yeah
21:12:16  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> budget version
21:12:31  <PublicServer> <Jacko.>  think that would go down well with everyone else :D
21:12:36  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> *don't
21:12:38  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> LOL
21:12:44  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> yeah
21:12:59  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> can anyone tell me where to build?
21:13:03  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> look at bbh02
21:13:03  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> in some aspects it could be bigger
21:13:09  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> it was built quite compact
21:13:13  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> yeah
21:13:23  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> but now its a pain in the ass to expand it
21:13:33  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> though the edges could be a bit smaller
21:13:55  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> you could make loads of roundabouts inside each other
21:14:05  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> roundabouts are crap
21:14:11  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> wiuldnt that be hopelessly inefficient?
21:14:17  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> depends
21:14:21  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> they jam like nothing else
21:16:49  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> if you made on that didnt jam  so badly
21:16:56  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> or if it was for a smaller line
21:17:06  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> well there are 1000+ trains it needs to process
21:17:16  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> then it would fail scarily
21:17:30  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> and f**k up the whole line
21:17:37  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> tbh if something could process 500 trains this well I'd have to be pretty good
21:17:47  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> roundabouts are broken by design, as they merge before split
21:18:21  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> anyone need help?
21:18:40  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> im unsure on what to do
21:18:50  <PublicServer> <Maraxus> gn
21:19:00  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> gn?
21:19:07  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> ???
21:19:10  <PublicServer> <Maraxus> goodnight
21:19:12  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> gn
21:19:14  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> oh
21:19:16  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> cya
21:19:18  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> night
21:19:24  <PublicServer> *** Maraxus has left the game (leaving)
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21:19:32  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> holy watafak... 2295 tons per month
21:19:39  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> gn maraxus
21:19:41  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> where?
21:19:51  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> planingead iron ore mine
21:19:57  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> how do u join pro zone?
21:20:07  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> wow
21:20:10  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> by being pro duh
21:20:20  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> by proving yourself as a very good builder
21:20:23  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> ok
21:20:25  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> lol
21:20:31  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> and if you do it alot
21:20:35  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> are there competitions?
21:20:42  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> probably
21:20:54  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> dunno
21:21:08  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> only big ones
21:21:12  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> i am not really experienced with coop
21:21:30  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> you're more experienced than me ;)
21:21:33  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> i like the coal drop design
21:21:43  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> nice and simple but efficient
21:21:49  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> if he made more out lines
21:21:51  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> but afaik its more about what can be done
21:21:52  <Jacko> thats kinda the idea
21:22:11  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> so not competition, but cooperation
21:22:47  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> coal drop is just small :D
21:22:50  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> is there anywhere that needs help
21:22:56  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> but you could make it massive
21:23:10  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> if needed...
21:23:24  <Sylf> this isnt massive enough for you?
21:23:26  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> just look at grain drop
21:23:48  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> featuring automatic train killer
21:23:48  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> sylf: coal drop isnt really massive :D
21:24:04  <Sylf> it can handle the volume
21:24:10  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> lol the automatic train killer
21:24:21  <Sylf> that's really the key
21:24:22  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> who called it that?
21:24:33  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> but it is
21:24:36  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> that was me and vinnie
21:24:42  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> hehe nice
21:24:45  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> i made the signs tho
21:25:03  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> i made the kids, dont try this at home
21:25:11  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> hehe
21:25:13  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> but someone else made the or anywhere else thing
21:25:21  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> that was me again :p
21:25:28  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> :D
21:25:30  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> the overflow tracks a fail
21:25:44  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> what?
21:25:46  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> they work perfectly
21:25:53  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> its the train killer
21:26:11  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> yea sometimes, but thats a bug in the signalling
21:26:11  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> its so compact, trains dont brake fast enough
21:26:25  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> sure?
21:26:25  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> nothing to do with braking
21:26:36  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> thats why theres nothing going over the overflow rails
21:26:40  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> as far as i remember OTTD allows instant braking for when a signal suddenly goes red
21:26:43  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> sometimes two trains get a green for the same track
21:26:57  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> but not now
21:27:05  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> it doesnt
21:27:07  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> t
21:27:09  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> happens when PBS and normal signals are mixed
21:27:20  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> whats pbs
21:27:26  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> ...
21:27:32  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> :rolles eyes:
21:27:34  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> i just dont know that term
21:27:36  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> there is no train on the top entry, so nothing can happen
21:27:42  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> path based signalling
21:27:48  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> ok
21:27:50  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> PBS are the automatic signals
21:27:58  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> very funky tools
21:28:05  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> like the entry and exit signals?
21:28:08  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> nope
21:28:18  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> the combo ones?
21:28:20  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> no, these are block signals
21:28:26  <Sylf> so you built a system that crashes trains?  and send the nearby station ratings to 0%?
21:28:28  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> let me show you
21:28:50  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> Sylf: guess who has invented teh automatic train killer :p
21:28:54  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> V did
21:28:56  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> was it me?
21:29:18  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> it was b
21:29:48  <Sylf> BAH
21:30:02  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> it was supercalifragalisticexpialadocious guy
21:30:16  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> XD
21:30:16  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> i frigging typed that!
21:30:23  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> you are mad
21:30:27  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> lol
21:30:33  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> could someone get me a spellcheck on that
21:30:33  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> or just V
21:30:35  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> 43000
21:30:43  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> something something something...
21:30:49  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> could someone put that into google translate?
21:30:56  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> just call him V as theres a few random numbers after lol
21:31:07  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> ohh its V453000
21:31:21  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> v453000
21:31:21  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> sometimes 543000 too :p
21:31:36  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> WHAT TO BUILD!
21:31:56  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> i wish there was diagonal bridges
21:32:12  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> what to build TELL ME GUYS
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21:33:39  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> just you and you and you and me
21:34:39  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> MOAR TRAINS!
21:34:47  <Jacko> why??
21:34:51  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> what do you do with iron?
21:34:56  <Jacko> >_<
21:36:13  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> where does ir onre go?
21:36:25  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> to iron ore drop
21:36:25  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> oh right
21:36:40  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> well g2g it getting late and im tired now :/
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21:36:47  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> cu
21:36:51  <PublicServer> <Jacko.> cya
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21:39:15  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> who here watches doctor who?
21:39:51  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> not me
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21:48:46  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> why so complicated?
21:50:08  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> so?
21:50:11  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> it looks good
21:50:17  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> lol
21:50:20  <Sylf> -_-
21:50:21  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> not really
21:50:27  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> ...
21:50:30  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> pls???
21:50:48  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> it might one day
21:50:52  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> for something
21:51:18  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> can you place industries?
21:51:25  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> why should I
21:51:29  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> can i?
21:51:45  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> am i aloud
21:51:46  <Sylf> you can prospect primaries
21:51:54  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> ???
21:52:05  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> can you build
21:52:10  <Sylf> but there's no point in doing so now
21:52:11  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> producers?
21:52:17  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> prospect=tell teh game to place a primary somwhere
21:52:31  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> can i place a producer?
21:52:31  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> yea there are enough promaries
21:52:41  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> sylf
21:52:53  <Sylf> are
21:52:55  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> what do you mean by producer
21:53:03  <Sylf> has the train limit reached?
21:53:07  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> like a farm
21:53:16  <Sylf> if yes, don't bother
21:53:17  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> or well or forest
21:53:17  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> you cant place them
21:53:23  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> aww
21:53:29  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> you can only prospect them
21:53:45  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> and teh train limit isnt reached
21:54:18  <Sylf> the game is more at the point of making improvements, not building new stations
21:54:39  <Sylf> so don't build industries
21:54:43  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> ok
21:54:45  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> got it
21:54:45  <Sylf> or prospect one
21:54:59  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> there are enough unconnected primaries
21:55:01  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> you cant prospect
21:56:03  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> bye guys
21:56:09  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> cya
21:56:20  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> do u think the world will have restarted by tommorrow?
21:56:26  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> nope
21:56:28  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> ok
21:56:30  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> good
21:56:32  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> bye
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21:56:52  <GLAD0S> bye
21:56:54  <GLAD0S> XD
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22:16:34  <V453000> !password
22:16:34  <PublicServer> V453000: timber
22:17:04  <PublicServer> <V453000> hy
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22:17:12  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> hey
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22:17:53  <PublicServer> <V453000> im wondering ifthe "automatic killer" note on grain goods pickup is still relevant
22:18:27  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> well it killed trains
22:18:37  <PublicServer> <V453000> alright
22:18:47  <PublicServer> <V453000> well it is possible with the stupidity of PBS
22:18:49  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> a new level of overflow tactics :p
22:18:55  <PublicServer> <V453000> :D kill trains
22:18:57  <PublicServer> <V453000> ultimate overlow
22:19:03  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> if there are too many, kill them
22:19:25  <PublicServer> <V453000> well if one train dies per 10 years, who cares :)
22:19:39  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> only the station rating
22:19:49  <PublicServer> <V453000> thats true
22:20:07  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> and the train drivers, but who cares about them :D
22:20:26  <PublicServer> <V453000> people again do not give a shit about goods
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22:20:39  <PublicServer> <V453000> all of our goods pickups have overflows
22:20:45  <PublicServer> <V453000> yet all of them have a lot of cargo waiting
22:20:52  <PublicServer> <V453000> unacceptable :(
22:22:07  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> are you drunk enough for BBH04`?
22:22:30  <PublicServer> <V453000> dont think I want to do that now
22:29:28  <PublicServer> <Tray> wood & grain drop needs a third line
22:53:44  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> nice notes
22:54:32  <PublicServer> <Sylf> I had to get it out of my system
22:54:47  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> oh you were that... i thought V
22:55:09  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> you think glados will understand them?
22:55:29  <PublicServer> <Sylf> He needs to.
22:56:56  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> if he even comes back, as we wont start a new game tomorrow
23:03:48  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> fuuu
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