Log for #openttdcoop.devzone on 3rd January 2010:
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00:09:03  <Ammler> Rubidium: multiple games per clima?
00:09:10  <Ammler> pm has one already ;-)
00:09:42  <planetmaker> I'd be biased indeed ;-)
00:10:06  <planetmaker> though it needs tweaking in order to get a few more things shown
00:12:06  <planetmaker> any ideas for how that selection is supposed to go? Have people submit and then a small "committee" choses?
00:12:06  <Ammler> petert could manage that ;-)
00:12:12  <planetmaker> :-P
00:13:45  <Ammler> like a osqc
00:13:50  <Rubidium> no idea how the selection/voting should go
00:14:28  <planetmaker> well, yes osqc is what I had in mind. Was a real pain to judge ;-)
00:15:28  <planetmaker> osqc was like everyone could register and submit and 3(?) people had a look and awareded points in several categories
00:16:35  <planetmaker> Like "good builder", "low terraform", "met the goals (=pax transported and certain cargo routes implied by the scenario - unimportant here), "aesthetics", "efficiency"...
00:16:54  <planetmaker> I guess "aesthetics" and "good builder" would be the only criteria left
00:17:00  <Ammler> well, I meant the system, not the criterias
00:17:04  <planetmaker> yeha
00:17:13  <planetmaker> Osai had a nice submission system for it.
00:17:24  <Ammler> !s/had/has/
00:17:25  <planetmaker> with web interface and stuff
00:17:33  <planetmaker> well...
00:17:49  <Ammler> but we never used it.
00:17:57  <Ammler> just for registering
00:20:23  <Rubidium> so something to think about while sleeping :)
00:20:31  <planetmaker> yeah. The pages are still somewhere... probably even online :-)
00:20:38  <planetmaker> indeed. sleeping... :-)
00:22:24  <planetmaker> have a good night :-)
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12:16:51  <andythenorth> planetmaker: I pushed FIRS changes
12:17:08  <andythenorth> I have zero build errors here btw :)
12:17:17  <andythenorth> I spent some time last night eliminating them all
12:17:22  <planetmaker> ok, thx. I'm puzzled. Really puzzled. I see no source code changes, but your grf produces the error, mine doesn't.
12:17:26  <planetmaker> even with the savegames
12:17:32  <planetmaker> you always try with 0.7.5?
12:17:40  <andythenorth> and r18649
12:18:05  <planetmaker> that is soooo strange
12:18:23  <andythenorth> does a diff show *anything* different between your firs.nfo and mine?
12:18:47  * andythenorth afk
12:18:48  <planetmaker> not in the relevant parts. You have a dredging site, I don't. Well. So what.
12:18:56  <andythenorth> hmm
12:19:15  <planetmaker> you use windows line endings, I don't. But that shouldn't matter either.
12:19:17  <planetmaker> hm...
12:19:24  <planetmaker> we should compare md5
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12:23:57  <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 420: Feature: dredging site <> || FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 419: Add: nfo file for dredging site <> || FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 418: Change: removed underscore from bauxite mine ID name <> || FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 417: Add: pcx file for dredging site <> || FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 416: Feature: fish processor (temporary sprites) <>
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13:54:29  <Hirundo> dev server OOM?
14:15:21  <andythenorth> planetmaker: neko has no error with FIRS and NARS 2, so perhaps just me...
14:16:16  <planetmaker> andythenorth: well... your saves produce the error. But I cannot create the error myself.
14:16:23  <andythenorth> weird
14:16:30  <planetmaker> I just prepare a mail to frosch
14:16:40  <andythenorth> I don't know how parameters are stored, but I think that must be the problem...
14:20:13  <planetmaker> I doubt it
14:20:24  <planetmaker> it doesn't make a difference. Neither for you nor for me
14:24:22  <andythenorth> for a savegame, the parameters must be stored in the save?
14:24:33  <andythenorth> so you get whatever crazy parameters my OTTD has set
14:24:46  <andythenorth> but when you set them yourself, you get the correct versions
14:24:53  <planetmaker> of course params are stored in the save. They're important part of the newgrf config
14:25:27  <andythenorth> If you can't reproduce the problem except from the save, it suggests my OTTD has introduced it somewhere, no?
14:25:38  <planetmaker> well. It works for me with any parameters set and without. For you it doesn't for any and without
14:25:49  <planetmaker> Well, I'd assume it, yes.
14:25:55  <andythenorth> It does work for me with certain combinations
14:25:56  <planetmaker> But... why and where and how?
14:26:20  <planetmaker> btw: upgrade your NARS2 to 2.03 and not pre-7 or so ;-)
14:26:56  <planetmaker> and no, it doesn't make a difference for me to use one or another.
14:27:10  <andythenorth> hmm
14:27:23  <andythenorth> well I have to go out now...
14:27:32  <Rubidium> andythenorth: do you have ppc or x86?
14:27:32  <andythenorth> I think there should be a 'release' of FIRS soon
14:27:36  <andythenorth> x86
14:28:09  <Rubidium> then I've got no idea why it fails for you but not for planetmaker
14:29:10  * andythenorth shrug
14:29:50  <andythenorth> we'll do a release and see who else has the problem
14:30:00  <andythenorth> bye
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19:00:46  <Hirundo> Hmm... for some reason the dev server is not working for me, I can access redmine but all my hg commands fail
19:04:11  <Rubidium> outage?
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19:08:19  <planetmaker> works for me, Hirundo
19:10:57  <Hirundo> I'm getting this message: remote: sh: command not found          abort: no suitable response from remote hg!
19:18:08  <planetmaker> sounds like a wrong path, Hirundo
19:19:25  <Hirundo> ssh:// should be correct, right?
19:19:43  <planetmaker> for the old repo, yes. Worked 10 seconds ago for me
19:19:57  <planetmaker> as does is2-patches
19:20:10  <Rubidium> Hirundo: what ip does resolve to?
19:20:32  <Rubidium> maybe you've once set it in hosts or so during a dns migration
19:21:30  <Hirundo> How do I test that?
19:21:57  <Rubidium> what IP does ping give you
19:22:23  <Rubidium> if it isn't then you've likely set it in hosts
19:22:52  <Hirundo> I get the same ip
19:23:21  <Hirundo> Currently I can ssh into the server just fine
19:25:11  <Hirundo> But if I browse to the repository directories, they seem empty :S
19:34:21  <Hirundo> Hmm.. when I run some hg commands on the server, it complains that fork() cannot allocate enough memory
19:36:17  <Ammler> Hirundo: the current memory issues, just try agian
19:42:00  <Hirundo> working through PuTTy's ssh works fine, but still hg push/pull fails
19:42:56  <Ammler> pull works here
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19:52:39  <Hirundo> clone over http works, over ssh does not
20:04:49  <Ammler> Hirundo: your IP: ?
20:06:09  <Ammler> there is no memory issue since 20:33
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20:10:34  <Hirundo> Yes, that's mine
20:11:01  <Hirundo> Must be something with my ssh
20:17:54  <Ammler> you have successful ssh connects
20:50:11  <Hirundo> that is direcly from putty, without hg in-between
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