Log for #openttdcoop.devzone on 19th December 2010:
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08:00:02  <Brot6> FISH - Revision 452:5b9a0fe670fa: Change: rename Medium Trader to Large Trader (andythenorth) @
08:00:02  <Brot6> FISH - Revision 453:0c7dea8b3d1b: Cleanup: remove old pcx file (andythenorth) @
08:00:02  <Brot6> FISH - Revision 454:84e7cfdfcd66: Add: various source files (andythenorth) @
08:04:53  <Brot6> FISH - Revision 455:48804b092dc1: Change: added cnfo and cpnfo to ignore file (andythenorth) @
08:05:58  <Brot6> FISH - Revision 456:aebd2c3287e8: Add: couple of psd source files (andythenorth) @
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08:44:31  <planetmaker> moin
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08:48:51  <andythenorth_> hi planetmaker
08:49:48  <planetmaker> mind if I meddle a bit with FISH and smoke?
09:04:25  <andythenorth_> planetmaker: np
09:04:50  <andythenorth_> everything is committed and up to date
09:05:56  <Brot6> FISH - Revision 458:ad4ae5f831d8: Codechange: A template for the smoke effects and apply it to th... (planetmaker) @
09:06:00  <planetmaker> good :-)
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09:10:57  <planetmaker> FISH currently has about 4 warnings about unused defaults etc...
09:11:28  <andythenorth_> mmm
09:11:34  <andythenorth_> I'm going to try and fix those
09:11:45  <andythenorth_> or suppress them
09:11:51  <andythenorth_> at least one is a genuine problem
09:12:15  <andythenorth_> planetmaker: is the plan to make FISH compatible with 1.0.5?
09:12:58  <Terkhen> that would be great :)
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09:13:52  <planetmaker> andythenorth_: yes
09:14:01  <andythenorth_> planetmaker: you've added the template for the ferries....shall I do the other ships that use smoke?
09:14:13  <planetmaker> I'm currently doing that
09:14:34  <planetmaker> I'll basically add the template to all ships. But with 'none' for those that don't use it. Ok?
09:14:42  <andythenorth_> ok fine thanks
09:15:28  <andythenorth_> planetmaker: did you forget to add the template? :D
09:15:43  <planetmaker> hm did I? :-P
09:15:58  <planetmaker> damn, yes.
09:16:02  <andythenorth_> he
09:16:17  <planetmaker> I added it. Reverted patch to check back. And then forgot :-(
09:18:09  <planetmaker> there you go
09:18:10  <Brot6> FISH - Revision 459:9c509c44af04: Fix: actually ad the smoke template and apply it to river boats... (planetmaker) @
09:19:33  <andythenorth_> win
09:27:46  <Brot6> FISH - Revision 460:567dcf1d1ca7: Codechange: Apply the smoke template to the remaining ships (planetmaker) @
09:28:46  <andythenorth_> planetmaker: just nfo_header left to update ?
09:28:52  <planetmaker> yes. I'm on that
09:35:05  <Brot6> #openttdcoop - Membership #2026: Applying for project: Polish PKP Set Reloaded (BarthVader) @
09:41:10  <Brot6> FISH - Revision 461:1614b9625dc9: Codechange: Move the log raft to a separate directory and apply... (planetmaker) @
09:41:10  <Brot6> FISH - Revision 462:bcf905fa3b5f: Feature: Make FISH again compatible with OpenTTD 0.7.x series a... (planetmaker) @
09:41:13  <planetmaker> There we go. 0.7.x series compatibility
10:03:43  <andythenorth_> nice
10:13:35  <Terkhen> :)
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10:56:45  <Brot6> FISH - Revision 463:3a886c8f9c87: Change: use CC hold for Small River Boat (andythenorth) @
11:04:21  <Brot6> FISH - Revision 464:4a4aa22a831d: Change: add hold strengthening rib to Large River Boat (andythenorth) @
11:13:58  <Brot6> FISH - Revision 465:5bd6a3becec5: Fix: adjust a varaction 2 to suppress two renum errors (andythenorth) @
11:14:32  <andythenorth_> FISH has one error now, and it's a valid reminder of something I need to fix
11:14:35  <andythenorth_> so it stays
11:14:41  <andythenorth_> time for a release?
11:15:04  <Brot6> FISH - Revision 466:54d2aaf38efc: Fix: adjust a varaction 2 to suppress one renum error (andythenorth) @
11:18:29  <Terkhen> supporting OpenTTD stable again and new shiny graphics are good enough reasons IMO :)
11:20:22  <planetmaker> quite indeed :-)
11:23:23  <andythenorth_> I am about to release, but I think I forget something :|
11:23:25  <andythenorth_> ho well
11:23:28  <Brot6> FISH - Revision 467:c2dfa2ec22cf: Change: update changelog for 0.8.0 release (andythenorth) @
11:23:46  <planetmaker> changelog? ;-)
11:23:59  <planetmaker> oh, that was only the changelog :-P
11:24:54  <planetmaker> hm, I actually like the idea to keep deprecated *whatever*.
11:25:20  <planetmaker> The same thing could probably have been done in quite a few cases :-)
11:25:24  <andythenorth_> ?
11:25:39  <Brot6> FISH - Revision 468:68eef197e51d: Added tag 0.8.0 for changeset c2dfa2ec22cf (andythenorth) @
11:25:43  <planetmaker> like you just set their climate availability to 0, didn't you?
11:25:47  <andythenorth_> yup
11:25:53  <andythenorth_> no need to break savegames
11:25:57  <planetmaker> Exactly
11:26:05  <andythenorth_> the existing vehicles also preserve their capacity
11:26:13  <andythenorth_> so no odd route breakage
11:26:24  <planetmaker> aye
11:26:45  <Brot6> fish: update from 0.7.0 to 0.8.0 done (1 errors) -
11:27:18  <planetmaker> what one actually could do for things like capacity changes etc: just introduce a new vehicle with the same stats like the old one, but that one changed. And just make the old one not available anymore
11:27:38  <andythenorth_> if you have enough IDs, why not
11:27:41  <planetmaker> It would after some time add quite a few vehicles to the deprecated section, but that's not that dramatically
11:27:45  <andythenorth_> then dump it a few versions later
11:27:48  <planetmaker> we have plenty of IDs
11:27:50  <andythenorth_> it keeps a migration path
11:27:57  <planetmaker> exacly my thinking, andythenorth_ :-)
11:28:10  <andythenorth_> I should remember to do that for HEQS 2
11:28:16  <planetmaker> yeah :-)
11:28:17  <andythenorth_> next year....
11:28:23  <andythenorth_> remind me not to start HEQS 2 for a while :P
11:28:29  <planetmaker> Or when I modify ogfx+trains etc
11:28:43  <planetmaker> not sure how well that works for industry layouts
11:29:10  <andythenorth_> it doesn't
11:29:14  <andythenorth_> we need that fs task
11:29:21  <planetmaker> we also don't have plenty of industry slots... Hm...
11:29:27  <andythenorth_> this one:
11:30:33  <planetmaker> Hm, that would make it A LOT easier to keep compatibility, right?
11:31:03  <planetmaker> meh... so many things which would be very good to have. Also like railtype introduction dates
11:32:46  <Ammler> andythenorth_: made the statistics for you:
11:33:11  <Ammler> you rule the devzone ;-)
11:33:14  <andythenorth_> planetmaker: that cb28 extension would be useful for multiple reasons
11:33:25  <andythenorth_> not least is, frosch123 thought that *was* the spec for cb28
11:34:01  <planetmaker> hehe @ Ammler :-)
11:34:14  <andythenorth_> but also industries where new builds change size over time (store -> supermarket), (windmill -> grain mill)
11:34:23  <planetmaker> yep
11:34:29  <andythenorth_> I commit therefore I am
11:34:33  <andythenorth_> many of my commits are small
11:34:34  <planetmaker> :-P
11:34:51  <Ammler> andythenorth_: that is the blue bar for
11:35:04  <andythenorth_> I dislike resolving diffs a lot, so I make very atomic commits
11:37:36  <Ammler> <-- you have still open version 0.7, btw ;-)
11:38:12  <andythenorth_> I'll sort that out
11:39:49  <Brot6> FISH - Feature #2036 (Closed): Copy smoke template from HEQS - remove ottd version problems (andythenorth) @
11:39:49  <Brot6> FISH - Bug #2032 (Closed): DevZone compile failed (andythenorth) @
11:40:28  <Brot6> FISH - Bug #689 (Closed): Minimum version requirements (andythenorth) @
11:41:06  <Brot6> FISH - Feature #1133 (Rejected): Set capacity of large river boat to 480t? (andythenorth) @
11:52:45  <andythenorth_> done done, on to the next one....
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12:15:16  <Ammler> FIRS seems quite buggy with closing
12:15:24  <Ammler> is that a 1.0 issue?
12:15:33  <Ammler> feels like pbi
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12:34:32  <Ammler> on .stable, 3 full serviced industries closed down
12:52:51  <Brot6> #openttdcoop - Membership #2026 (Resolved): Applying for project: Polish PKP Set Reloaded (BarthVader) @
12:52:51  <Brot6> #openttdcoop - Membership #2026 (Resolved): Applying for project: Polish PKP Set Reloaded (Ammler) @
12:56:03  <Brot6> repository /home/hg/pkp-trainset registered in Redmine with url /home/hg/pkp-trainset
12:56:03  <Brot6> repository /home/hg/pkp-trainset created
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14:25:36  <Ammler> andythenorth_: on current .stable, there were 3 full serviced industries closed (firs)
14:27:30  <andythenorth_> Ammler: it's an annoying bug
14:27:37  <andythenorth_> I can't figure out what causes it
14:28:13  <Ammler> bug from openttd or firs?
14:28:53  <andythenorth_> firs
14:28:55  <andythenorth_> ooh
14:29:18  <andythenorth_> maybe I handle monthly production change, but forget to handle random change?
14:29:44  <andythenorth_> Ammler: do you know what industry types closed?
14:29:51  <andythenorth_> if so could you update
14:30:00  <andythenorth_> I want to fix it for next release
14:30:18  * andythenorth_ back later
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14:34:25  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Bug #1992: Apparent secondary closure bug (Ammler) @
14:37:59  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Bug #1992: Apparent secondary closure bug (Ammler) @
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15:59:35  <Ammler> <-- quick url support :-)
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17:17:49  <Brot6> all-andy: compile of r2603 failed -
17:18:57  <Ammler> hehe
17:19:06  <Brot6> all-devzone: update from  to r9332 done -
17:19:31  <Brot6> fish: update from r448 to r468 done (1 errors) -
17:19:43  <Brot6> Following repos didn't need a nightlies update: 2cctrainset (r686), 32bpp-extra (r39), ai-admiralai (r75), airportsplus (r70), basecosts (r22), belarusiantowns (r8), bros (r40), comic-houses (r71), firs (r1585), frenchtowns (r6), grfcodec (r817), heqs (r566), indonesiantowns (r39), manindu (r6), metrotrackset (r56), newgrf_makefile (r241), nml (r1118), nutracks (r120), ogfx-nogrid (r11), ogfx-rv (r78), ogfx-trains (r200), ogfx-trees
17:19:43  <Brot6> (r41), opengfx (r580), openmsx (r97), opensfx (r97), smts (r19), snowlinemod (r45), swedishrails (r193), swisstowns (r22), transrapidtrackset (r15), ttdviewer (r26), ttrs (r23), worldairlinersset (r669)
17:19:57  <Brot6> all-andy: compile of r2603 failed -
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17:33:59  <Brot6> North American Road Vehicle Set (NARVS) - Support #2037 (New): nightly build does support branch ... (Ammler) @
17:46:48  <Ammler> would also be a good name
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