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Log for #openttdcoop.devzone on 13th September 2014:
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09:36:46  <Alberth> log output of eints would be a simple print statement to stdout?
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09:54:18  <frosch123> i guess that works, isn't there a bottle log function though?
09:58:49  <Alberth> just pushed the change
10:01:08  <Alberth> time to do a little food shopping
10:01:38  <Rubidium> you're nuts...
10:01:50  <Rubidium> doing groceries on saturday after 09:00
10:03:40  <planetmaker> Rubidium, best time for shopping is 19h :)
10:05:04  <frosch123> you don't get bread at that time
10:19:25  <Rubidium> planetmaker: why?
10:20:09  <Rubidium> because till around 19:30 the 'parent'  kind of people do their groceries after just getting back from their children having done sports but before dinner
10:21:09  <Rubidium> and from around 19:00 those that want to party start to fetch booze and chips so they can get not-so-sober to the bar/disco/whatever later that evening
10:22:29  <frosch123> Rubidium: you have to consider that pm lives in a place where shops close at 22:00 or later
10:22:39  <frosch123> so, the party people come later
10:23:24  <planetmaker> Rubidium: people usally have dinner around 19...20h. That's the most empty time, emptier than 21h
10:24:50  <Rubidium> so that's the problem ;)
10:25:25  <Rubidium> it's probably more evenly distributed here, or maybe two peaks
10:26:26  <planetmaker> more also like TV evening starts 19..20h. So they did their shopping before. And the people who don't care come just before shop closes, between 21 and 22h
10:27:37  <Rubidium> planetmaker: you are talking about saturdays, right?
10:28:05  <planetmaker> rather more general. Saturdays this behaviour is not that prominent
10:28:52  <planetmaker> but very clear on Mo ... Fr
10:29:30  <oskari89> Planetmaker, how is the http acces to repos... ?
10:29:33  <Rubidium> during the week the best time to do shopping is 08:00 (as at 08:30 the schools start and all the mothers tend to flock at supermarkets and the likes)
10:29:52  <oskari89> It's been down quite long time now :(
10:31:45  <oskari89> It would be easier to use if http access could be regained
10:35:28  <planetmaker> oskari89: you mean http push access?
10:35:34  <planetmaker> http pull access is there
10:36:16  <planetmaker> yet I do agree, it's easier if we (also) had https push access again
10:37:01  <^Spike^> we just wish it was as easy as flicking a switch
10:37:04  <planetmaker> it's on our todo list, but it's not exactly straight forward if we don't want a dozen accounts for each person which we would need to manage manually
10:37:06  <^Spike^> cause we would've done that already :)
10:37:34  <oskari89> :)
10:37:45  <oskari89> Somehow, i cannot pull using http
10:37:49  <^Spike^> hmmm
10:37:53  <planetmaker> from where do you pull?
10:38:01  <planetmaker> http pull should work
10:38:07  <planetmaker> I mean which URL do you pull?
10:38:18  <^Spike^> i didn't force https to pull so yeah it should work
10:38:31  <oskari89> Hmm, its https:// ast hgrc, i'll change that
10:38:37  <oskari89> *at
10:38:53  <planetmaker> should work, too. what's the full URL?
10:38:58  <^Spike^> http and https should both work
10:39:18  <oskari89> default = http://kyosuke1989@push.openttdcoop.org/finnishtrainset
10:39:19  <oskari89> That
10:39:25  <planetmaker> well. push :)
10:39:31  <planetmaker> you pull from hg.openttdcoop.org/PROJECTNAME
10:39:43  <oskari89> I'll do that
10:40:09  <planetmaker> default = http://hg.openttdcoop.org/finnishtrainset
10:40:16  <planetmaker> ^ should work for pull
10:40:28  <oskari89> 404
10:40:40  <^Spike^> try https? :)
10:41:04  <^Spike^> seems hg does rewrite to https
10:41:27  <oskari89> Still 404
10:42:24  <^Spike^> can you visit it with your browser?
10:42:41  <oskari89> Works
10:42:50  <^Spike^> weird.... :)
10:43:09  <planetmaker> I can clone from that URL, oskari89
10:43:34  <oskari89> Hmmm :D
10:43:37  <planetmaker> actually also http (without https)
10:43:42  <oskari89> Something is happening
10:43:55  <^Spike^> hehe
10:45:22  <oskari89> Sounds like its working
10:45:30  <planetmaker> took nearly a minute here to update my finnishtainset repo :)
10:46:25  <planetmaker> good :)
10:46:47  <planetmaker> and is using ssh for push a principle problem for you?
10:47:02  <oskari89> Too complicated :D
10:48:07  <oskari89> On the long run, https works good, like it did year ago :)
10:48:19  <^Spike^> it didn't work so good for the server ;)
10:48:26  <^Spike^> that why we had to shut the old one down :D
10:48:34  <oskari89> What did exactly happen?
10:48:47  <^Spike^> the moment such a tool starts crashing your vms you know something is seriously wrong :D
10:48:48  <planetmaker> httpd server crashed
10:48:51  <planetmaker> due to repo sizes
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10:49:16  <oskari89> Okay
10:49:56  <planetmaker> thus we need a different httpd server for repos. And the other ones, which are decent ones, are not so easily convinced to use devzone login
10:52:21  <planetmaker> I could, in principle, give you an account on our hg.openttdcoop.org. That then could be used for pushing via httpd, too. But that would be a testing account and you'll thus be the one to test for us how and whether that works
10:52:43  <oskari89> Hmmm
10:53:17  <oskari89> Sounds fair
10:56:51  <planetmaker> right. Change your URL then to: https://kyosuke1989@hg.openttdcoop.org/finnishtrainset
10:59:19  <oskari89> Ok
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11:33:15  <planetmaker> oskari89, so does it work to pull from or push to https://kyosuke1989@hg.openttdcoop.org/finnishtrainset ?
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11:41:16  <oskari89> Wait a second, some settings
11:43:11  <oskari89> Works as charm... (?) ;)
11:44:56  <planetmaker> ok
11:47:16  <oskari89> Hmm, has there been some changes on Jenkins?
11:47:46  <oskari89> Clicked at build now, build accepted, nothing seems actually change
11:48:14  <oskari89> Oh, i forgot to push :D
11:48:43  <oskari89> Too long time when i last did this
11:54:45  <^Spike^> hehe
11:54:54  <^Spike^> i was already checking logs and like: i see no push... :)
11:58:17  <planetmaker> https://hg.openttdcoop.org/_admin/journal lists everything done by rhodecode
11:58:37  <^Spike^> i know :)
12:01:47  <oskari89> Hmm, can somebody access friss repo?
12:02:05  <oskari89> Oh, momentarily it didn't work
12:02:09  <oskari89> Now it works again
12:03:44  <planetmaker> I enabled your https push/pull for finnishtrains, friss and frissrails. Others won't work
12:03:58  <planetmaker> won't work for write access that is
12:07:47  <oskari89> Ok
12:13:00  <oskari89> Cloning of frissrails
12:13:05  <oskari89> running "TortoisePlink.exe" -ssh -2 hg@hg.openttdcoop.org "hg -R tiq serve --stdio"
12:13:05  <oskari89> no suitable response from remote hg
12:13:05  <oskari89> [command returned code 255 Sat Sep 13 15:12:14 2014]
12:13:17  <oskari89> Failed!
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12:19:41  <oskari89> So pulling does not work
12:19:52  <oskari89> from frissrails, on above settings
12:20:19  <^Spike^> i think you should pull the same way as you do pull the other project (without ssh using https)
12:20:31  <^Spike^> but that is just my guess :)
12:20:49  <oskari89> Yes, settings are ok, but somehow that goes like that when pulling :(
12:20:58  <^Spike^> hmmm
12:21:31  <oskari89> cloning like
12:21:53  <oskari89> http://hg.openttdcoop.org/frissrails -> destination (at the hard drive)
12:28:49  <planetmaker> you try to clone via ssh and probably don't have your key available. http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/home/wiki/Ssh <-- step 4 probably missing
12:32:15  <oskari89> Why did the FRISS, and FTS repo then clone without errors like that? :P
12:36:44  <planetmaker> you didn't clone them via ssh?
12:38:22  <planetmaker> or you didn't clone them at all. But only updated the existing repos
12:39:29  <planetmaker> thus you seem to use different settings than you think you use. That makes it extremely difficult to follow
12:45:09  <planetmaker> unfortunately I don't know whether and if so where tortoise has any defaults
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14:28:23  <oskari89> Planetmaker: I did clone them
14:29:12  <oskari89> Tried to update existing repos, but recloning new worked for the first two
14:30:43  <oskari89> :D
14:30:48  <oskari89> Pushing WORKS :D
14:31:35  <oskari89> Now, let's try tagging
14:33:31  <oskari89> .. and then, what says Jenkins
14:36:06  <oskari89> Failure
14:36:14  <oskari89> https://jenkins.openttdcoop.org/job/finnishtrainset/73/console
14:36:20  <oskari89> What does that mean
14:45:39  <planetmaker> not your bug, oskari89
14:48:50  <planetmaker> try again, oskari89
14:58:52  <^Spike^> case of blame spike :D
15:06:27  <oskari89> :)
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16:40:52  <DevZone> Project road-hog build #295-nightlies: STILL FAILING in 45 sec: https://jenkins.openttdcoop.org/job/road-hog/295/
16:48:42  <DevZone> Project World Airliner Set build #345-push: STILL FAILING in 43 sec: https://jenkins.openttdcoop.org/job/worldairlinersset/345/
16:49:51  <DevZone> Project 2ccts build #299-push: SUCCESS in 1 min 42 sec: https://jenkins.openttdcoop.org/job/2ccts/299/
17:04:49  <DevZone> Project 2ccts build #300-push: SUCCESS in 1 min 27 sec: https://jenkins.openttdcoop.org/job/2ccts/300/
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17:37:19  <DevZone> Project xussrset - Trains from Russia build #426-push: SUCCESS in 3 min 25 sec: https://jenkins.openttdcoop.org/job/xussrset/426/
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20:18:49  <DevZone> Project Iron Horse build #1041-push: SUCCESS in 3 min 3 sec: https://jenkins.openttdcoop.org/job/iron-horse/1041/
20:21:44  <DevZone> Project Iron Horse build #1042-push: SUCCESS in 2 min 55 sec: https://jenkins.openttdcoop.org/job/iron-horse/1042/
20:43:45  <DevZone> Project xussrset - Trains from Russia build #427-push: SUCCESS in 3 min 33 sec: https://jenkins.openttdcoop.org/job/xussrset/427/
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21:32:23  <DevZone> Project Iron Horse build #1043-push: SUCCESS in 3 min 1 sec: https://jenkins.openttdcoop.org/job/iron-horse/1043/
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22:21:03  <DevZone> Project Iron Horse build #1044-push: SUCCESS in 3 min 10 sec: https://jenkins.openttdcoop.org/job/iron-horse/1044/
22:24:07  <DevZone> Project Iron Horse build #1045-push: SUCCESS in 3 min 3 sec: https://jenkins.openttdcoop.org/job/iron-horse/1045/
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