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00:01:46 <Ammler> @makeop PeterT 00:01:46 <Webster> Ammler: The operation succeeded. 00:02:44 <PeterT> :-D 00:02:48 <PeterT> neat command 00:02:51 <PeterT> @help makeop 00:02:51 <Webster> PeterT: (makeop <an alias, 1 argument>) -- Alias for "channel capability add op". 00:03:05 <PeterT> @op 00:03:05 *** Webster sets mode: +o PeterT 00:05:43 <Ammler> you didn't take that long to find that channel :-P 00:06:07 <PeterT> I knew about this channel before 00:06:07 <Ammler> @makeop Hirundo 00:06:16 <PeterT> but it was empty when I joined 00:06:17 <PeterT> anyway 00:06:21 <PeterT> time 4 southparks! 00:06:29 <PeterT> (South Park) 00:07:27 <Ammler> PeterT: you know my tt-forums avatar? 00:07:34 <PeterT> yes :-) 00:08:55 <PeterT> i'm watching the new one -- about KFC 00:12:34 <PeterT> Ammler: http://www.southparkstudios.com/episodes/267110 00:12:35 <Webster> Title: South Park Episode Player - Medicinal Fried Chicken (at www.southparkstudios.com) 04:17:12 *** Webster has joined #openttdcoop.stable 04:17:31 *** PeterT has quit IRC 04:32:21 *** PeterT has joined #openttdcoop.stable 04:32:21 *** oxygen.oftc.net sets mode: +o PeterT 04:32:22 *** ChanServ sets mode: -o PeterT 11:04:57 <PeterT> @services op 11:04:57 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Webster 11:05:00 <PeterT> @op 11:05:00 *** Webster sets mode: +o PeterT 11:27:20 *** KenjiE20 has joined #openttdcoop.stable 11:27:20 *** Webster sets mode: +o KenjiE20 12:02:55 <PeterT> Ammler: Are we going to run a 1.0.0 server? 12:03:12 <Ammler> we already did :-) 12:03:24 <PeterT> are you going to again? 12:03:50 <Ammler> yes, maybe 12:04:20 <PeterT> ok :-) 12:04:27 <PeterT> we could run PublicServer on it 12:04:33 <Ammler> no 12:04:36 <PeterT> since 1.0.0 is the equivalent of a very recent nightly 12:05:01 <Ammler> we run nightly there as "prefilter" 12:05:28 <Ammler> only people which can install nightlies should join us 12:05:47 <PeterT> indeed 12:06:15 <Ammler> I mean, I run that stable server for maybe around 3-4 hours 12:06:19 <KenjiE20> 1.0.0 was split from trunk last year anyway 12:06:26 <Ammler> then I had already to ban someone 12:07:01 <Ammler> he created new companies to terraform the whole map to one level 12:07:16 <Ammler> because the stupid guy didn't know about realistic acceleration 12:08:07 <Ammler> also someone else joined a unpassworded company and destroyed the tracks so he was able to build his own tracks 12:08:36 <Ammler> such things dropped my mood to make a stable server quite much... 12:08:56 <PeterT> I guess stable servers need more moderation than nightly ones 12:09:14 <PeterT> On my server, channel #sn, I use a goulp patch to turn off terraforming 12:09:25 <PeterT> and force people to make a company password 12:09:33 <Ammler> I guess, if we make such a server, we should still password the server 12:09:51 <PeterT> probably 12:10:08 <planetmaker> Ammler: that did happen yesterday? 12:10:16 <PeterT> But for the stable, you could only need one password 12:10:20 <PeterT> and put it in the topic 12:10:49 <Ammler> PeterT: mention it on our homepage 12:11:01 <PeterT> Sure 12:11:09 <Ammler> a special rule page where at the bottom is the password 12:11:34 <PeterT> oh the wiki? 12:11:39 <Ammler> yep 12:11:50 <PeterT> what kind of ' 12:12:02 <PeterT> what kind of 'special rules' are you thinking of? 12:13:32 <Ammler> none 12:13:42 <Ammler> mostly "play fair" 12:13:59 <PeterT> ok 12:14:23 <Ammler> we have no real experience with it, so this would need to build up 12:14:30 <PeterT> ok :-) 12:14:53 <PeterT> I'll use a dummy wiki page, then Kenji can move it to wherever he wants, ok? 12:15:46 <Ammler> maybe we should setup such a hard compete server I used to visit before I joined #openttdcoop 12:16:06 <planetmaker> have there been *before* you joined coop?! 12:16:33 <Ammler> yes, the server didn't go >0.4.8 12:16:34 <PeterT> hehe 12:16:49 <planetmaker> :-) 12:17:04 <Ammler> that was real fun 12:41:52 <PeterT> Ammler: http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Quickstart/Stable 12:41:57 <PeterT> KenjiE20: ^ 12:57:11 <planetmaker> people need to chose a decent nick. 12:57:33 <PeterT> I shall add thta 12:59:56 * KenjiE20 wonders how one would 'get' communication 12:59:57 <PeterT> planetmaker: fixed 13:00:22 <PeterT> KenjiE20: perhaps the skill of Communication? 13:00:49 <KenjiE20> "What you will need": Communication 13:00:52 <KenjiE20> makes no sense 13:01:08 <PeterT> I will remove it 13:01:59 <Ammler> irc is needed for admin things only, imo 13:02:15 <Ammler> the server would be for people not familiar with irc 13:02:59 <KenjiE20> or anything else for that matter 13:03:17 <KenjiE20> we'll presume they know how to get a stable openttd though 13:03:28 <KenjiE20> since that's well, trained chimp easy 13:04:29 <PeterT> there is no table of contents, how does one add it? 13:04:38 <KenjiE20> what? 13:04:59 <PeterT> a table of contents 13:05:05 <Ammler> TOC 13:05:27 <KenjiE20> it's a preferences thing 13:05:29 <KenjiE20> it's there 13:05:40 <PeterT> ok 13:06:20 <KenjiE20> wouldn't a rules page for stable be better suited on the portal page? 13:07:19 <KenjiE20> since that's the obvious place to visit/find, and the url of the server 13:07:38 <PeterT> I agree witht hat 13:12:59 <PeterT> 11:51:16 <Ammler> well, or ban petert and make the server administratable by the channel :-) 13:13:25 <Ammler> oh :-o 13:13:32 <Ammler> you have your spies :-P 13:13:51 <PeterT> Not exactly 13:13:53 <Ammler> I lost 13:14:02 <Ammler> they decided to make you admin ;-) 13:14:22 <PeterT> 11:58:27 <Ammler> yeah, let us see, how long it needs, until he founds the channel :-) 13:14:22 <PeterT> <-- hehehehheheh 13:16:04 <Ammler> hmm. logs :-( 13:17:32 <PeterT> why does webster say "Player, please change your in-game nick."? 13:17:44 <PeterT> I know the reason, but what command makes him? 13:17:44 <KenjiE20> because a player joined? 13:17:48 <KenjiE20> mine 13:17:52 <PeterT> just when he sees "Player has joined" 13:18:02 <Ammler> because you didn't update the Player patch for AP+ 13:18:10 <KenjiE20> :D 13:18:18 <PeterT> *** Player joined the game 13:18:18 <Webster> Player, please change your in game nick 13:18:26 <PeterT> :-D 13:18:37 *** PeterT was kicked by KenjiE20 (:D) 13:18:37 *** PeterT has joined #openttdcoop.stable 13:18:37 *** Webster sets mode: +o PeterT 13:18:50 <PeterT> oh D-: 13:19:03 <PeterT> I will stop 13:21:19 <PeterT> Ammler: amazing the amount of players you had with the server 13:22:23 <Ammler> well, it is easy with "#openttdcoop" in the name :-) 13:22:34 <Ammler> and maybe also the fact, that there were no newgrfs... 13:23:06 <PeterT> Indeed 13:23:15 <PeterT> can we start it up again? 13:23:27 <PeterT> should I register Stablean? 13:23:52 <Ammler> hmm, let me do that 13:24:05 <Ammler> link it to the other server nicks 13:24:14 <PeterT> oh right 13:24:21 <PeterT> hey, I never thought of that 13:24:25 <PeterT> that's a good approah 13:24:27 <PeterT> *approach 13:26:04 <PeterT> Ammler: is this what you were speaking of? http://hyru.ath.cx:60080/~kenji/ottdcoop/?channel=openttdcoop.stable&date=1270105200#1270131456 13:28:03 <Ammler> PeterT: that was the guy who founded new companies just for terraforming 13:28:29 <Ammler> as you see, I kicked multiple clients with one ip 13:28:39 <PeterT> registered stablean yet? 13:29:35 <PeterT> http://hyru.ath.cx:60080/~kenji/ottdcoop/?channel=openttdcoop.stable&date=1270105200#1270147126 Lol 13:30:21 <Ammler> do it, if you want, I need the pw then... 13:31:04 <PeterT> what email address? 13:32:56 <PeterT> I will use Mailinator 13:34:25 *** Stablean has joined #openttdcoop.stable 13:35:19 <Stablean> Ammler: PM'd password 13:36:19 *** Stablean has quit IRC 13:37:11 <Ammler> [15:36] <Ammler> could you change the email to stablean@openttdcoop.org 13:37:13 <Ammler> [15:36] [Error] Stablean: No such nick/channel. 13:37:14 <Ammler> [15:36] <Ammler> does email needs confirming? 13:37:36 <PeterT> It doesn't 13:37:41 <PeterT> Ok, I will change it 13:37:53 <Ammler> then you don't need to hide it :-) 13:37:56 <PeterT> I also <Stablean> set url http://www.openttdcoop.org/servers/stable 13:37:57 <PeterT> -NickServ- SET URL to http://www.openttdcoop.org/servers/stable. 13:38:32 <PeterT> Ammler: shall we set ENFORCE on? 13:38:38 <Ammler> no 13:39:02 <PeterT> ok 13:39:05 <Ammler> that could just cause troubles, if identify doesn't work 13:39:07 *** Stablean has joined #openttdcoop.stable 13:39:12 <Stablean> I've set everything up 13:39:25 <Ammler> thanks :-) 13:39:27 <PeterT> @list services 13:39:27 <Webster> PeterT: ghost, identify, invite, nicks, op, password, unban, and voice 13:39:46 <PeterT> I'll leave it to you to add Stablean to the access list 13:39:58 <Ammler> you can't 13:40:02 *** Stablean has quit IRC 13:40:05 <PeterT> exactly 13:40:35 <Ammler> [15:40] [Notice] -ChanServ- Stablean added to #openttdcoop.stable access list as MEMBER. 13:40:43 <PeterT> woo 13:41:19 *** Stablean has joined #openttdcoop.stable 13:41:33 <PeterT> oh right, auto-voice is not on 13:42:47 *** Stablean has quit IRC 13:43:24 <PeterT> Ammler: can you unquiet me on #openttdcoop.bots? I'd like to look at the plugins 14:02:52 <PeterT> Ammler / KenjiE20: can you add the Stable quickstart to the wiki's main page? 14:06:46 <Ammler> PeterT: do not push us :-P 14:07:00 <PeterT> I'm eager to play 14:07:01 <PeterT> ok 14:07:08 <Ammler> I have setup the server 14:07:12 * PeterT goes away from IRC 14:07:13 <Ammler> install webcam 14:07:28 <PeterT> oh, that will be interesting 14:07:30 <Ammler> and getsave 14:46:48 <Ammler> stable doesn't start :-( 14:47:04 <PeterT> error? 14:50:27 <planetmaker> Ammler: you're on our main server installing it? 14:50:39 <Ammler> on ps 14:50:44 <planetmaker> jo 14:50:55 <planetmaker> that's in my eyes the "main server" :-) 14:51:08 <planetmaker> maybe main game server :-) 14:51:17 <Ammler> in my eyes, the main server is _our_ server :-P 14:51:44 <Ammler> yes, our super duper game server 14:51:45 <PeterT> if two people are on the same screen, do you see what commands the other is typing before they execute them? 14:52:00 <Ammler> yep, that is why we use screen 14:52:06 <Ammler> well, not really 14:52:12 <Ammler> but a side effect :-) 14:52:22 <planetmaker> and a good one 14:52:28 <PeterT> @list tweet 14:52:33 <PeterT> @help tweet 14:52:33 <Webster> PeterT: (tweet <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "twitter post $*". 14:53:38 <Ammler> planetmaker: sorry :-P 14:53:44 <planetmaker> gah. screen config sucks there 14:53:52 <planetmaker> my backspace doesn't work there 14:54:10 <Ammler> well 14:54:26 <Ammler> I don't think, backspace cause our troubles :-P 14:54:33 <planetmaker> :-P 14:55:01 <planetmaker> well. OpenTTD runs 14:55:39 <PeterT> woo? 14:55:43 <Ammler> yes :-) 14:55:49 <Ammler> so far I was 14:55:50 <PeterT> woo! 14:56:14 <PeterT> um... Dedicated 14:56:14 <PeterT> #openttdcoop Welcome Stable (www.openttdcoop.org) 14:56:14 <PeterT> 0 / 255 0 / 15 r19532 14:56:15 <planetmaker> ok, I just read "OpenTTD doesn't run" ;-) 14:56:23 <PeterT> r19532? 14:56:30 <Ammler> oh 14:56:48 <planetmaker> :-D 14:56:56 <planetmaker> that's why I didn't find it 14:57:01 <PeterT> haha 14:57:24 <Ammler> fixed :-P 14:57:30 <PeterT> already? 14:57:31 <Ammler> but still 14:57:31 <PeterT> fast. 14:57:37 <Ammler> yeah, I am good :-) 14:59:06 <planetmaker> yes :-) 14:59:33 <PeterT> I can see the server, but I cannot connect 15:00:11 <planetmaker> yes, it's down again ;-) 15:00:27 *** Stablean has joined #openttdcoop.stable 15:00:27 <Stablean> Autopilot engaged 15:00:27 <Stablean> Starting new game: '#openttdcoop Welcome Stable (www.openttdcoop.org)' 15:00:27 <Stablean> Landscape: temperate 15:00:27 <Stablean> Dimensions: 512x512 15:00:27 <Stablean> Starting year: 1950 15:00:28 *** Stablean has quit IRC 15:00:47 <PeterT> /msg ChanServ set autovoice on 15:01:46 <Ammler> whoo 15:01:49 <Ammler> planetmaker: did it? 15:02:18 <planetmaker> hm? 17:36:53 <Ammler> what happen with the server? 17:36:55 <Ammler> planetmaker: ? 17:37:18 <planetmaker> I did nothing 17:37:40 <Ammler> didn't you get it joining the channel? 17:37:54 <planetmaker> I didn't continue to try actually :-P 17:38:06 <planetmaker> but without ap+ changes it seems to fail 17:38:33 <Ammler> but how did you get to join it? 17:39:22 <planetmaker> it does that before it crashes 17:39:40 <planetmaker> just call ap+ normally 18:11:30 <PeterT> what happens to ap+ exactly? 18:13:30 <Ammler> I don't get it that far, so it joins irc 18:15:34 <PeterT> errors? 18:16:32 <Ammler> still the same 18:17:55 *** Stablean has joined #openttdcoop.stable 18:17:55 <Stablean> Autopilot engaged 18:17:56 <Stablean> Starting new game: '#openttdcoop Welcome Stable (www.openttdcoop.org)' 18:17:56 <Stablean> Landscape: temperate 18:17:56 <Stablean> Dimensions: 512x512 18:17:56 <Stablean> Starting year: 1950 18:17:56 *** Stablean has quit IRC 18:18:02 <planetmaker> there, Ammler 18:18:06 <planetmaker> check window2 18:18:28 <planetmaker> it's not like it is of use... 18:22:24 <Ammler> planetmaker: maybe PeterT has an idea 18:22:35 <Ammler> could you paste the output 18:22:51 <Ammler> the window there is quite small, I have no idea, how to paste 18:22:53 <planetmaker> I don't get the full output as I cannot scroll back 18:22:59 <planetmaker> :-D 18:23:10 <planetmaker> piping didn't work either 18:24:17 <Ammler> http://ps.openttdcoop.org/stable/autopilot.log 18:24:29 <Ammler> PeterT: ^ 18:24:34 <PeterT> I see 18:24:42 <Ammler> really? :-o 18:31:35 <planetmaker> any ideas, though? 18:31:46 <PeterT> No 18:32:02 <PeterT> I'm looking at autopilot.tcl's line 199 18:32:12 <planetmaker> Ammler: what about a scp from the mz server in order to obtain a 1:1 copy? 18:32:17 <planetmaker> There it worked after all... 18:32:52 <Ammler> hmm, don't mind 18:33:01 <Ammler> I copied the cfg 18:33:06 <Ammler> build the stable self 18:33:38 <PeterT> hey, didn't you tweet that the port was 4000, and not 3999? 18:33:51 <Ammler> yes, I changed that back 18:34:20 <PeterT> ok 18:34:25 <Ammler> also the ip 18:34:32 <PeterT> line 199 says; array set player {} 18:34:33 <Ammler> everything else I left 18:34:53 <Ammler> hmm, maybe we should try unpatched 18:35:55 <PeterT> it is patched? 18:35:59 <PeterT> how so? 18:36:05 <PeterT> DoCommand-Log? 18:36:07 <planetmaker> ap+ is patched. 18:36:11 <PeterT> oh 18:36:29 <planetmaker> with... some default thing... dunno which. I think the { } issue 18:36:30 <Ammler> and the screenshot patch 18:36:35 <planetmaker> right 18:36:35 <Ammler> enabled blitter 18:51:29 <KenjiE20> I see it 18:52:15 <KenjiE20> or at least I see something quite weird 20:28:34 <Ammler> :-) 20:28:43 <Ammler> google adsense income didn't rise