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00:02:05 *** KenjiE20 has quit IRC 00:31:02 <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (leaving) 00:31:04 <Stablean> *** Game paused (number of players) 04:48:45 <Stablean> *** OG Matautas joined the game 04:49:17 <Stablean> *** OG Matautas has joined company #2 04:49:19 <Stablean> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 06:35:59 *** ^Spike^ has joined #openttdcoop.stable 06:35:59 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o ^Spike^ 07:35:36 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop.stable 07:35:36 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o ODM 07:45:23 <Stablean> *** learningottd joined the game 07:45:26 <Stablean> <OG Matautas> hello 07:45:29 <Stablean> <learningottd> yo 07:46:43 <Stablean> <learningottd> i agree. should start new game :) 07:46:53 <Stablean> <OG Matautas> sign in the list 07:46:55 <Stablean> <learningottd> did 07:51:53 <Stablean> <OG Matautas> ur systen is strange 07:52:03 <Stablean> <OG Matautas> passngers+cargo in one network 07:52:05 <Stablean> <learningottd> i know. its a big mess :p 07:52:11 <Stablean> <OG Matautas> huge mess 07:52:31 <Stablean> <learningottd> trying to find out how busy i can make a network :) 07:52:56 <Stablean> <OG Matautas> V should know how to split trains 07:52:58 <Stablean> <OG Matautas> i mean 07:53:04 <Stablean> <OG Matautas> double lane 07:53:22 <Stablean> <learningottd> yup 07:53:44 <Stablean> <learningottd> its gotten a little better now. not that jammed. 07:54:06 <Stablean> <OG Matautas> that cary invedingham station 07:54:12 <Stablean> <OG Matautas> cant cope with the trains 07:54:26 <Stablean> <OG Matautas> because of that pasenger+cargo 07:54:32 <Stablean> <learningottd> V made it. dont dare trying to expand it :p 07:54:47 <Stablean> <OG Matautas> i just think that 07:54:53 <Stablean> <OG Matautas> u could seperate those stations 07:55:01 <Stablean> <OG Matautas> make for cargo 07:55:07 <Stablean> <OG Matautas> and 1 for passengers 07:55:13 <Stablean> <OG Matautas> but it takes hell lot of work 07:55:20 <Stablean> <OG Matautas> with orders 08:00:11 <Stablean> <OG Matautas> btw 08:00:17 <Stablean> <OG Matautas> ur ratings piss me off 08:00:29 <Stablean> <learningottd> how come? :p 08:00:32 <Stablean> <OG Matautas> u see 08:00:47 <Stablean> <OG Matautas> we have 2 or three oil rigs 08:00:53 <Stablean> <OG Matautas> wells* 08:00:55 <Stablean> <learningottd> k 08:01:01 <Stablean> <OG Matautas> and mine rating is like 70%+ 08:01:07 <Stablean> <OG Matautas> ur 50- 08:01:14 <Stablean> <OG Matautas> and they doesnt grow 08:01:35 <Stablean> <learningottd> uhm which ones? 08:01:41 <Stablean> <learningottd> think henri added oil 08:01:57 <Stablean> <OG Matautas> #63 08:02:43 <Stablean> <learningottd> uhm 08:02:49 <Stablean> <OG Matautas> and 1 more 08:03:09 <Stablean> <OG Matautas> frinfighill city sidings 08:04:05 <Stablean> <learningottd> can you make a sign? :p 08:04:07 <Stablean> <learningottd> i just dont find it 08:04:15 <Stablean> <OG Matautas> ive checked the staions 08:04:21 <Stablean> <OG Matautas> and i dont see oil in them 08:04:25 <Stablean> <OG Matautas> i mean oil trains 08:04:33 <Stablean> <learningottd> i dont think i transport oil at all :p 08:04:39 <Stablean> <OG Matautas> so my bad i guess 08:04:43 <Stablean> <OG Matautas> yes 08:04:46 <Stablean> <OG Matautas> u have ships xd 08:05:12 <Stablean> <learningottd> aaah lol 08:06:10 <Stablean> <learningottd> cool ships 08:06:25 <Stablean> <OG Matautas> wow 08:06:28 <Stablean> <OG Matautas> they make profit 08:08:58 <Stablean> *** Player has joined spectators 08:10:06 <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (leaving) 08:22:42 <Stablean> *** learningottd has left the game (leaving) 08:30:13 <Stablean> *** OG Matautas has left the game (leaving) 08:30:13 <Stablean> *** Game paused (number of players) 09:32:17 <Stablean> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 09:32:18 <Stablean> *** Henri joined the game 09:32:19 <Stablean> <Henri> woot its still here:P 09:37:15 <Stablean> <Henri> any admin online? 09:37:58 *** KenjiE20 has joined #openttdcoop.stable 09:37:58 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o KenjiE20 09:39:51 <Stablean> *** Henri has left the game (leaving) 09:39:51 <Stablean> *** Game paused (number of players) 10:24:09 <Stablean> *** * joined the game 10:31:16 <Stablean> *** V453000 joined the game 10:31:46 <Stablean> *** Game paused (number of players) 10:31:51 <Stablean> *** * joined the game 10:31:51 <Stablean> *** V453000 joined the game 10:31:54 <Stablean> <V453000> fawk 10:32:08 <Stablean> *** Game paused (number of players) 10:32:12 <Stablean> *** * joined the game 10:32:14 <Stablean> *** V453000 joined the game 10:32:16 <Stablean> <V453000> wtf 10:32:22 <Stablean> <*> lol 10:32:58 <Stablean> *** * has left the game (leaving) 10:33:22 <Stablean> *** Game paused (number of players) 10:33:49 <Stablean> *** V453000 joined the game 10:33:56 <Stablean> <V453000> just wtf! 10:34:42 <Stablean> *** Game paused (number of players) 10:34:49 <Stablean> *** V453000 joined the game 10:34:51 <V453000> Ammler? 10:35:12 <Ammler> V453000: ! 10:35:13 <V453000> I !getsave d from blog upload and it loads the starting screen :( 10:35:27 <Ammler> with newgrfs? 10:35:29 <V453000> yes 10:35:31 <Ammler> !content 10:35:45 <V453000> well it is the menu screen 10:35:48 <V453000> so there isn any 10:35:56 <V453000> loaded atm 10:36:59 <Stablean> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving) 10:40:37 <Stablean> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 10:40:37 <Stablean> *** learningottd joined the game 10:40:53 <Stablean> <learningottd> lulz 10:40:55 <Stablean> *** learningottd has left the game (desync error) 10:40:55 <Stablean> *** Game paused (number of players) 10:41:12 <V453000> oh :D 10:41:31 *** learningottd has joined #openttdcoop.stable 10:41:38 <V453000> hi :) 10:41:41 <learningottd> heya 10:41:46 <learningottd> nice station you built :) 10:41:55 <V453000> im trying to load a game with a few grfs 10:42:01 <V453000> but it is somehow borkd so far 10:42:04 <V453000> hehe thx :) 10:42:06 <learningottd> keke ~~ 10:42:08 <Ammler> sorry, was afk 10:42:18 <Ammler> not afk, but in other channel :-) 10:42:20 <V453000> :) 10:42:23 <planetmaker> V453000: if newgrfs are not found, loading fails and the title screen is loaded 10:42:25 <Ammler> now I am here 10:42:25 <V453000> damn devz :) 10:42:31 <V453000> thanks pm :) 10:42:32 <V453000> cool 10:42:46 <Ammler> you need to know, which grfs are missing? 10:42:57 <V453000> I suspect tropic refurbishment set 10:43:22 <Ammler> or does planetmaker already check? 10:44:52 <Ammler> V453000: bananas wasn't linked to stable 10:44:57 <Ammler> please try again 10:45:05 <V453000> ooh 10:45:29 <Stablean> *** Game paused (number of players) 10:45:42 <Ammler> blame, hmm, yes, planetmaker 10:45:44 <V453000> looks like the same result 10:46:12 <planetmaker> I don't take the blame here :-P 10:46:13 <Ammler> you didn't run !getsave here? 10:46:26 <Ammler> how is the save called? 10:46:50 <Stablean> *** Game paused (number of players) 10:47:04 <V453000> I pmed it to you 10:47:18 <Ammler> [2010-06-06 12:47:02] dbg: [grf] NewGRF 44444040 (data\grf\troprs.grf) not found; checksum BF1E2C572046CF195FCB872624FEB494. Compatibility mode on 10:47:28 <V453000> hmm 10:47:30 <V453000> yea 10:47:46 <Ammler> ah, it needs restart 10:47:59 <Stablean> Server closed down by admin 10:48:03 *** Stablean has quit IRC 10:48:08 <V453000> worked 10:48:12 <V453000> wa :D 10:48:13 <V453000> ok 10:48:23 *** Stablean has joined #openttdcoop.stable 10:48:23 <Stablean> Autopilot engaged 10:48:23 <Stablean> Loading savegame: '#openttdcoop Welcome Stable (www.openttdcoop.org)' 10:48:23 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Stablean 10:48:27 <V453000> :) 10:48:44 <Ammler> !rcon companies 10:48:44 <Stablean> Ammler: #:1(Red) Company Name: 'Brefingley Market Transport' Year Founded: 1980 Money: 505814763 Loan: 100000 Value: 507221154 (T:10, R:13, P:9, S:3) unprotected 10:48:48 <Ammler> right? 10:49:03 <Stablean> *** Game still paused (manual, number of players) 10:49:12 <Ammler> !auto 10:49:13 <Stablean> *** Ammler has enabled autopause mode. 10:49:13 <Stablean> *** V453000 joined the game 10:49:17 <Stablean> <V453000> WAAHAAA 10:49:29 <V453000> success 10:49:59 <V453000> was the issue the grf or did the restart help? 10:50:11 <Ammler> use commands which don't return a lot output in the channel 10:50:19 <Ammler> so others can see, what you did 10:50:33 <V453000> hm ok :) 10:50:41 <Ammler> planetmaker: is there a rescan command? 10:50:58 <Stablean> *** learningottd joined the game 10:51:02 <Ammler> V453000: openttd needed to rescan the bananas grfs 10:51:08 <V453000> the backlog of my attempts isnt shourt at all though :) 10:51:08 <V453000> ok 10:51:08 <V453000> ahh :) 10:51:16 <Ammler> is that possible without restart? 10:51:48 <Stablean> <V453000> have fun learningottd :) looking forward to see what you build this time :) 10:51:55 <Stablean> <learningottd> k this is the game? :p 10:52:01 <Stablean> <V453000> yes 10:52:03 <Stablean> <learningottd> ok cool 10:52:07 <Stablean> <learningottd> just one question though 10:52:25 <Stablean> <learningottd> a train with 9 wagons. how long should curves be? 10:52:27 <V453000> rcon auto 10:52:27 <Stablean> <learningottd> 4 or 5? 10:52:34 <V453000> depends on the wagons :p 10:52:42 <V453000> this set for example has short wagons 10:52:47 <V453000> use lengths in tiles 10:52:55 <Stablean> <learningottd> oki 10:53:03 <V453000> but overall rule is number of tiles = number of tiles for curve 10:53:27 <Stablean> <learningottd> tested out an electric train 160km with 9 wagons. did full speed with 4 tiles. 10:53:39 <V453000> exceptions are for example if you have endlessly long train that goes 160kmh, the 160kmh topspeed is for CL3 10:53:42 <V453000> yeah 10:53:58 <V453000> but for 251 kmh of the trains in this game, you will need full-length of a train 10:54:02 <Stablean> <learningottd> ah ok. so if i stick to electric trains cl3 is only needed? 10:54:08 <Stablean> <learningottd> ah ok 10:54:15 <V453000> if you use TL3 :) 10:54:33 <Stablean> <learningottd> think i might do that. easier to build with smaller cl 10:54:39 <V453000> TL5 isnt a bad idea with this set btw 10:54:57 <Stablean> <learningottd> use smaller wagons? 10:55:08 <V453000> there arent any other than smaller yet :) 10:55:16 <Stablean> <learningottd> oh ok :p 10:55:22 <Stablean> <learningottd> game is paused btw 10:55:27 <V453000> rcon auto 10:55:29 <V453000> !rcon auto 10:55:29 <Stablean> V453000: ERROR: command not found 10:55:34 <V453000> !rcon unpause 10:55:34 <Stablean> *** Game unpaused (manual) 10:55:39 <V453000> !auto 10:55:39 <Stablean> *** V453000 has enabled autopause mode. 10:55:48 <Stablean> <V453000> seems ok 10:55:54 <Ammler> oh, we should update to 1.0.2 10:55:54 <Stablean> <learningottd> now its good :) 10:56:04 <Stablean> <V453000> is it out already? :) 10:56:06 <Stablean> <V453000> good 10:56:12 <Stablean> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving) 10:56:14 <Ammler> well, not now 10:56:19 <V453000> :) ok 10:56:55 <V453000> learningottd: I recommend using 2 trains for TL3 ... you will get 120kmh diesels in ~1year 10:57:16 <Stablean> <learningottd> oki gonna try that 10:57:21 <V453000> these engines are short and you can stuff many wagons there :p 10:57:28 <Ammler> !screen 10:57:30 <Stablean> *** Ammler made screenshot at 00008106: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/stable/webcam/00008106.png 10:57:34 <Ammler> !info 10:57:35 <Stablean> Ammler: www.openttdcoop.org/servers/stable 10:57:54 <V453000> oh and be careful 10:57:56 <V453000> about terraforming 10:57:57 <Ammler> V453000: did you configure BaseCosts? 10:57:59 <V453000> it costs a lot :) 10:58:02 <V453000> Ammler: yes 10:58:04 <Stablean> <learningottd> ya ^^ 10:58:07 <Ammler> or did you use default 10:58:13 <Ammler> ah, it isn't preset 10:58:17 <V453000> I used your default 10:58:25 <V453000> the one on the wiki/basecosts 10:58:44 <V453000> normally I use a bit more extreme numbers :) 10:58:52 <V453000> but didnt want to kill these guys :) 10:58:55 <Ammler> there is a 2nd grf with already configured settings 10:58:59 <V453000> I know 10:58:59 <Ammler> BaseCosts Presets 10:59:09 <Ammler> you can use both at once 10:59:20 <V453000> I still find it a bit more ... reliable? to configure it so I know exactly what I am doing :) 10:59:31 <V453000> ooh 10:59:39 <V453000> well this works for now :) 10:59:42 <Ammler> hmm, not possible to see settings wihtout joining 10:59:50 <V453000> :) 11:00:43 <V453000> 21 12 57 8 11:00:44 <V453000> it is 11:00:58 <V453000> config for raise Terraform (x16), but keep foundations on default: just like you exampled 11:01:18 <PeterT> what are we doing? 11:02:09 <V453000> PeterT: setting up some grfs :) its all fine already 11:02:18 <PeterT> ok cool 11:02:38 <PeterT> I just saw a lot of chat, not much game, so I thought something was wrogn 11:02:41 <PeterT> !newgrf 11:02:41 <Stablean> PeterT: this command can only be used in a private message 11:02:51 <V453000> !url 11:02:51 <Stablean> V453000: www.openttdcoop.org/servers/stable 11:02:53 <V453000> see there 11:02:59 <V453000> but you wont see the parameters :) 11:03:00 <PeterT> ok :-) 11:03:17 <PeterT> !screen 11:03:19 <Stablean> *** PeterT made screenshot at 00003540: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/stable/webcam/00003540.png 11:03:35 <Ammler> !newgrf is a bit useless, since we don't load the cfg 11:03:35 <Stablean> Ammler: this command can only be used in a private message 11:03:41 <Stablean> <learningottd> hooh gonna be a pain to build here :p 11:03:49 <Ammler> expensive TF? 11:03:57 <Stablean> <learningottd> very hilly also ^^ 11:04:08 <V453000> I think it is mountainous /rough 11:04:17 <V453000> one of my favs :) 11:04:30 <Stablean> <learningottd> not gonna try LL_RR just yet -.- 11:04:37 <V453000> :) 11:04:49 <V453000> best is if you upgrade only when and where needed imo :) 11:04:50 <V453000> most fun 11:05:20 <V453000> I even ended with 9x L _ 9xR once with this method :D 11:05:37 <Stablean> <learningottd> cant see this happening with me. but we'll see :) 11:05:49 <V453000> well it seems like too much 11:05:58 <V453000> but you just play, play, play and then it happens itself :d 11:06:10 <Stablean> <learningottd> mhms 11:22:13 *** PeterT has quit IRC 11:22:43 *** PeterT has joined #openttdcoop.stable 11:22:43 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o PeterT 11:24:01 *** PeterT has quit IRC 11:24:53 *** PeterT has joined #openttdcoop.stable 11:24:53 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o PeterT 11:34:11 <Stablean> *** Henri joined the game 11:34:16 <Stablean> <Henri> Hey! 11:34:32 <PeterT> hello 11:36:48 <Stablean> *** Henri has left the game (leaving) 11:38:49 <Stablean> <learningottd> yo 11:53:48 <Stablean> *** Henri joined the game 11:53:51 <Stablean> <Henri> hi 11:53:53 <Stablean> <learningottd> yoyo 11:54:13 <Stablean> <V453000> :) 11:54:16 <Stablean> *** V453000 joined the game 11:54:19 <Stablean> <V453000> just coming to have a look 11:54:27 <Stablean> <learningottd> not done much yet. so hard to build ^_^ 11:54:29 <Stablean> <Henri> im atm not gonna build anything 11:54:43 <Stablean> <Henri> im atm on laptop, no mouse 11:54:57 <Stablean> <learningottd> what you meant with the trains v? 11:54:59 <Stablean> <Henri> why its hard to buuild? 11:55:02 <Stablean> <V453000> learningottd: these trains will hve really bad acceleration :) 11:55:10 <Stablean> <V453000> in time 11:55:14 <Stablean> <learningottd> i need 2locs per train? 11:55:28 <Stablean> <V453000> I believe it will do well 11:55:38 <Stablean> <learningottd> but the length is ok for cl3? 11:55:40 <Stablean> <V453000> depends how you want to play 11:55:44 <Stablean> <Henri> well those seem to have decent power 11:55:46 <Stablean> <V453000> if you have TL3 11:55:54 <Stablean> <learningottd> tl4 i want i guess 11:56:00 <Stablean> <learningottd> a step up from tl3 :) 11:56:06 <Stablean> <V453000> ooh multiplier is 3 11:56:08 <Stablean> <learningottd> tl5 is a little bit too heavy i think 11:56:10 <Stablean> <V453000> fine, nevermind :) 11:56:20 <Stablean> <V453000> TL4 ->CL4 11:56:26 <Stablean> <V453000> its as simple as that :p 11:56:28 <Stablean> <learningottd> you sure? 11:56:31 <Stablean> <V453000> of course :) 11:56:37 <Stablean> <learningottd> these trains do full speed with cl3 11:56:48 <Stablean> <V453000> yes because CL3 allows 160 kmh 11:56:55 <Stablean> <learningottd> ah ok 11:57:01 <Stablean> <V453000> when you reach over 160, they will slow down 11:57:07 <Stablean> <Henri> what u mean as cl and dl? 11:57:15 <Stablean> <learningottd> fine ok. i shuld build with cl4 then ^^ 11:57:17 <Stablean> <V453000> as I said, this trainset has 251 top speed 11:57:24 <Stablean> <learningottd> for electric? 11:57:30 <Stablean> <learningottd> dont care much for mono or maglev 11:57:32 <Stablean> <V453000> and these engines dont have much power at all :) 11:57:35 <Stablean> <V453000> there is no mono nor maglev 11:57:42 <Stablean> <learningottd> nice :D 11:57:48 <Stablean> <learningottd> so with CL4 i should be ok then 11:57:59 <Stablean> <Henri> what u mean as cl:D? 11:58:03 <Stablean> <V453000> most trainsets dont have that, and afaik, no trainset has mono/maglev trains for cargoes, only goods/food/passengers/mail 11:58:06 <Stablean> <learningottd> henri, tl=train length, cl=curve length 11:58:21 <Stablean> <Henri> oh okay 11:58:27 <Stablean> <V453000> learningottd: this trainset has one engine that might interest you though 11:58:33 <Stablean> <learningottd> ok? 11:58:35 <Stablean> <V453000> 160 kmh and superior power 11:58:41 <Stablean> <V453000> coming in ~ 2011 11:58:47 <Stablean> <learningottd> oh long time :p 11:58:53 <Stablean> <V453000> for TL4 it is quite reasonable 11:59:01 <Stablean> <learningottd> but i guess i should try build with tl4 11:59:07 <Stablean> <V453000> well this trainset ends in 2041 ':p 11:59:09 <Stablean> <learningottd> hubs is a bitch though 11:59:09 <Stablean> <learningottd> oO 11:59:16 <Stablean> <V453000> TL4 CL3 is fine 11:59:28 <Stablean> <V453000> and im off :) 11:59:31 <Stablean> <V453000> I will check later 11:59:33 <Stablean> <learningottd> but only with 160km? 11:59:35 <Stablean> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving) 11:59:42 <V453000> have fun :) 11:59:46 <Stablean> <learningottd> keke thanks 11:59:52 <Stablean> <Henri> :P i go eat now 11:59:58 <Stablean> <learningottd> oki henri 12:00:00 <Stablean> <Henri> ill come back later 12:00:07 <Stablean> *** Henri has left the game (leaving) 12:17:23 <planetmaker> should we update to 1.0.2-RC1? 12:19:15 <Stablean> *** Henri joined the game 12:19:19 <Stablean> <Henri> k back now 12:19:41 <Stablean> <Henri> mate u here? 12:21:36 <Stablean> <learningottd> hey 12:21:42 <Stablean> <Henri> :P 12:21:42 <Stablean> <learningottd> had a smoke 12:21:48 <Stablean> <Henri> ok 12:21:56 <Stablean> <Henri> but well 12:21:59 <Stablean> <Henri> i g2g again lol 12:22:05 <Stablean> <learningottd> keke ^^ 12:22:05 <Stablean> <Henri> my bro wants to computer :/ 12:22:17 <Stablean> <learningottd> oki :p 12:22:19 <Stablean> <Henri> in few hours or so, ill come and start helpin 12:22:33 <Stablean> *** Henri has left the game (leaving) 12:22:33 <Stablean> <learningottd> aight cool 12:36:30 <Stablean> *** Henri joined the game 12:36:38 <Stablean> <Henri> back just checking hows it going 12:36:42 <Stablean> <learningottd> keke 12:36:44 <Stablean> <Henri> im soo boored.. 12:36:46 <Stablean> <learningottd> trying to add a sideline 12:38:12 <Stablean> <Henri> gonna go 4 lines today? 12:38:18 <Stablean> <learningottd> no not yet :) 12:38:33 <Stablean> <learningottd> but trying to build the mainline so it can be expanded 12:38:47 <Stablean> <Henri> oky 12:39:05 <Stablean> <Henri> but 12:39:16 <Stablean> <Henri> why nubby diesel trains instead of good steam? 12:39:28 <Stablean> <learningottd> i like them :) 12:39:34 <Stablean> <learningottd> and theyre only temporary 12:39:40 <Stablean> <Henri> ok 12:39:42 <Stablean> <learningottd> will change them all when better trains come ^^ 12:42:12 <Stablean> <learningottd> aight. time to make a hub :) 12:42:20 <Stablean> <Henri> :) 12:42:32 <PeterT> planetmaker: I vote yes 12:42:44 <PeterT> after all, we are a testing server ;-) 12:43:34 <Ammler> I already voted ;-) 12:43:56 <Stablean> <Henri> atm ur building mainline right 12:44:00 <Stablean> <learningottd> yes 12:44:06 <PeterT> how Ammler? 12:44:08 <Stablean> <Henri> k 12:44:14 <Stablean> <learningottd> this is a sideline hub. to connect the farms i just built :) 12:44:37 <Stablean> <Henri> k 12:44:39 <Ammler> [12:55] <Ammler> oh, we should update to 1.0.2 12:45:05 <Stablean> <Henri> oh, yeh 12:45:09 <Stablean> <learningottd> :) 12:46:05 <Stablean> <learningottd> dont need to have it go both ways yet 12:46:21 <Stablean> <learningottd> so this sideline is only for trains going/coming south 12:49:12 <Stablean> <Henri> =D 12:49:41 <planetmaker> I didn't see that, Ammler :-) 12:49:53 <planetmaker> I guess we have a quorum ;-) 12:50:19 <planetmaker> 91% of the votes are cast :-P 12:50:45 <planetmaker> remind me this evening that I update 12:52:02 <Stablean> <learningottd> uhm think you should make one station per goods 12:52:08 <Stablean> <learningottd> like a 2platform for livestock 12:52:14 <Stablean> <learningottd> and 2platform for grain 12:52:14 <Stablean> <Henri> oh, ok 12:52:20 <Ammler> planetmaker: i would wait until current is finished 12:52:24 <Stablean> <learningottd> easier to see where one should add trains ^^ 12:52:55 <PeterT> lol Ammler :-) 12:53:02 <PeterT> @define quorum 12:53:08 <Ammler> current game* 12:53:29 <PeterT> @dict quorum 12:53:31 <Webster> PeterT: wn: quorum n : a gathering of the minimal number of members of an organization to conduct business 12:54:14 <Stablean> <learningottd> like i did st metchester now :p 12:54:30 <Stablean> <Henri> yh 12:54:50 <Stablean> <learningottd> ah yeah like that. nice :) 12:55:01 <Stablean> <Henri> low space 12:55:24 <Stablean> <learningottd> uhm if you like we can remove the coal trains 12:55:27 <Stablean> <learningottd> they was only to make money early 12:55:39 <Stablean> <Henri> na, i like hard building 12:55:47 <Stablean> <learningottd> :) 12:55:47 <Stablean> <Henri> im slow, cause laptop mouse 12:55:59 <Stablean> <learningottd> yeah i use laptop aswell ^^ 12:56:22 <Stablean> <Henri> well im not used to laptop mouse at all 13:00:21 <Stablean> <Henri> wow finally finished.. 13:00:27 <Stablean> <learningottd> gj :) 13:00:49 <Stablean> <learningottd> but uhm.... 13:00:51 <Stablean> <learningottd> :p 13:01:03 <Stablean> <learningottd> if we use train with TL4 13:01:23 <Stablean> <learningottd> we need also curve length 4 13:01:29 <Stablean> <learningottd> but can fix that later :) 13:01:39 <Stablean> <Henri> um, but wasnt it 3? 13:01:45 <Stablean> <Henri> like said before or smth? 13:01:47 <Stablean> <learningottd> if the max speed is 160 13:02:01 <Stablean> <learningottd> but later there will be electric trains with 240km something 13:02:20 <Stablean> <learningottd> but for sidelines i dont think thats important just now 13:02:26 <Stablean> <learningottd> it is easy to fix when we get those trains 13:02:34 <Stablean> <Henri> k 13:02:38 <Stablean> <learningottd> its more important to build mainlines with CL4 13:19:15 <Stablean> <learningottd> electric tracks looks much better than regular tracks 13:19:33 <Stablean> <Henri> i think normal looks better 13:19:41 <Stablean> <Henri> but electric is kinda ndded 13:19:43 <Stablean> <Henri> eeded 13:19:46 <Stablean> <Henri> neededÕ 13:19:48 <Stablean> <learningottd> mhms 13:25:13 <Stablean> <Henri> check farm drop station 13:25:28 <Stablean> <Henri> presignals make jammy there 13:25:30 <Stablean> <learningottd> factory you mean? 13:25:34 <Stablean> <Henri> one path signal would be much better 13:25:36 <Stablean> <Henri> yeh 13:25:39 <Stablean> <learningottd> yeah they are only temporary :p 13:25:47 <Stablean> <Henri> fuck 13:25:53 <Stablean> <learningottd> keke again -._ 13:25:55 <Stablean> <Henri> damn me 13:25:59 <Stablean> <Henri> sorry:D 13:26:05 <Stablean> <learningottd> np :p 13:26:11 <Stablean> <Henri> ill rebuild the trains 13:26:13 <Stablean> <learningottd> just try replace the ones that died :) 13:26:15 <Stablean> <learningottd> nice 13:27:20 <Stablean> <Henri> aww 13:27:50 <Stablean> <learningottd> what? 13:27:56 <Stablean> <Henri> i feel bad 13:27:58 <Stablean> <Henri> cause the crash 13:28:00 <Stablean> <Henri> ;D 13:28:04 <Stablean> <learningottd> its np :p 13:28:18 <Stablean> <Henri> k 13:32:09 <Stablean> <learningottd> going toilet brbz :) 13:32:12 <Stablean> <Henri> k 13:41:47 <Stablean> <learningottd> aight whats new? 13:42:06 <Stablean> <Henri> completed the mainline to coal drop 13:42:20 <Stablean> <Henri> and atm rebuilding the 3 coal mines station 13:42:24 <Stablean> <learningottd> yeah 13:42:32 <Stablean> <learningottd> i need to fix the hub so they can go north also 13:46:47 <Stablean> <Henri> coal done 13:46:57 <Stablean> <learningottd> oki just send em to the plant 13:46:59 <Stablean> <learningottd> hub is done 13:47:03 <Stablean> <Henri> k 13:51:05 <Stablean> <Henri> like this all the splits 13:51:09 <Stablean> <Henri> then its random 13:51:15 <Stablean> <learningottd> oki 13:58:56 <Stablean> <learningottd> it got really big 13:58:58 <Stablean> <learningottd> but it works 13:59:26 <Stablean> <Henri> yh 14:01:05 <Stablean> <Henri> one extremely little problem 14:01:11 <Stablean> <learningottd> what? 14:01:11 <Stablean> <Henri> sign signal cant be put 14:01:21 <Stablean> <learningottd> aah 14:02:33 <Stablean> <learningottd> ok good now :) 14:02:39 <Stablean> <Henri> yp 14:05:03 <Stablean> <Henri> i g2g now 14:05:05 <Stablean> <Henri> cya 14:05:07 <Stablean> <learningottd> ohj ok 14:05:09 <Stablean> <learningottd> later 14:05:12 <Stablean> *** Henri has left the game (leaving) 15:50:42 *** Chris_Booth has joined #openttdcoop.stable 15:50:42 *** Webster sets mode: +o Chris_Booth 15:59:50 <Stablean> *** Chris Booth joined the game 16:00:58 <Stablean> *** Chris Booth has started a new company (#1) 16:01:59 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> what idiot made this map? 16:02:09 <Stablean> <learningottd> not me! 16:02:15 <Stablean> <learningottd> (whats wrong with it?) 16:02:25 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> tropical refurbishment set 16:02:31 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> this is a temperate map 16:02:37 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> so the trains are wank 16:02:41 <Stablean> <learningottd> :p 16:19:30 <Stablean> *** learningottd has left the game (connection lost) 16:24:04 <Stablean> *** learningottd joined the game 16:25:00 *** learningottd has quit IRC 16:29:54 <Stablean> *** learningottd has left the game (connection lost) 16:30:26 <Stablean> *** learningottd joined the game 16:43:53 *** Fixerger has joined #openttdcoop.stable 17:04:55 <Ammler> !screen 17:04:58 <Stablean> *** Ammler made screenshot at 0000420F: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/stable/webcam/0000420F.png 17:04:58 <Ammler> !url 17:04:58 <Stablean> Ammler: www.openttdcoop.org/servers/stable 17:10:32 *** learningottd has joined #openttdcoop.stable 17:27:10 <V453000> Chris Booth: yeah the reason that it is named Tropic Refurbishment, it is acceptable only in tropic 17:27:13 <V453000> ... 17:28:21 <V453000> @dict wank 17:28:23 <Webster> V453000: wn: wank n : slang terms for masturbation [syn: {jacking off}, {jerking off}, {hand job}] v : get sexual gratification through self-stimulation [syn: {masturbate}, {fuck off}, {she-bop}, {jack off}, {jerk off}] 17:28:29 <V453000> lol 17:28:31 <PeterT> haha 17:28:32 <V453000> wtf 17:28:41 <V453000> so the trains are wank 17:28:49 <V453000> cant say I understand this even with dict 17:28:55 <PeterT> lol 17:30:32 <Stablean> *** V453000 joined the game 17:30:33 <Stablean> <V453000> hi 17:30:36 <Stablean> <learningottd> heya 17:31:23 <Stablean> <V453000> how is it 17:31:38 <Stablean> <learningottd> its getting decent 17:31:48 <Stablean> <V453000> :) 17:31:58 <Stablean> <learningottd> have a bunch of primaries now. just need to find somewhere to make main stations 17:32:08 <Stablean> <V453000> :) 17:32:26 <Stablean> <learningottd> atleast my steel area is looking cool 17:34:15 <Stablean> <learningottd> but i dont really know where to build the factory & sawmill area 17:34:29 <Stablean> <V453000> St. Metchester Falls Woods 17:34:36 <Stablean> <V453000> train fucked up 17:34:50 <Stablean> <learningottd> ah yeah :p 17:34:56 <Stablean> <V453000> dont use 2way signals unless you REALLY know how dangerous they are :) 17:35:02 <Stablean> <V453000> on 1way tracks 17:35:20 <Stablean> <learningottd> yeah just forgot those bitchs in st metchester refused me to build 2 platforms ^^ 17:35:26 <Stablean> <V453000> yes sure 17:35:37 <Stablean> <V453000> but 1ways would be ok there 17:35:52 <Stablean> <V453000> and really, 2way signals are needed only in some cases 17:36:00 <Stablean> <learningottd> oh ok 17:36:06 <Stablean> <V453000> talking about stations, almost never 17:36:16 <Stablean> <V453000> it is the feature of 2way eol 17:36:20 <Stablean> <V453000> "end of line" 17:36:23 <Stablean> <learningottd> ah oki 17:36:30 <Stablean> <learningottd> but does it hurt? 17:36:54 <Stablean> <learningottd> i mean like on a bridged mainline, should they always be 1way? 17:37:04 <Stablean> <V453000> ifthe first signal that the train chooses is 2way signal and is red, train will NEVER go that way, it will choose ANY other way, even if it leads nowhere 17:37:22 <Stablean> <V453000> if the choice is Only between those two bridges, it s ok 17:37:30 <Stablean> <learningottd> ah oki ^^ 17:37:38 <Stablean> <V453000> But if you have for example bridges and also a split at the same place, it could get borked 17:37:56 <Stablean> <V453000> it is a really important thing :) easy to get your trains lost 17:38:00 <Stablean> <learningottd> allright 17:38:11 <Stablean> <V453000> for the start: just dont use twoways :) I tried to also give you the reason ;) 17:38:34 <Stablean> <learningottd> just seen saves from public games where you have all exit signals 2way 17:39:12 <Stablean> <V453000> they surely are in correct places 17:39:24 <Stablean> <V453000> and I dont believe we have even most of them 2way :) 17:39:48 <Stablean> <learningottd> not all of them probably. just seen it :) so thought it wasnt a biggie 17:39:52 <Stablean> <learningottd> but now i know 17:39:52 <Stablean> *** Henri joined the game 17:39:56 <Stablean> <Henri> Hey 17:40:04 <Stablean> <learningottd> suå 17:40:06 <Stablean> <learningottd> sup 17:40:16 <Stablean> <Henri> nice lines mate 17:40:30 <Stablean> <learningottd> thanks. getting bigger ^^ 17:40:55 <Stablean> <learningottd> but expand mainline to LL_RR will be a bitch 17:41:45 <Stablean> <Henri> u mean to 4 way right? 17:41:59 <Stablean> <learningottd> uhm 2 each way -.- 17:42:05 <Stablean> <V453000> Plesdingstone Mines -> one of the coal mines isnt transported 17:42:11 <Stablean> <Henri> yh 17:42:58 <Stablean> <V453000> how do you like the trainset? :) 17:43:12 <Stablean> <Henri> its really big 17:43:15 <Stablean> <learningottd> its nice. but waiting for a 200ish electric train 17:43:50 <Stablean> <V453000> should I tell you when? :) 17:43:56 <Stablean> <learningottd> yes :D 17:43:58 <Stablean> <V453000> emm 17:44:00 <Stablean> <V453000> hmm 17:44:02 <Stablean> <V453000> well 17:44:04 <Stablean> <V453000> 2025 17:44:06 <Stablean> <V453000> :P 17:44:09 <Stablean> <learningottd> hohoo 17:44:19 <Stablean> <learningottd> when is the next good train coming? :) 17:44:42 <Stablean> <V453000> I dont remember that one 17:44:50 <Stablean> <V453000> there will be a few better now 17:44:58 <Stablean> <learningottd> goodie 17:45:01 <Stablean> <V453000> 1990s will bring some good ones 17:45:13 <Stablean> <learningottd> the 144 is nice enough though 17:45:15 <Stablean> <V453000> also, there are 4 types of wagons, so trains are getting better 17:45:23 <Stablean> <learningottd> uhm the fastest available now 17:45:43 <Stablean> <V453000> speed isnt that important :( 17:45:45 <Stablean> <V453000> :) 17:45:48 <Stablean> <learningottd> hp? 17:46:04 <Stablean> <V453000> I like good acceleration 17:46:15 <PeterT> @channelstats 17:46:15 <Webster> PeterT: On #openttdcoop.stable there have been 44342 messages, containing 1566280 characters, 267396 words, 2938 smileys, and 1044 frowns; 48 of those messages were ACTIONs. There have been 728 joins, 46 parts, 650 quits, 3 kicks, 499 mode changes, and 19 topic changes. 17:46:17 <Stablean> <V453000> it can completely change how you must build stuff 17:46:19 <Stablean> <Henri> that mean more hp 17:46:29 <Stablean> <V453000> also T.E. 17:46:43 <Stablean> <learningottd> oh ok 17:47:03 <Stablean> <learningottd> aslong as they dont slow down im happy 17:47:21 <Stablean> <V453000> you mean hills? 17:47:29 <Stablean> <learningottd> yeah 17:47:31 <Stablean> <V453000> :) 17:47:53 <Stablean> <V453000> it is fun to play with some hill effects 17:48:07 <Stablean> <learningottd> not with shitty trains that do 50% speed on hills :p 17:48:09 <Stablean> <V453000> like a good distribution of steepness % and weight multipliers 17:48:27 <Stablean> <V453000> I believe the 104kmh electric trains are good enough 17:48:35 <Stablean> <learningottd> cool 17:48:37 <Stablean> <V453000> or you have to use more engines :p 17:49:03 <Stablean> <learningottd> perhaps 17:49:14 <Stablean> <V453000> this set is particularly good basically under any circumstances 17:49:25 <Stablean> <learningottd> sounds good :) 17:49:27 <Stablean> <V453000> because if you want speed, you get 251 in the end too 17:49:33 <Stablean> <learningottd> when is the cargo wagons upgraded? 17:49:52 <Stablean> <V453000> on the other hand, if you want heavy hills and whatever, you get 99kmh, 120 kmh and so on, each can have HUGE power 17:50:01 <Stablean> <V453000> I dont remmeber :) 17:50:04 <Stablean> <V453000> you will see 17:50:18 <Stablean> <learningottd> i can wait. im busy enough building stuff 17:50:26 <Stablean> <V453000> he 17:50:32 <Stablean> <learningottd> making new trains is something i dont have time for yet ;) 17:50:51 <Stablean> <V453000> I always say: it isnt much about the trainset, but whether you want to build and if you have fun building atm :) 17:51:03 <Stablean> <learningottd> yup 17:51:43 <Stablean> <V453000> even toyland can be fun :) 17:51:49 <ODM> toyland! 17:51:49 <Stablean> <learningottd> and its gonna take a while to get done building 17:52:18 <Stablean> <V453000> :) 17:52:24 <Stablean> <V453000> 181! 17:55:55 <Stablean> <Henri> u know the trains are starting to get a little laggy 17:56:15 <Stablean> <learningottd> theres not that much trains yet is there? 17:56:41 <Stablean> <Henri> well i built some where it was needed 17:56:52 <Stablean> <learningottd> yeah its choppy a little bit 17:57:24 <Stablean> <V453000> you dont know what true lag is :) 17:57:46 <Stablean> <learningottd> the one where tkjacobsen built 1k ships it lagged slightly ;) 17:57:48 <Stablean> <V453000> when the vehicles are barely moving for example :p 17:57:58 <Stablean> <V453000> 1k ships? on our server? 17:58:01 <Stablean> <V453000> I doubt that :) 17:58:11 <Stablean> <learningottd> he had a shitload of ships 17:58:13 <Stablean> <learningottd> a couple weeks ago 17:58:15 <Stablean> <V453000> ~200 iirc 17:58:30 <Stablean> <learningottd> 800~ ish maybe. but not lower!! 17:58:40 <Stablean> <V453000> no 17:58:53 <Stablean> <V453000> the limit shouldnt allow him here 17:59:08 <Stablean> <learningottd> you didnt have any limit then ;) 17:59:10 <Stablean> <V453000> well this time I kinda banned everything but trains :) 17:59:26 <Stablean> <learningottd> oh goodie 18:02:25 <Stablean> <learningottd> allright game started. semi afk a bit henri. 18:02:32 <Stablean> <Henri> ok 18:02:36 <Stablean> <Henri> football? 18:02:39 <Stablean> <learningottd> ya 18:02:41 <Stablean> <Henri> american? 18:02:47 <Stablean> <learningottd> norwegian :) 18:02:51 <Stablean> <Henri> oh good 18:02:53 <Stablean> <V453000> bah 18:02:56 <Stablean> <Henri> respect for real football! 18:02:58 <Stablean> <V453000> any football is bad :) 18:02:58 <Stablean> <Henri> :P 18:03:05 <Stablean> <learningottd> sk brann. sk brann! 18:03:11 <Stablean> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving) 18:03:15 <Stablean> <Henri> :D 18:03:28 <Stablean> <learningottd> im a lil bit in and out now 18:03:31 <Stablean> <Henri> ok 18:17:38 <Stablean> <Henri> woot 18:17:58 <Stablean> <Henri> i can now totally make priorities 18:18:01 <Stablean> <learningottd> sup? 18:18:07 <Stablean> <learningottd> you do? :p 18:18:13 <Stablean> <Henri> check woot it works 18:18:15 <Stablean> <Henri> sign 18:18:31 <Stablean> <learningottd> woot woot 18:18:37 <Stablean> <Henri> :P 18:18:59 <Stablean> <learningottd> just have to wait for two trains to come at the same time :p 18:19:10 <Stablean> <Henri> :D 18:20:04 <Stablean> <Henri> ive made it to some other junctions too 18:20:15 <Stablean> <learningottd> ah k 18:20:17 <Stablean> <Henri> the souther sidelines 18:20:47 <Stablean> <learningottd> gosu 18:20:53 <Stablean> <Henri> now making to coal station 18:20:55 <Stablean> <Henri> gosu? 18:21:06 <Stablean> <learningottd> uhm. it means good :D 18:21:14 <Stablean> <Henri> ok 18:30:49 <V453000> god of starcraft universe 18:30:56 <Stablean> <Henri> :D? 18:31:03 <V453000> gosu 18:31:07 <Stablean> <learningottd> zomg bw player? 18:31:13 <V453000> nah 18:31:27 <V453000> just long-time spectator :p 18:31:32 <Stablean> <Henri> what the hell r u talking about?:D? 18:31:45 <V453000> .. 18:31:46 <Stablean> <learningottd> aah keke. TLer? 18:31:52 <Stablean> <learningottd> best game ever made henri 18:31:58 <Stablean> <Henri> uh 18:32:05 <Stablean> <Henri> and it is? 18:32:15 <Stablean> <learningottd> starcraft broodwar 18:32:19 <planetmaker> omfg. I hate this 1347-5p34k 18:32:21 <Stablean> <Henri> um okay 18:32:43 <Stablean> <Henri> hehe 18:33:12 <V453000> planetmaker: that is no 1337 yet :p 18:33:32 <planetmaker> ic, bhtu. 18:34:00 <V453000> big hate to you? :D 18:34:01 <Stablean> *** Henri has left the game (connection lost) 18:34:01 <V453000> bhtu 18:34:08 <planetmaker> but hard to understand :-P 18:34:15 <planetmaker> or hardly if you like 18:34:20 <V453000> :) 18:34:27 <planetmaker> but big hate to me, too :-P 18:34:32 <V453000> :D 18:34:37 <planetmaker> now that you mention it ;-) 18:34:43 <V453000> hehe 18:34:44 <V453000> :) 18:34:47 * V453000 hugs pm 18:35:12 <planetmaker> :-) 18:36:17 <planetmaker> it always reminds me of: http://german-bash.org/11488 18:36:18 <Webster> Title: German-bash.org - Krasse Chat-Zitate/Quotes (IRC + IM) - Zitat #11488 (at german-bash.org) 18:36:36 <planetmaker> last line translates to "you're all completely nuts!" 18:37:21 <V453000> :D okay 18:55:01 <Stablean> <learningottd> keke 18:55:07 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> hello 18:55:13 <Stablean> <learningottd> yo 18:55:22 <V453000> hi 18:55:38 <V453000> Chris Booth: any issues with grf? 18:55:43 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> yeah 18:56:16 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> you used TFR in temerate 18:56:18 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> looks wank 18:56:23 <V453000> which is a huge issue 18:56:24 <V453000> I see 18:56:25 <V453000> really 18:56:26 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> all the sprites are wrong 18:56:30 <V453000> yeah 18:56:32 <V453000> completely 18:57:12 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> its playable 18:57:21 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> but some engines look stupid 18:57:52 <V453000> lol. 18:58:02 <V453000> seriously, this is dumb :) 18:58:10 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> who made the map? 18:58:16 <V453000> me 18:58:27 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> tut tut 18:58:46 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> you also left on some silly things like funding towns in game 18:58:51 <V453000> he 18:58:59 <V453000> that isnt that intentional :) 18:59:19 <V453000> but I think that tropic ref. set works actually best in temperate 18:59:41 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> no it doesnt 19:00:17 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> look at the steamers such as the class 15A 19:00:31 <V453000> that is the long one, right? 19:00:44 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> one of the ugly long ones 19:00:50 <Stablean> *** OG Matautas joined the game 19:00:52 <Stablean> <OG Matautas> ello 19:00:58 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> hello 19:00:59 <V453000> btw I doubt there is Any difference at all in engines 19:01:05 <V453000> only wagons are different in climates 19:01:13 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> then this set it turly ugly 19:01:21 <Stablean> <OG Matautas> small ass map 19:01:26 <V453000> why do I even talk to you ... 19:01:47 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> i dont know you ask yourself that one 19:02:03 <Stablean> *** OG Matautas has started a new company (#3) 19:02:07 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> when is my amazing RV going to be played 19:02:21 <Stablean> <OG Matautas> wow 19:02:23 <Stablean> <OG Matautas> station select 19:05:15 <Stablean> <OG Matautas> wtf 19:05:18 <Stablean> <OG Matautas> so much engines 19:05:30 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> yes its a new grf train set 19:05:35 <Stablean> *** Chris Booth has left the game (connection lost) 19:06:01 <Stablean> *** Chris Booth joined the game 19:06:41 <Chris_Booth> V453000: also you not talking anymore???? 19:06:52 <V453000> ... ? 19:07:11 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> you never said why to talk to me 19:07:21 <V453000> yeah, no reason 19:07:33 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> how nice you are today 19:07:40 <V453000> I just saw your complaint about the grf so I wondered if you have any reason actually 19:07:59 <V453000> but I see that it is more pointless than I expected 19:07:59 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> this set is ugly and in the wrong climate 19:08:07 <V453000> yeah, I know, everything wrong 19:08:16 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> not everything 19:09:17 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> i like the fact you used base cost mod 19:12:32 <Stablean> *** * joined the game 19:13:26 <Stablean> *** Henri joined the game 19:13:29 <Stablean> <OG Matautas> ello 19:13:47 <Stablean> <Henri> hey 19:14:17 <Stablean> <learningottd> tut tut 19:14:47 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> Henri: should you be in learningottd company? 19:14:50 <Stablean> <OG Matautas> they make sound right? 19:14:53 <Stablean> <learningottd> yes 19:14:56 <Stablean> <Henri> yes 19:14:59 <Stablean> <learningottd> yes 19:15:02 <Stablean> <Henri> :D 19:15:08 <Stablean> <Henri> we are co-op 19:15:10 <Stablean> *** Chris Booth has left the game (connection lost) 19:15:18 <Stablean> <OG Matautas> fags :) 19:15:24 <Stablean> <Henri> =D 19:15:26 <Chris_Booth> lol 19:15:28 <Stablean> <learningottd> coop ftw 19:15:35 <Chris_Booth> coop FTW 19:15:41 <Stablean> <Henri> ^^ 19:15:50 <Chris_Booth> if you love coop you should join the real coop server 19:16:05 <Stablean> <Henri> tbh, cant find any better than this 19:16:20 <Stablean> <learningottd> too much coop on public server. + you guys are too gosu 19:17:21 <Chris_Booth> the public server is great 19:18:10 <Stablean> <learningottd> oki maybe some day when i've learnt a little more :) 19:18:49 <Stablean> <learningottd> a 19:18:59 <Stablean> <OG Matautas> is there any model of city growth? 19:19:21 <Stablean> <OG Matautas> and is it anyhow related with transporting? 19:19:27 <Stablean> *** * has left the game (leaving) 19:19:46 <Chris_Booth> OG yes there is 19:19:57 <Stablean> <OG Matautas> where can i find the info? 19:20:14 <Chris_Booth> now not sure where you can find the info 19:20:22 <V453000> @wiki city growing 19:20:24 <Webster> Search results for "city growing" - #openttdcoop Wiki - http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Special:Search?go=Go&search=city%20growing 19:20:27 <Chris_Booth> might find some on www.openttdccop.org 19:20:43 <V453000> hm not much there 19:20:46 <V453000> it is somewhere 19:20:50 <V453000> idk wher 19:20:58 <Chris_Booth> but to get a city to grow you need 5 stations that are well serviced within the paved city area 19:21:00 <Stablean> <OG Matautas> i found something 19:22:12 <Stablean> <OG Matautas> Town growth can be accelerated by loading and unloading at least one item of cargo at five stations within town influence within a two month period. It does not matter which cargos are loaded/unloaded. 19:23:14 <Stablean> <OG Matautas> i will bankrupt 19:23:38 <Stablean> <Henri> aw 19:25:44 <Stablean> *** Chris Booth joined the game 19:26:05 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> finaly i am makeing money 19:26:07 <Stablean> <OG Matautas> booth ur admin? 19:26:16 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> when is suits me 19:26:41 <Stablean> <OG Matautas> is that "yes" ? xd 19:26:50 <Chris_Booth> yes 19:26:52 <V453000> cant you just tell what you need? :) 19:26:59 <Stablean> <OG Matautas> reset my company plz 19:27:10 <Chris_Booth> just let it die 19:27:13 <Stablean> <OG Matautas> cant wait 1 minute 19:27:14 <Chris_Booth> less effort 19:27:22 <Chris_Booth> !client 19:27:28 <Chris_Booth> !players 19:27:30 <Stablean> Chris_Booth: Client 34 (Blue) is Chris Booth, in company 1 (Chris Booth Transport) 19:27:30 <Stablean> Chris_Booth: Client 20 (Yellow) is learningottd, in company 2 (learningottd Transport) 19:27:30 <Stablean> Chris_Booth: Client 26 (Red) is OG Matautas, in company 3 (OG Matautas Transport) 19:27:30 <Stablean> Chris_Booth: Client 32 (Yellow) is Henri, in company 2 (learningottd Transport) 19:27:31 <Stablean> <OG Matautas> u just write /reset nabish_company 19:27:34 <Stablean> <OG Matautas> and i wont have 2 wait xD 19:27:36 <Chris_Booth> !rcon move 26 255 19:27:36 <Stablean> Chris_Booth: *** OG Matautas has joined spectators 19:27:42 <Stablean> *** OG Matautas has started a new company (#4) 19:27:48 <Stablean> <OG Matautas> ye 19:27:49 <Chris_Booth> !companies 19:27:52 <Stablean> Chris_Booth: Company 1 (Blue): Chris Booth Transport 19:27:52 <Stablean> Chris_Booth: Company 2 (Yellow): learningottd Transport 19:27:52 <Stablean> Chris_Booth: Company 3 (Red): OG Matautas Transport 19:27:52 <Stablean> Chris_Booth: Company 4 (Green): Unnamed 19:28:05 <Chris_Booth> !rcon reset_company 3 19:28:05 <Stablean> Chris_Booth: Company deleted. 19:28:09 <V453000> dont you know you can just spectate and create another company :) as you did before deleting 19:28:11 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> happy? 19:28:25 <Stablean> <OG Matautas> naa 19:28:29 <Stablean> <OG Matautas> its still alive 19:28:31 <Stablean> <OG Matautas> poh 19:28:33 <Stablean> <OG Matautas> yes 19:28:35 <Stablean> <OG Matautas> very 19:28:43 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> i just removed it 19:28:47 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> its not alive 19:29:05 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> OG Matautas: to grow towns in this game is more complex than 5 stations 19:29:32 <Stablean> <OG Matautas> i would like to learn 19:29:39 <Stablean> <OG Matautas> the passenger transportation 19:29:50 <Stablean> <OG Matautas> with trains 19:29:53 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> next game i will make a pax map 19:30:07 <Stablean> <Henri> pax map? 19:30:13 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> passenger express map 19:30:19 <Stablean> <Henri> nicee 19:32:05 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> OG Matautas: you can join me if you want to play passengers 19:32:26 <Stablean> <OG Matautas> ok 19:32:33 <V453000> this trainset isnt the best choice for pax indeed :) 19:32:43 <Stablean> <OG Matautas> i dont give a shit 19:33:00 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> thats the password 19:33:10 <Stablean> *** OG Matautas has joined company #1 19:33:28 <Stablean> <Henri> ur gonna co-op`? 19:33:42 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> low capacity 19:33:49 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> we will then grow the towns 19:34:00 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> and build high speed links where needed 19:35:36 <Stablean> <learningottd> need 4 length platforms 19:35:46 <Stablean> <learningottd> else they unload super slow 19:35:49 <Stablean> <Henri> oh yh 19:39:48 <Stablean> <OG Matautas> so much buses 19:40:32 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> no buses 19:40:36 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> just build on my lines 19:55:21 <Stablean> *** learningottd has left the game (leaving) 19:55:42 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> OG Matautas: i got a great trick for you 19:55:45 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> the tree trick 19:55:58 <Stablean> <Henri> everyone knows it:D 19:55:58 <Stablean> <OG Matautas> ya i kno 19:57:36 <Stablean> <OG Matautas> no slow corners right? 19:58:20 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> yeah i hate slow cornerw 19:58:24 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> s 19:58:48 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> try not to spend all the loan 19:59:02 <Stablean> <OG Matautas> *done* 19:59:24 <Stablean> <OG Matautas> this would take ages 19:59:28 <Stablean> <OG Matautas> w/o loan 20:00:04 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> no it wont 20:00:11 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> soon we will have enough trains 20:00:44 <Stablean> <OG Matautas> dso 20:00:49 <Stablean> <OG Matautas> build a new station 20:00:57 <Stablean> <OG Matautas> then make the trains go to it 20:00:59 <Stablean> <OG Matautas> no new trains 20:01:53 *** learningottd has quit IRC 20:03:19 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> you can ask someone to move you into the company 20:03:29 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> or you can have you PW 20:03:39 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> and i can just move myself into it 20:03:56 <Stablean> <OG Matautas> ill remember it 20:06:41 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> sorry i am in 2 games at once 20:06:52 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> you will have my attention soon 20:07:20 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> you dont have to repay yet 20:07:30 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> just make sure we are solvent 20:11:52 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> we need a 5th train now 20:13:50 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> OG Matautas: use CTRL + click when you clone the train 20:14:32 <Stablean> <Henri> well 20:14:38 <Stablean> <Henri> good night, going sleep 20:14:42 <Stablean> <OG Matautas> gn 20:14:50 <Stablean> *** Henri has left the game (leaving) 20:15:23 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> CTRL + click means we share oders so it links the trains 20:15:41 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> this means we only need to change 1 train 20:16:19 <Stablean> <OG Matautas> not to make 1? 20:23:38 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> 5th train 20:23:44 <Stablean> <OG Matautas> ok 20:24:04 <Stablean> <OG Matautas> ill have to write maths tommorow 20:24:09 <Stablean> <OG Matautas> so wont be on for long 20:25:52 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> ok always do your school work befor openttd 20:27:58 <Stablean> *** OG Matautas has left the game (leaving) 20:33:54 *** Fixerger has quit IRC 20:43:19 <Stablean> *** Chris Booth has left the game (connection lost) 20:43:20 <Stablean> *** Game paused (number of players) 20:43:54 <Stablean> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 20:43:57 <Stablean> *** Chris Booth joined the game 21:15:57 <Stablean> *** learningottd joined the game 21:16:04 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> learningottd: you have some nice jams 21:16:10 <Stablean> <learningottd> oh goodie :D 21:16:12 <Stablean> <learningottd> where? 21:16:22 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> you must be able to see both of them 21:16:24 <Stablean> <learningottd> aah 21:16:34 <Stablean> <learningottd> the fuck happened there? 21:16:52 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> you are using 1 set of pre signals to control 1 stations 21:17:24 <Stablean> <learningottd> shouldnt do that? 21:17:29 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> never do that 21:17:39 <Stablean> <learningottd> how should i build it then? :) 21:17:41 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> use PBS to control 2 stations 21:17:45 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> or have 2 entrances 21:18:09 <Stablean> <learningottd> how do you build terminus with 2 stations? 21:18:23 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> have 2 entrances 21:19:01 <Stablean> <learningottd> ok 21:19:31 <Stablean> <learningottd> dont the pre signal stop trains? 21:19:45 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> yes 21:19:55 <Stablean> <learningottd> why does one train enter then? 21:20:05 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> as it has free platforms 21:20:12 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> but not at the station it wants to go to 21:20:22 <Stablean> <learningottd> aaah ok 21:20:32 <Stablean> <learningottd> this terminus only works for 1 station? 21:20:34 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> look at Nanthill East 21:20:36 <Stablean> <learningottd> not ls+grain? 21:20:38 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> yes 21:20:40 <Stablean> <learningottd> keke 21:20:51 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> LS + grain @ Nanthill East 21:21:05 <Stablean> <learningottd> ok sec 21:21:47 <Stablean> <learningottd> ok 21:22:29 <Stablean> <learningottd> does it work with a single advanced signal? 21:23:13 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> that would work 21:23:16 <Stablean> <learningottd> just like that? 21:23:26 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> just like Nanthill East 21:23:46 <Stablean> <learningottd> oki. but uhm want to keep the outer lines as entry+exit 21:23:52 <Stablean> <learningottd> more aesthetically beautiful 21:24:22 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> the same 21:25:36 <Stablean> <learningottd> uhm ok. like so? 21:25:47 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> like so 21:25:53 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> no no 21:25:55 <Stablean> <learningottd> cheers man 21:26:01 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> 2 way advanced 21:26:07 <Stablean> <learningottd> aah 21:26:33 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> 1 way at entrance 21:26:39 <Stablean> <learningottd> yeah ok 21:26:49 <Stablean> <learningottd> whats the difference between advanced signals and pre signals? 21:26:52 <Stablean> <learningottd> or i mean 21:27:00 <Stablean> <learningottd> in what situations are one superior over another? 21:27:16 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> no one signal is better than another 21:27:24 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> for normal rails block signals rule 21:27:31 <Stablean> <learningottd> yup 21:27:37 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> for logic pre signals rule 21:27:45 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> for mergers pre signals rule 21:27:54 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> for stations play it safe and use PBS 21:28:03 <Stablean> <learningottd> ah ok 21:28:10 <Stablean> <learningottd> jams wont happen with em? 21:28:20 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> or you could go for some rather amazing pre signals which are much hard to use 21:28:30 <Stablean> <learningottd> im not that amazing i think 21:28:42 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> PBS/advanced signals will only send trains to a platform they want to go to 21:28:53 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> not at an empty block 21:29:07 <Stablean> <learningottd> oh ok 21:29:50 <Stablean> <learningottd> then i learnt something today also 21:30:05 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> check !1 in sign list 21:30:19 <Stablean> <learningottd> henri made those. dont really know how they work 21:30:30 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> ok they are priors 21:30:34 <Stablean> <learningottd> err i mean 21:30:40 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> and they should be block only 21:30:42 <Stablean> <learningottd> i know what they do, but not sure how to build them 21:30:58 <Stablean> <learningottd> yeah he used pbs 21:32:27 <Stablean> <learningottd> combo 21:33:32 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> so the combo will block the entrance as the build up from a distance 21:33:39 <Chris_Booth> !players 21:33:41 <Stablean> Chris_Booth: Client 36 (Blue) is Chris Booth, in company 1 (Chris Booth Transport) 21:33:42 <Stablean> Chris_Booth: Client 38 (Yellow) is learningottd, in company 2 (learningottd Transport) 21:33:44 <Chris_Booth> !companies 21:33:46 <Stablean> Chris_Booth: Company 1 (Blue): Chris Booth Transport 21:33:46 <Stablean> Chris_Booth: Company 2 (Yellow): learningottd Transport 21:33:51 <Chris_Booth> !rcon move 36 2 21:33:51 <Stablean> Chris_Booth: *** Chris Booth has joined company #2 21:33:56 <Stablean> <learningottd> how do you decide what distance? 21:34:30 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> ok distance is the acceleration of 1 train 21:34:45 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> from 0 - top speed in tiles 21:34:55 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> + maximum signal gap of your network 21:34:57 <Stablean> <learningottd> mhms 21:35:19 <Stablean> *** Chris Booth has joined company #1 21:35:27 <Stablean> <learningottd> so the prio on the mainline starts with and exit signal, then combo 21:35:33 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> so if you look at what i built it will work much better 21:35:40 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> yes 21:35:50 <Stablean> <learningottd> theres just one way to build it? 21:36:01 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> nope you can use all combos 21:36:07 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> you can use PBS 21:37:00 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> see my adavanced prior 21:38:03 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> lots of reading for you 21:38:06 <Stablean> <learningottd> yah :p 21:38:14 <Stablean> <learningottd> uhm 21:38:34 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> you combos in the prior always face oppersite to track direction 21:38:48 <Stablean> <learningottd> aaah 21:38:50 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> they are not 2 way combo signals 21:39:00 <Stablean> <learningottd> so before the prio starts 21:39:10 <Stablean> <learningottd> you have first 2way exit, then 2way combo 21:39:17 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> you dont have to have them 21:39:23 <Stablean> <learningottd> then on prio blocks you have them go opposite way 21:39:54 *** Fixerger has joined #openttdcoop.stable 21:40:07 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> check !the same 21:40:13 <Stablean> <learningottd> yup 21:40:19 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> they do the same but use different signals 21:40:33 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> the exit + combo just extends the prior 21:40:47 <Stablean> <learningottd> oh ok 21:40:57 <Stablean> <learningottd> so it just depends how much prio the mainline should have 21:41:03 *** Fixerger has quit IRC 21:41:28 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> depends on terrain ML room and length 21:41:50 <Stablean> <learningottd> you just have to look at the flow of the merger and see how big you want it? 21:42:00 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> yeah 21:42:18 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> if the merge has no traffic but ML has a jam you need a prior 21:42:29 <Stablean> <learningottd> k 21:42:45 <Stablean> <learningottd> but these different examples 21:42:56 <Stablean> <learningottd> its like whatever which one i use? 21:43:11 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> they all do the same 21:43:28 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> the pre signal one is more expanable 21:43:34 <Stablean> <learningottd> so the advanced prio is arguably the easiest to remember? :p 21:44:41 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> check my bridge prior 21:45:05 <Stablean> <learningottd> when they join after a bridge you mean? 21:45:11 <Stablean> <learningottd> oh no 21:45:13 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> yes 21:45:17 <Stablean> <learningottd> k 21:46:04 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> if you look its a working example 21:46:38 <Stablean> <learningottd> hmm ok 21:47:17 <Stablean> <learningottd> so just like that 21:47:33 <Stablean> <learningottd> is it better to do it where all lines meet? 21:48:07 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> ok the priors work best when you use the ML idea 21:48:13 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> where all train run on the ML 21:48:24 <Stablean> <learningottd> yeah not necessary where low traffic 21:48:28 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> drop access the ML directly via MSH (main station hubs) 21:48:42 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> MLs cross using BBHs(back bone hubs) 21:48:52 <Stablean> <learningottd> ya 21:48:54 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> and all primaries join via SLHs(side line hubs) 21:49:02 <Stablean> <learningottd> yeah i know the hierarchy ^^ 21:49:10 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> this mean the ML flows is much greater than SLH entrance flow 21:49:24 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> you dont want to stop the ML as it will jam 21:49:42 <Stablean> <learningottd> mhm 21:49:42 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> so you force joining trains to wait for a gap big enough for them on the ML 21:49:58 <Stablean> <learningottd> yeah 21:50:08 <Stablean> <learningottd> and the gap you just have to look at and find out how much traffic etc 21:50:24 <Stablean> <learningottd> uhm can i build a prio like so? 21:50:38 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> the gap is determind by the distance it take to train to reach full speed 21:52:54 <Stablean> <learningottd> aah 21:53:05 <Stablean> <learningottd> think i got the concept now 21:53:24 <Stablean> <learningottd> whenever he hits the track going to the prio 21:53:30 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> you also have some bad signals i signed for you 21:53:36 <Stablean> <learningottd> the sideline entry turns red 21:53:39 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> yes 21:54:02 <Stablean> <learningottd> or the first signal before it meets the prio track 21:54:34 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> when it enters the block signal befor the prior 21:54:40 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> yes that signal 21:54:46 <Stablean> <learningottd> k nice :) 21:54:57 <Stablean> <learningottd> hard to read about it, easier when explained ingame :) thanks 21:55:09 <Stablean> <learningottd> ok so never block after a exit right before a bridge? 21:55:24 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> you should dive into our wiki wiki.openttcoop.org 21:55:30 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> has all of this documented on it 21:55:36 <Stablean> <learningottd> yeah i read a bunch there 21:55:50 <Stablean> <learningottd> but most seems kinda old 21:55:52 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> never block befor the bridge 21:55:58 <Stablean> <learningottd> and very few graphical examples 21:56:04 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> most is kinda old 21:56:08 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> but some is upto date 21:56:34 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> blog is more upto date but much more advanced 21:56:40 <Stablean> <learningottd> ya 21:56:46 <Stablean> <learningottd> uhm the !signal me 21:56:52 <Stablean> <learningottd> only block signals closer right? 21:57:34 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> yeah make sure you have the same minimum and max signal gap 21:59:02 <Stablean> <learningottd> i know you dont want more than 2 21:59:17 <Stablean> <learningottd> but is it bad in areas like these to just make a couple 1gaps signals? 21:59:27 <Stablean> <learningottd> next to splits i mean 22:00:13 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> better to have gap of 1 the gap of 3 22:00:23 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> standard gap of 2 is best 22:00:45 <Stablean> <learningottd> uhm i mean when i f.ex have ctrl clicked a whole strech of block signals 22:00:45 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> but you networks signal gap is = to the longest signal gap on the network 22:01:11 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> always make sure junstions have signals all arround them 22:01:21 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> unless you want to have a train trap 22:01:23 <Stablean> <learningottd> yeah but does it hurt to have 1gap? 22:01:25 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> but that is much more complex 22:01:42 <Stablean> <learningottd> 1gap for 2 block signals 22:01:48 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> to have a smaller gap no it does 22:01:54 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> to have a larger gap yes 22:01:56 <Stablean> <learningottd> and the rest is ctrl+clicked a fair bit 22:02:14 <Stablean> <learningottd> yeah im trying to watch out for it 22:02:16 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> yeah 22:02:36 <Stablean> <learningottd> ok cool now ive understood prios 22:02:50 <Stablean> <learningottd> but one thing i didnt get the last game, when i tried to make LL_RR 22:03:04 <Stablean> <learningottd> it was insanely hard to get both RR or both LL balanced 22:03:22 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> aah that is to do with entrance distances 22:03:33 <Stablean> <learningottd> they have to be exact? 22:03:43 <Stablean> <learningottd> uhm wheres a nice flat land area? :p 22:04:32 <Stablean> <learningottd> uhm sign hello hi 22:04:36 <Stablean> <learningottd> i make noob hubs though but 22:05:55 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> ok that is an easy SL to LL_RR join 22:05:58 <Stablean> <learningottd> so uhm kinda like this 22:06:04 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> you cache SL trains 22:06:42 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> whats this? 22:06:54 <Stablean> <learningottd> uhm 22:07:00 <Stablean> <learningottd> trying to make an example 22:07:08 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> i have made an example 22:07:22 <Stablean> <learningottd> ah i made an also but k :p 22:07:44 <Stablean> <learningottd> aah 22:07:50 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> hello hi is very wrong 22:08:01 <Stablean> <learningottd> yeah figures :p 22:08:07 <Stablean> <learningottd> like i said. nooby hubs ^^ 22:08:40 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> what i dont understand is how what i made any more complex than yours? 22:08:46 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> if anything mine is more simple! 22:08:48 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> its smaller 22:08:52 <Stablean> <learningottd> yeah 22:08:56 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> so will fit more easyly 22:09:06 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> and has very simple signals 22:09:32 <Stablean> <learningottd> yeah but isnt there situations where you wanna split the SL further away and have one split to each ml track? 22:09:35 <Stablean> <learningottd> or is that useless? 22:10:05 <Stablean> <learningottd> i guess if i use prios this is just as good ^^ 22:10:56 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> well you always want to make the SL split = to N*(Train Length) 22:11:06 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> so 1 2 3 4 5 time the trains 22:11:52 <Stablean> <learningottd> hmm maybe i have overcomplicated the process in my head 22:12:38 <Stablean> <learningottd> what happens without prios with this? 22:12:46 <Stablean> <learningottd> it just slows the mainline a bunch? 22:12:57 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> only if the main line is busy 22:13:20 <Stablean> <learningottd> mhms 22:15:38 <Stablean> <learningottd> 123 22:16:09 <Stablean> <learningottd> kek 22:17:15 <Stablean> <learningottd> guess its gonna take a while before the logic behind signaling + prios sinks in 22:17:41 <Stablean> <learningottd> before bridges and tunnels on ml, i can just use pbs always? 22:17:55 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> yes best way 22:18:02 <Stablean> <learningottd> ah oki 22:19:36 <Stablean> <learningottd> but with pbs before bridge 22:19:42 <Stablean> <learningottd> i shouldnt have block before bridge? 22:19:48 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> no 22:20:07 <Stablean> <learningottd> aight 22:20:22 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> only after 22:20:25 <Stablean> <learningottd> so that each trains takes the next than the other one 22:20:28 <Stablean> <learningottd> if very busy line 22:20:43 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> yes 22:21:16 <Stablean> <learningottd> so uhm did i forget anything now? 22:23:45 <Stablean> <learningottd> same works for an exit, but without prio? 22:24:13 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> yes 22:24:34 <Stablean> <learningottd> i think making hubs just got a tad bit easier 22:25:54 <Stablean> <learningottd> hms 22:26:37 <Stablean> <learningottd> need a smoke then i can maybe see if i learnt something and built a LL RR hub with prios ;) 22:29:40 <Stablean> *** Chris Booth has left the game (connection lost) 22:40:59 *** PeterT is now known as PeterT-ghost 22:41:21 *** PeterT-ghost is now known as PeterT 22:52:13 *** ODM has quit IRC 23:02:42 *** ^Spike^ has quit IRC 23:13:44 <Stablean> *** 0zlw joined the game 23:19:42 *** Devedse has joined #openttdcoop.stable 23:21:18 <Stablean> *** learningottd has left the game (leaving) 23:21:20 <Stablean> *** Game paused (number of players) 23:22:12 <Stablean> *** 0zlw has left the game (leaving) 23:30:31 *** Devedse has quit IRC