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Log for #openttdcoop.stable on 27th May 2011:
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00:20:46  <Stablean> <Anson> hallo
00:20:48  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Hi
00:21:59  <Stablean> <Anson> hehe, i had to go AFK after building  my transport routes :-) did you see them ? made a profit of 500k $ since afternoon :-)
00:22:10  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :P
00:23:00  <Stablean> <Anson> 25 carriages for diamonds and 15 for gold ... cheaper and faster than trucks
00:23:24  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Well trucks are nice and fast now :)
00:23:30  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Well only 45mph but still
00:23:39  <Stablean> <Anson> and even now they are still at 67% diamonds and 48% gold (with 750 tns waiting :-)
00:25:03  <Stablean> <Anson> i see a truck with speed 64
00:25:13  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> thats in km/h
00:25:20  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> I do mph :)
00:25:30  <Stablean> <Anson> probably 64 km/h = 48 mph ?
00:25:42  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Well 45mph is the fastest i have here
00:25:52  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> So im guessing 64 = 45
00:26:27  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> RV LIMIT!!!
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01:06:16  <Stablean> <Anson> hallo, i'm back after a crash of openTTD
01:06:22  <Stablean> <md> yea that was weird
01:06:46  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Never had a crash apart from not having right gfx set etc
01:06:56  <Stablean> <Anson> i clicked on "replace cars in this depot" --> assertin error
01:07:53  <Stablean> <Anson> assertion failed in autoreplace_cmd.cpp : "v -> IsStoppedInDepot()"
01:08:02  <Stablean> <md> heh
01:08:17  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> weird
01:09:05  <Stablean> <Anson> maybe a car just entered the depot or left it, and thus it was not completely in the depot when the aitorould happen ?
01:09:47  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Could be but i dont think the replace order would go through in that case
01:09:57  <Stablean> <Anson> hehe, once someone showed me his latest program, told me that he just had removed the last bug and i should try it ... i start the prog and my windows gets a blue screen :-) LOL
01:10:19  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Lol
01:10:46  <Stablean> <Anson> that's when i invented the saying "give me a program with one bug, and i find them both" :-)
01:10:58  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :P
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01:12:08  <Stablean> <Anson> ok, trying the replacement again now :-)
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01:15:08  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Gonna go now BB
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01:15:38  <Stablean> <Anson> where is the option for replacement ? the same as "autorenew" ? (concerning minimum money, etc)
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02:55:49  <Stablean> <Anson> i just had problems with truck stations and the length of different trucks :-( is thre anyplace with info about that ?
02:57:27  <Stablean> <Anson> it seems as if standard trucks have length 1/2, thus 2 halflength trucks are services by a normal truck station, but longer trucks don't fit, and i need pass-through stations for them
02:57:45  <Stablean> <Anson> and for some of them, i need even more that one tile ?
02:59:55  <Stablean> <Anson> just did an experiment with lengths: 1-tile-stations can service 1 hereford bull truck, 2 can service 3, 3 can service 4, and 4 can service 6, BUT ...
03:00:43  <Stablean> <Anson> BUT ... possible bug .... when 4 stations in a row service 6 trucks, only #1 to #4 and #6 are serviced, leaving #5 empty
03:01:07  <Stablean> <md> curiou
03:01:09  <Stablean> <md> s
03:01:57  <Stablean> <Anson> if you want to have a look at that, look at sign "the 5th truck"
03:03:25  <Stablean> <Anson> ready to watch ? ... then i release 6+ trucks from depot ...
03:03:41  <Stablean> <md> ok
03:04:48  <Stablean> <Anson> 5th is skipped for loading ... when the first 4 advance, he advances to front position
03:06:16  <Stablean> <Anson> hehe, now it took him too long to wait and he skipped the waiting trucks by himself
03:07:10  <Stablean> <Anson> and now the whole queue is messed up ... it has waiting trucks in the wrong order, filled trucks between the others, etc
03:07:28  <Stablean> <md> you should make a movie
04:08:48  <Stablean> <Anson> md, where can i see the length of trucks and trains and wagons, etc ?
04:09:06  <Stablean> <md> depot?
04:09:20  <Stablean> <Anson> the current 1.1.1 RC1 has improved the display in depots, giving one decomal for train lengths
04:09:26  <Stablean> <md> yes
04:09:28  <Stablean> <Anson> but not for trucks
04:09:42  <Stablean> <md> o
04:09:42  <Stablean> <md> no idea
04:10:00  <Stablean> <Anson> probably only in the source of the GRFs etc !?
04:10:51  <Stablean> <Anson> my guess would be that my truck has length 0.6 and thus 5 x 0.6 = 3 creates the problem
04:11:26  <Stablean> <Anson> this could further be tested at station spread 7 and 8 ... but the current limit is 7
04:12:00  <Stablean> <Anson> 7 stations service 10 trucks, but 11 x 0.6 = 6.6 < 7 --> 11 should be served probably
04:12:31  <Stablean> <Anson> would need to see whether the 8th station services truck #12 and #11 is skipped, just like #5
04:13:07  <Stablean> <Anson> some rounding problem with non-standard truck lengths .....
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04:21:15  <Stablean> <md> wish there was a way to quickly setup conditional orders .. maybe a "copy line" feature
04:23:31  <Stablean> <Anson> what do you mean ?
04:23:41  <Stablean> <md> have you ever created conditional orders?
04:24:01  <Stablean> <Anson> hehe, i started using them a lot with trucks
04:24:09  <Stablean> <md> it's a lot of typing and mousing!
04:24:29  <Stablean> <Anson> very useful also with some GRFs where trains can't unload temporarily and should stay in an overflow
04:25:23  <Stablean> <md> well isn't it a pain to put the same conditional jump in 10 times?
04:25:34  <Stablean> <Anson> i didn't find it complicated, besides a known bug which can set off a linecount by 1 when deleting another line
04:25:50  <Stablean> <md> it's not complicated ... it's _tedious_
04:26:26  <Stablean> <Anson> hehe, that's true ... doing the same 10 times is a pain, but most of the time, the jump destination is relative, and thus the line is not exactly the same
04:26:48  <Stablean> <md> i'm using absoulte jumps so i'm happy it gets adjusted
04:27:14  <Stablean> <md> basically i  set it up so that when my trains get mostly full they go express to the end
04:27:48  <Stablean> <Anson> try a jump to line 1, delete line 1, and the jump now will pount to line 2 ... something like that hapened on the old version
04:28:07  <Stablean> <md> eh
04:28:13  <Stablean> <md> line 1 is gone though so yea
04:28:55  <Stablean> <Anson> yes, the OLD line 1 is gone ... but the jump is adjusted to point t the NEW line 2, and not the old line 2 (= new line 1)
04:29:19  <Stablean> <Anson> i think that was mentioned in the history or some other bug report already
04:29:29  <Stablean> <md> ah
04:30:35  <Stablean> <Anson> when you change your destination and first delete the old destination and then want to add the new one ... you will have problems adjusting all jumps :-)
04:30:53  <Stablean> <md> i'm going to solve that by not adding any more :)
04:31:07  <Stablean> <md> but yea -- conditional orders interface needs work
04:31:13  <Stablean> <Anson> always stay on the safe side and first add the new destination behind the old one, and then remove the old one, hoping that all jumps are adjusted correctly
04:32:28  <Stablean> <Anson> hehe, let's ask for some variables too, and more complex condistionals
04:32:38  <Stablean> <md> hells yea
04:33:16  <Stablean> <Anson> maybe we even can write a "hello, world" program as command, or implement the whole logic of the currently complex track-logic into a single train :-)
04:34:38  <Stablean> <Anson> i already thought about writing such complex conditional orders ... but with the current interface it's a pain, and most of all you would need to cut&paste such orders to new trains in another game too
04:35:08  <Stablean> <md> need a proper editor :)
04:36:02  <Stablean> <md> this trick with express trains seems to work nicely though
04:36:32  <Stablean> <Anson> i heard of a logic-train as GRF file ... but no idea how that one works, besides being very fast
04:36:48  <Stablean> <md> let's you implement logical gates using trains
04:36:50  <Stablean> <md> and signal networks
04:37:17  <Stablean> <Anson> i read some blogs and wiki about logic, etc
04:38:00  <Stablean> <Anson> but what does the logic-train GRF do ? only provide a very fast train to hurry from one signal to another, so that logi propagates fast ?
04:38:07  <Stablean> <md> i think so
04:39:01  <Stablean> <Anson> would need to be a very fast train, weight almost zero, and not much traction so that people don't use it for passenger transport
04:39:16  <Stablean> <Anson> it would almost beam people from one station to another :-)
04:39:18  <Stablean> <md> last time i saw it in game someone was using it to cheat
04:41:00  <Stablean> <Anson> with a weightless engine, there shouldn't be much traction needed to accelerate ... and it would be unusable for real trains
04:42:39  <Stablean> <Anson> i have setup a test for the station problem ... with lots of signs added :-)
04:43:09  <Stablean> <Anson> if you want to take a screenshot, or save the game to see it later offline, now would be a good moment to screenshot or save it :-)
04:43:20  <Stablean> <md> ?
04:44:31  <Stablean> <Anson> you remember the "how many trucks can be serviced" problem from earlier ?
04:45:18  <Stablean> <Anson> i set up a queue of 7 tiles to test ... will save the game now and later test offline with other trucks etc (and the money cheat :-)
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11:04:43  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Hi
11:04:59  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> hi
11:06:48  <Stablean> <Anson> hallo
11:07:29  <Stablean> <Anson> did you notice my signs and the problem i tried to reproduce ?
11:07:41  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> no
11:08:21  <Stablean> <Anson> i think i found a small bug with larger truck stations and unusual truck lengths
11:09:34  <Stablean> <Anson> when a truck has a length of 0.6 tiles (my guess), and you set up 4+ truck stations in a row, it serves 6+ trucks, but the 5th truck will just sit there and do nothing
11:10:37  <Stablean> <Anson> my station "test" was built to test that ... with lots of labels to ocument it :-)
11:10:45  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> well if truck 5 is sitting in the middle of 2 stations it will not get serviced
11:11:33  <Stablean> <V453000> hi
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11:11:39  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> hi V453000
11:11:41  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Hi
11:11:43  <Stablean> <Anson> 1 station serves 1 truck, 2 serve 3, 3 serve 4, 4 serve 6 EXCEPT for the fifth (only 1,2,3,4,6 are served
11:11:49  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> V raise RV limit PLEASE :)
11:12:17  <Stablean> <Anson> hallo, V
11:12:35  <Stablean> <Anson> does anybody know where i can look up the exact length of trucks ?
11:12:45  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> yes they sit at the in the middle of 2 stations
11:12:48  <Stablean> <V453000> no but I do not understand your problem
11:12:54  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> ^
11:12:56  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> its not a bug persay
11:13:02  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> I dont get whats going on?
11:13:11  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> but 5th truck should sit where 6th does
11:13:14  <Stablean> <Anson> the latest version of openTTD has the improvement of showing one decimal for train lengths in a depot ... but what about trucks and exact lengths ?
11:13:21  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> but you could report is
11:13:36  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Should truck length matter, its not like you can add wagons...
11:13:42  <Stablean> <V453000> show how it works?
11:14:04  <Stablean> <Anson> my station "test" was used to test it
11:14:40  <Stablean> <V453000> yes, I dont see why would you construct such a long station in the first place, but lets put that aside ... show me how it works?
11:15:16  <Stablean> <Anson> just line up 4+ truck stations, get 6+ trucks of appropriate length (test was with hereford bull) and you see it
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11:16:55  <Stablean> <Anson> ok, bought the trucks .... you see my stationm "test" ?
11:16:59  <Stablean> <V453000> ofc
11:17:17  <Stablean> <Anson> trucks are coming
11:17:27  <Stablean> <Anson> the 5th will not be serviced
11:17:47  <Stablean> <V453000> yes because it isnt in the station
11:18:07  <Stablean> <Anson> it isn't ?
11:18:13  <Stablean> <V453000> no
11:18:29  <Stablean> <V453000> it does not fit inside the 3rd
11:18:59  <Stablean> <V453000> guess your 0.6 is wrong
11:19:11  <Stablean> <Anson> other trucks are served when they are across two tiles
11:19:17  <Stablean> <V453000> could be because vehicle lengths arent 0.1 but 1/16 in minimal
11:19:38  <Stablean> <Anson> the 0.6 is only a guess
11:19:45  <Stablean> <V453000> so quite likely wrong
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11:20:09  <Stablean> <Anson> you see now ? all other trucks are still waiting, but the 5th was only waiting in queue and now left :-)
11:20:37  <Stablean> <V453000> yes
11:21:09  <Stablean> <Anson> and why i built such a station ? ... because i had 25 horse carriages servicing it :-)
11:21:15  <Stablean> <V453000> but 1. I do not see a healthy minded reason why to build this long station, and 2. try to release the 4 in front of him and it should finish
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11:21:21  <Stablean> <V453000> it still is a complete shit
11:21:35  <Stablean> <Anson> horse carriage is too long to fit in a normal station and i needed pass-through stations
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11:22:29  <Stablean> <V453000> yes
11:22:35  <Stablean> <V453000> still no reason to make 1 long array
11:22:50  <Stablean> <Anson> trucks #1 to #4 skipped orders
11:23:08  <Stablean> <Anson> now they are waiting behind #5 which advanced to first station tile
11:23:20  <Stablean> <Anson> and thus #5 is the last of all trucks to be serviced
11:23:58  <Stablean> <V453000> yes
11:24:24  <Stablean> <V453000> similar fail happens even if 5 occupied the station correctly
11:24:44  <Stablean> <V453000> all trucks leave but the last one is still loading - and the newly come trucks stack behind it without going into the station
11:24:54  <Stablean> <V453000> which is basically why it is a crappy station
11:25:40  <Stablean> <Anson> ok, that is correct ... but the trucks switching positions makes an even bigger mess which hardly cleans up by itself
11:26:38  <Stablean> <Anson> my guess is that the truck length makes #5 start or end in a spot which is not serviced although ALL trucks from first to last tile should be serviced
11:26:40  <Stablean> <V453000> that comes from some strange truck lengths and I quite doubt it is going to be fixed as a bug, I would rather recommend building better
11:27:02  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> MrD2DG: I built you a new flat bypass route
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11:27:17  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> HYA Power Plant to MRO Food PLant
11:27:19  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Ooh
11:27:21  <Stablean> <Anson> maybe #11 is not serviced too because of the same problem. but i couldn't see that since that happens between tiles 7 and 8, and max station spread is 7
11:27:31  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> TY I was just thinkign about deleting the odl route to expand train network
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11:27:58  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> V can you increase RV limit please?
11:28:00  <Stablean> <V453000> at least you have one more reason to build more intelligent road stations :)
11:28:20  <Stablean> <V453000> MrD2DG: no
11:28:23  <Stablean> <Anson> with a different truck and a different car length, the same problem might even happen on the second of three trucks in a much smaller station :-) :-(
11:28:26  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Why? :/
11:28:36  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> MrD2DG: you a get around and start another company
11:28:39  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :/
11:28:53  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> 3 companies no way
11:29:06  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> well use your train company for RVs
11:29:26  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Nah its easier to have all RV's under 1 network
11:29:44  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> well that isn't an option
11:29:54  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> I  know :/
11:30:01  <V453000> !rcon set max_roadveh 700
11:30:01  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> then get creative
11:30:03  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> At least 400 V, 300 is tiny :/
11:30:15  <Stablean> <V453000> increased, from the next game RV limit is 100 static
11:30:32  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :D
11:31:05  <Stablean> <V453000> unless you make some _good_ constructions
11:31:17  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :P
11:31:43  <Stablean> <Anson> i like the new display of decimals in the depot which 1.1.1rc1 has now ... but where can i see the exact length of trains and most of all, a decimal for trucks ?
11:32:00  <Stablean> <V453000> nowhere
11:32:18  <Stablean> <Anson> reading some source of GRFs or similar ?
11:32:20  <Stablean> <V453000> or atleast I have no clue where could that be
11:32:29  <Stablean> <V453000> possibly there
11:32:57  <Stablean> <Anson> oh well .. to which GRF does that truck belong ? standard or another ? :-) :-(
11:33:27  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> this is eGRVTS
11:33:34  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> or something like that
11:33:36  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> I think you can delete the old tunnels CB is no RV's are inside
11:35:02  <Stablean> <Anson> a display of truck lengths would also be VERY useful to see in advance which trucks require a pass-through station as stop and which can use a normal truck loading station
11:35:41  <Stablean> <V453000> that is rather simple
11:35:53  <Stablean> <V453000> with trailer = needs pass-through station
11:36:08  <Stablean> <Anson> maybe a future version can show vehicle length of trains and trucks in addition to all the other data (speed, date, price, etc) when buying them in the depot
11:37:10  <Stablean> <V453000> dont tell us, submit it to the devs
11:37:39  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> that is the most I have spent on someone else
11:37:51  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> <3
11:38:10  <Stablean> <V453000> very nice TF
11:38:12  <Stablean> <V453000> very nice
11:38:12  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> I could've done it actually just never though of moving the route there
11:38:22  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> thanks V453000
11:38:29  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I liked the TF aswell
11:38:39  <Stablean> <V453000> retarded RVs
11:38:46  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :'(
11:38:56  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> you need to fix you coal drop MrD2DG
11:39:06  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> RV plan on PSG next time :DD
11:39:10  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Lol
11:39:22  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> I cba to now you wanna do it CB?
11:39:25  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Oh
11:39:41  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> That line is for Iron/Grain/Stock RV's only
11:39:42  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> yes oh
11:39:56  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Dont need coal drop acess
11:39:58  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> ooh ok
11:40:04  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> ;)
11:40:06  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> then doesn't need access
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11:41:18  <Stablean> <Anson> ARGS ... why is my bank gone ? ... pure bad luck ?
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12:24:10  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> MrD2DG couldn't you make your train network under the same company?
12:24:28  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> How to, without bankruptcy?
12:24:53  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> you can't
12:25:11  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Hmm I wonder how much itll cost to buy though
12:25:13  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Onl got 29 mil
12:25:16  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> but would be nice to have only 1 company per person
12:25:26  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Well im for it
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12:25:31  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Asked about it yesterday
12:25:45  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I can give you money
12:25:55  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> £0 :D
12:26:02  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Ill buy a ship then 1 min
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12:27:25  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Done
12:27:43  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Can i tranfer my 32 mill over to you?
12:28:13  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> ?
12:28:21  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> yes
12:28:30  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I will pay it back you you
12:28:32  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> k
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12:29:06  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Hopefully i have enough :D
12:29:28  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> should only be like 2-5 million
12:32:54  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Taking so long :/
12:35:16  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> end of this quater
12:35:32  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> so in june
12:35:36  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Oki
12:37:40  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> now people should be offered
12:37:50  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I got the offer
12:37:52  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> said no
12:37:54  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> How much?
12:37:58  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> 1
12:38:00  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> YEY
12:38:46  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Oh nice groups are transferred
12:38:52  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Didnt have to make new ones
12:39:21  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> you will probably be infront of me now
12:39:34  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :P
12:44:18  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> forgot to stop your ship :P
12:44:25  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Nah i did it :)
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12:46:56  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> darn it you are now earning more than I am
12:47:08  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Lol nice spike in graph :D
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13:53:07  <Stablean> <Anson> hehe, you are pulling at the ends of your tracks to straighten them a bit ? :-)
13:53:18  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Yep :)
13:53:22  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> I like to build neatly
13:53:32  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Looking at some of the rails hurts my eyes :/
13:53:35  <Stablean> <Anson> i just saw it when i was looking for a new bank ... my old bank disappeared :-(
13:53:48  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :o
13:53:59  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> How is your company still alive i see no RV's
13:54:01  <Stablean> <Anson> when i started, the town had two banks
13:54:51  <Stablean> <Anson> then one disappeared, the second too, but a new one was created automatically ... now the town seems to have grown and replaced the bank with another building :-(
13:54:58  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :/
13:55:12  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> You better start scouting quickly then :P
13:55:14  <Stablean> <Anson> i make -26k $ per year, but have 1.5 mio
13:55:46  <Stablean> <Anson> and after one of the banks had disappeard, i had inserted some conditionals in my trucks :-)
13:55:59  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :P
13:56:31  <Stablean> <Anson> goto banktown - if cargo = 0 then start over - goto depot and stop
13:56:44  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Nice, well at least you were prepared
13:56:50  <Stablean> <Anson> thus i had no running costs after the bank was gone
13:57:22  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> I would do that to mine but CBA
13:57:27  <Stablean> <Anson> and by watching the depot (locked in a corner of the screen) i suddenly saw trucks piling up there --> something had gone wrong :-)
13:57:59  <Stablean> <Anson> all those abbrevs ... what is CBA
13:58:09  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Cant be asked :P
13:59:10  <Stablean> <Anson> i think i am lost :-(
13:59:28  <Stablean> <Anson> gold and diamonds are in the eastern half, and most banks are in the west
13:59:30  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Want me to fund a bank? :P
13:59:50  <Stablean> <Anson> what is required to keep a bank alive ?
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14:00:02  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Just regular service i would've thought
14:00:06  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Hi md
14:00:12  <Stablean> <Anson> was it just bad luck that the town has grown and replaced a bank with an appartment building ?
14:00:30  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Probably though i dont really remember anything like that happening before...
14:01:12  <Stablean> <Anson> i had 30 trucks delivering something like 300-400 diamonds/gold per month ... service should have been ok
14:01:18  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> weird...
14:03:42  <Stablean> <Anson> how costly are long distance transports of valuables BY TRUCK ?
14:03:56  <Stablean> <Anson> is it worth it to transport them across half the map ?
14:04:06  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Check cargo payment rates i guess
14:04:12  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> All mine are doing good
14:04:30  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Not to sure about diamonds and if their value rapid falls...
14:05:41  <Stablean> <Anson> revenue from transport might be ok ... cheap trucks and still a lot of money ... but maintenace costs for the roads probably would be insane
14:06:15  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Well my companies combined maintenance is aroudn 100K
14:06:25  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Obviously yours would be a lot less
14:06:43  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> I think its possible providing you have a large enough fleet of RV's
14:07:17  <Stablean> <Anson> i had maybe +65k from delivering valuables, -20k for road service and -15k for running costs
14:07:19  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> If i managed to make a profit in the 12mph days then you definently should
14:07:39  <Stablean> <Anson> with long distance across half the map, maintenance for roads probably would be insane
14:07:41  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Well your income shoudl rise quite a bit
14:08:09  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Feel free to use my roads
14:09:51  <Stablean> <Anson> hehe, ideal solution for me would be to use your roads :-)
14:10:09  <Stablean> <Anson> to Haramachi !?
14:10:43  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> I can do that
14:10:49  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Need a bank aswell i presume? :P
14:11:36  <Stablean> <Anson> hehe, only the bank and to be allowed to use the roads
14:11:51  <Stablean> <Anson> the connection to your roads is minimal work
14:12:05  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> You'll have to make the drop though if i connect my network to the town it can expand over the map
14:13:32  <Stablean> <Anson> i saw the chaos at my town ... buildings around all roads and no more exit from it
14:13:51  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Best thing to do would be seperate the drop from the town
14:14:07  <Stablean> <Anson> how ?
14:14:14  <Stablean> <Anson> drop must be near the bank !?
14:14:20  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> If i make the bank towards the edge
14:14:42  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Wont even let me fund a bank
14:14:46  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Town to small it seems
14:15:02  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Keep getting the 'must be in centre' message
14:15:52  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Komori?
14:16:42  <Stablean> <Anson> doesn't matter to me
14:16:48  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Ok
14:16:53  <Stablean> <Anson> anything would be nice
14:18:18  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Done
14:24:16  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :)
14:27:43  <Stablean> <Anson> i can't place oneway on that small road :-(
14:28:07  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Is it possible to connect to bake without touchign town roads?
14:28:15  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Or that toen will really run wild
14:30:50  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> ?
14:35:22  <Stablean> <Anson> do towns grow along tunnels ?
14:35:37  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Well the do when in town so im sure they will
14:35:45  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Just takes a while
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14:35:53  <Stablean> <tom> hey all
14:35:55  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Hi
14:36:18  <Stablean> <tom> i see you added rails to you company now
14:36:25  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> I merged the companies
14:36:46  <Stablean> <tom> electric rails decent now?
14:37:07  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Sicne ages ago :P
14:37:49  <Stablean> <tom> woah
14:37:51  <Stablean> <tom> alot of trains
14:37:58  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :P
14:38:16  <Stablean> <tom> hmm i have no idea which to use
14:38:37  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Check out the specs and compare :P
14:38:43  <Stablean> <tom> lol trying :P
14:39:17  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Anson, could you delete your roads @ komori for a min and ill show you what i mean
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14:40:03  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> ?
14:40:06  <md_> Chris_Booth: why kill my shinkansen?
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14:40:21  <Chris_Booth> I didn't kill them
14:40:25  <Chris_Booth> just traded them up
14:40:31  <Stablean> <tom> all the electric freight train are slower than the steam ones
14:40:43  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Im using one thats 14mph
14:40:46  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> *140
14:40:48  <md_> i was using it for style ;)
14:40:52  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Seems to be the fastest
14:40:58  <md_> also these turbotrains are low capacity
14:41:16  <md_> japanese town names
14:41:17  <Stablean> <tom> ahh a 160km/h one
14:42:31  <Stablean> <Anson> first truck arrived ... 3k$ ... after a depot and travel time of some years :-)
14:42:41  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :P
14:43:10  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> You're gonna need a lot more trucks
14:43:41  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> You've got loads of mines around you use them :D
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14:44:29  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> you could go to Acela
14:44:37  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> or 500
14:44:41  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Can that do freight?
14:44:47  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> no you MrD2DG
14:44:51  <Stablean> <md> going to 500
14:44:57  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Oh
14:45:37  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> you need 3 wagons
14:45:46  <Stablean> <md> oh one was removed, ugh
14:45:55  <Stablean> <md> guess i'll just kill em all
14:46:17  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> train 111 is correct
14:46:25  <Stablean> <md> i know, but i can't use autoreplace
14:46:38  <Stablean> <md> just sending them all to depot and rebuilding
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14:59:50  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Anson check your RV no 5
15:00:08  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Says it has no orders and is @ my UHA Iron 1 station doing nothing
15:00:53  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Anson?
15:00:59  <Stablean> <Anson> i checked
15:01:09  <Stablean> <Anson> and my truck list has no vehicle #5 ?
15:01:15  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> I mean 6
15:01:55  <Stablean> <Anson> that vehicle was a leftover from demonstrating the "station doesn't service the fifth" problem
15:02:01  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Oh
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15:02:48  <Stablean> <Anson> i had it parked between the signs for easy access to the problematic truck type, then sent to depot (for deletion) and accidentally released together with all others
15:04:33  <Stablean> <Anson> bye bye #6 :-) ... it's gone now
15:04:43  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :P
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15:06:02  <Stablean> <Anson> i hope that your trucks have rear bumpers :-)
15:06:17  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :P I noticed speed differences
15:06:24  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Its a shame articulated trucks cant overtake
15:06:30  <Stablean> <Anson> and that i can keep with any upgrades to speed you do so that my trucks don't slow down yours
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15:07:17  <Stablean> <Anson> 11k$ or 12k $ for one delivery now
15:07:21  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Nice
15:08:16  <Stablean> <Anson> i think i have to start a few more trucks .... mines are only at 16% now
15:08:27  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> More than a few :P
15:08:57  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Your line is longer than any of my RV lines i think and i use lots more RV's
15:09:40  <Stablean> <Anson> for a mine with 80/month, i needed something like 5-6 trucks on the old short distances ...
15:12:55  <Stablean> <Anson> there will be a new armored truck in one year : 96 top speed instead of my currebnt 88, and 50 bags instead of 30 :-)
15:13:21  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Hopefully i can get a big enough flatbed+hopper then goes at least 65mph
15:13:33  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> But I'll probably only go to 55mph :/
15:13:36  <Stablean> <Anson> running costs only 420 instead of 30
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15:13:54  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Well that speed should help a bit
15:14:09  <Stablean> <Anson> i use metric ... my trucks are 88, yours are 72
15:14:47  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> In mph yours are 55 mine are 45 and my food are 55
15:16:03  <Stablean> <Anson> are all those depots along the route neded when i only go via transit ?
15:16:24  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Well for my trucks yes
15:17:14  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Speeds up upgrades
15:17:20  <Stablean> <Anson> without breakdowns, no maintenance is needed ? ... depots only for the commands like "autorenew", "ipgrade", etc ?
15:17:30  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Yep
15:18:10  <Stablean> <Anson> i have put commands in my orders to go to the komori depot after unloading ... that should be good enough ?
15:18:32  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Yeah, you can but some depots on the road if you wish
15:18:46  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Just say where and ill remove one way
15:20:24  <Stablean> <Anson> ah ... new truck is available : 88>96 speed, 30>50 bags, 356>402 running costs ... I'll start to upgrade all trucks now
15:20:34  <V453000> 107kmh are the fastest cargo RVs
15:20:36  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> you sure you dont want depots?
15:20:46  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Whats that in mph?
15:20:56  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> About 75 i think
15:21:05  <V453000> 102*0.7
15:21:09  <V453000> about that?
15:21:23  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Calculator anyone?
15:21:30  <V453000> @alc 107*0.7
15:21:34  <V453000> @calc 107*0.7
15:21:34  <Webster> V453000: 74.9
15:21:38  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Yep
15:21:44  <Stablean> <Anson> real factor would be 1.6 ... but openTTD probably uses some rounding, like 1.5 or something
15:22:14  <V453000> @calc 107*0,62
15:22:18  <V453000> @calc 107*0.62
15:22:18  <Webster> V453000: 66.34
15:22:25  <V453000> more precise
15:23:00  <Stablean> <Anson> @calc 88/55
15:23:00  <V453000> 1kmh = 0,621371192 mph google says
15:23:20  <Stablean> <Anson> that would be the current speed of our vehicles
15:23:22  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Oh
15:23:30  <V453000> try to write @@calc(88/55)
15:23:30  <Webster> V453000: (calc <math expression>) -- Returns the value of the evaluated <math expression>. The syntax is Python syntax; the type of arithmetic is floating point. Floating point arithmetic is used in order to prevent a user from being able to crash to the bot with something like '10**10**10**10'. One consequence is that large values such as '10**24' might not be exact.
15:23:38  <V453000> try to write @@(calc88/55)
15:23:41  <V453000> hmf
15:23:45  <V453000> try to write @@(calc 88/55)
15:23:45  <Webster> V453000: 1.6
15:23:48  <V453000> ah
15:23:53  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :P
15:23:58  <V453000> double @ and all of the command in ( )
15:24:26  <V453000> then it works ever from ingame
15:25:05  <Stablean> <Anson> my windows calc tells me that the factors are 0.625 and 1.6
15:28:25  <Stablean> <Anson> hehe, watch out : my first truck was converted ... and it flies :-)
15:28:33  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :P
15:28:40  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Hope upgrades for heavy freight come soon
15:30:13  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :O
15:30:19  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> 60mph 50 items of stock
15:30:33  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> id loose 10 capacity but speed is worth it
15:31:35  <Stablean> <Anson> that also depends on acceleration, climbing hills, and general congestion/stationsizes of you
15:31:53  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Yeah running costs are lower too
15:32:11  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Need a hopper of the same specs though since they make up the bulk of my RV fleet
15:32:42  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Ill trial it for a year or 2 with flatbeds anyway
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15:36:32  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Converting hoppers too, RV speed is equal now....
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15:39:06  <Stablean> <Anson> hehe, i just watched your #230 and my #13 chase each other ... uphill, downhill, once you hit my bumpers, and then you fell back again
15:39:12  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :P
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15:55:35  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> You've got a lot of truck waiting @ Kawayama Mines theres another mine very close by
15:55:45  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> You could increase station spread
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18:47:31  <Stablean> <Anson> i had to go AFK to take care of family, and will need to go AFK agan soon
18:47:37  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Oh ok
18:48:09  <Stablean> <Anson> but first : BIG THANKS to the Autobahn builder :-) ... trucks are fast and deliver nice loads
18:48:17  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :P
18:48:34  <Stablean> <Anson> each truck with 50 bags now gives 22k to 30k $ :-)
18:48:59  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Nice, cant wait for the upgrades
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18:49:29  <Stablean> <Anson> the smaller mines have 22 trucks each, with 2-4 waiting at 0%
18:49:58  <Stablean> <Anson> the double mines have 32 trucks each, with 2-6 trucks waiting at 0%
18:52:03  <Stablean> <Anson> vehicle running cost -50k $, property maintenance -33k %$ (thanks to the autobahn which i can use), and income almost 2.5 mio $ per year :-)
18:52:22  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :D
18:57:07  <Stablean> <Anson> btw : rating at all stations is constant at 67%, and i deliver 310 bags of diamonds and 260 gold per month ... those values almost didn't change ... is there a grf in use which locks them ?
18:57:33  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Ive never heard of a rating locking grf before
18:57:59  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Lost of my stations seem to stick at a certain rating regardless of service quality
18:58:05  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Think its just how the game is...
18:58:12  <Stablean> <Anson> no, i meant the quantity ... always in the range 80-95 for one, 90-115 for another, etc
18:58:23  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Oh
18:58:25  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Dunno
19:00:52  <V453000> as long as there is always some vehicle waiting in the station, it quite makes sense that the ratings are frozen
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19:24:14  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> Anson: you know Komori has no bank?
19:24:32  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Must have died
19:24:49  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> has one now
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19:55:49  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> afk
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20:17:57  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> bk
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20:18:15  <V453000> oh noes
20:18:23  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :CD
20:18:32  <V453000> :P
20:59:22  <Stablean> <Anson> and back again :-)
20:59:28  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> wb
20:59:41  <Stablean> <Anson> very strange ... half my trucks are in the depot
20:59:59  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Conditional orders?
21:00:02  <Stablean> <Anson> that happens when they can't unload at the destination
21:00:22  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Well chris said something about the bank dissapearing
21:00:25  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> but he funded a new one
21:00:32  <Stablean> <Anson> the bank must have been deleted and rebuilt, and during that time, the trucks went to the depot
21:01:22  <Stablean> <Anson> too bad that there is no way for conditional orders to get trucks out of the depot when something happens
21:01:37  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Yep, its weird that the baks seem so unstable
21:01:47  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Usually they dont move for anything...
21:02:46  <Stablean> <Anson> i saw it once ... when there was a message that the bank was gone, i checked and saw an empty space where moments later construction of a house started
21:03:32  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Maybe its set this way on the OGFX+ Industries grf because im pretty sure Ive never seen a bank close on default
21:03:50  <Stablean> <Anson> want to see something funny ? i will release all those 55 trucks at once now :-)
21:04:02  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :P
21:04:30  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> They are still making a profit :P
21:04:36  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Wonder how long they were in there
21:05:14  <Stablean> <Anson> at least for 5 years
21:05:24  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Wow
21:05:31  <Stablean> <Anson> autorenew is on, and they are 5 years over max age
21:09:37  <Stablean> <Anson> with all those 55 trucks in the depot, i had -30k$ running costs and +1.7 mio$ income :-)
21:10:15  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :P Well luckily chris saw that the bank died earlier or thered be no income
21:10:26  <Stablean> <Anson> rating of my mines went down to something like 20%
21:11:26  <Stablean> <Anson> that would have been the worst part : no trucks, no service, no rating, no more mines after a while
21:11:44  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Oh yeah forgot about mines dying
21:12:20  <Stablean> <Anson> in one year with half my trucks, i still earn enough money to pay costs for 30 years :-)
21:12:24  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :P
21:12:34  <Stablean> <Anson> thus "no income" wouldn't be a problem for a while :-)
21:13:10  <Stablean> <Anson> and with dead mines, even the running costs would have been 0 and only -30k% per year for maintenance of roads
21:14:38  <Stablean> <Anson> without somene so nice like you all, the conditional depot order would have ben a life saver ... now it was only an amusing side effect :-)
21:14:52  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :P
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21:19:08  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Weird...
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21:21:01  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> Anson: you like the fact I built you a bank?
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21:38:11  <Stablean> <tom> hello again
21:38:15  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Hi
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21:47:14  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Maglev time :D
21:47:20  <Stablean> <tom> lol
21:47:30  <Stablean> <tom> are there any decent maglev freight trains?
21:47:36  <Stablean> <tom> tbh i cba with em
21:47:46  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Japanese set maglevs dont let you carry freight
21:48:16  <Stablean> <tom> wtf happened to my factory
21:48:22  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> The transrapid tracks let you carry goods though
21:48:30  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Were you sarvicing it?
21:48:36  <Stablean> <tom> yeah
21:48:42  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> No jams?
21:48:50  <Stablean> <tom> dont think so
21:48:53  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Normally they die if trains cant drop cargo to them
21:49:07  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Anson you there?
21:50:34  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :/
21:51:09  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> whats wrong MrD2DG?
21:51:23  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Just wanted to tell him that some new RV's are available
21:51:34  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Gonna upgrade mine soon speed difference
21:51:46  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> your will overtake his
21:52:01  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> We looked earlier and it seems that long RV's dont overtake
21:52:27  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Well i dont think so his wernt overtaking my slow articulated ones earlier
21:53:03  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Anyway ill wait for a new refridgerated so i can upgrade all of mine together
21:53:10  <Stablean> <tom> i need a town to send goods too
21:53:33  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Find one?
21:53:39  <Stablean> <tom> trying lol
21:53:41  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Or grow one
21:53:47  <Stablean> <tom> all the ones that accept goods are taken
21:53:53  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Few buses and towns grow quickly
21:54:15  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> I would say you can use Nagahashi but im gonna start magleving soon and i dunno how much space ill need
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21:55:50  <Stablean> <tom> damn laptop can't handle this and mumble :/
21:55:57  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Lol
21:56:16  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Use a desktop PC :)
21:56:23  <Stablean> <tom> haven't got one
21:56:29  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Oh
21:56:57  <Stablean> <tom> so factories close down if you don't send their goods places?
21:57:03  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> No
21:57:13  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> They close down if you dont supply them with things
21:57:15  <Stablean> <tom> hmmm why did my factory close down then
21:57:17  <Stablean> <tom> grr
21:57:19  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Taking their goods doesnt matter
21:57:25  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> You sure a jam didnt stop supply
21:58:57  <Stablean> <tom> damn my rails are jamming bad
21:59:09  <Stablean> <tom> really need to just start again and make them cleaner
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22:13:35  <Stablean> <tom> i should upgrade to LL_RR
22:13:50  <Stablean> <tom> some places i don't have the space to though lol
22:13:52  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Yeah in some parts id sa you should
22:13:55  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :P
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22:16:01  <Stablean> <tom> what train are you using mrD
22:16:20  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> ASEA/EMD AEM-7
22:16:26  <Stablean> <tom> ahhh
22:16:30  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> 140mph (fastest elec i think)
22:16:32  <Stablean> <tom> wondered why they going so quickly lol
22:16:35  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :P
22:16:45  <Stablean> <tom> they are going 201km/h here :P i'm in metric
22:17:03  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :P Id recommend them very good nice HP & speed
22:17:32  <Stablean> <tom> i kinda need to go over and restart my trains from scratch lol its a bit of a mess
22:17:38  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :P
22:17:40  <Stablean> <tom> not much room to expand anymore lol
22:17:50  <Chris_Booth> IIRS 201km/h == 125MPH
22:17:58  <Chris_Booth> and 14MPH == 225km/h
22:18:14  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Why do i keep saying 140mph :/
22:18:23  <Stablean> <tom> why are my trains randomly loading to 99% then stop
22:18:29  <Stablean> <tom> even though there is steel in the station
22:18:50  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> You sure the time too 100% is too fast to show
22:19:04  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Some wagosn load faster than others check load in train windows
22:19:14  <Stablean> <tom> nah they just sit in the station at 99% for eva
22:19:20  <Stablean> <tom> until i tell them to skip the order
22:19:24  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> weird
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22:49:42  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :/
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23:37:53  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Anson?
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