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Log for #openttdcoop.stable on 7th June 2011:
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05:16:26  <Stablean> <V453000> hi
05:16:32  <Stablean> <Sylf> hi
05:16:42  <Stablean> <V453000> want to join? :)
05:17:00  <Stablean> <Sylf> hmmm
05:17:02  <Stablean> <V453000> I have the limited edition of E1/E4 ^_^
05:17:36  <Stablean> <Sylf> Yeah, I didn't recognize that one
05:17:54  <Stablean> <Sylf> oh, you're doing PSG 192 :)
05:18:01  <Stablean> <V453000> basically, yes
05:18:07  <Stablean> <V453000> but soon multiple stations will be needed
05:18:27  <Stablean> <V453000> I was doing psg 192 here about twice already before the psg happened :p
05:19:10  <Stablean> <Sylf> it looks fun, I wanna join, but I need sleep too :p
05:19:16  <Stablean> <V453000> :D
05:19:34  <Stablean> <V453000> just an offer ... :p
05:19:44  <Stablean> <Sylf> yup
05:21:21  <Stablean> <V453000> too bad that this version of E1 is just for 1995->1997/8 which is sooo damn short time :o
05:21:36  <Stablean> <V453000> on the other hand it is good for me because nobody else is going to have them ^_&
05:21:38  <Stablean> <Sylf> yeah
05:21:54  <Stablean> <Sylf> so, you're buying as many as you can now? :D
05:22:12  <Stablean> <V453000> I have 500, that should be enough
05:22:22  <Stablean> <Sylf> hehehe, yeah
05:23:09  <Stablean> <V453000> ooh I dont even have money anymore :D
05:23:19  <Stablean> <V453000> fun I had 90M :D
05:23:33  <Stablean> <V453000> damn I knew it is going to be "as much money as possible"
05:23:43  <Stablean> <V453000> you should have seen my start
05:23:47  <Stablean> <Sylf> oh yeah?
05:23:50  <Stablean> <V453000> I bankrupted once, made the rails again.
05:24:04  <Stablean> <V453000> Then I was having like 5 years of basically no income
05:24:16  <Stablean> <V453000> and suddenly my income exploded because towns grew just a little bit
05:24:24  <Stablean> <V453000> and since then they keep exploding :D
05:25:24  <Stablean> <Sylf> one of these days, I'll start playing pax games
05:25:30  <Stablean> <V453000> he
05:25:33  <Stablean> <Sylf> but for now... sleep time
05:25:37  <Stablean> <V453000> cya :)
05:25:39  <Stablean> <Sylf> have fun :)
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08:29:19  <Stablean> <TWerkhoven> mornin
08:29:29  <Stablean> <phatmatt> evening
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09:04:57  <Stablean> <V453000> hi
09:05:03  <Stablean> <TWerkhoven> ello
09:05:59  <Stablean> <V453000> you dont play? :)
09:09:46  <Stablean> <TWerkhoven> not sure where to expand to
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09:14:11  <Stablean> <TWerkhoven> wb
09:14:25  <Stablean> <V453000> he, dont even say that my connection tends to break often :p
09:14:39  <Stablean> <TWerkhoven> first time i see ya go with a desync error though
09:14:53  <Stablean> <V453000> :OOO
09:14:58  <V453000> holy cow
09:15:20  <V453000> pm: I managed to get a desync in stable :O no clue how though
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09:16:25  <planetmaker> hm... in stable sucks. Sucks like hell
09:16:32  <planetmaker> !date
09:16:35  <planetmaker> !rcon date
09:16:35  <Stablean> planetmaker: ERROR: command not found
09:16:37  <Stablean> <V453000> I guess :o
09:16:39  <planetmaker> !date
09:16:40  <Stablean> planetmaker: 20 Jan 2005
09:16:55  <planetmaker> can you carry on playing this game in te sense that it is not yet finished?
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09:17:13  <planetmaker> !rcon save desync_start
09:17:14  <Stablean> planetmaker: players
09:17:14  <Stablean> planetmaker: server_info
09:17:14  <Stablean> planetmaker: clients
09:17:14  <Stablean> planetmaker: echo doneclientcount
09:17:14  <V453000> what do you mean?
09:17:15  <Stablean> planetmaker: #:1(Brown) Company Name: 'Island of Beer and Cheer'  Year Founded: 1923  Money: 61939380  Loan: 0  Value: 96826149  (T:618, R:135, P:0, S:0) protected
09:17:15  <Stablean> planetmaker: you have 15 more messages
09:17:30  <Stablean> <TWerkhoven> theres industries to hook up yes
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09:17:44  <V453000> I am going to play this for a long while probably :P have an island to populate with rails
09:17:47  <planetmaker> will you continue playing long enough so that it might be triggered again?
09:17:54  <planetmaker> ok
09:18:02  <V453000> hopefully :) it happened after a looooong time though
09:18:12  <planetmaker> !rcon debug_level desync=3
09:18:15  <planetmaker> !rcon debug_level
09:18:15  <Stablean> planetmaker: Current debug-level: 'ai=-1, driver=0, grf=0, map=0, misc=0, net=0, sprite=0, oldloader=0, npf=0, yapf=0, freetype=0, sl=0, gamelog=0, desync=3, console=0'
09:18:16  <V453000> I was here basically for ... well since 16 until about 23 hour
09:18:27  <V453000> plus 2 today in the morning
09:18:32  <V453000> a desync after 9 hours :o
09:18:36  <planetmaker> :-O
09:18:43  <planetmaker> !rcon save desync_start
09:18:43  <Stablean> planetmaker: Saving map...
09:18:43  <Stablean> planetmaker: Map successfully saved to desync_start.sav
09:18:48  <planetmaker> !rcon load desync_start
09:18:48  <Stablean> planetmaker: desync_start: No such file or directory.
09:18:52  <planetmaker> !rcon load desync_start.sav
09:18:52  <Stablean> planetmaker: desync_start.sav: No such file or directory.
09:18:55  <TWerkhoven> but you were only connected to stable for 5 mins or so
09:19:00  <TWerkhoven> well, 11
09:19:06  <Stablean> <V453000> well sure
09:19:12  <Stablean> <V453000> just talking about the probability :p
09:19:17  <planetmaker> Twerkhoven: often the server run time is the critical one
09:19:29  <planetmaker> !rcon pwd
09:19:29  <Stablean> planetmaker: /home/ottdc/svn-stable/autopilot/save/uploads/
09:19:33  <planetmaker> !rcon cd ..
09:19:38  <planetmaker> !rcon load desync_start.sav
09:19:38  <Stablean> planetmaker: CmdTurnRoadVeh          V453000  date:2005-04-10  tile:00003BEF  p1:000008AE p2:00000000 text: price:0
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09:31:19  <planetmaker> !info
09:31:19  <Stablean> planetmaker: http://stable.openttdcoop.org
09:31:23  <Stablean> <V453000> I love these trains :)
09:31:37  <Stablean> <V453000> are cute
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12:04:03  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> server reset and passwords lost?
12:04:09  <Stablean> <Phil> chris pw for your company is 123
12:04:11  <Stablean> <Phil> yeah it did
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12:04:37  <Stablean> <Phil> do we still need brake vans?
12:04:51  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> not with new wagons
12:05:20  <Stablean> <Phil> ok thx
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12:07:38  <TWerkhoven> ello
12:07:51  <Stablean> <Phil> /wave
12:08:01  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> bonjour
12:08:37  <Stablean> <Phil> btw if anyone joins and im not here their password is 123
12:09:21  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> good to know now I can build everyone a boat
12:09:32  <TWerkhoven> lol
12:09:54  <Stablean> <Phil> haha they'd like that
12:10:26  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I know I would be doing them a favour
12:15:04  <Stablean> <Phil> damn it
12:15:11  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> what?
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12:15:21  <Stablean> <Phil> now all my trains will be too long
12:15:36  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> use the wagon removal option
12:15:43  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> that is what it is there for
12:16:04  <Stablean> <Phil> aha never knew that
12:16:11  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> noob :P
12:16:31  <Stablean> <Phil> lol
12:16:41  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> TWerkhoven: you want to join us?
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12:24:37  <TWerkhoven> nah, we're just goin away
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12:40:54  <Stablean> <Phil> wagon removal isn't working :(
12:43:02  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> should do
12:45:33  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> Phil: it only works if you replace from small to big wagons
12:45:43  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> so you have to go back to old wagons first
12:46:06  <Stablean> <Phil> i went from small to big/old to new
12:46:20  <Stablean> <Phil> didn't remove any
12:46:26  <Stablean> <Phil> now im removing them manually
12:46:48  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> let me see
12:46:57  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> priavte message me your pass
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12:48:04  <Stablean> <Phil> caol and goods are left to do
12:49:04  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> it realy is broken
12:49:30  <Stablean> <Phil> :(
12:50:49  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> the only reason they would bo going to TL 4 is if your trains are 3.1 or above
12:51:09  <Stablean> <Phil> my trains were 3.1 :(
12:51:29  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> then they are TL 4 according it replace
12:52:02  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> and unless you make them TL4 you are now stuck removing wagons maunaly
12:52:15  <Stablean> <Phil> someone should patch it so the fit to station size rather than how it works now imo
12:52:39  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> 3.1 doesn't fit in a 3 tile station
12:52:43  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> it will load slowly
12:53:02  <Stablean> <Phil> mine didn't
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12:53:16  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> they should do
12:53:22  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> since they over hang the station
12:53:37  <Stablean> <Phil> maybe it's cos all my good cars were under 3,  but the brake van took from 2.9 to 3.1
12:54:03  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> could be
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13:19:52  <Stablean> <V453000> hi
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13:19:56  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> 'lo
13:20:25  <Stablean> <Phil> hey v
13:20:31  <Stablean> <Phil> ur trains were jammed
13:20:37  <Stablean> <V453000> anyone desynced yet?
13:20:52  <Stablean> <V453000> Phil: that is quite possible at this stage :)
13:21:09  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> why would we desync?
13:21:15  <Stablean> <V453000> because I had one
13:21:17  <Stablean> <Phil> i set a ton of buses going to grow your town
13:21:47  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> Phil: that will not grow the towns faster
13:21:50  <Stablean> <V453000> towns are growing fine :) it is mainly about their space than service
13:21:59  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> 5 stations visited in one month
13:22:18  <Stablean> <Phil> i added roads too
13:22:25  <Stablean> <V453000> omg :(
13:22:33  <Stablean> <V453000> do not ever do that
13:22:42  <Stablean> <Phil> why not?
13:22:48  <Stablean> <Phil> i can remove them if u want
13:22:50  <Stablean> <V453000> because I cannot modify them
13:22:53  <Stablean> <V453000> yes, do so please
13:23:04  <Stablean> <Phil> give me 2 mins and ill do it :)
13:25:55  <Stablean> <V453000> Chris Booth: you have to admit I have the coolest engines ever :p
13:26:03  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> it is a nice trains
13:26:14  <Stablean> <V453000> well mainly within a 3-year limited edition :o
13:26:31  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> you are using the E1
13:26:35  <Stablean> <V453000> yes
13:26:37  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> not the E4
13:26:43  <Stablean> <V453000> you can buy just E3 now, or what that is
13:26:51  <Stablean> <V453000> E4, yes
13:27:14  <Stablean> <V453000> E4 is ugly
13:27:37  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> its not as good looking
13:27:41  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> but same speed
13:27:45  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> so you could mix a few in
13:27:48  <Stablean> <V453000> well sure, same stats
13:27:54  <Stablean> <V453000> no :)
13:28:17  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> can you still build the E1 if you clone?
13:28:20  <Stablean> <V453000> no
13:28:49  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> thats why you have them stockpiled them
13:28:55  <Stablean> <V453000> ofc :)
13:31:04  <Stablean> <V453000> it actually did cost me ALL of my money at that time :o
13:32:52  <Stablean> <Phil> roads removed
13:32:56  <Stablean> <V453000> thanks
13:33:02  <Stablean> <V453000> just dont "help" others ;)
13:33:12  <Stablean> <V453000> it usually isnt as helful as you kindly expected
13:33:19  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> that sucks, all but the E1/4 have 100 pax per tile
13:33:25  <Stablean> <Phil> ok :)
13:33:25  <Stablean> <V453000> yes :)
13:35:35  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> V453000: my 4 trains 66-69 would work nicely aswell
13:35:49  <Stablean> <V453000> hehe
13:35:52  <Stablean> <V453000> no, E1 is the best :P
13:36:00  <Stablean> <V453000> but sure they would
13:36:02  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> yes I agree
13:36:20  <Stablean> <V453000> and my network can really benefit from the capacity, so ... :)
13:36:40  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> 66 and 69 are very similar
13:40:03  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I have never noticed how badly designed the speeds/accelerations of the Shinkansen
13:40:13  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> very few with same speed
13:40:19  <Stablean> <V453000> hm
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13:40:46  <V453000> take monorail shinkansen and be happy what we got :p
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13:42:47  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> is there anyway to make 2CCs TGVs run on same tracks as Shinkansens?
13:42:55  <Stablean> <V453000> hardly
13:43:20  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I wanted TGV + N700 so I could make a south korean style network
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13:48:48  <Stablean> <V453000> oh :)
13:48:50  <Stablean> <V453000> still
13:48:56  <Stablean> <V453000> oh wtf
13:48:59  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> was wondering why Train 8 was stuck
13:49:09  <Stablean> <V453000> very wtf
13:49:21  <Stablean> <V453000> close .D
13:49:23  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> bang
13:50:07  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> you can open that line
13:50:13  <Stablean> <V453000> no caare
14:18:23  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I hate hay feaver
14:18:53  <Stablean> <Phil> i would too if i had it
14:19:29  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> good for you, I can't stop sneezing
14:19:44  <Stablean> <Phil> :/
14:19:53  <Stablean> <V453000> my girlfriend has the same
14:20:03  <Stablean> <V453000> I have to say one probably cant imagine that until you have it
14:20:32  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> What I don't understand if why we don't have a cure for it
14:20:40  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> been annoying people for years
14:25:06  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> Phil: why buy all that land?
14:25:31  <Stablean> <V453000> lol
14:25:33  <Stablean> <Phil> stop any industries spawing or something stupid
14:25:36  <Stablean> <V453000> :)
14:25:42  <Stablean> <V453000> they wont
14:25:52  <Stablean> <V453000> just make the landscape unsmooth enough
14:25:59  <Stablean> <V453000> instead of buying this much land
14:26:05  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> yes
14:26:19  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> also that is very oversized
14:26:23  <Stablean> <Phil> last time i terraformed
14:26:29  <Stablean> <Phil> chris told me off
14:26:43  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I said do it within reason
14:26:51  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> TF in that case is better than buying land
14:27:03  <Stablean> <Phil> ok
14:27:19  <Stablean> <Phil> and yea it's over sized
14:27:22  <Stablean> <Phil> im going to fix it
14:27:24  <Stablean> <V453000> ofc in reasonable rates, as always :p
14:27:35  <Stablean> <Phil> i want that oil well to move first
14:27:41  <Stablean> <V453000> if you do it nicely, the TF will not be visible even
14:28:18  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> ooh and transmitters never die
14:28:24  <Stablean> <Phil> yeah i know :(
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14:28:38  <Stablean> <Phil> i like to terraform like that inbetween track space
14:28:42  <Stablean> <Phil> it looks pretty
14:30:12  <Stablean> <Phil> can't we get magic bulldozer enabled?
14:30:22  <Stablean> <V453000> you know what would happen?
14:30:36  <Stablean> <Phil> allow admin use only :)
14:30:46  <Stablean> <V453000> I am just a client in game
14:30:48  <Stablean> <V453000> nothing more
14:30:50  <Stablean> <V453000> cant recognize
14:31:06  <Stablean> <Phil> no but sometimes admin are around
14:31:10  <Stablean> <Phil> they could remove stuff
14:31:14  <Stablean> <V453000> ...
14:31:16  <Stablean> <V453000> how
14:31:24  <Stablean> <Phil> with magic bulldozer
14:31:38  <Stablean> <V453000> you either allow dozer for all or no one
14:32:01  <Stablean> <Phil> surely someone smarter than me can modify the code to allow admin only no?
14:32:11  <Stablean> <V453000> there is no admin
14:32:13  <Stablean> <V453000> we are all clients
14:32:23  <Stablean> <V453000> but I guess it would be possible
14:32:30  <Stablean> <V453000> maybe :p
14:32:36  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> no it wouldn't
14:32:42  <Stablean> <Phil> so is this server a dedicated server?
14:32:42  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> since it is on or off
14:32:58  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> there is no client ID or name in the call of magic buldozer
14:33:02  <Stablean> <V453000> true
14:33:06  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> this is a dedicated server
14:33:20  <Stablean> <Phil> where's it hosted?
14:33:22  <Stablean> <V453000> but if you allowed certain actions only to clients X Y Z
14:33:51  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> as an admin you can only use rcon inside the server
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14:59:38  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> V453000: train 37
14:59:45  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> wrong signal
15:00:12  <Stablean> <V453000> uhh
15:00:14  <Stablean> <V453000> thx
15:01:44  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> V453000:  !signal
15:01:57  <Stablean> <V453000> ffs :D the same one
15:02:16  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> well that was the last missing one I could see
15:03:14  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I wonder if work will miss me if I go home 1:30 hours early
15:03:28  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> and get a shower to stop me sneezing
15:06:04  <Chris_Booth[LP]> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZvm5H4F-aA&feature=player_embedded
15:06:05  <Webster> Title: YouTube - Extreme Trainsurfer (at www.youtube.com)
15:06:15  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> that is a carzy video
15:06:58  <Stablean> <Phil> is it ottd or someone actualy train surfing?
15:07:29  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> someone train surfing and ICE 3
15:08:11  <V453000> lol
15:08:37  <Stablean> <Phil> had to be japanese
15:08:41  <Stablean> <Phil> those guys are nutts
15:08:41  <Chris_Booth> stupid crazy kid
15:08:51  <Chris_Booth> no it was a german kid
15:09:04  <Stablean> <Phil> oh
15:09:22  <Stablean> <Phil> that train is in japan though right?
15:10:16  <Chris_Booth> no its a german ICE 3
15:11:26  <Stablean> <Phil> are well the only contry in the world with shit trains?
15:11:27  <Chris_Booth> I found a crazy south african guy dancing on a train
15:11:48  <Chris_Booth> germany has shit trains?
15:11:57  <Stablean> <Phil> im english :P
15:12:07  <Chris_Booth> we have some nice trains
15:12:31  <Stablean> <Phil> like what? :o
15:12:55  <Stablean> <Phil> by shit i really mean slow
15:13:02  <Chris_Booth> the Eurostar, Voyager, Pendalino, HST 125 HST 225. Javelin
15:13:08  <Chris_Booth> all faster than 125 mph
15:13:18  <Chris_Booth> lots of our trains are fast
15:13:30  <Stablean> <Phil> haha show what i know
15:13:31  <Chris_Booth> we have the most 125 MPH lines per square KM in the world
15:13:50  <Stablean> <Phil> fastest i've ever been on is 70mph from wakefield to leeds lol
15:14:05  <Stablean> <Phil> now that's surprising
15:14:07  <Chris_Booth> that is a commuter train
15:14:19  <Chris_Booth> we only have one 187 MPH line
15:14:19  <Stablean> <Phil> i would have expected japan to hold that title
15:14:58  <Chris_Booth> but we have Great Western, East Coast, West Coast and Grand Central Main Lines which are all 125MPH
15:15:10  <Chris_Booth> and then High Speed one which is 187 MPH
15:15:27  <Stablean> <Phil> high sped = london to kent i guess?
15:15:42  <Chris_Booth> london to channel tunnel yes
15:16:04  <Stablean> <Phil> expected so
15:16:14  <Stablean> <Phil> southerns get all the cool stuff :/
15:16:39  <Chris_Booth> and High Speed 2 is in the planing stages
15:17:01  <Chris_Booth> London to Liverpool and Manchester
15:17:39  <Stablean> <Phil> do u work in the rail industry or something?
15:18:36  <Chris_Booth> no I am a computer engineer
15:19:30  <Stablean> <Phil> engineer?  like acad designer or something? or techie? or systems admin?
15:20:58  <Chris_Booth> website and network admin
15:21:21  <Stablean> <Phil> i see
15:21:23  <Stablean> <Phil> cool job
15:21:29  <Stablean> <Phil> playing games all day :P
15:22:26  <Chris_Booth> yes until I get a ticket or phone call to do something
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15:34:23  <Stablean> <DnZ-Ali> Hi
15:34:34  <Stablean> <Phil> hey
15:35:07  <Stablean> <DnZ-Ali> why i cant connected to my company?
15:35:13  <Stablean> <Phil> password is 123
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15:35:23  <Stablean> <DnZ-Ali> tnx :D
15:35:29  <Stablean> <Phil> all passwords were reset i ge them all new oones
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15:36:24  <Chris_Booth> I am off now
15:36:29  <Stablean> <V453000> cya
15:36:33  <Stablean> <Phil> cya
15:40:38  <Stablean> <Phil> im away now too for swim
15:40:42  <Stablean> <Phil> see ulater
15:40:44  <Stablean> <V453000> cya
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19:11:19  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> hi Chris
19:11:22  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> hi Troy McClure
19:11:57  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> now we have lots of money what do you want to do?
19:12:11  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> err
19:12:25  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> Pax/
19:12:28  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> ?
19:12:46  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> fine by me
19:12:49  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> k
19:12:51  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> what location
19:14:18  <Stablean> <Phil> who put that sign there about terraforming?
19:14:29  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> Troy McClure:
19:14:40  <Stablean> <Phil> umm
19:14:50  <Stablean> <Phil> thought u said it was better than buying land?
19:14:52  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> we it wasn't me
19:15:00  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> it is
19:15:06  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> to some extent
19:15:12  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> but make it look nice
19:15:26  <Stablean> <Phil> now im lost :/
19:15:32  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> Troy McClure probably doesn't like the fact it is so obvious
19:17:00  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> something like that Phil
19:17:14  <Stablean> <Phil> ok :)
19:19:40  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yes
19:23:54  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> Phil just a quick question, have you read the server rules?
19:24:00  <Stablean> <Phil> yes
19:24:19  <Stablean> <Phil> why'd you ask?
19:24:38  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> just strange since you have been in here for a few games now, and you are still building without thinking of others
19:24:53  <Stablean> <Phil> where?
19:25:29  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> both !here signs to me are places you take up more room than needed
19:25:29  <Stablean> <Phil> umm
19:25:44  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> and leave others less room than I personaly would
19:25:56  <Stablean> <Phil> ali actualy thanked me for leaving space for him to double his lines
19:26:04  <Stablean> <Phil> so he seems happy with it
19:26:20  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> yes but why have a gap between bridges?
19:26:50  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> if you don't leave that gap you save so much space
19:27:00  <Stablean> <Phil> thought u saaid small diagonal makes trains slow and causes jams?
19:27:09  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> no
19:27:17  <Stablean> <Phil> err
19:27:19  <Stablean> <Phil> no?
19:27:24  <Stablean> <Phil> you did lol
19:27:49  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> not in that context
19:27:53  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I have show you what I mean
19:28:05  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> check !this
19:28:26  <Stablean> <Phil> ok i never knew
19:28:52  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> its fine, but asking never hurts
19:28:58  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> if you don;t understand then just ask
19:29:00  <Stablean> <Phil> i thought since said slow oshort diagonal ill mae em longer :)
19:29:16  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> only when you are turning 90 degrees
19:29:32  <Stablean> <Phil> ok i now i know
19:29:40  <Stablean> <Phil> but you never said so at the time
19:30:02  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> and all of those empty platforms are just a waste, but in somecase good if you expect lots of traffic
19:30:26  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> a gener rule for station is a track can take ~ 7-10 platforms
19:30:44  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> anything more than that you will need 2 lines each dirction
19:31:13  <Stablean> <Phil> i don't have a staion more than 6 playform nevermind 7
19:31:48  <Stablean> <Phil> i was told by someone the other day that never pickup and drop off at the same station
19:31:54  <Stablean> <Phil> apparenlty it a coop rule
19:32:04  <Stablean> <Phil> so thata's what i've tried to avoid
19:32:23  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> yes that is very good rule of thumb
19:32:36  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> but you can drop more than one cargo at the same station
19:32:54  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> you just don't want to mix you droping trains an pickup trains
19:33:16  <Stablean> <Phil> aha i see so i could use steel and coal drop as one?
19:33:16  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> or you primary pickups with goods or steel
19:33:19  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> yes
19:33:33  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> in coop we generaly say 1 pickup per cargo
19:33:47  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> 1 drop per industry area
19:33:57  <Stablean> <Phil> ok
19:34:12  <Stablean> <Phil> if i had shared orders on my trains i'd fix that
19:34:20  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> yeah it fine
19:34:24  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> you will pick these things up
19:34:45  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> as you can see you are one of the good builders out there
19:35:01  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> just stick with it, and you will learn
19:35:15  <Stablean> <Phil> yeah
19:35:25  <Stablean> <Phil> it's why i play here now,  to learn from you guys
19:35:39  <Stablean> <Phil> because as far as i can tell,  you peeps are the best
19:35:47  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> if you want to play with one of us just ask, I am sure people will let you join them
19:36:16  <Stablean> <Phil> cool
19:36:23  <Stablean> <Phil> do you know a player named brakes?
19:36:35  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> no never played here I don;t think
19:36:42  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I  only played on coop servers
19:37:08  <Stablean> <Phil> i haven'tseen him for 2 years,  but he was really good
19:37:16  <Stablean> <Phil> best builder i've ever seen
19:37:32  <Stablean> <Phil> i thought maybe he played here years ago,  but seems not
19:38:05  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> you should look at our archives there is some crazy stuff in there
19:38:36  <Stablean> <Phil> yeah i've seen
19:38:42  <Stablean> <Phil> some are bugged though
19:38:57  <Stablean> <Phil> like trains that don't move but no signals wrong etc
19:38:59  <Stablean> <Phil> :/
19:39:10  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> no none are buged, you just need the GRFs listed and the game revision listed
19:39:15  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> we use alot of new GRFs
19:39:25  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> most of which are found in the GRF pack
19:39:39  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> or in the openttd Download Client
19:39:49  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> but some old ones are very hard to find
19:40:07  <Stablean> <Phil> yeah i thought some maybe even nolonger existed
19:40:13  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> if you find a save the realy doesn't work please tell us
19:40:24  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> most of them should
19:40:38  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I have all the GRFs from ~ PGS 80 - now
19:40:46  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> so I can help you with most of them
19:41:00  <Stablean> <Phil> excellent
19:42:16  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> Phil: we also run a slighty more extreme server than this
19:42:26  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> but you need to have nighlty release of openttd to run it
19:42:32  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> and to join our IRC channel
19:42:44  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> so it takes a bit more effort to find it
19:42:58  <Stablean> <Phil> yeah i was in there the other day
19:43:34  <Stablean> <Phil> i'd sooner learn as much a poss here though irst
19:43:43  <Stablean> <DnZ-Ali> CB in nightly version can play everything?
19:43:58  <Stablean> <DnZ-Ali> not must be coop players?
19:44:15  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> DnZ-Ali: you can play on any server running that version
19:44:19  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> same as with stable version
19:44:36  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> but I think coop is one of the few servers left running nightly releases
19:45:09  <Stablean> <DnZ-Ali> yea a see coop nigtly but have password
19:46:17  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> yes we do DnZ-Ali, you need to join the IRC channel to get the password
19:46:20  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> anyone can get it
19:46:30  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> www.openttdcoop.org/IRC
19:46:36  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> then chose a nick
19:46:42  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> and type !password
19:46:48  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> and it will give you the password
19:47:03  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> or you can use your own client such as chatzilla or mIRC
19:47:09  <Stablean> <DnZ-Ali> tnx CB
19:47:21  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> and join us on irc.oftc.net/openttdcoop
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19:49:25  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I am off now bye bye guys
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19:53:43  <Stablean> <DnZ-Ali> bye
19:53:45  <Stablean> <Phil> cya
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21:31:58  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> Phil: are you still here?
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21:38:31  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> hi Troy McClure
21:38:37  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> hi again
21:38:51  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> any idea on where you want to pax?
21:39:13  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> near our area
21:39:27  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> im not really the one for long distance pax
21:39:27  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> all towns?
21:39:33  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> id like to see towns grow :P
21:39:59  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> you know that breaks the rules just growing towns
21:40:31  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> how? because of difficulties loading/
21:41:18  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> no you need to send pax somewhere not just grow towns
21:41:28  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> oh, but i will send the pax somewhere
21:41:42  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> to hell?
21:41:49  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> no, to other towns
21:41:59  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> hell is a town :P
21:42:13  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> Im checking town directory
21:42:19  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> dont see Hell mentioned there...
21:42:22  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hell,_Norway
21:42:23  <Webster> Title: Hell, Norway - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at en.wikipedia.org)
21:42:24  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> :P
21:42:30  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> aah,
21:42:32  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> hell is in norway
21:42:38  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> but it's not in this game now is it/
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21:43:50  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> no
21:44:09  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> does that mean Hell freezes over quickly/
21:44:22  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> very true
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21:44:47  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> ok I am getting ride of our trains
21:44:55  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> why/
21:44:58  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> pax
21:46:28  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> WTF @ Train 50/51
21:46:32  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> was that you Troy McClure?
21:46:42  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> probably
21:46:50  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> realy?
21:47:03  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> was working further down the line
21:47:07  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> or was it me depoting the trains?
21:51:57  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> last 2 trains
21:52:22  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> last train
21:52:25  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> bye bye trians
21:56:06  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> wow what a mess I made
21:59:17  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> woot
21:59:38  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> let use a mix of trains
21:59:45  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I am layout out all the combos
21:59:47  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> #6 :)
21:59:52  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> lol
22:00:55  <Stablean> <Phil> oh
22:01:03  <Stablean> <Phil> uve killed your network
22:01:21  <Stablean> <Phil> can i use your industries?
22:01:37  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> please don't
22:01:43  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> we are making pax
22:01:57  <Stablean> <Phil> what is a pax?
22:02:09  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> Passenger Express
22:02:28  <Stablean> <Phil> so passenger only?
22:02:37  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> yes but we need the land
22:02:49  <Stablean> <Phil> yeah it's ok i get that
22:03:07  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> once we have layed our lines you can move in
22:03:19  <Stablean> <Phil> ok :)
22:04:07  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> Troy McClure: check train ard
22:04:29  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> see it :P
22:04:32  <Stablean> <Phil> jeez
22:04:42  <Stablean> <Phil> train yard = easy cloning?
22:04:44  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> every train in every livery
22:04:46  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> yes
22:04:56  <Stablean> <Phil> i like it :)
22:05:52  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I love these trains CL3 @ 300km/h
22:05:54  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> sick
22:08:59  <Stablean> <Phil> is there anyway to upgrade to maglev without giving me nightmares?
22:09:08  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> nope
22:09:24  <Stablean> <Phil> someone should make an easier way heh
22:09:26  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> maglev is pax only aswell
22:09:33  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> there is called universal rail
22:09:35  <Stablean> <Phil> oh
22:09:41  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> but we only load it when it is needed
22:09:51  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> since this maglev is pax only
22:09:59  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> and starts in 1960s there is no reason to load it
22:10:13  <Stablean> <Phil> ok
22:12:19  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> train 16 is super ugly
22:16:27  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> Troy McClure: what now?
22:16:29  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> just expand?
22:16:35  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yep
22:17:10  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> and add bus feeders, i guess
22:33:36  <Stablean> <Phil> why doesn't this prio trigger and how do i make it work?
22:34:41  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> because
22:34:51  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> you've got exit signals right after it
22:35:09  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> a presignal searches for A free path
22:35:44  <Stablean> <Phil> is there anything i can do to make it work?
22:35:55  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> remove the exit signals right after it
22:36:21  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> but that would ruin the balancing you "have" with the presignals there
22:36:35  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> why do all japanese train have to look like they a draw by kids on crack?
22:36:49  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> because they are, chris
22:36:51  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> they are...
22:36:53  <Stablean> <Phil> ok i leave it then :/
22:37:02  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I have a way to fix it
22:37:26  <Stablean> <Phil> shoot :)
22:38:05  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> bb
22:38:07  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> im off
22:38:13  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> bb Troy McClure
22:38:13  <Stablean> <Phil> cya troy
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22:38:39  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> Phil:  chesk !hist
22:39:55  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> that will fix it
22:40:01  <Stablean> <Phil> haha jesus
22:40:11  <Stablean> <Phil> who actually worked these out?
22:40:17  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> its realy simple
22:40:23  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> lots of us
22:40:37  <Stablean> <Phil> must have taken a while
22:41:01  <Stablean> <Phil> yeah that angle's beter
22:41:05  <Stablean> <Phil> infact
22:41:11  <Stablean> <Phil> i hate japanese signals
22:41:17  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I know
22:41:19  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> hard to see
22:41:25  <Stablean> <Phil> yeah :/
22:41:27  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> makes it look simple that way
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22:42:06  <Stablean> <Phil> ok ill  go give this a go
22:42:30  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> just use the query tool if you don't know what signal is what
22:43:15  <Stablean> <Phil> never knew query told you the signals too :O
22:43:25  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> it does
22:43:37  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> tells you everything from station types
22:43:39  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> to bridge type
22:43:49  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> track speed limits if you use nutracks
22:43:53  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> signal types
22:43:55  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> ow
22:44:01  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> owner
22:44:34  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I have made that funny turn in mine so it isn't accessable
22:46:06  <Stablean> <Phil> ok
22:46:09  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> if you add 2 reversed 2way PBS signals then the none priored track can join is a train is on one bridge
22:46:19  <Stablean> <Phil> what am i missing?
22:46:57  <Stablean> <Phil> doh do it again i missed it :/
22:47:27  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> look at 1 in my building
22:49:12  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> now it will work how you expect it to
22:49:25  <Stablean> <Phil> that's sweet
22:49:35  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I know
22:49:41  <Stablean> <Phil> not sure why it works though
22:49:55  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> aaah I will show you
22:50:48  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> check !this
22:50:51  <Stablean> <Phil> yep im watching
22:51:21  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> see that as soon as a train enters my prior block, it make the entrance red
22:51:39  <Stablean> <Phil> yep
22:52:21  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> when it hits the PBS it now reserves a path over 1 birdge
22:52:36  <Stablean> <Phil> aha
22:53:03  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> so for a train to be able to entre our track it needs 2 conditions to be true
22:53:13  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> 1 no trains inside our prior block
22:53:23  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> 2 a free PBS block over a bridge
22:53:53  <Stablean> <Phil> it's bridge pbs i don't understand
22:53:55  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> as soon as the train clears the reversed PBS is clears a path
22:54:11  <Stablean> <Phil> why place them baclwards?
22:54:12  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> without them it does that
22:54:39  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> so trains on the ML will take the block upto the next normal block signal
22:54:59  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> if you place them forward train may choce the wrong bridge
22:55:17  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> like that see
22:55:27  <Stablean> <Phil> i see
22:55:43  <Stablean> <Phil> but how does it being backwards help it?
22:55:54  <Stablean> <Phil> i mean it can't see the dsingal right?
22:56:09  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> no it can
22:56:51  <Stablean> <Phil> im a total newb when it comes to pbs
22:56:54  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> if you go to advanced setting, then interface, then display can click the show reserved track
22:57:16  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> tell me once you have done that
22:57:26  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> and I will show you have a backwards PBS does
22:57:37  <Stablean> <Phil> done
22:58:28  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> see train 25
22:58:31  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> and 26
22:58:41  <Stablean> <Phil> yes
22:58:47  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> 25 make the track dark
22:58:57  <Stablean> <Phil> yes
22:59:03  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> that is reserving the path
22:59:07  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> whil 26 doesnt
22:59:57  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> now watch 25
23:00:23  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> the backward PBS blocks all the track
23:00:40  <Stablean> <Phil> yeah i see
23:00:46  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> or atleast until it finds a block signal
23:01:31  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> so you do that over the bridges it allows the entrance track (which has no PBS)
23:01:39  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> to function similar to a PBS track
23:01:45  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> is all the conditions are correct
23:02:39  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> and you will be able to see that happen if you leave that option enabled
23:02:59  <Stablean> <Phil> yyeah i'll leave this option on
23:03:48  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> once you know what signals do its easy to get the layout you want
23:04:18  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> you can even make memory signals and NOT OR and AND gates
23:04:25  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> to make trains to realy funky things
23:04:55  <Stablean> <Phil> what be meory signals? :O
23:09:16  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> you fill those memory blocks
23:10:07  <Stablean> <Phil> i've no idea what's happening lol
23:12:09  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> its just a not gate
23:12:15  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> with a memory cell
23:12:45  <Stablean> <Phil> how and when is this useful?
23:13:11  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> well if you want to split a line 50/50
23:13:17  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> one left an one right
23:13:23  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> then you need 2 of those
23:13:57  <Stablean> <Phil> this is way byond me for now lol
23:14:23  <Stablean> <Phil> what about something i've seen on youtube call a cyclatron or something
23:14:29  <Stablean> <Phil> they look cool and usefull
23:14:47  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> the not gate it self is very useful
23:15:11  <Stablean> <Phil> does a cyclatron use a not gate?
23:15:59  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> not even sure what a cyclthingy does
23:16:17  <Stablean> <Phil> it's a circle that's prt of a prio
23:16:42  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> ooh I know what you mean now
23:16:44  <Stablean> <Phil> it keeps the give way train running a full speed qhile waiting to be injected
23:16:52  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> the train runs at full speed until it can join
23:16:59  <Stablean> <Phil> yes :)
23:17:22  <Stablean> <Phil> kinda like an overflow for prio i huess
23:18:23  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> watch that station
23:18:54  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> when its full it makes trains circle
23:19:15  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> when a space comes free a train entres
23:19:25  <Stablean> <Phil> haha that's neat
23:20:53  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> we also use them for Self Regulating pickup stations
23:21:04  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> building overflows
23:21:10  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> tight packing trains
23:21:13  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> and all sorts of things
23:21:33  <Stablean> <Phil> one day i wantto be able to do all this
23:21:36  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> http://blog.openttdcoop.org/2010/01/13/fail-safe-joiners-priorities-and-the-cyclotron-example/
23:21:50  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> that will tell you about the cyclatron
23:21:57  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> and a better sollution to fail safe joining
23:22:18  <Stablean> <Phil> can i copy and paste from in this game?
23:22:28  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> no
23:22:38  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> but if you go on the openttd coop website
23:22:48  <Stablean> <Phil> yeah i've found it
23:22:50  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> and search fail safe it is the first blog
23:24:35  <Stablean> <Phil> wtf
23:24:35  <Stablean> <Phil> my ore mines must have boomed
23:24:35  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> what?
23:24:35  <Stablean> <Phil> so much steel
23:24:35  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> they will do that
23:24:35  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> Phil: check !thic
23:24:35  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> this
23:24:43  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> that is another use for the momory cells
23:24:49  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> to catch trains in depots
23:25:08  <Stablean> <Phil> cathc them?
23:25:14  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> catch them
23:25:20  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> look at my trains in the depot
23:25:23  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> they are all green
23:25:29  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> and wanting to go
23:25:32  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> but they cant
23:25:35  <Stablean> <Phil> oh
23:26:27  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> when you add logic gate to a game you can do things endlessly
23:26:38  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> in theory you could build a simple CPU with openttd
23:27:24  <Stablean> <Phil> in what way?
23:27:46  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> in the way you could do simple maths on it
23:27:52  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> like 6 x 12
23:27:56  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> or 21/3
23:28:31  <Stablean> <Phil> not sure what to make of that lol
23:29:11  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> well its only in theory no one has yet made a counting machine with openttd
23:29:18  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> but it is possible
23:29:44  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I think there is a tt-forum post about making a CPU with openttd
23:30:34  <Stablean> <Phil> this hame just got a whole lot more complex
23:30:44  <Stablean> <Phil> way more than i ever expected
23:36:09  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> well it doesn't need to be complex
23:36:19  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> only as complex as you see fun
23:36:38  <Stablean> <Phil> heh
23:36:44  <Stablean> <Phil> if it's doable
23:36:50  <Stablean> <Phil> i want  to do it :)
23:36:56  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> what make a CPU
23:37:00  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> it is
23:37:04  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> and it has been done
23:37:11  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?t=51710
23:37:12  <Webster> Title: Transport Tycoon Forums View topic - Logic with logic trains (at www.tt-forums.net)
23:37:13  <Stablean> <Phil> anything doable in game i want to able to do
23:37:24  <Stablean> <Phil> pretty much lie you can
23:37:27  <Stablean> <Phil> like
23:37:43  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> that is an ALU made by mfb
23:38:33  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> if you want next game I will teach you some simple openttd logic and uses
23:38:47  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> and we will make a self regulating primary network
23:39:13  <Stablean> <Phil> self regulatin primary netwprk sounds fun :D
23:39:35  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> just means trains have 1 orders, Entrance Exit Drop
23:39:41  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> and the primary is in the middle
23:40:42  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> check !this
23:40:45  <Stablean> <Phil> i see
23:40:51  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> that is a simple self reg station
23:41:54  <Stablean> <Phil> the other train does whaat exactly?
23:42:19  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> watch it
23:42:46  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> in our network next time it will full load
23:43:00  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> then the trains on the SL will wait infront of the station
23:44:19  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> that setup
23:44:47  <Stablean> <Phil> what does that other train do though?
23:44:49  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> so the dummy train ful loads
23:44:52  <Stablean> <Phil> the on that goes nowhere
23:45:04  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> then once it full load it allows the train in from the SL
23:45:15  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> which picks up good via the transfer order
23:45:27  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> so all trains full load on the SL
23:47:36  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> you will see next game when we build it
23:47:53  <Stablean> <Phil> yeah because right now it make no sense to me:/
23:48:02  <Stablean> <Phil> in a full game though maybe it will
23:48:23  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> if you search SRNW in our blog
23:48:29  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> you will find more out about it
23:48:41  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I am off now
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