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00:13:01 <Stablean> *** ghoti has joined spectators 00:13:06 *** Intexon has joined #openttdcoop.stable 00:17:34 *** Chris_Booth[LP] has quit IRC 00:34:41 <Stablean> *** md has left the game (leaving) 00:34:59 *** md_ has quit IRC 01:27:06 <Stablean> *** ghoti has left the game (leaving) 01:35:21 *** Intexon has quit IRC 03:22:02 <Stablean> *** Phil has left the game (leaving) 03:22:02 <Stablean> *** Game paused (number of players) 03:36:08 *** DayDreamer has joined #openttdcoop.stable 03:45:54 *** DayDreamer has quit IRC 05:08:53 <Stablean> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 05:08:54 <Stablean> *** V453000 joined the game 05:09:03 <Stablean> *** V453000 has joined spectators 05:09:03 <Stablean> *** Game paused (number of players) 05:10:07 <Stablean> *** V453000 has joined company #1 05:10:07 <Stablean> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 05:16:23 <Stablean> *** Sylf joined the game 05:16:26 <Stablean> <V453000> hi 05:16:32 <Stablean> <Sylf> hi 05:16:42 <Stablean> <V453000> want to join? :) 05:17:00 <Stablean> <Sylf> hmmm 05:17:02 <Stablean> <V453000> I have the limited edition of E1/E4 ^_^ 05:17:36 <Stablean> <Sylf> Yeah, I didn't recognize that one 05:17:54 <Stablean> <Sylf> oh, you're doing PSG 192 :) 05:18:01 <Stablean> <V453000> basically, yes 05:18:07 <Stablean> <V453000> but soon multiple stations will be needed 05:18:27 <Stablean> <V453000> I was doing psg 192 here about twice already before the psg happened :p 05:19:10 <Stablean> <Sylf> it looks fun, I wanna join, but I need sleep too :p 05:19:16 <Stablean> <V453000> :D 05:19:34 <Stablean> <V453000> just an offer ... :p 05:19:44 <Stablean> <Sylf> yup 05:21:21 <Stablean> <V453000> too bad that this version of E1 is just for 1995->1997/8 which is sooo damn short time :o 05:21:36 <Stablean> <V453000> on the other hand it is good for me because nobody else is going to have them ^_& 05:21:38 <Stablean> <Sylf> yeah 05:21:54 <Stablean> <Sylf> so, you're buying as many as you can now? :D 05:22:12 <Stablean> <V453000> I have 500, that should be enough 05:22:22 <Stablean> <Sylf> hehehe, yeah 05:23:09 <Stablean> <V453000> ooh I dont even have money anymore :D 05:23:19 <Stablean> <V453000> fun I had 90M :D 05:23:33 <Stablean> <V453000> damn I knew it is going to be "as much money as possible" 05:23:43 <Stablean> <V453000> you should have seen my start 05:23:47 <Stablean> <Sylf> oh yeah? 05:23:50 <Stablean> <V453000> I bankrupted once, made the rails again. 05:24:04 <Stablean> <V453000> Then I was having like 5 years of basically no income 05:24:16 <Stablean> <V453000> and suddenly my income exploded because towns grew just a little bit 05:24:24 <Stablean> <V453000> and since then they keep exploding :D 05:25:24 <Stablean> <Sylf> one of these days, I'll start playing pax games 05:25:30 <Stablean> <V453000> he 05:25:33 <Stablean> <Sylf> but for now... sleep time 05:25:37 <Stablean> <V453000> cya :) 05:25:39 <Stablean> <Sylf> have fun :) 05:25:42 <Stablean> *** Sylf has left the game (leaving) 05:58:11 <Stablean> *** V453000 has left the game (connection lost) 05:58:11 <Stablean> *** Game paused (number of players) 05:58:51 <Stablean> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 05:58:51 <Stablean> *** V453000 joined the game 06:25:06 <Stablean> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving) 06:25:06 <Stablean> *** Game paused (number of players) 06:51:03 *** DayDreamer has joined #openttdcoop.stable 06:52:51 *** DayDreamer has quit IRC 07:18:44 <Stablean> *** KReng joined the game 07:21:18 <Stablean> *** KReng has left the game (leaving) 08:11:26 *** TWerkhoven has joined #openttdcoop.stable 08:20:47 <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (leaving) 08:22:39 <Stablean> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 08:22:42 <Stablean> *** TWerkhoven joined the game 08:22:49 <Stablean> *** TWerkhoven has joined company #6 08:25:27 <Stablean> *** phatmatt joined the game 08:29:19 <Stablean> <TWerkhoven> mornin 08:29:29 <Stablean> <phatmatt> evening 09:04:05 <Stablean> *** phatmatt has left the game (connection lost) 09:04:41 <Stablean> *** TWerkhoven has joined spectators 09:04:42 <Stablean> *** Game paused (number of players) 09:04:52 <Stablean> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 09:04:52 <Stablean> *** V453000 joined the game 09:04:57 <Stablean> <V453000> hi 09:05:03 <Stablean> <TWerkhoven> ello 09:05:59 <Stablean> <V453000> you dont play? :) 09:09:46 <Stablean> <TWerkhoven> not sure where to expand to 09:12:37 <Stablean> *** V453000 has left the game (desync error) 09:12:37 <Stablean> *** Game paused (number of players) 09:12:53 <Stablean> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 09:12:53 <Stablean> *** V453000 joined the game 09:14:11 <Stablean> <TWerkhoven> wb 09:14:25 <Stablean> <V453000> he, dont even say that my connection tends to break often :p 09:14:39 <Stablean> <TWerkhoven> first time i see ya go with a desync error though 09:14:53 <Stablean> <V453000> :OOO 09:14:58 <V453000> holy cow 09:15:20 <V453000> pm: I managed to get a desync in stable :O no clue how though 09:15:57 <Stablean> *** TWerkhoven has joined company #6 09:16:25 <planetmaker> hm... in stable sucks. Sucks like hell 09:16:32 <planetmaker> !date 09:16:35 <planetmaker> !rcon date 09:16:35 <Stablean> planetmaker: ERROR: command not found 09:16:37 <Stablean> <V453000> I guess :o 09:16:39 <planetmaker> !date 09:16:40 <Stablean> planetmaker: 20 Jan 2005 09:16:55 <planetmaker> can you carry on playing this game in te sense that it is not yet finished? 09:17:13 <Stablean> *** V453000 has left the game (connection lost) 09:17:13 <planetmaker> !rcon save desync_start 09:17:14 <Stablean> planetmaker: players 09:17:14 <Stablean> planetmaker: server_info 09:17:14 <Stablean> planetmaker: clients 09:17:14 <Stablean> planetmaker: echo doneclientcount 09:17:14 <V453000> what do you mean? 09:17:15 <Stablean> planetmaker: #:1(Brown) Company Name: 'Island of Beer and Cheer' Year Founded: 1923 Money: 61939380 Loan: 0 Value: 96826149 (T:618, R:135, P:0, S:0) protected 09:17:15 <Stablean> planetmaker: you have 15 more messages 09:17:30 <Stablean> <TWerkhoven> theres industries to hook up yes 09:17:35 <Stablean> *** V453000 joined the game 09:17:44 <V453000> I am going to play this for a long while probably :P have an island to populate with rails 09:17:47 <planetmaker> will you continue playing long enough so that it might be triggered again? 09:17:54 <planetmaker> ok 09:18:02 <V453000> hopefully :) it happened after a looooong time though 09:18:12 <planetmaker> !rcon debug_level desync=3 09:18:15 <planetmaker> !rcon debug_level 09:18:15 <Stablean> planetmaker: Current debug-level: 'ai=-1, driver=0, grf=0, map=0, misc=0, net=0, sprite=0, oldloader=0, npf=0, yapf=0, freetype=0, sl=0, gamelog=0, desync=3, console=0' 09:18:16 <V453000> I was here basically for ... well since 16 until about 23 hour 09:18:27 <V453000> plus 2 today in the morning 09:18:32 <V453000> a desync after 9 hours :o 09:18:36 <planetmaker> :-O 09:18:43 <planetmaker> !rcon save desync_start 09:18:43 <Stablean> planetmaker: Saving map... 09:18:43 <Stablean> planetmaker: Map successfully saved to desync_start.sav 09:18:48 <planetmaker> !rcon load desync_start 09:18:48 <Stablean> planetmaker: desync_start: No such file or directory. 09:18:52 <planetmaker> !rcon load desync_start.sav 09:18:52 <Stablean> planetmaker: desync_start.sav: No such file or directory. 09:18:55 <TWerkhoven> but you were only connected to stable for 5 mins or so 09:19:00 <TWerkhoven> well, 11 09:19:06 <Stablean> <V453000> well sure 09:19:12 <Stablean> <V453000> just talking about the probability :p 09:19:17 <planetmaker> Twerkhoven: often the server run time is the critical one 09:19:29 <planetmaker> !rcon pwd 09:19:29 <Stablean> planetmaker: /home/ottdc/svn-stable/autopilot/save/uploads/ 09:19:33 <planetmaker> !rcon cd .. 09:19:38 <planetmaker> !rcon load desync_start.sav 09:19:38 <Stablean> planetmaker: CmdTurnRoadVeh V453000 date:2005-04-10 tile:00003BEF p1:000008AE p2:00000000 text: price:0 09:19:41 <Stablean> *** Game paused (number of players) 09:19:49 <Stablean> *** V453000 joined the game 09:19:51 <Stablean> *** TWerkhoven joined the game 09:20:15 <Stablean> *** V453000 has joined company #1 09:20:15 <Stablean> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 09:20:20 <Stablean> *** TWerkhoven has joined company #6 09:23:37 <Stablean> *** V453000 has joined spectators 09:23:39 <Stablean> *** V453000 has started a new company (#8) 09:24:04 <Stablean> *** V453000 has joined company #1 09:31:19 <planetmaker> !info 09:31:19 <Stablean> planetmaker: http://stable.openttdcoop.org 09:31:23 <Stablean> <V453000> I love these trains :) 09:31:37 <Stablean> <V453000> are cute 09:41:56 <Stablean> *** Cronux joined the game 09:43:55 <Stablean> *** Cronux has left the game (leaving) 10:13:25 <Stablean> *** V453000 has joined spectators 10:26:46 <Stablean> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving) 10:28:02 <Stablean> *** TWerkhoven has left the game (leaving) 10:28:02 <Stablean> *** Game paused (number of players) 10:52:45 *** Intexon has joined #openttdcoop.stable 11:16:11 *** Chris_Booth has joined #openttdcoop.stable 11:20:19 *** Intexon has quit IRC 11:36:55 *** Mazur has quit IRC 11:37:37 *** Mazur has joined #openttdcoop.stable 11:37:37 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Mazur 11:52:23 *** Chris_Booth[LP] has joined #openttdcoop.stable 11:56:15 <Stablean> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 11:56:17 <Stablean> *** Phil joined the game 11:56:29 <Stablean> *** Phil has joined company #3 11:56:37 <Stablean> *** Phil has joined company #2 11:56:50 <Stablean> *** Phil has joined company #4 11:57:07 <Stablean> *** Phil has joined company #7 11:57:15 <Stablean> *** Phil has joined company #9 11:57:20 <Stablean> *** Phil has joined company #5 12:03:55 <Stablean> *** Chris Booth joined the game 12:04:03 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> server reset and passwords lost? 12:04:09 <Stablean> <Phil> chris pw for your company is 123 12:04:11 <Stablean> <Phil> yeah it did 12:04:21 <Stablean> *** Chris Booth has joined company #3 12:04:37 <Stablean> <Phil> do we still need brake vans? 12:04:51 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> not with new wagons 12:05:20 <Stablean> <Phil> ok thx 12:05:26 <Stablean> *** TWerkhoven joined the game 12:05:34 <Stablean> *** TWerkhoven has joined company #6 12:07:38 <TWerkhoven> ello 12:07:51 <Stablean> <Phil> /wave 12:08:01 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> bonjour 12:08:37 <Stablean> <Phil> btw if anyone joins and im not here their password is 123 12:09:21 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> good to know now I can build everyone a boat 12:09:32 <TWerkhoven> lol 12:09:54 <Stablean> <Phil> haha they'd like that 12:10:26 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I know I would be doing them a favour 12:15:04 <Stablean> <Phil> damn it 12:15:11 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> what? 12:15:17 <Stablean> *** TWerkhoven has joined spectators 12:15:21 <Stablean> <Phil> now all my trains will be too long 12:15:36 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> use the wagon removal option 12:15:43 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> that is what it is there for 12:16:04 <Stablean> <Phil> aha never knew that 12:16:11 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> noob :P 12:16:31 <Stablean> <Phil> lol 12:16:41 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> TWerkhoven: you want to join us? 12:22:20 *** Chris_Booth is now known as Booth 12:24:37 <TWerkhoven> nah, we're just goin away 12:25:13 <Stablean> *** TWerkhoven has started a new company (#8) 12:25:15 <Stablean> *** TWerkhoven has joined spectators 12:40:54 <Stablean> <Phil> wagon removal isn't working :( 12:43:02 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> should do 12:45:33 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> Phil: it only works if you replace from small to big wagons 12:45:43 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> so you have to go back to old wagons first 12:46:06 <Stablean> <Phil> i went from small to big/old to new 12:46:20 <Stablean> <Phil> didn't remove any 12:46:26 <Stablean> <Phil> now im removing them manually 12:46:48 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> let me see 12:46:57 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> priavte message me your pass 12:47:10 *** Booth is now known as Chris_Booth 12:47:34 *** Chris_Booth[LP] has quit IRC 12:47:35 <Stablean> *** Chris Booth has joined company #5 12:48:04 <Stablean> <Phil> caol and goods are left to do 12:49:04 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> it realy is broken 12:49:30 <Stablean> <Phil> :( 12:50:49 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> the only reason they would bo going to TL 4 is if your trains are 3.1 or above 12:51:09 <Stablean> <Phil> my trains were 3.1 :( 12:51:29 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> then they are TL 4 according it replace 12:52:02 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> and unless you make them TL4 you are now stuck removing wagons maunaly 12:52:15 <Stablean> <Phil> someone should patch it so the fit to station size rather than how it works now imo 12:52:39 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> 3.1 doesn't fit in a 3 tile station 12:52:43 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> it will load slowly 12:53:02 <Stablean> <Phil> mine didn't 12:53:06 <Stablean> *** Chris Booth has joined spectators 12:53:12 <Stablean> *** Chris Booth has joined company #3 12:53:16 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> they should do 12:53:22 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> since they over hang the station 12:53:37 <Stablean> <Phil> maybe it's cos all my good cars were under 3, but the brake van took from 2.9 to 3.1 12:54:03 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> could be 12:58:44 <Stablean> *** SimSigMatt joined the game 13:19:14 <Stablean> *** SimSigMatt has left the game (leaving) 13:19:52 <Stablean> <V453000> hi 13:19:52 <Stablean> *** V453000 joined the game 13:19:56 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> 'lo 13:20:25 <Stablean> <Phil> hey v 13:20:31 <Stablean> <Phil> ur trains were jammed 13:20:37 <Stablean> <V453000> anyone desynced yet? 13:20:52 <Stablean> <V453000> Phil: that is quite possible at this stage :) 13:21:09 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> why would we desync? 13:21:15 <Stablean> <V453000> because I had one 13:21:17 <Stablean> <Phil> i set a ton of buses going to grow your town 13:21:47 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> Phil: that will not grow the towns faster 13:21:50 <Stablean> <V453000> towns are growing fine :) it is mainly about their space than service 13:21:59 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> 5 stations visited in one month 13:22:18 <Stablean> <Phil> i added roads too 13:22:25 <Stablean> <V453000> omg :( 13:22:33 <Stablean> <V453000> do not ever do that 13:22:42 <Stablean> <Phil> why not? 13:22:48 <Stablean> <Phil> i can remove them if u want 13:22:50 <Stablean> <V453000> because I cannot modify them 13:22:53 <Stablean> <V453000> yes, do so please 13:23:04 <Stablean> <Phil> give me 2 mins and ill do it :) 13:25:55 <Stablean> <V453000> Chris Booth: you have to admit I have the coolest engines ever :p 13:26:03 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> it is a nice trains 13:26:14 <Stablean> <V453000> well mainly within a 3-year limited edition :o 13:26:31 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> you are using the E1 13:26:35 <Stablean> <V453000> yes 13:26:37 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> not the E4 13:26:43 <Stablean> <V453000> you can buy just E3 now, or what that is 13:26:51 <Stablean> <V453000> E4, yes 13:27:14 <Stablean> <V453000> E4 is ugly 13:27:37 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> its not as good looking 13:27:41 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> but same speed 13:27:45 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> so you could mix a few in 13:27:48 <Stablean> <V453000> well sure, same stats 13:27:54 <Stablean> <V453000> no :) 13:28:17 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> can you still build the E1 if you clone? 13:28:20 <Stablean> <V453000> no 13:28:49 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> thats why you have them stockpiled them 13:28:55 <Stablean> <V453000> ofc :) 13:31:04 <Stablean> <V453000> it actually did cost me ALL of my money at that time :o 13:32:52 <Stablean> <Phil> roads removed 13:32:56 <Stablean> <V453000> thanks 13:33:02 <Stablean> <V453000> just dont "help" others ;) 13:33:12 <Stablean> <V453000> it usually isnt as helful as you kindly expected 13:33:19 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> that sucks, all but the E1/4 have 100 pax per tile 13:33:25 <Stablean> <Phil> ok :) 13:33:25 <Stablean> <V453000> yes :) 13:35:35 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> V453000: my 4 trains 66-69 would work nicely aswell 13:35:49 <Stablean> <V453000> hehe 13:35:52 <Stablean> <V453000> no, E1 is the best :P 13:36:00 <Stablean> <V453000> but sure they would 13:36:02 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> yes I agree 13:36:20 <Stablean> <V453000> and my network can really benefit from the capacity, so ... :) 13:36:40 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> 66 and 69 are very similar 13:40:03 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I have never noticed how badly designed the speeds/accelerations of the Shinkansen 13:40:13 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> very few with same speed 13:40:19 <Stablean> <V453000> hm 13:40:35 <Stablean> *** V453000 has left the game (connection lost) 13:40:46 <V453000> take monorail shinkansen and be happy what we got :p 13:41:31 <Stablean> *** V453000 joined the game 13:42:47 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> is there anyway to make 2CCs TGVs run on same tracks as Shinkansens? 13:42:55 <Stablean> <V453000> hardly 13:43:20 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I wanted TGV + N700 so I could make a south korean style network 13:46:43 <Stablean> *** V453000 has left the game (connection lost) 13:47:34 <Stablean> *** V453000 joined the game 13:48:48 <Stablean> <V453000> oh :) 13:48:50 <Stablean> <V453000> still 13:48:56 <Stablean> <V453000> oh wtf 13:48:59 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> was wondering why Train 8 was stuck 13:49:09 <Stablean> <V453000> very wtf 13:49:21 <Stablean> <V453000> close .D 13:49:23 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> bang 13:50:07 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> you can open that line 13:50:13 <Stablean> <V453000> no caare 14:18:23 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I hate hay feaver 14:18:53 <Stablean> <Phil> i would too if i had it 14:19:29 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> good for you, I can't stop sneezing 14:19:44 <Stablean> <Phil> :/ 14:19:53 <Stablean> <V453000> my girlfriend has the same 14:20:03 <Stablean> <V453000> I have to say one probably cant imagine that until you have it 14:20:32 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> What I don't understand if why we don't have a cure for it 14:20:40 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> been annoying people for years 14:25:06 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> Phil: why buy all that land? 14:25:31 <Stablean> <V453000> lol 14:25:33 <Stablean> <Phil> stop any industries spawing or something stupid 14:25:36 <Stablean> <V453000> :) 14:25:42 <Stablean> <V453000> they wont 14:25:52 <Stablean> <V453000> just make the landscape unsmooth enough 14:25:59 <Stablean> <V453000> instead of buying this much land 14:26:05 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> yes 14:26:19 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> also that is very oversized 14:26:23 <Stablean> <Phil> last time i terraformed 14:26:29 <Stablean> <Phil> chris told me off 14:26:43 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I said do it within reason 14:26:51 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> TF in that case is better than buying land 14:27:03 <Stablean> <Phil> ok 14:27:19 <Stablean> <Phil> and yea it's over sized 14:27:22 <Stablean> <Phil> im going to fix it 14:27:24 <Stablean> <V453000> ofc in reasonable rates, as always :p 14:27:35 <Stablean> <Phil> i want that oil well to move first 14:27:41 <Stablean> <V453000> if you do it nicely, the TF will not be visible even 14:28:18 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> ooh and transmitters never die 14:28:24 <Stablean> <Phil> yeah i know :( 14:28:37 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop.stable 14:28:37 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o ODM 14:28:38 <Stablean> <Phil> i like to terraform like that inbetween track space 14:28:42 <Stablean> <Phil> it looks pretty 14:30:12 <Stablean> <Phil> can't we get magic bulldozer enabled? 14:30:22 <Stablean> <V453000> you know what would happen? 14:30:36 <Stablean> <Phil> allow admin use only :) 14:30:46 <Stablean> <V453000> I am just a client in game 14:30:48 <Stablean> <V453000> nothing more 14:30:50 <Stablean> <V453000> cant recognize 14:31:06 <Stablean> <Phil> no but sometimes admin are around 14:31:10 <Stablean> <Phil> they could remove stuff 14:31:14 <Stablean> <V453000> ... 14:31:16 <Stablean> <V453000> how 14:31:24 <Stablean> <Phil> with magic bulldozer 14:31:38 <Stablean> <V453000> you either allow dozer for all or no one 14:32:01 <Stablean> <Phil> surely someone smarter than me can modify the code to allow admin only no? 14:32:11 <Stablean> <V453000> there is no admin 14:32:13 <Stablean> <V453000> we are all clients 14:32:23 <Stablean> <V453000> but I guess it would be possible 14:32:30 <Stablean> <V453000> maybe :p 14:32:36 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> no it wouldn't 14:32:42 <Stablean> <Phil> so is this server a dedicated server? 14:32:42 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> since it is on or off 14:32:58 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> there is no client ID or name in the call of magic buldozer 14:33:02 <Stablean> <V453000> true 14:33:06 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> this is a dedicated server 14:33:20 <Stablean> <Phil> where's it hosted? 14:33:22 <Stablean> <V453000> but if you allowed certain actions only to clients X Y Z 14:33:51 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> as an admin you can only use rcon inside the server 14:42:22 *** Chris_Booth[LP] has joined #openttdcoop.stable 14:59:38 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> V453000: train 37 14:59:45 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> wrong signal 15:00:12 <Stablean> <V453000> uhh 15:00:14 <Stablean> <V453000> thx 15:01:44 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> V453000: !signal 15:01:57 <Stablean> <V453000> ffs :D the same one 15:02:16 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> well that was the last missing one I could see 15:03:14 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I wonder if work will miss me if I go home 1:30 hours early 15:03:28 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> and get a shower to stop me sneezing 15:06:04 <Chris_Booth[LP]> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZvm5H4F-aA&feature=player_embedded 15:06:05 <Webster> Title: YouTube - Extreme Trainsurfer (at www.youtube.com) 15:06:15 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> that is a carzy video 15:06:58 <Stablean> <Phil> is it ottd or someone actualy train surfing? 15:07:29 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> someone train surfing and ICE 3 15:08:11 <V453000> lol 15:08:37 <Stablean> <Phil> had to be japanese 15:08:41 <Stablean> <Phil> those guys are nutts 15:08:41 <Chris_Booth> stupid crazy kid 15:08:51 <Chris_Booth> no it was a german kid 15:09:04 <Stablean> <Phil> oh 15:09:22 <Stablean> <Phil> that train is in japan though right? 15:10:16 <Chris_Booth> no its a german ICE 3 15:11:26 <Stablean> <Phil> are well the only contry in the world with shit trains? 15:11:27 <Chris_Booth> I found a crazy south african guy dancing on a train 15:11:48 <Chris_Booth> germany has shit trains? 15:11:57 <Stablean> <Phil> im english :P 15:12:07 <Chris_Booth> we have some nice trains 15:12:31 <Stablean> <Phil> like what? :o 15:12:55 <Stablean> <Phil> by shit i really mean slow 15:13:02 <Chris_Booth> the Eurostar, Voyager, Pendalino, HST 125 HST 225. Javelin 15:13:08 <Chris_Booth> all faster than 125 mph 15:13:18 <Chris_Booth> lots of our trains are fast 15:13:30 <Stablean> <Phil> haha show what i know 15:13:31 <Chris_Booth> we have the most 125 MPH lines per square KM in the world 15:13:50 <Stablean> <Phil> fastest i've ever been on is 70mph from wakefield to leeds lol 15:14:05 <Stablean> <Phil> now that's surprising 15:14:07 <Chris_Booth> that is a commuter train 15:14:19 <Chris_Booth> we only have one 187 MPH line 15:14:19 <Stablean> <Phil> i would have expected japan to hold that title 15:14:58 <Chris_Booth> but we have Great Western, East Coast, West Coast and Grand Central Main Lines which are all 125MPH 15:15:10 <Chris_Booth> and then High Speed one which is 187 MPH 15:15:27 <Stablean> <Phil> high sped = london to kent i guess? 15:15:42 <Chris_Booth> london to channel tunnel yes 15:16:04 <Stablean> <Phil> expected so 15:16:14 <Stablean> <Phil> southerns get all the cool stuff :/ 15:16:39 <Chris_Booth> and High Speed 2 is in the planing stages 15:17:01 <Chris_Booth> London to Liverpool and Manchester 15:17:39 <Stablean> <Phil> do u work in the rail industry or something? 15:18:36 <Chris_Booth> no I am a computer engineer 15:19:30 <Stablean> <Phil> engineer? like acad designer or something? or techie? or systems admin? 15:20:58 <Chris_Booth> website and network admin 15:21:21 <Stablean> <Phil> i see 15:21:23 <Stablean> <Phil> cool job 15:21:29 <Stablean> <Phil> playing games all day :P 15:22:26 <Chris_Booth> yes until I get a ticket or phone call to do something 15:34:19 <Stablean> *** DnZ-Ali joined the game 15:34:23 <Stablean> <DnZ-Ali> Hi 15:34:34 <Stablean> <Phil> hey 15:35:07 <Stablean> <DnZ-Ali> why i cant connected to my company? 15:35:13 <Stablean> <Phil> password is 123 15:35:19 <Stablean> *** DnZ-Ali has joined company #7 15:35:23 <Stablean> <DnZ-Ali> tnx :D 15:35:29 <Stablean> <Phil> all passwords were reset i ge them all new oones 15:36:17 <Stablean> *** Chris Booth has left the game (leaving) 15:36:24 <Chris_Booth> I am off now 15:36:29 <Stablean> <V453000> cya 15:36:33 <Stablean> <Phil> cya 15:40:38 <Stablean> <Phil> im away now too for swim 15:40:42 <Stablean> <Phil> see ulater 15:40:44 <Stablean> <V453000> cya 15:41:08 <Stablean> *** Phil has left the game (leaving) 15:51:18 <Stablean> *** DnZ-Ali has joined spectators 15:53:37 <Stablean> *** DnZ-Ali has joined company #7 15:55:09 <Stablean> *** DnZ-Ali has left the game (leaving) 16:13:58 <Stablean> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving) 16:13:58 <Stablean> *** Game paused (number of players) 16:32:52 *** DayDreamer has joined #openttdcoop.stable 16:40:52 <Stablean> *** Iceman joined the game 16:42:59 <Stablean> *** Iceman has left the game (leaving) 17:32:44 *** md_ has joined #openttdcoop.stable 17:42:49 <Stablean> *** DnZ-Ali joined the game 17:43:17 <Stablean> *** DnZ-Ali has joined company #7 17:43:17 <Stablean> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 17:59:59 <Stablean> *** Phil joined the game 18:12:38 <Stablean> *** DnZ-Ali has joined spectators 18:34:15 *** Intexon has joined #openttdcoop.stable 18:35:38 <Stablean> *** DnZ-Ali has joined company #7 19:08:21 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure joined the game 19:08:27 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure has joined company #3 19:11:11 <Stablean> *** Chris Booth joined the game 19:11:19 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> hi Chris 19:11:22 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> hi Troy McClure 19:11:57 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> now we have lots of money what do you want to do? 19:12:11 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> err 19:12:25 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> Pax/ 19:12:28 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> ? 19:12:46 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> fine by me 19:12:49 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> k 19:12:51 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> what location 19:14:18 <Stablean> <Phil> who put that sign there about terraforming? 19:14:29 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> Troy McClure: 19:14:40 <Stablean> <Phil> umm 19:14:50 <Stablean> <Phil> thought u said it was better than buying land? 19:14:52 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> we it wasn't me 19:15:00 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> it is 19:15:06 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> to some extent 19:15:12 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> but make it look nice 19:15:26 <Stablean> <Phil> now im lost :/ 19:15:32 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> Troy McClure probably doesn't like the fact it is so obvious 19:17:00 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> something like that Phil 19:17:14 <Stablean> <Phil> ok :) 19:19:40 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yes 19:23:54 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> Phil just a quick question, have you read the server rules? 19:24:00 <Stablean> <Phil> yes 19:24:19 <Stablean> <Phil> why'd you ask? 19:24:38 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> just strange since you have been in here for a few games now, and you are still building without thinking of others 19:24:53 <Stablean> <Phil> where? 19:25:29 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> both !here signs to me are places you take up more room than needed 19:25:29 <Stablean> <Phil> umm 19:25:44 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> and leave others less room than I personaly would 19:25:56 <Stablean> <Phil> ali actualy thanked me for leaving space for him to double his lines 19:26:04 <Stablean> <Phil> so he seems happy with it 19:26:20 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> yes but why have a gap between bridges? 19:26:50 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> if you don't leave that gap you save so much space 19:27:00 <Stablean> <Phil> thought u saaid small diagonal makes trains slow and causes jams? 19:27:09 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> no 19:27:17 <Stablean> <Phil> err 19:27:19 <Stablean> <Phil> no? 19:27:24 <Stablean> <Phil> you did lol 19:27:49 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> not in that context 19:27:53 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I have show you what I mean 19:28:05 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> check !this 19:28:26 <Stablean> <Phil> ok i never knew 19:28:52 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> its fine, but asking never hurts 19:28:58 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> if you don;t understand then just ask 19:29:00 <Stablean> <Phil> i thought since said slow oshort diagonal ill mae em longer :) 19:29:16 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> only when you are turning 90 degrees 19:29:32 <Stablean> <Phil> ok i now i know 19:29:40 <Stablean> <Phil> but you never said so at the time 19:30:02 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> and all of those empty platforms are just a waste, but in somecase good if you expect lots of traffic 19:30:26 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> a gener rule for station is a track can take ~ 7-10 platforms 19:30:44 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> anything more than that you will need 2 lines each dirction 19:31:13 <Stablean> <Phil> i don't have a staion more than 6 playform nevermind 7 19:31:48 <Stablean> <Phil> i was told by someone the other day that never pickup and drop off at the same station 19:31:54 <Stablean> <Phil> apparenlty it a coop rule 19:32:04 <Stablean> <Phil> so thata's what i've tried to avoid 19:32:23 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> yes that is very good rule of thumb 19:32:36 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> but you can drop more than one cargo at the same station 19:32:54 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> you just don't want to mix you droping trains an pickup trains 19:33:16 <Stablean> <Phil> aha i see so i could use steel and coal drop as one? 19:33:16 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> or you primary pickups with goods or steel 19:33:19 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> yes 19:33:33 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> in coop we generaly say 1 pickup per cargo 19:33:47 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> 1 drop per industry area 19:33:57 <Stablean> <Phil> ok 19:34:12 <Stablean> <Phil> if i had shared orders on my trains i'd fix that 19:34:20 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> yeah it fine 19:34:24 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> you will pick these things up 19:34:45 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> as you can see you are one of the good builders out there 19:35:01 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> just stick with it, and you will learn 19:35:15 <Stablean> <Phil> yeah 19:35:25 <Stablean> <Phil> it's why i play here now, to learn from you guys 19:35:39 <Stablean> <Phil> because as far as i can tell, you peeps are the best 19:35:47 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> if you want to play with one of us just ask, I am sure people will let you join them 19:36:16 <Stablean> <Phil> cool 19:36:23 <Stablean> <Phil> do you know a player named brakes? 19:36:35 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> no never played here I don;t think 19:36:42 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I only played on coop servers 19:37:08 <Stablean> <Phil> i haven'tseen him for 2 years, but he was really good 19:37:16 <Stablean> <Phil> best builder i've ever seen 19:37:32 <Stablean> <Phil> i thought maybe he played here years ago, but seems not 19:38:05 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> you should look at our archives there is some crazy stuff in there 19:38:36 <Stablean> <Phil> yeah i've seen 19:38:42 <Stablean> <Phil> some are bugged though 19:38:57 <Stablean> <Phil> like trains that don't move but no signals wrong etc 19:38:59 <Stablean> <Phil> :/ 19:39:10 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> no none are buged, you just need the GRFs listed and the game revision listed 19:39:15 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> we use alot of new GRFs 19:39:25 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> most of which are found in the GRF pack 19:39:39 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> or in the openttd Download Client 19:39:49 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> but some old ones are very hard to find 19:40:07 <Stablean> <Phil> yeah i thought some maybe even nolonger existed 19:40:13 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> if you find a save the realy doesn't work please tell us 19:40:24 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> most of them should 19:40:38 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I have all the GRFs from ~ PGS 80 - now 19:40:46 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> so I can help you with most of them 19:41:00 <Stablean> <Phil> excellent 19:42:16 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> Phil: we also run a slighty more extreme server than this 19:42:26 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> but you need to have nighlty release of openttd to run it 19:42:32 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> and to join our IRC channel 19:42:44 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> so it takes a bit more effort to find it 19:42:58 <Stablean> <Phil> yeah i was in there the other day 19:43:34 <Stablean> <Phil> i'd sooner learn as much a poss here though irst 19:43:43 <Stablean> <DnZ-Ali> CB in nightly version can play everything? 19:43:58 <Stablean> <DnZ-Ali> not must be coop players? 19:44:15 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> DnZ-Ali: you can play on any server running that version 19:44:19 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> same as with stable version 19:44:36 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> but I think coop is one of the few servers left running nightly releases 19:45:09 <Stablean> <DnZ-Ali> yea a see coop nigtly but have password 19:46:17 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> yes we do DnZ-Ali, you need to join the IRC channel to get the password 19:46:20 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> anyone can get it 19:46:30 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> www.openttdcoop.org/IRC 19:46:36 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> then chose a nick 19:46:42 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> and type !password 19:46:48 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> and it will give you the password 19:47:03 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> or you can use your own client such as chatzilla or mIRC 19:47:09 <Stablean> <DnZ-Ali> tnx CB 19:47:21 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> and join us on irc.oftc.net/openttdcoop 19:48:48 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure has left the game (leaving) 19:49:25 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I am off now bye bye guys 19:49:27 <Stablean> *** Chris Booth has left the game (leaving) 19:53:43 <Stablean> <DnZ-Ali> bye 19:53:45 <Stablean> <Phil> cya 19:53:50 <Stablean> *** DnZ-Ali has left the game (leaving) 20:25:30 <Stablean> *** TWerkhoven has left the game (connection lost) 20:25:57 *** TWerkhoven has quit IRC 21:28:18 *** DayDreamer has quit IRC 21:31:26 <Stablean> *** Chris Booth joined the game 21:31:58 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> Phil: are you still here? 21:37:39 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure joined the game 21:38:31 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> hi Troy McClure 21:38:37 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> hi again 21:38:51 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> any idea on where you want to pax? 21:39:13 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> near our area 21:39:27 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> im not really the one for long distance pax 21:39:27 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> all towns? 21:39:33 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> id like to see towns grow :P 21:39:59 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> you know that breaks the rules just growing towns 21:40:31 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> how? because of difficulties loading/ 21:41:18 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> no you need to send pax somewhere not just grow towns 21:41:28 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> oh, but i will send the pax somewhere 21:41:42 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> to hell? 21:41:49 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> no, to other towns 21:41:59 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> hell is a town :P 21:42:13 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> Im checking town directory 21:42:19 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> dont see Hell mentioned there... 21:42:22 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hell,_Norway 21:42:23 <Webster> Title: Hell, Norway - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at en.wikipedia.org) 21:42:24 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> :P 21:42:30 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> aah, 21:42:32 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> hell is in norway 21:42:38 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> but it's not in this game now is it/ 21:43:02 *** ODM has quit IRC 21:43:50 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> no 21:44:09 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> does that mean Hell freezes over quickly/ 21:44:22 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> very true 21:44:29 <Stablean> *** Chris Booth has joined company #3 21:44:47 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> ok I am getting ride of our trains 21:44:55 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> why/ 21:44:58 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> pax 21:46:28 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> WTF @ Train 50/51 21:46:32 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> was that you Troy McClure? 21:46:42 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> probably 21:46:50 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> realy? 21:47:03 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> was working further down the line 21:47:07 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> or was it me depoting the trains? 21:51:57 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> last 2 trains 21:52:22 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> last train 21:52:25 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> bye bye trians 21:56:06 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> wow what a mess I made 21:59:17 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> woot 21:59:38 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> let use a mix of trains 21:59:45 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I am layout out all the combos 21:59:47 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> #6 :) 21:59:52 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> lol 22:00:55 <Stablean> <Phil> oh 22:01:03 <Stablean> <Phil> uve killed your network 22:01:21 <Stablean> <Phil> can i use your industries? 22:01:37 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> please don't 22:01:43 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> we are making pax 22:01:57 <Stablean> <Phil> what is a pax? 22:02:09 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> Passenger Express 22:02:28 <Stablean> <Phil> so passenger only? 22:02:37 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> yes but we need the land 22:02:49 <Stablean> <Phil> yeah it's ok i get that 22:03:07 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> once we have layed our lines you can move in 22:03:19 <Stablean> <Phil> ok :) 22:04:07 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> Troy McClure: check train ard 22:04:29 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> see it :P 22:04:32 <Stablean> <Phil> jeez 22:04:42 <Stablean> <Phil> train yard = easy cloning? 22:04:44 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> every train in every livery 22:04:46 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> yes 22:04:56 <Stablean> <Phil> i like it :) 22:05:52 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I love these trains CL3 @ 300km/h 22:05:54 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> sick 22:08:59 <Stablean> <Phil> is there anyway to upgrade to maglev without giving me nightmares? 22:09:08 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> nope 22:09:24 <Stablean> <Phil> someone should make an easier way heh 22:09:26 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> maglev is pax only aswell 22:09:33 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> there is called universal rail 22:09:35 <Stablean> <Phil> oh 22:09:41 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> but we only load it when it is needed 22:09:51 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> since this maglev is pax only 22:09:59 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> and starts in 1960s there is no reason to load it 22:10:13 <Stablean> <Phil> ok 22:12:19 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> train 16 is super ugly 22:16:27 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> Troy McClure: what now? 22:16:29 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> just expand? 22:16:35 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yep 22:17:10 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> and add bus feeders, i guess 22:33:36 <Stablean> <Phil> why doesn't this prio trigger and how do i make it work? 22:34:41 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> because 22:34:51 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> you've got exit signals right after it 22:35:09 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> a presignal searches for A free path 22:35:44 <Stablean> <Phil> is there anything i can do to make it work? 22:35:55 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> remove the exit signals right after it 22:36:21 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> but that would ruin the balancing you "have" with the presignals there 22:36:35 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> why do all japanese train have to look like they a draw by kids on crack? 22:36:49 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> because they are, chris 22:36:51 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> they are... 22:36:53 <Stablean> <Phil> ok i leave it then :/ 22:37:02 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I have a way to fix it 22:37:26 <Stablean> <Phil> shoot :) 22:38:05 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> bb 22:38:07 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> im off 22:38:13 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> bb Troy McClure 22:38:13 <Stablean> <Phil> cya troy 22:38:19 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure has left the game (leaving) 22:38:39 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> Phil: chesk !hist 22:39:55 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> that will fix it 22:40:01 <Stablean> <Phil> haha jesus 22:40:11 <Stablean> <Phil> who actually worked these out? 22:40:17 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> its realy simple 22:40:23 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> lots of us 22:40:37 <Stablean> <Phil> must have taken a while 22:41:01 <Stablean> <Phil> yeah that angle's beter 22:41:05 <Stablean> <Phil> infact 22:41:11 <Stablean> <Phil> i hate japanese signals 22:41:17 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I know 22:41:19 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> hard to see 22:41:25 <Stablean> <Phil> yeah :/ 22:41:27 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> makes it look simple that way 22:41:28 *** md_ has quit IRC 22:42:06 <Stablean> <Phil> ok ill go give this a go 22:42:30 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> just use the query tool if you don't know what signal is what 22:43:15 <Stablean> <Phil> never knew query told you the signals too :O 22:43:25 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> it does 22:43:37 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> tells you everything from station types 22:43:39 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> to bridge type 22:43:49 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> track speed limits if you use nutracks 22:43:53 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> signal types 22:43:55 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> ow 22:44:01 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> owner 22:44:34 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I have made that funny turn in mine so it isn't accessable 22:46:06 <Stablean> <Phil> ok 22:46:09 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> if you add 2 reversed 2way PBS signals then the none priored track can join is a train is on one bridge 22:46:19 <Stablean> <Phil> what am i missing? 22:46:57 <Stablean> <Phil> doh do it again i missed it :/ 22:47:27 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> look at 1 in my building 22:49:12 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> now it will work how you expect it to 22:49:25 <Stablean> <Phil> that's sweet 22:49:35 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I know 22:49:41 <Stablean> <Phil> not sure why it works though 22:49:55 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> aaah I will show you 22:50:48 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> check !this 22:50:51 <Stablean> <Phil> yep im watching 22:51:21 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> see that as soon as a train enters my prior block, it make the entrance red 22:51:39 <Stablean> <Phil> yep 22:52:21 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> when it hits the PBS it now reserves a path over 1 birdge 22:52:36 <Stablean> <Phil> aha 22:53:03 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> so for a train to be able to entre our track it needs 2 conditions to be true 22:53:13 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> 1 no trains inside our prior block 22:53:23 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> 2 a free PBS block over a bridge 22:53:53 <Stablean> <Phil> it's bridge pbs i don't understand 22:53:55 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> as soon as the train clears the reversed PBS is clears a path 22:54:11 <Stablean> <Phil> why place them baclwards? 22:54:12 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> without them it does that 22:54:39 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> so trains on the ML will take the block upto the next normal block signal 22:54:59 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> if you place them forward train may choce the wrong bridge 22:55:17 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> like that see 22:55:27 <Stablean> <Phil> i see 22:55:43 <Stablean> <Phil> but how does it being backwards help it? 22:55:54 <Stablean> <Phil> i mean it can't see the dsingal right? 22:56:09 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> no it can 22:56:51 <Stablean> <Phil> im a total newb when it comes to pbs 22:56:54 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> if you go to advanced setting, then interface, then display can click the show reserved track 22:57:16 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> tell me once you have done that 22:57:26 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> and I will show you have a backwards PBS does 22:57:37 <Stablean> <Phil> done 22:58:28 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> see train 25 22:58:31 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> and 26 22:58:41 <Stablean> <Phil> yes 22:58:47 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> 25 make the track dark 22:58:57 <Stablean> <Phil> yes 22:59:03 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> that is reserving the path 22:59:07 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> whil 26 doesnt 22:59:57 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> now watch 25 23:00:23 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> the backward PBS blocks all the track 23:00:40 <Stablean> <Phil> yeah i see 23:00:46 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> or atleast until it finds a block signal 23:01:31 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> so you do that over the bridges it allows the entrance track (which has no PBS) 23:01:39 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> to function similar to a PBS track 23:01:45 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> is all the conditions are correct 23:02:39 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> and you will be able to see that happen if you leave that option enabled 23:02:59 <Stablean> <Phil> yyeah i'll leave this option on 23:03:48 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> once you know what signals do its easy to get the layout you want 23:04:18 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> you can even make memory signals and NOT OR and AND gates 23:04:25 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> to make trains to realy funky things 23:04:55 <Stablean> <Phil> what be meory signals? :O 23:09:16 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> you fill those memory blocks 23:10:07 <Stablean> <Phil> i've no idea what's happening lol 23:12:09 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> its just a not gate 23:12:15 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> with a memory cell 23:12:45 <Stablean> <Phil> how and when is this useful? 23:13:11 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> well if you want to split a line 50/50 23:13:17 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> one left an one right 23:13:23 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> then you need 2 of those 23:13:57 <Stablean> <Phil> this is way byond me for now lol 23:14:23 <Stablean> <Phil> what about something i've seen on youtube call a cyclatron or something 23:14:29 <Stablean> <Phil> they look cool and usefull 23:14:47 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> the not gate it self is very useful 23:15:11 <Stablean> <Phil> does a cyclatron use a not gate? 23:15:59 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> not even sure what a cyclthingy does 23:16:17 <Stablean> <Phil> it's a circle that's prt of a prio 23:16:42 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> ooh I know what you mean now 23:16:44 <Stablean> <Phil> it keeps the give way train running a full speed qhile waiting to be injected 23:16:52 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> the train runs at full speed until it can join 23:16:59 <Stablean> <Phil> yes :) 23:17:22 <Stablean> <Phil> kinda like an overflow for prio i huess 23:18:23 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> watch that station 23:18:54 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> when its full it makes trains circle 23:19:15 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> when a space comes free a train entres 23:19:25 <Stablean> <Phil> haha that's neat 23:20:53 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> we also use them for Self Regulating pickup stations 23:21:04 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> building overflows 23:21:10 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> tight packing trains 23:21:13 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> and all sorts of things 23:21:33 <Stablean> <Phil> one day i wantto be able to do all this 23:21:36 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> http://blog.openttdcoop.org/2010/01/13/fail-safe-joiners-priorities-and-the-cyclotron-example/ 23:21:50 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> that will tell you about the cyclatron 23:21:57 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> and a better sollution to fail safe joining 23:22:18 <Stablean> <Phil> can i copy and paste from in this game? 23:22:28 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> no 23:22:38 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> but if you go on the openttd coop website 23:22:48 <Stablean> <Phil> yeah i've found it 23:22:50 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> and search fail safe it is the first blog 23:24:35 <Stablean> <Phil> wtf 23:24:35 <Stablean> <Phil> my ore mines must have boomed 23:24:35 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> what? 23:24:35 <Stablean> <Phil> so much steel 23:24:35 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> they will do that 23:24:35 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> Phil: check !thic 23:24:35 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> this 23:24:43 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> that is another use for the momory cells 23:24:49 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> to catch trains in depots 23:25:08 <Stablean> <Phil> cathc them? 23:25:14 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> catch them 23:25:20 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> look at my trains in the depot 23:25:23 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> they are all green 23:25:29 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> and wanting to go 23:25:32 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> but they cant 23:25:35 <Stablean> <Phil> oh 23:26:27 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> when you add logic gate to a game you can do things endlessly 23:26:38 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> in theory you could build a simple CPU with openttd 23:27:24 <Stablean> <Phil> in what way? 23:27:46 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> in the way you could do simple maths on it 23:27:52 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> like 6 x 12 23:27:56 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> or 21/3 23:28:31 <Stablean> <Phil> not sure what to make of that lol 23:29:11 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> well its only in theory no one has yet made a counting machine with openttd 23:29:18 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> but it is possible 23:29:44 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I think there is a tt-forum post about making a CPU with openttd 23:30:34 <Stablean> <Phil> this hame just got a whole lot more complex 23:30:44 <Stablean> <Phil> way more than i ever expected 23:36:09 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> well it doesn't need to be complex 23:36:19 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> only as complex as you see fun 23:36:38 <Stablean> <Phil> heh 23:36:44 <Stablean> <Phil> if it's doable 23:36:50 <Stablean> <Phil> i want to do it :) 23:36:56 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> what make a CPU 23:37:00 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> it is 23:37:04 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> and it has been done 23:37:11 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?t=51710 23:37:12 <Webster> Title: Transport Tycoon Forums View topic - Logic with logic trains (at www.tt-forums.net) 23:37:13 <Stablean> <Phil> anything doable in game i want to able to do 23:37:24 <Stablean> <Phil> pretty much lie you can 23:37:27 <Stablean> <Phil> like 23:37:43 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> that is an ALU made by mfb 23:38:33 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> if you want next game I will teach you some simple openttd logic and uses 23:38:47 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> and we will make a self regulating primary network 23:39:13 <Stablean> <Phil> self regulatin primary netwprk sounds fun :D 23:39:35 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> just means trains have 1 orders, Entrance Exit Drop 23:39:41 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> and the primary is in the middle 23:40:42 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> check !this 23:40:45 <Stablean> <Phil> i see 23:40:51 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> that is a simple self reg station 23:41:54 <Stablean> <Phil> the other train does whaat exactly? 23:42:19 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> watch it 23:42:46 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> in our network next time it will full load 23:43:00 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> then the trains on the SL will wait infront of the station 23:44:19 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> that setup 23:44:47 <Stablean> <Phil> what does that other train do though? 23:44:49 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> so the dummy train ful loads 23:44:52 <Stablean> <Phil> the on that goes nowhere 23:45:04 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> then once it full load it allows the train in from the SL 23:45:15 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> which picks up good via the transfer order 23:45:27 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> so all trains full load on the SL 23:47:36 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> you will see next game when we build it 23:47:53 <Stablean> <Phil> yeah because right now it make no sense to me:/ 23:48:02 <Stablean> <Phil> in a full game though maybe it will 23:48:23 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> if you search SRNW in our blog 23:48:29 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> you will find more out about it 23:48:41 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I am off now 23:48:45 <Stablean> *** Chris Booth has left the game (leaving)