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Log for #openttdcoop.stable on 25th June 2011:
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00:00:22  <Stablean> *** dh2k3 has left the game (connection lost)
00:04:00  <Stablean> Sylf: you must be channel op to use getsave
00:04:13  <Sylf> bleh
00:04:41  <Stablean> <Anson> but another serious question : what about teleporting cargo ?
00:04:55  *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Sylf
00:05:15  <Sylf> Let's not get too technical about it
00:05:37  <Sylf> !rcon pwd
00:05:37  <Stablean> Sylf: /home/ottdc/svn-stable/autopilot/save/uploads/
00:05:42  <Sylf> !rcon ls
00:05:42  <Stablean> Sylf: 0) .. (Parent directory)
00:05:42  <Stablean> Sylf: 1) archive/ (Directory)
00:05:42  <Stablean> Sylf: 2) StableArcS01.sav
00:05:42  <Stablean> Sylf: 3) StableTemp64.sav
00:05:42  <Stablean> Sylf: 4) StableArc28.sav
00:05:43  <Stablean> Sylf: you have 18 more messages
00:05:43  <Stablean> <Anson> there were several spots on the map where trucks a zero distance for delivering cargo, probably to increase production rates of some resiuece ... but that also would be a method to avoid terraforming water, building bridges, etc ...
00:06:02  <Sylf> !rcon load 2
00:06:06  <Stablean> *** Game still paused (manual, number of players)
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00:06:22  <Sylf> !rcon reset_company 1
00:06:23  <Stablean> Sylf: Company deleted.
00:06:28  <Sylf> !auto
00:06:28  <Stablean> *** Sylf has enabled autopause mode.
00:06:30  <Stablean> *** Game still paused (number of players)
00:06:59  <Sylf> hrm, that's not the map I wanted...
00:07:26  <Stablean> <Anson> you want to use standard industries again ?
00:07:56  <Sylf> !pause
00:07:56  <Stablean> *** Sylf has paused the server.
00:08:13  <Sylf> yeah, standard tropical map, even more water
00:08:30  <Sylf> maybe the server doesn't have CHIPS 0.7
00:08:36  <Stablean> *** haxx has left the game (leaving)
00:09:10  <Stablean> <Anson> in the currenmt map, TL is 5 and station spread is 8, just as the last map
00:09:32  <Stablean> <Anson> i am not opposed to it ... just a reminder whether it is intended
00:10:00  <Sylf> yeah, this map is pretty much like the last one
00:10:10  <Sylf> including all the faults, like no cost mod, 90 deg turn
00:12:16  <Stablean> <Anson> there are players from the USA and australia ... they like big trains ... someday (not now!), they should get a mapwith large distance, few trains, huge trainlength and weight multiplyer, and then they can show how to build a train with 100 cars and 10 locos :-) LOL
00:15:28  <Sylf> trying this map again... /me crosses his fingers
00:15:34  <Sylf> !rcon ls
00:15:34  <Stablean> Sylf: 0) .. (Parent directory)
00:15:34  <Stablean> Sylf: 1) archive/ (Directory)
00:15:34  <Stablean> Sylf: 2) StableArcS01.sav
00:15:34  <Stablean> Sylf: 3) StableTemp64.sav
00:15:34  <Stablean> Sylf: 4) StableArc28.sav
00:15:35  <Stablean> Sylf: you have 18 more messages
00:15:53  <Sylf> !more
00:15:54  <Stablean> Sylf: 5) stableTemp63fix.sav
00:15:54  <Stablean> Sylf: 6) StableTemp63.sav
00:15:54  <Stablean> Sylf: 7) StableTrop18.sav
00:15:54  <Stablean> Sylf: 8) StableArc27.sav
00:15:54  <Stablean> Sylf: 9) CB_Stable.sav
00:15:55  <Stablean> Sylf: you have 13 more messages
00:15:58  <Sylf> !more
00:15:58  <Stablean> Sylf: 10) StableTemp62a.sav
00:15:58  <Stablean> Sylf: 11) StableTemp62.sav
00:15:58  <Stablean> Sylf: 12) StableTemp61.sav
00:15:59  <Stablean> Sylf: 13) StableTrop17.sav
00:15:59  <Stablean> Sylf: 14) StableTemp60a.sav
00:16:01  <Stablean> Sylf: you have 8 more messages
00:16:04  <Sylf> !more
00:16:04  <Stablean> Sylf: 15) StableTemp60.sav
00:16:04  <Stablean> Sylf: 16) StableArc27b.sav
00:16:04  <Stablean> Sylf: 17) StableArc26.sav
00:16:05  <Stablean> Sylf: 18) StableTOY04.sav
00:16:05  <Stablean> Sylf: 19) StableTOY03.sav
00:16:07  <Stablean> Sylf: you have 3 more messages
00:16:09  <Sylf> !more
00:16:09  <Stablean> Sylf: 20) StableTemp59.sav
00:16:09  <Stablean> Sylf: 21) StableArc25.sav
00:16:09  <Stablean> Sylf: 22) StableTrop16.sav
00:16:33  <Sylf> dang it
00:17:54  <Sylf> !rcon ls
00:17:54  <Stablean> Sylf: 0) .. (Parent directory)
00:17:54  <Stablean> Sylf: 1) archive/ (Directory)
00:17:54  <Stablean> Sylf: 2) StableTropS01.sav
00:17:54  <Stablean> Sylf: 3) StableArcS01.sav
00:17:54  <Stablean> Sylf: 4) StableTemp64.sav
00:17:55  <Stablean> Sylf: you have 19 more messages
00:17:58  <Sylf> there we go
00:18:07  <Sylf> !rcon load 2
00:18:08  <Stablean> *** Game still paused (manual, number of players)
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00:18:23  <Sylf> !auto
00:18:23  <Stablean> *** Sylf has enabled autopause mode.
00:18:25  <Stablean> *** Game still paused (number of players)
00:18:29  <Sylf> !rcon reset_company 1
00:18:29  <Stablean> Sylf: Company deleted.
00:18:43  <Stablean> <Sylf> There, this should be a good map
00:19:05  <Stablean> <Sylf> Go nuts :)
00:20:01  <Stablean> <Sylf> I'm gonna play this in a few hours myself
00:29:03  <Stablean> <Anson> people will get crazy about the islands and gaps between them :-)
00:29:05  <Stablean> *** doonz has left the game (general error)
00:29:58  <Stablean> <Anson> TL6, spread 9, tunnel 64 (no insane 2048 :-), but bridges only 10 on this map ... we'll have to see
00:29:58  <Stablean> *** doonz joined the game
00:30:37  <Stablean> <Anson> hallo, doonz ... just started a few minutes ago, still no players and thus still startdate ... let's have a look first while time is stopped :-)
00:32:11  <Stablean> <doonz> hey!
00:32:14  <Stablean> <doonz> sorry was just getting breakfast :D
00:32:37  <Stablean> <Anson> bridge length 10 ... will be quite interesting :-)
00:33:07  <Stablean> <doonz> indeed :o
00:34:53  <Stablean> <doonz> vehicle running costs: low :D
00:34:59  <Stablean> *** Sylf has left the game (connection lost)
00:38:47  <Stablean> *** doonz has started a new company (#1)
00:38:47  <Stablean> *** Game unpaused (number of players)
00:39:04  <Stablean> <Anson> LOL
00:39:07  <Stablean> <doonz> :D
00:39:33  <Stablean> *** Anson has started a new company (#2)
00:45:08  <Stablean> *** Anson has joined spectators
00:45:37  <Stablean> <Anson> LOL ... started a tram, stupidly assuming i could transport goods with iot :-)
00:45:41  <Stablean> <doonz> hahah :)
00:45:56  <Stablean> <Anson> then i tried to commit suicide by buying a ship and an airplane
00:46:01  <Stablean> <Anson> THERE ARE NONE
00:46:08  <Stablean> <doonz> wow
00:46:15  <Stablean> <Anson> it is 1921, and there are neither planes nor ships yet
00:46:37  <Stablean> <doonz> that sucks :d
00:47:17  <Stablean> <Anson> but a company with no assets is deleted almost immediately  when you leave
00:47:33  <Stablean> *** Anson has started a new company (#2)
00:48:17  <Stablean> <doonz> Anson transport has been closed down!
00:48:19  <Stablean> <doonz> oh no!
00:48:21  <Stablean> <doonz> :p
00:48:31  <Stablean> <Anson> that was from leaving the game
00:48:44  <Stablean> <Anson> the message came only after i had started a new company :-)
00:49:49  <Stablean> *** Anson has joined spectators
00:50:29  <Stablean> <Anson> can't they invent new icons at the top when they create new grfs, eg tram rails for a tram, instead of roads for both, trams and roads ?
00:50:48  <Stablean> <doonz> i think they can
00:51:10  <Stablean> <Anson> possible, yes ... but whether they can ... :-)
00:51:31  <Stablean> <doonz> ^^
00:54:13  <Stablean> *** Anson has started a new company (#2)
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00:57:49  <Stablean> <Anson> guess what ....
00:57:53  <Stablean> <doonz> what hahaha
00:58:11  <Stablean> <Anson> there are as many trucks in the game as there are freight trams, ships or aircraft :-)
00:58:11  <Stablean> *** doonz has joined spectators
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00:58:16  <Stablean> *** doonz has joined company #1
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00:58:25  <Stablean> <doonz> wow
00:58:33  <Stablean> <Anson> none :-(
00:58:47  <Stablean> <doonz> wut
00:58:57  <Stablean> <doonz> there will be car vehicles later tho
00:59:46  <Stablean> <Anson> what do i care for that now ? ... i need to transport something by 10-15 tiles only ... and now i need to set up a train for that :-)
01:00:08  <Stablean> <doonz> :P
01:07:11  <Stablean> <Anson> watching TV now ... recorded earlier in the evening : new series : falling sky and crusader, and next week also caprica
01:07:23  <Stablean> <doonz> oo
01:07:25  <Stablean> <doonz> ill have to look those ones up
01:08:12  <Stablean> <Anson> crusader = spin-off from babylon 5
01:08:28  <Stablean> <Anson> caprica = spin-off from battlestar galactica
01:08:58  <Stablean> <Anson> but over here, they are new on tv :-) .-(
01:09:05  <Stablean> <doonz> haha
01:09:11  <Stablean> <doonz> well we dont get many of the new tv shows
01:09:15  <Stablean> <doonz> i usually download them
01:09:41  <Stablean> <Anson> i pay a little and get IPTV ... 105 stations :-)
01:09:56  <Stablean> <doonz> haha... i would watch too much tv if i had that :p
01:10:11  <Stablean> <Anson> not counting 30 more which are just copies of each other besides half an hour of regonal news
01:10:30  <Stablean> <doonz> wow
01:10:36  <Stablean> <doonz> this town wont let me build near it
01:10:42  <Stablean> <doonz> and i cant plant trees to increase my rating
01:10:42  <Stablean> <doonz> lol
01:11:50  <Stablean> <Anson> you get +rating for serviced stations near a town, and -rating for unservuiced stations ... and of course big -rating for detroying houses and roads
01:12:38  <Stablean> <Anson> too bad when the rating goes down for one unservices industry while you haven't built a station for resources yet in the same town :-(
01:12:49  <Stablean> *** Anson has started a new company (#2)
01:12:51  <Stablean> <doonz> yup :(
01:25:10  <Stablean> <Anson> where can i drop goods ? anywhere ?
01:25:50  <Stablean> <doonz> hmm dunno lol
01:25:52  <Stablean> <doonz> none of the towns near me accept goods :/
01:53:04  <Stablean> <Anson> now we get ships ... passenger ferry for only 194 mio $ :-)
01:53:19  <Stablean> <doonz> i want cars haha
01:54:46  <Stablean> <Anson> you had bought too many trains ?
01:56:41  <Stablean> <doonz> afk
02:01:55  <Stablean> <doonz> back
02:02:03  <Stablean> <doonz> the fruit trains werent making any money :9
02:18:29  <Stablean> <Anson> nice ... you are making profit ... seems i have lost some time on building too short transports at first
02:18:52  <Stablean> <doonz> :D
02:19:02  <Stablean> <Anson> i thought that i might get money from the second stage, goods ... but couldn't find a place to sell them
02:20:11  <Stablean> <doonz> i thought oil would be making alot
02:21:13  <Stablean> <Anson> only when the distance is long enough
02:21:23  <Stablean> <Anson> else running costs eat the profit
02:21:45  <Stablean> <doonz> stupid slow trains :[
02:22:07  <Stablean> <Anson> i get 13k$ for one transport now, with long distance
02:22:18  <Stablean> <doonz> how much does it cost to run tho?
02:22:53  <Stablean> <Anson> the short distance transport has -6k$ profit
02:23:19  <Stablean> <Anson> have a look at my finance window yourself
02:23:41  <Stablean> <Anson> tw years ago, i had only the first three stations, and 1-2 extra trains at each station for future growth
02:24:19  <Stablean> <Anson> last year, i sold the extra trains and built a longer route ... the result can be seen for this year
02:24:29  <Stablean> <doonz> wow
02:24:35  <Stablean> <doonz> you're going to overtake me:D
02:27:14  <Stablean> <doonz> gotta wait so long for the next season of game of thrones to come out :(
02:43:19  <Stablean> *** Sylf joined the game
02:43:23  <Stablean> <Sylf> hey hey
02:43:25  <Stablean> <Sylf> how's the map?
02:43:43  <Stablean> <Anson> three bancriptcies before i started :-)
02:43:49  <Stablean> <Sylf> >_<  ouch
02:44:23  <Stablean> <Anson> first, i had stupidly assumed that trams wiould have freight cars ... and then wanted to bencrupt my company by buaing a ship
02:44:45  <Stablean> <Anson> but there were no ships, no airplanes, no freight trams, and not even trucks
02:45:32  <Stablean> <Anson> had to start over and did oil ... but oil with trains on a short truck-route is too costly (running costs are almost higher than a new engine)
02:46:18  <Stablean> <Anson> just started my second longer distance transport, and THAT is doing fine now
02:47:09  <Stablean> <Anson> i think many people will start with bancruptcies ... and several people will build large distance transports across the whole map ... as far as the short bridges and lots of water allow :-) LOL
02:47:43  <Stablean> <Sylf> yeah, that's why I've built 2 water filled maps
02:47:57  <Stablean> <Anson> just have a look at our two companies' finace windows, and you know the problems :-)
02:48:52  <Stablean> <Anson> income 188k$, but running costs -95k$, property maintenance -25k$, and loan
02:49:10  <Stablean> <Sylf> let's see if I can catch up :)
02:49:13  <Stablean> *** Sylf has started a new company (#3)
02:49:43  <Stablean> <Anson> hehe, NOW there are ships, passenger trams, and you know to build long distance ....
02:49:57  <Stablean> <Anson> (hehe, as if you are a beginner who can't find out by himself :-)
02:50:36  <Stablean> <Sylf> I've had my share of failed companies :)
02:52:39  <Stablean> <Anson> my biggest problem : i wantd to maybe make some money with the oil, but most of all get lots of goods and sell them long distance ... but WHERE ?
02:54:24  <Stablean> <Anson> nice engine ... available since few years only :-(
02:54:33  <Stablean> <Sylf> yup
02:54:51  <Stablean> <Anson> hehe, that's why you started only now ? .-)
02:55:02  <Stablean> <Sylf> kinda :)
02:55:27  <Stablean> <Sylf> I went outside to do yard work, shopping, dinner etc after starting this map
02:55:45  <Stablean> <Anson> where are you from ?
02:55:51  <Stablean> <Sylf> and it gives enough time for people to play some, and bring some new engines
02:55:55  <Stablean> <Anson> here, it is 5 am :-)
02:56:01  <Stablean> <Sylf> It's 10 PM here
02:56:28  <Stablean> <doonz> 11am here :p
02:57:02  <Stablean> <Anson> did you just get offered a new train ?
02:57:08  <Stablean> <doonz> nope
02:58:21  <Stablean> <Anson> i would like it when that offer (and also the "buy" window") would include whether cars may be added to an engine, and for cars what can be refitted and how much cargo will be available then (if it is not 1 crate = 1 box = 1 tin = 1000 litres)
02:59:31  <Stablean> <Anson> there are locos which carry passengers, and there are shortz trains where no cars can be added ... lots of experience needed with all those different grfs, when there is no such info to read up easily
03:01:30  <Stablean> <Anson> oh well ... first transport payed for running costs and new vehicles, second and third will pay off the construction
03:03:21  <Stablean> <Anson> but i found a possible improvement, even for Sylf :-)
03:04:34  <Stablean> <Anson> in another game, i learned that it mostly is a good idea to set "no loading" for the onload order
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04:07:00  <Stablean> <Player> name Atronarch
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04:16:49  <Stablean> <Anson> OUCH
04:17:02  <Stablean> <Sylf> meh, shit happens
04:18:32  <Stablean> <Anson> that was s funny about the old original game ... as some kind of copy protection, they required you to push some key to get rid of crashed trains
04:18:53  <Stablean> <Anson> in the manual, they had a big hint to use CTRL-whatever to clean up the mess
04:19:20  <Stablean> <Anson> but who had illegal copies (without the manual) didn't know what to do :-)
04:22:42  <Stablean> <Anson> how does that station entrance work ? ... i would think that trains just stop at the signal when no platform is available ... why should they go to the depot ?
04:22:53  <Stablean> <Sylf> where?
04:23:15  <Stablean> <Anson> with entry/exit, i do similar (too bad that it is not fail-safe), but with PBS ?
04:23:32  <Stablean> <Anson> where you just had the crash and worked on the station entry
04:24:31  <Stablean> <Sylf> It's a rather basic set up
04:25:01  <Stablean> <Sylf> You know how PBS works, right?
04:25:15  <Stablean> <Sylf> and how you can build that type of set up with just 1 PBS
04:25:23  <Stablean> <Sylf> like that
04:25:36  <Stablean> <Anson> i saw you do it :-)
04:25:50  <Stablean> <Sylf> it works because it's using PBS
04:26:09  <Stablean> <Anson> look at my stations where i do similar with entry/exit (hehe, someone finally convinced me to not use too much pbs :-)
04:26:39  <Stablean> <Sylf> yeah, it's a lazy entrance
04:26:45  <Stablean> <Sylf> lazy with pbs
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04:27:24  <Stablean> <Sylf> I can create more braking tiles with less space that way
04:28:55  <Stablean> <Anson> look at my station please, label "!with pbs"
04:30:32  <Stablean> <Anson> it works as i expected but not like you do it :-( ... train waits at PBS until a path into the station is free
04:31:03  <Stablean> <Sylf> I don't see it
04:31:09  <Stablean> <Sylf> oh there
04:31:19  <Stablean> <Sylf> but it's working exactly as it should
04:31:45  <Stablean> <Anson> the third train waits at the pbs ... it doesn't enter the depot
04:31:51  <Stablean> <Sylf> it won't
04:32:01  <Stablean> <Anson> and what about yours ?
04:32:03  <Stablean> <Sylf> because it's instructed to go to the station, not the depot
04:32:09  <Stablean> <Sylf> mine won't either
04:32:27  <Stablean> <Sylf> Some of mine even have the entrance rail removed
04:32:33  <Stablean> <Anson> oh, then it is simply a pbs entry, with the depot just for fun ?
04:32:43  <Stablean> <Sylf> I'm not using those those depots as overflow
04:32:54  <Stablean> <Sylf> I used them only to deploy trains
04:33:08  <Stablean> <Sylf> some trains entered the depots because I specifically ordered them
04:33:53  <Stablean> <Anson> LOL
04:36:30  <Stablean> <Epic_Fail> Hey all - this is a coop server right? I've never played coop - where do I start? Money makers?
04:37:14  <Stablean> <Sylf> no, this is just a regular competition server, sponsored by coop team/members
04:37:38  <Stablean> <Sylf> so play as you like :)
04:37:40  <Stablean> <Epic_Fail> ah - thanks
04:37:44  <Stablean> <Epic_Fail> will do
04:38:29  <Stablean> <Anson> i have seen all playstyles here, from big coop networks, to people who flatten everything (and get banned for it :-)
04:39:04  <Stablean> <Epic_Fail> lol - right. How do you get into a coop server?
04:39:34  <Stablean> <Sylf> join #openttdcoop channel on OFTC irc network
04:39:48  <Stablean> <Sylf> then read @quickstart in that channel
04:40:06  <Stablean> <Sylf> which isn't all that quick :p
04:40:13  <Stablean> <Epic_Fail> lol thanks
04:40:27  <Stablean> <Sylf> but quicker than reading the entire coop web site - guaranteed
04:41:32  <Stablean> <Epic_Fail> I read a bit - prios and hubs are confusing etc are confusing. Need to get better at them
04:42:02  <Stablean> *** Cosate joined the game
04:42:04  <Stablean> <Sylf> you build a few prio, and that one is easy at basic level
04:42:11  <Stablean> <Sylf> hubs... that's just matter of practice
04:42:23  <Stablean> <Sylf> as long as you don't copy same thing every time :)
04:44:03  <Stablean> <Anson> i always have problems switching between start and network ... i want to do something nice, but don't have the money yet, and when i have the money, i am busy with fixing flaws, jams, and adding more industries, but the network itself isn't anywhere near what i saw on the wiki and blogs
04:46:29  <Stablean> <Sylf> as long as you have played the game some, you should join the actual coop game, and start practicing there
04:46:49  <Stablean> <Sylf> you get to see how different make improvements upon improvements
04:47:08  <Stablean> <Sylf> or what kind of different, some unique, network plans get submitted
04:47:11  <Stablean> <Anson> be given small tasks, and mostly watching what other people do ?
04:47:21  <Stablean> <Epic_Fail> yeah - I really should have a go. Sounds like a great way to learn
04:47:33  <Stablean> <Sylf> then, build some of your own, then open yourself up to some constructive criticisms
05:01:59  <Stablean> <Epic_Fail> whoa! bridge prices are nuts! :D
05:02:11  <Stablean> <Sylf> that's actually not the bridge itself
05:02:19  <Stablean> <Sylf> it's the cost of teraforming water tile
05:02:34  <Stablean> <Epic_Fail> ah I see
05:02:53  <Stablean> <Sylf> which is I think 64x normal price?
05:05:22  <Stablean> <Sylf> Enough playing for me for tonight :)  G'night all
05:05:24  <Stablean> *** Sylf has left the game (leaving)
05:25:59  <Stablean> <Anson> fail : also watch out for prices of ships and aircraft :-)
05:26:35  <Stablean> <Epic_Fail> right - well I love me trains anyway... perhaps some busses to transfer passengers
05:27:37  <Stablean> <Anson> late in the game, you might afford to have one or two small planes ... running cost around 5m to 40m :-)
05:27:52  <Stablean> <Epic_Fail> whoa! nice :D
05:27:56  <Stablean> <Anson> ships are around 100m to 400m
05:28:41  <Stablean> <Anson> last map, the parameters were not properly set, and some people started terraforming immediately, flattening the whole world, and building 30 ships to steal cargo
05:39:45  <Stablean> <Anson> epic, watch out for unused trains etc
05:40:09  <Stablean> <Anson> nice income, but high running costs too, and property maintenance
05:40:24  <Stablean> <Epic_Fail> yeah - I think Imight have over capilised a little
05:40:47  <Stablean> <Epic_Fail> new GRF caught me out.... I've just got to hang on and get this new diamond run up
05:42:48  <Stablean> <Anson> on another map, i did valuables, and every few years, the town rebuilt something, thus also destroying the bank and building a new one, sometimes out of reach of my station :-(
05:43:06  <Stablean> <Anson> thus watch out when you rely entirely onm valuables/gold/diamonds
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05:45:04  <Stablean> <Epic_Fail> doh :D
05:45:14  <Stablean> <Anson> hehe, an epic fail :-)
05:45:28  <Stablean> <Anson> maybe you should select a more positive name ? .-)
05:45:34  <Stablean> <Cosate> yea
05:45:34  <Stablean> <Cosate> lol
05:45:46  <Stablean> <Epic_Fail> perhaps :D You in trouble there too?
05:46:00  <Stablean> <Cosate> me? almost quite there
05:46:02  <Stablean> <Cosate> LOL
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05:47:06  <Stablean> <Anson> i always try to repay as much loan as i can ... and then built something new, locos, etc, and not sent them yet to earn money
05:50:07  <Stablean> <Anson> LOL ... had removed an order from an unused train, and thus it now was waiting in my main drop, blocking 2 of 3 platforms
05:50:21  <Stablean> <Anson> no wonder that something was a bit jammy :-)
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07:48:39  <Stablean> <Epic_Fail> how do I deliver goods in this game? I still only play old school on my own
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08:08:01  <Stablean> <haxx> red you got a train deadlocked in slaninghall
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10:30:19  <Stablean> <insulfrog> hi all...new game i see
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10:52:33  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> HI
10:52:41  <Stablean> <TWerkhoven> ello
10:52:59  <Stablean> <doonz> howdy
10:55:33  <Stablean> <doonz> hey epicfail are you there?
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10:58:24  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Hey CB
10:58:30  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> hi
10:58:33  <TWerkhoven> eya
10:58:35  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> this game has basecost
10:58:45  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Dont they all?
10:58:51  <Stablean> <TWerkhoven> last game didnt
10:58:51  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> not that last one
10:58:58  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :O
10:59:05  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> has so much TF I almost went blind
10:59:20  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> I noticed some of that yesterday didnt realise not bas costs
10:59:23  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> and game befor that everyone was using 2cc MU wagons with  TTD+ trains
10:59:33  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Yeah saw that too :P
10:59:35  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> so 2 very ugly games
10:59:42  <Stablean> <TWerkhoven> wasnt that the same game?
10:59:49  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Nope
10:59:49  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> no
10:59:56  <Stablean> <insulfrog> i also noticed that the openttdcoop newgrf isn't loaded in too
11:00:00  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> People were using maglevs wuth 2cc wagons :/
11:00:26  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> the openttdcoop grf is just a plaeholder
11:02:13  <Stablean> *** Chris Booth has started a new company (#5)
11:02:25  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Might do an RV company :D
11:02:54  <Stablean> <TWerkhoven> like celeste transport?
11:03:10  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :o Didnt notice that company
11:03:49  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Maybe not then :) Probably a low RV limit anyway
11:04:36  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> MrD2DG: you can join me
11:04:46  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I am going to fill my island with those towns
11:04:50  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Where are you?
11:04:56  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> Gredborough Bay
11:05:00  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Oh :P
11:05:14  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Ok you doing PAX only?
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11:05:20  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> yes
11:11:02  <Stablean> <insulfrog> I'll just be spectating on this game
11:11:24  <Stablean> <insulfrog> I'm not setting up my own company this time
11:11:52  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Theres stll some space left :P
11:12:11  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> yes for noe there is insulfrog
11:12:15  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> but not for long
11:12:17  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Just that a few companies decided to be greedy and spread out
11:12:19  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Lol
11:12:29  <Stablean> <insulfrog> got stuff to do this weekend anyway
11:12:35  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> hhhm we are very poor
11:12:38  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Just noticed :/
11:13:08  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> maybe reduce trains and run longer routes?
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11:13:18  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> That or set up a diamond train?
11:13:32  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Tefingford-Druninhall?
11:13:34  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> thanks TWerkhoven
11:13:34  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :P
11:13:40  <Stablean> <TWerkhoven> :/
11:13:44  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> we have £0 left
11:13:52  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Hmmm
11:14:02  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> anyone want to loan me some money?
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11:14:50  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Train income is disgusting £70 :/
11:15:50  <Stablean> <insulfrog> lol...your company is going bankrupt Chris :p
11:16:01  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> yes it is
11:16:19  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I need a bailout
11:16:33  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> but no one will give me one :'(
11:16:35  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Dont think thats happening :P
11:16:53  <Stablean> <insulfrog> um...i would help you but...I don't have a company set up
11:16:55  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I always give bailouts
11:16:58  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Me too
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11:17:39  <Stablean> <insulfrog> how did you manage to lose so much money in the first place?
11:17:48  <TWerkhoven> he went to the pub ;)
11:17:49  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> expensive trains
11:17:55  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> no pax
11:18:05  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> and about everyone a round in the pub
11:18:12  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> and my massive cheese cake
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11:18:56  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> meh next time I will do better
11:19:16  <TWerkhoven> mmm, cheesecake
11:19:31  <Stablean> <insulfrog> don't start on pax until you do some freight
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11:26:34  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :O
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12:53:36  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> lets hope I don't go bankrupt twice
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13:39:14  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> hi Phil
13:39:24  <Stablean> <Phil> hello all :)
13:41:07  <Stablean> <Phil> not much spare land
13:41:17  <Stablean> <Phil> maybe i'll sit this one out
13:41:24  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> yes and hard to make a profit
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13:41:46  <Stablean> <Phil> wow yeah
13:41:52  <Stablean> <Phil> running costs are high
13:42:01  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> yes and wagons are heavy
13:42:15  <Stablean> <Phil> :O
13:42:52  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I tryed pax and went bankrupt firt time
13:43:28  <Stablean> <Phil> damn if you can go bakrupt there's no hope for me lol
13:43:42  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> yes there is
13:43:48  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I just went to big to fast
13:44:00  <Stablean> <Phil> ah ok
13:44:14  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I now have a tidy network with small profit
13:44:49  <Stablean> <Phil> yeah i see
13:45:11  <Stablean> <Phil> sod it i'll take the free islan and see how i go
13:45:29  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> yes
13:51:33  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> Phil: you have some useless signals
13:52:27  <Stablean> <Phil> so just normal block signals will do?
13:52:38  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> no signal at all would do
13:53:13  <Stablean> <Phil> like so?
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14:05:19  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> you think you are going to make it Phil?
14:05:44  <Stablean> <Phil> make what?
14:05:51  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> not go bankrupt
14:06:05  <Stablean> <Phil> oh umm
14:06:19  <Stablean> <Phil> nope lol
14:06:51  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> in the not to distant future I can give you a bailout
14:11:10  <Stablean> <doonz> phil and chris, do you want some money? i'm off to bed.
14:11:28  <Stablean> <Phil> sure ill take some
14:11:44  <Stablean> <Phil> cheers
14:11:46  <Stablean> <doonz> np
14:11:48  <Stablean> <doonz> night guys
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14:11:52  <Stablean> <Phil> cya doonz
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14:23:34  <Stablean> <Phil> local authority hates me and i can't build my station grr
14:23:40  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> trees
14:23:47  <Stablean> <Phil> yeah i've tried
14:23:53  <Stablean> <Phil> but it didn't work :(
14:23:55  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> delete them and rebuild them
14:24:13  <Stablean> <Phil> i tried that also maybe im doing something wrong?
14:24:38  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> now built them at Gronnwell
14:25:18  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> you need to cover all that area
14:25:38  <Stablean> <Phil> nice one
14:25:40  <Stablean> <Phil> thx
14:25:43  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> see now mediocre
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14:25:50  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> you can do it yourself
14:26:03  <Stablean> <Phil> yeah cheers
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14:52:50  <Stablean> <Timmaexx> damned
14:53:05  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> oops
14:53:21  <Stablean> <Phil> ?
14:53:35  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> Timmaexx: went bankrupt
14:53:45  <Stablean> <Phil> oh :(
14:53:47  <Stablean> <Timmaexx> i was afk for 20 minutes came back two minutes ago and the catastrophe wasn't
14:54:09  <Stablean> <Timmaexx> unavoidable
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15:00:33  <Stablean> <Timmaexx> @Chris: Is TL2 the new trend?
15:01:53  <Stablean> *** Timmaexx has started a new company (#8)
15:10:49  <Stablean> <Phil> trees didn't work and i've just wasted 40k trying :(
15:10:59  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> trees do work
15:11:05  <Stablean> <Timmaexx> 40k... which currency?
15:11:12  <Stablean> <Phil> 40k pounds
15:11:22  <Stablean> <Timmaexx> ok
15:11:32  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> tree still work
15:11:34  <Stablean> <Phil> i couldn't make them work at grondingville
15:11:40  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> you just need to deletee 20x20
15:11:43  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> and replant 20x20
15:12:27  <Stablean> <Phil> maybe that's why then as quite a bit of it is surrounded by water so not enough room to plant enough trees
15:12:43  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> yes there will be
15:12:47  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> where are you?
15:13:06  <Stablean> <Phil> check here sign
15:13:22  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> let me join you
15:13:24  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> and show you how
15:13:32  <Stablean> <Phil> u know the pw or should :P
15:13:52  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> how should i?
15:13:58  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> not a clue
15:14:09  <Stablean> <Phil> oh maybe it was troy who once joined and not u
15:14:21  <Stablean> <Phil> password is  poop
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15:16:02  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> and bing
15:16:04  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> o
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15:16:09  <Stablean> <Phil> nice :)
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15:16:11  <Stablean> <Phil> thx
15:16:17  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> no probs
15:16:51  <Stablean> <Phil> just spent some cash building to a food place only for it to vanish before a train gets there
15:17:01  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> lol
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15:31:05  <Stablean> <Phil> ah this like pissing in the wind
15:31:47  <Stablean> <Phil> i've made 20k this year including +5k  demolision
15:31:53  <Stablean> <Phil> woohoo
15:31:55  <Stablean> <Phil> 25 now
15:32:29  <Stablean> <Phil> at this rate every 2 years i can buy a new train lol
15:45:30  <Stablean> <Phil> i give up
15:45:41  <Stablean> <Phil> whoever set these settings is a sadist
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15:45:55  <Stablean> <Phil> i'll be back when the server resets
15:45:58  <Stablean> <Phil> cya
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15:46:04  <Stablean> <TWerkhoven> cya
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15:57:02  <Stablean> <Timmaexx> Survive just with trucks is impossible
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16:24:21  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> oh shit
16:24:28  <Stablean> <Timmaexx> ne
16:24:34  <Stablean> <Timmaexx> you bought it?
16:24:36  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> oh yes
16:24:42  <Stablean> <Timmaexx> oh shit
16:24:46  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> lol
16:24:52  <Stablean> <Timmaexx> sorry
16:24:58  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> lol not your fault
16:25:41  <Stablean> <Timmaexx> send it to depot and sell it
16:25:48  <Stablean> <Timmaexx> maybe you can be rescued+
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16:35:08  <Stablean> <Timmaexx> i feel guilty :(
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16:37:30  <Stablean> <Timmaexx> Chris: Shall we restart?
16:40:30  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> no I wasn't realy playing
16:40:36  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I am playing La Noire now
16:40:42  <Stablean> <Timmaexx> okay
16:40:44  <Stablean> <Timmaexx> cool :)
16:41:15  <Stablean> <Timmaexx> bye guys, I'll come back if server has restated
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23:47:50  <Stablean> <Anson> oh, hallo, Sylf
23:48:10  <Stablean> <Anson> i was a lot AFK myself, but whenever i looked at the screen, nobody was there
23:49:24  <Stablean> <Anson> is it because of the weekend, or don't the few people who came like the map ?
23:51:33  <Stablean> <Anson> i don't know whether i like this map ... had not enough time to look at it since i was too busy watching the finance window for running costs ...
23:54:39  <Stablean> <Anson> as you yourself have shown, it is easy to get a lot of money fast, by setting up a long distance transport, but most people seem to prefer smaller networks, and in case of multiple islands and many players, there is not much room for such long distance moneymakers and long distance networks
23:55:21  <Stablean> <Anson> at least those are my thoughts ... and you had asked about it whortly after the map started :-)

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