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Log for #openttdcoop.stable on 6th October 2013:
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00:05:47  <Stablean> *** Sturmi has left the game (leaving)
00:11:57  * V453000 rejects the offer
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02:44:45  <Sylf>   mooo
02:45:04  <Sylf> do we have 0.6.0?
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03:47:30  <Stablean> <Sylf> oh, we have a WTF teraforming
03:47:49  <Stablean> <Djanxy> aye, just saw that
03:47:52  <Stablean> <Djanxy> what's that about
03:48:22  <Stablean> <Big Meech> yoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoooooooooooo!
03:51:50  <Stablean> <Big Meech> I like the dux.
03:52:04  <Stablean> <Sylf> ready to see the slugz?
03:52:20  <Stablean> <Big Meech> I iz.
03:53:42  <Stablean> <Big Meech> lol
03:53:52  <Stablean> <Big Meech> the eyes / antenna look so space age
03:54:47  <Stablean> <Sylf> :o
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03:54:53  <Stablean> <Sylf> they can't climb the hills
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03:55:10  <BiG_MeEcH> no?
03:55:25  <Stablean> <Sylf> they slow down on the hills
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03:55:57  <BiG_MeEcH> maybe its a bug
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03:56:22  <Stablean> <Sylf> they're just chickens, not slugs
03:56:28  <Stablean> <Sylf> too weak.  sissy.
03:56:34  <Stablean> <Big Meech> lol
03:56:52  <Stablean> <Big Meech> which hill are you looking at?
03:56:58  <Stablean> <Big Meech> i didnt see it slow down on a 1 tile incline
03:57:24  <Stablean> <Big Meech> oh i see
03:57:30  <Stablean> <Big Meech> thats kinda sad
03:57:40  <Stablean> <Big Meech> maybe they are neutered slugz
03:57:42  <Stablean> <Sylf> I see it more when they hit the hill while accelerating
03:57:44  <Stablean> <Big Meech> and v needs to add their balls back
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03:59:31  <Stablean> <Sylf> ll_rr complete now
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03:59:51  <Stablean> <Sylf> possibly for the first time ever in my game on this server
04:00:00  <BiG_MeEcH> lol
04:00:08  <BiG_MeEcH> i saw you added the rest last ngiht that I started
04:00:23  <Stablean> <Sylf> I added more tonight
04:00:41  <Stablean> <Sylf> including the food and oil drops
04:01:30  <BiG_MeEcH> excellent!
04:07:55  <BiG_MeEcH> Shame that those slugs are no good
04:08:00  <Stablean> *** Sylf has left the game (leaving)
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04:08:01  <BiG_MeEcH> can they be double headed or no?
04:08:11  <Sylf> no
04:08:34  <BiG_MeEcH> maybe we need to propose to V some double headed action
04:08:46  <BiG_MeEcH> the kind that money cant buy at the strip club
04:09:00  <Sylf> no
04:09:06  <BiG_MeEcH> lol :D
04:09:09  <Sylf> they just need to be less wussy
04:09:28  <BiG_MeEcH> maybe more TE then
04:09:33  <Sylf> no
04:09:37  <Sylf> they have very high TE
04:09:39  <Sylf> 1000
04:09:45  <BiG_MeEcH> so more HP then?
04:10:00  <Sylf> yes, that's the only thing that's out of balance
04:10:07  <Sylf> but that still may be by design
04:10:42  <BiG_MeEcH> well what would be the point of that, that the final engine kinda sucks... would have to haul less wagons?
04:12:40  <BiG_MeEcH> what is the wagon capacity for just the engine and the 1 wagon that trails behind it?
04:12:58  <BiG_MeEcH> 50?
04:14:19  <Sylf> those trains come with 1 wagon already
04:14:24  <BiG_MeEcH> yeah
04:14:28  <Sylf> add 1 more wagon, and the capacity is 80
04:14:35  <BiG_MeEcH> okay so its 40
04:14:46  <BiG_MeEcH> isnt that the # for gung ho for FIRS?
04:14:52  <BiG_MeEcH> 40 crates?
04:16:14  <Sylf> !rcon ban 80.62.117.81
04:16:14  <Stablean> Sylf: Client not online, address added to banlist
04:16:26  <BiG_MeEcH> D:
04:17:11  <BiG_MeEcH> didn't know I was that much of a troublemaker :D xD
04:17:15  <BiG_MeEcH> !join Nuts
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05:12:55  <BiG_MeEcH> whoa, who did the carving?
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07:54:51  <Stablean> <Taede> looks like the panama canal construction ran afoul
07:56:22  <Stablean> <V453000> :)
07:56:32  <Stablean> <V453000> oh that
07:56:34  <Stablean> <V453000> myeah
07:56:40  <Stablean> <V453000> I think Sylf already banned them
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08:59:55  <Stablean> *** V453000 has started a new company (#8)
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09:00:06  <Stablean> <AndreasBe> hallo
09:00:16  <Stablean> <V453000> hy
09:00:39  <Stablean> <AndreasBe> today, i am using my realname .-)
09:00:53  <Stablean> <V453000> not much difference XD
09:01:20  <Stablean> <AndreasBe> lots of difference ... everything besies the first two letters
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09:30:01  <Stablean> *** V453000 has started a new company (#9)
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09:35:11  <Stablean> <V453000> hy
09:35:17  <Stablean> <Jam35> lo
09:36:23  <Stablean> <AndreasBe> hallo
09:37:06  <Stablean> <Jam35> so someone in kor transport decided to lower large areas of land into the sea
09:37:16  <Stablean> <V453000> mhm
09:37:26  <Stablean> <V453000> I think Sylf already assigned some banz
09:38:33  <Stablean> <Jam35> I kind of ' dammed' what they were doing then they left
09:39:55  <Stablean> <AndreasBe> such a big diagonal cut through the whole map ... must have been pretty rich ...
09:40:25  <Stablean> <Jam35> well they just used all of kor company's money then changed company
09:40:36  <Stablean> <Jam35> not even sure they were a friend of kor
09:40:49  <Stablean> <Jam35> but it is passworded
09:41:51  <Stablean> *** AndreasBe has started a new company (#8)
09:42:23  <Stablean> <V453000> that it is passworded now doesnt mean it was before
09:42:50  <Stablean> <V453000> assholes who invade companies often set a password first of all
09:43:04  <Stablean> <Jam35> could be that
09:44:03  <Stablean> <V453000> btw whenever you feel like, you could make a new map Jam35 :P
09:44:05  <Stablean> <V453000> I am coding tranez
09:44:32  <Stablean> <Jam35> oky
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09:46:48  <V453000> Jam35: if nuts, dont forget there is new one :P
09:50:05  <V453000> aaand dont set track costs in basecosts to free(no costs) :P rest, as usual :)
09:53:41  <Jam35> ok, what grf has the nice garden stations?
09:53:45  <Jam35> :)
09:54:41  <V453000> vast?
09:55:52  <Jam35> yes could be
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10:08:48  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> hi all
10:11:11  <Stablean> *** happy tran {} sport has joined company #2
10:11:59  <Stablean> *** V453000 has started a new company (#4)
10:12:11  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> hi v
10:12:15  <Stablean> <V453000> hy
10:13:21  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> how   things
10:13:27  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> v
10:13:55  <Stablean> <AndreasBe> why do factories always disappear just when i am done building a route with some stations and JUST buy the first train ?
10:15:22  <Stablean> <AndreasBe> did you just (re-)buy me the factory ?
10:15:29  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> yes
10:15:36  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> to  help  u
10:15:42  <Stablean> <AndreasBe> big thanks
10:15:44  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> np
10:16:46  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> u beter  get  the  trans  going
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10:25:04  <Stablean> <AndreasBe> Will the monsters of the deep be able to pull pax in the future ? or is that disallowed since it would be too dangerous (monsters eating their cargo) ? .-)
10:28:42  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> ok  i dun u a new  factory  this won is a bit closer
10:29:18  <Stablean> <AndreasBe> already had put down two additional station tiles ...
10:29:36  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> ar  ok
10:30:18  <Stablean> <AndreasBe> but with the second factory, the station might be easier to expand in the future ... maybe in 200 years :-)#
10:30:28  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> yep
10:30:38  <Stablean> <V453000> they do that in the newer version AndreasBe
10:30:45  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> and  u get   the  goods  farster
10:33:30  <Stablean> <AndreasBe> btw: as i already said earlier, i am using a different nick today, my realname ... only the two first letters match it ... i am not AndreasB
10:34:08  <Stablean> *** happy tran {} sport has joined company #5
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10:37:06  <V453000> then why use "your real name" if you KNOW there is some nickname called similarly?
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10:41:49  <V453000> AndreasBe: ?
10:42:06  <Stablean> <AndreasBe> during the last few days, i read IRC and always was confused when i read that name :-)
10:42:48  <Stablean> <V453000> it would be nice if you could use a different nickname then
10:43:26  <Stablean> <V453000> OR you could go to AndreasB and ask him to change his
10:43:36  <Stablean> <V453000> having 2 almost identical nicknames is really bad
10:44:30  <Stablean> *** AndreasBe has left the game (leaving)
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10:45:57  <Stablean> <V453000> amazing
10:46:13  <Jam35> here is a map: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/51134233/Unnamed%2C%201st%20Jan%201920.sav
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10:47:08  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> hi jam
10:47:11  <Stablean> <Jam35> hi
10:47:21  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> how things
10:47:27  <Stablean> <Jam35> good
10:47:38  <Stablean> <Jam35> u?
10:47:44  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> good
10:47:48  <V453000> Jam35: what are ogfx+ industries without parameters meant to do ? :)
10:47:50  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> thanks
10:48:03  <V453000> ps, JapanSet landscape is much better - working roads and sane farms :)
10:48:33  <V453000> BK tunnels with landscape newGRFs = no
10:49:17  <V453000> total bridges have version 1.2, but I dont think either of the versions will show roads nicely
10:49:21  <V453000> so, no bridges would be best
10:49:52  <V453000> rest should work alright
10:50:21  <V453000> max 300 trains per company is lol
10:57:34  <Stablean> *** Jam35 has left the game (leaving)
11:11:17  <Jam35> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/51134233/Unnamed%2C%201st%20Jan%201920.sav
11:11:24  <Jam35> try this
11:12:48  <Jam35> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/51134233/Unnamed%2C%2010th%20Jan%201920.sav
11:13:16  <Jam35> with the train number fixed
11:14:00  <V453000> did you just remove all of the japapnes newgrfs? :D
11:14:02  <V453000> whhy :D
11:14:33  <V453000> PS ... please add a welcome board, and save games always at 1x zoom
11:14:38  <V453000> and done
11:14:51  <Jam35> I did originally
11:14:53  <Jam35> omg
11:15:40  <V453000> yez :)
11:23:16  <Jam35> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/51134233/Unnamed%2C%201st%20Jan%201920.sav
11:23:24  <Jam35> please...
11:26:19  <V453000> lol you copied the japanese things back again
11:26:30  <V453000> just changed the landscape, but yeah
11:26:40  <V453000> !getsave https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/20419525/StableNUTS86.sav
11:26:42  <Stablean> V453000: OK :-)
11:26:47  <V453000> !rcon pwd
11:26:47  <Stablean> V453000: /home/ottdc/svn-stable/autopilot/save/uploads/
11:26:49  <V453000> !rcon load 2
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11:27:08  <V453000> !content
11:27:08  <Stablean> V453000: [Content] Connection established
11:27:08  <Stablean> V453000: [Content] Downloading 0 file(s) (0 bytes)
11:27:08  <Stablean> V453000: [Content] Nothing to download
11:27:10  <V453000> !content
11:27:12  <Stablean> V453000: [Content Update] Expect timeout triggered!
11:27:12  <Stablean> V453000: [Content] Downloading 0 file(s) (0 bytes)
11:27:13  <Stablean> V453000: [Content] Nothing to download
11:27:14  <V453000> !content
11:27:16  <Stablean> V453000: [Content Update] Expect timeout triggered!
11:27:16  <Stablean> V453000: [Content] Downloading 5 file(s) (2930500 bytes)
11:27:16  <Stablean> V453000: [Content] Completed download of 2897
11:27:17  <Stablean> V453000: [Content] Completed download of 2891
11:27:17  <Stablean> V453000: [Content] Completed download of 2892
11:27:18  <Stablean> V453000: [Content] Completed download of 2889
11:27:20  <Stablean> V453000: [Content] Completed download of 2895
11:27:20  <Stablean> V453000: [Content] All 5 downloaded
11:27:20  <Stablean> V453000: [Content] (you need to rescan(ai|game|newgrf) to have the new content loaded)
11:27:22  <Stablean> *** Game still paused (number of players)
11:27:22  <V453000> !content
11:27:24  <Stablean> V453000: [Content Update] Expect timeout triggered!
11:27:24  <Stablean> V453000: [Content] Downloading 0 file(s) (0 bytes)
11:27:24  <Stablean> V453000: [Content] Nothing to download
11:27:30  <V453000> !content
11:27:32  <Stablean> V453000: [Content Update] Expect timeout triggered!
11:27:32  <Stablean> V453000: [Content] Downloading 0 file(s) (0 bytes)
11:27:32  <Stablean> V453000: [Content] Nothing to download
11:27:34  <Stablean> *** Jam35 has left the game (leaving)
11:27:40  <Stablean> <An(son)dreas Be> oh, we have one island :-)
11:27:51  <Jam35> that's not it :)
11:27:54  <V453000> !restart
11:27:54  <Stablean> Restart scheduled, will be initiated in next minute!
11:28:01  <Stablean> Scheduled quit for automated maintenance... will be back shortely
11:28:01  <Stablean> Thank you for playing 1.3.2.
11:28:05  <Stablean> Server has exited
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11:32:11  <V453000> that isnt shortely
11:35:48  <Anson> aldo strange: on the restart i was kicked, not just disconnected
11:36:16  <Jam35> *shortly
11:37:37  <Anson> hehe, the derver said dhortely... maybe it doesn't know when shortely id :-)
11:38:03  <Jam35> what? :)
11:38:27  <Anson> ((big fat fingers on a dmall touchscreen))
11:38:31  <Jam35> have you got a cold?
11:39:22  <Jam35> stablean has gone awol
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11:47:30  <BiG_MeEcH> woooooooooooooooOOO!
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11:53:01  <BiG_MeEcH> woooooooooooooooOOO!
13:50:08  <Sylf> hmmm
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13:58:30  <Stablean> Autopilot engaged
13:58:30  <Stablean> Loading savegame: '{#openttdcoop} Welcome Server (www.openttdcoop.org)'
13:58:30  *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Stablean
13:58:30  *** Webster changes topic to "#openttdcoop Welcome to OpenTTD Server | 1.3.2 | Admin channel (ask for op) | IF you prepare map, read http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Map_Preparation | run !setdef after loading a new game | http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/servers-stable"
13:58:43  <Sylf> !date
14:00:57  <Sylf> !date
14:02:11  <Sylf> !restart
14:02:11  <Stablean> Restart scheduled, will be initiated in next minute!
14:03:01  <Stablean> Scheduled quit for automated maintenance... will be back shortely
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14:11:39  <Stablean> Autopilot engaged
14:11:39  <Stablean> Loading savegame: '{#openttdcoop} Welcome Server (www.openttdcoop.org)'
14:11:39  *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Stablean
14:11:39  *** Webster changes topic to "#openttdcoop Welcome to OpenTTD Server | 1.3.2 | Admin channel (ask for op) | IF you prepare map, read http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Map_Preparation | run !setdef after loading a new game | http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/servers-stable"
14:11:44  <Stablean> V450000000000, now you can execute !-commands ;-)
14:11:50  <Sylf> !date
14:11:50  <Stablean> Sylf:  2 Jan 1920
14:12:10  <Stablean> *** Game still paused (manual, number of players)
14:12:12  <Stablean> *** Sylf joined the game
14:12:16  <Sylf> Success!
14:12:23  <Sylf> !setdef
14:12:23  <Stablean> *** Sylf has disabled wait_for_pbs_path, wait_twoway_signal, wait_oneway_signal, ai_in_multiplayer; enabled no_servicing_if_no_breakdowns, extra_dynamite, mod_road_rebuild, forbid_90_deg, rail_firstred_twoway_eol and set path_backoff_interval to 1, train_acceleration_model to 1
14:12:26  <Sylf> !auto
14:12:26  <Stablean> *** Sylf has enabled autopause mode.
14:12:27  <Stablean> *** Game still paused (number of players)
14:12:33  <Sylf> !rcon reset_company 1
14:12:33  <Stablean> Sylf: Company deleted.
14:17:50  <Stablean> *** Game still paused (number of players)
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14:21:09  <Sylf> Jam35/V, this is the map you wanted to load, right?
14:21:17  <Stablean> <Jam35> yep
14:21:21  <Stablean> <Jam35> & hi
14:21:22  <Sylf> kk
14:21:29  <Stablean> <Jam35> oh Sylf
14:21:35  <Stablean> <Jam35> while you are there
14:21:50  <Stablean> <Jam35> did I hear you say once you had a cheat sheet for this stuff?
14:22:05  <Stablean> <Jam35> and maybe could I borrow please?
14:22:26  <V453000> hy :)
14:23:36  <Sylf> yeah, it's on my basement PC...
14:23:55  <Stablean> <Jam35> oh ok :)
14:23:58  <Sylf> For loading the .sav file to the server, you have 2 options
14:24:19  <Sylf> you can use the !getsave command where you can download a file from web
14:24:44  <Sylf> or you can get an ssh access from planetmaker or someone, and sftp the file to the server
14:25:13  <Sylf> so
14:25:27  <Sylf> step 1) !getsave http://someserver/somefile.sav
14:25:40  <Sylf> step 2) !rcon pwd
14:26:25  <Sylf> If the current working directory is not save/uploads, then !rcon cd 3
14:26:37  <Sylf> step 3) !rcon load 2
14:26:59  <V453000> well it can be e.g. autosave
14:27:02  <V453000> !rcon cd
14:27:02  <Stablean> V453000: - Change the dir via console. Usage: 'cd <directory | number>'
14:27:06  <Sylf> that "2" should be the newest file that you just loaded.  If not sure, you can !rcon ls to find the exact file you want to load
14:27:07  <V453000> !rcon ls
14:27:07  <Stablean> V453000: 0) .. (Parent directory)
14:27:07  <Stablean> V453000: 1) archive/ (Directory)
14:27:07  <Stablean> V453000: 2) autosave/ (Directory)
14:27:07  <Stablean> V453000: 3) uploads/ (Directory)
14:27:07  <Stablean> V453000: 4) restart.sav
14:27:08  <Stablean> V453000: you have 37 more messages
14:27:12  <V453000> !rcon cd 2
14:27:13  <V453000> like that
14:27:16  <V453000> !rcon pwd
14:27:16  <Stablean> V453000: /home/ottdc/svn-stable/autopilot/save/autosave/
14:27:19  <V453000> !rcon cd ::
14:27:19  <Stablean> V453000: ::: No such file or directory.
14:27:23  <V453000> !rcon cd ..
14:27:25  <V453000> !rcon ls
14:27:25  <Stablean> V453000: 0) .. (Parent directory)
14:27:25  <Stablean> V453000: 1) archive/ (Directory)
14:27:25  <Stablean> V453000: 2) autosave/ (Directory)
14:27:25  <Stablean> V453000: 3) uploads/ (Directory)
14:27:25  <Stablean> V453000: 4) restart.sav
14:27:26  <Stablean> V453000: you have 37 more messages
14:27:28  <V453000> !rcon cd 3
14:27:32  <V453000> !rcon pwd
14:27:32  <Stablean> V453000: /home/ottdc/svn-stable/autopilot/save/uploads/
14:27:37  <V453000> that should show it :)
14:27:45  <Sylf> step 4) !setdef
14:27:53  <Sylf> step 5) !auto
14:28:08  <Sylf> step 6) !rcon reset_company 1  (optional)
14:28:46  <Sylf> step 7 ) start harassing the minions
14:29:02  <Jam35> those aliases (pwd & ls) are meaningless to me :)
14:29:25  <V453000> step 8) invite Meech to the game and you are fucked
14:29:32  <Sylf> pwd means print working directory - it's a unix/linux command
14:29:36  <V453000> these are just commands
14:29:41  <V453000> as Sylf sez
14:29:48  <Sylf> ls is the unix/linux version of dir
14:29:55  <Jam35> I realise they are commands ty :)
14:29:57  <V453000> ls = check what is in directory, cd = move to directory
14:30:23  <Jam35> dos I am familiar with no linux
14:30:42  <Jam35> sure that's enough for now
14:30:51  <Sylf> yup, the console commands has some flavor of linux influence
14:32:43  <Jam35> ok thanks
14:47:47  <Stablean> *** Game still paused (number of players)
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14:48:59  <Stablean> *** Game still paused (number of players)
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14:55:45  <Jam35> shite the GRVTS is wrong version
14:55:52  <Jam35> not on bananas
14:56:03  <Sylf> oh?
14:56:20  <Sylf> funny how I can log in, then.
14:56:34  <Sylf> I don't remember downloading any grvts off the forum
14:56:56  <Jam35> it's in the openttdcoop pack
15:17:48  <Stablean> *** Jam35 has left the game (leaving)
15:22:29  <Jam35> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/51134233/Unnamed%2C%201st%20Jan%201920.sav
15:22:35  <Jam35> new version
15:22:43  <Stablean> *** Game still paused (number of players)
15:22:46  <Stablean> *** bon joined the game
15:22:49  <Jam35> I would try to upload except no op
15:22:50  <Stablean> <bon> hi ho? :)
15:22:53  <Sylf> you can try the cheatsheet now
15:22:57  <Sylf> oh
15:23:16  *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Jam35
15:23:27  <Stablean> <bon> ...mm thats a rather interesting map
15:23:35  <Jam35> !getsave https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/51134233/Unnamed%2C%201st%20Jan%201920.sav
15:23:38  <Stablean> Jam35: OK :-)
15:23:44  <Sylf> don't start anything yet, bon
15:23:49  <Jam35> !rcon pwd
15:23:49  <Stablean> Jam35: /home/ottdc/svn-stable/autopilot/save/uploads/
15:24:01  <Stablean> <bon> np...when I noticed it was paused with several players I thought something else was going on
15:24:02  <Jam35> !rcon ls
15:24:02  <Stablean> Jam35: 0) .. (Parent directory)
15:24:02  <Stablean> Jam35: 1) archive/ (Directory)
15:24:02  <Stablean> Jam35: 2) Unnamed, 1st Jan 1920.sav
15:24:02  <Stablean> Jam35: 3) StableNUTS86.sav
15:24:02  <Stablean> Jam35: 4) V453000 Transport, 1984-07-31.sav
15:24:04  <Stablean> Jam35: you have 214 more messages
15:24:14  <Jam35> !rcon load 2
15:24:17  <Stablean> *** Game paused (number of players)
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15:24:25  <Stablean> *** Game still paused (number of players)
15:24:27  <Sylf> oh Jam, give your sav file a unique name
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15:24:54  <Jam35> it does not overwrite?
15:25:07  <Stablean> *** Game still paused (number of players)
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15:25:10  <Sylf> it does
15:25:18  <Stablean> <bon> heh nice rice fields
15:25:36  <Sylf> yeah, neon colored rice fields!
15:25:54  <Stablean> *** Game still paused (number of players)
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15:26:03  <Stablean> <bon> you know...I know it doesn't always fit everyone but once in a while I actually play a temperate map with all japan-only grfs .. aside to adding HEQS (japan rvs don't seem to be around yet anyway)
15:26:21  <Stablean> <bon> kinda makes for fun with pax due to small variations in the emus/etc
15:26:41  <Sylf> I've thought about Japanese rvs...
15:27:15  <Jam35> sorry busy
15:27:19  <Sylf> but if I make it, it'll be so generic that it'll basically be GRVTS with unique names
15:27:24  <Jam35> what is the point of unique name
15:27:42  <Sylf> so we have archive of maps we load
15:27:53  <Stablean> <bon> sylf well there is one different thing 'generic' about some japan straight trucks.. they carry a lot of extra lights and/or artistic bumpers
15:27:55  <Jam35> ok
15:28:01  <Stablean> <bon> kinda different from most other typical trucks
15:28:34  <Jam35> I think you/I missed a step do I restart now?
15:28:42  <Sylf> no restart needed
15:28:55  <Sylf> actually the server hardly ever need to be restarted on welcome server
15:29:10  <Stablean> *** Game still paused (number of players)
15:29:10  <Sylf> you need to restart for each game for PSG though
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15:29:30  <Jam35> oh it already happened :)
15:29:33  <Jam35> k
15:29:55  <Sylf> When I'm thinking in generic terms like Isuzu Elf or Toyota Canter etc....  they just are really plain trucks that can be refitted to most anything
15:30:14  <Stablean> <bon> ah right yeah
15:31:18  <Stablean> *** happy tran {} sport has started a new company (#2)
15:31:20  <Stablean> *** Game unpaused (number of players)
15:31:36  <Stablean> <bon> mm is this time to start playing?
15:31:38  <Stablean> <bon> just wondering
15:31:47  <Sylf> yes, it's ready for playing
15:31:55  <Stablean> <bon> ok np
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15:35:00  <Stablean> *** Jam35 has started a new company (#1)
15:35:10  <Sylf> oh btw....
15:35:12  <Stablean> <bon> heh .. no  paper mill on the very island I wanted to try start on :-s
15:35:12  <Sylf> !setdef
15:35:12  <Stablean> *** Sylf has disabled wait_for_pbs_path, wait_twoway_signal, wait_oneway_signal, ai_in_multiplayer; enabled no_servicing_if_no_breakdowns, extra_dynamite, mod_road_rebuild, forbid_90_deg, rail_firstred_twoway_eol and set path_backoff_interval to 1, train_acceleration_model to 1
15:35:53  <happy> i   need to re start  my company
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15:36:10  <Stablean> <bon> happy...unpassword it and wait a 'few days'
15:36:13  <Stablean> <Sylf> buy a boat?
15:36:40  <Stablean> *** happy tran {} sport has joined company #2
15:37:01  <Stablean> <bon> hmmm...I could maybe just say one small thing about opengfx industries....
15:37:31  <Stablean> <Sylf> what about it?
15:37:38  <Stablean> *** happy tran {} sport has joined spectators
15:37:54  <Stablean> <bon> the rubber and forest almost looked same at first till I noticed the ground tiles...good thing I didn't build a station yet
15:38:38  <Stablean> <bon> happy tran I'm kinda surprised that little amount of tracks costed a lot
15:38:48  <Stablean> <bon> maybe its just purrrail..not sure :-s
15:38:50  <Stablean> *** happy tran {} sport has started a new company (#2)
15:38:56  <Stablean> <Sylf> It must be OpenGFX thing, not really opengfx+ industries
15:40:28  <Stablean> <bon> yeah that seem a lot cheaper now happy tran
15:43:36  <Stablean> *** Player has started a new company (#3)
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15:47:54  <Stablean> <Sylf> Jam, you know that you don't have FPP on that island?
15:47:58  <Stablean> <Jam35> :D
15:48:05  <Stablean> <Jam35> just noticed
15:48:13  <Stablean> <Sylf> hehehe
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15:50:19  <Stablean> <Jam35> nice
15:52:09  <Stablean> <bon> btw I know a bit about loading speed now but what does "2 (x2)" mean anyway?
15:52:23  <Stablean> <Jam35> the wagons are articulated
15:52:37  <Stablean> <bon> ohh..so per part...I see
15:53:19  <Stablean> *** Sylf has started a new company (#1)
15:55:26  <Stablean> <bon> ughhh...heh happy trans I didn't think you were going that far south so quickly :_s
15:56:01  <Stablean> <bon> its ok..its just fun after all as long as we don't mind bridge others
15:56:03  <Stablean> <bon> :)
15:56:41  <Stablean> <Sylf> it wouldn't have been a problem if you selected another island for your company, bon
15:56:41  <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (general timeout)
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15:57:06  <Stablean> *** Jam35 has started a new company (#5)
15:59:34  <Stablean> <bon> well the island with Fonham had little to do and player ha taken Plindworth so I thought I would just look at farms+factory corner of this particular island after all
15:59:49  <Stablean> <bon> but mm its ok..its just for fun here
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16:01:35  <Stablean> <Sylf> oh
16:01:49  <Stablean> <Sylf> drive on left option is on...
16:02:45  <Stablean> <Jam35> is it that improtant?
16:02:51  <Stablean> <Jam35> *important
16:02:57  <Stablean> <bon> doubt it..we're not playing country-specific grf are we? :)
16:03:12  <Stablean> <Sylf> the side of the signal is on the other side from usual
16:07:26  <Stablean> <bon> brb
16:11:10  <Stablean> <bon> happy tran can I ask you about a particular spot to change to bridges in a moment?
16:11:24  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> yep
16:11:58  <Stablean> <bon> ok I'll ell you when :)
16:14:16  <Stablean> <bon> there at sign
16:14:22  <Stablean> <bon> if you're not sure I could try revise something
16:15:16  <Stablean> <bon> np...and thanks
16:15:20  <Stablean> <bon> have fun with your heavy ores :)
16:15:27  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> np
16:15:58  <Stablean> <bon> happy tran you can go to the one near Wanley too... I'm not interested in that particular area at all anyway
16:16:18  <Stablean> <bon> :)
16:16:29  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> doo a sign
16:16:40  <Stablean> <bon> oh...I meant two...anyway sure I'll sign..
16:16:59  <Stablean> <bon> there
16:17:06  <Stablean> <bon> ;)
16:17:25  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> ok  i see them
16:21:12  <Stablean> <bon> anyway need to start lunch so be back afterward :-s
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16:35:40  <Stablean> <Sylf> awww
16:35:46  <Stablean> <Sylf> we confused the poor "player"
16:38:12  <Stablean> <bon> heh? :)
16:38:26  <Stablean> *** bon has joined company #3
16:38:58  <Stablean> <Sylf> from what he's built, I think he got confused with these industries
16:41:18  <Stablean> <bon> heh I didn't noticed that... food shops in town...hmm
16:41:37  <Stablean> <Sylf> that's opengfx+ industries feature
16:41:50  <Stablean> <Sylf> since standard temperate map towns don't accept food
16:41:52  <Stablean> <bon> yeah..I mean I knew FIRS had some...but I didn't think there was one here too
16:41:56  <Stablean> <bon> ahh mm good point
16:42:50  <Stablean> <Sylf> oooooh
16:42:56  <Stablean> <Sylf> my island finally got a forest
16:42:59  <Stablean> <bon> heh? :)
16:43:21  <Stablean> <Sylf> oh, I even got 2 already
16:43:21  <Stablean> <Jam35> yeah i should have added more industries
16:43:32  <Stablean> <Jam35> to get started... one more click :)
16:43:46  <Stablean> <bon> jam35 .. spread them a bit too perhaps ... I found three oil refineries so close to each others
16:43:52  <Stablean> <bon> :)
16:43:54  <Stablean> <Jam35> it's random
16:44:00  <Stablean> <bon> ah...good point :-s
16:44:17  <Stablean> <Jam35> it would take a long time to pick & delete etc
16:44:52  <Stablean> <Sylf> I generate the map first by using start a new game option, not within the scenario editor
16:45:07  <Stablean> <Sylf> so I actually don't know how many clicks is the right balance for number of industries
16:45:33  <Stablean> <Sylf> then rename the .sav to .scn, load the file in scenario editor, and add the welcome board
16:46:28  <Stablean> <Jam35> interesting idea :)
16:47:02  <Stablean> <Jam35> this amount was 3 clicks
16:47:24  <Stablean> <Sylf> kk
16:48:02  <Stablean> <bon> duh heh..I had to check... the water inlet by Prefingley Market is 11 tiles long
16:48:08  <Stablean> <bon> just one tile too far :)
16:48:14  <Stablean> <Jam35> on purpose :)
16:48:14  <Stablean> <bon> (like that movie titled "a bridge too far"
16:48:40  <Stablean> <bon> mmm not that costly to raise one more land tile...I guess in future a bridge link there seem plausible
16:48:58  <Stablean> <bon> I always could bridge to that livestock farm on other side when that time comes heh heh
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16:50:04  <Stablean> <Jam35> it's expensive but not impossible
16:50:27  <Stablean> <bon> yeah just one tile is enough to get two bridges in for low traffic amounts
16:50:53  <Stablean> <bon> but for now I'll stick to whats on one single island atm...oh yeah I should rename something...
16:51:21  <Stablean> <bon> guess my company name seem fitting for my sole purpose I have now :)
16:51:39  <Stablean> *** Sylf has left the game (connection lost)
16:52:59  <Stablean> <bon> i'll wait to run food trains when I come back later to avoid population surprises anyway
16:53:09  <Stablean> <bon> going off for a bit now mm
16:53:36  <Stablean> <bon> jam and happy tran .. have fun as usual ok? ;)
16:53:46  <Stablean> <bon> oh yeah happy trans just one quick question in case...
16:54:04  <Stablean> <bon> your tracks near Minningstone ... is it always going to be two or you plan to add more in parallel?
16:55:38  <Stablean> <bon> well you can sign how many tracks  you were going have so I can leave enough space when I bridge over it to get to that farm
16:55:44  <Stablean> <bon> anyway ..going off now
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16:59:00  <Stablean> *** Player has changed his/her name to slimmy
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17:09:27  <Stablean> <V453000> o_O left hand traffix XD
17:10:59  <Stablean> <Sylf> yuuuuuup
17:18:34  <Stablean> *** Player has started a new company (#6)
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17:19:43  <Stablean> <V453000> SO
17:19:46  <Stablean> <V453000> what is nuts missing XD
17:19:56  <Stablean> <Sylf> squirrels
17:20:45  <Stablean> <V453000> :d
17:21:00  <Stablean> <V453000> no that would make too much sense
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17:21:12  <Stablean> <Sylf> no, not for a game play
17:21:12  <Stablean> <Liuk Sk> hi
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17:26:43  <Stablean> <V453000> how about a train class with 13 engines? :P
17:27:11  <Stablean> <Sylf> the ultimate upgrade class?
17:27:45  <Stablean> <V453000> ultimate mayhem class :)
17:31:56  <Stablean> <V453000> did you intend to get ships later Sylf?
17:32:02  <Stablean> <Sylf> yes
17:32:12  <Stablean> <V453000> cargo eating ones?
17:32:15  <Stablean> <Sylf> yes
17:32:26  <Stablean> <V453000> you might want to make sure you know how they work now :)
17:32:37  <Stablean> <Sylf> oh?  o
17:32:39  <Stablean> <Sylf> ok
17:32:45  <Stablean> <V453000> I originally forgot to add one key function which stresses refit
17:32:59  <Stablean> <V453000> they double  power when eating - when full
17:33:06  <Stablean> <Sylf> right
17:33:18  <Stablean> <V453000> now normally, this means they are shit when empty, but...
17:33:40  <Stablean> <V453000> the thing is, the detection only works for the ship itself, if wagons are empty, it wont discover it
17:33:56  <Stablean> <V453000> which means that you can refit ship to mail/pax, and pretend it is full on the way back
17:33:58  <Stablean> <V453000> :D
17:34:04  <Stablean> <Sylf> :P
17:34:07  <Stablean> <V453000> (vehicle itself has capacity now)
17:34:18  <Stablean> <V453000> so you sacrifice only small bit of capacity that way
17:34:28  <Stablean> <V453000> just a hint for the future
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17:37:12  <Stablean> <V453000> at the same time they also weigh like 30% less when empty, so the 50% power reduction might not be as brutal as I may think
17:37:18  <Stablean> <V453000> I didnt quite test it too much yet :)
17:37:44  <Stablean> <Sylf> it's ok
17:37:47  <Stablean> <Sylf> this is the test bed
17:37:51  <Stablean> <V453000> :)
17:39:33  <Stablean> <V453000> wondering if I should spoil the surprise and say the newest wtf I am doing but hm :|
17:39:44  <Stablean> <Sylf> no
17:39:50  <Stablean> <Sylf> don't tell
17:39:52  <Stablean> <V453000> :)
17:41:18  <Stablean> <V453000> but but :D
17:41:21  <Stablean> <Sylf> XD
17:41:59  <Stablean> <V453000> k I will try not to but it is HARD this time :D
17:42:48  <Sturmi> tell, tell :D
17:43:16  <Stablean> <V453000> I can let you guess
17:43:26  <Stablean> <V453000> [which has around 0% chance of success :D]
17:43:31  <Sturmi> :D
17:43:35  <Stablean> <V453000> is that helpful Sturmi? :D
17:43:47  <Sturmi> not really
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17:44:39  <Stablean> <V453000> perfect? :D
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17:46:21  <Stablean> <Sturmi> wth
17:46:27  <Stablean> <Sturmi> weird colors
17:46:33  <Stablean> <Sylf> ?
17:46:41  <Stablean> <Sylf> the ground and the farm?
17:46:47  <Stablean> <Sturmi> the farms have blue fields
17:46:57  <Stablean> <Sylf> those are rice fields
17:47:03  <Stablean> <Sylf> water filled rice paddies
17:47:18  <Stablean> <V453000> thats the official exlanation
17:47:28  <Stablean> <Sturmi> kinda aggressive colors
17:47:30  <Stablean> <V453000> truth is that author used crystal meth
17:47:36  <Stablean> <Sturmi> lol V
17:52:24  <Stablean> <V453000> k fuck it I am telling yon anyway, I cant think of anything and need hints
17:52:26  <Stablean> <V453000> so
17:52:57  <Stablean> <V453000> to give it some background, new wetrails add a function where trains adapt based on which track they are on - ships on dry get penalties
17:53:15  <Stablean> <V453000> what I coded today are trains which get stat bonuses based on colour of purr they are on
17:53:25  <Stablean> <Sylf> :o
17:53:43  <Stablean> <Sylf> that's wtf
17:53:43  <Stablean> <V453000> current stuff I have is red +30% speed, blue 30% power, yellow 30% te, green 10% each
17:53:51  <Stablean> <V453000> need to think of something for white
17:54:10  <Stablean> <V453000> that is brutal wtf as it adds whole new dimension to build with :)
17:54:33  <Jam35> only engines? or +capacity
17:54:43  <Stablean> <V453000> capacity doesnt really make sense
17:54:49  <Stablean> <V453000> once you would reduce it you would lose the cargo
17:54:51  <Stablean> <Sylf> capacity flux isn't good
17:55:18  <Stablean> <V453000> not to mention that I have promised that I will not touch capacity on the go after the brainmelters desynced the game and I got a patch which fixed that :D
17:55:44  <Stablean> <V453000> I wanted to give them tilt on clean purr, but that cant be done :|
17:55:50  <Stablean> <V453000> tilt flag cant change like that
17:55:57  <Stablean> <Sylf> awww
17:56:47  <Stablean> <V453000> so your homework will be to invent what to do for clean purr :D after all, even the name suggests that there doesnt necessarily have to be any bonus
17:56:56  <Jam35> well there are no other stats to improve/reduce
17:57:04  <Stablean> <V453000> there is weight
17:57:35  <Stablean> <V453000> increasing weight can help with downhill, but idk if that actually is an advantage in the end
17:57:38  <Stablean> <Sylf> we can do +20% te -10% power etc too
17:57:44  <Stablean> <Sylf> not that I want that exactly
17:57:58  <Stablean> <V453000> yeah, but I dont want to make it overcomplicated like that
17:58:05  <Stablean> <V453000> simple X Y or Z, or bit of each, sounds more friendly
17:59:16  <Stablean> <V453000> loading speed was reasonable, but that would just mean you build clean purr on platforms and nothing else so thats a bit dumb
18:00:40  <Jam35> what happens when you add more colours to PURR? :)
18:00:41  <Stablean> <V453000> ... their native track type is monorail which already gives a "no bonus" track so ... :)
18:00:51  <Stablean> <V453000> I probably wont add more colours
18:00:57  <Stablean> <V453000> 5 is already pretty good
18:01:15  <Jam35> alternate set?
18:01:17  <Stablean> <V453000> more is just clutter in the railtype window
18:01:19  <Stablean> <V453000> but meh
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18:04:08  <Stablean> <V453000> well, if you had any good ideas, contest of wtf is open :P
18:04:22  <Stablean> <V453000> dont suggest visuals
18:04:28  <Stablean> <V453000> that is already decided :)
18:07:33  <Jam35> I can only think of largely increase one stat for reduction in others so tracks are used in the right situation/terrain. Or largely increase running costs for stat boost. Or something.
18:08:34  <V453000> costs are nothing
18:09:28  <V453000> I thought you figured that already? :P
18:10:51  <Jam35> I know but enough to perhaps stop the train making profit somehow, if overused
18:11:08  <Jam35> then it may be idk
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18:12:08  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> be  back later
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18:12:41  <Stablean> <Sylf> D:
18:13:44  <V453000> which is nice Jam35, but e.g. not just the ratio of how many clean:other purr tracks you would have, but also distance you transport cargo etc
18:13:56  <V453000> impossible to make sensible conclusion what the costs should be
18:14:48  <Jam35> yes
18:15:15  <V453000> some mechanism with the weight is probably the only option
18:15:18  <V453000> but how
18:15:47  <V453000> decreasing weight for uphills sounds dumb
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18:18:31  <Stablean> <V453000> spectate progaming
18:18:33  <Stablean> <V453000> GGGGG
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18:19:43  <Jam35> not sure what exactly but a TL based thing?
18:19:55  <V453000> hm
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19:33:18  <Stablean> <bon> sometimes I wonder if I'm overkilling it on a bit with slight longer platforms but meh guess I'll find out in 40+ years
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19:49:23  <happy> hi  all
19:49:27  <Stablean> <bon> hi happy :)
19:49:43  <Stablean> <bon> how doing happy?
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19:49:47  <Stablean> <bon> heh
19:49:57  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> good
19:50:15  <Stablean> <bon> just working toward more fruits/farm now...then later finally do some food :)
19:52:12  <happy> dam  password  i  shor  its  my  latop   keep  doing  this
19:52:40  <Stablean> <bon> oic...can't get back in again?
19:52:56  <happy> yep
19:53:01  <Stablean> <bon> :s
19:54:52  <Jam35> !players
19:54:52  <happy> jam
19:54:54  <Stablean> Jam35: Client 30 is Sylf, a spectator
19:54:54  <Stablean> Jam35: Client 46 (Brown) is bon, in company 3 (Farmers Railroad)
19:54:54  <Stablean> Jam35: Client 17 is Anson, a spectator
19:54:54  <Stablean> Jam35: Client 48 is happy tran  sport, a spectator
19:55:32  <Stablean> <bon> you sure got a lot of trains ...seem like you almost could use the other pair of tracks soon enough
19:56:04  <Jam35> reset your password
19:56:06  <Stablean> <bon> oh yeah I left you a sign atm..can you tell me if thats ok?
19:56:07  <happy> yep  i was  making  it   2  way  ml
19:56:35  <Stablean> <bon> I normally was going make the tunnel as short as I could but thought to leave 2 extra tiles for you tho
19:57:12  <happy> thanks   jam
19:57:34  <Jam35> np reset your password :)
19:57:50  <happy> i  have  now
19:59:00  <Jam35> ok bb
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19:59:09  <happy> bb
20:03:27  <Stablean> <bon> 0_o
20:03:57  <Stablean> <bon> that...really left a mark
20:09:04  <Stablean> <bon> mm anyone know if its not too unusual to eg have stations set up where coal2 feeds into nearby coal1 which then actually takes it most of the long distance to powerplant .. rather than two separate sets of trains?
20:09:19  <Stablean> <bon> (justs asking in term of coop maps)
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20:15:47  <Stablean> <bon> hi again thepower :)
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20:19:06  <Stablean> <bon> hi as usual sylf :)
20:19:28  <Stablean> <Sylf> hmm
20:19:50  <Stablean> <bon> thinking of something to build? :)
20:20:12  <Stablean> <Sylf> no
20:20:18  <Stablean> <Sylf> I know what I want to build
20:20:24  <Stablean> <bon> oh ok..sorry I asked then
20:20:46  <Stablean> <Sylf> oh
20:20:54  <Stablean> <Sylf> this is the first fruits plantation on the island
20:21:04  <Stablean> <bon> I noticed that news too
20:21:47  <Stablean> <bon> I'm about to leap islands...I think...working slowly now
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20:31:12  <Stablean> <bon> hi djanxy :)
20:31:18  <Stablean> <Djanxy> oi
20:31:28  <Stablean> <bon> how're you? heh
20:31:32  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> hi  djanxy
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20:33:06  <Stablean> <V453000> moo
20:33:06  <Stablean> <bon> hi hi?  :)
20:33:08  <Stablean> <bon> heh
20:33:31  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> ok  thats  harf   ov my   net  werk  2  ml
20:33:41  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> wb v
20:33:59  <Stablean> <V453000> hi hi.
20:35:33  <Stablean> <Djanxy> these farms hurt my eyes :D
20:35:39  <Stablean> <bon> heh??
20:35:49  <Stablean> <Djanxy> strange colors
20:35:51  <Stablean> <bon> they're my primary profits atm :P
20:35:57  <Stablean> <V453000> bon and the story of 10000 separate lines again?:D
20:36:47  <Stablean> <bon> v453000 heh I decided to let them have their own group of locomotives so for now...but when I get to higher-capacity wagons with something like monorail I may try priority-controlled station loop to catch all of them in one
20:37:15  <Stablean> <V453000> you dont need any high level logic to just make one big station instead of 6 small ...
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20:38:17  <Stablean> <bon> djanxy btw some of the colour is from because its rice fields "flooded" in water I suspect
20:38:41  <Stablean> <bon> not sure what the proper term to call it is...I just know that the rices basically grow in some height of water
20:38:43  <Stablean> <Djanxy> yeah
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20:39:41  <Stablean> <bon> have fun djanxy...and sorry no diamonds here? :P heh
20:39:43  <Stablean> <Djanxy> :D
20:39:49  <Stablean> <Djanxy> oh god pink
20:39:59  <Stablean> <bon> I got pink at first too..don't ask me :-s
20:40:01  <Stablean> <Djanxy> better
20:40:15  <Stablean> <bon> I suspect it always default to the first free colour...which in this case now is....pink!
20:40:18  <Stablean> <bon> :)
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20:40:34  <Stablean> <Sylf> let's see
20:40:36  <Stablean> <Sylf> nope.
20:40:44  <Stablean> <V453000> purr purr
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20:40:55  <Stablean> <bon> huh...strange...eh oh well
20:41:09  <Stablean> <bon> v453000 just so I know I'm remembering this right....
20:41:35  <Stablean> <bon> all track types works with anything, single exception is WET ships which wouldn't run 'full speed' unless they have wetrails instead
20:41:49  <Stablean> <V453000> uhmmm no?
20:41:55  <Stablean> <V453000> each track type is special
20:42:06  <Stablean> <V453000> universal tracks and purr (are universal too) can run any train
20:42:35  <Stablean> <V453000> happy, paper pickup :)
20:43:11  <Stablean> <bon> mmm maybe I'll rather not ask just to avoid confusing myself then
20:43:53  <Stablean> <V453000> :D well not asking is probably not going to help with confusion
20:43:55  <Stablean> <V453000> but
20:43:58  <Stablean> <V453000> every train has its "native" track type
20:44:08  <Stablean> <V453000> it can run on that, and nothing else
20:44:11  <Stablean> <bon> heh...Land Of Confusion almost seem fitting title then :)
20:44:13  <Stablean> <V453000> with exception of universal tracks
20:44:19  <Stablean> <bon> thanks anyway ;)
20:44:35  <Stablean> <V453000> it shouldnt be that hard to understand :)
20:44:37  <Stablean> <bon> one way or another.. NUTS is too much fun
20:44:39  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> thanks  v
20:44:42  <Stablean> <V453000> :)
20:49:01  <Stablean> <Djanxy> drive on left? :/
20:49:15  <Stablean> <V453000> ask Jam35 what up with that XD
20:49:17  <Stablean> <bon> djanxy....why does it matter when we're not playing a specific country?  I'm only asking ofc
20:49:25  <Stablean> <V453000> anyway, I will play with you after I finish 0.6.1 :)
20:49:27  <Stablean> <Djanxy> because the signals stand in the other side
20:49:29  <Stablean> <V453000> for now, gnight :)
20:49:37  <Stablean> <Djanxy> confusing
20:49:40  <Stablean> <Djanxy> nn V
20:49:50  <Stablean> <V453000> yes I hate it too :) but you will have to deal with it I guess :)
20:49:56  <Stablean> <Sylf> I'm with Djanxy on this one
20:50:06  <Stablean> <V453000> reload map? :)
20:50:09  <Stablean> <V453000> only green will lose password
20:50:12  <Stablean> <V453000> rest is present
20:50:18  <Stablean> <V453000> k sec
20:50:28  <Stablean> <bon> meh ok :)
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20:50:42  <Stablean> <Sylf> actually, green should be reset anyway :P
20:51:24  <V453000> where was that setting
20:51:24  <V453000> :d
20:51:34  <Stablean> <Djanxy> normal game settings
20:51:36  <Stablean> <Sylf> Game options
20:51:38  <Stablean> <Sylf> not advanced
20:51:38  <Stablean> <Djanxy> not advanced
20:52:04  <Stablean> <bon> can I repair something and you'll warn me when you're going reset or... ?
20:52:05  <V453000> oh
20:52:06  <V453000> asdf
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20:52:36  <Stablean> <Yuuray> hi
20:52:42  <Stablean> <Sylf> no, don't build anything yet
20:53:04  <Stablean> <bon> nevermind...I finished my little repair job
20:53:10  <Stablean> <bon> just watching trains now :)
20:53:14  <V453000> !getsave https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/20419525/StableNUTS86a.sav
20:53:17  <Stablean> V453000: OK :-)
20:53:18  <V453000> !rcon pwd
20:53:18  <Stablean> V453000: /home/ottdc/svn-stable/autopilot/save/uploads/
20:53:20  <V453000> !rcon load 2
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20:53:57  <Stablean> <Djanxy> cheers for that
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20:54:00  <V453000> !auto
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20:54:05  <Stablean> <bon> now my signals are on inside ... oh well :)
20:54:05  <Stablean> <Sylf> oh fuck
20:54:07  <Stablean> <V453000> you are welcome
20:54:10  <Stablean> <V453000> yeah :)
20:54:13  <Stablean> <Sylf> now I need to fix my stuff everywhore
20:54:16  <Stablean> <Sylf> where*
20:54:18  <Stablean> <V453000> XD
20:54:24  <Stablean> <V453000> go give Jam35 shit :D
20:54:26  <Stablean> <Sylf> might as well be everywhore
20:54:58  <Stablean> <V453000> aye
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20:55:22  <Stablean> <V453000> now you ought to build the most awesome network ever seen Djanxy
20:55:36  <Stablean> <Djanxy> unlikely
20:55:38  <Stablean> <Djanxy> :P
20:55:44  <Stablean> <V453000> bon wtf are you doing at that water crossing :d
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20:56:32  <Stablean> <V453000> hi :)
20:56:38  <Stablean> <Sylf> bon, stick with one island
20:56:48  <Stablean> <Maraxus> hi :)
20:57:00  <V453000> !rcon reset_company 4
20:57:00  <Stablean> V453000: Company deleted.
20:57:10  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> hi
20:58:05  <Stablean> <Djanxy> bad start, connected wrong industry lol
20:58:21  <Stablean> <V453000> XD
20:58:39  <Stablean> <V453000> easy to do with ogfx+ industries but iron ore mine is kind of a safe bet generally :P
20:58:54  <Stablean> <Sylf> oh
20:59:04  <Stablean> <Sylf> damn, I have an iron ore mine too now
20:59:24  <Stablean> <V453000> you guys clearly need new nuts :P
20:59:27  <Stablean> <V453000> that will solve all problems
20:59:33  <Stablean> <V453000> including africa overcrowding
20:59:51  <Stablean> <Sylf> nuts is your answer to everything
21:00:02  <Stablean> <V453000> it is !
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21:04:34  <Stablean> <V453000> bon btw it is wise to use 1 train and 1 station for 1 pickup cargo
21:04:44  <Stablean> <V453000> -> splitting farms livestock/grain
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21:05:11  <Stablean> <V453000> as each of the things grows independently, you can easily have a farm with e.g. 50 livestock and 1000 grain production
21:05:17  <Stablean> <V453000> for example
21:07:48  <Stablean> <Sylf> damn, oil wells are dying
21:13:54  <Stablean> <bon> sorry was looking at a wiki page then had to go to bathroom for a minute....
21:14:32  <Stablean> <bon> djanxy I probably missed it .. what did you misconnected at first? :)
21:15:26  <Stablean> <bon> sylf...well it was either prospect several farms in the hope just one will be 'here' or spend same amount to get to two existing ones?
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21:16:17  <Stablean> <bon> and re nuts being answer....I guess thats too true heh
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21:21:14  <Stablean> <V453000> oh daym
21:21:17  <Stablean> <V453000> changing oil wells
21:21:19  <Stablean> <V453000> min
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21:22:17  <V453000> !getsave https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/20419525/StableNUTS86b.sav
21:22:20  <Stablean> V453000: OK :-)
21:22:21  <V453000> !rcon load 2
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21:22:38  <V453000> thats hopefully the last change :)
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21:22:50  <Stablean> <bon> at least it wasn't a hard reset so I'm ok :)
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21:24:01  <Stablean> <bon> heh...nice...the wet wagons are out now
21:26:32  <Stablean> <V453000> yes all wagons should come 2-3 years before the actual engines for them, to make sure wagons are always available :)
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21:31:26  <Stablean> <Djanxy> hmm, tanker wagons can refit to livestock :o
21:31:40  <Stablean> <bon> probably really "milk" :P
21:31:42  <Stablean> <bon> heh
21:31:58  <Stablean> <Djanxy> or liquified cows
21:32:05  <Stablean> <bon> ...heh? :)
21:40:17  <Sturmi> put a cow in a mixer >> liquified cow
21:40:25  <Stablean> <bon> >_< heh
21:40:42  <Sturmi> some red tint in it but ok
21:41:29  <Stablean> <V453000> FISH fuckers
21:41:48  <Stablean> <V453000> ps. fish is a firs cargo which indeed is white in tankers
21:42:15  <Stablean> <bon> well thats fillets :)
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21:47:06  <Stablean> <bon> djanxy..just curious..any particular town that you want to see growing? (I'm guessing kennville too)
21:47:24  <Stablean> <Djanxy> rather not grow any ;)
21:47:28  <Stablean> <bon> heh np
21:48:22  <Stablean> <Djanxy> plan to make a ring, just wanted quick and dirty lines to keep industries alive
21:48:32  <Stablean> <bon> mm :)
21:48:38  <Stablean> <Djanxy> no paper mill on mah island, wtb
21:49:25  <Stablean> <Djanxy> oh man, tripled livestock production
21:49:29  <Stablean> <Djanxy> 6->18
21:50:07  <Stablean> <bon> well djanxy this only an optional offer...I could fund a mill wherever you want it in exchange for using the farm near dadinghall?
21:50:13  <Stablean> <bon> if not np...only mentioned it
21:50:39  <Stablean> <Djanxy> nah its fine, one will likely pop up :D
21:50:45  <Stablean> <bon> ok :)
21:50:53  <Stablean> <Djanxy> off to bed soonish, early work
21:50:55  <Stablean> <bon> don't mind if I hop over your line once still?
21:51:05  <Stablean> <bon> ah...mmm yeah.. tomorrow is monday right? :-s
21:51:23  <Stablean> <Djanxy> what line ?
21:53:26  <Stablean> <bon> the one near Flinborough East
21:53:38  <Stablean> <bon> (I can leave 6+ tiles clear)
21:54:28  <Stablean> <Djanxy> uhm i guess
21:54:36  <Stablean> <Djanxy> why are you all the way overhere anyways :D
21:55:13  <Sylf> did I not say to stick with one island?
21:55:32  <Stablean> <bon> just picking up one last farm ... seeing that the dern fund window wouldn't let me specify an area
21:56:57  <Sylf> still, stick with one area of the map
21:57:37  <Stablean> <bon> sylf....meh...I guess they need a new network feature...funding industries only in a specific zone then :|
21:57:49  <Sylf> there is one already
21:57:55  <Sylf> but it's turned off for a reason
21:59:27  <Stablean> <bon> I'm a bit confused by the contrast?
22:00:37  <Sylf> what contrast?
22:01:27  <Stablean> <bon> unable to go to an industry yet unable to actually fund it neither....?
22:02:22  <Sylf> You can prospect industries, but you better be rich enough to do that
22:02:38  <Sylf> But normally, there are enough industries to keep players busy within a given region
22:03:08  <Stablean> <bon> I'm starting to think the tropical map seemed a lot better but meh thats just a personal comment :)
22:03:09  <Sylf> and the reason we have a map filled with big islands is so each company can occupy one island and no more
22:03:55  <Sylf> each map is different obviously
22:08:14  <Stablean> <Djanxy> oh bon, see now why you asked about town growth
22:08:17  <Stablean> <Djanxy> since i built roads ?
22:08:31  <Stablean> <bon> well it was only a guessing I wasn't sure
22:09:01  <Stablean> <Djanxy> cant really get to that end of the island with trains so wanted to make sure there was road for lorry feeders :D
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22:12:42  <Stablean> <bon> heh mm yeah
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22:34:35  <Stablean> <bon> ehh need to get supper fried etc
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