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Log for #openttd on 25th November 2006:
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00:02:47  <Gonozal_VIII> miniin 7255
00:08:26  <glx> compiles fine for me (VS2005 debug and release)
00:08:55  <Sacro> glx: is VS2005 easy to get going?
00:09:34  <glx> I followed the wiki (just the afxres.h part seems wrong in it)
00:09:55  <Sacro> glx: afxres seemed kinda pointless...
00:10:15  <Sacro> #ifndef AFXRES_H #define AFXRES_H #endif
00:10:24  <glx> yes clearly :)
00:10:36  <glx> that's why I use the one from MFC
00:10:47  <Sacro> ahh
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00:23:17  <orudge> Hmm, somebody remind me to look at the OS/2 version of OpenTTD next Thursday :p
00:23:46  * glx make a post it :)
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02:02:51  <Gonozal_VIII> 678 errors, 49 warnings
02:06:41  <Eddi|zuHause3> Gonozal_VIII: update the files from useful.zip
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02:09:30  <Gonozal_VIII> hmmm wo is die?
02:12:24  <Gonozal_VIII> habs
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02:35:09  <Gonozal_VIII> openttd - 707 error(s), 79 warning(s)
02:36:04  <glx> you probably miss something
02:36:40  <Gonozal_VIII> i probably suck at compiling
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02:40:01  <Gonozal_VIII> f:\microsoft visual studio 8\vc\include\malloc.h(115) : error C2373: 'calloc' : redefinition; different type modifiers <-- there is no malloc.h file in that folder
02:45:58  <PandaMojo> Gonozal_VIII: Use the _vs80 project/solution
02:46:08  <Gonozal_VIII> i did
02:46:22  <PandaMojo> Then you f'ed up VS8 installation probably >_>
02:47:17  <PandaMojo> Hmm.
02:47:26  <PandaMojo> Did you install the platform SDK?
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02:47:41  <PandaMojo> I'm 99% certain the headers would be in the base install but you never know
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02:48:09  <PandaMojo> Alternatively, use windows "find" to locate malloc.h
02:48:27  <PandaMojo> There's a few odd subdirectories that VS8 has for some stuff in that regard.
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03:02:20  <Gonozal_VIII> wow...
03:02:20  <Gonozal_VIII> openttd - 3856 error(s), 99 warning(s)
03:03:15  <PandaMojo> Stop screwing things up even more ~_~
03:03:17  <PandaMojo> :P
03:03:38  <Gonozal_VIII> undeclared identifier
03:03:59  <Gonozal_VIII> trolly.c
03:03:59  <Gonozal_VIII> .\ai\trolly\trolly.c(51) : error C2065: 'TEMP_AI_IN_PROGRESS' : undeclared identifier
03:03:59  <Gonozal_VIII> water_cmd.c
03:03:59  <Gonozal_VIII> .\water_cmd.c(67) : error C2065: 'STR_3801_MUST_BE_BUILT_ON_WATER' : undeclared identifier
03:03:59  <Gonozal_VIII> .\water_cmd.c(133) : error C2065: 'STR_1000_LAND_SLOPED_IN_WRONG_DIRECTION' : undeclared identifier
03:04:01  <Gonozal_VIII> ...
03:04:35  <glx> you must compile strgen first
03:04:45  <glx> then lang then openttd
03:05:01  <glx> but "build solution" should take care of that
03:06:45  <Gonozal_VIII> i was down to 79 errors, all missing file table/strings.h so i moved that file there
03:07:43  <glx> table/strings.h is created by strgen
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03:13:25  <Gonozal_VIII> oh, something new... warning treated as error
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03:15:36  <Gonozal_VIII> everything i do seems to make things worse so i'll stop now and wait for a new build here http://nightly.openttd.org/MiniIN/files/
03:16:45  <glx> latest miniin is available on the forum :)
03:17:36  <Gonozal_VIII> oh... should have looked there before the whole mess
03:19:54  <Gonozal_VIII> thank you :-)
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06:46:48  <jnmbk> Hi, what does show company liveries do? (asking because I'll translate it :)
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07:17:15  <jnmbk> anyway, I'll translate it later then... g2g
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08:27:49  <CIA-2> KUDr * r7256 /trunk/lang/turkish.txt: -Translation: [FS#408] Turkish lang file massive update (jnmbk)
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09:39:52  <Wolf01> morning
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10:42:17  <lolman> fuck wrong server :P
10:43:44  <Noldo> and a missing / maybe
10:43:52  <lolman> Yeah that too
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10:44:09  <peter1138> but we have the password
10:44:16  <peter1138> now we just need the server :D
10:44:17  <lolman> XChat changed which network it was viewing
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11:13:11  <Spitfireleet> i found a bug: whenever you try to make aircraft with like a few vehicles, it comes up to say that there are too many vehicles in the game
11:15:52  <Tron> i don't understand this sentence
11:16:20  <lolman> How many vehicles do you have?
11:16:36  <CIA-2> peter1138 * r7257 /trunk/lang/ (catalan.txt danish.txt galician.txt german.txt romanian.txt): -Fix (r7216): Fix doubly-utf8-encoded strings that crept in
11:17:03  <Spitfireleet> lets say that there are 3 trains on my co and the others have like a few road vehicles
11:17:15  <Spitfireleet> and maybe a couple of trains
11:17:32  <lolman> And what's the max number of vehicles set to?
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11:17:38  <peter1138> check the max aircraft in the patch settings
11:19:44  <Spitfireleet> ah thanks
11:35:11  <jnmbk> peter1138: Will you add this or thinking of another another solution :) http://fuzzle.org/o/turkish.diff
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12:48:03  <HMage> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v624/Centrifuge2/ps3launchonlyonxbox360ls1.jpg
12:48:52  <Zevensoft> lol
12:58:05  <HMage> :)
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13:01:36  <tormentum> haha love it
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13:28:30  <Wolf01> mmmm why in the Patch are trying to clone all my ideas?
13:28:44  <Wolf01> adjacent stations, eyecandy...
13:31:17  <HMage> ?
13:31:59  <Wolf01> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?t=28293
13:31:59  <Wolf01> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?t=28517
13:36:27  <HMage> ok
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16:39:46  <edeca> Does the UK train set not work with tropical?  That's my favorite but it appears the newgrf makes no difference in that climate :(
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17:00:16  <Ailure> heh it's even designed to not be actiaved in tropical
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17:24:03  <edeca> Ailure: Ah, unfortunate, I am halfway through a tropical game
17:24:22  <edeca> Ailure: I guess I will have to start a temperate game next
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17:34:57  <Sacro> oh nows
17:34:59  <Sacro> oh yays!
17:39:03  <edeca> Eh? :)
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17:46:29  <Coutal> hello. i've discovered a silly 'bug' in openttd - airplanes can't drown, unlike road vehicles and trains
17:55:24  *** d0zer [~kratt@84-50-21-230-dsl.kjj.estpak.ee] has joined #openttd
17:55:28  <d0zer> hello
17:55:32  <d0zer> i have question
17:55:48  <d0zer> how to convert Transport Tycoon Deluxe maps to Open TTD
17:56:34  <Sacro> doesnt OpenTTD just open them?
17:56:44  <d0zer> no
17:58:07  <edeca> Coutal: Drown?
17:59:01  <d0zer> ?
17:59:08  <d0zer> and what is that means?
17:59:10  <Coutal> edeca: yes. if you build rail at sea level, then let water flow through it, the vehicles will drown
17:59:20  <Zaviori> or sunk :p
17:59:20  <d0zer> #care
17:59:25  <d0zer> how to convert Transport Tycoon Deluxe maps to Open TTD
17:59:58  <Coutal> you even get a nice 'newspaper' message - trains lost due to severe floods, XX missing, presumed dead
18:00:15  <d0zer> lol
18:00:15  <Coutal> but... if there's an airfield on the way, with an airplane in it, it will not be demolished right until the airplane takes off
18:00:20  <d0zer> now i know how do do this
18:00:21  <d0zer> but
18:00:23  <Coutal> at that immediate instant the airfield is demolished
18:00:31  <d0zer> what port i need to play OPEN ttd in internet
18:00:34  <Coutal> and the plane will soon crash due to lack of fuel, if you sent it nowhere.
18:00:37  <d0zer> what port game uses
18:00:54  <Coutal> d0zer: usually 3979
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18:06:46  <Ailure> you just open the m,aps
18:07:02  <Ailure> although I had the game to crash on me when I attempt some of my old savegames
18:12:21  <d0zer> how i can create game
18:12:28  <d0zer> like do i need port after ip?
18:12:34  <d0zer> or only ip
18:12:49  <d0zer> and how i see my server works
18:14:00  <Ailure> You mkae someone connect itfrom the outside
18:14:01  <Ailure> <_<
18:14:09  <Ailure> or you start another client and make it connect to localhost
18:14:19  <Ailure> but that's dosen't prove if your server is connectable over intenret
18:16:01  <d0zer> yes but my ports are opened
18:16:16  <d0zer> what connection do i need to but when i start server
18:16:23  <d0zer> like internet/lan
18:16:31  <d0zer> or internet(adverstiment)
18:18:10  <d0zer> ????
18:18:15  <d0zer> somebody knows answer
18:18:23  <d0zer> or how can i change port
18:18:32  <d0zer> in game
18:18:58  <edeca> Coutal: Heh, nice, flooded tgrains :)
18:19:03  <edeca> Coutal: I see now, thanks
18:22:29  <Coutal> turns out it was thought of in the code
18:24:50  <jnmbk> d0zer: server port number is in openttd.cfg
18:25:24  <d0zer> ok
18:25:26  <d0zer> but
18:25:31  <d0zer> oo
18:25:32  <d0zer> ok
18:25:42  <d0zer> i change from that openttd.cfg?
18:25:47  <jnmbk> yep
18:25:56  <d0zer> ok i try
18:25:59  <d0zer> stay here
18:26:22  <d0zer> can i use port 80 or 21 also?
18:26:44  <jnmbk> maybe... I'm not sure...
18:28:01  <d0zer> but how i can see that the server works
18:28:23  <jnmbk> Someone can try connecting it :)
18:29:04  <d0zer> yes but what about www.openttd.org/servers.php?
18:29:18  <d0zer> can you connect to my server for a sec?
18:29:26  <d0zer> if you can
18:29:29  <jnmbk> if you have advertising on in openttd.cfg
18:29:39  <jnmbk> it should be shown there
18:30:38  <jnmbk> d0zer: give me ip and port numbers, I'll try
18:31:03  <d0zer> ok
18:31:20  <d0zer> 84.50.21.230
18:31:22  <d0zer> port 21
18:32:17  <jnmbk> d0zer: doesn't work, you musr forward the port...
18:32:27  <d0zer> i have
18:32:41  <d0zer> maybe my ip is wrong?
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18:35:33  <d0zer> lets see tomorrow
18:35:41  <d0zer> i go sleep time is 00.00
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18:36:34  <jnmbk> OTTD used to make me awake at night :)
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18:39:23  <Ailure> OTTD keeps me aweake
18:39:42  <Ailure> It's fun to play, even if you're 36 hours behind on sleep
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20:39:24  <Sacro> oh noes
20:40:06  <joaz> ?
20:41:05  <edeca> Yeah, why do you say that all the time? :)
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20:44:41  <Sacro> edeca: ongoing joke
20:49:52  * joaz laughs
20:51:57  <lolman> Oh noes...it's Sacro
20:52:08  <Sacro> yup
20:52:46  <lolman> I compiled a new kernel today...and it actually worked properly :o
20:52:54  <Sacro> ahh, kernel compiling is easy
20:53:00  * lolman is a n00b :P
20:53:41  <lolman> Only thing I had to do was recompile ndiswrapper and reinstall my nvidia drivers :)
20:54:03  <joaz> so? thank nvidia for that
20:54:17  <lolman> lol
20:54:45  <lolman> thank linksys too...no native drivers for my WLAN adapter
20:55:52  <lolman> But I ndiswrapper'd it up :P
20:58:18  <lolman> It's done good...I now have proper signal strength monitoring :P
20:59:03  <Sacro> hmm
20:59:13  <lolman> Sacro, ?
20:59:34  <Sacro> sorry... im feeling really crappy
20:59:42  <lolman> Ah, wassup?
20:59:54  <Sacro> loads on my mind
21:00:01  <lolman> Oh :( Sorry to hear
21:01:21  <Sacro> ah well...
21:01:32  <joaz> well...?
21:01:46  <lolman> Life could be much worse
21:02:22  <joaz> yeah, like forced to run windows vista
21:02:40  <lolman> haha
21:02:46  <lolman> I'll actually be buying it
21:02:59  <joaz> whaaa
21:03:29  <joaz> you can't buy it
21:03:37  <joaz> you have to "licence" it
21:03:46  <lolman> Well you know what I mean :)
21:04:59  <joaz> yes, but not why
21:05:13  <joaz> except you develope software for it i see no point
21:05:14  <lolman> Because I like it
21:05:46  <lolman> And when I eventually buy a new set of components to build a PC with I'll go DX10
21:06:27  <joaz> "now with solitare 3d" ?
21:06:34  <joaz> :)-
21:06:35  <lolman> haha
21:06:43  <lolman> nooo
21:07:05  <lolman> I like IE7, WMP11, and all the new features it has, like better RDC :P
21:07:20  <joaz>  /mod lolman -1 Troll
21:07:25  <lolman> :o
21:07:51  <lolman> BUT I like Linux as much, if not more
21:08:37  <lolman> I like the ability to install an application, and have the dependencies taken care of for me
21:09:53  <joaz> i like xfce :)
21:10:04  <lolman> I like Gnome + Beryl :P
21:10:16  * Sacro has a request if there are any devs around? Please can "openttd -v" just dump the version and nothing else
21:10:44  <joaz> on which version ? :)
21:10:53  * Sacro kicks joaz
21:11:08  <lolman> It's a request, not asking if it does
21:11:25  <joaz> i'v so many openttd binarys...
21:11:53  <lolman> I've just got svn's of trunk and MiniIN as well as 0.4.8
21:13:29  <lolman> brb
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21:14:49  <joaz> exit
21:14:51  <joaz> frak
21:14:58  <joaz> wrong tab
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21:21:10  <CIA-2> glx * r7258 /branches/makefile_rewrite/Makefile.src.in: [MakefileRewrite] -Fix: makedepend output was not correctly handled on windows
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21:45:01  <lolman> Oh noes...
21:47:40  * Sacro watches brainiac on youtube
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21:47:50  <Sacro> DAMN YOU FIREFOX
21:47:57  * Sacro stops watching brainiac
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21:48:56  <lolman> :o
21:48:59  <lolman> Link Sacro ?
21:51:50  <Sacro> youtube.com
21:53:35  <lolman> That's a bit obvious :P
21:54:00  <Sacro> yup
21:54:10  * SpComb did that on friday
21:54:21  <SpComb> branic is amusing, but crap in terms of the actual science :P
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22:00:20  <Sacro> lolman: i got GTR2
22:00:29  <lolman> heh
22:00:35  <lolman> I still play LFS :P
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22:01:28  <Sacro> its really good, though need a wheel and pedlas
22:01:34  <Sacro> lolman: can you get lfs for free?
22:01:42  <lolman> Demo yes
22:01:53  <lolman> And a cracked version that doesn't work online
22:02:00  <Sacro> that'd do for a start
22:02:11  <lolman> I'd personally find you and kill you if you did
22:03:15  <Sacro> thats fine..
22:03:51  <lolman> I actually bought a friend a license yesterday lol
22:04:08  <Sacro> will you buy me one?
22:04:11  <lolman> No :P
22:04:24  <lolman> I don't even know you that well :P
22:04:26  <Sacro> might just get rFactor instead
22:04:29  <lolman> NOOO!!!
22:04:34  <lolman> NOT rTractor!!
22:05:31  <lolman> rTractor FTL
22:05:45  <Sacro> why?
22:05:58  <lolman> The physics suck donkey balls :o
22:06:52  <Sacro> hmmmm
22:06:55  <Sacro> whats so good about lfs?
22:07:01  <lolman> The physics :P
22:09:28  <Sacro> hmm, does it have proper shifter and clutch support?
22:09:43  <lolman> Yeah, but stalling isn't done yet
22:09:59  <Sacro> shame
22:10:14  <lolman> Yeah, but H-shifters are fully supported
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22:10:39  <lolman> As are clutch pedals
22:12:27  <Sacro> im gonna be getting the logitech g25 in january i hope
22:14:03  <lolman> Lucky git
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22:17:31  <lolman> Vista on launch day here...lol
22:17:50  <edeca> Why wait, linux is out now :)
22:17:59  <lolman> I'm in Linux now ;-)
22:18:24  <edeca> So don't downgrade!
22:18:40  <lolman> I'll still be running Linux lol
22:19:34  <lolman> WINE doesn't run everything, and I don't have a legal copy of Windows...so I'll be buying Vista to both be up to date, and have a valid license
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22:20:23  <Naksu> well
22:20:34  <Naksu> wxp is probably more useless than wine in a couple of years
22:20:39  <Naksu> considering directx10 is vista-only
22:20:43  <lolman> Yeah
22:21:22  <edeca> That's so annoying, why make directx10 vista-only?
22:21:33  <lolman> Because of the way DX10 works
22:21:36  <glx> to force users to upgrade
22:21:40  <edeca> glx: Exactly :)
22:21:41  <lolman> And that
22:21:45  <edeca> Good thing openttd doesn't need it
22:22:02  <edeca> I agree that there must come a point when you don't support old software but WinXP is relatively new really
22:22:11  <lolman> 5 years...
22:22:45  <edeca> That's new as far as I'm concerned, I still run win2k ;)
22:22:50  <lolman> Ouch
22:23:04  <edeca> Well, I have a Win2k VM that gets powered up once in a blue moon
22:23:13  <lolman> lol
22:23:41  <edeca> I don't really game except OTTD so I don't need Windows
22:24:20  <lolman> Only thing I need Windows for is Live For Speed, and that runs in Cedega...
22:24:25  <lolman> but
22:24:43  <lolman> I'll be getting my hands on some DX10 hardware and games in the next 2 years
22:24:46  * edeca goes to watch TV
22:24:54  * Sacro now has GTR2, AoE3
22:25:28  <lolman> lol
22:25:32  * lolman wants Civ4
22:25:48  <Sacro> got that too
22:25:53  <lolman> Bah
22:25:59  <Sacro> and CivCity Rome
22:27:14  <lolman> I also want a copy of X-Plane...
22:27:20  <Sacro> me too...
22:27:23  <Sacro> i just have FSX
22:28:00  <lolman> I have neither
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22:44:29  <Sacro> oh noes
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23:13:04  <kampasky> is it known what tool did ludde use for generating the initial C code for OTTD?
23:13:38  <Sacro> kampasky: yes
23:14:08  <kampasky> cool.. what then? :)
23:14:24  <Sacro> Interactive Disassembler
23:14:52  <Sacro> hmm
23:16:01  <kampasky> ta
23:16:41  <Sacro> argh fsck, gnome panel has died
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23:17:42  <kampasky> wikipedia articles on software are missing "warez information" sections
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23:25:27  <Prof_Frink> Sacro: killall the bugger and gnome usually restarts it
23:25:28  <lolman> Oh noes...
23:25:39  <Sacro> Prof_Frink: nope, it just crahses
23:25:53  <Prof_Frink> Ah well, use KDE
23:25:56  <Sacro> anywho, i feel better after seeing the hot polish girl next door in the kitchen in her bra
23:26:12  <lolman> Damn you
23:28:07  <lolman> I want a hot polish girl to stare at :P
23:28:52  <Sacro> ahh, theres better things in life
23:29:07  <lolman> What like?
23:29:21  <Sacro> hot polish girl to have sex with
23:29:25  <lolman> True
23:30:05  <lolman> But there's no hope of that for me :P
23:31:08  *** Tuzlo [~bill@blk-215-68-38.eastlink.ca] has joined #openttd
23:31:53  <Tuzlo> can anyone tell me why, when I join a multiplayer game, set up my stations and vehicle production areas I cannot produce a vehicle
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23:42:13  <Zaviori> Do you have the required newgrfs?
23:42:48  <Tuzlo> possible not
23:43:15  <Tuzlo> where do I get them from
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23:44:14  <Zaviori> I have no idea.
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23:45:54  <Tuzlo> but would that be prevelant in every multiplayer game I have joined so far?
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