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00:06:51 *** Rens2Sea [~Rens2Sea@213.211.185.168] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:12:16 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1D706.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:28:42 *** KritiK [~Maxim@ppp83-237-103-138.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:37:10 <CIA-1> Darkvater * r7444 /trunk/ (graph_gui.c gui.h station_gui.c): 00:37:10 <CIA-1> -Codechange: Use one (global) cargo-colours array for drawing cargo-colours. Change Food 00:37:10 <CIA-1> colour to pink everywhere (fixes FS#303) 00:41:30 <CIA-1> Darkvater * r7445 /trunk/station_gui.c: 00:41:30 <CIA-1> -Codechange (r4822): Properly draw the cargo colours in the station list and centre the 00:41:30 <CIA-1> cargo abbreviations. The window at least looks a lot better this way. 00:43:17 *** fusee [fusion@cpe-76-174-15-199.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 00:45:37 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [~johekr@p54B775D9.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 00:46:21 <CIA-1> Darkvater * r7446 /trunk/station_gui.c: 00:46:21 <CIA-1> -Feature: Double the length of the cargo and rating indicators in the station list window, 00:46:21 <CIA-1> thanks for the inspiration Rince. Workings of the small 1-pixel wide bar have changed a 00:46:21 <CIA-1> little. Up till now it was pretty random, now it is only drawn for stations with minimal 00:46:21 <CIA-1> amount of cargo (<=30) and 1-pixel height is 5 units. 00:46:42 <Darkvater> I think it's about sleepy-time... 00:47:03 <jotham> does a dedicated server have advantages over running a copy of openttd in xwindows as the server? 00:47:10 <jotham> i mean apart from it being able to run headless 00:48:12 <glx> it doesn't have to really do the drawings (though it does it internally in a "very small" window) 00:50:03 *** fusey [fusion@cpe-76-174-15-199.socal.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:50:03 *** fusee is now known as fusey 00:52:06 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B75C26.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:58:34 *** PandaMojo_ [~chatzilla@ip72-197-231-130.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #openttd 01:03:36 *** PandaMojo [~chatzilla@ip72-197-231-130.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:03:48 *** PandaMojo_ is now known as PandaMojo 01:07:28 *** Digitalfox [~digitalfo@bl8-40-243.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [] 01:07:56 *** mikl_ [~mikl@0x55514de1.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 01:15:23 *** silent [~pwr@86.121.147.90] has quit [Quit: Client exiting] 01:24:35 <jotham_> does the dedicated server auto-magically pause when no players are on? 01:25:20 <glx> it does in nightlies (I'm not sure for 0.4.8) 01:25:49 <jotham_> cool 01:29:43 *** Osai^2 [~Osai@p54B3F226.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Osai^2] 01:34:40 *** Belugas_Gone is now known as Belugas 01:39:13 *** Tobin [~Tobin@c58-107-61-130.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Quit: Tobin] 01:53:04 *** Sacro [Ben@adsl-83-100-150-214.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:59:42 *** mikl_ [~mikl@0x55514de1.adsl.cybercity.dk] has quit [Quit: In the end, all that matters is your relation with God...] 02:09:07 *** Dr_Jekyll [Dr_Jekyll@pD9E958A2.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:17:20 <jotham_> is there anything i can do increase performance on a slower computer? 02:17:59 <glx> set desktop to 8bit, disable animation 02:18:23 <glx> play fullscreen can help too 03:01:11 *** Netsplit helium.oftc.net <-> nobelium.oftc.net quits: HMage, PandaMojo, Frostregen, +michi_cc, KUDr, Zuu, mikl, Zavior 03:01:18 *** Netsplit over, joins: PandaMojo, Zuu, KUDr, Frostregen, HMage, mikl, Zavior, +michi_cc 03:29:36 *** Belugas is now known as Belugas_Gone 03:36:53 *** ^pwnflakes [~gaben@CPE-138-217-100-203.vic.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 03:37:46 *** ^pwnflakes [~gaben@CPE-138-217-100-203.vic.bigpond.net.au] has left #openttd [] 03:59:35 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: bye] 04:30:02 *** Gonozal_VIII [~Gono@N930P000.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:30:40 *** Gonozal_VIII [~Gono@N914P011.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #openttd 05:06:56 <jotham> the server i set up keeps booting one of my clients off with this error 05:07:15 <jotham> dbg: [NET] jotham reported an error and is closing his connection (desync error) 05:07:18 <jotham> *** jotham has left the game (desync error) 05:29:31 <Eddi|zuHause2> desync errors have usually two kinds of reasons, 1) different newgrfs, 2) bugs in the code 05:31:11 <Eddi|zuHause2> the 1st kind should have been dealt with in the nightlies, with the newgrf saveload code 05:32:00 <Eddi|zuHause2> the 2nd kind, you might help to solve if you find a reproducable case, preferably with savegame 05:32:35 <Eddi|zuHause2> you might try saving and reloading the server, this usually fixes the 2nd kind desyncs for a while 05:34:05 <jotham> cheers 05:41:31 <jotham> my friend doesn't get disconnected, just me 05:42:24 <Eddi|zuHause2> then find out what you have different than him 05:42:51 <jotham> well, we are all using the same version, the server is running on another machine on my lan - he is at his house on the other side of the city, and i amc onnecting from my laptop to play 05:43:29 <Eddi|zuHause2> like... OS, self compiled, openttd.cfg, that kind of difference 05:48:54 *** ThePizzaKing_ [~jeff@c211-28-167-179.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 05:56:04 *** ThePizzaKing [~jeff@c211-28-167-179.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:04:32 *** Danny [~Danny.Ale@138.217.252.154] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:31:56 *** DaleStan_ [~Dale@74.140.121.53] has joined #openttd 06:32:36 *** clemux [~clemux@lns-bzn-47f-81-56-237-44.adsl.proxad.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:35:31 *** DaleStan [~Dale@74.140.121.53] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:38:40 *** DaleStan_ is now known as DaleStan 06:57:28 <CIA-1> miham * r7447 /trunk/lang/ (brazilian_portuguese.txt catalan.txt): 06:57:28 <CIA-1> WebTranslator2 update to 2006-12-09 07:56:50 06:57:28 <CIA-1> brazilian_portuguese - 8 fixed by tucalipe (8) 06:57:28 <CIA-1> catalan - 159 changed by arnaullv (159) 06:58:08 *** Danny [~Danny.Ale@CPE-138-217-252-154.wa.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 07:07:58 *** ThePizzaKing_ is now known as ThePizzaKing 07:21:49 *** bulio| [~bulio@bas6-montrealak-1177580768.dsl.bell.ca] has quit [] 07:55:33 *** YogSothoth_ [~john@lns-bzn-56-82-255-241-123.adsl.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 08:15:50 *** Osai [~Osai@p54B3F226.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 08:37:28 <CIA-1> rubidium * r7448 /trunk/vehicle.c: -Fix (r5794): use the height of the edge of the map for effect vehicles that are outside the map. 08:40:19 *** fusee [fusion@cpe-76-174-15-199.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 08:47:48 *** fusey [fusion@cpe-76-174-15-199.socal.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:47:48 *** fusee is now known as fusey 09:04:26 *** Tron [~tron@p54A3F591.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 09:05:29 *** Purno [~Purno@5351CCC8.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 09:19:55 *** DJ_Mirage [~sexybigge@biggetje.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 09:37:05 *** Maedhros [~jc@host86-140-196-226.range86-140.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 09:37:30 <Maedhros> morning 09:38:27 *** silent [~pwr@86.121.148.71] has joined #openttd 09:38:36 *** Frostregen [SADDAM@dslb-084-058-189-064.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:38:47 *** Frostregen [SADDAM@dslb-084-058-189-064.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 09:42:06 <peter1138> hello 09:42:07 *** Zavior [~Zavior@d195-237-7-155.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:42:22 *** Zavior [~Zavior@d195-237-7-155.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 09:45:16 <Maedhros> hi peter1138 09:45:36 <Maedhros> nice work with the newhouses branch :) 09:45:58 <peter1138> "maybe allowing the addition of new cargos, industries, etc. could be something to put in the next OTTD nightly build" 09:46:01 <peter1138> lol 09:46:25 <Maedhros> haha 09:46:39 <Rubidium> so, we have to delay the nightly build till that :) 09:46:47 <peter1138> seems like it 09:47:10 <peter1138> actually newcargos is pretty much finished 09:47:30 <peter1138> alas, i'm waiting for post 0.5 to do anything with it 09:48:04 <ln-> wait an additional year also 09:48:13 <peter1138> ok 09:48:23 <peter1138> there you go guys 09:48:33 <peter1138> official reason for newcargos delay: ln- said so 09:57:34 <Darkvater> mornin 09:58:04 <peter1138> hello 09:58:47 <Darkvater> I just realized during sleep: :p 09:59:08 <peter1138> hm? 09:59:12 <Darkvater> the cargo filter for stations is really kinda uselesswith nrewcargos 09:59:18 <peter1138> oh 09:59:20 <peter1138> yes :) 09:59:48 <Darkvater> :O 10:00:14 <Darkvater> bittorrent is going to buy utorrent 10:00:53 <peter1138> yeah 10:01:09 <peter1138> never used it heh 10:01:10 <Darkvater> I think ludde got bored and cashes in ;) 10:01:28 <Darkvater> it's awesome...I use it inlunx as well 10:01:41 <Darkvater> hate that resource-hogging azureus crap 10:02:18 <Darkvater> http://forum.utorrent.com/viewtopic.php?id=17278 10:03:33 *** PandaMojo_ [~chatzilla@ip72-197-231-130.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #openttd 10:05:51 *** HMage [~HMage@85.21.179.37] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:08:26 <Darkvater> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=528094#528094 10:08:46 *** KUDr [KUDr@mazanec1.netbox.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:09:00 <Darkvater> immediately my master, wait let me remove the lock on newindustries... 10:09:03 <Darkvater> idiot 10:09:36 *** PandaMojo [~chatzilla@ip72-197-231-130.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:11:15 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1FC8D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 10:11:36 *** Alltaken [~chatzilla@203-97-223-241.cable.telstraclear.net] has joined #openttd 10:16:58 <peter1138> as i said above... 10:17:35 *** lolman [~john@cpc3-leds2-0-0-cust55.leed.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 10:20:23 <peter1138> "Instead of being greedy you should have open-sourced your program." 10:20:24 <peter1138> lol 10:20:34 <Darkvater> utorrent? 10:20:38 <peter1138> yeah 10:20:49 <Darkvater> :) 10:21:26 *** mikl [~mikl@87.48.236.122] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:21:51 *** mikl [~mikl@tbv.faderhuset.org] has joined #openttd 10:22:13 *** Zuu [~leif@c-383c71d5.025-58-6e6b702.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:22:25 *** Zuu [~leif@c-383c71d5.025-58-6e6b702.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #openttd 10:22:57 *** nairan [~Maui_key@p5498F9DF.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:23:22 *** KUDr [KUDr@mazanec1.netbox.cz] has joined #openttd 10:23:50 *** nairan [~Maui_key@p5498D3C4.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 10:28:55 *** pecisk [~pecisk@purvc-44-54.maksinets.lv] has joined #openttd 10:45:07 *** Hadez [~chatzilla@151.244.broadband7.iol.cz] has joined #openttd 10:45:20 <lolman> Morning :) 10:45:33 <Hadez> G'morn. 10:45:48 <lolman> Morning Hadez :) 10:46:03 <Hadez> You too, lolman :-) 10:46:51 <lolman> Need a reboot, brb :) 10:46:55 *** lolman [~john@cpc3-leds2-0-0-cust55.leed.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:48:01 *** Alltaken [~chatzilla@203-97-223-241.cable.telstraclear.net] has quit [Quit: Chatzilla 0.9.77 [Firefox 2.0/2006101023]] 10:52:01 *** Osai [~Osai@p54B3F226.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Osai] 10:56:22 <CIA-1> Darkvater * r7449 /trunk/ (17 files): 10:56:22 <CIA-1> -Codechange: Rename _path to _paths as it is technically more correct, but mainly because 10:56:22 <CIA-1> it interferes with OS/2 symbol in libc (psmedley) 10:57:14 <CIA-1> Darkvater * r7450 /trunk/vehicle_gui.c: -Codechange: Remove dead code, caption is set in the next switch block of vehicle list for all cases (Tron) 11:03:26 *** Sacro [~ben@adsl-83-100-150-214.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 11:05:09 *** Osai [~Osai@p54B3F226.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 11:06:01 *** Belugas_Gone [~Jfranc@216.191.111.226] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:06:38 *** Belugas_Gone [~Jfranc@216.191.111.226] has joined #openttd 11:06:41 *** mode/#openttd [+o Belugas_Gone] by ChanServ 11:09:10 <ln-> Darkvater: isn't it about time to dump those variable names beginning with an underscore? 11:09:28 <Darkvater> nop 11:10:34 <ln-> elaborate 11:10:46 <Darkvater> it is not time to do so 11:11:19 <LadyHawk> how exactly is the money from transfer trains generated? 11:11:31 <LadyHawk> station A - transfer station B - delivery station C 11:11:50 <LadyHawk> A-B train shows it gets money but doesnt get anything, B-C gets the actual money but what does it show? 11:12:09 <LadyHawk> what that train makes, or the total, that train + what A-B made? 11:12:30 *** Hadez [~chatzilla@151.244.broadband7.iol.cz] has quit [Quit: Chatzilla 0.9.77 [Firefox 2.0/0000000000]] 11:13:23 <LadyHawk> does it show the total and get the total, or show just what the B-C train makes and get the total? 11:14:52 <jotham_> i have 2 cities (24k people each) and they don't seem to ever get any passangers in the stations i have built 11:15:46 <Sacro> LadyHawk: just what that train makes 11:15:57 <Sacro> the a-b money disappears into the ether 11:16:25 <LadyHawk> so what does that mean 11:16:39 <LadyHawk> the b-c train gets his own money but never the money from the a-b trip? 11:16:47 <Sacro> yep 11:17:50 <LadyHawk> hmm then why was the transfer function built in the first place? seeing a train with profit keeps the game from whining.. but if it has no purpose in the rest of the transit.. why's it there? 11:18:40 <Sacro> *shrugs* 11:20:49 <LadyHawk> my logic says because the distance+speed travelled from A-B is lost, using transit in any form makes less profit 11:21:31 <LadyHawk> i thought the transit profit was saved until the goods are actually delivered :p 11:21:36 <LadyHawk> would solve that problem 11:21:59 <Mikachu> maybe the b-c train shows the profit from the b-c delivery, but the money you actually get is a-c? 11:22:04 <Maedhros> using transfer orders also means that if the station accepts that type of goods it won't be sold there but just added to the station 11:22:31 <Mikachu> but i think the b-c delivery shows the a-c money, i remember checking 11:23:14 <Sacro> Mikachu: nope 11:23:27 <Sacro> the goods source gets reset whenever it gets dropped at a station 11:23:48 <Mikachu> if you check the train cargo info it says "30 tons of whatever from A" 11:23:58 <Mikachu> not "from B" 11:24:01 <Sacro> mm.... thats true 11:24:15 <Sacro> but afaik, it only calculates it from the last station 11:24:30 <Brianetta> Feeders suck. 11:24:39 <Brianetta> unless you feed everything a tiny distance from source only 11:25:10 <Mikachu> that cargo packets thing or whatever it's called, is it still in progress? 11:25:24 <Brianetta> Somewhat. 11:25:25 <LadyHawk> sacro is right.. the money the A-B shows it gets.. it really is lost forever, you never receive it 11:25:47 <LadyHawk> just checked with 2 trains 3 stations with 4 tiles in between each 11:26:04 <Brianetta> LadyHawk: This isn't news. 11:26:12 <LadyHawk> A-B shows it gets about 400, B-C gets 400, the other is lost 11:26:19 <Sacro> Mikachu: nope, i was looking into it... but nobodys worked on it for ages 11:26:30 <Brianetta> The only feeder systems that are useless are A-B -> B-Z 11:26:47 <Brianetta> A-Y -> Y-Z is useless 11:26:54 <Brianetta> since it's th elast stage you make money on 11:26:58 <Sacro> yup 11:27:06 <Mikachu> you mean "aren't"? 11:27:14 <Brianetta> yes 11:27:14 *** lolman [~john@cpc3-leds2-0-0-cust55.leed.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 11:27:18 <LadyHawk> would be hard to code saving the A-B trip info somehow wouldnt it? 11:27:18 <Sacro> oh noes 11:27:29 <LadyHawk> too much to save 11:27:32 <Brianetta> LadyHawk: That code is called transfer code 11:27:36 <Brianetta> It's buggy as heck 11:27:40 <lolman> Sacro, I cocked up ndiswrapper a few minutes ago...just had to hook a cable up again 11:27:48 <lolman> Just sorted it out :) 11:27:57 <Sacro> lolman: heh... im in arch now, upgrading to kernel26beyond 11:28:13 <lolman> Sacro, I'm not gonna risk fecking up ndiswrapper again :P 11:28:26 <Brianetta> OK, LUG meeting here I come 11:28:36 <lolman> Brianetta, enjoy! :) 11:28:49 <LadyHawk> but in the end Brianetta, it's not the code that matters, it's what the code DOES that matters.. you say it's buggy, but for the players they might think it was coded this way, therefor works perfectly ;) 11:28:50 <Brianetta> I will 11:28:57 <Sacro> Brianetta: hehe, i went to Hull for the first time on tuesday 11:29:10 <Brianetta> I founde dthois LUG 11:29:10 <lolman> Sacro, it's a dump isn't it? 11:29:16 <Brianetta> er 11:29:19 <Brianetta> I founded this LUG 11:29:22 <Sacro> hmm... and beverleys is on christmas eve 11:29:25 <Sacro> Brianetta: cool 11:29:49 <Brianetta> bbl 11:32:48 *** ThePizzaKing [~jeff@c211-28-167-179.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 11:33:50 <LadyHawk> is the transfer code in the actual released version of the game? or just in the nightlys/whatever other versions there are 11:34:08 <LadyHawk> if so.. why did that get to stay if the coders classify it was 'buggy' and PBS had to be removed? :p 11:35:09 * lolman installs Opera 11:35:47 <Noldo> LadyHawk: nobody cares 11:35:50 <LadyHawk> anyways, bbl, if theres any replies to what i said just.. i will see it 11:35:55 <LadyHawk> i kinda do cuz i loved PBS :P 11:35:58 <LadyHawk> afk 11:37:15 <Sacro> LadyHawk: no build has the transfer code 11:37:24 <Sacro> brb, kernel chance 11:37:27 <Sacro> *change 11:37:32 *** Sacro [~ben@adsl-83-100-150-214.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:42:36 *** Neonox [~Neonox@offb-590ebda5.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #openttd 11:43:48 *** Sacro [~Ben@adsl-83-100-150-214.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 11:44:30 <lolman> Oh noes 11:44:43 <Sacro> hmm... this isnt linux 11:44:55 <lolman> Wrong boot option? 11:45:00 <Sacro> oh wells... lets go play games 11:45:04 <lolman> lmao 11:45:12 <lolman> You booted Windows? 11:45:15 <Sacro> hmm... GTL, GTA:SA 11:45:21 <Sacro> FSX X3... 11:45:30 *** BJH2 [~chatzilla@e176112020.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 11:45:30 <Sacro> ooh defcon 11:45:38 <lolman> Oooh Defcon :P 11:46:19 <Sacro> hmm, north vs south america 11:46:21 <Sacro> should be fun 11:48:45 <Sacro> right, fleets out 11:48:54 <Sacro> engage defcon 3 mr sulu 11:50:11 <lolman> hehe 11:51:39 <lolman> Still no Linux client =( 11:54:29 <Darkvater> hmm 11:54:34 <Darkvater> what shall we do about http://bugs.openttd.org/task/265 ? 11:55:10 <Darkvater> The subsidy is not awarded because the station's XY coordinate is too far from that of the town's XY (eg in this case distance is 10 while max distance is 9) 11:55:50 <lolman> Do it by the authority the station is under? 11:56:32 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host212-235-dynamic.5-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 11:56:36 <Wolf01> ello 11:56:44 <lolman> Ello :) 11:56:44 <Darkvater> no distance is hardcoded to max 9 11:56:59 <lolman> Darkvater, ah 11:57:34 *** stillunknown [~madman200@82-168-177-167.dsl.ip.tiscali.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:58:00 <lolman> 9 from town's centre or the edge? 11:58:05 *** Zavior [~Zavior@d195-237-7-155.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Quit: ( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.02 :: www.XLhost.de )] 11:58:31 <Darkvater> centre 11:58:36 <Darkvater> eg from town-sign to station-sign 11:58:58 <lolman> Hmm, I'm not gonna pretend to know how to sort it lol 12:00:04 *** Rens2Sea [~Rens2Sea@213.211.185.168] has joined #openttd 12:00:18 <jotham_> so is there some bug with stations and cities over 25k? 12:00:35 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@snat2.arachne.cz] has joined #openttd 12:00:52 <Darkvater> what bug? 12:01:07 <Darkvater> I'm just saying that is how it is calculated for subsidies and if that should be changed and if any how 12:01:13 <Sacro> well i lost 12:01:23 <lolman> Sacro, heh 12:01:46 <Sacro> i was screwed when i lost my navy 12:01:55 <lolman> Ack 12:01:57 <Sacro> totally nuked to shreds from the atlantic 12:02:54 *** Zavior [~Zavior@d195-237-7-155.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 12:03:23 *** MeusH [~MeusH@host-ip18-138.crowley.pl] has joined #openttd 12:03:30 <MeusH> hi 12:04:07 <lolman> MeusH, ello 12:04:09 <Darkvater> http://thepiratebay.org/details.php?id=3562765&fl#show << lol 12:04:17 <Darkvater> piratebay download of openttd 12:04:25 <jotham_> i have a city of 26k and i built an 8 length station in it, near the center, after bribing and bulldozing the space to do it - but no passangers will queue up at it - even though i have an 'outstanding' rating with the city - this has also happend at another 26k pop city in another part of the map 12:04:26 <MeusH> hi lolman 12:04:30 <jotham_> i wondered if it was some kind of bug 12:04:34 <MeusH> nice one DV :D 12:04:42 <Darkvater> not only is it 0.4.0.1 but it also includes 'imperial casino' and as an added bonus 'tournament poker'! 12:05:52 <Sacro> Darkvater: yeah, nice bundle 12:06:13 <Darkvater> hmm what's the ttdp shortcut for fast forward? 12:06:52 <Sacro> tab? 12:06:56 <Darkvater> ttdpatch 12:07:14 <Sacro> ARGH THE PIRATE BAY SENDS YOUR PASSWORD AND USERNAME OVER E-MAIL >< 12:08:51 <Maedhros> Darkvater: w, i think 12:09:05 <Mikachu> oh no did you use a super secret password for tpb? 12:09:16 <roboboy^> E speeds it up 12:09:33 <roboboy^> Q slows it down and W sets it back to normall 12:09:36 <Darkvater> hmm I think I need some ttdpatch flag activated :s 12:09:59 *** ChrisM87 [~ChrisM@p54AC56EA.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 12:09:59 <roboboy^> http://wiki.ttdpatch.net/tiki-index.php?page=GameSpeed 12:10:30 <Darkvater> .. 12:10:31 <Darkvater> thx 12:12:13 *** Osai [~Osai@p54B3F226.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Osai] 12:12:50 <lolman> What's the british locale? en_GB? 12:13:06 <Maedhros> yup 12:13:13 <lolman> Hmm 12:13:22 *** MeusH [~MeusH@host-ip18-138.crowley.pl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:13:25 <lolman> I'm getting locale errors with it 12:13:37 * lolman reboots 12:13:42 *** lolman [~john@cpc3-leds2-0-0-cust55.leed.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:14:33 <Darkvater> hmm 12:14:58 <Darkvater> gamespeed on 12:15:01 <Darkvater> doesn't do squat 12:15:47 <Sacro> YAY someone is streaming red dwarf on shoutcast tv 12:16:00 *** stillunknown [~madman200@82-168-177-167.dsl.ip.tiscali.nl] has joined #openttd 12:16:52 <roboboy^> dv have you got the new hotkeys on 12:17:07 <Darkvater> morehotkeys on 12:17:10 <Darkvater> it already was 12:17:24 <roboboy^> ok 12:25:16 *** lolman [~john@cpc3-leds2-0-0-cust55.leed.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 12:25:21 <lolman> this figures 12:25:27 <lolman> gdm's just stopped working 12:26:01 <Darkvater> hmm 12:26:16 <Darkvater> DaleStan: do you perhaps know by any chance how TTDP handles subsidies? 12:26:31 <lolman> black screen + busy cursor is all I get 12:26:36 <lolman> :-\ 12:27:29 <Darkvater> DaleStan: OpenTTD doesn't award subsidy if station->xy and town->xy (for passangers) is more than 10 tiles apart. It's been like that since rev1. Or has TTDP changed behaviour? 12:28:47 *** helb [~helb@84.244.90.159] has joined #openttd 12:30:33 *** Gonozal_VIII [~Gono@N914P011.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:31:58 *** lolman [~john@cpc3-leds2-0-0-cust55.leed.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 12:34:08 *** Gonozal_VIII [~Gono@N894P027.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #openttd 12:40:00 *** lolman [~john@cpc3-leds2-0-0-cust55.leed.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 12:43:09 <Rubidium> Darkvater: Get(Industry|Town) can return 'invalid' industries/towns which is used by GetRandom(Industry|Town), which is used to create subsidies; thus creating subsidies for non-existing towns/industries. What do you think of http://rubidium.student.utwente.nl/openttd/fix_get_random.diff ? 12:44:44 <Darkvater> Rubidium: 'invalid'? 12:44:51 *** Hendikins [~wolfox@ppp648.adelaide.on.net.au] has joined #openttd 12:45:02 <Rubidium> ->xy == 0 12:46:19 <Darkvater> truelight fixed that 12:46:28 <Rubidium> which happens when you destroy towns/industries 12:46:55 <Rubidium> it wasn't fixed for GetRandom(Industry|Town) 12:48:16 <Darkvater> has isvalidtown/isvalidindustry ever crashed? 12:48:49 <Mikachu> hm, are there no electric trains for normal rails in toy land? 12:48:56 <Mikachu> i went straight from diesel to monorail 12:49:18 <Rubidium> not that I'm aware of, but because of the testing for GetIndustry(index) == NULL I assumed it could happen that IsValidTown gets given a NULL 12:50:01 *** DoZzzZzzy [~dos@cwoerlee.demon.nl] has joined #openttd 12:50:08 *** DoZzzZzzy is now known as Dozzy 12:50:24 <Darkvater> Rubidium: I think that would be a bug and therefore either asserted or left alone 12:50:52 <Dozzy> From what does the dedicated server decides how the new generated maps looks like? 12:51:48 <Rubidium> hmm, looking at the GetRandom(Industry|Town) functions, I see no reason to have the num variable and loop, as for the first loop it already finds a industry (iterates over the whole pool) 12:56:21 <Rubidium> ah, num does make sense as it searches for the 'num'th industry/town in the pool, making it work nicer with a pool where a lot of subsequent industries/towns are removed 12:57:03 <Rubidium> anyway, I've updated the patch (removed the != NULL comparisons in IsValid(Industry|Town)) 12:58:51 * Hendikins has been playing around with the mini integrated nightly branch over the last few days. Great time sink that is... 12:59:15 <Darkvater> Rubidium: hmm but what do you say about 2 lines further bwlo? 12:59:19 <Darkvater> if (index > GetMaxTownIndex()) index = 0; 12:59:52 <Rubidium> then it starts looping at the beginning of the array (again), nothing wrong with that I guess 13:00:19 <Darkvater> yes but doesn't the index<gettownpoolsize make sure that never happens? 13:00:35 *** Ailure is now known as Ailure[AFK] 13:00:37 *** Neonox [~Neonox@offb-590ebda5.pool.einsundeins.de] has quit [Quit: bin wech....] 13:02:00 <Rubidium> how would index < gettownpoolsize (assert?) make the function start at 0 if it reaches the end of the pool? 13:03:07 <Darkvater> no I mean with that additional check there you never reset to index=0 since all towns are valid 13:03:25 <roboboy^> gnight 13:03:30 * roboboy^ folds out the bed and locks it into position. 13:03:37 *** roboboy^ is now known as robobed^ 13:03:40 <lolman> robobed^: night 13:04:19 <Rubidium> Darkvater: why would all towns be valid? 13:04:38 <Rubidium> if I'm not mistaken you can remove them in the scenario editor 13:05:24 <Darkvater> isvalidtownid() filters out all invalid towns from the list, both with xy=0 and >max 13:06:16 <Darkvater> hmm anyways, that loop is kinda weird, but it just restarts from the beginning 13:06:20 <Rubidium> yes, but the if (index > GetMaxTownIndex()) is done when the town is invalid 13:06:27 <Darkvater> do we want it restarting from the beginning? 13:07:07 <Rubidium> hmm, that should (probably) never happen 13:10:29 *** Digitalfox [~digitalfo@bl8-40-243.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #openttd 13:10:47 <Digitalfox> Hi everybody.. :) 13:11:01 <lolman> Digitalfox: ello :) 13:11:52 <Darkvater> Rubidium: I think if you look into that to sort it out you can commit it with the isvalidXX 13:12:19 <Digitalfox> Well i want to start building my own nighty windows compiles.. I use TortoiseSVN to keep up to date to changes and bugfixes, and now i wanted to kwon what software i would need to compile nighty windows.. 13:13:16 <lolman> MSVC 2005 would be best (I would assume) 13:13:18 <Darkvater> Digitalfox: have a look at the wiki :) 13:13:21 <Digitalfox> Would visual studio 2005 compile windows nightly? 13:13:26 <lolman> ^Do that 13:13:30 <Digitalfox> ok 13:13:37 <lolman> Teh Wiki knows more 13:13:43 <Digitalfox> i'm asking because i have visual studio 2005~ 13:15:24 <Digitalfox> what compiler does compile farm use to make the nightlys?? 13:15:51 <Rubidium> GCC 4.1.1 13:16:32 <Digitalfox> what would be better for my compiles GCC 4.1.1 or VS2005 ? 13:17:17 <Rubidium> it's quite a job to get GCC 4.1.1 for MinGW 13:17:25 <Digitalfox> ok 13:17:35 <Digitalfox> So i will try vs2005 13:18:20 <Rubidium> those GetRandom(Industry|Town) functions are quite strange constructions 13:18:30 <Mikachu> msvc is expensiver 13:20:04 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 13:20:06 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 13:22:41 *** Zuu_ [~leif@c-383c71d5.025-58-6e6b702.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #openttd 13:22:52 <Digitalfox> could someone point me out to a tutorial for building with VS?? In wiki i only found toturial for Cygwin and MinGW 13:23:43 <glx> there is one for VS on wiki too 13:24:20 <Darkvater> Mikachu: it's free (express edition) and a lot faster cause cygwin is dead slow 13:24:23 <Digitalfox> only found a link to m$ homepage~ 13:24:31 *** Zuu [~leif@c-383c71d5.025-58-6e6b702.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:24:32 <Mikachu> i see 13:24:59 <Digitalfox> http://wiki.openttd.org/index.php/Development:Main_Page in this page 13:26:03 <glx> http://wiki.openttd.org/index.php/MicrosoftVisualCExpress 13:26:14 <Digitalfox> ah ok 13:26:22 <Digitalfox> thanks glx, my bad 13:26:30 <Digitalfox> giving it a shot 13:33:23 <Hendikins> Anyone up for a bit of mp? 13:38:47 *** HMage [~HMage@85.21.179.37] has joined #openttd 13:41:53 *** lolman_ [~John@cpc3-leds2-0-0-cust55.leed.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 13:42:05 * lolman_ yells "DAMN YOU GDM!!!!" 13:44:13 <Rubidium> Darkvater: http://rubidium.student.utwente.nl/openttd/fix_get_random.diff and yes, it's getting bigger than I hoped for. 13:44:32 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B84137.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 13:44:32 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 13:44:50 *** Tobin [~Tobin@c58-107-61-130.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 13:45:42 <Darkvater> Rubidium: INVALID_INDUSTRY 13:45:50 <Rubidium> that patch is really becoming a whole list of fixes :( 13:46:31 <Darkvater> no I mean use invalid_ instead of -1 13:47:05 <Darkvater> I don't know wha tyou are doing in there, removing total_towns, industries etc. 13:47:53 *** Sionide [~sphinx@plainparakeet2.hornet.uea.ac.uk] has joined #openttd 13:48:10 <Rubidium> no; if you remove a town/industry, the number of towns/industries was not updated 13:48:29 <Darkvater> and now it is becaused you removed the decrementer? 13:49:28 <Rubidium> huh, I did not remove the _total_towns decrementer, I added it 13:49:57 <Darkvater> o_O 13:50:00 * Darkvater is blind 13:50:20 <lolman> Sacro: ping? 13:50:34 <Sacro> lolman: pong 13:50:46 <Rubidium> anyway, Max(Industry|Town)Index should not be related to Num(Industries|Towns) 13:50:55 <lolman> my gdm config has disappeared :o 13:51:09 <lolman> reinstalling gdm has no effect at all 13:51:10 <lolman> :-\ 13:51:27 <Sacro> /etc/conf/gdm/default.conf ? 13:51:34 <Sacro> or is it /opt/gnome/share/conf/ 13:51:38 <Darkvater> Rubidium: do we even need that global counter? Don't we have a function for counting #of industries? 13:51:38 <lolman> all the sections are empty :-\ 13:51:39 <Rubidium> and the while had to be rewritten so it does at least one iteration to make sure the industry is valid, in case of an invalid industry at index 0 13:54:02 <Rubidium> I guess it isn't needed, but I'm not aware of a function that counts industries 13:55:43 <Rubidium> we have a GetNumIndustries function, but that returns _total_industries 13:55:43 *** robobed^ [~Leo@c211-30-116-5.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:55:52 <Sacro> lolman: errm... open the /var/cache/pacman/pkg/gdm-*, and extract the conf from it 13:56:24 <Rubidium> which is only used once outside industry.h 13:56:35 <Darkvater> he 13:56:55 <lolman> Sacro: okies 13:56:56 <Rubidium> industry_gui.c: if (GetNumIndustries() == 0) return; 13:57:04 <Darkvater> I don't get some changes 13:57:08 <Darkvater> - return _total_towns - 1; 13:57:09 <Darkvater> + return GetTownPoolSize() - 1; 13:57:29 <Darkvater> so does it return #of towns - 1 or max-towns - 1? 13:58:35 <Rubidium> _total_towns was the highest TownID + 1, but I've changed it to the number of towns. 13:59:03 *** lolman_ [~John@cpc3-leds2-0-0-cust55.leed.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:59:29 <lolman> Sacro: no such luck 13:59:36 <lolman> :( 13:59:56 <Rubidium> otherwise RandomRange(GetNumTowns()); in GetRandomTown would iterate up to 'highest TownID', which in case of some removed towns (# of towns < highest TownID + 1) would result in needing the if (index > GetMaxTownIndex()) index = 0; 14:00:51 <Naksu> btw 14:01:08 <Rubidium> basically it was GetMaxTownIndex() == GetNumTowns() even _if_ towns were removed and the same holds for industries 14:01:13 <Naksu> the whoworksonwhat page seems quite outdated 14:02:20 <lolman> I might have to go down the chinese buffet...let my mind relax a bit :P 14:02:45 <Darkvater> Rubidium: hmm, well donnu; this whole pool thing confuses me and has quite some todo's and 'will be removed', etc. Just pick one that works best 14:04:39 <Sacro> lolman: hmm 14:04:49 <Sacro> actually, are you looking in the right config? 14:05:36 <Sacro> lolman: /opt/gnome/share/gdm/defaults.conf 14:06:01 <lolman> Sacro: yeah 14:07:11 *** Digitalfox [~digitalfo@bl8-40-243.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:11:54 *** Tron [~tron@p54A3F591.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Client exiting] 14:12:57 *** pecisk [~pecisk@purvc-44-54.maksinets.lv] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:13:05 <lolman> This figures...still not working 14:13:13 <Sacro> right, fraid i have to go out :( 14:13:26 <lolman> Why are you afraid? 14:13:42 <Sacro> cos its cold 14:13:46 <Sacro> and i need money and petrol 14:13:48 <Sacro> back later 14:14:01 <lolman> Ah okies 14:14:02 <lolman> Cya :) 14:15:00 <CIA-1> rubidium * r7451 /trunk/ (industry.h industry_cmd.c town.h town_cmd.c): 14:15:00 <CIA-1> -Fix (7372): GetNum(Towns|Industries) should return the actual number of towns and industries. 14:15:00 <CIA-1> -Fix (6055): GetMax(Town|Industry)Index should not return the number of towns or industries - 1, but the size of the pool - 1. 14:18:28 <CIA-1> rubidium * r7452 /trunk/ (industry.h town.h): -Fix: GetRandom(Industry|Town) must return a valid industry/town and should not need to loop over the pool for a second time. 14:25:00 *** Mucht_ [~Mucht@p57A0CFB3.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 14:27:23 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@80-41-5-199.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #openttd 14:32:11 *** DaleStan [~Dale@74.140.121.53] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:33:34 <CIA-1> maedhros * r7453 /branches/newhouses/newgrf_house.c: [NewHouses] -Fix (r6540): Use the class id instead of the house id when you want to check the number of buildings in a certain class... 14:34:54 <Maedhros> so now you only get one water tower per town with ttrs3. yay! 14:39:40 <Darkvater> Rubidium: about openttd.rs...you're right perhaps we can add a special keyword that gives the last checked-out value...With that we can remove the whole rev.c hack :) 14:39:48 <Darkvater> I'll have a look into it given enough time soon 14:43:01 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@80-41-5-199.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:45:45 <Darkvater> Maedhros: \o/ 14:45:57 *** Mucht [~Mucht@p57A0CFB3.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 14:46:06 *** lolman [~john@cpc3-leds2-0-0-cust55.leed.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 14:46:32 <Darkvater> Rubidium: why did you make the fix? Inspired by http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?t=28869&highlight= ? 14:48:34 *** pecisk [~pecisk@purvc-44-54.maksinets.lv] has joined #openttd 14:49:02 <Rubidium> Darkvater: the fix is inspired on that topic yes. 14:49:51 <Darkvater> Rubidium: thought so :) if I have it right this guys's problem is unfixable but shouldn't happen anymore, right? 14:49:52 <Rubidium> about ottdres.rc: I don't know of a svn keyword that uses the 'correct' revision, i.e. the last modified revision of the directory the file is in 14:50:01 <Rubidium> yes 14:50:23 <Darkvater> I couldn't find one before..but perhaps adding a custom one and letting svn add it or something..will need to look into it 14:51:51 *** scia [~scia@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 14:53:08 <Rubidium> Darkvater: with make it can be solved in the same manner as rev.c is done, but for MSVC you probably need to write some kind of hook that uses SVN and if SVN is not available, it uses norev000 14:53:45 <Darkvater> I had some script for doing that but it was butt-ugly 14:53:54 <Darkvater> so unnless I cannot let SVN do it, I'll just leave it alone 14:55:01 <Darkvater> hmm...but how would one handle local modifications..only svnversion can do that 14:55:02 <Darkvater> bleh 14:55:27 <peter1138> solution: drop windows support 14:55:45 <Mikachu> if you make changes locally, you should know what you're doing 14:55:49 <Rubidium> just drop MSVC support :) 14:55:50 <Darkvater> yeah we should ;p 14:56:01 <Darkvater> Mikachu: that's not the problem 14:56:10 <Darkvater> peter1138: did you see the turkish table/unicode stuff? Is that ok? 14:56:20 <peter1138> hmm? 14:56:49 <Darkvater> hmm, you didn't get a mail? 14:57:32 <peter1138> fs 421? 14:57:46 <Darkvater> yes 14:57:55 <peter1138> well, i did that originally anyway 14:58:05 <Darkvater> but it's not in svn? 14:58:08 <peter1138> but you didn't want us to do that 14:59:28 <Darkvater> I didn't? 14:59:36 <peter1138> nope 14:59:44 <Darkvater> why? I forgot ;p 15:00:08 <peter1138> something about having to end up doing it for everyone and freetype and stuff 15:00:17 <Darkvater> ah that 15:00:31 <Darkvater> why are the others in there? ;p 15:00:53 <peter1138> because they're characters we supported anyway, but in the wrong place 15:01:00 <Darkvater> I think if it's in openttd.grf it could be in that table, no? Unless we remove those sprites from the grf 15:01:01 <peter1138> except for one 15:01:08 <Rubidium> Darkvater: there isn't any native svn property that allows us to place the correct version in ottdres.rc. 15:01:32 <peter1138> Darkvater: sure. but you'd have to obtain and add sprites for FS421 to go in there 15:01:59 <Darkvater> Rubidium: I know there is no native property, but one can easily add a new one. The only problem is that in that case it won't show M or other info if you have changed the rev 15:03:01 <Rubidium> Darkvater: how would you add one? There needs to be some code in the svn application itself to handle the property. You suggest that everyone uses the special OTTD-svn? 15:03:03 <Darkvater> peter1138: hmm; what if we only add the mappings for the sprites we have? 15:03:15 <Darkvater> Rubidium: it needs to be done on the server 15:03:54 <Rubidium> then it only matters for the initial checkout and not the updates I think 15:04:00 <peter1138> Darkvater: i'm not understanding you 15:04:07 <Rubidium> i.e. it only sets the version during the initial checkout 15:04:22 <Darkvater> Rubidium: yes, that's the problem with it. 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Searching the wiki and greping the source produce no evidence of such a change, but it's a been a long time since I've seen someone complaining about not getting a subsidy they think they deserve. 18:00:57 <Darkvater> DaleStan: well I mean TTDPatch, or you are talking about that :) 18:01:07 <DaleStan> I am 18:01:17 <Darkvater> cause I just ran a testgame and if there is a limit in TTDP on subsidy distance from target it's more than 10 tiles 18:02:10 <DaleStan> patchman would probably know what the limit is, or at least where to look. 18:02:21 <Darkvater> cause in OTTD this distance 9 has been there since 0.1.0 and it hasn't been changed since 18:02:29 <Darkvater> s/9/10 18:02:45 <Darkvater> and 0.1.0 is still almost a verbatim copy of TTD 18:02:57 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1FC8D.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:02:59 <DaleStan> It's not impossible for the limit to have been changed to "industry is within the station capture area". 18:03:40 <Darkvater> I'm not worried about industry, but more about passangers 18:03:58 <Darkvater> as that does not have a specific distance it has to be away from distance to work 18:06:51 <peter1138> what's up? 18:07:02 <Darkvater> the sky 18:07:41 <peter1138> i see 18:15:04 <peter1138> well, i don't 18:15:07 <peter1138> because it's dark 18:23:33 <Darkvater> :O 18:23:56 <Darkvater> gotta run..bb later tonight and going to sort out win9x probs with shgetfolderpath 18:24:03 <Darkvater> peter1138: mp-newgrf-gui ^^ 18:30:19 *** Sacro_ [~Ben@adsl-83-100-186-94.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 18:33:33 *** Sacro [~Ben@adsl-83-100-150-214.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:37:34 <CIA-1> miham * r7457 /trunk/lang/ (6 files in 2 dirs): (log message trimmed) 18:37:34 <CIA-1> WebTranslator2 update to 2006-12-09 19:35:23 18:37:34 <CIA-1> esperanto - 191 fixed, 2 changed by LaPingvino (193) 18:37:34 <CIA-1> french - 1 fixed by glx (1) 18:37:34 <CIA-1> german - 27 fixed by Neonox (27) 18:37:36 <CIA-1> italian - 1 fixed by sidew (1) 18:37:36 <CIA-1> polish - 8 fixed by meush (8) 18:44:03 *** znikozc [1@210-30-124-91.pool.ukrtel.net] has joined #openttd 18:47:52 *** DaleStan_ [~Dale@74.140.121.53] has joined #openttd 18:53:37 *** DaleStan [~Dale@74.140.121.53] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:03:11 *** CIA-1 [cia@cia.navi.cx] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:04:10 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1FC8D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 19:10:28 *** CIA-1 [cia@cia.navi.cx] has joined #openttd 19:23:44 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host212-235-dynamic.5-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 19:23:47 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host212-235-dynamic.5-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Killed (NickServ (GHOST command used by Wolf01_))] 19:23:47 *** Wolf01_ [~wolf01@host212-235-dynamic.5-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 19:24:18 *** Wolf01_ [~wolf01@host212-235-dynamic.5-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [] 19:24:23 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host212-235-dynamic.5-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 19:24:51 <Wolf01> evening 19:25:43 <Dozzy> o noes it Wolf01! 19:26:06 *** Rens2Eat is now known as Rens2AFK 19:26:58 *** DaleStan_ is now known as DaleStan 19:33:02 *** znikozc [1@210-30-124-91.pool.ukrtel.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:35:37 *** Eddi|zuHause3 [~johekr@p54B77B5D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 19:37:18 *** Neonox [~Neonox@offb-590ebda5.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #openttd 19:39:07 *** Maedhros [~jc@host86-140-196-226.range86-140.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:40:26 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [~johekr@p54B775D9.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:54:05 <CIA-1> miham * r7458 /trunk/lang/ (american.txt german.txt hungarian.txt portuguese.txt): 19:54:05 <CIA-1> WebTranslator2 update to 2006-12-09 20:53:05 19:54:05 <CIA-1> american - 1 fixed by WhiteRabbit (1) 19:54:05 <CIA-1> german - 1 changed by Neonox (1) 19:54:05 <CIA-1> hungarian - 3 fixed, 5 changed by miham (8) 19:54:07 <CIA-1> portuguese - 29 fixed by izhirahider (29) 19:54:39 <izhirahider> \o/ 20:05:02 *** Rens2AFK is now known as Rens2Sea 20:06:43 <Darkvater> bakk 20:08:05 <Born_Acorn> peter1138, with jcdinstaw.grf, when selecting the wood station from the list, the button doesn't depress! 20:08:06 <Born_Acorn> madness! 20:12:29 <Born_Acorn> Well, not depress. 20:12:35 <Born_Acorn> But the text doesn't go white! 20:12:36 <Born_Acorn> madness! 20:13:16 <peter1138> yes 20:13:25 <peter1138> try it in ttdp too 20:14:45 <CIA-1> glx * r7459 /trunk/train_cmd.c: 20:14:45 <CIA-1> -Fix: make sure TrainConsistChanged() is called for the first vehicle of a chain after reffiting 20:14:45 <CIA-1> because free wagons present in depot can have the same type as the one bought and refitted by autoreplace 20:17:08 <DaleStan> Born_Acorn: The grf file has a color code were one doesn't belong. 20:17:15 <Born_Acorn> ah 20:18:50 *** DannyA [~Danny.Ale@CPE-138-217-252-154.wa.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 20:19:47 *** Addi [~Addi@cable-dynamic-87-245-83-24.shinternet.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:20:06 *** Osai [~Osai@p54B3F226.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 20:25:07 *** Danny [~Danny.Ale@CPE-138-217-252-154.wa.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:26:31 * Brianetta laments grfs and unclear licensing 20:31:49 *** Frostregen_ [~sucks@dslb-084-058-190-001.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 20:31:57 *** Gonozal_VIII [~Gono@N894P027.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:33:42 *** Gonozal_VIII [~Gono@N920P007.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #openttd 20:38:52 *** Frostregen [SADDAM@dslb-084-058-189-064.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:38:59 *** Frostregen_ is now known as Frostregen 21:09:35 <Born_Acorn> The Intercontinental airport is not really much more efficient than the International one 21:12:16 <hylje> oh, really? 21:21:31 <peter1138> indeed 21:24:57 *** LaPingvino [~chatzilla@82-171-74-245.dsl.ip.tiscali.nl] has joined #openttd 21:27:04 <LaPingvino> hello 21:27:18 <Darkvater> what do we think of http://darkvater.homeip.net/~tfarago/openttd/shgetfolderpath.diff 21:27:22 <Darkvater> ? 21:27:28 <LaPingvino> i have to say the buttons <> to set the patches work too fast... 21:28:36 *** Osai^2 [~Osai@p54B3ECDF.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 21:29:49 <Darkvater> for win9x that don't have IE5 21:30:18 <Nigel> i thought win9x just lost OpenTTD support? 21:33:46 *** Sionide [~sphinx@plainparakeet2.hornet.uea.ac.uk] has quit [Quit: /quit] 21:34:07 *** Osai [~Osai@p54B3F226.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:36:34 *** ThePizzaKing [~jeff@c211-28-167-179.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 21:39:59 *** LadyHawk [here@82-47-23-153.cable.ubr02.dudl.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:40:44 *** lolman [~admin@cpc3-leds2-0-0-cust55.leed.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 21:41:36 <lolman> Ello :) 21:41:55 <hylje> roflman 21:42:23 <lolman> :-D 21:49:43 *** Maedhros [~jc@host86-140-196-226.range86-140.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 21:51:01 *** LaPingvino [~chatzilla@82-171-74-245.dsl.ip.tiscali.nl] has quit [Quit: Chatzilla 0.9.77 [Firefox 2.0/2006101023]] 22:05:01 *** Dozzy [~dos@cwoerlee.demon.nl] has left #openttd [] 22:08:15 *** Osai^2 [~Osai@p54B3ECDF.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Osai^2] 22:16:09 *** Mucht_ [~Mucht@p57A0DEB1.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 22:22:14 *** Mucht [~Mucht@p57A0CFB3.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:24:02 <Wolf01> 'night 22:24:13 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host212-235-dynamic.5-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [] 22:27:23 *** Purno [~Purno@5351CCC8.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Quit: Life is a game of pick-up-sticks, played by fucking lunatics.] 22:28:32 *** Bjarni [~Bjarni@0x50a46ac4.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 22:28:33 *** mode/#openttd [+o Bjarni] by ChanServ 22:28:56 <Bjarni> hi channel 22:29:19 <lolman> Ello Bjarni :) 22:29:31 <Bjarni> ello mr. channel 22:29:48 * lolman avoids predictability 22:29:51 <lolman> roft 22:29:53 <lolman> rofl* 22:30:21 <lolman> I can't type anything other than lol correctly :P 22:30:31 <Bjarni> you are so used to lol, that you can't even write anything else 22:30:38 <lolman> snap ;-) 22:30:44 * lws1984 roffls 22:30:49 <lws1984> roffles, even 22:30:52 * lolman waffles 22:36:28 *** LadyHawk [here@82-47-23-153.cable.ubr02.dudl.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 22:52:01 *** DJ_Mirage [~sexybigge@biggetje.xs4all.nl] has quit [Quit: www.sexybiggetje.nl] 22:55:29 <jotham_> i have a city of 26k and i built an 8 length station in it, near the center, after bribing and bulldozing the space to do it - but no passangers will queue up at it - even though i have an 'outstanding' rating with the city - this has also happend at another 26k pop city in another part of the map 22:55:34 <jotham_> i wondered if it was some kind of bug 22:56:56 *** Johnny-9-Fingers [~IceChat7@cd4401128.cable.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 22:57:36 <Naksu> jotham_: i believe cities "produce" only a set amount of passengers 22:57:57 <jotham_> yeah but htere are no other stations etc in the cities 22:58:10 <Johnny-9-Fingers> Hi. Just wanted to say a quick 'Thank you' to all involved in bringing OpenTTD goodness to the masses. 22:58:32 <LadyHawk> jotham_ do you have a passenger train going to/from the station? 22:58:38 <jotham_> of course 22:58:42 <LadyHawk> the station doesnt get any goods until ur taking them away 22:58:44 <LadyHawk> ah 22:58:46 <LadyHawk> odd 22:59:04 <jotham_> i'll do a small test map and see if i can recreate it 23:00:48 <LadyHawk> lol that big a town covers 1/4 of the map i took haha 23:02:11 <Brianetta> Company folded 23:02:27 <Brianetta> 2060 is not the time to join a new game, not when inflationis on 23:02:36 <Brianetta> ir whatever year it actually is 23:02:57 <glx> 2031 actually :) 23:03:03 <Brianetta> Too late 23:03:13 <Brianetta> There's no way to make back what you spend on a loco 23:05:54 <LadyHawk> works fine for me jotham_ 23:06:51 <LadyHawk> just my train is trying to go through a 1 way signal pointing the wrong way 23:06:54 <LadyHawk> wth 23:07:39 *** Neonox [~Neonox@offb-590ebda5.pool.einsundeins.de] has quit [Quit: bin wech....] 23:10:44 <jotham_> LadyHawk: and you bribed/bulldozed your station in? 23:10:48 <jotham_> i think that's a critical part 23:10:53 <LadyHawk> yeah 23:11:04 <LadyHawk> i buldozed the part out in the scenario editor tho 23:11:15 <jotham_> you probably should try it in game 23:11:18 <jotham_> for it to be realistic 23:11:28 <jotham_> since you have to have enough money to bribe the town etc 23:14:32 <LadyHawk> yeah thats what i was guessing.. takes a while to get something going to actually get the money to be able to bribe them tho 23:14:40 <jotham_> yep 23:15:00 <jotham_> friend and i have been playing this map on my server for over 30 hours 23:15:36 <LadyHawk> i hope you guys had some sleep too :p 23:15:37 <jotham_> you could just log into my server and see for yourself 23:15:46 <jotham_> oh yeah we've played off and on for a week on it 23:17:06 <LadyHawk> bbl gonna go watch tv with my bf :) 23:20:03 *** lolman [~admin@cpc3-leds2-0-0-cust55.leed.cable.ntl.com] has quit [] 23:20:11 <Born_Acorn> Oh noes ChrisCF! 23:20:13 <Born_Acorn> D: 23:20:23 <Born_Acorn> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Chriscf 23:23:16 *** ChrisM87 [~ChrisM@p54AC56EA.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:24:28 <Maedhros> night 23:24:41 *** Maedhros [~jc@host86-140-196-226.range86-140.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: leaving] 23:24:45 *** Johnny-9-Fingers [~IceChat7@cd4401128.cable.wanadoo.nl] has quit [Quit: A fine is a tax for doing wrong. 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Now test if the function exists and if not try a different 23:56:14 <CIA-1> approach using our own OTTDSHGetFolderPath wrapper.