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00:00:30 *** A1win [a1win@loota.fi] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:06:18 *** Frostregen_ [SADDAM@dslb-084-058-160-222.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 00:11:53 *** Frostregen [~sucks@dslb-084-058-187-050.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:11:58 *** Frostregen_ is now known as Frostregen 00:13:40 *** A1win [a1win@loota.fi] has joined #openttd 00:19:37 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: Darkvater * r8905 /branches/0.5/ (9 files in 4 dirs): 00:19:37 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: [0.5] -Update readme's, bugs, installers, changelogs etc. to prepare for 0.5.0. 00:19:37 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: [0.5] -Remove the limitation that games are refused to be loaded if no newgrf is present (was already like this in trunk/). 00:24:56 <Darkvater> gn all 00:25:04 <Sionide> n 00:32:09 <Sacro> oooh 00:32:13 <Sacro> lolman: oh noes 00:32:27 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@snat2.arachne.cz] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 00:33:23 <lolman> oh noes 00:37:01 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r8906 /trunk/src/ (lang/english.txt strings.cpp): -Feature: translation dependant formatting of dates. 00:39:13 <Eddi|zuHause3> i thought the date format was already language dependent 00:39:47 <Rubidium> not really 00:40:52 <Rubidium> it was "26th December 2005" whereas for example Japanese uses "2005? 12? 26?" 00:41:31 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r8907 /trunk/src/video/cocoa_v.mm: -Fix (r3281): reading from an unitialized variable. 00:41:51 <Eddi|zuHause3> so the order is now viariable? 00:42:41 <Rubidium> that and the stuff that you put around the strings for days, months and year 00:44:31 <XeryusTC> OTTD fails at property 0C & 0D for NewStations 00:44:35 <Rubidium> so when you rather have "December, 26th 2005" you'll do a STR_DATE_LONG :{STRING:2}, {STRING:1} {NUM} in your language 00:45:06 <XeryusTC> OTTD can have a maximum lenght/width of 7, where TTDP has 7+, which is actually 8 00:47:43 <Eddi|zuHause3> is this "reordering" of parameters also possible in other strings? 00:48:57 <Rubidium> think so; I haven't implemented it anyway ;) 00:52:02 <Rubidium> oh, sorry, it is {2:STRING}, {1:STRING} {NUM} 00:53:23 <Rubidium> Eddi|zuHause3: does this mean there will be a large number of changes in the German translations? 00:53:53 <Eddi|zuHause3> no, i'm not a translator 00:54:01 <Eddi|zuHause3> i was just curious 00:56:56 <Eddi|zuHause3> out of my head i also don't know any instances where this would be necessary 00:59:40 <Eddi|zuHause3> but what i know is necessary is using "." instead of "," as the 1000-separator 01:00:06 <Rubidium> isn't that a setting somewhere? 01:00:14 <Eddi|zuHause3> i have not seen it 01:05:29 <Eddi|zuHause3> it looks like it's a per-currency setting 01:05:35 <Eddi|zuHause3> not a per-language setting 01:05:54 <Eddi|zuHause3> it's "." for DM, but "," for EUR 01:06:46 <Tefad> euro 01:06:51 <Tefad> silly xterm. 01:10:59 <Eddi|zuHause3> i guess using a custom currency is a workaround... 01:26:44 *** nairan [~maui_key@p5498F22A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 01:57:01 *** XeryusTC [~irc@cc480157-b.sneek1.fr.home.nl] has quit [] 01:57:51 *** Digitalfox [~chatzilla@bl8-41-250.dsl.telepac.pt] has left #openttd [] 02:16:43 *** Sacro|Laptop [~Ben@87.102.80.3] has joined #openttd 02:23:49 *** Sacro [~Ben@87.102.80.3] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:24:03 *** KritiK [Maxim@ppp83-237-103-235.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:30:53 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [~johekr@p54B75A43.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 02:37:20 *** Eddi|zuHause3 [~johekr@p54B76176.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:55:23 *** Sacro|Mobile [~Ben@87.102.80.3] has joined #openttd 03:01:35 *** Sacro|Laptop [~Ben@87.102.80.3] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:12:03 *** Sacro|Mobile is now known as Sacro|Zzz 03:36:20 *** gass [~any@81.84.150.85] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:46:34 *** Sacro|Zzz [~Ben@87.102.80.3] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:48:50 *** ThePizzaKing [~jeff@c211-28-155-87.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 04:07:47 *** Digitalfox [~chatzilla@bl8-40-53.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #openttd 04:28:48 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: bye] 04:55:29 *** Smoky555 [~Miranda@intmail.vgtz.com] has joined #openttd 05:23:30 *** Zavior [~Zavior@d195-237-7-217.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:24:08 *** Zavior [~Zavior@d195-237-7-217.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 05:24:10 *** roboboy [~Leo@c211-30-195-152.carlnfd4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 05:44:07 *** sPooT [~spoot@e156067.upc-e.chello.nl] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 05:56:36 *** SwordFish [~asd@84-50-236-142-dsl.kjj.estpak.ee] has joined #openttd 05:58:06 *** Hinrik [~bla@dsl-228-236.hive.is] has joined #openttd 05:58:38 <Hinrik> Quick question. How do enable the "put traffic lights every X tiles" thing? 05:58:49 <Hinrik> while construction rails 06:01:25 <Tron> just build signals 06:01:34 <Tron> click-drag 06:01:36 <hylje> drag the signal builder 06:09:51 <Hinrik> ah, I see 06:15:24 <Hinrik> damn, it makes two-way signals 06:15:42 <Tron> build on one tile the signal you want 06:15:47 <Tron> then drag from this tile 06:18:48 <Hinrik> ok 06:28:16 *** lugo [~lugo@pD9581DA1.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 06:32:27 <Hinrik> Hm, it would be more useful it could follow your rails, instead of just going straight... 06:35:04 *** llugo [~lugo@pD958262E.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:10:50 *** Desolator [~admin@86.126.43.192] has joined #openttd 07:27:30 *** Desolator [~admin@86.126.43.192] has left #openttd [] 07:41:15 *** roboboy [~Leo@c211-30-195-152.carlnfd4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:52:34 *** Sacro|Laptop [~Ben@87.102.80.3] has joined #openttd 08:27:41 *** TinoM [~Tino@i5387DBD4.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 08:36:37 *** Sacro|Laptop is now known as Sacro|College 08:41:03 *** Tron_ [YkAFmkgE@nat-1.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de] has joined #openttd 08:54:05 *** TinoM [~Tino@i5387DBD4.versanet.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:09:39 *** TinoM [~Tino@i5387E301.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 09:12:19 *** TinoM| [~Tino@i5387E34E.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 09:19:09 *** TinoM [~Tino@i5387E301.versanet.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:23:45 *** Sacro|Mobile [~Ben@87.102.80.3] has joined #openttd 09:28:56 *** Sacro|College [~Ben@87.102.80.3] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:33:20 *** TinoM| is now known as TinoM 09:34:21 *** Desolator [~admin@86.126.43.192] has joined #openttd 09:34:40 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@snat2.arachne.cz] has joined #openttd 09:42:38 <TinoM> !log 09:53:39 <Darkvater> morning 09:54:22 *** XeryusTC [~irc@cc480157-b.sneek1.fr.home.nl] has joined #openttd 09:55:15 <TinoM> mornin' 09:56:31 <TinoM> where do i find an explanation of the new cargo translation table? what does it change in the game? 09:57:27 <Darkvater> nothing 09:59:30 <TinoM> okay ;) 10:02:58 *** HMage [~HMage@85.21.179.41] has joined #openttd 10:04:33 <Darkvater> HMage: I updated the source to call primary->play but didn't make a binary yet 10:04:51 <HMage> alright, I'll wait 10:04:58 <Darkvater> although I can't really see how this would help as the clicks happen when multiple sounds are active, so it surely isn't stpping 10:05:38 <Darkvater> http://bugs.openttd.org/task/635#comment957 10:05:40 <Darkvater> lool 10:06:13 <HMage> yep, I identified that as a resampler problem - directsound tries to resample on the fly, but the highpoint resamplers are making one-sample click at the target sampling rate. Found no reference to that anywhere on the internet. 10:06:50 <Darkvater> "but the highpoint resamplers are making one-sample click at the target sampling rate 10:06:53 <Darkvater> ' 10:06:56 <Darkvater> ? 10:07:01 <Darkvater> could you explain that in english? 10:13:50 *** orudge [~orudge@8afbfebe.resnet.st-andrews.ac.uk] has quit [] 10:19:02 <HMage> the high-quality Windows XP kernel sampling rate resampler is making a click for unknown reason, I'm trying to download debug directsound and see what debug output will have to say. 10:20:43 <Darkvater> ah for 'unknown reason'. I thought you had found a reasn ;) 10:22:41 <HMage> fmod says it's a longstanding bug that microsoft won't fix, so they change system configuration settings and force quality to medium (lowest possible value), medium quality kernel resampler doesn't click. 10:23:07 <Darkvater> ... 10:23:22 <Darkvater> and this doesn't happen in DirectSound3D? 10:24:20 <HMage> According to fmod, happens on anything that needs to be resampled from lower sampling rate to higher by kernel mixer. So any software directsound(3d) buffer that needs to be resampled is prone to this. 10:25:10 <HMage> though I doubt it's the real reason 10:25:55 <HMage> maybe buffer positioning gets skewed after resampling 10:26:58 *** Sacro|Out [~Ben@87.102.80.3] has joined #openttd 10:27:06 <Darkvater> as fmod says I doubt MS will fix this ever. All focus is on Vista and DX10 is not coming to XP 10:29:26 *** mikl [~mikl@tbv.faderhuset.org] has joined #openttd 10:31:56 *** Sacro|Mobile [~Ben@87.102.80.3] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:39:30 <Hinrik> when calculating how much money you get for delivering cargo, is the duration measured from when the cargo is loaded onto the train or when the train leaves the station? 10:40:26 <ThePizzaKing> I think it's from when it appears at the station 10:40:30 <Darkvater> from when cargo arrives at station 10:40:39 <Hinrik> ah, I see 10:40:57 * ThePizzaKing knew something :O 10:41:03 * ThePizzaKing dances 10:44:43 *** HMage [~HMage@85.21.179.41] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:48:33 <peter1138> hi 10:49:51 <Darkvater> morning peter1138 10:51:46 *** Desolator [~admin@86.126.43.192] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:54:40 <peter1138> hi 10:54:43 <peter1138> damn, i'm starving 10:55:20 <Eddi|zuHause2> there's an easy solution to that ;) 10:55:56 <peter1138> kill myself? 10:56:31 <Darkvater> that'd prolly work but I think eddi thought of something less drastic 11:02:34 *** Desolator [~admin@86.126.43.192] has joined #openttd 11:02:41 <Desolator> hi 11:06:23 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1C491.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 11:11:17 *** Rens2Sea [~Rens2Sea@213.211.185.168] has joined #openttd 11:14:53 *** Desolator [~admin@86.126.43.192] has quit [] 11:23:38 *** setrodox [~setrodox@85-124-45-77.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has quit [Quit: Have Fun ;D] 11:27:50 <Darkvater> < lucnh 11:41:33 *** ThePizzaKing [~jeff@c211-28-155-87.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Quit: ThePizzaKing] 11:42:20 *** Sacro|Mobile [~Ben@87.102.80.3] has joined #openttd 11:45:54 *** Sacro|Out [~Ben@87.102.80.3] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:48:12 *** HMage [~HMage@85.21.179.41] has joined #openttd 12:07:44 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@82-43-58-81.cable.ubr04.croy.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:07:59 *** TheMask96 [martijn@sirius-r5.ne2000.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:08:47 *** Netsplit larich.oftc.net <-> osmotic.oftc.net quits: @Darkvater, eQualizer, coronel, Triffid_Hunter, Tron_, lolman, Frostregen, stillunknown, DaleStan, Jezral, (+58 more, use /NETSPLIT to show all of them) 12:09:45 <SpComb> Wii helb 12:09:51 <SpComb> hmmk 12:09:53 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@82-43-58-81.cable.ubr04.croy.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 12:09:53 *** ln- [lauri@ksenos.fi] has joined #openttd 12:09:53 *** Netsplit over, joins: hylje, HMage, Sacro|Mobile, Rens2Sea, Progman, mikl, XeryusTC, Vikthor, TinoM, Tron_ (+58 more) 12:10:01 *** _42_ [truelight@openttd.org] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:10:14 *** _42_ [truelight@openttd.org] has joined #openttd 12:11:06 *** helb [~helb@84.244.90.159] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:11:06 *** Belugas [belugas@openttd.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:12:56 *** helb [~helb@84.244.90.159] has joined #openttd 12:16:16 *** TheMask96 [martijn@sirius-r5.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 12:18:56 *** Sacro|Out [~Ben@87.102.80.3] has joined #openttd 12:21:30 *** PandaMojo [~chatzilla@ip72-197-231-130.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Chatzilla 0.9.74 [Firefox 1.5.0.10/2007021601]] 12:21:50 *** PandaMojo [~chatzilla@ip72-197-231-130.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #openttd 12:23:48 *** PandaMojo [~chatzilla@ip72-197-231-130.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [] 12:24:01 *** Sacro|Mobile [~Ben@87.102.80.3] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:27:44 *** PandaMojo [~chatzilla@ip72-197-231-130.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #openttd 12:32:21 *** mode/#openttd [+nt] by ChanServ 12:32:24 *** mode/#openttd [+o Rubidium] by ChanServ 12:32:39 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@snat2.arachne.cz] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 12:33:15 *** Belugas [belugas@openttd.org] has joined #openttd 12:33:24 *** mode/#openttd [+o Belugas] by ChanServ 12:33:47 *** mode/#openttd [-o Rubidium] by Rubidium 12:35:27 *** Darkvater [~tfarago@tin.liacs.nl] has left #openttd [] 12:35:27 *** Darkvater [~tfarago@tin.liacs.nl] has joined #openttd 12:35:29 *** mode/#openttd [+o Darkvater] by ChanServ 12:35:38 *** Digitalfox [~chatzilla@bl8-40-53.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:51:10 *** ln- [lauri@ksenos.fi] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:52:51 *** Purno [~Purno@5351CE71.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 12:54:00 *** ln- [lauri@ksenos.fi] has joined #openttd 13:01:27 *** Sacro|Mobile [~Ben@87.102.80.3] has joined #openttd 13:04:56 *** Sacro|Out [~Ben@87.102.80.3] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:17:44 *** mikl [~mikl@tbv.faderhuset.org] has quit [Quit: In the end, all that matters is your relation with God...] 13:18:03 *** HMage [~HMage@85.21.179.41] has quit [Quit: HMage] 13:18:36 *** mikl [~mikl@tbv.faderhuset.org] has joined #openttd 13:19:35 *** mikl [~mikl@tbv.faderhuset.org] has quit [] 13:19:52 *** mikl [~mikl@tbv.faderhuset.org] has joined #openttd 13:31:24 *** Smoky555 [~Miranda@intmail.vgtz.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:43:25 *** HMage [~HMage@85.21.179.41] has joined #openttd 13:51:54 <blove> Hey. 13:53:44 *** Sacro|Out [~Ben@87.102.80.3] has joined #openttd 13:58:56 *** Sacro|Mobile [~Ben@87.102.80.3] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:06:34 <Belugas> hello 14:07:05 <Darkvater> ola 14:07:27 <Belugas> como esta senor Vater? 14:08:07 <Eddi|zuHause2> shouldn't it be "estas"? 14:08:29 <Eddi|zuHause2> "esta" would be 3rd person 14:08:42 <Darkvater> you need an inverted ? at the start of the question ;) 14:09:35 <Eddi|zuHause2> ¿ <- that one? 14:09:48 <hylje> upside up ? :o 14:09:48 <Belugas> yeah well... did not find it on my us keyboard :P 14:09:56 <Darkvater> hehe 14:10:27 <Eddi|zuHause2> ? is Shift+ß, and ¿ is AltGr+Shift+ß on my keyboard 14:10:30 <Belugas> and the "s"... because coffee is not flowing in my system yet! 14:13:49 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 14:13:52 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 14:14:35 *** Digitalfox [~chatzilla@bl7-178-207.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #openttd 14:17:15 <Digitalfox> It should be: " Como estás senhor Vater" In portuguese 14:17:25 <Digitalfox> with a question mark"?" 14:18:27 <Digitalfox> Or in 3rd person "Como está senhor Vater?" 14:20:14 <Darkvater> can I be emperor Vater? 14:21:03 <Belugas> nope my Lord, your alter ego never achieved that rank 14:21:10 <Darkvater> says WHO? 14:21:20 <Belugas> George Lucas 14:21:39 * Darkvater summons George Luca 14:21:59 <Belugas> :D 14:22:19 <Digitalfox> LOL 14:22:34 <Darkvater> now listen here you piece of baht dung. You will crown me emperor or else! 14:23:19 <Digitalfox> I must say that you ( Openttd Team ) are one of the most fun people i encountered in software development.. 14:25:42 <Darkvater> Belugas: did that work? 14:25:45 <Darkvater> Digitalfox: ;) 14:26:27 <Belugas> i'll take the else then! 14:26:37 <Belugas> I do not obey to pressures! 14:26:49 <Darkvater> *kuch* 14:26:55 <hylje> Digitalfox: i know some python people who are more silly 14:27:15 <Darkvater> hylje: prove it! 14:27:21 <hylje> no u 14:27:50 * Darkvater feeds Belugas some apples 14:28:04 <Darkvater> *muhahhaha* *muhmuhuhaha* wheee 14:28:12 <Belugas> But, if that makes you happy, my Lord, i will still call you as such 14:28:19 <Belugas> apples... beurk 14:28:26 <Belugas> gimme coffee 14:28:31 <Belugas> and fish! 14:29:34 <Sacro|Out> Digitalfox: i dunno about fun, but they definatly lack sanity 14:30:31 <Belugas> that is what happens when one works too hard on some new features for ottd :S 14:31:25 <Digitalfox> I'm seeing the qdb.us/top i'm laughing so mutch.. 14:31:37 <Digitalfox> <BoZmAn20> Goddamnit, my ex girlfriend has such horrible taste in men 14:31:39 <Digitalfox> <BoZmAn20> wait 14:31:40 <Digitalfox> <BoZmAn20> Shit. 14:33:35 <Digitalfox> I say you this, there are really crazy people in the net.. LOL :) 14:34:14 <Darkvater> they're usually on 14:34:57 <Digitalfox> Just one morequote i found that is from another world ( don't want to flood the channel ) 14:34:59 <Digitalfox> **You know you're in a Racist channel when you see this** 14:35:00 <Digitalfox> (19:22:54)<Jaayy> I like my coffee the way I like my niggers. 14:35:02 <Digitalfox> (19:22:59)<Naive-EOC> Dead? 14:35:03 <Digitalfox> (19:23:01)<Derid-EOC> In the Field? 14:35:05 <Digitalfox> (19:23:02)<Ball-licker> In jail? 14:35:07 <Digitalfox> (19:23:06)<Humur> Killing each other? 14:35:08 <Digitalfox> (19:23:08)<Naive-EOC> Stealing? 14:35:10 <Digitalfox> (19:23:09)<Sailym> Covered in blood? 14:35:11 <Digitalfox> (19:23:11)<Humur> 5$ a piece? 14:35:13 <Digitalfox> (19:23:13)<Derid-EOC> Stupid? 14:35:14 <Digitalfox> (19:23:20)<Jaayy> ... 14:35:16 <Digitalfox> (19:23:31)<Jaayy> BLACK YOU FUCKING RACIST BASTARDS! I LIKE MY COFFEE BLACK! 14:38:42 <Tefad> uhmmm 14:39:05 <Eddi|zuHause2> Digitalfox: we all know these quotes 14:39:15 <Eddi|zuHause2> there is absolutely no point in spamming 14:39:32 <Tefad> righto. 14:39:34 <Roel> or spam only the link.. 14:39:48 <Tefad> i keep thinking this channel is still on freenode : ) 14:39:49 <Digitalfox> ok, sorry about ;) 14:40:04 <Tefad> (i'm on like.. 6 networks atm, hard to tell which is what) 14:41:58 *** Sacro|Out [~Ben@87.102.80.3] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:44:35 *** Sacro [~Ben@87.102.80.3] has joined #openttd 14:52:05 *** Rens2Sea is now known as Rens2Crackdown 14:52:54 *** Triffid_Hunter [~Splat@funkmunch.net] has quit [Server closed connection] 14:53:11 *** Triffid_Hunter [~Splat@funkmunch.net] has joined #openttd 14:55:53 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB5581.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 14:59:21 *** Vikthor [~novotv6@pc304-31.feld.cvut.cz] has joined #openttd 15:00:52 <Darkvater> Tron_: ola 15:03:25 <Eddi|zuHause2> "¡Hola!" :) 15:03:42 * Darkvater slaps Eddi|zuHause2 15:04:05 <peter1138> moo? 15:04:07 <peter1138> god 15:04:09 <peter1138> i'm really really hot 15:04:15 <peter1138> and everyone else is complaining it's cold 15:04:23 <peter1138> there's a heater on full blast 15:05:01 <Eddi|zuHause2> recently there was a study that women feel cold much faster than men 15:05:11 <Darkvater> lol 15:06:33 <Eddi|zuHause2> they explained that partly by the fact that men have more muscle tissue than women, and thus generate more heat themselves 15:10:43 <Roel> 16:04:09 < peter1138> i'm really really hot 15:10:48 <Roel> ^ That sounds soo wrong 15:12:51 *** Vikthor [~novotv6@pc304-31.feld.cvut.cz] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:16:25 *** HMage [~HMage@85.21.179.41] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:22:53 *** ChrisM87 [~ChrisM@p54AC5D0F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 15:35:14 <peter1138> if you insist 15:45:42 *** Naksu [naksu@youzen.ext.b2.fi] has quit [Server closed connection] 15:45:44 *** Naksu [naksu@youzen.ext.b2.fi] has joined #openttd 15:52:06 <ln-> http://bash.org/?731734 15:53:39 <Eddi|zuHause2> hihi ;) 15:54:26 <Eddi|zuHause2> (althoug i have no idea "how much" 9in is) 15:55:18 *** SwordFish [~asd@84-50-236-142-dsl.kjj.estpak.ee] has quit [] 15:56:29 *** Thomas[NL] [~thomas@vdburgt.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 15:58:29 <Belugas> 9in is NIN 15:58:43 <Belugas> heheh 16:00:49 <Roel> Nine Inch Nails? 16:01:03 *** Thomas[NL] [~thomas@vdburgt.xs4all.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:01:22 <Belugas> :D YEAH! 16:07:44 <Tefad> Ni? 16:08:02 <Tefad> NI? rather .. oops 16:21:21 *** Sacro|Laptop [~Ben@87.102.80.62] has joined #openttd 16:25:03 *** Sacro|Laptop [~Ben@87.102.80.62] has quit [] 16:25:44 *** Sacro|Laptop [~Ben@87.102.80.62] has joined #openttd 16:26:12 *** Sacro|Laptop [~Ben@87.102.80.62] has quit [] 16:39:30 *** TronBSD [~tron@p54A3FD02.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 16:42:53 <Belugas> hello TronBSD 16:44:49 *** Tron [~tron@p54A3E36E.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:47:27 *** HMage [~HMage@85.21.179.41] has joined #openttd 16:51:27 *** sPooT [~spoot@e156067.upc-e.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 16:53:24 *** Sacro [~Ben@87.102.80.3] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:54:20 *** Sacro [~Ben@87.102.80.3] has joined #openttd 17:02:05 *** Sacro|Laptop [~Ben@87.102.1.237] has joined #openttd 17:02:34 <Darkvater> whohooo 17:08:34 *** scia [~scia@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 17:09:05 <HMage> Darkvater: ? 17:10:48 <Darkvater> nothing 17:31:41 *** setrodox [~setrodox@85-124-45-77.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #openttd 17:43:28 *** Digitalfox [~chatzilla@bl7-178-207.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Quit: Bye Bye...] 17:47:28 *** BobingAbout [~BobingAbo@adsl-83-100-193-166.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 17:48:16 <blove> Hey. I have an idea for a new feature (although quite small). 17:48:34 <blove> Indeed, I already created the patch and submitted it (FS#653). 17:49:02 <blove> This is my very first patch attempt, so I would like someone to take a look at it and give me some constructive feedback. 17:49:39 *** BobingAbout [~BobingAbo@adsl-83-100-193-166.karoo.KCOM.COM] has left #openttd [] 17:50:13 <blove> It simply addes TileHeight to the coordinates in Land Area Information. 17:57:16 <Belugas> blove, one question : why do you think it is important to have tile height been visible? Out of curiosity, really... 17:58:30 <blove> It was a feature that I found extremely useful in Simutrans. When mapping out routes with lots of trees in the way, it can be difficult to notice height changes. 17:59:13 <Belugas> i see. Did you know you can hide trees in ottd? 18:00:43 <blove> yes, though I usually don't bother. I should probably just get used to doing that. 18:01:31 <Belugas> Well... the idea is not so bad, i have to agree with that :) It might even be usefull latter on. 18:02:20 <blove> I actually don't know what it will do for water tiles. It simply calls TileHeight(). 18:03:24 <Belugas> one constructive critism i can give, is that you should not give a translation of the string to all lang available. It is a nice move, which, i'm sure could have been quite time consuming. But the usual way is to have the new string in english, and let the official translators do the actual translation thnmeselves 18:06:21 <blove> I thought about that, but I was concerned that inserting a NUM would break the string for all other languages. 18:07:15 <Belugas> nope, that is the job of strgen :) 18:07:41 *** DJ_Mirage [~sexybigge@biggetje.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 18:07:55 <Rubidium> it would actually break the strings in the other languages 18:08:44 <Rubidium> but it should still be done via the translators 18:10:25 <peter1138> hmm 18:11:15 *** Tron_ [YkAFmkgE@nat-1.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:12:01 <Darkvater> blove: you have the tooltip for dragging tools that displays the delta height 18:12:43 <blove> How does that work in general? A patch waits until all the translators get to it? Or does it get applied, leaving the other languages broken until later? (Assuming the patch is otherwise acceptable, of course.) 18:13:06 <Darkvater> a language is not broken 18:13:19 <Darkvater> you will simply see the english string until it is translated 18:13:26 <blove> Darkvater: hmm. I've never seen that tooltip; I'll have to look for it next time. 18:14:23 *** Desolator [~admin@86.126.43.192] has joined #openttd 18:14:24 <Darkvater> you have to enable it in the patches window 18:14:57 <Rubidium> patches get in without translations (except english.txt). After that it's up to the translators to regularly check whether there are strings to be translated. 18:16:21 <blove> And that holds for modified strings as well? 18:18:25 <Rubidium> yes 18:18:35 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@dD5772982.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 18:18:41 <blove> ok thanks. 18:23:27 *** HMage [~HMage@85.21.179.41] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:25:22 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r8908 /trunk/src/ (7 files): -Codechange: declaration of DrawBridgeMiddle does not belong in a map accessors header. 18:44:59 *** Digitalfox [~chatzilla@bl8-40-53.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #openttd 18:50:47 *** Sacro_ [~Ben@87.102.80.3] has joined #openttd 18:50:47 *** Sacro [~Ben@87.102.80.3] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:57:26 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B82828.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:59:38 *** KritiK [Maxim@ppp85-140-204-187.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #openttd 19:00:38 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B81BCB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 19:00:38 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 19:04:40 *** TronBSD is now known as Tron 19:07:18 *** mikl [~mikl@tbv.faderhuset.org] has quit [Quit: In the end, all that matters is your relation with God...] 19:11:47 *** re06011988 [~r.erwan@vol21-2-82-226-46-162.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 19:11:52 *** re06011988 [~r.erwan@vol21-2-82-226-46-162.fbx.proxad.net] has left #openttd [] 19:14:16 *** Digitalfox [~chatzilla@bl8-40-53.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:16:40 *** Twofish [~Twofish@195.204.107.4] has joined #openttd 19:17:52 *** Tron_ [~tron@p54A3FD02.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 19:20:29 *** eQualize1 [~lauri@dyn15-55.dsl.spy.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 19:20:34 *** DarkSSHClone [~tfarago@tin.liacs.nl] has joined #openttd 19:20:43 *** blathijs_ [~matthijs@katherina.student.utwente.nl] has joined #openttd 19:21:12 *** nfc_ [~nfc@dsl-hvkgw1-fe65fa00-202.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #openttd 19:21:14 *** Netsplit charon.oftc.net <-> galapagos.oftc.net quits: coronel, TheMask96, waxman, illu, |2rB, blathijs, kdr, Biff, Tron, helb, (+8 more, use /NETSPLIT to show all of them) 19:21:41 <lolman> eww 19:22:25 *** DarkSSHClone is now known as Darkvater 19:22:51 *** Tron_ is now known as Tron 19:23:35 *** Rens2Sea [~Rens2Sea@213.211.185.168] has joined #openttd 19:24:04 *** BJH2 [~chatzilla@e176122041.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 19:24:53 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB5581.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 19:25:13 *** _42_ [truelight@openttd.org] has joined #openttd 19:28:29 *** TheMask96 [martijn@sirius-r5.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 19:28:37 *** Naksu [naksu@youzen.ext.b2.fi] has joined #openttd 19:28:53 *** Wolfensteijn [~wolf@h88211156156.dsl.speedlinq.nl] has joined #openttd 19:29:16 *** illu [~illu@data-pirates.org] has joined #openttd 19:30:09 *** waxman [~cfluegel@static.88-198-83-123.clients.your-server.de] has joined #openttd 19:31:23 *** Biff [~biff@30.80-203-176.nextgentel.com] has joined #openttd 19:32:24 *** coronel [andreabl@login1.powertech.no] has joined #openttd 19:32:30 *** helb [~helb@84.244.90.159] has joined #openttd 19:32:32 *** boekabart [~boekabart@g54037.upc-g.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 19:34:42 *** kdr [materi@h-85-24-203-79.NA.cust.bahnhof.se] has joined #openttd 19:39:19 *** Digitalfox [~chatzilla@bl8-40-53.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #openttd 19:39:26 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host166-194-dynamic.58-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 19:39:36 <Wolf01> hello 19:44:39 <Sacro|Laptop> Wolf01: what on earth did you just do 19:44:57 <Wolf01> wtf? 19:45:17 <Wolf01> ehm... typo, what are you meaning? 19:45:21 <Sacro|Laptop> heh 19:45:24 <Sacro|Laptop> see above :p 19:45:38 <lolman> oh noes 19:45:43 <Sacro|Laptop> http://zapotek.paivola.fi/~terom/logs/openttd/last/50 19:45:46 <Sacro|Laptop> oh noes... 19:45:52 <Sacro|Laptop> :o 19:45:57 <Sacro|Laptop> it was lolman who caused the netsplit 19:46:04 *** lolman_ [~john@81.100.228.56] has joined #openttd 19:46:12 <Sacro|Laptop> and theres another 19:46:15 *** lolman [~john@81.100.228.56] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:46:17 <Sacro|Laptop> they are cloning 19:46:20 <lolman_> Was it heck LOL 19:46:23 *** lolman_ is now known as lolman 19:46:50 <lolman> Sacro|Laptop: any idea where amarok is in the Arch repos? 19:47:05 <Sacro|Laptop> err... 19:47:08 <Sacro|Laptop> most likely extra 19:47:42 <lolman> I meant which package, but I've found it :) 19:51:33 <Digitalfox> I was reading some stuff about netsplit, and found some information i didn't know.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit 19:51:52 <Digitalfox> This is true "Occasionally some users will attempt to use netsplits to gain access to passworded channels. If none of the channel users were on server C, a user could join a private channel and later gain access when the servers relink. This is commonly known as riding the split." 19:51:53 <Digitalfox> ? 19:52:08 <hylje> net rider 19:53:05 <Roel> Digitalfox, but that's only possible on unregistered channels and network without chanserv 19:53:32 <Roel> Hmm, wait, that's taking a channel 19:53:56 <Roel> That's possible with broken chanservs, they normaly should kick you from the channel once the netsplit is over 19:54:32 <Digitalfox> i see, thanks 19:57:06 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host166-194-dynamic.58-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Killed (NickServ (GHOST command used by Wolfolo|AWAY))] 19:57:07 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host166-194-dynamic.58-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 19:59:47 *** blathijs_ is now known as blathijs 20:06:40 *** Rexxars [~rexxars@ti131310a341-1937.bb.online.no] has joined #openttd 20:06:44 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@snat2.arachne.cz] has joined #openttd 20:08:19 *** HMage [~HMage@85.21.179.41] has joined #openttd 20:09:16 *** Desolator [~admin@86.126.43.192] has left #openttd [] 20:11:53 *** Sacro|Laptop [~Ben@87.102.1.237] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:13:44 *** tf85 [~tf84@88.134.172.156] has joined #openttd 20:13:51 *** tf85 [~tf84@88.134.172.156] has left #openttd [] 20:15:34 *** Sacro_ is now known as Sacro 20:18:44 *** Sacro|Laptop [~Ben@87.102.80.3] has joined #openttd 20:19:38 *** Sacro|Laptop [~Ben@87.102.80.3] has quit [] 20:19:54 *** Thomas[NL] [~thomas@vdburgt.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 20:21:45 *** Thomas[NL] [~thomas@vdburgt.xs4all.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:27:43 *** mikl [~mikl@tbv.faderhuset.org] has joined #openttd 20:36:51 *** CmdKewin [~cmdkewin@84-72-112-171.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #openttd 20:37:04 *** CmdKewin [~cmdkewin@84-72-112-171.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [] 20:43:25 *** HMage` [~HMage@85.21.179.41] has joined #openttd 20:48:16 *** HMage [~HMage@85.21.179.41] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:52:13 *** DJ_Mirage [~sexybigge@biggetje.xs4all.nl] has quit [Quit: www.sexybiggetje.nl] 20:52:43 *** Purno [~Purno@5351CE71.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:03:02 *** scia [~scia@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:07:32 *** HMage` [~HMage@85.21.179.41] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:13:57 *** boekabart [~boekabart@g54037.upc-g.chello.nl] has quit [Quit: Your eyes grow heavy.. you grow very sleepy..... zzzz...] 21:14:45 *** TinoM [~Tino@i5387E34E.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 21:19:57 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: matthijs * r8909 /branches/0.5/os/debian/ (12 files in 2 dirs): 21:19:57 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: [Debian] -Change: Update debian packaging files to those used for releases. 21:19:57 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: - Compile with freetype / fontconfig support. 21:19:57 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: - Make menu files translatable. 21:19:57 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: - Other packaging cleanups. 21:19:57 *** Sacro [~Ben@87.102.80.3] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:19:58 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: - Bump version number to 0.5.0-1. 21:20:09 *** Sacro [~Ben@87.102.80.3] has joined #openttd 21:24:00 * SpComb bumps it a bit too much and accidentially sends it up to 5.0.1 21:25:07 <ln-> blathijs: btw, about debian, do you think a server-only version of ottd could be accepted as a part of debian? 21:25:33 <glx> server still needs TTD files 21:26:14 <ln-> why? 21:26:34 <glx> it displays everything internally 21:26:54 <ln-> but that's ... silly. 21:27:03 <izhirahider> This http://bugs.openttd.org/task/640 should really be fixed before release 21:27:10 <Brianetta> Somebody made a patch that didn't, but it was untested. I believe that it was somebody whose name began with B. 21:27:32 <Brianetta> Bjarni or Born_Acorn perhaps 21:27:39 <ln-> Batman? 21:27:42 <glx> izhirahider: it's only in trunk 21:27:46 <Sacro> Bugs Bunny? 21:28:29 <Brianetta> ln-, Sacro If they're dwevs, then it's a possibility 21:29:05 <Sacro> :o BANANAMAN 21:30:02 <Rubidium> ln-: nobody really cared about removing that limitation for the dedicated server and it is a little more difficult than 'just' removing the graphics, drawing and such 21:30:35 <blathijs> ln-: The problem is that the sprites themselves contain size information that's used 21:30:38 <Rubidium> as (IIRC) the sprites boundary boxes are used for determining the length of trains etc. 21:31:14 <blathijs> ln-: but, it's probable that the whole of ttd will be in Debian soon, if my sponsor finds time to upload it 21:31:52 <Rubidium> though a debian package with only dedicated (no sdl, libpng, libfreetype and libfontconfig dependencies) would be nice 21:35:53 <blathijs> yes, just didn't get around to implementing that yet 21:37:19 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: matthijs * r8910 /branches/0.5/os/debian/po/ca.po: [Debian] -Fix: Remove old reference to rc4. 21:40:56 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@dD5772982.access.telenet.be] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:42:24 <lolman> Ello all :) 21:42:29 <Sacro> oh noes 21:42:34 <lolman> Indeed 21:42:43 * Sacro watches The Animals of Farthing Wood 21:42:50 <lolman> Bah, dad wants me, brb 21:42:54 <Sacro> lol 21:43:35 <Wolf01> bah... every day i read about grf wars "no, i don't want my grf used in ottd" "ottd doesn't support my grf" "ottd...", i think it is time to switch off from ttdpatch, is stupid that i and frostregen must wait them to complete our eyecandy feature :| 21:44:31 <Wolf01> xml+tar.gz/zip and we have resolved all 21:45:43 *** Neonox [~Neonox@p57B2AD83.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 21:46:06 <Rubidium> as if xml is such a good way to encode all the stuff 21:46:17 <DaleStan> Wolf01: Well, you might try working on the already specified features instead. 21:46:17 <DaleStan> <peter1138> there is a reason it's not in xml <peter1138> anyone who takes the time to fully understand the system so they can write an xml structure realises it's not worth it 21:46:40 <Wolf01> DaleStan, grf sucks . 21:46:50 <DaleStan> How so? 21:47:01 <Rubidium> Wolf01: write a replacement for grf that does everything grf does and more 21:47:48 <Rubidium> and write the support for that system for OpenTTD and come with a decently sized set of 'grfs' in your system 21:48:11 <Wolf01> however when ottd will become 32bpp, all the ttdpatch grf's won't fit in ottd 21:48:34 <Rubidium> Wolf01: where did you get that knowledge? 21:48:55 <Wolf01> *if will become 21:49:02 <DaleStan> And even if it is true, NFO can script 32bpp graphics just as well as it can script 8bpp graphics 21:49:19 <Rubidium> Wolf01: ottd will keep support for the old 8bpp graphics 21:49:49 <Rubidium> and even if the engine is 32bpp, there is nothing withholding somebody to write a 8bpp -> 32bpp conversion tool 21:50:09 <Wolf01> i didn't mean that, i mean that i DON'T want to see a rendered sprite near a 8bpp sprite 21:50:50 <DaleStan> So? Then only use grf files containing 32bpp sprites. 21:50:58 <Rubidium> ah, so you're not using av8? 21:51:03 <Wolf01> no 21:51:41 <Rubidium> after all, av8's sprites are rendered 21:54:17 <Rubidium> anyway, there are still more than 4000 sprites left to make 32bpp, so it'll take some time 21:54:52 <Wolf01> i can wait 21:55:32 <Rubidium> but you think it is stupid to wait 21:55:34 <Wolf01> but i don't want to be always after ttdpatch to develop grf features 21:56:27 <Wolf01> they want bigger eyecandy, we want more eyecandy 21:56:42 <Wolf01> and things like this 21:56:51 <Rubidium> there are features that were first in OTTD (with grfspecs) and later it became available in ttdpatch 21:57:08 <DaleStan> How will the current spec not allow more eyecandy? 21:59:00 <Wolf01> there is a limit on names, 512 different eyecandy 16^2 objects vs 2048 4^2 eyecandy 22:02:14 *** Neonox [~Neonox@p57B2AD83.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: bin wech....] 22:02:23 *** Bulb [~Bulb@145-119-207-85.strcechy.adsl-llu.static.bluetone.cz] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 22:02:53 <Rubidium> there might be a limit on the amount of textids you can specify in a single GRF, but creating _and_ defining 255 eyecandy objects in one GRF doesn't seem very limiting to me 22:04:23 <Rubidium> and then you can load about 50 or so grfs in one game, thus the GRF spec + OTTD amount of grfs you can load limit would come to 255*50 16*16 eyecandy objects 22:05:21 <DaleStan> TTDPatch will probably specify no more than 255/256 object types per game (so it only requires one byte of storage), but nothing requires Open to specify the same limit. 22:05:42 <DaleStan> *one byte of map storage 22:06:32 <Wolf01> if we won't respect the same limit, you will get angry because your grfs won't work 22:07:12 <Rubidium> what DaleStan says is that they will not load more than 255/256 eyecandy objects in a single game 22:07:16 <Belugas> reminds me.. Dalestan, newhouses a-la-OpenTTD allows up to 512 units. TTDPtch does not. DOes it means we'll have to specify it on the grf wiki? 22:07:58 <Belugas> to be part of the spe4c, i mean 22:08:37 <Rubidium> if OTTD wants to support 8000 eyecandy objects in a single game (via 30+ grfs) it does not need to bend the specs 22:08:59 <Rubidium> it will fail loading more eyecandy objects at a later time 22:08:59 <DaleStan> Belugas: It should probably be noted, but since the limit is above patch's limit, failing to note it is not a major issue. 22:10:06 <peter1138> really it just means the user can mix & match more sets 22:10:17 <peter1138> because no grf author will sacrifice ttdp compatibility 22:10:22 <DaleStan> And the same idea applies to new objects. If Open chooses to allow 65536 new object types in a single game, then Open players will be able to load more newobject GRF files than Patch players. This is not a violation of any part of the NFO spec. 22:10:44 <Belugas> wonderfull 22:10:49 <Belugas> thabsk and asee you 22:11:11 <peter1138> iir21:51 < Wolf01> but i don't want to be always after ttdpatch to develop grf features 22:11:15 <peter1138> err 22:11:16 <peter1138> -iir 22:11:25 <peter1138> but speaking of which... http://fuzzle.org/o/nc.png 22:11:25 <peter1138> heh 22:11:46 <Maedhros> so, so cruel :p 22:11:52 *** ProfFrink [~proffrink@82-43-58-81.cable.ubr04.croy.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 22:11:52 <peter1138> thanks to belugas for starting it all somewhere ;) 22:12:22 <peter1138> Maedhros: not really, cos you can't do anything with them 22:12:30 <peter1138> not until industries are implemented... 22:13:04 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@82-43-58-81.cable.ubr04.croy.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:13:04 *** ProfFrink is now known as Prof_Frink 22:14:34 <Maedhros> heh, true i suppose 22:14:43 <Rubidium> peter1138: not completely true, you can run the trains with gravel to the place where you are going to extend your rail lines ;) 22:15:28 <Rubidium> actually you'll run the gravel trains without gravel, but it's all about esthetics, right? 22:16:04 <peter1138> set GetVehicle(..)->cargo_count = .. 22:16:05 *** Thomas[NL] [~thomas@vdburgt.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 22:16:08 <peter1138> yay for debuggers 22:17:28 *** PandaMojo [~chatzilla@ip72-197-231-130.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:18:37 *** PandaMojo [~chatzilla@ip72-197-231-130.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #openttd 22:25:11 *** Osai is now known as Osai^zZz 22:25:28 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r8911 /trunk/src/vehicle.h: -Cleanup: fixup comments about the RoadVehicleStates and remove two unused enums. 22:28:25 *** ChrisM87 [~ChrisM@p54AC5D0F.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:29:15 <blove> It seemed that my idea about TileHeight was liked by at least one person, but others thought it was simply unnecessary. Should I take the time to re-submit without the language modifications? 22:30:51 <Eddi|zuHause2> it's not like that takes more than 10 seconds ;) 22:31:57 <blove> I meant, was the idea liked well enough to be applied, or would I simply be annoying and pushy by resubmitting an unpopular idea? 22:32:08 *** BJH2 [~chatzilla@e176122041.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.61 [Mozilla rv:1.7.12/20050915]] 22:32:25 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r8912 /trunk/src/rail.h: -Codechange: coding style cleanup and moving of two global externs into the functions that use them. 22:32:30 <Eddi|zuHause2> you got positive feedback, i would not care about the rest 22:33:08 <peter1138> nini 22:33:34 <Sacro> night peter1138 22:44:33 *** Thomas[NL] [~thomas@vdburgt.xs4all.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:46:55 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B81BCB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:49:20 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B80609.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 22:49:20 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 22:55:31 *** Rens2Sea [~Rens2Sea@213.211.185.168] has quit [] 22:58:02 *** michi_cc is now known as michi_cc-away 23:05:09 *** BFM [~chatzilla@CPE-203-51-1-248.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 23:23:45 <Wolf01> night 23:23:49 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host166-194-dynamic.58-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [] 23:25:33 *** nowhere [~sjoerd@ip54576152.direct-adsl.nl] has joined #openttd 23:26:01 <Sacro> lolman: prod 23:26:16 <nowhere> Hi, I have installed openttd using the .dev for ubuntu via package manager. Have also moved the required files from original. But now, how do I run it? 23:27:47 <Darkvater> what kind of a question is that? doesn't "openttd" work? 23:28:13 <nowhere> I can't find a file to start it with. 23:28:30 <Darkvater> did you try 'openttd'? 23:28:41 <nowhere> I thought maybe I needed 0.4.8 too but that doesn't seemed to be the case 23:29:04 <nowhere> hmm ok just typing openttd worked, sorry :< 23:29:58 <Darkvater> no comment 23:30:26 <nowhere> Using ubuntu since yesterday. :) 23:31:05 <Rubidium> sounds like ubuntu doesn't set it's paths as Debian does 23:31:45 <Darkvater> to my understanding it's installed globally and you just need to type the name 23:31:55 <Rubidium> what does /usr/games/openttd do? 23:32:21 <nowhere> It already worked. I was looking for some file to start it with. 23:33:43 *** nairan [~maui_key@p5498F22A.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:36:49 <nowhere> Strange the planes from purple player are yellow :) Linux feature? 23:37:32 <Darkvater> DOS files? 23:38:07 <glx> or 0.5.0-RC? with customised company colors 23:38:21 <nowhere> RC 0.5.0 yes. 23:38:52 <nowhere> and it are only the purple planes being yellow 23:39:00 <glx> you can set a different color for each vehicle type 23:39:04 <nowhere> for all other companies things look normal, and purple trains are purple too 23:39:47 <ln-> purple is the gay color 23:45:28 <Sacro> ln-: ironically, your nick is purple... 23:47:50 <ln-> it's not. 23:48:07 <Sacro> tis where im sitting :) 23:49:05 <ln-> you shouldn't sit there then. 23:49:28 *** orudge [~orudge@8afbfebe.resnet.st-andrews.ac.uk] has joined #openttd 23:49:29 *** mode/#openttd [+o orudge] by ChanServ 23:49:42 <Darkvater> ola orudge 23:49:54 <Darkvater> orudge: can you test 0.5 on gcc os/2? 23:50:01 <orudge> Hello 23:50:16 <orudge> I can't personally, but I can ask a man who can 23:51:07 *** jordi [~jordi@115.Red-213-96-69.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #openttd 23:51:07 <ln-> Good, we wouldn't trust the results if you asked a woman. 23:51:19 <jordi> hey! 23:52:08 <jordi> I wonder if Matthijs Kooijman is here. 23:52:21 <Darkvater> blathijs: ^ 23:52:26 <orudge> Right, will let you know, Darkvater 23:52:31 <Darkvater> thanks Owen 23:52:59 <jordi> Darkvater: excellent 23:53:02 <jordi> thanks 23:53:16 <jordi> blathijs: ok, so, hi! 23:53:27 <Darkvater> I wasn't saying he was active ;) 23:53:38 <jordi> i know. Maybe I'm lucky tho 23:53:42 <jordi> I just got an email from him 23:54:18 <jordi> hrm, where "just" means 2.5h ago. oops 23:54:19 <Sacro> Darkvater: he is never active, he just...apppears 23:54:52 <jordi> so he mailed me to say that 0.5.0 final is probably out RSN 23:55:14 <jordi> I've been talking to him about adding openttd to Debian, and have reviewed his packaging and so 23:56:12 *** XeryusTC [~irc@cc480157-b.sneek1.fr.home.nl] has quit [] 23:56:16 <jordi> I think it's ready to upload, but wanted to talk to him first about what his maintenance plans are -- I can sponsor him, but I do hope he plans to join Debian at some point 23:56:18 <Darkvater> yes I saw he added you as maintainer to the debian files 23:56:50 <jordi> ah, probably that's because I added myself in a patch I sent him (it's convenient so the tools don't think I'm doing non-maintainer builds) 23:57:23 * jordi digs his out of control mailbox for more matthijs email 23:59:57 <jordi> hmm, I see there was one question pending my reply. sigh