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00:01:31 *** odin_ [~odin@crous-heliotropes-214-179.u-strasbg.fr] has joined #openttd 00:01:34 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B8075D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 00:01:37 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 00:04:13 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1F8BE.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:05:28 *** odin__ [~odin@crous-heliotropes-214-229.u-strasbg.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:08:34 *** Fingon [~Catan@d54C4B07B.access.telenet.be] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:12:50 *** UFO64 [~UFO64@murrayjm8.umeres.maine.edu] has joined #openttd 00:20:36 *** snerfu [~brian@ip70-177-91-171.ok.ok.cox.net] has joined #openttd 00:22:27 <snerfu> hi, I am pretty new to ttd, is there a way to disable the computer player from building stuff, while I test things to see how they work? it like quickly builds all kinds of roads that makes it hard for me to build tracks around. 00:24:22 <Tefad> best is not to play with AI at all. 00:27:05 <glx> difficulty settings, set oppenents to 0 00:27:58 <snerfu> Thanks. 00:28:28 <glx> you can also block them in patches settings, competitors 00:28:39 *** KritiK [~Maxim@78-106-212-187.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:35:34 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [~johekr@p54B76388.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 00:40:16 <snerfu> ah, thats much better 00:42:03 *** Eddi|zuHause3 [~johekr@p54B76299.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:44:16 *** elmex [~elmex@e180066052.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:44:27 *** lobster_MB [~michielbr@5350C1C4.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 01:06:45 <snerfu> hmm i cant quite figure out what to send the goods truck to, the wiki says the town, but I cant click on anything when doing a goto. 01:07:13 <snerfu> none of the stations in town accept goods. 01:08:16 <Belugas> they will eventually 01:08:35 <SmatZ> bye Belugas 01:08:36 <snerfu> ahh ok 01:08:37 *** SmatZ 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OpenTTD: miham * r12861 /trunk/src/lang/ (17 files in 2 dirs): (log message trimmed) 08:53:34 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: -Update: WebTranslator2 update to 2008-04-24 10:49:17 08:53:34 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: brazilian_portuguese - 74 fixed, 2 changed by fukumori (38), tucalipe (38) 08:53:34 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: bulgarian - 59 fixed by thetitan (59) 08:53:34 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: catalan - 75 fixed by arnaullv (75) 08:53:34 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: czech - 70 fixed, 42 changed by Hadez (112) 08:53:36 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: danish - 46 fixed by MiR (46) 08:53:37 *** roboman [~Leo@c211-30-60-34.carlnfd4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 08:53:38 *** Singaporekid [~notme@cm243.epsilon123.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #openttd 08:53:39 *** roboboy [~Leo@c211-30-60-34.carlnfd4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:59:13 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@89.246.185.164] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:31:37 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@snat1.spoje.net] has joined #openttd 09:44:09 *** Volley 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[~fujitsu@c122-108-27-22.eburwd9.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 10:15:25 <Gekz> !seen Yorick 10:15:31 <Gekz> BOT 10:15:34 <Gekz> @seen 10:15:34 <DorpsGek> Gekz: seen [<channel>] <nick> 10:15:38 <Gekz> @seen Yorick 10:15:38 <DorpsGek> Gekz: Yorick was last seen in #openttd 14 hours, 26 minutes, and 56 seconds ago: <yorick> :D engineloop()? 10:26:00 <Sacro> how do i list all installed packages with apt-cache? 10:26:06 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-89-217-8-123.adslplus.ch] has joined #openttd 10:26:42 <peter1138> you don't 10:26:47 <Sacro> D: 10:26:50 <Sacro> how do i do it then? 10:26:51 <peter1138> you list installed packages with dpkg -l 10:29:13 <Sacro> ah yes 10:29:28 <Sacro> ooh 10:29:30 <Sacro> <3 dselect 10:30:02 <peter1138> dselect :o 10:30:07 <Sacro> yeah 10:30:11 <Sacro> now, how to start the sshd 10:30:12 <peter1138> ancient obsolete and hard to use 10:30:34 <Sacro> why do i have /etc/openoffice 10:30:37 <Sacro> where did that come from 10:30:43 <Sacro> /etc/openoffice/ even 10:30:43 <Gekz> lol 10:30:47 <Gekz> I'd hate to be your OS 10:30:52 <peter1138> do you have openoffice installed? 10:30:53 <Sacro> Gekz: why? 10:30:54 <Gekz> you sound like Frankenstein 10:30:56 <Sacro> peter1138: no 10:31:03 <peter1138> hmm 10:31:09 <Sacro> debian stable bass 10:31:11 <Sacro> *base 10:31:13 <Gekz> /etc/init.d/openssh start perhaps 10:31:13 <Sacro> + openssh 10:31:19 <Gekz> or sshd 10:31:21 <Gekz> its one of those 10:31:46 <Sacro> Gekz: do i have to copy it into rc3.d and rc5.d? 10:32:03 <Sacro> wtf 10:32:04 <Gekz> why would you 10:32:05 <Gekz> christ 10:32:10 <Sacro> why does it have portmap and exim startting 10:32:14 <Gekz> when was the last time you used any normal version of Linux 10:32:22 <Sacro> normal> 10:32:25 <peter1138> Sacro: it's part of a dependency of language-support-en :o 10:32:26 <Gekz> Sacro: because you havent told it to stop 10:32:32 <Sacro> pfft 10:32:37 * Sacro has never set up debian before 10:32:41 <Sacro> i've only used arch 10:32:44 <Gekz> lol 10:32:47 <Gekz> Arch is not the smae 10:32:49 <Sacro> it doesn't do anything without you telling it 10:32:49 <Gekz> not even close 10:32:53 <Gekz> no 10:32:58 <peter1138> they're default packages :o 10:33:00 <Gekz> debian is a just works OS 10:33:01 <Gekz> lol 10:33:14 <peter1138> apt-get install ssmtp; apt-get remove --purge exim portmap 10:33:14 <peter1138> heh 10:34:30 <Gekz> dont purge 10:34:32 <Gekz> thats mean 10:35:07 <peter1138> ... 10:35:12 <peter1138> you don't want its config... so purge it 10:43:44 *** mikl_ [~mikl@adsl.peytz.dk] has joined #openttd 10:43:44 *** mikl [~mikl@adsl.peytz.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:44:13 *** Mwa [~lexi@70.188-233-85.staticip.namesco.net] has joined #openttd 10:44:40 *** lobster_MB [~michielbr@bib-theater33.hku.nl] has joined #openttd 10:46:04 <Mwa> If you hit Fullscreen (r12751) in mac os x, a ghost of the cursor is left where it was before the fullscreen activated. 10:50:46 <Rubidium> oh Bjarni! ;) 10:52:54 <Sacro> OH BJARNI! ;D 10:54:35 <Rubidium> Sacro's a parrot 10:55:04 <Sacro> Sacro's a parrot *squaawk* 10:55:33 * Sacro flies off 10:56:15 <Rubidium> /part 10:59:04 *** ooo4tom [~tom@92.2.101.181] has joined #openttd 10:59:22 <Rubidium> Sacro fails as parrot 11:00:00 *** ooo4tom [~tom@92.2.101.181] has left #openttd [] 11:00:40 <Mwa> :p 11:03:11 *** roboboy [~Leo@c211-30-60-34.carlnfd4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:03:20 *** roboboy [~Leo@c211-30-60-34.carlnfd4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 11:12:09 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: rubidium * r12863 /trunk/src/ (gfx_type.h players.cpp): -Codechange: rewrite GeneratePlayerColour to be better understandable. 11:37:49 *** SpBot [terom@marttila.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:48:23 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: rubidium * r12864 /branches/0.6/ (21 files in 4 dirs): 11:48:23 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: [0.6] -Backport from trunk r12859, r12857, r12855, r12845, r12844: 11:48:23 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: - Fix: Make the town rating tests use less memory and much quicker (r12859) 11:48:23 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: - Fix: Usage of AutoPtr made (trying to) build stuff very expensive (r12857, r12855) 11:48:23 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: - Fix: Use YAPF for fairly old savegames from before YAPF was introduced (r12845) 11:48:24 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: - Fix: The industry tick trigger should only be triggered once every 256 ticks, not every tick... Also bail out of the triggers a little earlier if you know they are not going to happen anyway (r12844) 11:50:28 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B8075D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:52:17 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B80B80.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 11:52:18 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 11:56:29 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: rubidium * r12865 /branches/0.6/src/ (7 files in 4 dirs): 11:56:29 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: [0.6] -Backport from trunk r12856, r12809, r12808, r12637, r12574: 11:56:29 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: - Fix: Ensure that prop 25 is set for all vehicles in the consist before other properties as it could cause desyncs (r12856) 11:56:29 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: - Fix: Possible out of bounds array access (r12809) 11:56:29 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: - Fix: Enforce autorenew values range in command (r12808) 11:56:30 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: - Fix: Possible NULL pointer dereference when reading some NewGRF data [FS#1913] (r12637) 11:56:32 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: - Fix: Binding to a specific IP could cause OpenTTD to not register properly with the masterserver if one has multiple external interfaces (r12574) 11:56:49 *** thgergo [~Administr@dsl51B7A1B0.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #openttd 11:58:17 <Bjarni> Mwa: looks like you built a debug build 11:58:29 <Gekz> Rubidium: nice amount of fixes 12:04:12 *** SpBot [terom@marttila.de] has joined #openttd 12:05:53 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: rubidium * r12866 /branches/0.6/src/ (4 files): 12:05:53 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: [0.6] -Backport from trunk r12759, r12717, r12682, r12564, r12561: 12:05:53 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: - Fix: Slope checking for NewGRFs failed (r12759) 12:05:53 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: - Fix: Check the TILE_NOT_SLOPED flag of the _north_ tile of multi-tile houses to decide if autoslope is allowed (r12717) 12:05:53 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: - Fix: Removing road pieces from a town gave you twice the intended penalty [FS#1920] (r12682) 12:05:54 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: - Fix: Towns could not terraform when inflation rised terraform prices enough (r12564) 12:05:56 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: - Fix: Do not affect town rating change by the order in which we examine stations (r12561) 12:08:08 *** roboboy [~Leo@c211-30-60-34.carlnfd4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:08:13 *** roboman [~Leo@c211-30-60-34.carlnfd4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 12:09:26 *** lolEee [~lolman@82.132.136.207] has joined #openttd 12:15:52 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: rubidium * r12867 /branches/0.6/ (5 files in 3 dirs): 12:15:52 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: [0.6] -Backport from trunk r12706, r12642, r12622, r12572, r12542: 12:15:52 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: - Fix: Do not crash very hard on unrecognised savegames, just go back to the intro menu instead (r12706) 12:15:52 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: - Fix: Remove buggy buoys at tile 0 from old TTDP savegames (r12642) 12:15:52 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: - Fix: Infinite loop in case your compiler decides that enums are unsigned by default (r12622) 12:15:54 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: - Fix: min() has 32bit arguments, clamping of 64bit values did not work (r12572) 12:15:56 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: - Fix: Do not install scenarios into the current user's homedir when running 'make install', that is silly. Simply always install scenarios system wide instead (r12542) 12:16:28 <Vikthor> commit spree! :D 12:16:59 <Mwa> Bjarni, it's always done it since I started playing 12:17:05 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1D3EA.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 12:17:11 <Bjarni> hmm 12:17:21 * Bjarni has something to check then 12:17:26 <Bjarni> 10.5? 12:18:06 <Mwa> Yes 12:18:08 <Mwa> .2 12:18:27 <Mwa> Macbook first gen 12:20:35 <Bjarni> sounds like a bug in the 10.5 graphics driver 12:20:43 <Bjarni> it's different from the 10.4 one 12:21:32 <Bjarni> does it also happen in 0.6.0? 12:22:04 <Bjarni> I mean in the binary I released on sourceforge 12:23:55 *** lolEee [~lolman@82.132.136.207] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:26:28 *** Rexxars [~rexxars@85.19.218.110] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:30:56 *** Cap_J_L_Picard [~ewanm89@s15236362.onlinehome-server.info] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:32:50 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: rubidium * r12868 /branches/0.6/src/ (6 files in 2 dirs): 12:32:50 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: [0.6] -Backport from trunk r12795, r12776, r12683, r12681, r12678: 12:32:50 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: - Fix: Vehicles could break down during loading and keep loading. The intention of the break down code is not to break down when having zero speed, therefor break downs now do not happen when loading [FS#1938] (r12795) 12:32:50 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: - Fix: [OSX] In some rare cases when using an uncalibrated monitor the system colour space could not be retrieved. Show an error when this happens instead of just trying an assertion (r12776) 12:32:50 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: - Fix: In some cases a news messages would not be shown [FS#1906] (r12683) 12:32:50 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: - Fix: When a road vehicle has a tram only stop multiple times in a row in it's orders, only the first one would be skipped [FS#1918] (r12678) 12:35:05 <Celestar> :o 12:35:06 *** Cap_J_L_Picard [~ewanm89@s15236362.onlinehome-server.info] has joined #openttd 12:35:16 <Celestar> this smells like 0.6.1 at some point :) 12:35:27 <SpComb> bugs :o 12:35:46 <peter1138> and contrary to what people think, it won't have station animation, hah 12:36:35 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: rubidium * r12869 /branches/0.6/src/ (6 files in 2 dirs): 12:36:35 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: [0.6] -Backport from trunk r12714, r12708, r12674, r12577, r12553: 12:36:35 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: - Fix: Do not move windows below the toolbar on resizes unless they would go behind the toolbar [FS#1904] (r12714) 12:36:35 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: - Fix: Increase default sound buffer size only for Vista [FS#1914] (r12708) 12:36:35 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: - Fix: Colour remaps on station sprites only worked for company colours [FS#1902] (r12674) 12:36:36 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: - Fix: The convert signal button disallowed signal dragging when the signal GUI was closed (r12577) 12:36:38 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: - Fix: Redraw the signal GUI when the signal drag density changes in the patch settings and vice versa (r12553) 12:39:15 <Celestar> @openttd commit 12857 12:39:15 <DorpsGek> Celestar: Commit by rubidium :: r12857 /trunk (12 files in 4 dirs) (2008-04-23 22:16:41 UTC) 12:39:16 <DorpsGek> Celestar: -Fix [FS#1948]: remove the last uses of AutoPtr in the station code. 12:39:19 *** HMage [U2FsdGVkX1@vixen.shadowpanther.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:39:33 <Celestar> hm .. is AutoPtr that slow? 12:39:57 <Celestar> peter1138: one might think they've gotten behind the rationale of the release cycle ... 12:40:24 <peter1138> Celestar: yes it was 12:40:32 <Celestar> peter1138: weird. 12:40:40 <Celestar> peter1138: anyone know why? 12:40:44 <Celestar> or what? 12:40:58 <Celestar> I mean station building doesn't happen every other tick? 12:41:01 <peter1138> well the destructor was called 12:41:13 <peter1138> er... it does with the ai enabled 12:41:21 *** wleader [wleader@twleader.plus.com] has joined #openttd 12:42:02 <Rubidium> Celestar: it caused 68.51% of CPU in a profile 12:42:04 <Celestar> peter1138: because it tries to find a station stop, right? 12:42:30 <Celestar> spot I mean 12:43:58 <Celestar> it's a miracle we ever got this coding working on large map with > 40 trains :P 12:44:26 <Celestar> s/coding/code 12:45:03 <Rubidium> Celestar: a specific savegame takes in 0.6.0: 5:50; with 0.6.0 + r12684 it takes 0:55 (worth the effort?) 12:45:09 <wleader> Salutations (Good morning, evening, afternoon, whatever) everyone, I've just noticed a problem with the brazilian protuguese file this morning, but I don't know what I should do about it. Flyspray? 12:45:17 <Celestar> Rubidium: yeah I'm reading the thread and I was quite amazed 12:45:27 <Celestar> wleader: "a problem" being? 12:45:36 <Rubidium> wleader: known already :( 12:45:52 <Rubidium> but... please write a bugreport in the WebTranslator bug thingy 12:45:59 <wleader> URL? 12:46:08 <Rubidium> bugs.openttd.org, but project WebTranslator 12:46:13 <wleader> Ah, Will do. 12:46:45 <Rubidium> you need to 'switch' the project before clicking add new task though 12:47:28 *** HMage [U2FsdGVkX1@vixen.shadowpanther.ru] has joined #openttd 12:47:41 <Rubidium> HMage: no Cyrillic! 12:47:51 <Celestar> Rubidium: why? it works here without problems :) 12:48:26 <Rubidium> Celestar: well, I can't understand it 12:48:48 <Celestar> I can read it. I just have nft what the words mean :P 12:49:11 <Rubidium> it's like some person starting with a S from Hull saying things in other languages that are not appropriate 12:49:13 <Celestar> nfi even 12:52:12 <Celestar> @openttd commit 12684 12:52:12 <DorpsGek> Celestar: Commit by rubidium :: r12684 trunk/src/vehicle.cpp (2008-04-13 11:35:57 UTC) 12:52:13 <DorpsGek> Celestar: -Fix [FS#1891]: manually given service at depot order is not forgotten anymore when autoservice 'interferes'. 12:53:05 <Rubidium> Celestar: that fix *heavily* depends on about 20 or so prepartion patches before it 12:53:20 <Celestar> Rubidium: I see it 12:53:23 <Celestar> Rubidium: nice job :) 12:54:06 <Celestar> good to see that we don't fix performance issues by telling people to buy faster computers :) 12:54:31 <Rubidium> problem is that the computers aren't getting faster lately 12:54:38 <Celestar> not per core, no 12:54:57 <Celestar> well a bit, but not greatly 12:55:00 <peter1138> speak for yourself 12:55:15 <peter1138> my computer got faster ;) 12:56:38 <Belugas> that is called "catching up" ,peter hehe 12:56:47 <Belugas> somehting i should do myself one day or the other... 12:58:44 *** mindlesstux [~mindlesst@2001:470:88e0:53a:250:2cff:fe07:ff2c] has joined #openttd 13:01:15 <Celestar> me too 13:01:20 <Celestar> I'll get a new notebook \o/ 13:01:43 <Gekz> I'll steal it 13:05:13 *** lobster_MB [~michielbr@bib-theater33.hku.nl] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 13:06:04 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: smatz * r12870 /trunk/src/ (direction_func.h ship.h ship_cmd.cpp): -Codechange: remove some magic numbers from u.ship.state handling 13:07:36 *** dR3x4cK [~Miranda@p5499DA35.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 13:12:53 *** roboman [~Leo@c211-30-60-34.carlnfd4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:12:56 *** roboman [~Leo@c211-30-60-34.carlnfd4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 13:14:57 *** Mwa [~lexi@70.188-233-85.staticip.namesco.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:19:17 <Celestar> Rubidium: well I take my statement back. per-core CPU performance is improving 13:19:38 <Celestar> Athlon to Phenom has improvements. Core 2 Duo has improvements from 65nm to 45nm 13:19:49 <Rubidium> but not as significant as it used to be 13:19:56 <Celestar> that is right 13:20:02 <Rubidium> to the x2 per 18 months 13:20:12 <Rubidium> but maybe x1.1 per 12 months if you're lucky 13:20:24 <Celestar> because the number of cores increases dramatically 13:20:26 <Rubidium> the rest of the x2 comes from doubling the amount of cores 13:21:31 <Celestar> maybe at *some* point we can move *something* into another thread :P 13:21:59 <Rubidium> ... how many times has this been covered in depth in here and the forum? 13:22:09 <Celestar> hence the ":P" 13:22:21 * cjk slaps Celestar 13:22:42 *** cjk is now known as jengelh 13:22:49 <Celestar> jengelh: :o 13:23:24 <jengelh> dunno how long it has been, do you still run that pam_mount thing? 13:23:59 *** mikl_ [~mikl@adsl.peytz.dk] has quit [Quit: Connection reset by Peer Gynt] 13:23:59 <Celestar> jengelh: nope. running NFS4 with automounter. 13:24:03 *** mikl [~mikl@adsl.peytz.dk] has joined #openttd 13:24:08 <Celestar> jengelh: problem with samba at that point 13:24:12 <jengelh> what problem 13:24:43 <Celestar> of it not supporting kerberos auth if kerberos server != AD server 13:25:01 <jengelh> hm can't say if it's fixed now 13:25:16 <Celestar> afaik it's not 13:27:31 <Celestar> we've basically become one of the worlds first production kerberized-NFS4 implementation 13:28:08 <Noldo> interesting 13:29:35 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@89.246.185.164] has joined #openttd 13:30:44 *** SmatZ [~smatz@a40-prg1-5-107.static.adsl.vol.cz] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:38:42 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 13:38:45 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 13:40:39 <planetmaker> @openttd commit 12667 13:40:40 <DorpsGek> planetmaker: Commit by rubidium :: r12667 /trunk/src (6 files in 2 dirs) (2008-04-12 11:58:19 UTC) 13:40:41 <DorpsGek> planetmaker: -Feature: conditional 'skip/jump' orders. 13:41:05 <planetmaker> ^^ nice :) 13:41:12 <peter1138> old! 13:41:34 <planetmaker> Nevertheless :) Hidden away nicely... :P 13:45:44 *** GoneWacko [~gonewacko@adsl-58.36.Static.ssp.fi] has quit [Quit: You will never be the man your mother was!] 13:45:49 *** jp [~Miranda@dslb-088-064-181-107.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 13:47:23 *** Slowpoke [~Lobster@dslb-088-073-241-109.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 13:53:02 <jengelh> @openttd commit crime 13:53:02 <DorpsGek> jengelh: Invalid arguments for _commit. 13:53:40 *** Osai^zZz`off is now known as Osai 13:54:45 <hylje> mooninites commit acts of viral advertising 13:56:09 *** yorick [~yorick@s55924da0.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 14:02:08 <Belugas> hoo... the wonderfull art of whining : http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=37268&p=685225#p685225 14:06:41 <peter1138> hah 14:08:19 <yorick> I'm looking into the order share/clone system to see if I can return some more specific errors :) 14:12:30 <Belugas> arghh... conflicts! 14:13:09 <yorick> question: why do some strings have STR_...... with . being a number? 14:13:29 <glx> old strings 14:14:10 <glx> if you search the number in ttdpatch wiki you should bet the same string 14:15:21 <Belugas> so, basically, histercal raisins :) 14:15:36 <yorick> Can't copy order list: one of the orders to be copied is not compatible with new vehicle... <-- appears too long? 14:16:21 <hylje> hysterical reason 14:16:22 <hylje> s 14:16:35 <Belugas> prrrrrttt! 14:16:37 <yorick> thank you, btw :) 14:16:51 * yorick unstucks Belugas 14:17:06 <Belugas> Can't copy order list : incompatibility detected 14:17:44 <Belugas> fits well in french too, and maybe even in german :D 14:17:51 <peter1138> what happens when trying to copy orders from a bus to a truck? 14:17:58 <yorick> yes, that 14:17:58 *** roboman [~Leo@c211-30-60-34.carlnfd4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:18:08 *** roboboy [~Leo@c211-30-60-34.carlnfd4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 14:18:09 <yorick> if it has incompatible destinations, it fails 14:18:15 <yorick> otherwise, it just works 14:18:32 <yorick> airplanes have no checks (yet, I'm giving them) 14:19:15 <yorick> problem could be with shared orders, now I think of it 14:19:36 <yorick> you shouldn't be able to share orders with a helicopter if you're an aircraft 14:20:03 <yorick> or it should check on insertion as well as sharing? 14:20:27 <yorick> "if isn't compatible with any of the other shared vehicles..." 14:23:01 <yorick> just make it impossible to share between aircraft and helicopters (and busses and trucks, as is done now), or check on insertion if it's compatible with all the shared orderlist vehicles? 14:28:25 *** lobster_MB [~michielbr@86.89.201.189] has joined #openttd 14:31:41 <yorick> error detected: faulty comment at order_cmd.cpp:359! 14:32:12 <Roest> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=37296 i wanna know as well!!! 14:32:32 <yorick> how do you mean? 14:32:35 <yorick> what file 14:32:44 <yorick> what patching? what that? what openttd? what for? 14:32:58 <Roest> exactly! no more excuses 14:33:05 <Belugas> don't bother... 14:33:08 <Belugas> POST COUNT = 1 14:33:41 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: rubidium * r12871 /branches/0.6/src/ (12 files): 14:33:41 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: [0.6] -Backport from trunk r12819, r12818, r12759: 14:33:41 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: - Fix: Inconsistent use of 8/15-bitness of NewGRF callback results with respect to TTDP's implementation of the specification (r12819, r12818, r12759) 14:33:58 <yorick> what clear explanation? 14:34:50 <yorick> there he goes :) 14:41:31 <yorick> (new_order.GetLoadType() & OLFB_FULL_LOAD) && (new_order.GetUnloadType() & OUFB_UNLOAD) <-- I should thank the one who wrote this piece for the readability :( 14:41:49 <yorick> & > hasbits? 14:42:45 <Roest> i'm starting to hate opengl 14:45:15 <peter1138> you've not seen my blitter 14:45:59 <Rubidium> yorick: hasbits implies that all passed bits are set, which isn't needed in this case 14:47:09 <yorick> "#define HASBITS(x, y) ((x) & (y))" 14:47:23 <Rubidium> then hasbits is conceptually wrong 14:47:38 <yorick> Roest, you're blind, why do you hate opengl? 14:47:53 <yorick> you can't really see it, or play openttd, can you? 14:47:54 <yorick> :p 14:48:42 <Roest> go away 14:49:19 <yorick> :( 14:49:27 <Rubidium> opengl requires binary drivers on my laptop, therefor... it's bad ;) 14:54:29 <yorick> There was some 'mistake' in loading old savegames in 0.6.0 that makes it use the old pathfinder. <-- aaw 14:55:26 *** Zahl [~Zahl@p549F152B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 15:01:27 <yorick> G:\BoTTD\BoTTD\msys\home\ottdsrc\trunk\src\lang\brazilian_portuguese.txt:1824: FATAL: Invalid case-name 'f' 15:02:07 <Belugas> yorick: FOR_VEHICLE_ORDERS(v,order) -> FOR_VEHICLE_ORDERS(v, order) 15:02:25 <yorick> what changed? 15:02:44 <yorick> oh, space 15:02:50 <yorick> I just copied that piece over 15:03:10 <Belugas> bad yorick... 15:03:44 <yorick> bad example... 15:04:30 <Belugas> bad yorick, you should be as well aware of code style as of proper coding too 15:04:45 <Belugas> and yes, trunk needs a good cleanup here and there 15:05:15 <yorick> can't some #include "table/strings.h" includes be filtered, now there's a almost-full recompile if english.txt gets altered 15:06:46 <Belugas> haaa.... another patch subject? 15:06:54 <Belugas> man, you're ambitious :) 15:07:38 <hylje> well, a patch to change ottd to be something else than c++ is a bit ambitious indeed 15:08:01 <peter1138> delphi? 15:08:03 <yorick> java ports have been done 15:08:03 <jengelh> so what's *B*ottd? 15:08:11 <yorick> buildopenttd? 15:08:21 <jengelh> compared to? cottd? :D 15:08:34 <yorick> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=31823 <-- ? 15:08:41 <Belugas> Delphi, yes yes yes! 15:08:52 <Belugas> DOTTD 15:09:10 <yorick> ZOTTD, XOTTD, KOTTD, EduOTTD! 15:09:52 * yorick imagines it having a window manager 15:09:57 <yorick> a real one 15:10:33 <yorick> *openttd 8.04: featuring printer detection* 15:10:53 <Belugas> sounds like a good job. Open window, Close window, clean window... 15:10:57 <Belugas> no stress, nothing 15:11:02 <Belugas> i would like tobe a window manager 15:11:18 <yorick> *openttd 12.10: now with live cd!* 15:12:48 *** Digitalfox_Home [~chatzilla@bl7-180-128.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.81 [Firefox 2.0.0.14/2008040413]] 15:12:58 <jengelh> openttd 20.0: still counting. 15:13:20 <jengelh> just to highlight the ridiculousness of bumping major numbers early... 15:13:38 <yorick> every year a new number 15:14:23 <peter1138> openttd 0.6.0.405123 ? 15:14:29 <jengelh> you know, there is this "ah shiny new thing" feature everytime you bump the number 15:14:37 <jengelh> like, IE 4 -> IE 5 ("zomg! cool!") 15:14:45 <jengelh> but once the number passes like 12, it gets really boring 15:15:01 <jengelh> not limited to ie 15:15:05 <yorick> why isn't the cheat gui affected by the spinner gui one click as many bug? 15:15:16 <yorick> the only thing where you'd want it :( 15:16:08 * yorick is tired of clicking the date switching button 100 times to progress 100 years or clicking the money cheat buttons, which have another problem: they don't have nice click>lower effects 15:16:48 * peter1138 is tired of lots of things 15:17:11 <Belugas> hehe :) 15:17:20 <Gekz> yorick: lernu.net? 15:17:54 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-225-75.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 15:18:21 <yorick> why should I learn esperanto? 15:18:56 <Gekz> yorick: so its not you. 15:18:59 <Gekz> ok 15:19:13 <Gekz> there is more than one idiot in the world with the name Yorick :D 15:19:17 *** Singaporekid [~notme@cm243.epsilon123.maxonline.com.sg] has quit [] 15:19:39 <yorick> it's not even my birthday! 15:20:03 <Gekz> lol 15:20:13 <Gekz> my god, I want my braces back on 15:20:22 <Gekz> I got them off today, and my molars are stabbing me in the cheek 15:21:19 <Eddi|zuHause2> why does the name "jengelh" ring a bell? 15:21:56 <yorick> what does the conditional order do? 15:22:05 <jengelh> Eddi|zuHause2: you tell me. 15:22:09 <yorick> and how to use it 15:22:36 <Eddi|zuHause2> well, i know that i know it, but i can't place it 15:22:54 <jengelh> Eddi|zuHause2: do a google search? 15:23:08 <Eddi|zuHause2> that'd be cheating ;) 15:23:08 *** roboboy [~Leo@c211-30-60-34.carlnfd4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:23:17 *** roboboy [~Leo@c211-30-60-34.carlnfd4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 15:23:22 <jengelh> Cheaters always win ... (from a TF ad *sigh*) 15:23:28 <yorick> ... (I just typed lernu.h instead of lernu.net, my subcontiousness acknoledges that C is superior to .net!) 15:23:39 <jengelh> yorick: http://lernu.h/ ? :) 15:23:49 <yorick> yes 15:24:00 <jengelh> .hu perhaps :> 15:24:26 <jengelh> Eddi|zuHause2: ein Cheat in ehren kann niemand verwehren.. 15:24:53 <Eddi|zuHause2> the problem is that it's going to get a habit :p 15:25:53 *** mikl [~mikl@adsl.peytz.dk] has quit [Quit: mikl] 15:26:37 <Eddi|zuHause2> "exporting" the memory to google is going to backfire at some point 15:27:06 *** mikl [~mikl@adsl.peytz.dk] has joined #openttd 15:27:52 <yorick> my text editor has an option to reindent c++ code, which is quite scary 15:28:14 <hylje> just c++ code? 15:28:24 <jengelh> Eddi|zuHause2: if you cannot be bothered to cheat using google; if I told you, it would be cheating too, would not it? 15:28:38 <Eddi|zuHause2> yes ;) 15:28:41 <yorick> no, but it has a more advanced thing for c++ 15:28:49 <Eddi|zuHause2> i really need to work on my memory ;) 15:29:01 <yorick> other is just: {: move down one tab; } move up again 15:29:13 <Eddi|zuHause2> i only remember unimportant things :p 15:29:44 <yorick> such as 58? 15:30:12 <jengelh> Eddi|zuHause2: well what do you remember? 15:30:23 <yorick> someone told me to remember 58 once :( 15:31:39 <Eddi|zuHause2> i think it was about some package management stuff 15:31:41 <yorick> and I sometimes walk by a computer screen with a code on it needed for printing documents, and then remember the codes from people in front of me 15:32:32 <yorick> *scary* 15:33:04 *** LordAzamath [~questionm@ip41.cab22.ltln.starman.ee] has joined #openttd 15:33:27 <LordAzamath> Hello there 15:33:49 <yorick> hello 15:34:48 <yorick> hmm...how do shared orders work? by referenced ->orders? 15:35:08 *** mikl [~mikl@adsl.peytz.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:36:30 <LordAzamath> what do you mean? 15:37:13 <yorick> I'm doing something for shared orders on trucks an such 15:37:51 <peter1138> they're orders... and they're shared 15:37:55 <mynetdude> yorick, as in when you build multiple vehicles you can assign the same order to multiple vehicles? 15:38:19 <yorick> I asked for a more technical description there? 15:38:30 *** UserError [~User@c-98-202-77-105.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:38:32 <Eddi|zuHause2> read the code? 15:38:50 <Eddi|zuHause2> it's the canonical description 15:38:51 <yorick> doing that, but not sure if C++ has fancy references 15:38:54 <mynetdude> yorick, well I think the point is... you can already share orders when you clone vehicles???? 15:39:06 <Eddi|zuHause2> C++ has all kinds of fancy references 15:39:12 <Eddi|zuHause2> one is worse than the other 15:39:26 <Roest> mynetdude: try ctrl clicking the duplicate button 15:39:32 <yorick> also the can't copy object without wanting it specificly? 15:39:54 <mynetdude> Roest I did, thats how I get orders copied to new vehicles I create 15:40:13 <Roest> ok then n/m 15:40:37 <mynetdude> but what I am saying is, yorick seems to be reinventing the wheel if its already possible to share/copy orders 15:40:51 <yorick> NO I'm not doing that 15:40:59 <mynetdude> well then what is the difference? 15:41:01 <Roest> wouldn't hurt to have another wheel 15:41:11 <yorick> I'm just patching the code 15:41:18 <mynetdude> Roest only if the new one is better than the last? 15:41:34 <Roest> it's like saying, wouldn't hurt to have another beer 15:42:14 <Roest> if i don't make sense, i just solved my opengl problem here and am just happy 15:42:16 *** dR3x4cK [~Miranda@p5499DA35.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: dR3x4cK] 15:42:21 <mynetdude> yorick alright so you're patching code to make it so you can share/copy orders on vehicles that are not in the depot? that would be cool 15:42:39 <mynetdude> Roest oh you make sense alright :) 15:42:53 <yorick> no I'm not 15:42:56 <yorick> and you already can 15:43:05 <mynetdude> AFAIK it seems to me the only way to share/clone/copy orders is one of the vehicles has to be inside the depot for it to happen 15:43:23 <mynetdude> well I haven't seen a way to be able to do it outside the depot then 15:43:30 <mynetdude> but then I give up as well :P 15:43:47 <yorick> no 15:44:03 <yorick> http://wiki.openttd.org/index.php/Orders 15:44:13 <Roest> click goto, ctrl click on another vehicle 15:44:28 <yorick> not on its list entry, but on the vehicle itself ;) 15:45:38 <mynetdude> ohhhh ok, so on the new vehicle click goto, then click on the vehicle already enroute in the game world... ahh cool :) so tell me what is the point of your patch then? 15:46:04 <yorick> it makes it impossible for aircraft to get to heliports using shared orders 15:46:19 <yorick> because they have no use circling 15:47:06 <jengelh> Eddi|zuHause2: getting warmer 15:48:44 <mynetdude> that makes sense :) 15:50:03 <yorick> someone forgot adding a check for copy and share orders 15:51:53 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: peter1138 * r12872 /trunk/src/ (newgrf_engine.cpp newgrf_engine.h): -Codechange: Remove obsolete unused engine list order function 15:54:15 <jengelh> Is there a way to remove only one track of a railway station instead of the whole thing? 15:54:25 <Yexo> use the buldozer 15:54:47 <Yexo> or the shortcut R, after presseing the station build button 15:54:48 <Eddi|zuHause2> press "r" after selecting the station tool 15:55:22 *** HerzogDeXtE1 [~Flex@89.246.189.28] has joined #openttd 16:02:23 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@89.246.185.164] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:02:46 *** Osai is now known as Osai`off 16:04:07 <yorick> is it technically possible for a truck to be refitted to pax and the other way around? 16:05:19 <Eddi|zuHause2> nobody forbids that, afaik 16:05:42 <Celestar> "the other way round" being? a pax to be refitted to truck? 16:06:11 <yorick> a bus refitted to other cargos 16:06:33 <Eddi|zuHause2> yorick: imho you should not try to prevent copying the orders, just notify that the vehicle has invalid orders now 16:07:34 *** Osai`off is now known as Osai 16:07:42 <LordAzamath> bbyyee 16:07:50 *** LordAzamath [~questionm@ip41.cab22.ltln.starman.ee] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.81 [Firefox 2.0.0.14/2008040413]] 16:12:36 <yorick> ah, works so far, now adding same checks for roadvehs, so you could be sharing their orders as well 16:17:42 *** mikl [~mikl@83.73.236.143.ip.tele2adsl.dk] has joined #openttd 16:23:01 <yorick> http://pastebin.com/d29caaacd <-- why does it manage to completely ignore #include "cargo_type.h"? 16:23:15 *** Wezz6400 [~Wezz6400@145-118-108-75.fttx.bbned.nl] has joined #openttd 16:23:16 <yorick> don't mind the comments, btw 16:25:33 <yorick> wait 16:25:44 <yorick> CT_PASSENGERS != CC_PASSENGERS :( 16:26:53 <yorick> sorry for bothering :) 16:28:06 *** roboman [~Leo@c211-30-60-34.carlnfd4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 16:28:06 *** roboboy [~Leo@c211-30-60-34.carlnfd4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:28:14 *** Boyinblue0 [~admin@5ac37e79.bb.sky.com] has joined #openttd 16:30:07 *** SmatZ [~smatz@a40-prg1-5-107.static.adsl.vol.cz] has joined #openttd 16:30:47 *** mikl [~mikl@83.73.236.143.ip.tele2adsl.dk] has quit [Quit: mikl] 16:31:36 *** mikl [~mikl@83.73.236.143.ip.tele2adsl.dk] has joined #openttd 16:33:53 *** Boyinblue0 [~admin@5ac37e79.bb.sky.com] has quit [] 16:38:04 *** UFO64 [UFO64@john-michael-murray.um.maine.edu] has joined #openttd 16:43:51 <jengelh> Eddi|zuHause2: suse. rpm. ring a bell? 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18:04:36 <Eddi|zuHause2> yes 18:05:04 <yorick> airplanes can go into an unrecoverable state if they try to go to a heliport 18:05:09 <yorick> in which they keep circling above 18:05:33 <Rubidium> RVs too 18:05:46 <yorick> the order review system is for less significant stuff that's just annoying 18:06:35 <yorick> and now, you can't copy RV cross-type orders at all 18:07:12 <Rubidium> uhm... you can copy Bus <-> passenger tram 18:07:38 <Rubidium> and you can make bus stops that are not reachable (or tram stops for that matter) 18:07:49 <Rubidium> in which case they keep circling, like planes do 18:07:56 <Eddi|zuHause2> there's a lot of inconsistency 18:08:04 <yorick> yes, but you can just recover that 18:08:14 <yorick> the circling of rvs, I mean 18:08:24 <yorick> you can make the station reachable and such 18:08:41 <Rubidium> then make it recoverable for aircraft too 18:09:01 <yorick> I'm not into that aircraft stuff 18:09:11 <yorick> "voorkomen is beter dan genezen"? 18:09:25 <Rubidium> or rather, make aircraft just skip orders 18:09:54 <Eddi|zuHause2> still, i might want to cross-copy "incompantible" order lists, and then replace the incompatible parts with compatible ones 18:10:05 <Eddi|zuHause2> it shold not outright forbid this 18:10:17 <yorick> it does now 18:10:33 <yorick> "incompantible" :D 18:10:50 <Eddi|zuHause2> whatever 18:13:05 *** roboboy [~Leo@c211-30-60-34.carlnfd4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:13:59 <jengelh> Eddi|zuHause2: any luck with your memory? :> 18:14:23 <Eddi|zuHause2> jengelh: it's not going to get better :p 18:14:44 *** Mark [~M4rk@5351EE62.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:14:47 <jengelh> want me to help? 18:14:56 <yorick> huh? who are you? 18:15:32 *** M4rk [~M4rk@5351EE62.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 18:15:35 <Eddi|zuHause2> i'm already proud that i know that i know the name :p 18:15:35 *** M4rk is now known as Mark 18:16:06 <jengelh> you can try googling now. 18:16:15 *** lobster_MB [~michielbr@86.89.201.189] has joined #openttd 18:17:22 <yorick> hopto! 18:17:31 <jengelh> I changed the domain today. 18:17:37 <jengelh> it's just a dns anyway 18:18:05 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: belugas * r12874 /trunk/src/station_cmd.cpp: -Codechange: The closest town is already known. Do not search for it again. 18:24:26 *** Zahl [~Zahl@p549F152B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: (~_~]"] 18:25:28 *** mikl [~mikl@83.73.236.143.ip.tele2adsl.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:27:10 *** lolEee [~lolman@cpc3-leds2-0-0-cust55.leed.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:27:37 <yorick> Eddi|zuHause2, and how about sharing? 18:28:53 <Eddi|zuHause2> reduce the amount of special cases 18:29:21 <yorick> ? 18:29:49 <Eddi|zuHause2> means "handle them the same way" 18:30:21 <yorick> sharing just works fine now, (if can go there, make shared, and disallow new orders that are incompatiblewith any of the vehicles that share these orders) 18:30:44 <yorick> but I can't have shared orders that are not 100% the same 18:30:48 <yorick> it asserts on that 18:30:52 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: belugas * r12875 /trunk/src/station_cmd.cpp: -Codechange: Use defined const instead of cast magic 18:32:24 *** Brianetta [~brian@77-103-231-158.cable.ubr05.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 18:38:06 *** a1270 [~Cheese@24-117-88-79.cpe.cableone.net] has quit [Quit: The ending changes tone & is actually quite sad - but it involves a scene of necrophilia, so that's just another plus in my book.....] 18:38:07 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-225-75.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:41:05 *** svippy [~svip@cpe.atm2-0-78233.0x535a2072.boanxx18.customer.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 18:41:05 *** svippery [~svip@cpe.atm2-0-78233.0x535a2072.boanxx18.customer.tele.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:41:57 <yorick> 37 files that have to do with newgrfs in some way :o 18:44:08 *** a1270 [~Cheese@24-117-88-79.cpe.cableone.net] has joined #openttd 18:51:51 <ln> Bjarni!: http://kuvaton.com/kuvei/helpparitoimintaa.jpg 18:52:24 <yorick> when did he arrive? 18:52:54 <yorick> Bjarni! 18:54:15 <Brianetta> Robert Mugabe: One person, one vote. 18:54:15 <yorick> Eddi|zuHause2, http://bugs.openttd.org/?getfile=2777 18:54:16 <Brianetta> Him, his. 18:54:20 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-225-75.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 19:05:14 *** Zahl [~Zahl@p549F152B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 19:09:04 <Bjarni> <yorick> when did he arrive? <-- like 10 hours ago 19:09:23 <Bjarni> and no I haven't been looking at IRC for 10 hours 19:10:03 <yorick> have you not been looking at IRC for 10 hours? 19:11:16 *** Roujin [~Roujin@mnch-4d04ec11.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 19:11:57 <Bjarni> that's not what I said 19:12:08 <Bjarni> I said I haven't spent the last 10 hours only looking at IRC 19:13:41 *** Frostregen_ [SADDAM@dslb-084-058-098-148.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 19:13:41 <ln> did you say you had said you hadn't been looking at IRC for 10 hours? 19:15:18 <Bjarni> shut up 19:16:03 <ln> how rude 19:16:41 <Bjarni> I find this discussion pointless 19:17:03 <Bjarni> once in a while I looked at IRC today but I did a lot of other stuff too 19:17:08 <Bjarni> end of discussion 19:17:13 <Bjarni> new topic! 19:18:30 <ln> "end of discussion"! reminds me of the good old times. 19:18:50 <jengelh> Bjarni: Godwin's Law. 19:19:22 *** Frostregen [SADDAM@dslb-084-058-178-167.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:19:51 *** Frostregen_ is now known as Frostregen 19:20:03 <ln> Bjarni: i propose a new topic: Danish Formula 1 World Champions. 19:22:40 <hylje> six links to hitler from just about any wikipedia article 19:22:47 <Tefad> yup! 19:24:23 <glx> ln: it was "Period." 19:25:17 <Prof_Frink> Brianetta: How Pratchettsque. 19:25:57 <Bjarni> I just read something interesting. There is a case between IFPI (Danish version of RIAA) and an ISP because IFPI wants to block all traffic to the pirate bay. Now it turns out that IFPI's independent witness used to be on the payroll of the lawyer company that IFPI use in this case 19:26:21 <Bjarni> now it looks like they are going to lose their "neutral" witness 19:26:36 * Sacro snuggles with Bjarni 19:27:01 <Prof_Frink> Aww, bless 19:27:29 *** Roest [~ralph@p54B9E32F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 19:27:32 <Bjarni> the thing is the guy is a lawyer and knows that he due to his history can't be an independent witness yet he didn't inform of this 19:27:56 <Tefad> hah 19:28:18 <Tefad> i'll sue ya and take all of your money 19:34:55 * Belugas likes Rammstein's guitar sound 19:36:51 *** mikl [~mikl@0304ds2-ba.0.fullrate.dk] has joined #openttd 19:37:07 *** mikl [~mikl@0304ds2-ba.0.fullrate.dk] has quit [] 19:37:48 *** mikl [~mikl@0304ds2-ba.0.fullrate.dk] has joined #openttd 19:42:51 <planetmaker> @openttd commit 12856 19:42:52 <DorpsGek> planetmaker: Commit by peter1138 :: r12856 trunk/src/train_cmd.cpp (2008-04-23 21:55:24 UTC) 19:42:53 <DorpsGek> planetmaker: -Fix: Taking r12377 further, ensure that prop 25 is set for all vehicles in the consist before other properties. 19:47:34 *** Mark [~M4rk@5351EE62.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:48:04 *** KritiK [~Maxim@93-80-103-236.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 19:48:18 <Roest> **** *** ****** ***** 19:49:09 <Roest> belugas you should try the hammerfall guitar sound 19:49:38 *** lobster [~michielbi@86.89.201.189] has quit [Quit: AS A VAGINA ONCE SAID: <yorick> SOMEONE BAN HIM] 19:51:00 <Belugas> what's hammerfall? 19:51:37 *** yorick [~yorick@s55924da0.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Nine out of ten l33t h4x0rz prefer it] 19:52:26 <jengelh> @openttd commit HEAD 19:52:26 <DorpsGek> jengelh: Invalid arguments for _commit. 19:54:18 *** Roujin [~Roujin@mnch-4d04ec11.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:56:06 <Roest> http://youtube.com/watch?v=eiJPQG7osVw 19:57:32 <Belugas> mmh.. 19:58:10 <hylje> Hammers fall. Everyone dies. 19:58:28 <Belugas> i would not say i like it. it feels a bit too... sweet 19:58:50 <Belugas> but.. i have to adnmit, aint see it all 19:59:14 <Roest> that solo at 3:05 is pure genius 19:59:17 <Belugas> reminds me of queensryche sound 20:00:08 *** Mark [~M4rk@5351EE62.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 20:00:10 *** Mark is now known as M4rk 20:00:11 *** M4rk is now known as Mark 20:01:16 <Roest> and i hate you now, hammerfall is by far the best powermetal band 20:01:23 <Belugas> yup really like Queesryche 20:02:09 <Belugas> hey, i didnot said that i do not like the band, just the sound of guitar... 20:02:10 <Belugas> prrrrrt 20:02:13 <Belugas> quick gun 20:02:52 <Roest> wow svn checkout took like 15 minutes 20:03:21 <Belugas> Geoff Tate has a far better voice 20:03:31 <Roest> go away 20:03:40 <Belugas> no, true aqnd honest! 20:03:57 <Roest> btw what's flex/bison? 20:04:19 <Belugas> something that is not going to be in trunk :) 20:06:39 <Roest> care to enlighten me what it is? 20:07:22 <Belugas> iird, it's some king of interpreter, a bit like sqirrel 20:07:34 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: rubidium * r12876 /trunk/config.lib: -Fix [FS#1928]: gcc on FreeBSD does not support -dumpmachine. As gcc is not necessary for FreeBSD compiles we 'just' use g++ as that support -dumpmachine. 20:11:57 *** Roujin [~Roujin@mnch-4d04ec11.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 20:32:29 *** nzvip [~svip@192.38.109.188] has joined #openttd 20:34:24 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1D3EA.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 20:46:21 *** raimar3 [~hawk@p5489C35A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 20:51:02 *** dR3x4cK [~Miranda@p5499DA35.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 20:53:08 *** raimar2 [~hawk@p5489E053.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:04:19 *** Roujin [~Roujin@mnch-4d04ec11.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- The alternative IRC client] 21:06:21 *** __S4M43L__ [~Samael@138.117.54.77.rev.vodafone.pt] has joined #openttd 21:12:18 *** Roest [~ralph@p54B9E32F.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:16:46 *** Slowpoke [~Lobster@dslb-088-073-241-109.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 21:19:15 *** Roest [~ralph@p54B9E32F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 21:23:49 <Roest> http://icanhascheezburger.com/2008/03/03/the-greatest-job-evar/ 21:33:47 *** xahodo [~xahodo@xahodo.demon.nl] has joined #openttd 21:34:13 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-225-75.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:37:49 *** nzvip [~svip@192.38.109.188] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:40:57 *** michi_cc [fa23e9a94b@dude.icosahedron.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:41:37 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1D3EA.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Progman] 21:41:40 *** dR3x4cK [~Miranda@p5499DA35.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: dR3x4cK] 21:41:43 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1D3EA.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 21:41:48 *** michi_cc [4aa4f65ff0@dude.icosahedron.de] has joined #openttd 21:41:49 *** mode/#openttd [+v michi_cc] by ChanServ 21:42:00 *** __S4M43L__ [~Samael@138.117.54.77.rev.vodafone.pt] has quit [Quit: User pushed the X - because it's Xtra, baby] 21:44:49 *** thgergo [~Administr@dsl51B7A1B0.pool.t-online.hu] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:50:46 *** xahodo [~xahodo@xahodo.demon.nl] has quit [Quit: Goodbye.] 21:51:02 *** Roest [~ralph@p54B9E32F.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:52:35 *** NukeBuster [~NukeBuste@a62-251-21-79.adsl.xs4all.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:52:44 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: richk * r12877 /branches/NewGRF_ports/src/airport.h: [NewGRF_ports] -Change: Added names for additional BLIMP states. 21:53:01 *** Brianetta [~brian@77-103-231-158.cable.ubr05.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [Quit: TschÃŒÃ] 21:53:31 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: richk * r12878 /branches/NewGRF_ports/src/aircraft.h: [NewGRF_ports] -Change: Added test for IsEndTakeoffState to detect if any of the 4 takeoff states are current. 21:54:48 *** TinoM [~Tino@i59F55D7F.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 21:55:11 <jengelh> for a moment it read rickr * ... 21:58:18 *** Volley [~worf@84.119.65.133] has joined #openttd 22:04:27 *** NukeBuster [~NukeBuste@a62-251-21-79.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 22:12:01 *** Osai is now known as Osai`off 22:12:09 *** Zahl [~Zahl@p549F152B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: (~_~]"] 22:21:12 *** M4rk [~M4rk@5351EE62.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 22:24:07 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1D3EA.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:28:09 *** Mark [~M4rk@5351EE62.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:51:08 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@snat1.spoje.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 23:00:05 *** jp [~Miranda@dslb-088-064-181-107.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Quit: jp] 23:00:26 *** Bjarni [~Bjarni@0x50a46ace.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:17:13 *** Slowpoke [~Lobster@dslb-088-073-241-109.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:22:35 *** Slowpoke [~Lobster@dslb-088-073-216-075.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 23:29:30 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: truebrain * r12879 /branches/noai/src/ai/api/ (squirrel_export.awk squirrel_export.sh): [NoAI] -Fix: two bugs in $Id$ handling of squirrel_export, and one fix for future problems 23:31:34 *** ben_goodger [~ben@host217-44-221-99.range217-44.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 23:38:15 *** Digitalfox_Home [~chatzilla@bl7-180-128.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #openttd 23:38:16 *** [1]NukeBuster [~NukeBuste@a62-251-21-79.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 23:39:32 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: truebrain * r12880 /branches/noai/ (40 files in 3 dirs): 23:39:32 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: [NoAI] -Add: introduces ai_types.hpp, which has all NNNId like VehicleID. This simplifies the include-mess, and avoids including tons of _type.h for just a single typedef. 23:39:32 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: -Note: this is perfectly safe; when a type changes, any sane compiler starts complaining about redefining the typedef to an other type 23:40:57 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: glx * r12881 /trunk/projects/generate.vbs: -Fix (r12770): the check for missing header files could find more files than needed 23:43:23 *** lobster [~michielbi@86.89.201.189] has joined #openttd 23:43:42 <Sacro> lobster! 23:43:49 <lobster> quite 23:44:54 *** Slowpoke [~Lobster@dslb-088-073-216-075.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:45:28 *** NukeBuster [~NukeBuste@a62-251-21-79.adsl.xs4all.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:45:28 *** [1]NukeBuster is now known as NukeBuster 23:47:14 *** Wezz6400 [~Wezz6400@145-118-108-75.fttx.bbned.nl] has quit [Quit: Caught sigterm, terminating...] 23:47:38 *** NukeBuster [~NukeBuste@a62-251-21-79.adsl.xs4all.nl] has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <-] 23:50:52 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: glx * r12882 /trunk/projects/generate: -Fix (r12764): the check for missing header files could find more files than needed 23:52:07 <Eddi|zuHause2> <Roest> btw what's flex/bison? <- afaik it's a parser generator 23:53:17 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: truebrain * r12883 /branches/noai/src/ai/api/ (ai_bridge.hpp ai_object.hpp ai_types.hpp): [NoAI] -Fix r12880: move two own-defined typedefs to ai_types.hpp too 23:57:32 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: truebrain * r12884 /branches/noai/src/ai/api/ai_types.hpp: [NoAI] -Fix r12880: make doxygen happy by commenting on all the typedefs.. boy, what are those comments explaining!