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00:00:15 *** roboboy [~Leo@c211-30-60-34.carlnfd4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:00:42 *** JD___ [~chatzilla@R0dd8.r.pppool.de] has joined #openttd 00:03:59 *** Wezz6400 [~Wezz6400@145-118-110-195.fttx.bbned.nl] has quit [Quit: Zzz] 00:04:40 *** bowman [johanf@81-226-229-179-no59.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #openttd 00:09:19 *** divo [~asd@x1-6-00-18-39-d3-e9-f6.k899.webspeed.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:34:04 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [~johekr@p54B76923.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 00:40:31 *** Eddi|zuHause3 [~johekr@p54B760BA.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:45:00 *** lobster_MB [~michielbr@86.89.201.189] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 00:45:43 *** lobster_MB [~michielbr@86.89.201.189] has joined #openttd 00:49:34 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:49:35 *** [alt]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 00:49:36 *** [alt]buster is now known as [com]buster 00:53:41 *** Lakie [~Lakie@91.84.251.149] has quit [Quit: Night All.] 00:54:48 *** jni [~geetee@cs181040004.pp.htv.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:06:42 *** JD___ [~chatzilla@R0dd8.r.pppool.de] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.78.1 [Firefox 1.5.0.12/2007050813]] 01:11:14 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: glx * r13175 /trunk/src/industry_gui.cpp: -Fix (r13174): sorting criteria and order for industry directory was always reset on window opening 01:25:31 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-84-226-118-206.adslplus.ch] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:32:00 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@89.246.218.72] has joined #openttd 01:50:19 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: smatz * r13176 /trunk/src/town_gui.cpp: -Fix (r13153): town window was glitchy while opening 01:52:09 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: belugas * r13177 /trunk/src/ (terraform_cmd.cpp terraform_gui.cpp): -Fix[FS#2002]: Using level tool in scenario editor makes tiles brown. That is the only tool that does so in Scenario Editor (apart dynamite, of course).Report and Fix by Roujin 01:57:43 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: smatz * r13178 /trunk/src/toolbar_gui.cpp: -Fix (r13173): the main toolbar didn't respect patch settings, it was always positioned on the right side 02:01:56 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: smatz * r13179 /trunk/src/toolbar_gui.cpp: -Fix (r13173): r13178 applies to the main toolbar in Scenario Editor, too 02:02:01 *** SmatZ [~smatz@a40-prg1-5-107.static.adsl.vol.cz] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 02:04:21 *** jni [~geetee@cs181040004.pp.htv.fi] has joined #openttd 02:12:11 *** Gekz [~brendan@123-243-206-102.static.tpgi.com.au] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 02:16:58 *** Gekz [~brendan@123-243-206-102.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #openttd 02:18:51 *** Zahl [~Zahl@p549F2F8E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: (~_~]"] 02:28:30 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: bye] 02:33:36 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:33:37 *** [alt]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 02:33:38 *** [alt]buster is now known as [com]buster 02:54:17 *** Singaporekid [~notme@cm83.epsilon123.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #openttd 02:55:10 *** Roujin [~Roujin@p54973A30.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 02:55:22 <Roujin> are you devs still working?! oO 02:55:53 <Roujin> get some sleep, jesus! 02:56:43 <Roujin> awesome progress on the window OOification though! 02:57:11 <Roujin> and thanks for including that fix, Belugas ;) 02:57:30 <Roujin> nite! :D 02:57:35 *** Roujin [~Roujin@p54973A30.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [] 03:12:41 *** De_Ghost [~s@CPE001d7e66291b-CM0011aec4b06a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #openttd 03:14:10 *** a1270 [~Cheese@24-117-88-79.cpe.cableone.net] has quit [Quit: The ending changes tone & is actually quite sad - but it involves a scene of necrophilia, so that's just another plus in my book.....] 03:14:49 *** De_Ghosty [~s@CPE001d7e66291b-CM0011aec4b06a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:19:26 *** Frostregen_ [~sucks@dslb-084-058-177-072.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 03:25:09 *** Frostregen [~sucks@dslb-084-058-187-076.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:25:35 *** Frostregen_ is now known as Frostregen 03:25:41 *** a1270 [~Cheese@24-117-88-79.cpe.cableone.net] has joined #openttd 04:11:03 *** Frostregen [~sucks@dslb-084-058-177-072.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Quit: und weg] 04:13:09 *** Singaporekid [~notme@cm83.epsilon123.maxonline.com.sg] has quit [] 04:14:59 *** Aerandir [magic.powe@90-230-201-111-no37.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #openttd 04:48:54 *** roboman [~Leo@c211-30-60-34.carlnfd4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:56:30 *** roboman [~Leo@c211-30-60-34.carlnfd4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 05:00:28 *** Osai`off is now known as Osai 05:04:37 *** roboman [~Leo@c211-30-60-34.carlnfd4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:16:05 *** Smoovious [~imp486@c-71-205-140-67.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:45:40 *** Osai is now known as Osai`off 05:48:16 *** dR3x4cK [~Miranda@p5499E101.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 05:49:09 *** dR3x4cK [~Miranda@p5499E101.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 05:53:58 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-84-226-118-206.adslplus.ch] has joined #openttd 06:04:51 *** GoneWacko [GoneWacko@86-60-155-109-dyn-dsl.ssp.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:14:20 *** Phoenix_the_II [rdeboom@home.deboom.biz] has joined #openttd 06:15:09 *** mikl [~mikl@0304ds2-ba.0.fullrate.dk] has joined #openttd 06:15:09 *** HerzogDeXtE1 [~Flex@89.246.218.72] has joined #openttd 06:15:53 *** PhoenixII [rdeboom@home.deboom.biz] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:21:19 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@89.246.218.72] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:33:02 *** raimar3 [~hawk@p5489DA86.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 06:39:48 *** raimar2 [~hawk@p5489CB51.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:40:05 *** lolman [~John@cpc3-leds2-0-0-cust55.leed.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 06:51:18 *** mikl [~mikl@0304ds2-ba.0.fullrate.dk] has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 06:59:06 *** hams [~microzoft@124-254-77-18-static-dsl.ispone.net.au] has joined #openttd 07:12:24 *** lolman [~John@cpc3-leds2-0-0-cust55.leed.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:20:33 *** lolman [~John@cpc3-leds2-0-0-cust55.leed.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 07:27:43 *** snorre [~snorre@84.53.58.1] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:28:07 *** snorre [~snorre@84.53.58.1] has joined #openttd 07:50:12 *** mikl [~mikl@adsl.peytz.dk] has joined #openttd 07:53:44 *** Gekz [~brendan@123-243-206-102.static.tpgi.com.au] has quit [Quit: leaving] 08:06:00 *** Gekz [~brendan@123-243-206-102.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #openttd 08:17:04 *** snorre [~snorre@84.53.58.1] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:20:17 *** elmex [~elmex@e180067010.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 08:25:06 *** TinoM [~Tino@i59F54F7A.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 08:35:44 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:35:45 *** [alt]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 08:35:46 *** [alt]buster is now known as [com]buster 08:42:31 *** shodan [user@ppp101-219.static.internode.on.net] has joined #openttd 08:44:30 *** Volley [~worf@84.119.65.133] has joined #openttd 08:58:54 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-84-226-118-206.adslplus.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:03:50 *** hams [~microzoft@124-254-77-18-static-dsl.ispone.net.au] has quit [] 09:10:09 *** a1270 [~Cheese@24-117-88-79.cpe.cableone.net] has quit [Quit: The ending changes tone & is actually quite sad - but it involves a scene of necrophilia, so that's just another plus in my book.....] 09:13:43 *** a1270 [~Cheese@24-117-88-79.cpe.cableone.net] has joined #openttd 09:17:48 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: peter1138 * r13180 /trunk/src/town_gui.cpp: -Codechange: make a window class of the TownDirectoryWindow. 09:19:04 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: rubidium * r13181 /trunk/src/ (news_gui.cpp news_type.h): -Codechange: make news callback handling a little simpler. Patch by Cirdan. 09:24:16 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: rubidium * r13182 /trunk/src/ (misc_gui.cpp osk_gui.cpp rail_gui.cpp viewport.cpp): -Doc: add documentation to mostly rail_gui related functions. Patch by Alberth. 09:28:11 *** macd55 [~macuriel@15.Red-213-98-48.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #openttd 09:30:11 *** divo [~asd@x1-6-00-18-39-d3-e9-f6.k899.webspeed.dk] has joined #openttd 09:32:48 <macd55> hi all 09:34:36 *** mucht_work [~Martin@143.50.125.24] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 09:35:56 <Rubidium> morning 09:39:17 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: rubidium * r13183 /trunk/src/vehicle_gui.cpp: -Codechange: make a window class of the VehicleViewWindow. 09:41:36 <ln> isn't it supposed to be "Code change"? 09:43:29 *** dlunch [~dlunch@61.108.29.49] has joined #openttd 09:45:38 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: rubidium * r13184 /trunk/src/signs_gui.cpp: -Codechange: make a window class of the signs list. 09:48:21 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-84-226-118-206.adslplus.ch] has joined #openttd 09:48:59 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: rubidium * r13185 /trunk/src/ (39 files in 2 dirs): -Codechange: remove everything related to the WindowProc callbacks. 09:58:44 *** GoneWacko [GoneWacko@86-60-155-109-dyn-dsl.ssp.fi] has joined #openttd 10:00:33 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@snat1.spoje.net] has joined #openttd 10:11:44 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-84-226-118-206.adslplus.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:20:33 <Gekz> false compound words ftw 10:26:51 *** Gekz [~brendan@123-243-206-102.static.tpgi.com.au] has quit [Quit: leaving] 10:29:22 <peter1138> English is the new German. 10:29:33 *** Gekz [~brendan@123-243-206-102.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #openttd 10:33:05 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-84-226-118-206.adslplus.ch] has joined #openttd 10:38:12 *** Wezz6400 [~Wezz6400@145-118-110-195.fttx.bbned.nl] has joined #openttd 10:43:37 <Eddi|zuHause2> making up compound words is a high art ;) 10:47:14 <Eddi|zuHause2> where english forums have "word association games", german forums have "compound word games", where you start from a long word like "DonaudampfschifffahrtsgesellschaftskapitÀn" and make it longer by attaching new words to it that make more or less sense 10:49:10 <Eddi|zuHause2> http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/DonaudampfschiffahrtsgesellschaftskapitÀn 10:49:24 <Eddi|zuHause2> "Es wird gerne als Ausgangspunkt fÃŒr Wortspielereien wie die Ableitung noch lÀngerer fiktiver zusammengesetzter Hauptwörter wie DonaudampfschiffahrtsgesellschaftskapitÀnsanwÀrterposten, DonaudampfschifffahrtsgesellschaftskapitÀnskajÃŒtenschlÃŒsselloch und Ãhnlichem genutzt." 10:51:33 <Eddi|zuHause2> somehow there is no english equivalent to that page... 10:54:11 *** snorre [~snorre@84.53.58.1] has joined #openttd 10:56:00 *** Roest [~ralph@p54B9D267.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 11:14:40 *** SmatZ [~smatz@a40-prg1-5-107.static.adsl.vol.cz] has joined #openttd 11:17:12 *** Yexo [~Yexo@32-88-ftth.onsneteindhoven.nl] has joined #openttd 11:21:12 *** lobster_MB [~michielbr@86.89.201.189] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 11:37:28 *** dragonhorseboy [~dragonhor@74.58.26.147] has joined #openttd 11:37:34 <dragonhorseboy> any steam lovers in here? :p 11:45:10 <dragonhorseboy> guess not heh 11:45:53 *** GoneWacko [GoneWacko@86-60-155-109-dyn-dsl.ssp.fi] has quit [Quit: You will never be the man your mother was!] 11:50:31 <peter1138> try #steamlovers 11:51:05 <macd55> why? 11:51:56 <peter1138> there might be steam lovers there 11:52:33 *** dR3x4cK [~Miranda@d182.tum.vpn.lrz-muenchen.de] has joined #openttd 12:00:20 *** lobster_MB [~michielbr@194.171.202.29] has joined #openttd 12:01:12 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 12:01:15 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 12:02:49 <dragonhorseboy> is that a real channel? heh 12:02:52 <dragonhorseboy> (sorry was afk to eat) 12:04:26 *** dR3x4cK [~Miranda@d182.tum.vpn.lrz-muenchen.de] has quit [Quit: dR3x4cK] 12:14:48 * dragonhorseboy pokes peter1138 :p 12:15:33 <Eddi|zuHause2> what an exceptionally stupid question... 12:16:24 <peter1138> ... 12:16:28 <peter1138> you're awaiting a response? 12:16:41 <dragonhorseboy> eddi :p 12:19:46 <dragonhorseboy> peter...yeah why not? ^-^ 12:22:34 *** Roujin [HydraIRC@e199.tum.vpn.lrz-muenchen.de] has joined #openttd 12:22:40 <Roujin> greetings 12:22:47 <dragonhorseboy> hey 12:23:09 *** HerzogDeXtE1 [~Flex@89.246.218.72] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:23:43 <Roujin> congrats devs for successful OOification of the window system! (i guess it's done now?) 12:23:58 <dragonhorseboy> either way any idea on if canvas roof covered tenders were probably common in any country? 12:27:07 <peter1138> if pikka hasn't drawn it, no 12:34:27 <dragonhorseboy> hmmm ok should be fun to try make one (especially in small scale no less) just to be whimsey about it :p 12:36:23 <dragonhorseboy> will have to wonder what colour it should be tho 12:39:05 *** divo [~asd@x1-6-00-18-39-d3-e9-f6.k899.webspeed.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:39:24 *** Vessajono [vessajono@nikita.tnnet.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:46:33 <Eddi|zuHause2> i have never heard of canvas on tenders... 12:48:53 <dragonhorseboy> well if you're going whimsey I don't see why not...keeps the wood/coal dry from foul weathers :p 12:49:37 *** Vessajono [vessajono@nikita.tnnet.fi] has joined #openttd 12:52:18 <Eddi|zuHause2> dry coal/wood is only going to matter when heating up the fire, as soon as it is going, there's not much problem driving the water out of it 12:53:36 *** Roujin [HydraIRC@e199.tum.vpn.lrz-muenchen.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:54:01 <dragonhorseboy> well the reason I was thinking about this was because its a 0-4-0 with a tiny boiler .. basically just throw in one single log once in a while 12:55:24 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@89.246.218.72] has joined #openttd 12:55:30 <peter1138> would an 0-4-0 with a tiny boiler have a tender? 12:55:41 <dragonhorseboy> so I wouldn't think the fire could always be super hot with a small continous fuel 12:55:58 <dragonhorseboy> peter yeah 12:56:23 <dragonhorseboy> usually as a 0-4-0S-T to keep some more weights on 12:57:51 *** Zahl [~Zahl@p549F1EBF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 12:58:22 <dragonhorseboy> then again well not exactly related but there was actually one lima 2-truck shay built that had a quite small firebox and the headlight was as big as the front of the boiler! 12:58:44 <dragonhorseboy> seem the railroad asked for the cheapest shay possible and so lima built just that 13:00:46 *** Lakie [~Lakie@91.84.251.149] has joined #openttd 13:03:27 <dragonhorseboy> but anyhow this whimsey 0-4-0 is just going to be hauling one combine car, a stalked flatcar [fits almost any cargo heh], then finally a silly caboose :) 13:03:36 <dragonhorseboy> small train you can say 13:06:59 *** lobster_MB [~michielbr@194.171.202.29] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 13:13:43 *** Volley [~worf@84.119.65.133] has quit [] 13:15:35 <dragonhorseboy> I do have one another question out of curiousity tho.... 13:15:55 <dragonhorseboy> would gas/diesel boxcabs had been always with cabs at both ends or its possible to sometimes find them set up with only one cab end? 13:19:01 *** lobster_MB [~michielbr@194.171.202.29] has joined #openttd 13:22:19 <dragonhorseboy> here's something silly if you want to look hehe http://www.sormann3d.com/portfolio/TPpicture/TPgallery/touristrace.jpg 13:22:38 <dragonhorseboy> "driver" seem to have too much fun contrast to the passenger looking white scared :p 13:24:43 <dragonhorseboy> eddi any thought on that silly car or what? ;) 13:24:48 <Eddi|zuHause2> all driving cars i know have either cabs in both ends or were used in pairs with a cab in each end wagon 13:25:45 <dragonhorseboy> hm thanks eddi...I might try bash one of my old engine apart (motor still somewhat works but if I rebuild it) and make a boxcab out of that to match with the "little engines" theme of the 0-4-0 steamer :p (maybe just 2 axles for the boxcab too) 13:26:06 <dragonhorseboy> have thin balsa wood here to make the body with..just going be bit difficult to try cut it smoothly 13:26:37 <dragonhorseboy> oh yeah maybe two of them and one's named for a husband and other for a wife? *hehes* 13:26:44 <dragonhorseboy> always sticking together ;) 13:27:05 * dragonhorseboy is finding this whimsey layout idea too amusing that I wonder how long it'll take to finish the trains for it :p 13:27:49 *** lobster_MB [~michielbr@194.171.202.29] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:28:07 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-84-226-118-206.adslplus.ch] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:28:20 <dragonhorseboy> hope noone minds all of my talks ^-^ 13:28:29 <Gekz> shut up 13:28:31 <Gekz> ! 13:28:32 <Eddi|zuHause2> http://www.tt-oldtimer.de/Menue/Modellseiten/Triebwagen.htm 13:29:16 <Sacro> so, anyone able to tell me what top down debugging is? 13:29:57 <dragonhorseboy> ah nice eddi I've always kinda liked the VT133 bus 13:30:03 <Eddi|zuHause2> the opposite of bottom-up 13:30:17 <dragonhorseboy> that steam powered 2-axle railcar looks like one thing I maybe could try tho 13:30:26 * dragonhorseboy will have to see if I have tiny tubes tho 13:30:41 <dragonhorseboy> thanks for giving me yet another idea eddi :p 13:31:11 *** shodan [user@ppp101-219.static.internode.on.net] has quit [Quit: Client Exiting] 13:31:18 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-62-167-73-210.adslplus.ch] has joined #openttd 13:32:54 <Eddi|zuHause2> dragonhorseboy: if you scroll down a little, there is a steam driving car, which looks asymmetric, but it doesn't say if it has a driver's cab on the other end 13:34:33 <dragonhorseboy> I guess that if there was no cab to back up the train with ... someone has to get the poor conductor to sit on that end and radio back to the rear engineer :p 13:35:10 <Eddi|zuHause2> or get the thing on a turntable, like any regular engine... 13:35:17 <dragonhorseboy> true 13:35:37 <dragonhorseboy> I think there were a few 2-axle railbuses that had their own turntable plate on jack in middle of the chassis too 13:36:03 <dragonhorseboy> stop at last station...pull out of it a bit...get out and jack the thing then push it around -- done 13:36:27 <Eddi|zuHause2> how weird 13:36:38 <dragonhorseboy> oh yeah one of the train magazine I have for re B&O .. one of their station didn't have enough space to turn around a conventional bus so what they did was... 13:36:46 *** HerzogDeXtE1 [~Flex@89.246.218.72] has joined #openttd 13:36:52 <dragonhorseboy> they made a turntable to be able to turn the bus around in same manner as a train turntable 13:37:37 *** divo [~asd@x1-6-00-18-39-d3-e9-f6.k899.webspeed.dk] has joined #openttd 13:37:38 <dragonhorseboy> but anyhow eddi my layout would have a small wooden turntable on it so no need for "inboard turntables" anyhow 13:37:48 <Gekz> I demand attention 13:37:56 <Gekz> my girlfriend is asleep. 13:38:01 <Gekz> I got nothing. 13:38:49 <dragonhorseboy> well eddi I have to go (appoinment soon) but maybe if you're around we could talk in pm? your call tho 13:38:57 <dragonhorseboy> bye till next time ^-^ 13:39:00 *** dragonhorseboy [~dragonhor@74.58.26.147] has left #openttd [] 13:40:39 <Eddi|zuHause2> what a strange person... he might be lacking some "real world" friends and need compensation... 13:41:46 <peter1138> well he's a fur 13:42:28 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@89.246.218.72] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:46:56 *** Osai`off is now known as Osai 13:57:21 *** Zahl [~Zahl@p549F1EBF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: (~_~]"] 13:58:17 <Eddi|zuHause2> ah german grammar is so great :p http://german-bash.org/action/show/id/180797 13:58:51 <Gekz> no 13:58:53 <Gekz> it r not 13:59:03 <Gekz> it hurts actually 14:00:35 <murr4y> it's a bit scary 14:01:40 *** welterde [welterde@gandalf.srv.welterde.de] has joined #openttd 14:07:17 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: truebrain * r13186 /branches/noai/src/ai/api/ai_tile.cpp: [NoAI] -Fix: RaiseTile and LowerTile can now operate on water-tiles. Use with care! 14:10:07 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1F005.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 14:11:23 <Sacro> :o 14:11:25 <Sacro> truebrain 14:11:38 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: truebrain * r13187 /branches/noai/ (16 files in 4 dirs): 14:11:38 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: [NoAI] -Codechange: rewrote the AI register part; C++ AIs are completely 14:11:38 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: impossible now, and registration happens directly via AISquirrel. 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what does it make more realistic? 17:24:28 <JD___> OTTD 0.6.0 17:26:11 <Sacro> 1 17:26:21 <Ammler> 10 17:26:31 <JD___> ;P 17:28:52 <hylje> 100 17:30:35 <Arie-> pi 17:32:32 *** LordAzamath [~questionm@ip41.cab22.ltln.starman.ee] has joined #openttd 17:32:49 <murr4y> 1337 17:33:09 <LordAzamath> hey 17:33:10 <LordAzamath> leet 17:33:41 <Arie-> 9.8 if you want to simulate gravity perfect, or pi if you want to go easy around the corners, for exponential acceleration i'd recommend euler 17:33:56 <hylje> what's that for magic numbers 17:35:42 <Prof_Frink> Set the weight multiplier to 0 if you want to have enchanted trains of holding 17:35:58 *** mode/#openttd [+v orudge] by ChanServ 17:36:01 *** mode/#openttd [+v peter1138] by ChanServ 17:36:06 <JD___> sure, pals. :) i see, nobody has a clue; just found a diskussion in the forums where people argue about the fact that only some freights are multiplied - so passenger trains go too fast in comparison. 17:36:48 <Prof_Frink> That's the idea. 17:37:03 <Prof_Frink> Well, the idea was that freight trains accelerated too fast 17:37:36 *** LordAzamath is now known as LA 17:37:50 *** LA is now known as LordAzamath 17:40:06 *** Nuke2 [~NukeBuste@a62-251-21-79.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 17:40:10 *** Nuke2 [~NukeBuste@a62-251-21-79.adsl.xs4all.nl] has quit [] 17:41:38 *** Boyinblue0 [~admin@5ac37ec0.bb.sky.com] has joined #openttd 17:42:46 *** nicfer [~chatzilla@168.226.104.54] has joined #openttd 17:45:54 *** LordAzamath is now known as LA 17:49:16 <glx> passengers are not freight 17:49:50 <JD___> yesterday, i played some hours and two AI players did okay - making some money, one of them nearly 300000 bucks a year. but in firm overview its worth was 5 dollars...?! the other AI player the same while my firm was something like 3 million bucks worth. what went wrong here? 17:50:12 <glx> AI don't repay loan 17:50:27 *** mikl [~mikl@0304ds2-ba.0.fullrate.dk] has joined #openttd 17:50:36 *** Volley [~worf@84.119.65.133] has quit [] 17:51:41 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-4d00ab4c.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 17:52:28 *** Brianetta [~brian@77-103-231-158.cable.ubr05.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 18:02:06 *** lolman [~john@cpc3-leds2-0-0-cust55.leed.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 18:06:33 *** henkie [not@tdlnx.student.utwente.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:07:45 *** LA [~questionm@ip41.cab22.ltln.starman.ee] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.82.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.14/2008040413]] 18:09:09 *** lolman [~john@cpc3-leds2-0-0-cust55.leed.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:09:40 *** Bjarni [~Bjarni@62.243.161.6] has joined #openttd 18:09:43 *** mode/#openttd [+o Bjarni] by ChanServ 18:10:46 *** mikl [~mikl@0304ds2-ba.0.fullrate.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:16:24 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B80149.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:16:51 *** Mucht [~Martin@chello080109200215.3.sc-graz.chello.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:18:13 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B82787.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 18:18:14 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 18:30:32 *** Phoenix_the_II [rdeboom@home.deboom.biz] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 18:39:57 *** Purno [~Purno@5357D37C.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 18:40:45 *** lobster_MB [~michielbr@86.89.201.189] has joined #openttd 18:52:55 *** Roujin [~Roujin@mnch-4d04f2dd.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 18:53:13 <Roujin> greetings 18:53:23 <Bjarni> hello 18:55:12 <Roujin> I said it already but I'll say it again: great work on the windows ;) 19:07:46 *** dragonhorseboy [~dragonhor@modemcable147.26-58-74.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #openttd 19:07:59 <dragonhorseboy> any of you know well about DB/DR freights? 19:13:19 <Bjarni> if you have a question then ask and see if anybody replies ;) 19:14:16 <dragonhorseboy> heh bjarni you know what that speciality train was called.. made up of basically what looked like several flatcars with the two end ones having drivers' cabs? 19:14:24 <dragonhorseboy> I know it was either DB or DR but don't remember which 19:14:34 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [~johekr@p54B76923.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:14:58 <SmatZ> Roujin: nice to see someone that happy because of that work :) 19:15:16 <peter1138> yeah... did it really change anything? :p 19:15:25 <SmatZ> :-) 19:15:37 <Roujin> well i have to rewrite my patch due to the changes xD 19:16:18 <Bjarni> dragonhorseboy: do you have any idea of the age of that thing? 19:16:19 <Roujin> but anyways i'm impressed by how fluid that change happened, i think that it's quite a feat :) 19:17:13 <dragonhorseboy> bjarni...several years perhaps for I do remember lgb making a version of it for their toytrain series lineup 19:17:27 <Roujin> and, while it really doesn't change anything for the players, it does change a lot for the people interested in the code and patching and so on ;) 19:18:08 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: smatz * r13191 /trunk/src/ (misc_gui.cpp textbuf_gui.h): -Fix: segfault after confirming query subwindow in the Generate New World window 19:18:15 *** Frostregen [~sucks@dslb-084-058-177-072.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Quit: und weg] 19:18:36 <Bjarni> dragonhorseboy: http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix_frameset.html <-- try to look at this page and see if you can find what you are looking for 19:18:46 <Bjarni> as I'm not really sure what train you mean .s 19:18:56 <Bjarni> but it sounds interesting 19:22:12 *** KritiK [~Maxim@78.107.163.142] has joined #openttd 19:22:15 <peter1138> 18 year old swedish nymphomaniacs knocking on my door sounds interesting 19:22:43 <dragonhorseboy> hm 'diesel' list didn't have anything but it suggested to also look in dmu too and would you know what..there's a >dmu>freight> folder and I found it :p 19:23:00 <dragonhorseboy> bjarni here's the real deal: http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/de/diesel/dmu/freight/1D9C03A0-3060-43F8-BEF9-27E21464CB5A.jpg 19:23:16 <dragonhorseboy> cab roof seem shaped to match with containers I think? 19:23:55 <Bjarni> it sure looks like it 19:24:04 <dragonhorseboy> hmm modelling one of these could be an interesting challenge...only enough room to put motor in cab to power front truck alone (maybe with some lead weight in all empty spaces to help) 19:24:13 <dragonhorseboy> :p 19:24:47 <Bjarni> hmm 19:24:51 <dragonhorseboy> hmm hey wait... 19:24:53 <Bjarni> you want to make a model of it? 19:25:16 <Bjarni> btw you have the name now 19:25:17 <Bjarni> Fahrzeug 690 004-7 (Cargo-Sprinter) 19:25:22 <dragonhorseboy> if you went whimsey you could just make 2-axle versions (short containers or loose crates only) and "steal" truck axles to power it ;) 19:25:31 *** Roest [~ralph@p54B9D267.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 19:25:50 <dragonhorseboy> bjarni heh well kinda .. just looking for photos of not-your-average-trains for some ideas 19:26:12 <dragonhorseboy> only going to actually make two or several different one..only can run so much on a small layout you know 19:27:27 <Bjarni> modelling this one shouldn't be too tricky 19:27:37 <dragonhorseboy> peter1138 dunno if you're still interested but see http://images5.fotopic.net/?iid=ytkxun&outx=800&quality=70 on how silly small a whimsey boiler can get :) 19:28:00 <dragonhorseboy> probably only good for 10-20km/h with two carts but who cares 19:28:14 <dragonhorseboy> bjarni true..just bash an old flatcar apart :D 19:28:21 <dragonhorseboy> bjarni heheh 19:28:35 *** thgergo [~Administr@dsl51B7882B.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #openttd 19:28:49 <dragonhorseboy> bjarni you know of the VT133 railcar or no? 19:29:17 <Bjarni> I'm not an expert on German rolling stock 19:29:50 <peter1138> that's not a boiler 19:29:52 <peter1138> that's a kettle 19:31:54 <dragonhorseboy> bjarni ah..well the VT133 is this http://www.haertle.de/images/030-22660-320x320.jpg (same nose at both ends) 19:32:46 <dragonhorseboy> but anyhow one idea for someone could be that a poor railroad's version of the VT133 could be to cut two school buses apart and weld the two fronts together then replace the drivetrain with one traction motor 19:32:54 <Bjarni> looks like something from the 30s or 40s 19:33:21 <dragonhorseboy> not to say I'll actually try that idea..I'm actually after freight trains for now (for operational interest purpose) 19:33:43 <Bjarni> dragonhorseboy: what are you doing right now? 19:34:04 <dragonhorseboy> bjarni...again..just looking up photos :p .. but I'm already working on a whimsey 0-4-0's tender ;) 19:34:31 <Bjarni> working on for what? 19:34:36 <Bjarni> model railroad or grf or? 19:34:39 <dragonhorseboy> model railroad 19:35:15 <dragonhorseboy> photos due when its completed of course (was going share it on one forum that does whimsey modelling anyway) :) 19:36:02 <dragonhorseboy> peter..re it being a kettle..heh yeah I guess it could produce a lot of hot water for coffees when its not going anywhere yet :p 19:36:56 <dragonhorseboy> there are some gas/diesels that are just as tiny 19:38:44 <dragonhorseboy> bjarni the first model I'm trying to do is a little 0-4-0 converted with rear cab well removed and a covered wooden 2-axle tender added via drawbar then to try weather the thing a bit (maybe paint buffers to red instead too) 19:39:07 <dragonhorseboy> :) 19:39:17 <dragonhorseboy> well=wall* 19:39:32 <dragonhorseboy> its got no bunker or anything so doesn't quite look good as it is right now 19:40:24 <dragonhorseboy> if you wanted to ask bjarni here's one retail photo of the trainset: http://www.buynscale.com/blwphotos/KA-Pocket.JPG 19:40:45 <dragonhorseboy> I'll probably redo the coach roofs to look more like the american old west ones 19:41:37 <dragonhorseboy> (don't mind the 'belly' the cars have, its because one of these contains the motor .. kato couldn't figure how to fit it inside engine I guess) 19:43:37 <dragonhorseboy> bjarni mind pm? 19:44:23 <Bjarni> no 19:44:27 <ln> mind waves? 19:44:36 <dragonhorseboy> ln :p 19:44:45 <Bjarni> if they are same, that is :) 19:54:46 *** Osai`off is now known as Osai 20:10:17 *** Frostregen [~sucks@dslb-084-058-177-072.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 20:10:51 <ln> http://naurunappula.com/295436/Only_in_Saudi_Arabia 20:12:31 *** Zahl [~Zahl@p549F1EBF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: (~_~]"] 20:17:16 *** Zahl [~Zahl@p549F1EBF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 20:21:19 *** dR3x4cK [~Miranda@p5499F6DD.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: dR3x4cK] 20:21:57 *** Osai is now known as Osai`off 20:25:57 *** [1]Roujin [~Roujin@mnch-4d04f2dd.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 20:29:36 *** Osai`off is now known as Osai 20:31:58 *** Roujin [~Roujin@mnch-4d04f2dd.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:34:04 *** Frostregen [~sucks@dslb-084-058-177-072.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Quit: und weg] 20:45:54 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B751F4.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 20:55:20 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-4d00ab4c.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:59:53 <SmatZ> @seen Zahl 20:59:53 <DorpsGek> SmatZ: Zahl was last seen in #openttd 2 weeks, 6 days, 14 hours, 35 minutes, and 28 seconds ago: <Zahl> openttd support in xfire? nice one :-D 21:06:39 <Eddi|zuHause> @seen Buchstabe 21:06:39 <DorpsGek> Eddi|zuHause: I have not seen Buchstabe. 21:07:41 <SmatZ> :-) 21:08:07 <Bjarni> @seen SmatZ 21:08:07 <DorpsGek> Bjarni: SmatZ was last seen in #openttd 26 seconds ago: <SmatZ> :-) 21:08:17 <Bjarni> looks like he were happy at the time 21:08:37 <SmatZ> :-D 21:08:39 <[1]Roujin> @seen DorpsGek 21:08:39 <DorpsGek> [1]Roujin: I have not seen DorpsGek. 21:08:42 <SmatZ> !stats 21:08:51 <SmatZ> are there any stats of this channel? 21:08:59 <Bjarni> @stats 21:08:59 <DorpsGek> Bjarni: I have 6 registered users with 6 registered hostmasks; 1 owner and 0 admins. 21:09:09 <Bjarni> not those stats :P 21:09:16 <SpComb> Logs: http://zapotek.paivola.fi/~terom/logs/openttd 21:09:16 <SmatZ> !logs 21:09:18 <SmatZ> @logs 21:09:32 <SmatZ> http://zapotek.paivola.fi/~terom/logs/openttd/stats :-) 21:10:59 <SpComb> "Statistics generated on Sunday 27 April 2008 - 8:15:10 " 21:11:25 <SmatZ> hmm yes, a bit outdated :-/ 21:11:32 <Eddi|zuHause> SmatZ: afaik "official" stats were stopped with the death of _42_ 21:12:12 <Eddi|zuHause> apparently that feature wasn't ported to DorpsGek 21:12:27 <SmatZ> _42_ is still alive, but why isn't she here? 21:12:41 <SmatZ> or it was replaced by DorpsGek ? 21:13:01 <Eddi|zuHause> there were... disputed opinions... 21:14:16 *** [1]Roujin [~Roujin@mnch-4d04f2dd.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <-] 21:15:32 <Bjarni> I like how the two first lines from the stats are actually from the same conversation (which were not even that long) 21:16:53 <SmatZ> "Roest, that SirXavius can just blabla and die" 21:17:01 <SmatZ> I wonder what Belugas was talking about :-D 21:17:14 <Roest> lol 21:17:51 <Roest> i think he called belugas insulting and condescending 21:18:00 <SmatZ> :-) 21:18:36 <glx> and probably the wrong day ;) 21:23:51 *** Boyinblue0 [~admin@5ac37ec0.bb.sky.com] has quit [] 21:26:10 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1F005.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:26:37 *** Roest [~ralph@p54B9D267.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:34:49 <Digitalfox> @seen LordAzamath 21:34:49 <DorpsGek> Digitalfox: LordAzamath was last seen in #openttd 4 hours, 1 minute, and 38 seconds ago: <LordAzamath> leet 21:35:52 * Digitalfox would like to know how much LordAzamath has progressed in the GRF GUI coding :\ 21:40:57 <Bjarni> he didn't progress at all 21:41:08 <Bjarni> otherwise he would have showed up here and told about it 21:41:28 <Ammler> we disturbed him with wwottdgd 21:41:42 <Bjarni> shame on you 21:41:51 <Ammler> yeah, really sorry about that :P 21:42:17 <Ammler> he made a advertising banner, which we can't include in TT-Forums :-) 21:44:33 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:44:45 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 21:48:02 <Zahl> whutsagoinoninhere? 21:49:27 <Sacro> an orgy 21:49:37 <Touqen> unf unf unf 21:49:52 <Zahl> just what i thought! 21:50:12 <Zahl> @seen SmatZ 21:50:12 <DorpsGek> Zahl: SmatZ was last seen in #openttd 32 minutes and 12 seconds ago: <SmatZ> :-) 21:50:30 <SmatZ> zomg 32 minutes and 12 seconds! 21:51:34 <Zahl> thats some long time 21:52:00 * Rubidium rather likes that time that Prof_Frink @seen-ed Bjarni 21:52:16 <Zahl> Rubidium: tell me everything about it :-) 21:52:29 <Zahl> dont leave out any details 21:52:36 <Rubidium> 21:27 <@DorpsGek> Prof_Frink: Bjarni was last seen in #openttd 1 day, 0 hours, and 0 seconds ago: <Bjarni> the thing is the guy is a lawyer and knows that he due to his history can't be an independent witness yet he didn't inform of this 21:53:15 <Rubidium> no minutes! 21:53:26 <Zahl> wow, perfect timing 21:53:34 <Bjarni> I member saying that 21:54:12 <Zahl> so you didn't reboot since that 21:54:24 *** dlunch [~dlunch@61.108.29.49] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:54:29 <Bjarni> the guy is a lawyer and is used as an independent witness in court but somebody found out that he used to work for the company suing so the independent part goes down the drain 21:55:06 <Bjarni> the case is about the copyright holders wanting an ISP to block access to the pirate bay 21:55:27 <Zahl> ah 21:56:44 *** Osai is now known as Osai^zZz 21:57:25 <Bjarni> funny thing is that the ISP blocked access and somebody found an way around the block and then people went to see what was blocked so it actually increased traffic 21:58:11 <Bjarni> and now all the ISPs joined together and wants to get the court to declare that they aren't supposed to block sites 21:58:53 <Bjarni> they do block sites with child pornography though but they just block whatever the police tell them to and they all block the same sites 21:59:09 *** dragonhorseboy [~dragonhor@modemcable147.26-58-74.mc.videotron.ca] has left #openttd [] 21:59:21 <Bjarni> the case about the pirate bay is that ONE ISP should block it but nothing about the other ISPs :s 22:00:20 <SmatZ> Bjarni: do you remember that exactly, or are you copying from logs? 22:00:27 <Sacro> Bjarni is a bot 22:00:37 <Sacro> he isn't turing complete 22:00:40 <Bjarni> <Zahl> so you didn't reboot since that <-- I did... several times... I mean I can remember when I wrote it... the computer can't (not without actually opening the log file) 22:01:01 <Bjarni> SmatZ: the log is so big that it takes minutes to open it 22:01:10 <Bjarni> so I only open it when I really have to 22:01:12 <Zahl> oh, and i thought your brain uses a RAMdisk and everytime you reboot you forget everything 22:01:27 <Bjarni> it does 22:01:41 <Bjarni> alcohol causes it to reboot 22:01:52 *** thgergo [~Administr@dsl51B7882B.pool.t-online.hu] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:01:55 <SmatZ> you don't drink often, right? 22:02:10 <Bjarni> I don't like the taste 22:02:18 <Bjarni> it's as simple as that 22:02:38 <Zahl> i liek beer 22:03:01 <Bjarni> looks like your keyboard enjoyed some beer tonight as well 22:03:56 <Zahl> the last one enjoyed some applejuice, but as i kept on typing instead of cleaning it, it dies after half an hour.. 22:04:00 <Zahl> *d 22:04:58 <Bjarni> usually technical stuff dies when it's out of juice.... 22:07:01 *** Yexo [~Yexo@32-88-ftth.onsneteindhoven.nl] has quit [Quit: Ik ga weg] 22:12:55 <peter1138> wrong 22:13:51 <peter1138> it's the magic smoke 22:13:55 <peter1138> hm 22:13:56 <peter1138> > sleep 22:15:07 *** AC6000 [~AC6000@h76.83.28.71.ip.alltel.net] has joined #openttd 22:15:25 <AC6000> O.O 22:15:37 <Sacro> o.O 22:15:39 <AC6000> alotta people in here :P 22:16:07 <Bjarni> lol 22:16:28 <Bjarni> somebody invented a vibrating condom (controlled wirelessly) 22:16:41 <Grek> he's japanese 22:16:53 <Bjarni> how did you know? 22:17:06 <Touqen> they are freaks over there 22:17:16 <Grek> indeed. 22:17:22 <Touqen> They are really... "in touch" with their bodies. 22:17:31 <Prof_Frink> heh, those crazy japs 22:17:46 <Bjarni> the researchers had to test the design hundreds of times so they visited local brothels 22:17:53 <Grek> hahaha 22:17:58 <Bjarni> now that's a Sacro job if there ever were one 22:20:16 <Bjarni> I like the part of researching the location of the vibrator for maximise effect 22:21:04 <Bjarni> err 22:21:07 <Bjarni> don't google for this 22:21:19 <Bjarni> I did X( 22:21:27 <Touqen> whoops 22:21:31 <Touqen> You aren't at work are you? 22:21:46 <Bjarni> do you think I would do something like this at work? 22:21:50 <Bjarni> like IRC 22:21:57 <Touqen> Yes. 22:21:59 <Touqen> I'm at work. 22:22:05 <Bjarni> and googling for condoms 22:22:20 <Bjarni> I might get fired 22:22:28 <Bjarni> which would take events in the wrong order 22:22:41 <Bjarni> because usually you have to be hired before fired 22:22:57 <Grek> =p 22:22:59 <Touqen> heh 22:23:07 <Touqen> So you're unemployed and pissing about at home? 22:23:12 <Bjarni> well the reason for not googling this is all the weird companies that showed up 22:23:22 <Grek> damn I kept playing travian and IRCing at my last job 22:23:32 <Grek> =p 22:23:33 <Touqen> I can imagine. 22:23:49 <Bjarni> <Touqen> So you're unemployed and pissing about at home? <-- no... actually I'm a student 22:24:23 <Touqen> So you're unemployed and pissing about in your dorm room? 22:24:30 <Touqen> :P 22:24:33 <Bjarni> no 22:24:39 <Bjarni> I'm studying for exams 22:24:43 <Bjarni> that's clear right? 22:24:49 <Grek> tenta p is the shit 22:24:50 <Grek> :( 22:25:01 <Bjarni> ? 22:25:15 <Grek> that's what they call the period of final exams here 22:25:16 <Grek> =p 22:25:58 <Grek> sigh 22:26:09 <Grek> anyone who can recommend a game in the spirit of colonization? =p 22:26:20 <Bjarni> freecol? 22:26:26 <Grek> tried that, ew. 22:26:32 <Bjarni> this year I did something that I have never done before 22:26:48 <Touqen> a vibrating condom? 22:27:24 <Bjarni> I thought an assignment was so much fun that I went to the professor and asked "can I get extra credit if I continue to work on this in the summer vacation?" 22:27:33 <Bjarni> turns out that I can :) 22:27:37 <Grek> haha 22:27:42 <Grek> what's the subject? 22:27:57 <Touqen> Bjarni: You should turn it into a self directed research project. 22:27:59 <Bjarni> robots 22:28:15 <Grek> :) 22:28:18 <Bjarni> <Touqen> Bjarni: You should turn it into a self directed research project. <-- it is 22:28:22 <Grek> robots seem cool 22:28:24 <Touqen> nice. 22:28:43 <Grek> =p 22:28:49 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: glx * r13192 /branches/noai/bin/ai/regression/run.sh: [NoAI] -Fix: ignore eol for regression 22:29:03 <Grek> hmm 22:29:23 <Grek> you think working on openttd could qualify for google summer of code? =p 22:29:31 <Bjarni> yes 22:29:36 <Bjarni> if you find the right professor 22:29:57 * Sacro wants to do horny japanese women for GSOC 22:30:25 <Prof_Frink> Mmmm 22:30:25 <Bjarni> GSOC? 22:30:29 <Touqen> summer of code 22:31:07 <Bjarni> the scary part is that if Sacro actually ends up in Japan and starts to hunt women then he might actually find somebody... 22:31:22 <Sacro> yup 22:31:23 <Grek> well if you seen the trains there 22:31:28 <Grek> =p 22:31:29 <Bjarni> they consider white English people as exotic and interesting 22:32:14 <Bjarni> according to Japan all foreigners are white native English talking people 22:32:32 <Grek> gaijin 22:32:36 <Sacro> well... 22:32:42 * Sacro looks round his room 22:32:46 <Sacro> on average, they're right 22:32:47 <Grek> I saw that guy who's doing Hiro Nakamura in heroes, in scrubs today 22:32:48 <Grek> was fun 22:32:49 <Grek> =) 22:32:50 * Prof_Frink books plane tickets 22:35:29 *** JD___ [~chatzilla@R4e96.r.pppool.de] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.78.1 [Firefox 1.5.0.12/2007050813]] 22:35:50 *** Arie- [asdfsadf@villabadmuts.adsl.utwente.nl] has quit [Quit: ( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.03 :: www.XLhost.de )] 22:36:33 <Bjarni> Prof_Frink: if you want to hunt women then å€§éª should be a better place to go than æ±äº¬ 22:36:43 *** AC6000 [~AC6000@h76.83.28.71.ip.alltel.net] has left #openttd [] 22:37:03 * Grek kicks UTF-8 in the shins. 22:37:05 <Bjarni> and if you are determined enough to actually do this then you will figure out what locations I just mentioned 22:37:07 <Prof_Frink> Wossat in non-forern? 22:37:32 <Bjarni> two places in Japan 22:37:37 <Prof_Frink> Pfft 22:37:43 * Touqen is on a non utf terminal :/ 22:37:44 <Prof_Frink> Japan *is* one place. 22:38:10 <Bjarni> GB is one place too but nobody would consider Wales the same as Scotland 22:38:35 <Prof_Frink> They're both Not-England. 22:38:59 <Bjarni> GB != England 22:39:24 <Prof_Frink> Indeed. 22:39:39 *** Mark [~M4rk@5351EE62.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:39:43 <Bjarni> but I have yet to figure out what's so great about Britain 22:40:05 <Touqen> Crappy weather, crappy food 22:40:16 <Prof_Frink> Bjarni: It's historical :/ 22:40:30 <Bjarni> it has a great history? 22:40:36 <Prof_Frink> From when we owned the world. 22:41:03 * Touqen notes the past tense ness of that phrase. 22:41:06 <Bjarni> <Grek> anyone who can recommend a game in the spirit of colonization? =p <-- hitman 22:41:09 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-225-75.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:41:11 <Grek> .. 22:41:18 <Bjarni> you show up somewhere and kill the people who came before you 22:41:38 <Grek> psh, I live in peace with the natives 22:41:43 <SpComb> Japan used to be part of the UK etc? 22:41:44 <Grek> kill the dutch! 22:42:44 <Bjarni> <SpComb> Japan used to be part of the UK etc? <-- China claims (or used to claim) that it's a rebellious province of China 22:42:49 <Bjarni> just like they claim with Taiwan 22:43:00 <Touqen> And tibet. 22:43:11 <Bjarni> but Japan is Japanese by the will of the gods 22:43:14 <SpComb> hmm, actually, Japan managed to more or less keep its independance? 22:43:18 <Prof_Frink> China rocks 22:43:29 <Touqen> China has rocks. 22:43:34 <Prof_Frink> Well, bits of it shake 22:44:02 <Touqen> China will be the superpower that tear itself to pieces. 22:44:05 <Grek> hmm 22:44:10 <Grek> what would be most interesting 22:44:16 <Bjarni> the origin of the word kamikaze shows that it's the will of the gods that Japan should be Japanese 22:44:17 <Grek> computer systems or system-on-a-chip 22:44:50 <Bjarni> but we all know that, right? 22:44:59 <Bjarni> I mean the origin of the word 22:45:21 <Prof_Frink> Is it Japanese for a non-return ticket? 22:45:26 <Touqen> lol 22:45:40 <Bjarni> sort of 22:46:26 <Bjarni> when the Mongols decided to attack Japan they went to Korea and started sailing. While sailing kamikaze showed up and all the ships sank 22:46:43 <Bjarni> this was like 700 years ago 22:47:10 <Touqen> And they called the typhoon that sank the ships the "divine wind" because it "obviously" came from god. 22:47:20 <Bjarni> kami = god, kaze = wind... kamikaze means the wind from the gods aka a typhoon 22:47:35 <Prof_Frink> *parp* 22:48:39 <Zahl> i think the word kamikaze was invented for the game "worms" 22:51:32 <Grek> you saying someone went back in time and created an artificial typhoon in order to invent kamikaze so worms would be complete? 22:51:42 <Bjarni> yes 22:51:56 <Bjarni> and that someone will be me 22:52:01 <Prof_Frink> Grek: Not "someone". The Doctor. 22:52:26 <Eddi|zuHause> "i had nothing to do with that fire!" :p 22:52:46 <ln> Bjarni: been to germany yet? 22:52:50 <Eddi|zuHause> good night anyway 22:53:20 <Bjarni> ln: that's completely off topic 22:53:37 <Bjarni> and when should I have been in Germany since the last time you asked? :P 22:54:21 <ln> Bjarni: e.g. last weekend. 22:54:56 *** Digitalfox [~Digitalfo@bl10-65-237.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:56:12 <ln> but anyway, i won't be going to germany until next week. 22:56:31 *** elmex [~elmex@e180067010.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:56:36 <Bjarni> last weekend 22:56:41 <Bjarni> I guess that makes sense 22:56:46 <Bjarni> I was offline all the time 22:57:15 <Bjarni> but that's because I was working hard on the robot that had to be able to drive last Wednesday 22:57:20 <ln> so was i, i was in stockholm. 22:57:37 <Bjarni> this weekend was used to catch up with some sleep 22:58:58 <Prof_Frink> Bjarni: Have you attached the flamethrower yet? 23:00:56 <Bjarni> not that kind of robot 23:01:09 <Bjarni> remote controlled fighting robots aren't real robots 23:01:17 <ln> Bjarni: beware, i might also be visiting denmark next week, briefly. 23:01:26 <Bjarni> real robots are more like the AI in OTTD 23:01:46 <Bjarni> working on it's own and sometimes doing stupid stuff and you can't help it even if you want to do so 23:01:56 <Bjarni> ln: why such a threat? 23:02:24 <ln> it wasn't meant to be a threat. 23:02:33 <Prof_Frink> Bjarni: No robot is complete without a flamethrower. 23:02:47 <Prof_Frink> Asimov's fourth law. 23:03:13 <Bjarni> :) 23:04:09 <Bjarni> but how do you know those laws? 23:04:56 * Prof_Frink is a robot 23:05:11 <Prof_Frink> And yes, I do have a flamethrower. 23:05:20 <Bjarni> the first law is interesting 23:05:26 <Bjarni> because 23:05:29 <Sacro> To the right of the picture is another cock, this time the Dead Man Valve Isolating Cock (DMVIC). 23:05:33 * Sacro sniggers 23:05:44 <Bjarni> wouldn't a homing missile be considered a robot? 23:06:06 <Prof_Frink> Not if it's pigeon-powered 23:06:39 <Bjarni> I'm not talking about if something on the rocket 23:06:50 *** Zahl [~Zahl@p549F1EBF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: (~_~]"] 23:06:54 <Bjarni> I'm talking about the rockets that could be considered robots 23:06:59 <Bjarni> might not be all rockets 23:09:03 <Bjarni> I just noticed something odd... it would appear that there is an old coal mine on æŸå³¶ãbut I thought that Japan was a volcanic country and too young to be able to have coal 23:10:26 <Sacro> "The Train Operator then opens his cab door on the side of the train where the platform is located, and confirms this by putting one foot onto the platform. This is to overcome the possibility of opening the doors on the wrong side of the train." 23:10:47 <Bjarni> lol 23:10:52 <Bjarni> where do you read this? 23:10:57 <Sacro> ;) 23:12:25 *** Jortuny [~Jortuny@cpe-67-241-27-118.twcny.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 23:12:54 <Bjarni> come on 23:12:55 <Bjarni> tell me 23:13:03 <Sacro> "...if a train leaves the shed with the leads attached substantial damage will occur to both the train and the shed structure." 23:13:08 <Bjarni> I want to see what stupid railroad rules the UK has 23:13:21 <Sacro> http://www.trainweb.org/districtdave/html/a_bit_of_train_equipment_.html 23:13:21 <Bjarni> if you give me a link then I tell you some Danish rules 23:13:27 <ln> today's quiz: what motion picture begins with the words "I love America."? 23:13:45 <Bjarni> I don't know 23:14:00 <Bjarni> I don't watch movies with lies that are delivered as the truth 23:15:27 *** lobster_MB [~michielbr@86.89.201.189] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 23:17:10 <Bjarni> well 23:17:35 <Bjarni> I got the link so now I guess I have to tell something about how it works here 23:17:50 <Bjarni> trains usually drives on the right track 23:18:04 *** Touqen [~stephen@c-98-216-253-146.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:18:20 <glx> not here 23:18:26 <Bjarni> if the have to drive in the left track (or the wrong track if you like) then they have to use the horn frequently 23:18:42 <Bjarni> but only if it's the first train using the left track 23:18:52 <Bjarni> and a few lines are excepted from this rule 23:18:55 *** lobster_MB [~michielbr@86.89.201.189] has joined #openttd 23:20:11 <Dominik> how does the horn help when two trains drive with 100+ kmh towards each other? 23:20:38 <Bjarni> it doesn't 23:20:50 <Bjarni> it's a rule from before the railroad used radios 23:21:15 <Dominik> hmmk 23:21:22 <Bjarni> then the train would sound the whistle to signal that one track wasn't in use anymore so the track maintenance crew could start working 23:21:32 <Bjarni> but for some reason the rule have never been removed 23:22:46 <Bjarni> once in a while it happens during the night that one track is blocked and then the front train skips using the horn 23:23:12 <Bjarni> but it also happens that the driver considers this rule very important and use the horn like every 4th sec 23:25:28 *** Touqen [~stephen@c-98-216-253-146.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 23:37:10 *** racquad [~racquad@bd21f53e.virtua.com.br] has joined #openttd 23:37:25 <racquad> hello everyone. 23:37:38 <racquad> does anyone knows how or where can I edit a GRF file? 23:38:38 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-62-167-73-210.adslplus.ch] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:38:51 *** Dominik [~Dominik@dslb-092-072-007-174.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:38:54 <Bjarni> where would be on a computer 23:39:04 <Bjarni> how would be any hex editor 23:39:13 <Bjarni> or you could decompile it first 23:39:16 <Sacro> or a magnet 23:39:27 <Bjarni> and then edit the text file or png sprites 23:39:27 <racquad> Bjarni: is there any friendly GUI to edit a GRF file? 23:39:38 <Bjarni> GUI? 23:39:44 <Bjarni> what's what? 23:39:49 <racquad> Graphic User Interface 23:40:08 <racquad> a friendly program that helps me to edit a file rather than using a hex editor 23:40:11 <Bjarni> it was a rhetorical question 23:40:14 <Sacro> nope 23:40:28 <Bjarni> you shouldn't use a hex editor 23:40:37 <racquad> what program should I use? 23:40:48 <Bjarni> use grfcodec to convert the file into a png and a text file 23:41:04 <Bjarni> the text file then contains hex values (in plain text) 23:42:09 <racquad> once I have used this codec, can I edit the text file on a regular editor? 23:42:35 <racquad> let me be clear: I want to edit some settings on a specific vehicle: speed, power, capacity... 23:44:48 <Bjarni> then pick the right hex values and alter them 23:44:57 <racquad> I have just downloaded this codec and "unziped" a grf file. but the info file is a little confusing... 23:44:58 <Bjarni> you can read in the documentation what values to modify 23:45:09 <racquad> where can I find this documentation?!? 23:45:13 <Bjarni> the wiki 23:45:19 <racquad> i'm searching everywhere and I can't find it! 23:45:59 <racquad> http://wiki.openttd.org ? 23:46:06 <Bjarni> http://wiki.ttdpatch.net/tiki-index.php?page=NewGraphicsSpecs 23:46:30 <Bjarni> we don't want to just copy their wiki but since the format is the same... 23:47:02 <racquad> I see.. 23:47:10 <racquad> I will study. thanks a lot! 23:47:18 <Bjarni> this could take a while 23:47:34 <Bjarni> as the learning curve is rather steep :s 23:48:10 <racquad> of course. thank you 23:48:13 *** racquad [~racquad@bd21f53e.virtua.com.br] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:48:24 <Bjarni> well just editing a vehicle already in the file should be doable within reasonable time 23:52:11 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@snat1.spoje.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 23:52:53 *** Bjarni [~Bjarni@62.243.161.6] has quit [Quit: Leaving]