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00:20:44 *** Frostregen [~sucks@dslb-084-058-173-003.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 00:23:26 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@89.246.223.195] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:33:51 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [~johekr@p54B76D01.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 00:39:04 *** Frostregen [~sucks@dslb-084-058-173-003.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Quit: und weg] 00:40:16 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B760FE.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:02:52 *** a1270 [~Cheese@24-117-88-79.cpe.cableone.net] has left #openttd [/part] 01:07:58 *** Zorni [zorn@e177228244.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:10:51 *** a1270 [~Cheese@24-117-88-79.cpe.cableone.net] has joined #openttd 01:12:04 *** DaleStan [~Dale@pool-71-98-94-202.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:12:38 *** DaleStan [~Dale@pool-71-98-94-202.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 01:46:27 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: glx * r13355 /branches/noai/src/ai/ai_gui.cpp: [NoAI] -Fix (r13300): GUI glitches caused by too much 'optimisation' 02:22:03 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.231.53] has quit [Quit: ecke] 02:22:22 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.231.53] has joined #openttd 02:25:47 *** Zealotus [~Ping@217-211-211-179-no70.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #openttd 02:29:28 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:46:30 *** Dred_furst [~Dred_furs@resnet535.bournemouth.ac.uk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:58:36 *** Lakie [~Lakie@91.84.251.149] has quit [Quit: Night All.] 02:58:36 *** DaleStan [~Dale@pool-71-98-94-202.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:02:20 *** DaleStan [~Dale@c-98-223-83-70.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 03:31:22 *** Pikka [~PikkaBird@CPE-58-165-98-32.qld.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 05:14:06 *** kajo [~kajo@ppp-67-67-219-247.dsl.austtx.swbell.net] has joined #openttd 05:14:46 *** roboboy [~Leo@c211-30-60-34.carlnfd4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 05:14:50 <kajo> Hello, is anyone there? 05:16:15 <kajo> Anyone? I am at a loss about the tgrf files (???) or whatever they are that I need that are the graphics files? I don't understand where they are/what the heck is the deal with those... 05:17:08 <Ammler> kajo: did you read the readme? 05:17:20 <Ammler> good morning btw. :-) 05:17:50 <kajo> ammler, yes I did, and only became more confused as I went on. 05:17:54 <kajo> Good morning to you also. 05:18:24 <Ammler> do you have a copy of TTD? 05:18:25 <kajo> I can't find the damn files- do I have to download them separately? Do I just have to move them from one folder to the other? 05:18:46 <kajo> I had the DOS one years ago, but I'm on an ubuntu system now. 05:19:44 <Ammler> @grfs 05:19:44 <DorpsGek> Ammler: original grf files: http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?t=3407 05:19:45 <DorpsGek> Ammler: newgrf files: http://grfcrawler.tt-forums.net/ 05:20:21 <Ammler> kajo: I would use windows grfs, It is better for MP games... 05:21:21 <kajo> Ammler, I don't have a preference, I just don't understand what the deal is with the grfs, and why the runaround is being given. 05:21:34 <kajo> I understand they are the graphics files? 05:21:58 <kajo> thanks for the URL though, I was looking in the forum... 05:27:08 *** roboboy [~Leo@c211-30-60-34.carlnfd4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:27:09 <kajo> ammler, I still don't understand. I went to the first link, and the only thing that would look potentially promising is a .rar, but that's windows... "TTD original graphics:" it says. What the heck is the deal with these files? 05:42:51 *** ecke1 [~ecke@213.195.231.53] has joined #openttd 05:43:05 <Pikka> kajo: extract the files from the .rar into the /data subdirectory. did you really read the readme? :O 05:43:46 <kajo> pikka, I really did. It didn't ever mention downloading a separate rar or anything, just starts talking about these files that cannot be found anywhere... 05:44:33 <Pikka> well the understanding is that you already have a legit copy of ttd. ;) 05:46:56 <kajo> Well, the frustrating thing for me is that I have the rights to these files because I do. But in the readme, it should at least credibly demonstrate it assumes you have the legit copy, I mean... I was just in the dark. A statement in that area along the lines of "These files are understood to already be on your system because you already have the CD; if you have lost your copy of the CD, but have the rights to the data for personal us 05:46:56 <kajo> e, they can be found online if you are persistent." would have sufficed. 05:49:26 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.231.53] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:55:29 *** Osai^zZz`off is now known as Osai 06:00:59 *** Dark_Link^ [~glidegame@fw.dormnet.his.se] has joined #openttd 06:07:11 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.231.53] has joined #openttd 06:13:56 *** ecke1 [~ecke@213.195.231.53] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:32:20 *** Pikka [~PikkaBird@CPE-58-165-98-32.qld.bigpond.net.au] has quit [] 06:42:50 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: peter1138 * r13356 /trunk/src/ (economy.cpp economy_type.h): -Codechange: Incorrect documentation and variable type for inflation rates 06:44:18 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: rubidium * r13357 /trunk/src/yapf/ (8 files): -Codechange: add constness to YAPF. 06:54:28 *** snorre [~snorre@84.53.58.1] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 07:03:45 *** planetmaker|away is now known as planetmaker 07:08:08 *** Gekz [~brendan@123-243-206-102.static.tpgi.com.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:08:56 *** TinoM [~Tino@i59F5542A.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 07:16:39 *** thgergo [~Administr@dsl51B60EC5.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #openttd 07:16:41 *** thgergo [~Administr@dsl51B60EC5.pool.t-online.hu] has left #openttd [] 07:29:18 *** snorre [~snorre@84.53.58.1] has joined #openttd 07:42:33 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host131-232-dynamic.9-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 07:43:05 <Wolf01> hello 07:55:40 *** Gekz [~brendan@123-243-206-102.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #openttd 07:56:07 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@snat1.spoje.net] has joined #openttd 07:56:50 *** egladil [~egladil@83.233.80.249] has quit [Quit: egladil] 07:58:16 *** Wezz6400 [~Wezz6400@145-118-110-195.fttx.bbned.nl] has joined #openttd 08:00:40 *** Slowpoke [Lobster@dslb-088-073-249-069.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 08:05:29 *** blathijs [~matthijs@katherina.student.ipv6.utwente.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:05:36 *** egladil [~egladil@83.233.80.249] has joined #openttd 08:08:33 *** blathijs [~matthijs@katherina.student.ipv6.utwente.nl] has joined #openttd 08:16:52 *** Gekz_ [~brendan@123-243-206-102.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #openttd 08:17:39 *** mikl [~mikl@adsl.peytz.dk] has joined #openttd 08:17:54 *** Gekz is now known as Guest937 08:17:54 *** Gekz_ is now known as gekz 08:18:00 *** gekz is now known as Gekz 08:21:37 *** Guest937 [~brendan@123-243-206-102.static.tpgi.com.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:24:06 *** divo [~asd@x1-6-00-18-39-d3-e9-f6.k899.webspeed.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:27:52 *** divo [~asd@x1-6-00-18-39-d3-e9-f6.k899.webspeed.dk] has joined #openttd 08:31:29 *** k-man [~jason@ppp121-44-1-134.lns10.syd7.internode.on.net] has joined #openttd 08:34:01 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: rubidium * r13358 /trunk/src/order_cmd.cpp: -Codechange: split next order determination and conditional order processing functionality from the order handling. Patch based on work by michi_cc. 08:34:14 <Noldo> is this yapp related? 08:34:26 *** neli [micha@82-171-80-171.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:34:52 <Eddi|zuHause2> no, because apparently yapp is bad :p 08:35:11 <Noldo> huh? 08:35:23 *** Gekz_ [~brendan@123-243-206-102.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #openttd 08:36:40 <Rubidium> just cherry picking some cleanup parts from the yapp patch 08:36:51 <Rubidium> makes the yapp patch smaller 08:37:10 <Rubidium> and more likely that it doesn't break by a commit 08:40:54 *** Gekz [~brendan@123-243-206-102.static.tpgi.com.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:42:01 <peter1138> hmm, annoying 08:42:07 <peter1138> vista has decided i can remove my primary hdd 08:44:34 *** mikl [~mikl@adsl.peytz.dk] has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 08:44:43 <Eddi|zuHause2> "hmm, annoying, vista [...]" 08:45:42 <peter1138> :) 08:45:43 <peter1138> heh 08:45:51 <peter1138> and just annoyed some ... fashion muppet 08:45:53 <peter1138> +s 08:46:54 *** elmex [~elmex@e180064227.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 08:47:10 <peter1138> Liz> Yves Saint Laurent has died, a true genius :( 08:47:11 <peter1138> petererer> much like newton, einstein, galileo, brunel, etc 08:47:44 <peter1138> genius! 08:47:45 <Eddi|zuHause2> certainly ;) 08:51:39 *** mikl [~mikl@adsl.peytz.dk] has joined #openttd 08:59:20 *** Brianetta [~brian@77-103-231-158.cable.ubr05.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 09:00:05 *** kajo [~kajo@ppp-67-67-219-247.dsl.austtx.swbell.net] has quit [Quit: Ciao.] 09:01:46 *** Mchl [~mchl@abeu200.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #openttd 09:14:08 *** neli [micha@82-171-80-171.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 09:17:42 *** Hendikins is now known as Hendikins|SRA412 09:27:51 *** Phoenix_the_II [rdeboom@home.deboom.biz] has joined #openttd 09:32:13 *** dlunch [~dlunch@61.108.29.49] has joined #openttd 09:34:27 *** ob0t_ [andyf@dangermouse.pod4.org] has joined #openttd 09:34:27 *** ob0t [andyf@dangermouse.pod4.org] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:36:18 *** lobstar_MB [~michielbr@86.89.201.189] has joined #openttd 09:36:56 *** lobstar [~michielbi@86.89.201.189] has joined #openttd 09:41:27 *** lobster_MB [~michielbr@86.89.201.189] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:41:39 *** lobster [~michielbi@86.89.201.189] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:43:31 *** LA[lord] [~chatzilla@ip235.cab20.ltln.starman.ee] has joined #openttd 09:45:11 *** LA[lord] [~chatzilla@ip235.cab20.ltln.starman.ee] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:50:48 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@89.246.223.195] has joined #openttd 09:56:38 *** LordAzamath [~lord@ip235.cab20.ltln.starman.ee] has joined #openttd 09:57:16 *** LordAzamath is now known as LA 09:57:31 *** mikl_ [~mikl@adsl.peytz.dk] has joined #openttd 10:03:31 *** mikl [~mikl@adsl.peytz.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:26:34 *** izhirahider [~izzy@squareroot.divisionbyzero.net] has joined #openttd 10:36:18 *** Lex [~lex@70.188-233-85.staticip.namesco.net] has joined #openttd 10:38:14 *** wolfryu [~Wolfenste@dhcp-077-250-023-072.chello.nl] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 10:43:14 *** shodan [~user@ppp101-219.static.internode.on.net] has joined #openttd 10:50:22 *** wolfy [~Wolfenste@dhcp-077-250-023-072.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 11:03:32 *** Maedhros [~jc@host86-137-64-250.range86-137.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 11:22:17 *** mikl_ [~mikl@adsl.peytz.dk] has quit [Quit: mikl_] 11:22:54 *** mikl [~mikl@adsl.peytz.dk] has joined #openttd 11:38:25 *** bowman [johanf@81-226-229-179-no59.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:39:55 *** bowman [johanf@81-226-229-179-no59.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #openttd 11:45:37 *** dR3x4cK [~Miranda@129.187.61.232] has joined #openttd 11:51:07 *** dR3x4cK [~Miranda@129.187.61.232] has quit [Quit: dR3x4cK] 11:52:14 *** Lakie [~Lakie@91.84.251.149] has joined #openttd 12:01:25 *** markmc [~me@h173n1fls304o1036.telia.com] has quit [Quit: - 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9646 14:07:22 <Eddi|zuHause2> well, the newer ones do not have increased zoom :p 14:07:27 <glx> yes he still uses the old dead branch 14:07:55 *** DaleStan_ [~Dale@c-98-223-83-70.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 14:07:55 *** DaleStan is now known as Guest975 14:07:55 *** DaleStan_ is now known as DaleStan 14:08:16 <LA> lol.. he has my never actually started small airport graphics. 14:08:27 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@79.0.238.55] has joined #openttd 14:08:29 <LA> which I have not given permissio 14:08:32 <LA> n 14:08:40 <Eddi|zuHause2> of course you didn't... 14:08:48 <LA> for him to use... he asked about tropical bank once though 14:09:00 <Ammler> I forgot one time to start with -x and now the cfg is new :-), stupid me. 14:09:26 <Eddi|zuHause2> keep a backup next time :p 14:09:26 *** egladil [~egladil@83.233.80.249] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:09:30 <LA> I like the part where he says (c)sergey all rights reserved 14:09:51 <LA> graphics by werminaard lol 14:11:18 <LA> http://openttd32.org/forum/showthread.php?t=78 14:11:34 <LA> "Jean-Francois Claeys (Belugas) - In training, not yet specialized" 14:12:09 <LA> "official releases of openttd" 14:12:15 <glx> official releases are not in rar 14:12:29 <LA> I'm just roffeling now 14:12:53 <LA> erm.. rofl 14:12:55 <LA> :P 14:14:34 *** Guest975 [~Dale@c-98-223-83-70.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:19:40 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: skidd13 * r13359 /trunk/src/ (5 files in 2 dirs): 14:19:40 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: -Codechange: convert _fios_items to a SmallVector 14:19:40 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: -Cleanup: some reincarnations of _fios_items in the code 14:23:58 *** dR3x4cK [~Miranda@c108.tum.vpn.lrz-muenchen.de] has joined #openttd 14:27:01 *** dR3x4cK [~Miranda@c108.tum.vpn.lrz-muenchen.de] has quit [] 14:28:10 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: skidd13 * r13360 /trunk/src/ (fios.h os2.cpp win32.cpp): -Fix (r13359): Forgot to remove some instances of FiosAlloc() 14:29:59 <Sacro> LA: thanks, means it is valid to report it as warez 14:30:15 <LA> I reported it already 14:30:23 <LA> but not as warez though :P 14:30:30 <Sacro> heh 14:30:32 <Sacro> well it is 14:30:39 <Sacro> he's distributing your stuff illegally 14:30:40 <LA> define warez 14:31:13 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: glx * r13361 /trunk/src/ (os2.cpp win32.cpp): -Fix (r13360): regexp failed 14:31:28 <LA> and tbh I don't care if he does that or not.. It is just annoying to see his unenglish posts 14:31:39 <Sacro> unenglish? 14:33:24 <Belugas> why don't we invade his forums with posts in french, german, english or even chinese! 14:33:40 <LA> russian to english with online translator = unenglish to me 14:33:42 <Belugas> anyone knows klingon? ln maybe? 14:33:42 <Belugas> hehe 14:34:10 <LA> why won't we invade his forums with english -> russian online translation 14:34:15 <LA> :P 14:34:28 <LA> "unrussian" ^^ 14:34:37 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: smatz * r13362 /trunk/src/town_cmd.cpp: -Fix: make the town authority window a bit less glitchy 14:35:26 <bowman> I saw that guy on the my-symbian forums 14:35:28 <LA> ln- knows even Estonian, he might know klingon too 14:37:18 <bowman> http://my-symbian.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=35987&highlight=openttd bizarre post 14:38:31 <LA> "http://openttd32.org/forum - the main forum of project open transport tycoon deluxe (openttd 32bpp) " 14:38:40 <LA> ... 14:38:49 <glx> http://www.ttycoonfr.org/forum/index.php?topic=705.0 <-- he's here too (french forum) 14:39:01 *** shodan [~user@ppp101-219.static.internode.on.net] has quit [Quit: Client Exiting] 14:39:04 <glx> but still using his weird english 14:39:05 <LA> btw funny thing is that he probably even pays for the webspace 14:39:14 <LA> glx: unenglish :D 14:39:17 <bowman> what is it that he does exactly? 14:40:29 <glx> I like his signature "The participant of project OpenTTD 32bpp" 14:40:38 <bowman> the only one! 14:40:50 <Belugas> basically, promoting his package of graphics, taking some from other authors not always mentionning it, and which package can only be used on a version of OpenTTD that was not official, nor has naymore life 14:41:04 <Belugas> anymore 14:41:07 <bowman> :) 14:41:26 <Belugas> so, all in all, i don't know why he does so 14:41:33 <glx> and he also provides openttd packages including ttd files I think 14:41:58 <Belugas> you have to give him credits on the fact that he is dedicated to the task tough... 14:42:04 <Belugas> i think so too, glx 14:42:19 <Lakie> You mean Sjard or whatever he is called? 14:42:38 <SmatZ> Sergej 14:43:03 <Lakie> Ah yes, sorry. 14:43:40 <Lakie> I remember, he got into trouble for not giving credit were due and ripping off graphics from other users (and sometimes comerical games) if I remember correctly. 14:43:56 <Ammler> but he has some graphics there, I never saw on tt-forums, has he done them self? 14:44:26 <glx> Ammler: no he has russians for that 14:44:31 <SmatZ> hehe 14:44:51 <Ammler> :-) 14:44:55 <Ammler> some looks nice 14:45:17 <SmatZ> yeah, very nice 14:47:53 <Belugas> i just wonder why he does not use trunk's 32 graphix :S 14:48:11 <peter1138> probably because it don't have extra zoom levels 14:50:20 <Belugas> could be indeed 14:50:40 <glx> *doesn't ;) 14:51:32 <LA> but why he doesn't use GeekToo's patch then? :P 14:51:40 * Lakie doesn't see the point in going closer than 1x zoom 14:51:59 * SmatZ does 14:52:01 <Lakie> Sure it might look prettier, but you can't see so much and when you. 14:52:06 <Sacro> georges lvs 14:52:06 <Sacro> ;p 14:52:09 <Lakie> are zoomed in so close* 14:52:43 <LA> sacro, uncensored? 14:52:52 <Sacro> la: we'll find out 14:52:58 <LA> :P 14:53:23 <LA> what do you think if Geek's better zooming interpolation will show sth? 14:53:33 <LA> for 8bpp sprites that is 14:53:39 <Belugas> Lakie, maybe as to give the illusion of a 3d world a bit more? 14:53:56 <Lakie> Meh, its isometric, surely roation would feel more 3d? 14:55:29 <peter1138> there is a point 14:55:36 <peter1138> when you're running on a 1920x1200 LCD 14:55:41 <peter1138> however 14:55:48 <peter1138> just a simple double zoom is all that's needed 14:55:52 <peter1138> not extra sprites 14:56:15 <peter1138> maybe 3* zoom for that res ;) 14:57:26 <Eddi|zuHause2> well, there should be some kind of smoothing for these zoom levels 14:57:35 <peter1138> no 14:57:40 <Eddi|zuHause2> which is non-trivial 14:57:48 <peter1138> you can realibly smooth the edges 14:57:51 <peter1138> er 14:57:52 <peter1138> *can't 14:58:03 <peter1138> *sigh* 14:58:10 <peter1138> you can't reliably smooth the edges 14:58:51 <Eddi|zuHause2> you can smooth lines on a per-sprite basis, if you know wether the lines go \/ or -|- 14:59:00 *** elmex [~elmex@e180064227.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:59:32 <LA> btw some mod took care of our best friend sergey 14:59:48 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-225-75.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 14:59:57 <Eddi|zuHause2> there was a quite good smooth filter patch for the old double zoom, but it was specialised on \/ lines, so it screwed up with text 15:00:45 <peter1138> Eddi|zuHause2: no way of knowing what orientation it is 15:00:51 *** trd [~trd@217-13-28-178.dd.nextgentel.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:00:56 <peter1138> well, not without heuristics 15:01:02 <Eddi|zuHause2> indeed, it would have to be given ;) 15:01:04 <peter1138> (aka guessing) 15:01:53 <Eddi|zuHause2> but really, the only noticeable problems were letters 15:02:06 <Eddi|zuHause2> and those are easily identified 15:02:34 <Eddi|zuHause2> IF you filter the individual sprites, not the resulting picture 15:03:26 <Eddi|zuHause2> but working on sprites might get you problems at the edges 15:03:50 <SmatZ> you can filter individual sprites if you resize them during encoding 15:04:09 <SmatZ> resizing during drawing would be probably much slower 15:04:32 <Eddi|zuHause2> of course, you would probably cache the scaled version 15:05:30 <Eddi|zuHause2> the old double zoom worked on the screen buffer, it just copied each pixel to a 2x2 area at twice coordinates 15:06:11 <Eddi|zuHause2> that's probably not the optimal solution 15:06:27 <SmatZ> do you mean the windows-only ctrl+D mode? 15:06:37 <Eddi|zuHause2> yes, that one 15:06:43 <SmatZ> I thought it used windows specific calls 15:06:53 <SmatZ> so it resized everything, including main toolbar 15:06:57 <Eddi|zuHause2> there was a patch that ported it to linux 15:07:25 <Eddi|zuHause2> no, it made no special calls, it just transformed the buffer array 15:07:38 <peter1138> i thought gdi did it 15:07:57 <glx> gdi can zoom "on the fly" IIRC 15:08:14 <Eddi|zuHause2> but that was not how it was implemented :p 15:12:08 <SmatZ> if it wasn't done this way, then it wouldn't have to be windows specific 15:12:20 <SmatZ> but there were / are more patches allowing zooming 15:15:13 *** Pikka [~PikkaBird@CPE-58-165-98-32.qld.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 15:18:23 <Eddi|zuHause2> no, it did not have to be windows specific, just nobody bothered enough. and then came the new blitter system, which screwed the thing up completely 15:20:08 <peter1138> made it cleaner ;) 15:21:46 <Eddi|zuHause2> if you define "clean $x" by "mv $x /dev/null", then yes ;) 15:29:39 *** Singaporekid [~notme@cm132.epsilon124.maxonline.com.sg] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:44:59 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@snat1.spoje.net] has joined #openttd 15:59:06 *** DaleStan_ [~Dale@c-98-223-83-70.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 15:59:06 *** DaleStan is now known as Guest990 15:59:06 *** DaleStan_ is now known as DaleStan 16:03:49 *** Guest990 [~Dale@c-98-223-83-70.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:12:11 *** Boyinblue0 [~admin@5ac37eed.bb.sky.com] has joined #openttd 16:21:19 *** Boyinblue0 [~admin@5ac37eed.bb.sky.com] has quit [] 16:23:50 *** dR3x4cK [~Miranda@p5499F3C3.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 16:34:54 *** Volley [~worf@84.119.65.133] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:49:17 *** mikl [~mikl@adsl.peytz.dk] has quit [Quit: mikl] 16:51:01 *** Zorn [zorn@e177237017.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 16:52:03 *** mikl [~mikl@adsl.peytz.dk] has joined #openttd 16:52:36 *** mikl [~mikl@adsl.peytz.dk] has quit [] 16:53:44 *** Phoenix_the_II [rdeboom@home.deboom.biz] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:56:17 *** Purno [~Purno@5357D37C.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 16:59:31 *** NukeBuster [~NukeBuste@80.101.115.82] has joined #openttd 17:22:43 *** Mucht [~Martin@chello080109200215.3.sc-graz.chello.at] has joined #openttd 17:23:21 *** Digitalfox [~Digitalfo@bl7-180-79.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #openttd 17:23:29 <Digitalfox> Hi :) 17:24:01 <LA> he df 17:24:04 <LA> hey* 17:25:25 <Digitalfox> I'm using Firefox 3.0 RC1 and when viewing http://www.openttd.org/servers.php I got this http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v514/Digitalfox/layout.png 17:25:34 <Digitalfox> Hi LA :) 17:26:02 <Digitalfox> LA made any progress in 8bpp GUI ? 17:26:12 <LA> erm.. NO 17:26:22 <LA> I'm not involved there so much 17:26:30 <LA> anymore 17:26:41 <LA> and I haven't done anything lately 17:26:42 <LA> to 17:26:44 <Digitalfox> ok, I'm eager to see it in game, those graphics look great :) 17:26:55 <Digitalfox> I understand ;) 17:26:59 <LA> I'm more organizing wwottdgd2 in my openttd time 17:28:42 <LA> btw digitalfox, it's rc issue.. 2.0.0.4 has no problem with it 17:29:29 <Digitalfox> LA I was thinking it was some CSS changes in 3.0 code that make it that way.. ;) 17:30:13 <peter1138> it's those long servers names and some strange occurance of nowrap 17:30:13 <Digitalfox> I'll try with RC2 when it gets released near the weekend! 17:30:56 <Mchl> it's not FF3 issue, it's FF2 issue 17:31:06 <LA> ? 17:31:20 <Mchl> FF2 trated some attributes incorrectly 17:31:25 <LA> lol 17:31:53 *** Brianetta [~brian@77-103-231-158.cable.ubr05.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [Quit: TschÃŒÃ] 17:32:04 <Mchl> even though it was possible to get correct layout ;) 17:32:40 <Digitalfox> Mchl maybe it has something to do with 3.0 passing acid2 test and the chages made for it to pass? 17:33:19 <Mchl> this as well, yes 17:33:46 <Mchl> don't know much details, but I know that <td> width is affected 17:34:15 <Mchl> javascript library I use for web GUI design had to implement fixes for that as well 17:34:25 <Mchl> now it works well both under 2.0 and 3.0 17:34:30 <Mchl> so it is possible 17:35:33 <Mchl> btw: Digitalfox, how's your exam results? ;) 17:35:41 <Digitalfox> 19/20 =0 17:36:13 <Pikka> no it doesn't... 17:36:23 *** thgergo [~Administr@dsl51B60EC5.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #openttd 17:36:28 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 17:36:50 <Digitalfox> Pikka ? 17:37:03 <Digitalfox> Care to explain? :) 17:38:55 <Pikka> 19 divided by 20 does not equal 0. :) 17:39:20 <Mchl> it does 17:39:21 <LA> : is not equality symbol 17:39:29 <Mchl> when result is of int type 17:39:34 <LA> omg 17:39:42 <LA> he used =0 17:39:48 <LA> noy :0 17:39:56 <LA> või :o 17:40:05 <LA> =o 17:40:18 <Pikka> :P 17:40:21 <LA> või = or 17:40:34 <LA> was talking to one estonian just 17:40:40 <LA> and mind slipped 17:40:58 <LA> and fingggers 17:41:30 <Mchl> is this poetry or something? 17:41:40 <Pikka> it's certainly something! 17:41:44 <LA> should it be? 17:42:49 <Mchl> aha! philosophy! 17:42:51 <LA> btw pikka, I still gotta thank you again for helping me with the easter grf :P 17:43:41 <LA> mchl: As long as you can see some deep meaning of this... S) 17:44:26 <Mchl> I don't... that's why I think it's philosophy (or poetry maybe...) 17:46:38 *** orudge` [~orudge@78.32.67.242] has joined #openttd 17:46:38 *** mode/#openttd [+o orudge`] by ChanServ 17:46:38 *** LA is now known as LAIsNotPhilosoph 17:46:50 <LAIsNotPhilosoph> lo orudge 17:46:59 <orudge`> Good evening 17:47:06 <Ammler> Pikka: is there a difference between your refit GRF and the official GRF from George/MB ? 17:47:22 <Pikka> I didn't know there was an official grf from george/mb. 17:48:31 <peter1138> what would make it 'official' coming from george/mb? 17:48:49 <Ammler> peter1138: on the ECS download page 17:48:54 <LAIsNotPhilosoph> perhaps it's just advertised on ttdpatch site 17:49:08 *** LAIsNotPhilosoph is now known as LA 17:50:01 <LA> btw, which is correct : advertized or advertised 17:50:05 <Prof_Frink> sed 17:50:15 <peter1138> Have you been brainwashed into thinking ECS == new cargos? 17:50:21 <Ammler> :-) 17:50:31 <peter1138> there is more than ECS around (fortunately) 17:51:06 <Ammler> PBI is also ECS, isn't? 17:51:08 <glx> Pikka: gec 'class 91' has some glitches on train reversing 17:51:16 <peter1138> no, ECS is ECS 17:51:24 <peter1138> PBI is new cargos and new industries 17:51:55 <Ammler> hmm 17:51:56 <Belugas> Ammler, do you know what ECS means? 17:52:07 <glx> Extended Cargo Scheme 17:52:08 <Ammler> Belugas: yes 17:52:12 <Pikka> glx, glitches? 17:52:15 <glx> nothing related to industries 17:52:33 <Belugas> That's the point :) 17:53:03 <glx> Pikka: http://glx.dnsalias.net:8080/openttd/gec91_before.png --> http://glx.dnsalias.net:8080/openttd/gec91_after.png 17:53:10 <glx> same happens it ttdpatch 17:53:15 <Ammler> ok, PBI does also use ECS, right? :-) 17:53:22 *** Farden [~jk3farden@ram94-7-82-232-189-236.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 17:53:27 <Pikka> no, Ammler 17:53:38 <Pikka> yeah, it's meant to do that, glx. :) 17:53:51 <glx> but it looks strange 17:53:58 <Mchl> LA: *ised is british english, *ized is american english (or the other way out) 17:54:16 <LA> k 17:54:17 <Prof_Frink> *ised is right, *ized is wrong. 17:54:28 <LA> frink is wrong 17:54:33 <peter1138> glx: put a mail van on the end 17:54:43 <Prof_Frink> No. I'm English. I'm Right. 17:54:49 <LA> You're left 17:54:54 <LA> alone 17:55:12 <Mchl> If you're English, then I'm gonnaagree with you :P 17:55:26 <LA> I thought you were a human 17:55:35 <LA> not a language 17:55:37 <LA> :P 17:55:39 <glx> peter1138: ho I see 17:55:42 <Mchl> I'm a pole 17:55:47 <LA> north pole? 17:55:58 <glx> then it shouldn't be allowed to start without the mail van :) 17:56:00 <Mchl> no, the other pole 17:56:07 <Pikka> why not, glx? 17:56:10 <LA> south pole? 17:56:17 <LA> ^^ 17:56:20 <Mchl> south pole is not the other 17:56:31 <glx> to prevent the "glitch" 17:56:34 <Pikka> the 91 is actually a double-cab locomotive, it's just the two ends look completely different. :) 17:56:45 <LA> pole means 'is not' in Estonian 17:57:00 <Mchl> is not pole? 17:57:06 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.231.53] has quit [Quit: ecke] 17:57:15 <peter1138> the blunt end 17:57:46 <glx> hmm yes one has panto, the other has not 17:58:31 <Mchl> 'pole' means 'field' in polish 17:58:43 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.230.1] has joined #openttd 17:58:57 <Prof_Frink> Polish means something to make things shiny. 17:59:03 <Belugas> ECS is just an attempt to establish a standard (or at least a possible standardized use) of new cargo. But it's up to the coder to accept it. Sets can be done without ECS without any problems. It's just a spec, nothing more 17:59:13 <Ammler> Pikka: but your GRF is also useable for ECS 17:59:13 <Belugas> that was addressed to Ammler 17:59:41 <Ammler> as much as my testing showed... 17:59:50 <Mchl> Word that sounds like 'Polish' means 'lick it' in Polish 18:00:05 <Pikka> yes, Ammler 18:00:12 <peter1138> if you're using PBI, you're not using ECS 18:02:08 <Pikka> glx: the 91 can be used it two ways. with a driving trailer on the back, it becomes a double-headed trainset. with no driving trailer, the locomotive runs around the train on reversing and ends up driving flat-end forward. 18:02:22 <Pikka> which it can do, because it has a cab in the flat end as well as in the pointy end 18:02:43 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.230.1] has quit [] 18:02:46 *** lobstar is now known as lobster 18:03:19 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.230.1] has joined #openttd 18:03:52 <Pikka> http://www.raycam.co.uk/Class%2091%20blunt%20end%20at%20Doncaster.jpg 18:04:07 <glx> ok, so it just look strange for people not knowing the engine 18:05:09 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.230.1] has quit [] 18:05:25 *** Bjarni [~Bjarni@62.243.161.248] has joined #openttd 18:05:26 *** mode/#openttd [+o Bjarni] by ChanServ 18:05:47 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.230.1] has joined #openttd 18:10:26 *** Dred_furst [~Dred_furs@resnet725.bournemouth.ac.uk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:10:52 <Ammler> Pikka: it makes the other one obsolete, I will replace it on the wiki, it seems better... 18:11:54 <Ammler> here: http://wiki.ttdpatch.net/tiki-index.php?page=ECSSupport 18:12:02 <Bjarni> I don't know what you are talking about but that line smells of progress so it's all good 18:15:59 <Mchl> I love the smell of the progress in the morning... 18:17:35 <Bjarni> isn't this a bit late to called morning? 18:18:32 <Mchl> this phrase has originated from far east... it's morning over there 18:18:59 <Bjarni> isn't this a bit early to be called morning? :P 18:19:07 <peter1138> Ammler: so does the other GRF not exist suddenly? 18:19:25 <peter1138> that is an ECS compatibility list, not a list of GRFs to use 18:19:34 <Mchl> 3:20 am in Tokyo... it's morning all right 18:19:54 <Ammler> I added it and george added the "only for test", so I guess, it's better to remove it 18:20:19 <Bjarni> it's like 2:20 in Singapore right now 18:20:39 <Mchl> and the morning is near! 18:20:43 <Bjarni> <Mchl> 3:20 am in Tokyo... it's morning all right <-- how can it be morning before sunrise? 18:20:58 <Mchl> could be 18:21:39 <Mchl> technically we have no real night this time of year (and you neither I suppose) 18:22:08 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-4d00844a.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 18:22:09 <Bjarni> we have too much night though 18:22:35 <Bjarni> I have problems getting a clear view of far away stuff around midnight 18:22:39 <Ammler> peter1138: http://wiki.ttdpatch.net/tiki-pagehistory.php 18:22:44 <Ammler> oh 18:23:03 <Ammler> that link doesn't help 18:23:11 <peter1138> hehe 18:23:14 <Ammler> stupid wiki :-) 18:23:14 <Mchl> yeah... I also have problems in twilight... 18:24:04 <DaleStan> Ammler: I think you mean ...pagehistory.php?page=... 18:24:19 <Bjarni> like I have still to figure out how much steel the steel trains carry 18:24:33 <Bjarni> as they drive during the time when there are very few other trains 18:24:41 <Bjarni> like sometime after midnight 18:24:47 <Ammler> DaleStan: I liked to show diff between v6 and 7 18:24:59 <Bjarni> the wagons looks somewhat dark during that period 18:25:11 *** mikl [~mikl@adsl.peytz.dk] has joined #openttd 18:26:15 <Ammler> http://wiki.ttdpatch.net/tiki-pagehistory.php?page=ECSSupport&diff_style=mininlinediff&compare=compare&newver=7&oldver=6 18:26:54 <DaleStan> Ah. Yes. Forging POST requests is great fun, isn't it? 18:27:20 <Ammler> peter1138: if you think, I should keep, let me know :-) 18:27:33 <Ammler> *it* 18:29:01 <Ammler> well, doesn't work everytime :-) 18:30:18 <Mchl> why do you need to know, about the steel? 18:30:38 <Bjarni> I want to know as it shakes the house whenever it passes 18:31:02 <Mchl> i see :D 18:31:44 <Bjarni> I have seen the wagons in daylight (empty). They use 3 axle bogie wagons 18:32:19 <Bjarni> with a max axle pressure of 18 tons then it allows a whole lot of steel on each wagon 18:33:50 <Mchl> a lot indeed 18:34:24 <Mchl> and how many wagons per train? 18:34:38 <Bjarni> hmm 18:34:54 <Bjarni> 15-20 I think 18:35:05 <Bjarni> they always use two locomotives 18:35:40 <Mchl> heavy freight 18:35:49 <Mchl> no wonder you can't sleep :P 18:35:51 *** Sionide [sionide@cornflakes.imen.org.uk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:36:01 *** Sio [sionide@cornflakes.imen.org.uk] has joined #openttd 18:36:09 *** Sio is now known as Sionide 18:36:38 *** ob0t_ [andyf@dangermouse.pod4.org] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:36:44 <Bjarni> actually that's not a huge issue 18:36:55 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-4d00844a.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:37:09 <Bjarni> the railroad paid for sound proof windows as their own noise measurements turned out to be too high 18:37:22 <Bjarni> well 18:37:28 <Bjarni> not completely sound proof 18:37:36 <Bjarni> I can still hear the roar of the diesel engines 18:37:48 <Bjarni> for quite a while before they show up 18:38:58 <Mchl> I wonder somtimes, how it would be to live next to a cargo railway 18:39:01 <Bjarni> I'm actually quite happy that we have the freight trains. Not only does it mean better times for a Danish freight company it also means a whole lot less heavy lorries on the roads 18:39:28 <Mchl> but in Poland rail wouldn't pay for soundproof windows 18:40:06 <Bjarni> <Mchl> I wonder somtimes, how it would be to live next to a cargo railway <-- beats me.... there are only two freight trains each way every week 18:40:39 <Bjarni> it used to be one every 2nd hour but that was before I moved in 18:41:04 *** ob0t [andyf@dangermouse.pod4.org] has joined #openttd 18:41:36 <Bjarni> I don't consider the noise from the railroad an issue. I did at one time though 18:42:00 <Bjarni> because it was before they replaced our windows and they decided on replacing the tracks all night on a night just before an exam 18:42:38 <Touqen> o/` I was working on the railroad o/` 18:42:47 <Touqen> o/` All the live long daaaaay o/` 18:42:48 <Bjarni> you too? 18:42:55 <Maedhros> Mchl: you get used to it, after a while (I live next to the ECML in the UK) 18:43:28 <Touqen> I live next to people with kids that cry a lot. 18:43:32 <Touqen> And run up and down the stairs a lot. 18:43:40 <Bjarni> sounds a lot worse 18:43:41 <Touqen> And run around their apartment a lot. 18:44:34 <Bjarni> I saw something on TV the other day about people who... well... didn't sleep quietly to put it mildly :) 18:44:55 <Touqen> heh 18:44:59 <Touqen> night terrors? 18:45:00 <Mchl> oh yeah... I had such neighbours... 18:45:01 <Bjarni> and they asked people on the street about it and one guy said that the guy in the apartment next to him could keep him from falling asleep 18:45:15 <Bjarni> now that's bad 18:45:42 <Touqen> That's pretty awful. 18:47:00 <Bjarni> I consider that far worse than the railroad 18:48:00 <Bjarni> when my brother lived in an apartment he once invited the guy from the apartment above his to visit him while the rest of his family were making the normal noise level 18:48:23 <Bjarni> then they freaked out as it was possible to hear where in the apartment they were and what music they were listening to 18:48:29 <Bjarni> almost what they were talking about 18:51:10 <Touqen> HEY, SO DID YOU TALK TO JENNY ABOUT HER HERPES? 18:51:20 <Touqen> 0_0 18:51:24 <Bjarni> LOL 18:53:50 *** Frostregen [~sucks@dslb-084-058-117-155.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 18:54:47 *** Frostregen [~sucks@dslb-084-058-117-155.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 19:03:18 <dih> <>< 19:08:47 <Mchl> when I told my neighbour, I can hear her and her boyfriend pretty well, she brought me a pair of ear plugs :P 19:09:49 <Bjarni> :) 19:10:06 <Touqen> he 19:10:07 <Touqen> h 19:10:58 <Bjarni> I once visited a guy in a dorm and the guy next door showed up and told that he wanted to play loud music and hoped that it wouldn't bother us too much and then he went inside his own room together with a woman 19:14:33 <Mchl> what kind of music was that? 19:15:37 <Bjarni> I can't remember 19:15:52 <Bjarni> but we all knew what noises it should hide :P 19:16:45 <Mchl> NSELN - noise suppresion by emision of louder noise 19:18:19 <Bjarni> http://homepage.mac.com/olsen/20061212_Staalormen.mp4 <-- I found a video of one of the steel trains. However it's a bit dated and not only do they not go that way anymore they are also operated by some other company 19:18:29 <Bjarni> and somehow I'm not sure that the wagons are the same 19:18:35 <Bjarni> they look somewhat smaller 19:21:30 * Bjarni wonders how many will idle in order to see it 19:22:02 *** Zahl [~Zahl@p549F1B4B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: (~_~]"] 19:23:48 *** Dark_Link^ [~glidegame@fw.dormnet.his.se] has quit [Quit: ( www.nnscript.com :: NoNameScript 4.2 :: www.regroup-esports.com )] 19:29:43 *** mikl [~mikl@adsl.peytz.dk] has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 19:33:45 *** Purno [~Purno@5357D37C.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:34:14 *** Frostregen [~sucks@dslb-084-058-117-155.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Quit: und weg] 19:35:43 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: peter1138 * r13363 /trunk/src/newgrf.cpp: -Codechange: Code duplication tidy up 19:35:43 *** ben_goodger [~ben@host217-44-220-18.range217-44.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 19:36:14 *** KritiK [~Maxim@78-106-215-142.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 19:38:56 <Wolf01> 'night 19:39:05 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@79.0.238.55] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 19:42:30 <ln> Bjarni: do danes go to Flensburg (often)? 19:42:43 <Bjarni> I think so 19:42:45 <Touqen> Not just any danes. 19:42:48 <Touqen> Great Danes! 19:43:05 <Touqen> I'm sorry. 19:43:09 <Bjarni> I think there is (or at least used to be) a train going from à rhus to Flensburg 19:43:27 <Bjarni> I presume that it would only be there if people actually used it 19:44:02 <Bjarni> but usually people show up in cars because then they can bring back more cargo 19:44:25 <Bjarni> so they enjoy the 16% VAT (compared to 25% in Denmark) 19:44:52 <ln> Bjarni: there was a grocery selling many sorts of alcohol and food. prices more visibly in DKK, euro prices only with small text. 19:46:24 <ln> Bjarni: germany's vat is 19% nowadays, btw 19:46:47 <LA> hmm.... ee... Bjarni! 19:46:54 <LA> :) 19:47:47 * LA feels terribly stupid (not for greeting bjarni though) 19:48:13 <ln> De bedes venligst kontrollere Deres bon inden De forlader butikkens omrÃ¥de da senere reklamation ikke er mulig !! 19:48:48 <LA> now.. Could anyone give me a link to 0.6.*0* win installer? 19:49:07 <LA> downloads page is... only 0.6.1 19:49:20 <LA> and in sourceforge I didn't see 0.6.0 too 19:49:27 <LA> :/ 19:49:28 <Belugas> look closer... 19:49:54 <LA> I know there is somewhere 19:50:02 <Bjarni> <ln> Bjarni: there was a grocery selling many sorts of alcohol and food <-- surprisingly they match the kind of stuff that's noteworthy cheaper in Germany 19:50:03 <LA> But I don't see where :( 19:50:30 <Bjarni> ln: http://www.student.dtu.dk/~s991088/ferries.jpg <-- the link you didn't want to download when you were in Germany 19:50:52 <Bjarni> you cheap bastard :P 19:51:17 *** Belugas [belugas@openttd.org] has left #openttd [] 19:51:20 <ln> even now i'm using pay-per-megabyte gprs basically, but i'll open it now. 19:51:45 <LA> There is *development downloads(nightlys)* and *downloads (only _latest_ stable :/ )* 19:51:51 <Bjarni> why not use flatrate like the rest of us? :) 19:52:22 <Bjarni> LA: you can go to sourceforge and download all the stables if you like 19:52:43 <Bjarni> I don't know why you would want to do so though 19:52:45 <Prof_Frink> Pfft 19:52:49 <ln> i've recently moved into a new apartment, and i only placed order for DSL yesterday. 19:52:53 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: peter1138 * r13364 /trunk/src/newgrf.cpp: -Codechange: Refactor action 3 mapping to use grf_load_*() instead of direct byte array access. 19:52:56 <Prof_Frink> You only need as many stables as you have horses. 19:53:11 <Bjarni> you mean I need 750? 19:53:44 *** Brianetta [~brian@77-103-231-158.cable.ubr05.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 19:53:45 <Bjarni> oh you meant real horses 19:53:50 <Bjarni> I thought you meant engine power 19:53:53 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.230.1] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:54:07 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.230.1] has joined #openttd 19:54:15 <Prof_Frink> Only 750? 19:54:17 *** [alt]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 19:54:30 <LA> here I already have been http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=103924 19:54:31 <Bjarni> 750 can be a lot 19:54:33 <Prof_Frink> A class 43 has 2,250 19:54:36 <Bjarni> it depends on how you use it 19:54:39 <LA> and there are only 0.6.1 19:54:44 <Prof_Frink> Beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeem bawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwm! 19:54:50 <LA> woo 19:54:52 <LA> a link 19:55:00 <LA> view older releases 19:55:06 *** Belugas [belugas@openttd.org] has joined #openttd 19:55:07 *** mode/#openttd [+o Belugas] by ChanServ 19:55:07 <Bjarni> :) 19:55:28 <Bjarni> <Prof_Frink> A class 43 has 2,250 <-- I bet they come at a price 19:55:47 <Prof_Frink> Yeah, they make a very nice loud noise 19:55:48 <LA> and why do I need it? Because most multiplayer hosts are either dumb, stupid or lazy 19:55:58 <LA> and have not updated 19:56:09 <LA> and I feel like playing some mp game 19:56:57 <Bjarni> wtf 19:57:05 <Bjarni> class 43 is not listed on railfan :s 19:57:18 <Prof_Frink> It may be under 125 or HST 19:57:50 <LA> rofl on server names: only trains 19:58:00 <LA> or expert-zone 19:58:01 <LA> :P 19:58:17 <LA> hardcore - only trains* 19:58:30 *** tokai|ni [~tokai@p54B81555.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:58:51 <Bjarni> ahh 19:58:53 <Bjarni> that one 19:58:54 <SmatZ> hehe 19:59:10 <Bjarni> then I don't even have to look it up 19:59:15 <SmatZ> hardcore - noair noship norv notrains 19:59:37 <Bjarni> isn't that a bit tricky 19:59:40 <LA> SmatZ: easy 19:59:49 <Bjarni> how? 19:59:54 <LA> stocks 19:59:59 <LA> if it's enaled 20:00:03 <Bjarni> how will you have a bigger vehicle empire than the other players? 20:00:05 <LA> enabled* 20:00:07 *** tokai|ni [~tokai@p54B826B0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 20:00:12 <LA> richer than others 20:00:14 <Bjarni> we need airships 20:00:15 <SmatZ> hehe 20:00:20 <LA> seaplanes 20:00:31 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:00:31 *** [alt]buster is now known as [com]buster 20:00:50 <Bjarni> horses look funny in SimuTrans 20:00:53 *** Hendikins|SRA412 is now known as Hendikins 20:01:01 <Bjarni> but not very useful 20:01:04 <Bjarni> they are cheap though 20:01:15 <LA> well livestock looks funny in industrial station set too 20:01:25 <Bjarni> costs nearly nothing to make one station cover a whole town if you take one horse to connect it 20:04:43 <LA> who is noob enough to leave realistic acceleration off on a server? :o 20:04:51 <LA> Can't find ANY decent servers 20:05:06 <LA> maybe dihedral's fairplay 20:05:18 <Belugas> or crazy enough to keep it on... 20:05:23 <Belugas> "realistic"... 20:05:27 <Belugas> buwhahahahah!!!! 20:05:41 <LA> better than the default one 20:05:53 <Belugas> matter of perspective ;) 20:07:00 <LA> no 20:07:16 <LA> trains slowing down on corners good 20:07:40 <LA> trains slowing down VERY much on a slope not good 20:08:02 <LA> and that's where my knowledge of the realistic acceleration ends :D 20:08:03 <Bjarni> slowdown should be a matter of power/weight and such 20:08:06 <Belugas> matter of perspective, once more... 20:09:11 <Belugas> don't take YOUR vision of things as THE vision... 20:11:31 <SmatZ> realistic acceleration is good 20:11:33 <SmatZ> but slow 20:11:42 <SmatZ> ~10% of CPU time (well, not THAT slow) 20:23:03 <LA> Belugas: May I take it as the my vision? 20:27:56 *** dR3x4cK [~Miranda@p5499F3C3.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: dR3x4cK] 20:28:33 <Belugas> nope. only YOUR , not THE 20:29:45 <Belugas> DaleStan, peter1138, am I wrong in assuming that variable FD is not free to use, as it is overlapping F2 in http://wiki.ttdpatch.net/tiki-index.php?page=VarAction2Vehicles ? 20:30:05 <Belugas> and thus it can be used, in fact 20:30:47 <DaleStan> All 80+x vehicle variables are defined and usable. 20:31:30 <DaleStan> That is, for vehicles, all variables 80..FF have defined values. 20:32:19 <Belugas> so i need to go the other way, then. like 49, maybe? 20:33:37 <Belugas> or, to have a more general question: which free var id can i take? 20:33:59 <Belugas> for vehicle, that is... 20:34:55 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.230.1] has quit [Quit: ecke] 20:35:21 <DaleStan> Depends on the variable. There are actually some spaces in the vehicle structure, so anything that TTDPatch needs to save can go in 80+x. Anything else goes in 40+x or 60+x. 20:36:54 <Belugas> long format year of counstruction. From year 0, and not from 1920. In Open, it's a value already avaible as it natively 20:37:14 <Belugas> I doubt it is as native in Patch, tough 20:38:44 <DaleStan> Year or date? 20:40:01 <Belugas> Year indeed. The equivalent of C4, infact 20:40:11 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.231.53] has joined #openttd 20:40:53 <Belugas> note that date can be introduced too, does not matter. But right now, only year is the subject of the request :) 20:41:06 *** [alt]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 20:44:26 *** Slowpoke_ [~Lobster@dslb-088-073-241-012.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 20:45:01 <DaleStan> Oh. Never mind. I was miscounting. There's one free byte in that structure. Looks to me like var 49 is the place to put it. 20:45:52 <Maedhros> good night, one and all 20:45:56 *** trd [~trd@217-13-28-178.dd.nextgentel.com] has joined #openttd 20:45:59 <Belugas> perfect :) thanks. Slot is reserved. Will be commited (and documented) sometimes during the week 20:46:09 <Belugas> bye Maedhros :) 20:46:19 *** Maedhros [~jc@host86-137-64-250.range86-137.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: leaving] 20:46:47 <DaleStan> I was thinking for a while that there were two free bytes. 20:47:21 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:47:21 *** [alt]buster is now known as [com]buster 20:47:37 <Belugas> in vehicle structure? 20:51:03 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.231.53] has quit [Quit: ecke] 20:52:53 <Bjarni> goodnight 20:52:54 *** Bjarni [~Bjarni@62.243.161.248] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:53:58 *** DaleStan is now known as Guest1028 20:53:59 *** DaleStan [~Dale@c-98-223-83-70.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 20:54:53 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.231.53] has joined #openttd 20:55:30 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.231.53] has quit [] 20:56:01 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.231.53] has joined #openttd 21:00:34 *** Guest1028 [~Dale@c-98-223-83-70.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:04:29 *** TinoM [~Tino@i59F5542A.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 21:05:13 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1D17B.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:06:00 <DaleStan> Belugas: Yes. TTDPatch has 1 free byte in the vehicle structure. There's a relatively simple, well-defined, system for adding new information (both saved and unsaved) but it doesn't directly increase the data available via 80+x variables. 21:09:22 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.231.53] has quit [Quit: ecke] 21:09:52 *** [alt]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 21:11:05 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.231.53] has joined #openttd 21:11:23 <Belugas> good night all 21:11:34 <Belugas> thanks DaleStan, btw 21:12:06 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:12:06 *** [alt]buster is now known as [com]buster 21:12:36 *** Mchl [~mchl@abeu200.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Quit: Bye] 21:20:38 *** Mido [~chatzilla@H229.C192.cci.switchworks.net] has joined #openttd 21:20:56 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:20:56 <Eddi|zuHause2> <Mchl> technically we have no real night this time of year (and you neither I suppose) <- i'm not sure what you are talking about, but it is completely dark here 21:21:53 <Mido> Would anybody be interested in starting a 0.6.1 multiplayer game? Seeing as hardly any of the servers online have upgraded yet. 21:24:31 <Mido> o rite nobody ever talks here. 21:26:05 <SmatZ> it will take some time 21:26:12 <SmatZ> until people upgrade servers 21:26:40 <SmatZ> I am not sure how many server admins are here 21:26:48 *** LA [~lord@ip235.cab20.ltln.starman.ee] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:29:12 *** ecke1 [~ecke@213.195.231.53] has joined #openttd 21:29:12 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.231.53] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:36:42 *** egladil [~egladil@83.233.80.249] has joined #openttd 21:38:08 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@snat1.spoje.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 21:41:03 *** lagann [~terminal@c-66-30-110-51.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:41:42 *** lagann [~terminal@c-66-30-110-51.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 21:42:39 *** Aerandir [magic.powe@90-230-201-111-no37.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [Quit: - nbs-irc 2.39 - www.nbs-irc.net -] 21:44:58 *** Mido [~chatzilla@H229.C192.cci.switchworks.net] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.82.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.14/2008040413]] 21:45:08 *** ecke1 [~ecke@213.195.231.53] has quit [Quit: ecke1] 21:45:58 *** soultrain [~soultrain@75.117.108.36] has joined #openttd 21:51:25 *** soultrain [~soultrain@75.117.108.36] has quit [Quit: Bye for now!] 21:57:47 *** DaveWorley [~dave@62.6.161.178] has joined #openttd 21:57:59 <DaveWorley> Evening gentlemen. 21:58:32 <Eddi|zuHause2> somebody set up us the bomb... no wait, that was something different :p 21:58:40 <DaveWorley> Hah. Nice, nice. 21:59:10 <DaveWorley> Okay so I'm sure you've all seen my post in OTTD Problems - I'm suspicious that it might be because 0004tom has green squares next to his grfs, whilst mine are blue. 21:59:16 <DaveWorley> Can someone advise regards what I may be doing wrong? 22:00:18 <Eddi|zuHause2> i am going to bed... must get up early 22:03:03 <Ammler> DaveWorley: blue squares ingame? 22:03:39 *** Farden [~jk3farden@ram94-7-82-232-189-236.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: ( www.nnscript.com :: NoNameScript 4.2 :: www.regroup-esports.com )] 22:03:53 <DaveWorley> Well actually, having checked your Wiki, it appears this is standard behaviour. 22:04:12 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-225-75.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:04:14 <DaveWorley> I'm having trouble activating TTRS in OTTD - although some buildings are appearing (hotel, petrol station), others arenot. 22:04:21 <Ammler> blue are grfs in the list before start 22:04:57 <DaveWorley> What difference does this have to those in green, as I can see in 0004tom's screenshot? 22:05:10 <Ammler> I meant before activating 22:05:30 <Ammler> you need to activate thos, imo 22:05:50 <DaveWorley> And how do I go about this? 22:06:25 <Ammler> the button is called "apply changes" 22:06:36 <Ammler> in the same window right bottom 22:06:38 <DaveWorley> Yes but they still appear as blue even then. 22:06:47 <Ammler> ingame? 22:07:00 <Ammler> means after start of a new game? 22:07:02 *** helb [~helb@84.244.90.203] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:07:17 <DaveWorley> Yes but I would like them active from the start. 22:07:26 <DaveWorley> Which means I don't think this blue/green square difference is relevant. 22:07:58 <Ammler> yeah, they will 22:08:25 <Ammler> every blue before start should become green or red 22:08:41 <DaveWorley> Oh yeah. THey're all green 22:08:48 <DaveWorley> But still no show from the TTRS buildings. 22:09:37 <Ammler> did you try with TTRS only? 22:10:34 <DaveWorley> Yeah. Same again 22:11:23 *** helb [~helb@84.244.90.203] has joined #openttd 22:11:24 <DaveWorley> Getting standard roads, no buildings, etc. 22:11:37 *** Gekz [~brendan@123-243-206-102.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #openttd 22:11:57 <Ammler> DaveWorley: screen? 22:11:59 *** Aerandir [magic.powe@90-230-201-111-no37.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #openttd 22:12:04 <DaveWorley> just a second 22:12:27 <DaveWorley> Will have to upload to the forum because my webspace is malfunctioning at the minute... You can question orudge about that ;) 22:13:12 *** Pikka [~PikkaBird@CPE-58-165-98-32.qld.bigpond.net.au] has quit [] 22:13:22 <orudge`> malfunctioning? 22:13:24 *** Touqen [~stephen@c-98-216-253-146.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:13:26 <orudge`> seems fine to me 22:13:27 *** Gekz_ [~brendan@123-243-206-102.static.tpgi.com.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:13:27 <orudge`> at least 22:13:28 <orudge`> my sites are 22:14:15 <DaveWorley> :P 22:14:16 <DaveWorley> Well 22:14:24 <DaveWorley> I don't know, hotlinking is allowed across all my webspace 22:14:33 <DaveWorley> But none of the images I was linking to in another forum were working. 22:14:41 <DaveWorley> Possibly a forum issue, but I got frustrated and shouty and gave up. 22:14:56 *** waldo [~waldo@ip-81-11-192-155.dsl.scarlet.be] has joined #openttd 22:15:11 <DaveWorley> Ammler: http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=37801&p=696017#p696017 22:15:36 <DaveWorley> It doesn't help that I have to use cPanel because of this ridiculous block on FTP usage in these halls. 22:16:05 *** XeryusTC is now known as Xeryus|bnc 22:16:12 <Ammler> DaveWorley: looks like you added TTRS after start 22:16:32 <waldo> got a request ... going in bluntly ;) 22:16:41 <Ammler> oh, forum tells you are using roest patch pack 22:16:42 <DaveWorley> But I added it in the opening screen - I think I may be missing something, do I need to add it before I open the app? 22:16:57 <Ammler> hmm 22:16:58 <DaveWorley> Yes... But so does 0004tom, and it works for him. 22:17:16 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.231.53] has joined #openttd 22:17:38 <Ammler> DaveWorley: your GRF might be outdated 22:17:45 <Ammler> not compatible with ottd 22:17:52 <Ammler> use 3.02a 22:17:55 <waldo> i'm running openttd on the eeePC .. it only has a 800*480 screen and thus in the intro screen the dialog goes off screen .. i have to use randr (resize and rotate) to put the screen in landscape mode to get beyond that screen .. for the rest it work like a charm 22:18:24 <DaveWorley> Yeah, possibly it. Let me try that - It's been so long since I played I don't remember what I've got of which. I'll let you know in a sec. 22:18:26 <waldo> sry i have to put it in portrait mode to fix it 22:18:38 <Ammler> http://users.skynet.be/florisjan/ttd/ttrs.html 22:18:46 <DaveWorley> Cheers for that son 22:20:58 *** Touqen [~stephen@c-98-216-253-146.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 22:21:46 <DaveWorley> Quite. Thank you Ammler. 22:22:03 <Ammler> You are welcome... 22:22:05 <DaveWorley> It's been so long since I played either flavour of the game that I've forgotten what GRF is at what stage and so on. Updating did sort me out. 22:22:05 *** tomas [~tomas@d58-104-51-31.dsl.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 22:22:11 <tomas> hey all 22:22:28 <DaveWorley> To the boat! Thank you again. 22:22:30 *** DaveWorley [~dave@62.6.161.178] has left #openttd [] 22:22:31 <tomas> just a question is there away in openttd to do a sandbox game 22:22:50 <Prof_Frink> tomas: Well, you can cheat 22:22:53 <tomas> how 22:23:01 <Prof_Frink> ctrl-alt-c 22:23:10 <tomas> and what are the cheats 22:23:40 <Prof_Frink> Fairly obvious. 22:23:57 <tomas> ? 22:24:28 <Prof_Frink> Well, the window that pops up when you press ctrl-alt-c explains all. 22:24:38 <Ammler> tomas: use that combination and you will see those... 22:25:33 <tomas> ok thanks 22:25:49 <Eddi|zuHause2> waldo: maybe you have an invalid "resolution=XXXX" line in your config file? 22:26:13 <waldo> will try tnx 22:26:54 <Eddi|zuHause2> on such small resoltions it'd probably make sense to start in full screen 22:28:03 *** Brianetta [~brian@77-103-231-158.cable.ubr05.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [Quit: TschÃŒÃ] 22:35:33 *** ooo4tom [~Tom@92.2.192.175] has joined #openttd 22:35:42 *** Dred_furst [~Dred_furs@resnet725.bournemouth.ac.uk] has joined #openttd 22:36:09 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.231.53] has quit [Quit: ecke] 22:36:26 <ooo4tom> any one got any idea;s why Dave isn't able to get TTRS working ? 22:36:42 <ooo4tom> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=37801 22:37:17 <ooo4tom> i know it's a patched version, but i'm able too, i habn't got any other ideas :( 22:38:43 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.231.53] has joined #openttd 22:40:02 <Sacro> ooo4tom: cos he's "special" 22:40:18 <SmatZ> hehe 22:40:43 <glx> ooo4tom: too late :) 22:41:28 <ooo4tom> too late ? you mean it's been solved ? 22:41:38 <glx> yes he was using an old ttrs 22:42:10 <ooo4tom> lmao hence my post, not 15 minutes ago lol 22:42:29 <Sacro> ooo4tom: and my using? 22:42:40 <ooo4tom> should come here more often 22:42:52 <ooo4tom> pardon ? i don't quite follow ? 22:43:28 <glx> it's just Sacro 22:44:01 <Sacro> ooo4tom: you said "and your using"... 22:44:10 <Sacro> my response is "and my using"? 22:44:17 <Sacro> it should be you're 22:45:27 <ooo4tom> right, if i've with it, then i say, i'm using TTRSv3.02a is this the answer your looking for :s 22:45:51 <Sacro> "and your using TTRSv3" 22:45:59 <Sacro> and my using TTRSv3 what? 22:46:04 <Sacro> unless you mean you are 22:46:23 *** Zahl [~Zahl@p549F1B4B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 22:46:51 <ooo4tom> sorry dude, you've complety laost me now 22:48:31 *** Aerandir [magic.powe@90-230-201-111-no37.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [Quit: - nbs-irc 2.39 - www.nbs-irc.net -] 22:50:43 *** ben_goodger [~ben@host217-44-220-18.range217-44.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 22:52:50 *** ooo4tom [~Tom@92.2.192.175] has left #openttd [] 22:54:06 *** Aerandir [magic.powe@90-230-201-111-no37.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #openttd 22:54:37 *** Gekz [~brendan@123-243-206-102.static.tpgi.com.au] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:56:17 *** tomas [~tomas@d58-104-51-31.dsl.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 22:58:00 *** Zahl [~Zahl@p549F1B4B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:02:11 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: rubidium * r13365 /trunk/src/settings.cpp: -Fix: don't segfault on trying to set a non-existing patch setting. 23:04:33 *** Osai is now known as Osai^zZz 23:05:23 *** waldo [~waldo@ip-81-11-192-155.dsl.scarlet.be] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 23:07:38 *** divo [~asd@x1-6-00-18-39-d3-e9-f6.k899.webspeed.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:14:04 *** DaleStan [~Dale@c-98-223-83-70.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:25:32 *** blaab [~Oblivious@3E339CE3.dslaccess.aol.com] has joined #openttd 23:25:45 <blaab> how to load a scenario in linux on dedi? ;s 23:26:29 <blaab> i try the -g thing but no workie 23:26:29 <glx> same way as for a savegame 23:27:28 <blaab> Game Load Failed 23:27:28 <blaab> File not readable 23:28:06 <glx> and you can load it in a non dedicated? 23:28:19 <blaab> yea i got same scenario on my pc 23:29:00 <glx> maybe it has been corrupted during transfert 23:29:01 *** DaleStan [~Dale@c-98-223-83-70.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 23:29:17 <blaab> could be, using wget to get db download links sux balls 23:29:28 <blaab> meh 23:29:30 * blaab tries ftp 23:29:40 <Sacro> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=696029#p696029 23:29:43 *** Lev [~thomas@z037133.its-s.tudelft.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:29:56 * Sacro votes for lack of zlib 23:30:07 *** thgergo [~Administr@dsl51B60EC5.pool.t-online.hu] has left #openttd [] 23:31:23 <blaab> lol the wgetted one was 187kb the normal one 162 :s 23:43:35 *** Dred_furst [~Dred_furs@resnet725.bournemouth.ac.uk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:53:26 <blaab> it loads saves, but not scenarios :s 23:54:59 *** Digitalfox [~Digitalfo@bl7-180-79.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:55:41 <blaab> ./openttd -g saves\North\ West\ Europe.scn -D ---- ./openttd -g scenario/North\ West\ Europe.scn -D --./openttd -g North\ West\ Europe.scn -D 23:55:57 *** tokai|ni [~tokai@p54B826B0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:57:30 *** tokai|ni [~tokai@p54B841F6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 23:59:29 <blaab> meh