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00:04:32 <worldemar> they are useful ) 00:05:29 *** sigmund [~sigmund@91.80-202-245.nextgentel.com] has joined #openttd 00:07:18 *** sigmund_ [~sigmund@91.80-202-245.nextgentel.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:07:49 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-228-38.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:11:42 <Wolf01> 'night 00:11:50 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host114-234-dynamic.21-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 00:12:43 *** Osai is now known as Osai^zZz 00:14:54 *** KritiK [~Maxim@93-80-0-142.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:23:35 *** Zorn [zorn@e177228057.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:24:59 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 00:25:51 *** Zorn [zorn@e177228057.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 00:31:00 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:31:00 *** [com]buster is now known as Combuster 00:32:48 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77B04.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 00:33:23 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77C81.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 00:39:15 *** wollollo [~martin@dyn1076-109.hor.ic.ac.uk] has quit [Quit: leaving] 00:44:49 *** UFO64 [~jmurray@murrayjm8.umeres.maine.edu] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:56:22 <worldemar> 4:45, and it's time to sleep for a while... 01:03:01 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B83DDB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 01:03:03 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 01:06:27 <De_Ghosty> what we really need is signal in tunnels and bridges :D 01:13:52 *** Dred_furst` [~Dred_furs@resnet685.bournemouth.ac.uk] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:20:40 <Eddi|zuHause> go ahead ;) 01:26:46 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 01:26:46 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:26:50 *** [com]buster is now known as Combuster 01:34:23 *** ProfFrink [~proffrink@5ad545c5.bb.sky.com] has joined #openttd 01:39:59 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@5ad545c4.bb.sky.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:39:59 *** ProfFrink is now known as Prof_Frink 01:45:30 *** SHRIKEE [~shrikee@84-105-52-118.cable.quicknet.nl] has quit [Quit: SHRIKEE] 01:50:28 *** el_en [~lanurmi@dyn-xdsl-83-150-113-243.nebulazone.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:56:49 *** Vaevictus [~vae@c-76-26-235-51.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 01:57:26 *** Zahl [~Zahl@g228082126.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Quit: Rhabarberbarbarabarbarbarenbartbarbierbierbar] 01:57:59 <Vaevictus> good evening all! i started playing with heightmaps with 0.6.3, and it seems like it never generates bubble factories. can anyone reproduce this symptom? (seems to work fine with normal generation) 02:09:02 <kd5pbo> Is there a handy way to get the channel bot to report the latest changes to trunk? 02:09:21 <Eddi|zuHause> @openttd commit 02:09:22 <DorpsGek> Eddi|zuHause: Commit by rubidium :: r15287 trunk/src/saveload/saveload.cpp (2009-01-27 21:51:06 UTC) 02:09:23 <DorpsGek> Eddi|zuHause: -Cleanup: some code style, remove erroneous comment. 02:09:24 <DorpsGek> Eddi|zuHause: -Document: the fact that zlib reads uninitialised data (valgrind notices this) and that it won't be fixed in zlib and that we can't do anything about it except ignoring it. 02:09:54 <kd5pbo> Any way to get the past N commits? 02:10:27 <Eddi|zuHause> yes, you can give a number. but talk to the bot in private 02:10:39 <kd5pbo> Will do. 02:11:14 <Eddi|zuHause> much easier would be to get an svn checkout and use svn log, though :p 02:11:20 <kd5pbo> Well, true 02:12:49 <kd5pbo> Did the trick. 02:21:04 * Vaevictus looks at john mcmurray 02:23:06 <Vaevictus> (junior) 02:23:07 <Vaevictus> :) 02:29:33 <kd5pbo> Yeah, yeah. 02:29:40 <kd5pbo> C freaking Q. 02:29:41 * Vaevictus <-- kc0kef 02:29:42 <Vaevictus> :) 02:29:44 <Vaevictus> heh 02:29:50 <kd5pbo> HiHi 02:30:59 <Vaevictus> so ... anyone in here wanna fire up a copy of trunk or 063 to see if they also get no bubble factories when spawning a heightmap based map? 02:36:34 <Belugas> sounds like a real exciting activity 02:36:41 <Belugas> i'll pass the opportunity 02:38:26 <Vaevictus> heh 02:39:11 <Vaevictus> not that difficult... click candyland, click play heightmap, select a heightmap, check map for bubble factories :) 02:39:46 <Belugas> clicking on stuff ? yurk... too lazy to do that 02:39:56 <Vaevictus> heh 02:40:40 <Vaevictus> http://www.vaevictus.net/images/openttd_hm.png 02:42:47 *** Lakie [~Lakie@91.84.251.149] has quit [Quit: Sleep.] 02:45:36 <kd5pbo> What is that? 02:46:59 <Vaevictus> a heightmap :) 02:47:17 <Vaevictus> the black is sea level, the grey is a bit higher 02:47:18 <kd5pbo> Ah 02:51:56 <Belugas> honestly, as long as it works in trunk, i would not care too much about it. But somehow, i think i kind of remembering a fix about it, although i'm not too sure, to be honest 02:52:03 <Belugas> but it does work in trunk 02:52:24 <Vaevictus> yeah, works for me if it works in trunk. :) 02:52:30 <Vaevictus> there's apparently other issues too :) 02:53:47 *** Pikka [~PikkaBird@CPE-124-187-1-9.qld.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 02:54:32 <Pikka> There's a song that I recall my mother sang to me, she sang it as she tucked me in when I was ninety-three... 02:58:32 <Eddi|zuHause> the night reveals the weirdest kind of people :p 02:59:20 <Pikka> hello Eddi 03:00:55 <Belugas> adn it goes like this "tut tuut tuut tutututut" 03:00:59 <Aali> it's not night in .au 03:01:05 <Vaevictus> Belugas: you're sure it works in trunk? 03:01:18 *** TinoDidriksen [~projectjj@port432.ds1-od.adsl.cybercity.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:01:33 <Vaevictus> i get similar results in trunk 03:03:23 <Vaevictus> no bubble generator in candyland, no farm or forest in cold climate, 03:03:48 <Vaevictus> no water stuff in desert 03:04:27 <Vaevictus> no lumber mill either in desert 03:05:39 *** TinoDidriksen [~projectjj@port432.ds1-od.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 03:05:50 <Vaevictus> normal climate dosen't have bank, oil rig, or oil refinery, but that's probably "okay" 03:06:44 <Eddi|zuHause> banks and oil rigs are not created on game generation 03:06:47 <Vaevictus> genertated a max size world... about 380+ of each type, but zero bubble generators 03:06:57 <Vaevictus> Eddi|zuHause: that's why i said it was "okay" 03:06:57 <Vaevictus> :) 03:14:18 <Vaevictus> Eddi|zuHause: what about forests and farms in the cold climate? 03:14:44 <Eddi|zuHause> Vaevictus: forests only above, farms only below snow line 03:15:08 <Vaevictus> hmm 03:15:20 <Vaevictus> lemme make a new heightmap with a bit more variance 03:15:40 <Vaevictus> i suppose there's an area in between with neither? 03:16:13 <Belugas> well... unless my repo is too heavily broken up, i'd say it does work 03:16:27 <Vaevictus> Belugas: what heightmap are you using? 03:16:50 <Belugas> a litebrite designe made for my son 03:17:15 <Belugas> ther is NO difference whatsoever in the generation process 03:17:39 <Belugas> therefor, it might very well be your heighmaps that do not provide required landscape 03:17:57 <Vaevictus> Belugas: i'd hope so. :) 03:18:33 *** UFO64 [~jmurray@cpe-72-224-200-69.maine.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 03:20:52 <Belugas> make a test, run a very flat heighmap and see what it does 03:20:59 <Belugas> experiment, in other words 03:21:06 <Vaevictus> i'm working on that already :) 03:21:53 * Vaevictus fires up the test 03:22:20 <Vaevictus> look ... a farm. in the middle of my "generating world" view 03:22:21 <Vaevictus> lol 03:22:44 * Vaevictus blames it all on mspaint ;) 03:23:51 <Belugas> as soon as you have ms in your stuff, you know you'll going to blame... ms for it :) 03:23:51 <Eddi|zuHause> s/paint// 03:23:58 <Vaevictus> looks like a big area in the middle altitudes with neither forest nor farms... and happens to contain #808080 03:23:59 <Tefad> NEEDS MORE RAYTRACED EXPLOSIONS 03:24:05 <Vaevictus> which was my color :) 03:24:47 <Vaevictus> bubble generators too :) 03:24:56 <Vaevictus> thanks Belugas ... you're a genius... 03:25:09 <Vaevictus> is there any page somewhere which lists altitude requirements? 03:25:39 <Belugas> Vaevictus, not a genius at all, believe me 03:25:49 <Belugas> simple logic and knowledge of the system :) 03:26:03 <Belugas> as for the wiki, dunno 03:26:20 <Eddi|zuHause> src/table/industry_land.h i'd say ;) 03:26:44 <Belugas> let say wiki is not really my first reference tool :) 03:26:53 <Belugas> yup to Eddi|zuHause 03:28:01 <Eddi|zuHause> or src/table/build_industry.h 03:29:21 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.202.130] has joined #openttd 03:31:54 *** TinoDidriksen [~projectjj@port432.ds1-od.adsl.cybercity.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:32:05 *** UFO64 [~jmurray@cpe-72-224-200-69.maine.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:35:48 *** TinoDidriksen [~projectjj@port432.ds1-od.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 03:35:54 <Vaevictus> hmm... can't find it 03:37:18 <Belugas> Use The Source, Luke 03:37:34 <Vaevictus> yeah, working on it. 03:37:36 <Vaevictus> not finding it 03:37:40 <Belugas> Let The POWER of the SVN be always with Ya 03:37:56 <Vaevictus> i'm looking at those files you mentioned... 03:38:12 <Belugas> build_industry.h is THE file to look for 03:38:25 <Vaevictus> yeah... didn't see anything relevant the first time around 03:42:41 <Vaevictus> i'm guessing it's the CHECK_FOREST 03:42:43 <Vaevictus> or something 03:47:40 <Belugas> or somehting maybe... i'd may be tempted to look for SLOPE_STEEP or something alike :) 03:48:07 <Vaevictus> that looks like it's related to graphics 03:48:10 <Vaevictus> could be though 03:48:14 *** kd5pbo1 [~kd5pbo@136.242.106.192] has joined #openttd 03:48:32 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:48:45 *** kd5pbo [~kd5pbo@136.242.109.216] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:48:55 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 03:51:14 <kd5pbo1> http://jobsearch.usajobs.gov/getjob.asp?JobID=78147865&brd=3876&AVSDM=2009-01-20+16%3A01%3A49&q=historian&sort=rv&vw=d&Logo=0&FedPub=Y&FedEmp=N&ss=0&TabNum=1&rc=3 03:51:17 <kd5pbo1> Oops. 03:51:28 <kd5pbo1> Anybody wanna work as an army historian? 03:51:35 <kd5pbo1> I meant to send it to someone else. 03:51:36 *** kd5pbo1 is now known as kd5pbo 03:52:45 <Vaevictus> Belugas/ Eddi|zuHause : i'm lost in the code. i still think it's related to CHECK_FOREST and the CheckProc enum... but i don't know where that gets applied 03:54:43 <Belugas> kd5pbo, i'm totally halergic to anything that touches from deep nor far to army stuff... so... no thanks 03:55:06 <kd5pbo> A history major friend is looking for a job. 03:55:41 <Belugas> Vaevictus, you are on a goose chase/ the code works fine 03:55:59 <Belugas> kd5pbo, a lot of people are looking for a job 03:56:14 <Vaevictus> Belugas: i concur, the code works fine. but i want to design a good height map :) 03:56:45 <kd5pbo> Life as a CS major is good. 03:58:47 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: bye] 03:59:31 <Belugas> life as a programmer is good 03:59:34 <Belugas> andf fuck the army 04:00:09 <Belugas> Vaevictus, i do undestand 04:01:16 *** Zorni [zorn@e177224059.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 04:03:07 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@ip-105.imafexbb.sk] has quit [Quit: Quit] 04:03:17 <Belugas> just note that the bubble factory needs flat ground 04:03:45 <Vaevictus> and a certain altitude :) 04:07:41 <Vaevictus> looks like bub gens are 50,100,and 150ft elevatoins 04:08:40 *** Zorn [zorn@e177228057.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:09:33 <Belugas> yup 04:09:35 <Belugas> static bool CheckNewIndustry_BubbleGen(TileIndex tile) 04:09:35 <Belugas> { 04:09:35 <Belugas> return GetTileZ(tile) <= TILE_HEIGHT * 4; 04:09:35 <Belugas> } 04:12:02 <Vaevictus> where's that? 04:12:12 <Vaevictus> forests start at 450' looks like 04:12:40 <Vaevictus> farms below 200' 04:14:30 <Vaevictus> and in desert, water stuff below 150' 04:14:32 <Belugas> that is in industr_cmd.cpp, around 1166 04:15:15 <Vaevictus> dang 04:15:18 <Vaevictus> i just barely missed that one 04:17:10 <Vaevictus> cool, thanks 04:17:14 * Vaevictus heads to bed! 04:23:06 <Belugas> so am i 04:23:22 <Belugas> newobjects is a little bit closer to reality now... 04:23:29 <Belugas> we'll see 04:23:30 <Belugas> night 04:25:04 <Vaevictus> thanks again 04:28:12 <Pikka> newobjects newobjects rah rah rah! *waves pompoms* 04:28:18 <Pikka> gnight guys 05:07:29 *** DephNet[Paul] [~paul@host86-145-26-37.range86-145.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:16:23 *** ccfreak2k [~ccfreak2k@ip-67-205-67-52.static.privatedns.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:16:36 *** DephNet[Paul] [~paul@host81-156-73-95.range81-156.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 05:20:21 *** ccfreak2k [~ccfreak2k@ip-67-205-67-52.static.privatedns.com] has joined #openttd 05:32:32 *** ccfreak2k [~ccfreak2k@ip-67-205-67-52.static.privatedns.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:34:01 *** Zorni [zorn@e177224059.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:48:30 *** DephNet[Paul] [~paul@host81-156-73-95.range81-156.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:54:24 *** ccfreak2k [~ccfreak2k@ip-67-205-67-52.static.privatedns.com] has joined #openttd 06:02:32 *** ccfreak2k [~ccfreak2k@ip-67-205-67-52.static.privatedns.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:03:28 *** roboboy [3aad2910@webchat.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 06:13:35 *** Wolle [Dr_Jekyll@p57B0C82B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 06:15:42 *** angelo [~angelo@ppp-94-65-230-56.home.otenet.gr] has quit [] 06:22:53 *** Singaporekid [~notme@cm172.psi140.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #openttd 06:23:53 <Pikka> hallo skiddles 06:48:51 *** DaleStan is now known as Guest126 06:48:53 *** DaleStan [~Dale@pool-71-98-104-215.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 06:53:56 *** Guest126 [~Dale@pool-71-98-104-215.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:12:07 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 07:12:07 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:12:10 *** [com]buster is now known as Combuster 07:27:08 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:33:41 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 07:33:49 <dihedral> morning 07:34:19 <Pikka> hello 07:36:11 <doc> is there a bug with pathfinding in the nightlies? 07:36:59 <Tefad> is there ever not a bug in pathfinding 07:37:00 <doc> I have a station off to one side on a route, for some trains to go to, but all trains seem to use the tracks that go towards it despite there being a shorter, straighter, path 07:37:02 <doc> hehe 07:37:08 <doc> it used not do that 07:38:26 <doc> ok, changing to npf fixed it 07:38:29 <Aali> it's not really a "bug" just because the pathfinder isn't 200% perfect 200% of the time 07:38:45 <doc> Aali: this was wrong 100% of the time 07:39:17 <Aali> well, if it doesn't do the same thing in the same situation every time, that's a bug 07:39:38 <Aali> but it can't handle all situations perfectly 07:39:45 <doc> it does do the same thing, the same wrong thing :) 07:40:08 <doc> think of a a track like this [station]=<| 07:40:20 <doc> the path it should have been following was straight up the | 07:40:25 <doc> instead it was using the < 07:41:28 <dihedral> doc: then check your rails!! 07:41:49 <dihedral> remove the connection to the < and see where the train has issues to pass 07:42:01 <doc> ok 07:42:11 <dihedral> perhaps you are using standard instead of electric at some point 07:42:20 <dihedral> are missing a track, or have a wrong signal 07:43:41 <dihedral> and perhaps you can upload a screenshot somewhere? 07:43:45 <doc> dihedral: hehe, nope, works perfectly when I remove a section of track 07:43:46 <doc> sure 07:45:21 *** Timitry [83dc24f1@webchat.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 07:46:25 *** Pikka [~PikkaBird@CPE-124-187-1-9.qld.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:48:47 <doc> dihedral: http://docsynack.dyndns.org/Screenshot-1.png 07:49:41 <dihedral> you should disable 90 degree turns for trains and such! 07:51:40 <doc> dihedral: I thought I had. Where's that in the settings again? but isn't that beside the point? 07:52:30 <dihedral> no, you want the train to go straight ahead, and that will make the train go straight ahead :-P 07:52:32 <Timitry> Somewhere under advanced settings ---> Vehicles ----> trains 07:53:20 <dihedral> also: where is that train heading to? it's not the station to the right of the main line is it? 07:54:13 <doc> dihedral: no, it's meant to be going straight ahead when it turns left 07:54:34 <doc> dihedral: i.e. staying on one of the two tracks that are parallel 07:54:48 <doc> .. and in the same direction 07:55:11 <Aali> doc: but is the destination actually reachable from that track? 07:55:18 <Aali> without reversing somewhere 07:55:31 <dihedral> what happens if you have a track that goes to the mainline track to the right? 07:55:33 <doc> Aali: yes, if I remove a chunk of the track (the one it's following under yapf) it follows the correct path 07:56:11 <doc> dihedral: sorry, you lost me 07:56:39 <Aali> doc: not good enough (because then there is no other path) 07:56:57 <doc> Aali: hmm? 07:57:26 <doc> under npf it works perfectly fine. Goes straight on the track. Under Yapf it goes to the left like the screenshot 07:57:48 <doc> no modifications to the track 07:58:48 <Aali> npf doesn't need to find a path all the way to its destination 07:58:50 <Aali> yapf does 07:59:01 <doc> ok, but it's still correct while yapf isn't 07:59:04 <Aali> if it can't, the train can do whatever it wants 07:59:14 <Aali> including stupid detours 07:59:36 <dihedral> doc: your 90 degree turns is the issue 07:59:48 <doc> dihedral: I can't switch that off in my settings 07:59:59 <doc> there's no option 08:00:02 <dihedral> you just have not found the setting 08:00:05 <doc> atleast not that I can see 08:00:06 <Aali> thats the main difference between npf and yapf, npf tries to get the train as close to the target as possible, yapf finds the exact route 08:00:08 <dihedral> and yes you can switch it off 08:00:32 <doc> ok, but why is it still finding the lesser optimal route in yapf? 08:00:47 <doc> (every time, not just randomly) 08:00:56 <doc> I can send you the savegame if you like 08:00:58 <dihedral> open the console 08:01:04 <dihedral> patch pf.forbid_90_deg true 08:01:22 *** el_en [~lanurmi@dyn-xdsl-83-150-113-243.nebulazone.fi] has joined #openttd 08:01:50 <doc> ok, testing 08:02:01 <Aali> doc: I already told you, if it can't find a route, it will just go around randomly until it can 08:02:16 <Aali> (pseudo-randomly, of course) 08:02:25 <doc> Aali: but it can find a route 08:02:34 <Aali> how do you know that? 08:02:41 <doc> because it's a straight line.. 08:02:55 <doc> dihedral: ok, that made a difference. 08:03:00 <Aali> the final destination is at the end of that line? 08:03:05 <doc> Aali: yes 08:03:24 <doc> it's going back onto the correct track, but it should never have taken that detour in the first place 08:03:25 <Timitry> And it can reach that destination without turning around in a station or a depot? 08:03:30 <Aali> and there are no bad signals, no non-electric tracks? 08:03:31 <doc> Timitry: yep 08:03:34 <doc> Aali: nope 08:03:49 <doc> Aali: when I remove a small (non-signal) section of the detour track it works perfectly 08:05:48 <Aali> assuming you have made a savegame already, try rebuilding the line all the way from the junction (where it makes the wrong turn) to the destination 08:06:01 <dihedral> perhaps yapf has an odd penalty setting for 90 degree turns :-P 08:06:06 <doc> hehe 08:06:26 <Aali> that would have been discovered earlier :P 08:06:28 <doc> well, other sections of the map require 90 degree turns so I have to switch it back on or stuff breaks :/ 08:06:35 *** Timitry [83dc24f1@webchat.mibbit.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:06:35 *** roboboy [3aad2910@webchat.mibbit.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:07:02 <doc> Aali: why rebuild it? it's working fine under a different pathfinder 08:07:19 *** SmoovTruck [~imptruck@174-154-117-222.pools.spcsdns.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:07:48 <Aali> .. 08:08:06 *** SmoovTruck [~imptruck@174-154-117-222.pools.spcsdns.net] has joined #openttd 08:08:14 <Aali> because if you do, we will know if it's a caching error in yapf or not 08:09:08 <doc> Aali: if I take out a chunk of track instead will it try to rebuild it? 08:09:12 <doc> (the cache) 08:09:21 <doc> I don't want to rebuild it all, pain in the ass 08:09:44 <Aali> err, it's a straight line 08:10:07 <doc> not at the station, it branches 08:11:01 <Aali> and now you tell me this? 08:11:32 <Aali> ah well, I'm bored, please go ahead and side-step the issue by using npf 08:12:28 <doc> what do you mean "now you tell me this?". If it was so relevant why didn't you ask. The destination isn't even close to where the problem is occurring. 08:13:01 *** roboboy [3aad2910@webchat.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 08:13:07 <dihedral> Aali: do you still have the password saving patch? 08:15:14 <Aali> doc: well I told you a couple of time that yapf needs to find the exact route from start to finish or trains will go into SUPERDUMB-mode but whatever 08:15:25 <Aali> dihedral: I do, this is like the third time you ask :P 08:15:31 <dihedral> :-D 08:15:47 <dihedral> yes - it's like the third time i think of it (plus i want to change the topic) :-D 08:16:06 <doc> Aali: and how am I supposed to know that that means you need to know about branching off at the destination? :/ 08:16:45 <dihedral> doc: afaik openttdcoop has junctions the size of your map, and they run a couple thousand trains on that, and never had that issue :-P 08:17:01 <doc> dihedral: fine, I'm making it up. 08:17:03 * doc shrugs 08:19:13 <Aali> dihedral: so do you want it or what? :P I haven't changed anything since last time, but I did accidentally test it since it's part of my patchpack and my server went into perpetual desync 08:19:43 <Aali> and it worked, even though it didn't really matter since all players involved had rcon and move capability 08:19:54 <dihedral> :-D 08:20:04 <dihedral> yes, i would love to see the patch 08:20:19 <dihedral> perhaps i can update it to current trunk and fix whatever the issue was :-P 08:20:41 <dihedral> would be quite nice if servers finally managed to secure companies after loading a savegame 08:20:50 <dihedral> (with the correct hashes) 08:21:07 <Aali> oh the issue I had was totally unrelated to that patch 08:21:45 <Aali> and the old version still applies to current trunk as far as I know 08:21:56 <Aali> but I'll upload the one from my patch repo for you 08:22:47 *** Yeggstry [~mind@cpc2-rdng14-0-0-cust631.winn.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 08:23:11 <dihedral> sweet :-) 08:23:13 <dihedral> thanks 08:25:05 <Aali> http://epj.no-ip.org/upl/wsave_company_passwords.patch 08:25:07 *** Yeggstry [~mind@cpc2-rdng14-0-0-cust631.winn.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:25:43 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@89.246.200.237] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:25:43 <Aali> there had been one small change since the saveload files were moved 08:25:47 <Aali> but that's it 08:26:10 <Aali> oh and the 'w' shouldn't be there, it's an artifact of the upload system 08:29:13 <dihedral> cute :-) 08:30:10 <Aali> it's not my upload system, it's not even my server :P 08:30:59 <dihedral> hehe 08:39:05 *** el_en [~lanurmi@dyn-xdsl-83-150-113-243.nebulazone.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:02:15 *** Roest [~schurade@p54B9CFD9.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 09:02:30 *** Yeggstry [~mind@cpc2-rdng14-0-0-cust631.winn.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 09:02:39 *** Retro [~retroip@195.91.80.107] has joined #openttd 09:04:41 <planetmaker> good morning 09:04:53 <Roest> mrng 09:07:20 <edeca> Hey 09:14:29 <dihedral> morning pm 09:15:33 <petern> "I have contacted the US Post Office and am seeking 09:15:34 <petern> prosecution of everyone involved, which includes you." 09:15:36 <petern> okay 09:15:47 <Roest> k 09:15:48 <petern> maybe my knowledge of US legal proceedings is a little lacking 09:15:49 <petern> but... 09:15:52 <petern> US Post Office? 09:17:24 <Roest> just wait till they come after you 09:17:40 <TinoDidriksen> There's no such thing, anyways. It's the US Postal Service. 09:18:00 <petern> Quite. 09:18:20 <petern> Also the word is "anyway." 09:32:50 <edeca> Involved in what? You rob another delivery truck? :) 09:44:18 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B83DDB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:46:07 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B81508.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 09:46:08 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 09:47:51 *** Timitry [83dc24f1@webchat.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 09:49:39 <Roest> hmm KDE4.2 for windows, now why would anyone want to do that 09:50:02 <edeca> Roest: amaroK on windows? 09:50:07 <edeca> Roest: Better than any other player I've used 09:50:53 <Roest> what does it do that winamp can't? 09:51:59 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 09:51:59 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:52:01 <dihedral> why would someone use windows in the first place? 09:52:04 *** [com]buster is now known as Combuster 09:52:24 <Rubidium> same reason someone wants OSX? 09:52:32 <dihedral> osx is good! 09:52:43 <dihedral> + it's a unix system 09:53:07 <Rubidium> too bad it throws away all unix goodiness 09:53:15 <Rubidium> like backward compatible APIs 09:53:41 <dihedral> yes, ok 09:56:39 <Rubidium> or backward compatible video card drivers for that matter 10:01:01 <edeca> Rubidium: But it's so pretty1 10:06:06 <Rubidium> a nuclear explosion is pretty too 10:06:40 *** Timitry [83dc24f1@webchat.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 10:07:21 <petern> raa, new monitor 10:07:26 <petern> 22" 1680x1050 :D 10:07:27 <thingwath> I have just installed KDE 4.2 (on fedora, though) and it looks great. 10:08:38 <Forked> petern: I have a couple of those at work. Good stuff :) 10:08:42 <thingwath> Hm, I could use new monitor too :) 10:08:54 *** DephNet[Paul] [~paul@host86-153-10-129.range86-153.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 10:09:17 <thingwath> If only that stupid intel driver could support screens larger than 2048x2048 properly... 10:10:33 <petern> it's got a dodgy patch in a corner :( 10:10:35 <petern> oh well 10:10:42 <petern> only where status bars go :p 10:11:21 <Eddi|zuHause> @calc (107-27)*5/9 10:11:21 <DorpsGek> Eddi|zuHause: 44.4444444444 10:24:09 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@161-18-80-78.strcechy.adsl-llu.static.bluetone.cz] has joined #openttd 10:29:04 *** DephNet[Paul] [~paul@host86-153-10-129.range86-153.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:32:13 *** DephNet[Paul] [~paul@host86-131-63-113.range86-131.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 10:32:18 <Eddi|zuHause> what actually happened to the per-vehicle-group-liveries? 10:34:25 <petern> i forgot about it :) 10:34:44 <goodger> it was rather nice 10:35:12 <goodger> it was useful for imitating FGW's insane livery schema 10:38:19 *** roboboy [3aad2910@webchat.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 10:41:43 *** DephNet[Paul] [~paul@host86-131-63-113.range86-131.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:43:06 *** snappy [naveen@armakuni.lastninja.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:45:38 *** Timitry [83dc24f1@webchat.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 10:50:04 *** snappy [naveen@armakuni.lastninja.net] has joined #openttd 10:56:18 <petern> it was? 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12:52:24 <|Japa|> I believe so 12:52:28 <|Japa|> I'll check 12:52:40 <Mortomes> Thanks 12:52:50 <petern> i think there's an ECS adapter for newships 12:53:41 <|Japa|> yes 12:53:50 <|Japa|> newshipa has an ECS adaptor 12:54:45 <Mortomes> Hmmm, the link to it in GRFCrawler seems to be dead 12:55:01 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 12:55:05 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 12:55:08 <Eddi|zuHause> there's a forum thread somewhere 12:57:25 <Mortomes> Turns out I already had it in the openttdcoop grfpack :P 13:04:42 <dihedral> yes, it would be in there :-P 13:07:01 <Belugas> fun hey, grab all grfs yo can find, withouth knowing what they are up to ;) 13:07:10 <Belugas> did I already said that, somewhere? 13:07:11 *** Rexxars [~rexxars@62.113.132.255] has joined #openttd 13:07:11 <Belugas> mmh... 13:07:30 *** ttdopen [~ttdopen@pierrew.de] has joined #openttd 13:08:56 <|Japa|> anybody here plays with cargodest? 13:10:37 <edeca> Nah, you're the only player ;) 13:11:45 <Roest> i still use paxdest, this new stuff is the devil 13:12:17 <dihedral> Belugas, deja vu 13:12:30 <petern> Belugas :D 13:12:52 <petern> it's the devil, eh? 13:15:10 <Roest> =) 13:24:37 <Mortomes> I play with cargodest, loving it 13:29:51 <Retro> on current version or you stopped at 14691 ? 13:31:10 <Mortomes> I uh.. have no idea 13:31:20 <Retro> great :) 13:31:24 <Mortomes> It says OpenTTD h3b244a8f at the top :P 13:31:40 <Retro> som I think you just have binary , you are not self compiler :) 13:31:56 <Mortomes> Yeah 13:34:19 *** ccfreak2k [~ccfreak2k@ip-67-205-67-52.static.privatedns.com] has joined #openttd 13:36:25 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: Yexo * r15288 /trunk/src/genworld_gui.cpp: -Fix (r15212): Don't set the newgame setting for water borders to a random value if it's 'random' when the newgame gui is opened. 13:38:00 *** sigmund_ [~sigmund@91.80-202-245.nextgentel.com] has joined #openttd 13:38:14 <|Japa|> it's hard to get all the pax transported 13:38:14 *** Swallow [~chatzilla@5355F5FD.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 13:39:09 *** lewymati [~lewymati@aeiz92.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #openttd 13:39:22 <|Japa|> apparently they got so pissed at one point, the loaded about 600 tonnes of m,ail into a carriage that could only hold 30 13:39:35 <|Japa|> just to get it out of hte station 13:39:49 *** sigmund [~sigmund@91.80-202-245.nextgentel.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:39:51 <Mortomes> hehe 13:40:14 <Mortomes> Yeah, it is really hard to transport all passengers once you've got a bunch of cities connected. 13:40:22 <Mortomes> Something needs to be tweaked there 13:40:27 <|Japa|> went from 0% to 255% several times 13:41:38 <|Japa|> the pax I was transporting weren't giving enough income for me to afford a new train to transport the rest on 13:46:44 <|Japa|> it's a shame I can't controll when they use the indian loading sceme 13:47:49 *** Retro [~retroip@195.91.80.107] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:48:21 *** Retro [~retroip@195.91.80.107] has joined #openttd 13:51:32 <dihedral> dbg: [net] recv failed with error 110 13:51:33 <dihedral> dbg: [net] recv failed with error 110 13:51:33 <dihedral> dbg: [ms] Vehicle 13 (index 952) arrived at wrong stop 13:51:33 <dihedral> dbg: [net] send failed with error 104 13:51:42 <dihedral> got a few of these .... 13:51:44 *** |Japa| [~Japa@117.201.96.117] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:51:58 <glx> network problems 13:52:37 <dihedral> so nothing i have to worry about 13:52:59 *** Osai^zZz is now known as Osai 13:53:09 <dihedral> do you know how i can find out why i am getting the nasty out of memory issues? 13:53:19 <Rubidium> 104 = connection reset by peer, 110 = connection timed out 13:53:27 <dihedral> perfect, thank you Rubidium 13:53:31 <Rubidium> dihedral: are you running AIs? 13:53:34 <dihedral> nope 13:53:46 <Rubidium> then I've got absolutely no idea 13:53:47 <dihedral> was not a single one loaded this time 13:56:07 <Rubidium> then I've got no idea 13:56:36 <Rubidium> if you want to know you should compile a debugbuild (level 3) and run that in valgrind --leak-check=full 13:56:38 <Roest> the situation improved though, we went from absolutely no idea to no idea 13:56:44 <Rubidium> and tell us where it leaks 13:58:34 <ccfreak2k> Keep a sponge handy to clean up the leaked bits. 14:00:26 *** nicfer [~nicfer@ulmo.lysator.liu.se] has joined #openttd 14:01:33 *** [SVK] [~retroip@195.91.80.107] has joined #openttd 14:01:45 *** el_en [~lanurmi@dyn-xdsl-83-150-113-243.nebulazone.fi] has joined #openttd 14:01:51 <edeca> ccfreak2k: I find it best to cook with them. Makes a nice marinade. 14:02:30 *** Retro [~retroip@195.91.80.107] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:07:51 <nicfer> I've seen on discovery channel various interesant futuristic methods of transport and some of them would be cool to see in ottd 14:08:49 <Eddi|zuHause> well, make a newgrf 14:09:21 <edeca> Heck, I hope the discovery channel isn't the source for other openttd features :\ 14:09:36 <edeca> newanimals.grf 14:09:42 *** dvs_ is now known as davis_ 14:09:43 *** davis_ is now known as davis- 14:09:46 <Roest> i saw on star trek some features i'd like to see in ottd 14:09:46 <nicfer> One of them is a car that can drive both on road and in a special rail 14:10:10 <Eddi|zuHause> cars running on rails is not exactly a new idea... 14:11:25 <nicfer> They acouple one each other to reduce the effects of wind 14:13:50 <Eddi|zuHause> and by coupling you lose exactly every advantage of cars... 14:14:01 <Eddi|zuHause> might as well just stuff them on a car transporter 14:14:25 <edeca> I saw an advert on TV where a guy wakes up and rides a waterchute to work through the city.. that would be pretty cool. 14:14:59 <petern> i want everything from futurama 14:15:03 <petern> in ottd 14:15:05 <petern> out of the box! 14:15:18 <Eddi|zuHause> travelling in pipes. funny ;) 14:15:30 <Eddi|zuHause> or did you mean suicide boxes? :p 14:15:59 <petern> all of it! 14:16:02 <Eddi|zuHause> or giant lady-bug-cows? 14:16:26 <nicfer> Are considerated futuristic things realistic? 14:16:36 <petern> what? 14:19:23 <edeca> nicfer: You can make a newgrf for anything you like. 14:21:04 *** Mortomes [~mortomes@i15108.upc-i.chello.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:22:41 *** Mortomes [~mortomes@77.166.163.108] has joined #openttd 14:31:00 *** frederyk [~frank@brln-4dba4431.pool.einsundeins.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:36:12 *** |Japa| [~Japa@117.201.96.117] has joined #openttd 14:38:05 *** Mortomes [~mortomes@77.166.163.108] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:38:39 *** Mortomes [~mortomes@i15108.upc-i.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 14:45:49 *** Mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.odnqu1.static.dsl.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 14:46:18 *** blathijs [~matthijs@drsnuggles.stderr.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:48:16 *** nicfer [~nicfer@ulmo.lysator.liu.se] has left #openttd [] 14:54:04 *** [SVK] [~retroip@195.91.80.107] has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- In tests, 0x09 out of 0x0A l33t h4x0rz prefer it :)] 14:56:32 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@ip-105.imafexbb.sk] has joined #openttd 15:01:09 *** Timitry [83dc24f1@webchat.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 15:06:23 *** blathijs [~matthijs@drsnuggles.stderr.nl] has joined #openttd 15:09:13 *** UFO64 [~jmurray@murrayjm8.umeres.maine.edu] has joined #openttd 15:10:17 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1F9BB.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 15:10:49 *** re06011988 [~wanoo@lns-bzn-27-82-248-12-229.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 15:10:56 *** re06011988 [~wanoo@lns-bzn-27-82-248-12-229.adsl.proxad.net] has left #openttd [] 15:18:55 *** Zahl [~Zahl@g228082126.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 15:19:58 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:20:24 *** TelSai [~123@pD9EB56C8.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 15:24:06 *** TinoM [~Tino@i59F5E0DE.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 15:24:33 *** TelSai [~123@pD9EB56C8.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: TelSai] 15:26:10 *** mikl [~mikl@80.199.116.190.static.peytz.dk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:38:58 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 15:39:02 <planetmaker> http://www.utwente.nl/nieuws/pers/en/cont_09-008_en.doc/ <-- hehe. If they make their point there'll be no holidays for pupils anymore :D 15:45:57 <SmatZ> hehehe 15:46:20 <SmatZ> also, productivity of most people is very low during weekends 15:46:38 <Roest> actually for me it's also low during weekdays 15:46:48 <SmatZ> :-D 15:47:22 <|Japa|> my productivity is low during days of the week that end in y 15:48:18 <SmatZ> :_D 15:48:23 <|Japa|> does OTTD have any cheats? 15:48:28 <edeca> |Japa|: Yes 15:48:30 <SmatZ> Ctrl+Alt+C 15:48:35 <|Japa|> ö 15:48:35 <Belugas> planetmaker, what did the commit that broke zuu's patch brough to trunk? 15:50:27 <planetmaker> hey Belugas :) 15:50:47 <planetmaker> Well... I read it such that there was "only" a missing update of a window fixed... 15:50:54 <dihedral> *** [GER] Timmaexx has started a new company (#11) <- the beauty of it :-P 15:51:10 *** Dred_furst [~Dred_furs@resnet658.bournemouth.ac.uk] has joined #openttd 15:52:34 <planetmaker> ... but then my guess is that I understand it somewhat wrongly... 15:52:55 <planetmaker> hm... let me guess: I "fixed" it such that it's now done twice? 15:55:32 <planetmaker> [16:47] <|Japa|> my productivity is low during days of the week that end in y <-- move to Germany then (or probably many other contries will suffice ;) ). Every day ends with a g exept Saturday in some regions. 15:56:30 <planetmaker> mÀh. And I forgot about Wednesday which is completely different, but w/o y none the less. 15:56:38 <SmatZ> "Sonnabend, der" interesting, never heard that 15:56:57 <Eddi|zuHause> well, it's the evening before the "Sonntag" 15:57:47 <planetmaker> :) 15:57:52 <Eddi|zuHause> similar to how the "Feierabend" used to be the evening before a "Feiertag" [Holiday] 15:58:07 <planetmaker> SmatZ: it's my impression it was used more often some years ago. 15:58:18 <Eddi|zuHause> "Feierabend" later expanded to be every evening, when you stop working 15:58:29 <SmatZ> :o) 15:59:07 *** UFO64 [~jmurray@murrayjm8.umeres.maine.edu] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:59:13 <Belugas> planetmaker, i may have been wrong then 15:59:25 <Belugas> what was the said revision? 16:00:03 <planetmaker> http://hg.openttd.org/openttd/trunk.hg/rev/c806ed7031be <-- r15273 16:05:52 <planetmaker> Belugas: can I conclude from your questions that part of it are going into trunk in the somewhat near future? :) 16:05:57 <Belugas> my fault, totally my fault 16:06:04 <planetmaker> no worries :) 16:06:12 <petern> don't assume, or conclude, anything :p 16:06:18 <planetmaker> :P 16:06:24 <Belugas> i was referring to r15283 16:06:26 <planetmaker> right. Let's speculate :) 16:06:56 <Belugas> misc_gui.cpp had a little change that you did not reflected onyour fix, coming from that commit 16:07:33 <planetmaker> Yeah, saw that. But the patch doesn't touch that part and isn't harmed by that commit of yours. 16:07:46 <planetmaker> it just gives some offsets. 16:08:28 <Belugas> it does :) there is a IsWidgetFocused(10) where 10 chan be something else ;) 16:10:53 *** OwenS [~OwenS@host86-164-125-149.range86-164.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 16:11:08 <Swallow> In ShutdownGame (openttd.cpp line +/-350) all memory pools are cleared, but the OrderList pool is not 16:11:27 <Swallow> Does this have a reason or is it a memory leak? 16:11:51 <Aali> OrderLists can and will be reused AFAIK 16:11:53 <SmatZ> Swallow: no 16:12:00 <SmatZ> more pools are not cleared at exit 16:12:03 <SmatZ> for some reason 16:13:08 <SmatZ> Swallow: http://devs.openttd.org/~smatz/free_memory.diff one rather old patch to free something... 16:13:26 <petern> no need to :p 16:13:27 *** Purno [~Purno@5350931D.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 16:13:49 <Eddi|zuHause> it should at least be documented why it is not freed 16:14:02 <SmatZ> petern: it's cleaner... 16:15:51 *** Zahl_ [~Zahl@f051194026.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 16:15:51 *** Zahl [~Zahl@g228082126.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:15:51 *** Zahl_ is now known as Zahl 16:15:52 <Swallow> ok, thanks for info 16:16:25 <petern> at long as it's cleaned up between games that's good enough 16:16:42 <petern> the OS will tidy it up on exit much faster than we can free it 16:17:13 <petern> never done it myself 16:18:03 <edeca> Only benefit of always free()ing on exit is that it makes it easier to use valgrind 16:18:27 <petern> yeah 16:25:00 *** Mark_ [~M4rk@5351EC68.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- \o/] 16:25:08 *** Mark_ [~M4rk@5351EC68.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 16:25:10 *** Mark_ is now known as M4rk 16:25:21 *** M4rk [~M4rk@5351EC68.cable.casema.nl] has left #openttd [] 16:25:53 *** M4rk [~M4rk@5351EC68.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 16:31:58 *** M4rk is now known as Mark_ 16:32:53 *** Mortomes [~mortomes@i15108.upc-i.chello.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:37:38 *** JapaMala [~Japa@117.201.96.117] has joined #openttd 16:43:12 *** |Japa| [~Japa@117.201.96.117] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:43:12 *** JapaMala is now known as |Japa| 16:48:42 *** Belugas_Gone [~jfranc@ip-138.84.126.206.dsl-cust.ca.inter.net] has joined #openttd 16:48:43 *** mode/#openttd [+o Belugas_Gone] by ChanServ 16:49:21 *** lewymati [~lewymati@aeiz92.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [] 16:53:58 <|Japa|> yay! mad a XOR gate! 16:54:09 <|Japa|> now I just have to make moar 16:54:26 <Roest> yay 16:54:27 <Aali> a MOAR gate? 16:56:15 <dihedral> more :-P 16:56:35 <Roest> whats a more gate? 16:56:45 <dihedral> more xor gates :-P 16:56:46 <Aali> whatever it is, I want one 16:56:47 <planetmaker> http://www.openttdcoop.org/blog/2009/01/18/optimization-of-logic-logic-gates-part-ii/ <-- |Japa| you know that article(s)? 16:57:10 <petern> lolgates 16:57:15 <planetmaker> I want more ore or e... 16:57:33 *** Singaporekid [~notme@cm172.psi140.maxonline.com.sg] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:57:42 <dihedral> # gib mir mein erz zurueck... 16:57:55 <planetmaker> nooo! It's my preciousssss ;) 17:01:12 *** Belugas_Gone [~jfranc@ip-138.84.126.206.dsl-cust.ca.inter.net] has quit [Quit: How about sleeping? Yeaaa..] 17:01:38 <el_en> # Du hast Sternenteile mit zurÌckgebracht! 17:03:59 *** Retro [~retroip@nat-88-212-22-67.antik.sk] has joined #openttd 17:05:29 *** Retro [~retroip@nat-88-212-22-67.antik.sk] has left #openttd [] 17:05:35 *** Retro [~retroip@nat-88-212-22-67.antik.sk] has joined #openttd 17:05:52 *** mortal` [~mortal@0x573a3da2.odnqu1.static.dsl.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 17:06:56 <planetmaker> hehe :) 17:07:25 <planetmaker> But only those with a high metal content. So... I rather settle for (inner) parts of planets :P 17:07:57 <el_en> what's the english term for those Sternenteile in the game? 17:08:56 <planetmaker> uh? What's a "Sternenteil" even in German? 17:10:57 *** Mortal is now known as Guest165 17:10:57 *** mortal` is now known as mortal 17:11:10 *** Guest165 [~mortal@0x573a3da2.odnqu1.static.dsl.tele.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:14:45 *** mortal` [~mortal@0x573a3da2.odnqu1.static.dsl.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 17:15:30 *** Mortomes [~mortomes@e224212.upc-e.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 17:21:12 *** mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.odnqu1.static.dsl.tele.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:22:25 *** Sionide [sionide@cornflakes.imen.org.uk] has quit [Server closed connection] 17:22:30 *** Sionide [sionide@cornflakes.imen.org.uk] has joined #openttd 17:22:58 *** sigmund [~sigmund@91.80-202-245.nextgentel.com] has joined #openttd 17:24:44 *** sigmund_ [~sigmund@91.80-202-245.nextgentel.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:25:13 *** mortal` [~mortal@0x573a3da2.odnqu1.static.dsl.tele.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:25:29 *** Mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.odnqu1.static.dsl.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 17:26:38 *** DephNet[Paul] [~paul@host86-142-242-78.range86-142.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:32:20 <|Japa|> [22:26] <planetmaker> http://www.openttdcoop.org/blog/2009/01/18/optimization-of-logic-logic-gates-part-ii/ <-- |Japa| you know that article(s)? 17:32:22 <|Japa|> yes 17:32:40 <|Japa|> that's what made me make a full adder gate 17:32:54 <planetmaker> I see :) 17:38:26 *** DephNet[Paul] [~paul@host86-131-63-100.range86-131.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 17:41:42 *** smeding [smeding@5354BE76.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 17:43:08 <|Japa|> now I managed a full adder 17:43:19 *** |Japa| [~Japa@117.201.96.117] has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Chicks dig it] 17:51:19 <ccfreak2k> Cool beans. 17:52:14 <dihedral> on toast? 17:59:17 <ccfreak2k> Reading him talking about making small logic gates makes me think "die shrink!" 18:00:33 *** [SVK] [~retroip@nat-88-212-22-67.antik.sk] has joined #openttd 18:00:44 *** Retro [~retroip@nat-88-212-22-67.antik.sk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:02:17 *** [SVK] [~retroip@nat-88-212-22-67.antik.sk] has quit [] 18:05:19 *** Mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.odnqu1.static.dsl.tele.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:05:35 *** Mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.odnqu1.static.dsl.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 18:09:57 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@94-224-31-113.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 18:14:48 *** Mortomes [~mortomes@e224212.upc-e.chello.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:18:26 *** DephNet[Paul] [~paul@host86-131-63-100.range86-131.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:19:46 *** TinoM| [~Tino@i59F5E0DE.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 18:21:55 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590fd62e.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #openttd 18:25:01 *** Zorn [zorn@f054003148.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 18:25:43 *** TinoM [~Tino@i59F5E0DE.versanet.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:31:44 *** Brianetta [~brian@client-82-26-67-90.bmly.adsl.virgin.net] has joined #openttd 18:34:35 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@89.246.211.205] has joined #openttd 18:34:48 *** fjb [~frank@p5485EA62.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 18:34:56 <fjb> Hello 18:36:09 <frosch123> moin :) 18:36:47 <dihedral> :-P 18:38:02 *** Mortomes [~mortomes@i15108.upc-i.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 18:40:40 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@89.246.200.237] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:42:02 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host114-234-dynamic.21-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 18:42:12 <Wolf01> hello 18:43:00 <dihedral> oi 18:46:26 *** Mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.odnqu1.static.dsl.tele.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:47:30 *** Zahl_ [~Zahl@f051194026.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 18:47:30 *** Zahl [~Zahl@f051194026.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:47:30 *** Zahl_ is now known as Zahl 18:48:43 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: translators * r15289 /trunk/src/lang/ (7 files): (log message trimmed) 18:48:43 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: -Update: WebTranslator2 update to 2009-01-28 18:48:19 18:48:43 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: german - 3 fixed by planetmaker (3) 18:48:43 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: indonesian - 22 fixed by fanioz (22) 18:48:43 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: korean - 3 changed by darkttd (1), dlunch (2) 18:48:44 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: polish - 6 fixed by xaxa (6) 18:48:44 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: portuguese - 140 fixed, 4 changed by nars (144) 18:49:21 *** Swallow [~chatzilla@5355F5FD.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.5/2008120122]] 18:58:49 *** Mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.odnqu1.static.dsl.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 18:59:26 <planetmaker> http://bugs.openttd.org/task/2589?project=1&order=id&sort=desc <-- Rubidium, reading this bug report, I think the guys have a point. 19:00:38 <Rubidium> so because you make a 64x64 station all tiles within a 82x82 square should yield subsidies? 19:00:49 <planetmaker> It's at least a bit confusing to have different things depending upon different "influence areas" of a station: within limits of a sign there, within the square(?) of the catchment area for delivery and nearest industry supplied.... 19:00:55 <planetmaker> Rubidium: indeed, I think so. 19:00:59 <planetmaker> It's stupid. 19:01:13 <planetmaker> But no one is forced to play that way. 19:01:33 <Rubidium> they will 19:01:44 <planetmaker> I know. Their problem. 19:02:01 <Rubidium> and subsidies are pretty simple: station flag within 9 tiles of destination flag you get it, otherwise not 19:02:04 <dihedral> same as it is now 19:02:13 <dihedral> their problem :-) 19:02:17 <planetmaker> My argument is not to stop some fun-stoppers playing as they like, it's rather for the consistency of the rules OpenTTD works on. 19:02:24 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 19:03:26 <planetmaker> What is the catchment area about, if there are two catchment areas? One station sign, one rectangle and then then another which supplies to the nearest industries to the station sign, if it comes to delivery? 19:03:53 <planetmaker> Three different concepts for acceptance, delivery and subsidy acceptance. 19:06:17 <frosch123> there is a fourth for acquireing cargo from industries 19:07:03 <planetmaker> he... :S 19:07:46 <planetmaker> In my eyes it would add to understandability of the rules to use in all places on function like IsInStationsReach(tile,station) 19:08:22 <planetmaker> s/on/one/ 19:09:31 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@94-224-31-113.access.telenet.be] has quit [Quit: oO] 19:10:33 *** Mortomes [~mortomes@i15108.upc-i.chello.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:12:11 *** mortal` [~mortal@0x573a3da2.odnqu1.static.dsl.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 19:12:32 *** Mortomes [~mortomes@i15108.upc-i.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 19:14:23 *** Mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.odnqu1.static.dsl.tele.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:17:10 <planetmaker> frosch123: what's the difference between "supplying" and "accepting" catchment areas? 19:17:38 <planetmaker> or "aquiring from industries" and "accepting"? 19:17:59 *** UFO64 [~jmurray@john-michael-murray.um.maine.edu] has joined #openttd 19:18:19 <frosch123> he, I hope you don't expect a correct answer from me? but IIRC the supplying is more like a catchment area around the industry, where a station tile must be inside 19:19:00 <frosch123> i.e. accepting and supplying would only match when both the industry and the station are rectangular, and all industry tiles accept the cargo 19:19:27 <planetmaker> he... the latter seldom is true :) 19:19:30 <Wolf01> or reversing the sentence: the station catchement area should cover the industry tile which supplies the goods 19:20:12 <planetmaker> yeah. It doesn't help you, if you only provide service to the junk yard of a food plan. You need to service the front door :P 19:20:50 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #openttd [] 19:21:15 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 19:24:03 <Wolf01> I should compliment with Yexo, the AdmiralAI is really challenging ;) 19:24:17 <Wolf01> or *compliment to 19:24:26 <Wolf01> I don't know the right one :P 19:25:21 <dihedral> just compliment Yexo ;-) 19:25:47 <Wolf01> good 19:27:53 <planetmaker> hm... having logged in to translators, I cannot get past the 2nd page (German language) when pressing the next button (using 'edit strings') 19:28:49 <Wolf01> does anyone has any Pinnacle system? 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21:33:59 *** DaleStan is now known as Guest213 21:34:04 *** DaleStan [~Dale@pool-71-98-104-215.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 21:34:38 *** sigmund [~sigmund@91.80-202-245.nextgentel.com] has joined #openttd 21:36:25 *** sigmund_ [~sigmund@91.80-202-245.nextgentel.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:36:42 <dihedral> el_en, Bjarni is not around currently 21:36:55 <dihedral> @seen Bjarni 21:36:55 <DorpsGek> dihedral: Bjarni was last seen in #openttd 2 weeks, 5 days, 2 hours, 7 minutes, and 50 seconds ago: <Bjarni> hi Wolf01 21:37:57 <fjb> Maybe he kickbanned himself... 21:38:22 *** Guest213 [~Dale@pool-71-98-104-215.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 21:43:14 *** KritiK [~Maxim@78-106-181-47.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 21:44:36 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #openttd [] 21:45:56 *** Roest [~schurade@p54B9CFD9.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 21:48:03 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:49:11 *** Lakie [~Lakie@91.84.251.149] has joined #openttd 21:52:09 * Wolf01 dies 21:52:12 <Wolf01> 'night 21:52:22 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host114-234-dynamic.21-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 21:53:43 *** davis- [~iloveme@p5B28DBD5.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:07:55 *** Mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.odnqu1.static.dsl.tele.dk] has quit [Quit: from __future__ import antigravity] 22:13:04 *** Priski [priski@xob.kapsi.fi] has quit [Server closed connection] 22:13:05 *** Priski [priski@xob.kapsi.fi] has joined #openttd 22:16:23 *** SmoovTruck [~imptruck@174-154-117-222.pools.spcsdns.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:16:57 *** SmoovTruck [~imptruck@174-156-0-143.pools.spcsdns.net] has joined #openttd 22:26:43 *** Zahl [~Zahl@f051194026.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Quit: Rhabarberbarbarabarbarbarenbartbarbierbierbar] 22:28:41 *** kd5pbo [~kd5pbo@136.242.110.90] has joined #openttd 22:42:49 *** Nite_Owl [~Nite_Owl@c-98-211-146-65.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 22:43:10 <Nite_Owl> Hello all 22:43:55 <SmatZ> hello Nite Owl 22:44:09 <Nite_Owl> Hello SmatZ 22:45:44 <thingwath> (5884 more hellos for a complete graph) 22:46:51 <petern> do it 22:47:42 <SmatZ> 8-) 22:48:03 <SmatZ> thingwath: I think you are wrong 22:48:11 *** frederyk [~frank@brln-4dba4431.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #openttd 22:48:25 <thingwath> it's possible 22:48:26 <SmatZ> both "A says hello to B" and "B says hello to A" cases occur 22:48:32 <SmatZ> so... 22:48:35 <thingwath> oh. you're right 22:48:39 <SmatZ> @calc 110 * 109 22:48:39 <DorpsGek> SmatZ: 11990 22:48:58 <SmatZ> -2 (me and Nite_Owl) 22:48:58 <petern> a directed graph, eh? 22:49:06 <SmatZ> yeah :) 22:50:10 <Nite_Owl> -3 you and me twice if you count the generalized "Hello all" 22:50:19 <SmatZ> hehe 22:50:38 <SmatZ> but there isn't anoone called "all" ... 22:51:35 *** mikl [~mikl@212.27.26.55.bredband.3.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:51:52 <Nite_Owl> true - but I did not capitalize it today like I did yesterday 22:52:10 <thingwath> so I still have to study -- for an graph algorithms exam, this friday... 22:52:27 <SmatZ> :o) 22:53:43 <Nite_Owl> <Yoda_Owl> long behind me are the days of study 22:53:49 <SmatZ> thingwath: if you prove P != NP (or P == NP) by friday, you don't have to care about that exam ;) 22:53:59 <thingwath> I already did. 22:54:05 <thingwath> But for another P and NP... 22:54:09 <SmatZ> hehehe 22:54:52 <thingwath> They are equal. 22:55:21 <SmatZ> which P and NP ? 22:56:52 <Prof_Frink> SmatZ: That's easy. You just have to prove that N=1. 22:57:14 <SmatZ> 8-) 22:57:20 <thingwath> http://www.fi.muni.cz/~xbarto11/proof.png :o) 22:57:31 <thingwath> see, they are both green, so they are equal. 22:58:20 <SmatZ> :-D 22:58:20 <Prof_Frink> Not all green things are equal. 22:58:25 <SmatZ> :-D 22:58:32 <Eddi|zuHause> proof? 22:58:35 <thingwath> in our IS, they are. :-) 22:58:56 <Prof_Frink> Grass, for example, is not equal to kryptonite. 22:59:04 <Eddi|zuHause> # GrÌn, ja grÌn sind alle meine Kleider 22:59:31 <Eddi|zuHause> # GrÌn, ja grÌn ist alles, was ich hab 22:59:44 <Eddi|zuHause> # darum lieb ich alles was so grÌn ist 22:59:50 * Prof_Frink hands Eddi|zuHause a nugget of purest green 23:00:17 <Eddi|zuHause> # weil mein Schatz... so viel JÀgermeister sÀuft... :p 23:01:40 <Eddi|zuHause> it's a well known children's song: http://www.strusel007.de/liederbuch/Kinderlieder/gruen_ja_gruen.html 23:01:49 <Eddi|zuHause> basically you associate a colour with a job 23:01:52 <thingwath> if it's not "zelená", then it's allright. 23:02:34 <petern> soylent? 23:03:01 <Eddi|zuHause> that is usually not commonly known amongst children :p 23:03:07 <goodger> petern: blackadder 2 23:03:09 <goodger> or II, rather 23:03:10 <thingwath> peppermint liquor 23:03:50 <goodger> "what you have created, Percy, if it has a name, is some... Green." 23:04:49 *** frederyk [~frank@brln-4dba4431.pool.einsundeins.de] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 23:07:00 <Eddi|zuHause> the song goes basically like this: <colour> are all my dresses, <colour> is everything i have, why i like everything in <colour>, because my darling is a <job> 23:07:32 <SmatZ> you love your job? 23:07:36 <thingwath> which job matches black? 23:08:09 <Nite_Owl> undertaker 23:08:10 <Eddi|zuHause> usual mapping is: green - hunter, blue - sailor, red - firefighter, white - baker, black - chimney sweeper, "coloured" - painter 23:08:45 <thingwath> chimney sweeper, hm, I hoped for something better 23:09:20 <Eddi|zuHause> in germany, a chimney sweeper is a symbol for good luck 23:09:49 <thingwath> here it is too 23:10:20 <thingwath> but it isn't the right job for someone with acrophobia :) 23:10:39 * welshdragon spams openttd with http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Wpiz8kQbI7s 23:11:10 * glx look at the video before deciding what to do about welshdragon 23:11:56 <thingwath> it has "trains" in its name, it must be good! 23:14:09 <glx> ok just boring :) 23:14:19 <Eddi|zuHause> the line is not even electrified... 23:14:30 <Eddi|zuHause> and the trains are not even historic... 23:14:36 <glx> and the weather is not nice 23:14:52 <petern> yeah but there's 10 minutes of it 23:14:58 <thingwath> :) 23:15:15 <petern> welshdragon, tripod 23:16:11 <Prof_Frink> petern: That's not what I heard ;) 23:16:41 *** paul_ [~paul@host86-140-66-59.range86-140.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 23:16:41 <welshdragon> petern, fpr a mobile? 23:16:50 <welshdragon> *for 23:17:06 <welshdragon> glx, the weather gets better 23:17:06 <thingwath> especially for a mobile :) 23:17:34 <petern> yay, a 90 23:17:47 <petern> 1 23:17:49 <petern> :/ 23:18:37 <welshdragon> petern, there's even 2 hst's slightly llater on 23:20:00 <petern> do not dirty the sound of a 43 departing by speaking over it 23:20:20 <petern> especially when you talk unintelligable crap 23:20:37 <welshdragon> ;o 23:22:04 <petern> crap framing on the second HST 23:22:29 <petern> nobody cares about the numbers :/ 23:23:14 <welshdragon> oh, peoiple do 23:23:48 *** DephNet[Paul] [~paul@host86-131-63-100.range86-131.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:23:49 <welshdragon> i blame the fact that the 220, 41 01 and 43 02 left 5 minutes after ecah other 23:24:06 <welshdragon> 43 01 even, argh 23:28:21 <petern> http://www.traintesting.com/images/HST%20rtc%20loop1%202-73.jpg 23:28:22 <petern> hehe 23:28:25 <petern> looks silly :D 23:28:48 <Sacro> fugly bugger aint it 23:33:45 <welshdragon> the fuck? 23:34:43 <glx> what's behind the engine ? 23:36:15 <Progman> the tender? *g* 23:36:59 <Sacro> looks more like a brakevan 23:37:23 <glx> that's what I think, but I'm not sure 23:38:15 <goodger> ah, the 41 23:38:15 <goodger> it's actually almost the same as the 43, but with buffers and a slightly differently angled nose 23:38:17 <goodger> hi welshdragon 23:38:21 <goodger> looks like a brake van :P 23:38:25 <goodger> woop for separate diesel tank 23:38:29 <goodger> hrrm 23:38:29 <goodger> I said brake van! ¬.¬ 23:38:33 <goodger> fortunately the majority of HSTs have now been refitted with bombardier engines from 220s 23:38:33 <goodger> the valentas were extremely painful 23:39:47 <Prof_Frink> Beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeem bawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwm 23:40:47 *** smeding [smeding@5354BE76.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:40:56 <Sacro> i loved the valentas 23:41:01 <Sacro> very distinguishing tone 23:41:31 <goodger> nah 23:41:33 <goodger> oooooooorrrrrrrrrrrrrnnnyeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE 23:41:33 <goodger> very very _very_ painful to stand next to 23:47:15 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B81508.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:47:23 <Prof_Frink> Yeah, but loud is good. 23:48:59 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B82BD5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 23:49:00 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 23:54:27 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1F9BB.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:57:05 *** SHRIKEE [~shrikee@84-105-52-118.cable.quicknet.nl] has quit [Quit: SHRIKEE] 23:57:39 *** mikl [~mikl@90.184.195.93] has joined #openttd