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Log for #openttd on 2nd March 2009:
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00:00:56  <energetic> sorry - afk.
00:01:05  <energetic> Eddi: that doesnt matter
00:01:12  <energetic> since they delete their ends
00:01:37  <energetic> you can have a station of any town at any place in the game - if there is a landpath between those two places
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00:03:57  <Eddi|zuHause> don't statues only work in the town authority radius?
00:04:05  <energetic> no
00:04:08  <energetic> only ads
00:04:12  <energetic> 5/10/15
00:04:31  <energetic> statues work for stations build the first time in the town area
00:04:46  <energetic> so then they walk all across the map
00:05:11  <Eddi|zuHause> that sounds like a bug
00:05:22  <energetic> well what happens is:
00:05:29  <energetic> stations gets built, town assigned
00:05:44  <energetic> which doesnt change as the location of the name changes
00:06:05  <energetic> maybe when relocating the name of the station
00:06:19  <Bjarni> this was ok before you could remove one tile of a station
00:06:35  <energetic> recheck - and reassign if needed- the town it belings to
00:06:36  <Bjarni> so it sounds like the bug is that you can move a station
00:07:01  <Rubidium> nah, sounds like a bug that statues have a positive effect on stations
00:07:06  <energetic> Bjarni: it is a sideeffect of the introduction of join stations
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00:07:50  <Eddi|zuHause> energetic: no, it's not. everything that is possible now was also possible before. only it was more difficult to use
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00:08:22  <energetic> before join stations patch/functionality, this was impossible
00:08:31  <energetic> but that doesnt matter anyway
00:08:45  <Mark> http://217.151.48.24/markmc/South_East_Sweden_RC_5.scn
00:08:51  <Bjarni> actually you could if you built road stations
00:08:51  <Mark> IÀm done I think
00:08:56  <energetic> anyway, that statues have a positive effect on stations' rating is intended bahviour
00:09:38  <energetic> true. But not for railstations
00:09:52  <Eddi|zuHause> Rubidium: "sounds like a bug that statues have a positive effect on stations" ... that are outside the town's radius of influence
00:09:53  <energetic> which is kinda the point, since you are not likely to compete with RVs
00:10:16  <energetic> ah, right :+
00:11:06  <energetic> Though I am not sure if you could remove parts of a station before the joinstation-patch
00:11:39  <Eddi|zuHause> energetic: removing parts of stations was introduced with irregular stations
00:11:47  <Eddi|zuHause> and that was a very very long time ago
00:11:49  <Bjarni> Mark: looks ok, except for the industries
00:12:02  <energetic> 04 era out of my head
00:12:04  <Bjarni> I got a whole lot of coal and as we all know that's not Sweden :P
00:12:36  <Bjarni> apart from the industries, the scenario looks quite nice
00:12:46  <Bjarni> or at least it looks like it captured the area quite good
00:13:13  <Bjarni> I don't know if it will be that interesting to play but that's an issue of how the area is in real life and not your work
00:13:52  <energetic> if (station.removed_tile.location  == station.location) { station.ReassignTown(); }
00:14:40  <energetic> if (station.removed_tile.location == station.location) { station.ReassignTown(newlocation); }
00:16:31  <Mark> Bjarni: yeah, I know
00:16:48  <Bjarni> also the map have one major flaw
00:16:54  <Bjarni> my house is not in it :P
00:24:10  <Mark> You live in Denmark?
00:24:45  <energetic> http://bugs.openttd.org/task/2693
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00:33:12  <Bjarni> <Mark> You live in Denmark? <-- yeah
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00:33:43  <Eddi|zuHause> haha... this is so cool "we asked people in paris to sing the german national anthem, out of 25 people, only 1 person could hum the melody, and he was not even french", "we asked people in berlin to sing the french national anthem, and 3/4 of them knew the melody and often even the text"
00:33:46  <Mark> http://217.151.48.24/markmc/South_East_Sweden_Final_1.scn Done :)
00:35:37  <Bjarni> borked
00:35:45  <Bjarni> look to the north
00:36:03  <Bjarni> there is a wide line of water
00:36:09  <Bjarni> way too wide
00:36:36  <Bjarni> also I can terraform your name into whatever I want :P
00:56:34  <De_Ghosty> cuz they don't care about ze jermans!!
00:58:19  <Mark> Bjarni: I know, so what? :p
00:58:35  <Mark> That sealine in the north, how should I fix it?
01:00:18  <Brokkoli> move the land to the north
01:00:21  <Brokkoli> or add land there?
01:01:53  <Brokkoli> using 0.7 you can totaly remove the water at the borders
01:02:34  <Mark> Mkay :p
01:02:49  <Bjarni> goodnight
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01:02:59  <Mark> I'm reguraly using nightly, but for this scenario I used 0.6.3
01:03:14  <Nite_Owl> Hello all
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01:27:14  <SpComb> Eddi|zuHause: did they ask a crowd of french tourists?
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01:45:09  <De_Ghosty> lol
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01:54:28  <apo_> <3 the tree huggers in city councils.
02:03:52  <Brokkoli> who needs a train station
02:03:59  <Brokkoli> trees ftw
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03:04:38  <Sacro> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXjUPOJmChc
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04:00:40  <apo> Is there some easy way to upgrade >100 trains to monorail? :|
04:01:07  <Sacro> no
04:01:19  <apo> ... damn
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05:17:15  <Forked> good morning!
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07:11:32  <planetmaker> good morning
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07:40:51  <dihedral> \o/
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07:48:09  <Mark_> Mornin'
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07:48:53  <dihedral> oi
07:49:23  <planetmaker> moin :)
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08:00:15  <TSC> Anyone familiar with the NARS train set?  It says a caboose is necessary for freight trains, but is it really needed?
08:00:56  <dihedral> apparently! if it says so
08:01:45  <petern> try it
08:02:07  <TSC> I've got a train without one, and it seems fine...
08:02:44  <TSC> And I haven't noticed any coal falling off the back of the train (:
08:02:48  <TSC> Maybe it's just for decoration
08:05:05  <dihedral> well then - there you have your answer ;-)
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14:42:53  <Eddi|zuHause> this channel died? usually i have a huge backlog when i come home...
14:44:04  <planetmaker> Im MÀrzen der Bauer... etc pp. They're all sowing new OpenTTD plants. To be harvested in autumn :)
14:44:44  <Rubidium> Eddi|zuHause: your eyes died
14:44:52  <planetmaker> :O
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15:07:56  <Eddi|zuHause> <SpComb> Eddi|zuHause: did they ask a crowd of french tourists? <- no, the french hymn is really widely known in germany
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15:24:08  <apo> Apparently openttd doesn't like flattening 2000^2 pieces of land at once.
15:24:10  <apo> *waits*
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15:28:19  <KingJ> Do a giant screenshot too
15:31:47  <apo> ;)
15:32:41  <planetmaker> apo: that's about 4M DoCommands...
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15:34:59  <apo> Indeed
15:35:17  <apo> It's not even doing that many, though
15:35:34  <apo> It comes to a grinding halt when I try to select about 1/4 of the area
15:35:36  <apo> Probably less =P
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15:40:12  <apo> Hm, what happens if a city gets wet? Does it get destroyed?
15:41:56  <Rubidium> it drops it's leafs and once it dries up again it starts growing again
15:45:56  <apo> Cool.
15:46:05  <apo> Let's see how fast it builds the first building again.
15:46:22  * apo just killed 700 e-people. =P
15:47:38  <Ammler> maybe you should play civilization or so ;-)
15:47:48  <apo> :P
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16:03:15  <dihedral> planetmaker, please dont harvest noobs
16:03:20  <dihedral> we have enough of them :-P
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16:05:16  <Brokkoli> but they will grow
16:05:23  <fjb> Hello
16:07:12  <dihedral> Brokkoli, not all of them
16:07:28  <Brokkoli> ok thats true
16:07:32  <Brokkoli> but at least some
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16:22:07  <DASPRiD> eat more dihedral!
16:22:17  <DASPRiD> s/dihedral/brokkoli
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16:25:20  <fjb> Dehydrated brokkoli?
16:26:00  <DASPRiD> that doesnt sound tasty :/
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16:46:47  <gizmo> jodelio ...
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18:01:47  <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r15598 /trunk/src/smallmap_gui.cpp: -Fix [FS#2695]: crash when opening viewport while scrolling the map and the mouse 'lands' on the window decoration of the viewport.
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18:19:16  <batti5> Is it allowed to and banner from neobux, as a signature?
18:20:16  <planetmaker> if that's your favorite porn site, I guess not
18:20:40  <batti5> its a PTC site
18:20:42  <Sacro> that sentence makes no sens
18:20:43  <Sacro> *sense
18:20:59  <planetmaker> s/n/d/ <-- Sacro :)
18:21:14  <Sacro> oh, hm
18:21:24  <Sacro> s/,// too
18:21:27  <planetmaker> parse error :P
18:21:47  <planetmaker> fuzzy logic rulez
18:22:02  * planetmaker wonders what PTC might stand for...
18:22:17  <smeding> positive temperature coefficient
18:22:17  <smeding> duh.
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18:22:29  <Sacro> Yeah duh :p
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18:29:46  <batti5> PTC is Paid to click
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18:30:14  <Cutter> hi
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18:30:38  <Cutter> I want to install 0.6.3 over 0.6.2 on WinXP
18:30:49  <Cutter> do I have to uninstall 0.6.2 first?
18:30:51  <batti5> more info here: http://www.neobux.com
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18:31:24  <Rubidium> nope
18:31:27  <Cutter> nevermind
18:31:45  <Cutter> I tried anyway and its ok
18:32:00  <Cutter> thx bye
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18:39:55  <CIA-1> OpenTTD: translators * r15599 /trunk/src/lang/ (brazilian_portuguese.txt german.txt lithuanian.txt):
18:39:55  <CIA-1> OpenTTD: -Update: WebTranslator2 update to 2009-03-02 18:39:38
18:39:55  <CIA-1> OpenTTD: brazilian_portuguese - 4 fixed by tucalipe (4)
18:39:55  <CIA-1> OpenTTD: german - 35 changed by planetmaker (35)
18:39:57  <CIA-1> OpenTTD: lithuanian - 49 fixed, 33 changed by Devastator (82)
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18:45:15  <Yexo> hello
18:47:03  <planetmaker> salut yexo
18:47:35  <planetmaker> lol @ Cutter...
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19:17:41  <petern> hmm
19:19:27  <petern> modern technology
19:19:57  <petern> listening to last.fm and using ssh
19:20:06  <petern> from my mobile
19:20:13  <Sacro> ooh
19:20:17  <Sacro> that's techy of you
19:20:25  <petern> quite
19:20:31  <apo> SCIENCE
19:20:38  <petern> and a train just went past
19:20:44  <Sacro> zomg nice
19:20:47  <petern> quite quiet
19:21:01  <apo> Same here. I have sound turned off ;)
19:21:16  <petern> going ip to aylesbury parkway
19:21:48  <petern> wonder what bitrate this is
19:22:08  <petern> proabably hurting 3g a bit
19:22:17  <petern> tarriff wisw
19:23:01  <petern> hmm, bus
19:23:19  <petern> maybe i should've hopped on that
19:25:46  <Belugas> said the kangoroo
19:26:37  <petern> npt being a bus user i have no idea of the routes
19:30:24  <Belugas> whoo...!!  last.fm restarted!
19:30:35  <Belugas> last time used, 29th of october
19:30:43  <petern> ;)
19:37:50  <petern> turned that off
19:38:01  <petern> switched to mem card
19:38:19  <petern> with teeth
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19:40:10  <Belugas> got this All-Mogwai CD on the drive :)
19:40:18  <Belugas> which are BACK IN TOWN!
19:41:34  <petern> :)
19:42:05  <petern> taking photos of the abysmal cycle routes they've put in
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19:42:54  <petern> i.e. painting a crossing red does not a cycle path make
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19:44:58  <petern> don't you fucking know what you are
19:45:22  <planetmaker> STR_CONFIG_SETTING_SERVINT <-- looks rather funny as you never really know whether it's % or days...
19:45:53  <petern> make a patch
19:45:58  <planetmaker> :)
19:47:13  <SmatZ> planetmaker: I think this was discussed not a long time ago, with no clear result
19:47:33  <planetmaker> oh, ok. I didn't see that discussion :)
19:47:51  <SmatZ> it wasn't here :)
19:48:19  <petern> sekrit dev channelz
19:49:48  <planetmaker> :)
19:50:35  <Belugas> ho. ho... gho...  I know it's address!!!! I DO!!!
19:51:02  <petern> argh
19:51:21  <petern> at town centre
19:51:28  <petern> started raining
19:51:59  <petern> otoh over half way there
19:52:17  <petern> must resist kebab
19:52:34  <Belugas> chips
19:52:36  <Belugas> popcorn
19:52:38  <Belugas> beer
19:52:41  <Belugas> sausage
19:52:45  <Belugas> peanuts!
19:52:52  <Belugas> Roasted Almonds!!
19:52:56  <petern> noi+
19:53:22  <Belugas> noix
19:54:01  <petern> past mcdonalds
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19:54:27  <petern> ugh
19:54:36  <petern> full of chavs
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19:55:33  <Sacro> hehe
19:56:21  <petern> hmm
19:56:29  <batti5> dose anybody know whare ottd downloads grfs?, i cant find them in data directory.
19:56:43  <petern> 3br houses still more than what i paid
19:57:43  <petern> next to data
19:57:59  <petern> content_download or siimilar
19:58:43  <Belugas> batti5 : does -> does, whare -> where, cant -> can't
19:59:00  <Belugas> dose - > does
19:59:38  <petern> argh
19:59:51  <petern> another set   of takeaways
20:00:36  <petern> smells good
20:00:47  <Belugas> mobile...  phone or laptop?
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20:02:38  <petern> mobile
20:02:57  <petern> nokia e71
20:03:28  <petern> can run ottd but 320x240 sucks
20:04:28  <Belugas> nice machine :)
20:09:01  <petern> home now
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20:19:11  <batti5> Belugas : OK
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20:24:09  <batti5> how can you create a channel at OFTC?
20:24:37  <KenjiE20> same as anywhere, /join #channelname
20:25:06  <KenjiE20> registering on the other hand probably requires x numbers of ppl
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20:26:47  <batti5> what is ppl?
20:26:57  <KenjiE20> shorthand for people
20:31:15  <Sacro> not shortnand
20:31:17  <Sacro> *shorthand
20:31:18  <Sacro> just short
20:33:37  <Prof_Frink> Abbreviation.
20:34:01  <smeding> and silly at any rate
20:35:55  <SpComb> KenjiE20: it doesn't
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21:01:34  <CIA-1> OpenTTD: yexo * r15600 /trunk/src/statusbar_gui.cpp: -Fix (r0): Replace a newline in a news message by four spaces before drawing it in the statusbar.
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21:37:47  <Eddi|zuHause> what's an r0?
21:38:41  <Yexo> it means the problem already existed in the first revision of the current repository
21:39:43  <Yexo> apparently others use r1 for that purpose
21:41:19  <Rubidium> r0 is an empty repository ;)
21:42:47  <DASPRiD> lie :P
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21:46:46  <Belugas> prove otherwise ;)
21:46:57  <Prof_Frink> Call it rTTD.
21:49:30  <kasper> hey there, is there a way to increase the station influence area? I'd like to build towns with less stations (passengers)
21:50:14  <Yexo> you can combine multiple stops in one stations, that's easy now distant-join is in trunk
21:51:33  <kasper> like building a single bit of the station somewhere?
21:51:51  <kasper> or a busstation just within the influence area of a railway station?
21:52:16  <Eddi|zuHause> press ctrl when building the station, and select it to join the existing station
21:52:48  <kasper> hmmz, didnt know that.. looks promising :)
21:52:53  <kasper> great improvement!
21:55:18  <Eddi|zuHause> the magic ctrl key, you'd sometimes be suprised what it does ;)
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21:57:16  <fjb> In communist Russia the the ctrl key would control you.
21:57:58  <Eddi|zuHause> i recommend you to not try ;=
21:58:08  <petern> hmm
21:58:09  <smeding> soviet russia, and also old, and also not all that interesting to begin with
21:58:27  <petern> spam: 8.3%  clean: 91.7%
21:58:52  <smeding> maybe if we party like it's the 1970s
21:59:25  <kasper> Its amazing.. i cn cover a whole city with just 2 stations.. :)
22:00:30  * Yexo can cover a whole 256x256 map with just 4 stations :)
22:00:31  <petern> cheat!
22:00:47  <Rubidium> Yexo: interesting ;)
22:01:05  <kasper> what code is used to code openttd actually? <-- pointing at things like the patches and such
22:01:31  <Yexo> Rubidium: that would indeed be interesting :p. With 16 stations it can be done though
22:01:34  <kasper> or the land generator.. I'd like to pick up coding again.. :)
22:02:12  <petern> morse
22:02:50  <kasper> hehe, thats why the germans never understood it :P
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22:05:07  * Belugas goes home sweet home
22:06:51  <Rubidium> night Belugas
22:07:42  <MrFrans> kasper, http://wiki.openttd.org/wiki/index.php/Development_Documentation
22:09:04  <kasper> aye, looks like math lab mixed with php
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22:17:43  <kasper> there are so many things small id like to see included in openttd.. i guess i'd have to try it myself :P
22:17:51  <kasper> *small things
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22:21:39  <petern> math lab mixed with php? bwhaha
22:23:02  <kasper> well, the small example pieces.. don't know about the entire code.. :P  just trying to find something simular
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22:23:48  <Eddi|zuHause> kasper: almost all languages look very similar...
22:23:51  <Aali> maybe you should just look at the code
22:23:59  <Eddi|zuHause> doesn't mean they are in any kind related
22:24:07  <kasper> I'd like to live a tad bit longer Aali :P
22:24:33  <kasper> Do understand that Eddi, math lab and php arent the same either.. not at all
22:24:51  <Aali> so you're sifting through outdated examples of how the code might look like?
22:25:02  <kasper> yepz
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22:26:08  <Aali> oh and, I hate to break it to you, but your life was over the second you joined this channel :)
22:26:24  <kasper> may i still run? :P
22:26:30  <Aali> too late
22:26:38  <kasper> good, so you'd better drag me in then :)
22:27:33  <Eddi|zuHause> your only options now are taking the blue pill or the red pill
22:27:42  <Eddi|zuHause> they both make you addicted, though.
22:28:29  <kasper> I'm already addicted to TTD and openTTD.. since they supplied this silver game box with my first pc..
22:28:57  <kasper> about 1997 i think..
22:30:21  <Eddi|zuHause> youngster :p
22:31:00  <Eddi|zuHause> i was addicted to TT when i first got the demo version, that was in 1993 or 1994
22:31:04  <Eddi|zuHause> i think
22:31:22  <kasper> hmmz :)
22:31:56  <kasper> But my general Transport Addiction is larger :P
22:32:29  <kasper> One must be quiet crazy to take classes in transport management.  :P.
22:32:38  <Eddi|zuHause> http://www.mobygames.com/game/highscreen-fun-pack-2 <- i think it was on this CD
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22:33:04  <Eddi|zuHause> i still have the box, but the CD is missing :(
22:33:35  <energetic> Hmm, a submitted bug was closed before I could answer decently....
22:33:43  <kasper> mine came in a box with total annihilation.. and a few other games
22:33:47  <kasper> great games :)
22:33:52  <kasper> believe it was logitech
22:33:56  <kasper> not sure though
22:34:20  <kasper> And a motor racing game...
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22:57:59  <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r15601 /trunk/ (19 files in 4 dirs):
22:57:59  <CIA-1> OpenTTD: -Fix [FS#2615]: bridges/tunnels don't store tram owner making it possible to remove someone's tram tracks.
22:57:59  <CIA-1> OpenTTD: -Feature: allow building road stops on road/tram tracks of competitors.
22:58:30  <Sacro>  oooh
22:59:21  <Eddi|zuHause> you _could_ have seen that coming if you watched the previous commits closely ;)
23:00:52  <Rubidium> Eddi|zuHause: all of it?
23:01:08  <Rubidium> part of it, yes, but I seriously doubt the other part
23:01:25  <Eddi|zuHause> well, "something like that"
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23:06:16  <Eddi|zuHause> <petern> must resist kebab <- i never manage that...
23:07:15  <Rubidium> are you digging through your backlog?
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23:08:39  <Eddi|zuHause> a little bit ;)
23:09:21  <Eddi|zuHause> my buffer is over 24h hours...
23:09:44  <Eddi|zuHause> there were days where it didn't even last 12h
23:10:11  <Rubidium> anyhow... feces covered frozen kebab is irresitable for you?
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23:10:44  <Rubidium> or do you manage to resist that kebab?
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23:10:56  <Eddi|zuHause> not that this is a situation that is regularly occuring to me...
23:11:29  <Eddi|zuHause> there are laws on what may be in kebab to still call it kebab ;)
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23:17:28  <Eddi|zuHause> i think i found something for el_en (where is he anyway?): http://images.videolan.org/vlc/skins2/main_scr.png
23:18:07  <glx> ugly vlc skin
23:20:25  <Eddi|zuHause> http://userstyles.org/styles/6738 <- well, alternatively ;)
23:35:32  <Ammler> to load a grf from console, I need to
23:35:46  <Ammler> content select <grfid>
23:35:51  <Ammler> content download
23:36:09  <Ammler> that should work?
23:36:19  <glx> it should download them
23:36:31  <glx> (I never tried)
23:36:38  <Ammler> hmm
23:36:42  <Eddi|zuHause> hm, this "Spielzeugland" short film is really good
23:37:44  <Ammler> I tried also with all instead of the id,
23:38:03  <glx> did you try help?
23:40:14  <Ammler> there is still no webapi?
23:40:28  <Ammler> http://paste.openttd.org/180020
23:41:09  <glx> content update
23:41:15  <glx> to get the list
23:41:57  <glx> -   update: get a new list of downloadable content; must be run first <-- doc is clear ;)
23:42:15  <Eddi|zuHause> the content download window needs a graphical representation for grfs that you have, but are not up-to-date
23:42:30  <Eddi|zuHause> like a yellow dot
23:42:51  <Ammler> glx: yeah :-$
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23:43:50  <Ammler> but the id seems not work
23:43:55  <Ammler> try with md5
23:44:18  <Rubidium> Eddi|zuHause: and how do you expect people to 'understand' that those yellow dots are in fact checkboxes?
23:44:31  <Rubidium> and how do you show the state of said checkboxes?
23:44:46  <glx> maybe id correspond to something shown by 'content state'
23:44:57  <Eddi|zuHause> Rubidium: introduce a new yellow box with both checked and unchecked state?
23:45:41  <Yexo> selecting a newgrf (with "content select [id]") and then opening the content download gui clears the selection
23:46:12  <glx> Yexo: of course, the gui reask for the list
23:46:22  <glx> I think
23:46:49  <KenjiE20> <+glx> maybe id correspond to something shown by 'content state' <-- this is right
23:46:53  <Ammler> I guess, you would need the number of that "state"
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23:47:32  <Yexo> glx: why or course? selecting/unselecting items via the console while the content gui is open works as expected (only the gui isn't refreshed)
23:47:40  <KenjiE20> I just tested, "content update" -> "content state" -> picked 154 -> "content select 154" -> "content download"
23:47:46  <Ammler> well, I load it local and upload it...
23:48:08  <glx> Yexo: then it's a bug ;)
23:48:34  <glx> console stuff has been added after gui
23:48:59  <Ammler> KenjiE20: yep, but what about GRFs disapeard on top of the list?
23:49:06  <Yexo> closing the gui and reopening it also clears all selected items
23:49:09  <KenjiE20> shift PgUp
23:49:13  <Yexo> though that may be expected behavior
23:49:15  <KenjiE20> or is it ctrl pgup?
23:49:21  <KenjiE20> one of the two
23:49:25  <Yexo> it's shift
23:49:25  <Ammler> no sure, if ap allows that
23:49:40  <Yexo> Ammler: that only works in the in-game console
23:49:44  <Ammler> mÀh, I upload all
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23:50:46  <KenjiE20> or for a ded run, put '> openttd.log' on the end of the command and then 'cat' it
23:51:13  <glx> or start it in screen :)
23:52:21  <Eddi|zuHause> or run in any terminal that allows a longer buffer than the screen is high
23:52:37  <Ammler> how to select an old grf?
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23:52:46  <Eddi|zuHause> hm... a 4x4 sudoku is somehow... trivial...
23:53:00  <Ammler> I think, you should be able to select with md5
23:53:01  <glx> old grf are selected only when loading game
23:53:11  <Ammler> glx: how on a server?
23:53:32  <glx> server refuse loading when there's a missing grf :)
23:54:07  <Ammler> yep, but it has a nice output with missing grfid and md5sum, which you could use.

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