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00:00:19 <Aali> who keeps important files in the source repo? 00:00:31 * Rubidium 00:01:19 <Aali> ..that aren't related to the source :P 00:01:39 *** NightKhaos [~nightkhao@78-86-111-126.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 00:04:44 <Brokkoli> will svn up automaticly delete modified files? 00:05:15 <Brokkoli> i thougt it wouldn't 00:05:16 <Aali> no 00:05:23 <Yexo> for me it didn't 00:05:37 <Brokkoli> ok 00:06:55 <Aali> the problem is that svn doesn't care about _unversioned_ files when it removes a versioned directory 00:07:16 <Brokkoli> it does not? 00:07:18 <Brokkoli> uh.. 00:07:28 <Aali> so, if you keep some scenarios in the bin/ dir and svn up, poof, they're gone 00:07:42 <Brokkoli> didn't know that 00:07:44 <Yexo> Aali: I tested it, and it didn't remove some unversioned files for me 00:08:11 <Rubidium> it's "just" that many people got kinda pissed because they 'lost' files when we merged makefile rewrite and c++, which also (re)moved files in massive quantities 00:08:22 <Aali> maybe it has been fixed 00:08:28 <Aali> I don't use svn for openttd 00:10:18 *** Yeggs-work is now known as Yeggzzz 00:20:32 <Ammler> can't remember, it was that way 00:21:08 *** UFO64 [~jmurray@cpe-24-31-129-140.maine.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:22:06 *** George3 [~George@212.113.107.216] has joined #openttd 00:25:33 *** pleeby [bleepy@5ad00eb0.bb.sky.com] has joined #openttd 00:25:34 *** bleepy is now known as Guest642 00:25:34 *** pleeby is now known as bleepy 00:28:02 *** George [~George@212.113.107.216] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:28:10 *** Sacro [~Ben@static-87-102-39-137.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 00:30:20 *** Sacro|Macbook [~Ben@static-87-102-39-137.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 00:30:20 *** fjb [~frank@p5485BFF8.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:32:01 *** Guest642 [bleepy@5ad923ca.bb.sky.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:32:54 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77DDB.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 00:33:19 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77C67.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 00:34:12 *** wollollo [~martin@dyn1076-82.hor.ic.ac.uk] has quit [Quit: leaving] 00:35:46 *** George [~George@212.113.107.216] has joined #openttd 00:37:01 *** Sacro [~Ben@static-87-102-39-137.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:41:22 *** George3 [~George@212.113.107.216] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:51:20 *** Maarten [~dutchusa@cpe-67-49-65-115.socal.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:52:44 *** Maarten [~dutchusa@cpe-67-49-65-115.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 01:14:56 *** goodger [~ben@host86-148-8-231.range86-148.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:15:00 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B83DD7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:15:25 *** goodger [~ben@host86-148-8-231.range86-148.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 01:17:00 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B82ACF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 01:17:04 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 01:21:15 *** lhrios [~luis@201.80.148.50] has joined #openttd 01:27:20 *** Zahl [~Zahl@e179205134.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Quit: Rhabarberbarbarabarbarbarenbartbarbierbierbar] 01:31:32 *** Sacro|Macbook [~Ben@static-87-102-39-137.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:38:54 *** Sacro [~ben@static-87-102-39-137.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 01:48:06 *** lhrios [~luis@201.80.148.50] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:13:05 *** Aali_ [~aali@84-217-20-202.tn.glocalnet.net] has joined #openttd 02:14:53 *** Aali [~aali@84-217-16-46.tn.glocalnet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:51:13 *** Brokkoli [~Brokkoli@e177137152.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Quit: In aller Welt werden die Parallelen zur Krise 1929 diskutiert, aber damals wurde wenigstens noch die Verantwortung ÃŒbernommen. Da sind die Banker noch rei] 03:00:10 *** RS-SM [~RSCN@216-165-16-131.DYNAPOOL.NYU.EDU] has joined #openttd 03:01:40 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.22.214.80] has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Chicks dig it] 03:08:41 *** TinoDidriksen [~projectjj@port432.ds1-od.adsl.cybercity.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:12:15 *** TinoDidriksen [~projectjj@port432.ds1-od.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 03:33:02 *** George3 [~George@212.113.107.216] has joined #openttd 03:36:31 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 03:36:31 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:36:35 *** Combuster is now known as [com]buster 03:37:43 <Cutter> hey what's wrong 03:38:33 *** TinoDidriksen [~projectjj@port432.ds1-od.adsl.cybercity.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:38:47 *** George [~George@212.113.107.216] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:39:04 <Cutter> my boats get 9000 $ for transfering 100 passengers, but the buses get only about 30 $ for delivering the same passengers to destination 03:39:36 <Cutter> I know it's a long trip but well 03:40:01 <Cutter> what's the point of a ferry if the passengers can't stand the distance 03:40:03 *** George [~George@212.113.107.216] has joined #openttd 03:42:39 *** TinoDidriksen [~projectjj@port432.ds1-od.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 03:43:18 *** goodger [~ben@host86-148-8-231.range86-148.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:44:08 *** goodger [~ben@host86-148-8-231.range86-148.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 03:46:13 *** George3 [~George@212.113.107.216] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:05:23 *** goodger [~ben@host86-148-8-231.range86-148.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:05:47 *** goodger [~ben@host86-148-8-231.range86-148.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 04:12:43 *** Dred_furst [~Dred@resnet663.bournemouth.ac.uk] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 04:17:36 *** Lakie [~Lakie@91.84.251.149] has quit [Quit: Sleep.] 04:20:01 <De_Ghosty> ottd is relaly extortion 04:20:05 <De_Ghosty> i mean 04:20:10 <De_Ghosty> they get in ur bus 04:20:17 <De_Ghosty> and then u move em a thousand miles 04:20:22 <De_Ghosty> and they have to pay u :o 04:21:00 *** Dred_furst [~Dred@resnet663.bournemouth.ac.uk] has joined #openttd 04:24:53 *** Aali_ is now known as Aali 04:25:29 <Cutter> I've seen buses lose money upon delivery 04:25:58 <Cutter> like if there was some kind of hold-up inside the bus or something 04:27:11 *** Dred_furst [~Dred@resnet663.bournemouth.ac.uk] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 04:29:49 *** RS-SM [~RSCN@216-165-16-131.DYNAPOOL.NYU.EDU] has quit [Quit: RS-SM] 04:46:23 *** goodger [~ben@host86-148-8-231.range86-148.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:47:10 *** goodger [~ben@host86-148-8-231.range86-148.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 04:52:32 *** Sacro [~ben@static-87-102-39-137.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Quit: Sacro] 04:57:43 *** RS-SM [~RSCN@216-165-16-131.DYNAPOOL.NYU.EDU] has joined #openttd 05:08:11 *** NukeBuster [~wouter@80.101.115.82] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:08:11 *** tosse [tosse@tosse.pp.se] has joined #openttd 05:22:19 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: bye] 05:30:11 *** goodger [~ben@host86-148-8-231.range86-148.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:30:38 *** goodger [~ben@host86-148-8-231.range86-148.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 05:39:42 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@89.246.195.187] has joined #openttd 05:46:18 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@89.246.207.121] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:03:25 *** DaleStan [~Dale@pool-71-98-104-215.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:04:51 *** DaleStan [~Dale@pool-71-98-104-215.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 06:14:24 *** George3 [~George@212.113.107.216] has joined #openttd 06:19:40 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 06:19:40 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:19:44 *** Combuster is now known as [com]buster 06:20:28 *** George [~George@212.113.107.216] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:37:10 *** Mortomes [~mortomes@i15108.upc-i.chello.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:38:41 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@a82-95-167-159.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 06:44:15 *** DaleStan [~Dale@pool-71-98-104-215.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:46:00 *** DaleStan [~Dale@pool-71-98-104-215.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 06:48:11 <Eddi|zuHause> <Cutter> my boats get 9000 $ for transfering 100 passengers, but the buses get only about 30 $ for delivering the same passengers to destination <- means you get 9000 06:48:15 <Eddi|zuHause> +30 06:48:18 <Eddi|zuHause> in total 06:48:29 <Eddi|zuHause> where is the problem? 06:49:19 <narc> Even if you get -30 on bus delivery, you still got 70 for the whole trip. 06:49:44 <narc> Some people don't understand this =/ 06:51:40 <Eddi|zuHause> suggestion: show the last leg of a transfer also as transfer credit, combined with a total "income" amount, which is the money you really get 06:52:04 <narc> ^ 06:52:13 <narc> Neat idea. 06:52:16 <Eddi|zuHause> in that case, it would show "Transfer: -30, Income: 8970" 06:52:59 <narc> Since we're already tracking the total income over the lifetime of the cargo packet, it should all be available for display, in theory. 07:03:26 *** Arsonide [~Arsonide@24-178-137-255.dhcp.crtn.ga.charter.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:04:07 *** Arsonide [~Arsonide@24-178-137-255.dhcp.crtn.ga.charter.com] has joined #openttd 07:04:47 *** Zahl [~Zahl@f051195120.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 07:07:58 *** goodger [~ben@host86-148-8-231.range86-148.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:08:25 *** goodger [~ben@host86-148-8-231.range86-148.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 07:09:08 *** Timitry [83dc24f1@webchat.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 07:19:42 *** Singaporekid [~notme@cm123.psi148.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #openttd 07:25:34 <dihedral> \o/ 07:25:46 *** DaleStan is now known as Guest688 07:25:46 *** apo [apo@pD9E7E123.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 07:25:52 *** DaleStan [~Dale@pool-71-98-104-215.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 07:27:42 *** apo_ [apo@pD9E7CAD5.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:27:44 *** Guest688 [~Dale@pool-71-98-104-215.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:40:01 *** jpm_ is now known as jpm 08:05:54 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1F344.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 08:22:41 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:27:25 *** Arsonide [~Arsonide@24-178-137-255.dhcp.crtn.ga.charter.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:29:47 *** Arsonide [~Arsonide@24-178-137-255.dhcp.crtn.ga.charter.com] has joined #openttd 08:34:40 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 08:35:22 *** Yeggzzz is now known as Yeggs-work 08:49:58 *** racetrack [~racetrack@c114-76-9-162.eburwd4.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 08:52:58 *** maristo [~maristo@host217-114-156-151.pppoe.mark-itt.net] has joined #openttd 09:09:04 *** StarLionIsaac [~isaac@user-5af06a14.wfd101.dsl.pol.co.uk] has joined #openttd 09:09:28 *** StarLionIsaac [~isaac@user-5af06a14.wfd101.dsl.pol.co.uk] has quit [] 09:21:18 <planetmaker> good morning 09:23:10 <racetrack> evening 09:27:18 <DASPRiD> godd midday :x 09:27:33 <DASPRiD> s/midday/noon 09:28:53 <dihedral> # willst du nix spuel mit PRiDs 09:31:39 <DASPRiD> dihedral, :P 09:32:03 <DASPRiD> willst du dih, frag den PRi 09:45:46 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1F344.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Progman] 09:47:47 *** M4rk [~M4rk@5351EC68.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 09:47:52 *** M4rk is now known as Mark_ 09:59:16 *** pleeby [bleepy@5ad9f86e.bb.sky.com] has joined #openttd 09:59:17 *** bleepy is now known as Guest702 09:59:17 *** pleeby is now known as bleepy 10:03:05 <dihedral> DASPRiD: it's pronounced differently! 10:03:48 *** Guest702 [bleepy@5ad00eb0.bb.sky.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:04:58 <planetmaker> dihedral: you pronounce it differently. Not him :P 10:07:29 <dihedral> all germans make the same mistake ^^ 10:07:49 *** Mark_ [~M4rk@5351EC68.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:07:53 *** M4rk [~M4rk@5351EC68.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 10:08:06 *** M4rk is now known as Mark_ 10:10:39 *** Mortal [~mortal@217.60.138.111] has joined #openttd 10:20:28 *** Mortal [~mortal@217.60.138.111] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:28:17 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@89.246.195.187] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:33:33 *** roboboy [3aad2910@webchat.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 10:33:49 <petern> nice, ohloh supports mercurial now (as a beta) 10:35:39 *** Mortal [~mortal@217.60.138.111] has joined #openttd 10:45:15 *** maristo [~maristo@host217-114-156-151.pppoe.mark-itt.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:46:55 *** Mark_ [~M4rk@5351EC68.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:52:36 *** Mortal [~mortal@217.60.138.111] has quit [Quit: from __future__ import antigravity] 10:54:28 *** roboboy [3aad2910@webchat.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 11:00:14 *** Mortal [~mortal@217.60.138.111] has joined #openttd 11:09:51 *** Mark_ [~M4rk@5351EC68.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 11:09:52 *** Mark_ is now known as M4rk 11:09:54 *** M4rk is now known as Mark_ 11:11:05 *** Mortal [~mortal@217.60.138.111] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:11:11 *** racetrack [~racetrack@c114-76-9-162.eburwd4.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:15:31 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 11:18:56 *** maristo [~maristo@host217-114-156-151.pppoe.mark-itt.net] has joined #openttd 11:20:41 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:20:41 *** Combuster is now known as [com]buster 11:29:23 <planetmaker> does the local authority setting (permissive, tolerant, hostile) also affect the rate at which the rating is restored? 11:35:41 *** pleeby [bleepy@5ad9f84b.bb.sky.com] has joined #openttd 11:35:42 *** bleepy is now known as Guest711 11:35:42 *** pleeby is now known as bleepy 11:36:19 *** bleepy [bleepy@5ad9f84b.bb.sky.com] has quit [] 11:40:24 <planetmaker> nvm. found it :) 11:42:21 *** Guest711 [bleepy@5ad9f86e.bb.sky.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:45:49 <Ammler> openttd uses 1.6 GB on the ps 11:46:20 <Ammler> also the nightly server of dih uses a lot of ram. 11:46:20 <Rubidium> Ammler: and how did you figure that out? 11:46:55 <Ammler> oh, didn't want to tell that here, hat was what I liked to ask. 11:47:28 <petern> 5074 petern 20 0 3051m 18m 3632 S 0 0.5 276:08.85 openttd 11:47:32 <Ammler> it is just that we have crashes because of "out of memory" 11:47:33 <petern> 3051? heh 11:47:50 <Ammler> never saw that before... 11:48:26 <Cybertinus> planetmaker: and what is the anwser to your question? I want to know that too ;) 11:48:35 <petern> 18MB resident, 3051MB virtual... boggle 11:48:50 <Ammler> and that virtual memory doesn't hurt? 11:49:03 <planetmaker> Cybertinus: no effect. 11:49:14 <Cybertinus> planetmaker: ok, htnx 11:49:15 <Cybertinus> thnx8 11:49:17 <Cybertinus> thnx** 11:49:20 <planetmaker> yw 11:49:24 <petern> $ free -m total used free shared buffers cached 11:49:24 <petern> Mem: 3995 3740 255 0 356 2954 11:49:26 <Cybertinus> stupid typos :p 11:49:27 <petern> no 11:50:06 <Ammler> same here, 1.6 is virtual 11:50:25 <Ammler> and 16m is resistent, if you call that so... 11:50:28 <petern> hasn't caused me a problem yet, but that is a little excessive... 11:51:10 <Ammler> it seems, that virutal server doesn't like it 11:51:39 <Ammler> the ps is on a root and didn't crash with odm 11:52:50 <Rubidium> virtual server == shared memory between all virtual servers -> when something in another virtual server uses too much memory it kills some (other) application using much memory 11:54:26 <Ammler> Rubidium: the silly thing is, you just need to restart openttd and it works again well 11:54:32 <Ammler> (same game) 11:55:02 <Rubidium> well... how about the OOM wasting more memory and killing the real run-away waster? 11:55:23 <Rubidium> I've seen it happen many many times on our dedicated server 11:56:56 <Ammler> OOM? 11:57:45 <Rubidium> real run away keeps wasting memory and then gets killed by the OOM killer 11:59:40 *** Mark_ [~M4rk@5351EC68.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:59:47 <petern> so where's out memory leak? 11:59:47 *** Mark_ [~M4rk@5351EC68.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 11:59:49 <petern> *our 11:59:50 *** Mark_ is now known as M4rk 11:59:52 *** M4rk is now known as Mark_ 12:00:38 <Rubidium> that's the question; I've ran OpenTTD on fast forward for a whole night and it didn't leak (more than just starting OpenTTD and closing it) 12:01:15 <petern> that's not a network server. coincidence? 12:01:47 <Rubidium> might be, but Zahl reported something similar 12:02:01 <Rubidium> in non-network mode 12:02:09 <Rubidium> but he's on Windows 12:02:20 <petern> my L4D server is only 192MB ;) 12:02:24 <Ammler> dih doesn't run his server with newgrfs 12:03:59 <planetmaker> Cybertinus: see the long answer there: http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=770147#p770147 12:06:31 <Ammler> petern, do you know, how long your server is running? 12:06:47 <Ammler> our ps with 1.6 GB has does 17h now 12:07:09 <petern> since feb 22 12:07:09 <Ammler> if you start openttd, is uses around 80mb 12:07:42 <Ammler> petern: I assume, it only affects, if server is unpaused 12:07:52 <petern> i have no idea 12:10:52 <Rubidium> might it have something to do with malloc randomisation? 12:14:57 <Rubidium> or address space layout randomisation 12:14:57 <petern> no 12:15:52 <Ammler> If I watch it, I would say it happens while the month change 12:16:00 <Ammler> autosave or something... 12:16:02 *** Brokkoli [~Brokkoli@e177136133.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 12:16:28 <Ammler> the memory is quite constant and jumps on the end of month 12:16:34 <petern> i have autosave on 12:16:44 <Ammler> we use monthly save here 12:16:47 <petern> yeah 12:17:02 <petern> saved me when the power went out :) 12:17:02 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:17:11 <Ammler> monthly save with 255 saves ;-) 12:17:32 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 12:18:14 <Ammler> we once needed 100 saves to restore sabotage... 12:25:32 <Ammler> wow Dutch Trainset 12:25:43 <planetmaker> ? 12:26:26 <Rubidium> at least their 1.0 came before dbset's 1.0 12:28:41 <petern> 1.0 is overrated 12:29:06 <Rubidium> very true 12:29:30 <Forked> today it's all about the google way [Beta] 12:29:33 <Rubidium> people think OpenTTD is about 15 times worse than Simutrans just because we're only at 0.6 and they're are 0.100 12:29:44 <Forked> wait.. 12:29:47 <Forked> 0.6 > 0.1? =p 12:30:37 <thingwath> depends 12:31:52 <sexten> I've never heard of Simutrans until 1 minute ago, and ewww that looks ugly:/ 12:31:57 <petern> hahaha 12:32:22 <Ammler> do you distribute opengfx with the windows installer of 7beta? 12:33:32 <Ammler> I installed it yeterday for the comic.pak but already deleted again. 12:33:54 <Rubidium> no... and it certainly won't be added until it's finished; I dislike all those OpenTTD is broken because of the black boxes" which undoubtedly is going to happen a lot 12:34:18 <Ammler> hmm, was just wondering about someone complained about the black boxes after he installed it. 12:34:42 <Ammler> yeah :-) 12:35:14 <Ammler> then he needed to activate it accidentially? 12:35:52 <Ammler> or does that happen automatically after you donwload it? 12:36:15 <Ammler> (with bananas) 12:36:17 <petern> if you download it it takes priority if you haven't specificially set the base graphics set 12:36:22 <petern> so when you restart it'll get chosen 12:36:40 <Ammler> most people just downlad all 12:36:55 <petern> that's their problem 12:37:08 <Ammler> indeed 12:39:08 <Rubidium> which is the reason there's no "select all" button 12:39:20 <dihedral> \o/ 12:39:21 <Ammler> there isn't? 12:39:51 <Rubidium> only when selecting specific content, i.e. when opening it with missing newgrfs 12:40:49 <dihedral> Ammler, dont you dig into my vps issues like that - it's not an openttd issue 12:41:08 <dihedral> yes the vps runs out of mem but it's not inside the vps 12:41:18 <dihedral> that said 12:41:25 <Ammler> thanks :P 12:41:34 <dihedral> dont you _ever_ ask someone with op rights in that channel to quit my server again! 12:41:55 <dihedral> you know of enough ways to contact me 12:42:04 <dihedral> or Osai 12:42:09 <dihedral> Ammler ^ 12:42:12 <dihedral> i hope that is clear! 12:43:30 <Ammler> omg are you a stupid quy. 12:44:00 <dihedral> ?? 12:44:02 <dihedral> excuse me? 12:46:09 <Forked> I can't decide if I want to get popcorn or not for this. (ignore me btw) 12:46:53 <Rubidium> then decide on whether you can or can't decide 12:48:00 <petern> haha 12:48:09 <petern> what happened? 12:48:34 *** Skiddles [~notme@cm123.psi148.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #openttd 12:51:08 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 12:51:11 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 12:51:50 <petern> oh right 12:52:04 <petern> that's not exactly ammler's fault 12:52:31 <petern> i should take people off ignore :p 12:53:19 <Rubidium> petern: nah, just guess who might've said something (stupid) 12:54:23 *** Singaporekid [~notme@cm123.psi148.maxonline.com.sg] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:55:59 <dihedral> petern, i kind of dislike it when people try to solve an issue on a server, and instead of getting in touch with me, decide to tell someone that i am find with them mucking around 12:56:05 <petern> i rather guess the other way 12:56:07 <petern> it's simpler 12:56:11 <dihedral> :-P 12:56:31 <dihedral> i prefer being contacted if something does not work on my vps 12:56:33 <petern> it's not ammler's fault if the people you trust are stupid 12:56:54 <dihedral> well they know now ;-) 12:59:20 <petern> Fetched 60.2MB in 7s (8224kB/s) 12:59:25 <petern> not *too* shoddy 12:59:33 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.23.154.97] has joined #openttd 12:59:47 <dihedral> that's alright ^^ 12:59:50 <dihedral> *cough* 13:00:00 <Forked> meh 13:00:06 <petern> only a 100mbit network card, iirc 13:00:06 <Forked> my NIC is the slowest thing here 13:00:08 <petern> well 13:00:09 <Forked> yep 13:00:11 <petern> only a 100mbit network connection 13:01:08 <Forked> several gigabits of internet uplink!1one 13:01:17 <Forked> and they wont let me place even a 1U server anywhere :\ 13:01:34 <petern> heh 13:01:43 <petern> we only have 100mbit connections 13:02:13 <Forked> 100Mbit LAN.. lots of gigabits of internet.. like any ISP should have 13:02:18 <Forked> the last part anyway 13:02:37 <dihedral> at least ;-) 13:07:11 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@89.246.195.187] has joined #openttd 13:12:30 *** Mortomes [~mortomes@i15108.upc-i.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 13:34:48 *** Splex [~splex@121.165.245.9] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:37:10 <Timitry> Uh 13:37:21 <Timitry> found a bug in pbs-pathfinding, i think 13:37:36 <planetmaker> Many thought that :) 13:38:01 <DASPRiD> planetmaker, \o/ 13:38:33 <planetmaker> ho DASPRiD 13:38:37 *** thvdburgt [~thvdburgt@z037133.its-s.tudelft.nl] has joined #openttd 13:40:33 <Timitry> http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/2917/pbscrash.png 13:41:53 <Timitry> As soon as the first train completely passes the crossing tracks there, the train on the upper right makes a reservation... 13:42:51 <Timitry> Worth a FS-entry? Or did i miss something? :) 13:42:58 <Timitry> I know it's an ugly construction... 13:45:02 <planetmaker> Timitry: I see two signals and three trains. Something has to crash... 13:45:22 <Timitry> Yes, but why did the train on the upper right not stay at the signal before the bridge 13:45:23 <Timitry> ? 13:46:07 <planetmaker> so there's a signal upper right out of the image which wasn't forced through? 13:46:13 <Timitry> yep 13:46:19 <planetmaker> he :) 13:46:20 <Timitry> second, i'm making a better picture 13:46:54 <Timitry> http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/2917/pbscrash.png 13:47:06 <Timitry> The train first waited at the signal before the bridge 13:47:19 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-228-38.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 13:47:21 <Timitry> And when the middle train completely passed the crossing tracks, it made a reservation and started moving 13:48:11 <planetmaker> Timitry: I don't understand how it happs. I guess make a FS entry with a save before the 3rd train starts 13:48:18 <petern> savegame before ;) 13:48:19 <Timitry> yep 13:49:02 <Timitry> http://bugs.openttd.org/task/2701 13:50:41 <petern> ps 13:50:50 <petern> don't say "where the screen is centered" 13:51:07 <petern> because it's dependent on screen resolution 13:51:33 <petern> or window size 13:52:32 <planetmaker> [13:52] <petern> that's not exactly ammler's fault 13:52:34 <planetmaker> [13:56] <petern> i rather guess the other way 13:52:51 <petern> planetmaker: different conversations 13:53:05 <planetmaker> uhm... yeah 13:53:13 <planetmaker> sorry 13:54:04 <Timitry> Okay, but it will happen in the window if you don't move it :) 13:57:33 <Timitry> And another question / general wondering: In this picture: http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/7910/whynot.png - Why would the train at the left bottom not reserve a path to the middle and then wait in that loop? It would be a safe waiting position, and the other train could still pass it... 13:58:52 * dihedral dislikes those signal images... 14:00:43 <Timitry> Hehe... If i make the short track in the middle (the upper left one) a bit longer, it works... 14:01:30 <planetmaker> Timitry: how long is your train in tiles? 14:02:01 *** Mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.cpe.ge-1-1-0-1101.odnqu1.customer.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 14:04:41 <Ammler> memory again at 250MB (after 1.4h) 14:05:41 *** mib_e4qmo8 [83dc24f1@webchat.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 14:05:52 *** mib_e4qmo8 is now known as Timitry_ 14:05:57 <Timitry_> Stupid PC... 14:06:03 <Ammler> seems like it grows constantly with time. 14:06:15 <Timitry_> Anything i missed after writing "Hehe... asdadsasdasd" 14:06:19 <Timitry_> ? 14:06:29 <dihedral> !logs 14:06:35 *** Timitry [83dc24f1@webchat.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 14:06:45 <dihedral> or read through thegrebs.com 14:07:51 <planetmaker> [15:01] <planetmaker> Timitry: how long is your train in tiles? 14:07:51 <Cybertinus> heh 14:07:52 <Cybertinus> strange 14:08:09 <Cybertinus> I have disabled "transparent buildings" 14:08:15 <Timitry_> Oh, thanks for the link 14:08:19 <Cybertinus> but all my stations and depots are transparent 14:08:20 <Timitry_> The trains are all 5 tiles long 14:08:27 <Cybertinus> but the buildings arn't 14:08:46 <dihedral> Cybertinus, press ctrl+x 14:08:57 <planetmaker> Cybertinus: Ctrl+x 14:09:01 <Cybertinus> ah, found why 14:09:05 <dihedral> i beat you too it :-P 14:09:08 <Cybertinus> for some reason I was building a sing 14:09:09 <dihedral> *to 14:09:11 <Cybertinus> sign* 14:09:32 <Cybertinus> and I was changing the text 14:09:54 <Cybertinus> that explains why it didn't respont to pressing x, but responded somewhat to changing the setting with the mouse :p 14:10:13 <Cybertinus> what does ctrl+x do 14:10:14 <Cybertinus> ? 14:10:28 *** pound_fool [~pound_foo@static-66-16-55-157.dsl.cavtel.net] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.6/2009011913]] 14:11:38 <dihedral> Cybertinus, do it and find out! 14:11:42 <dihedral> :-P 14:12:07 <dihedral> it opens the transparency options window 14:12:09 <Cybertinus> oeh, nice 14:12:13 <Cybertinus> transparency options 14:12:18 <Cybertinus> didn't know they existed :D 14:12:25 <dihedral> you can define what level of transparency is used when you press x 14:12:39 <dihedral> play around with it a bit ;-) 14:13:11 *** Swallow [~chatzilla@5355F5FD.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 14:13:30 <Cybertinus> indeed 14:13:37 <Cybertinus> but it doesn't remember it :( 14:13:50 <Cybertinus> I disable a few of them 14:13:53 <Cybertinus> press x twice 14:13:59 <Cybertinus> and the are all enabled again 14:14:37 *** Timitry_ [83dc24f1@webchat.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 14:18:18 <Ammler> Cybertinus: lock mode 14:18:51 <Ammler> (ctrl-click on the icon, iirc) 14:19:00 <Cybertinus> ok 14:19:14 <dihedral> is there not a button below each icon? 14:19:35 *** Splex [~splex@121.165.245.9] has joined #openttd 14:19:41 <Ammler> that is for invisible 14:20:00 <Cybertinus> nice 14:20:07 <Cybertinus> ctrl-click works perfectly 14:20:36 <Cybertinus> that everything was transparent was one of the little downsides of (o)TTD 14:20:40 <Cybertinus> that is solved now :) 14:22:43 <Cybertinus> now I don't have to see trees ever again :) 14:29:17 <MrFrans> =D \o/ 14:30:01 <Belugas> mmh... i'd turn off that feature while walking outside, if i were you... 14:30:19 <Forked> no no .. just film him walk into a tree 14:30:24 <planetmaker> ymmd, Belugas :D 14:31:33 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@fuco.sks1.muni.cz] has joined #openttd 14:31:33 *** BobbySixkiller [~dota.keys@fuco.sks1.muni.cz] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:35:13 <Cybertinus> lol Belugas 14:54:09 *** TinoDid [~projectjj@port432.ds1-od.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 14:54:14 *** |Japa| [~Japa@117.201.98.183] has joined #openttd 14:55:27 *** wild_Ari [~hase2@dslb-084-062-028-237.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 14:55:33 <wild_Ari> !password 14:55:33 *** wild_Ari was kicked from #openttd by DorpsGek [Wrong channel. Retry in #openttdcoop.] 14:55:43 *** wild_Ari [~hase2@dslb-084-062-028-237.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 14:56:12 *** wild_Ari [~hase2@dslb-084-062-028-237.pools.arcor-ip.net] has left #openttd [] 14:56:24 <Belugas> good bot... very good bot! 14:56:31 * Belugas pats the bot 14:57:47 *** TinoDidriksen [~projectjj@port432.ds1-od.adsl.cybercity.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:59:16 <dihedral> does the bot trim the string? :-P 14:59:27 <dihedral> or is it still petern's script? 14:59:50 <Eddi|zuHause> it's glx's script 14:59:53 <dihedral> ah 15:03:13 <Eddi|zuHause> <Timitry> And another question / general wondering: In this picture: http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/7910/whynot.png - Why would the train at the left bottom not reserve a path to the middle and then wait in that loop? It would be a safe waiting position, and the other train could still pass it... <- the pathfinder thinks the reserved path is shorter than the detour, you need to increase pbs_cross_penalty to make the train consider 15:03:14 <Eddi|zuHause> longer detours (might cause sideeffects elsewhere) 15:08:28 *** Dred_furst [~Dred@resnet538.bournemouth.ac.uk] has joined #openttd 15:16:07 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-228-38.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:24:36 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-228-38.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 15:28:40 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@161-18-80-78.strcechy.adsl-llu.static.bluetone.cz] has joined #openttd 15:34:20 *** Skiddles [~notme@cm123.psi148.maxonline.com.sg] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:47:00 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590fc753.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #openttd 15:57:22 *** |Japa| [~Japa@117.201.98.183] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 16:00:03 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:00:33 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 16:01:17 *** Mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.cpe.ge-1-1-0-1101.odnqu1.customer.tele.dk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:01:46 *** Mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.cpe.ge-1-1-0-1101.odnqu1.customer.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 16:06:00 *** paul_ [~paul@host81-158-78-47.range81-158.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 16:06:38 *** DephNet[Paul] [~paul@host81-158-78-47.range81-158.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:09:01 *** paul_ [~paul@host81-158-78-47.range81-158.btcentralplus.com] has quit [] 16:09:24 *** DephNet[Paul] [~paul@host81-158-78-47.range81-158.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 16:12:47 *** smeding [~smeding@5354BE76.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 16:14:35 *** |Japa| [~Japa@117.201.98.91] has joined #openttd 16:15:08 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: michi_cc * r15619 /trunk/src/yapf/yapf_rail.cpp: -Fix [FS#2701]: When trying to reserve a self-crossing path the failed reservation was sometimes not cleared completely. 16:17:48 *** Mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.cpe.ge-1-1-0-1101.odnqu1.customer.tele.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:19:20 *** Rubidium [~Rubidium@rbijker.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:22:20 *** Firzen [~chatzilla@dslb-088-069-215-008.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 16:23:04 <Firzen> Is it possible to load a savegame with a dedicated server? 16:23:57 <frosch123> type "openttd -h" and watch out for an option to load a savegame 16:24:09 <Brokkoli> or in the server console 16:24:12 <Brokkoli> "load" 16:24:51 <Firzen> Ok, I'll try it ^^ Will this work if the server has other settings than the savegame? 16:25:27 <Brokkoli> some settings are loaded from the savegame 16:25:44 <Brokkoli> but you need the newgrfs 16:26:34 <Firzen> What about patches and autosave interval? 16:26:38 *** |Japa| [~Japa@117.201.98.91] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:26:47 *** Swallow [~chatzilla@5355F5FD.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.6/2009011913]] 16:28:20 <frosch123> autosave is not stored in the savegame 16:28:34 <Brokkoli> but some patch options are 16:28:45 <Ammler> Firzen: use 0.7beta or nightlies and you don't have any patch options anymore ;-) 16:28:58 <Brokkoli> extended options *g* 16:29:20 <Brokkoli> http://wiki.openttd.org/wiki/index.php/Console you might want to look here for commands 16:29:36 <Firzen> Thanks. 16:29:59 <Ammler> those adv. settings important for the game are saved in the game, those important for the server in the cfg. 16:32:27 *** Mortomes [~mortomes@i15108.upc-i.chello.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:33:32 *** Mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.cpe.ge-1-1-0-1101.odnqu1.customer.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 16:36:25 <Firzen> So it's 'rcon PW "load save/autosave/autosave1.sav"', isn't it? 16:37:41 <Brokkoli> i think it's without "save/" 16:38:35 <Firzen> Doesn't work either. 16:39:11 <Brokkoli> try a 'rcon PW list' 16:39:23 <Brokkoli> 'rcon PW ls' 16:39:26 <Brokkoli> sorry ;) 16:40:26 <Firzen> 0) .. (Parent) || 1) autosave/ (Directory) 16:40:56 <Firzen> As output. 16:41:25 <Firzen> So autosave/autosave1.sav should work <.< 16:41:26 <Brokkoli> rcon PW cd 1 16:41:49 <glx> "cd 1" ;) 16:41:56 <Brokkoli> ;) 16:41:59 <Brokkoli> then again ls 16:42:05 <Brokkoli> and load <number> 16:42:58 *** Mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.cpe.ge-1-1-0-1101.odnqu1.customer.tele.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:43:19 *** Mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.cpe.ge-1-1-0-1101.odnqu1.customer.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 16:43:46 <Firzen> The problem was the .sav 16:59:40 *** DaleStan [~Dale@pool-71-98-104-215.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:01:32 *** Mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.cpe.ge-1-1-0-1101.odnqu1.customer.tele.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:01:57 *** DaleStan [~Dale@pool-71-98-104-215.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 17:20:38 *** narc is now known as Guest763 17:20:40 *** narc [~narc@86.104.40.152] has joined #openttd 17:21:54 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: belugas * r15620 /trunk/src/map_func.h: -Fix[FS#2699]: Error in documentation (Conditional Zenith). 17:22:24 *** Lakie [~Lakie@91.84.251.149] has joined #openttd 17:26:21 *** Dred_furst [~Dred@resnet538.bournemouth.ac.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:27:01 *** Guest763 [~narc@86.104.40.152] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:30:15 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@94-224-31-113.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 17:31:34 *** |Japa| [~Japa@117.201.100.49] has joined #openttd 17:32:17 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@94-224-31-113.access.telenet.be] has quit [] 17:33:12 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 17:35:36 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:35:36 *** Combuster is now known as [com]buster 17:38:07 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: peter1138 * r15621 /trunk/src/vehicle.cpp: -Feature: When cloning a vehicle with a custom name, add and/or increment a number at the end of name and assign it to the new vehicle (for emma) 17:41:03 *** Mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.cpe.ge-1-1-0-1101.odnqu1.customer.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 17:41:36 *** Mortomes [~mortomes@e224212.upc-e.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 17:46:34 <Yexo> petern: any reason for not using IsUniqueVehicleName ? 17:47:00 <Yexo> vehicles names are currently globally unique, not only per company 17:47:02 *** Yeggs-work is now known as Yeggstry 17:47:26 <petern> mmm duplication 17:49:05 *** Mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.cpe.ge-1-1-0-1101.odnqu1.customer.tele.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:49:52 <Yexo> and it doesn't increate the number with a train named "mytrain (3)", but that's by design I guess 17:51:13 *** lolman [~lolman@static-87-102-80-68.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:51:26 <petern> can't catch everything :/ 17:51:46 <petern> you should at least get "mytrain (3) 2" 17:51:54 *** lolman [~lolman@static-87-102-80-68.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 17:52:05 <Yexo> it does that 17:52:46 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: peter1138 * r15622 /trunk/src/vehicle.cpp: -Codechange: Duplication. 17:52:53 <Yexo> and that's ok, updating "(3)" gives more problems with the conversion from 9 to 10 17:53:36 <Yexo> ifffffff <- hehe :p 17:55:18 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 18:16:06 *** PhoenixII [ralph@home.deboom.biz] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:17:43 *** el_en [~lanurmi@dyn-xdsl-83-150-113-243.nebulazone.fi] has joined #openttd 18:18:57 <el_en> hello, borgs. 18:20:35 *** Sacro [~ben@static-87-102-39-137.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 18:21:19 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host148-237-dynamic.5-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 18:21:29 <Wolf01> hello 18:22:18 <el_en> you're late 18:23:33 <Wolf01> yes, 3 days late 18:26:24 *** Rubidium [~Rubidium@rbijker.net] has joined #openttd 18:26:27 *** mode/#openttd [+o Rubidium] by ChanServ 18:35:16 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77C67.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:35:32 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77C67.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 18:43:22 *** Mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.cpe.ge-1-1-0-1101.odnqu1.customer.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 18:48:56 *** [com]buster is now known as [gone]buster 19:06:46 *** SHRIKEE [~shrikee@84-105-52-118.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #openttd 19:12:16 *** Firzen [~chatzilla@dslb-088-069-215-008.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.6/2009011913]] 19:14:54 *** [gone]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:15:15 *** [gone]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 19:23:22 *** smeding [~smeding@5354BE76.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:26:30 <Wolf01> 'night 19:26:34 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host148-237-dynamic.5-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 19:29:22 *** Mortal is now known as Guest778 19:31:04 *** smeding [~smeding@5354BE76.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 19:31:12 *** Mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.cpe.ge-1-1-0-1101.odnqu1.customer.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 19:31:49 *** jpm_ [pekka@kone.suomen4g.fi] has joined #openttd 19:31:58 *** Timitry [~Tim@p5B37ECBB.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 19:32:16 *** jpm [pekka@kone.suomen4g.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:34:08 *** TinoDid is now known as TinoDidriksen 19:35:05 *** Guest778 [~mortal@0x573a3da2.cpe.ge-1-1-0-1101.odnqu1.customer.tele.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:38:48 *** tkjacobsen [~tkjacobse@pppoe2-ves.broadcom.dk] has joined #openttd 19:41:19 <Timitry> Are tasks in FlySpray always deleted after they are solved / included? 19:41:33 <SmatZ> they are never deleted 19:41:36 <SmatZ> they are just closed 19:41:40 <Timitry> But tahnks to michi_cc for fixing that PBS-issue! 19:41:50 <Timitry> Will try if it works tomorrow :) 19:41:54 <Timitry> Hm... 19:42:44 <SmatZ> http://bugs.openttd.org/task/2701 works perfectly for me 19:43:12 <Timitry> hm yes 19:43:21 <Timitry> just found that by the irc logs... 19:43:49 <SmatZ> you can show all tasks when you use that +Advanced button ;) 19:43:51 <Timitry> ah, now i found it over the flyspray-search... 19:43:54 <Timitry> ;) 19:46:03 <planetmaker> Timitry: or bugs.openttd.org/fs2701 should also work - if you know the number 19:47:52 <SmatZ> !fs 2701 19:47:56 <SmatZ> or so :-p 19:49:38 *** jpm_ is now known as jpm 19:50:11 <Ammler> or just use advanced search and look for your Task... 19:51:40 <Yexo> @bug 2701 19:51:40 <DorpsGek> Yexo: Temporary Offline 19:51:59 <Yexo> dunno why it doesn't work, but that is the correct command :p 19:54:35 <frosch123> @fs 2701 19:54:35 <DorpsGek> frosch123: http://bugs.openttd.org/task/2701 19:54:37 <frosch123> :) 19:57:35 <SmatZ> frosch123 knows the magic character :) 19:57:39 *** qozumeryj [~qozumeryj@193.43.249.169] has joined #openttd 19:57:46 <SmatZ> oh noes, a qozumeryj 19:57:48 <SmatZ> @seen qozumeryj 19:57:50 <DorpsGek> SmatZ: I have not seen qozumeryj. 20:04:23 *** Mortomes [~mortomes@e224212.upc-e.chello.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:11:23 *** Phoenix_the_II [ralph@home.deboom.biz] has joined #openttd 20:12:45 *** Dred_furst [~Dred@resnet538.bournemouth.ac.uk] has joined #openttd 20:15:32 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@a62-251-30-68.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 20:22:01 *** valhalla1w [~valhallas@a62-251-30-68.adsl.xs4all.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:23:44 *** sigmund_ [~sigmund@91.80-202-245.nextgentel.com] has joined #openttd 20:23:58 *** Mortomes [~mortomes@i15108.upc-i.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 20:25:30 *** sigmund [~sigmund@91.80-202-245.nextgentel.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:26:11 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@161-18-80-78.strcechy.adsl-llu.static.bluetone.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:33:47 *** maristo [~maristo@host217-114-156-151.pppoe.mark-itt.net] has quit [Quit: Ð£Ñ ÐŸÐ¶Ñ Ñ ÐŸÑ Ð²Ð°Ñ (xchat 2.4.5 ОлО ÑÑаÑÑе)] 20:39:53 *** likufanele [~fikulak@77-254-67-203.adsl.inetia.pl] has joined #openttd 20:41:37 <likufanele> hello... I haven't been playing ottd for a while but didn't the mouse pointer moved along when panning around...? 20:42:45 *** Mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.cpe.ge-1-1-0-1101.odnqu1.customer.tele.dk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:43:10 *** Mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.cpe.ge-1-1-0-1101.odnqu1.customer.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 20:45:02 *** mikl [~mikl@80.199.116.190.static.peytz.dk] has joined #openttd 20:45:39 <SmatZ> likufanele: hello, no 20:45:41 *** planetmaker is now known as Tycoon 20:46:21 <frosch123> there are a lot of different scrolling mechanisms 20:46:35 *** Tycoon is now known as planetmaker 20:46:40 <frosch123> you can inverse the scroll direction when right-click-scrolling 20:46:48 *** JapaMala [~Japa@117.201.100.49] has joined #openttd 20:46:49 <frosch123> you can scroll by left-clicking on free tiles 20:47:01 <frosch123> you can scroll by moving the mouse near the edge of the window 20:47:10 <frosch123> take a look at advanced settings :) 20:47:11 *** planetmaker is now known as Guest786 20:48:29 *** Guest786 is now known as planetmaker 20:49:54 <likufanele> hmm... how about the original ttd...? 20:50:22 *** KritiK [~Maxim@78-106-142-249.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 20:50:59 <SmatZ> likufanele: hello, no 20:51:37 <likufanele> hmm... I'm suddenly thrown off by the lack of mouse pointer movement when panning... :/ 20:52:38 *** |Japa| [~Japa@117.201.100.49] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:52:38 *** JapaMala is now known as |Japa| 20:52:41 *** Mortal is now known as Guest787 20:52:43 *** Mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.cpe.ge-1-1-0-1101.odnqu1.customer.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 20:53:53 <likufanele> this is so weird... :/ 20:53:55 <frosch123> hmm, the fan of my graphicscard is driven by a two-stroke engine :/ 20:54:27 <SmatZ> hehe 20:55:08 <frosch123> about two weeks ago it started to become louder, now the noise changes every 5 minutes to something other strange 20:55:20 <frosch123> vacuum cleaning did not help :( 20:55:33 <SmatZ> maybe it's the time... 20:56:15 *** Guest787 [~mortal@0x573a3da2.cpe.ge-1-1-0-1101.odnqu1.customer.tele.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:56:15 *** George3 [~George@212.113.107.216] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:59:09 *** George [~George@212.113.107.216] has joined #openttd 21:00:20 <likufanele> oh... I know why... it's probably because of my extensive use of Google Earth... 21:04:58 <Belugas> mouse moving while panning? 21:05:07 <Belugas> me brain cannot visualise 21:05:08 <planetmaker> meh... :( Better change now... frosch123 :) 21:05:32 <planetmaker> Or the stork will get it :P 21:07:22 <frosch123> it is still running :) 21:07:42 <Belugas> and.... 21:07:47 <Belugas> vrooooooom... 21:07:50 <Belugas> it jsut passed by! 21:07:56 <planetmaker> :P 21:08:24 <planetmaker> We had a wonderful SGI. But it was as loud as a industrial grade vacuum cleaner. Noone wanted to use it... 21:08:39 *** likufanele [~fikulak@77-254-67-203.adsl.inetia.pl] has left #openttd [] 21:09:23 <planetmaker> ... don't spoil your computer fun, frosch123 :) 21:09:57 *** qozumeryj [~qozumeryj@193.43.249.169] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:10:14 <frosch123> the fan is not comparable with a blade of a turbo-pump that runs with 15000 U/s in vacuum and that passes through walls if broken 21:11:06 <planetmaker> lol yeah 21:11:09 *** feditezyn [~feditezyn@193.43.249.169] has joined #openttd 21:12:03 <planetmaker> and they really become loud after some time, if you sand-ray them from the inside :P 21:12:39 <petern> # sand-raaaaay, sand-ray! duh-duh duh duh duh duh 21:14:20 <planetmaker> hey, that's even patented ;) 21:14:51 <planetmaker> but only in Germany :P 21:15:02 <frosch123> what? destroying a turbo-pump with a sand-ray? 21:16:56 <planetmaker> kinda, yeah :) 21:17:12 <planetmaker> Though the use is to des-agglomerate micron particles 21:17:35 <planetmaker> but if particles = silica it amounts to sand-raying the turbo-pump 21:18:06 *** lolman [~lolman@static-87-102-80-68.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:18:42 *** feditezyn [~feditezyn@193.43.249.169] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:19:52 <frosch123> hmm, wikipedia says I was factor 10 wrong, they only run at 1500 U/s 21:21:51 <planetmaker> I guess wiki is wrong 21:22:09 <planetmaker> 15k U/min sounded about right 21:22:17 <glx> until it's quoted in a newspaper ;) 21:22:22 <planetmaker> :P 21:22:25 <frosch123> I sayd U/s ! 21:22:31 <planetmaker> oh 21:22:33 *** Mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.cpe.ge-1-1-0-1101.odnqu1.customer.tele.dk] has quit [Quit: from __future__ import antigravity] 21:22:39 <frosch123> 15k per minute is far to less :) 21:22:51 <petern> wtf is U? 21:23:03 <frosch123> germanism 21:23:07 <petern> you and your germanisms 21:23:22 <planetmaker> rotations 21:23:27 <planetmaker> rpm 21:25:25 *** Illegal_Alien [~Illegal_A@77.163.150.18] has joined #openttd 21:33:32 *** |Japa| [~Japa@117.201.100.49] has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- The alternative IRC client] 21:37:59 *** [gone]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:38:22 *** [gone]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 21:38:28 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590fc753.pool.einsundeins.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:43:47 *** tkjacobsen [~tkjacobse@pppoe2-ves.broadcom.dk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:46:45 * Belugas runs to catch his bus 21:46:47 <Belugas> night all 21:46:52 <Timitry> night 21:46:54 <Belugas> swwwwiiiiiiift 21:50:15 <Rubidium> fly Belugas fly ;) 21:56:34 *** Timitry [~Tim@p5B37ECBB.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:57:34 *** thvdburgt [~thvdburgt@z037133.its-s.tudelft.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:57:44 *** Frans [~MrFrans@a80-101-158-105.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 21:59:26 *** MrFrans [~MrFrans@a80-101-158-105.adsl.xs4all.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:01:11 *** Felicitus [~Felicitus@idefix.timohummel.com] has joined #openttd 22:01:17 <Felicitus> good evening 22:01:57 <Yexo> good evening Felicitus 22:02:47 <Felicitus> screw oracle! 22:02:57 *** racetrack [~rob@lena.its.monash.edu.au] has joined #openttd 22:04:34 *** Brianetta [~brian@client-82-20-28-97.brhm.adsl.virgin.net] has joined #openttd 22:14:05 *** paul_ [~paul@host81-158-78-47.range81-158.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 22:14:09 *** MrFrans [~MrFrans@a80-101-158-105.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 22:14:15 *** Frans [~MrFrans@a80-101-158-105.adsl.xs4all.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:14:41 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r15623 /trunk/src/fios.cpp: -Fix (r15615): close the files you've opened 22:16:54 *** DephNet[Paul] [~paul@host81-158-78-47.range81-158.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:18:32 *** paul_ [~paul@host81-158-78-47.range81-158.btcentralplus.com] has quit [] 22:18:54 *** DephNet[Paul] [~paul@host81-158-78-47.range81-158.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 22:19:35 *** MrFrans [~MrFrans@a80-101-158-105.adsl.xs4all.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:19:46 *** MrFrans [~MrFrans@a80-101-158-105.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 22:25:04 *** valhalla1w [~valhallas@a62-251-30-68.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 22:25:04 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@a62-251-30-68.adsl.xs4all.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:26:24 *** Illegal_Alien [~Illegal_A@77.163.150.18] has quit [Quit: Ik ga weg] 22:28:00 *** energetic [~opera@ip82-139-119-221.lijbrandt.net] has left #openttd [] 22:28:53 *** Nite_Owl [~Nite_Owl@c-98-211-146-65.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 22:29:04 *** Yeggstry [~mind@cpc2-rdng22-2-0-cust533.15-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:29:21 <Nite_Owl> Hello all 22:30:56 <SmatZ> hello night owl 22:31:04 <Nite_Owl> petern: On behalf of all the compulsive, insane re-namers who play this game Thank You for r15621 22:31:16 <Nite_Owl> Hello SmatZ 22:33:08 <Nite_Owl> I thanked you and all of the other developers on the forums also just to reach a larger crowd 22:34:08 <petern> heh 22:34:11 <petern> you can't use it! 22:34:16 <petern> it was for emma :o 22:34:19 <petern> ;) 22:35:24 * petern off to bed 22:35:26 <Nite_Owl> ok - I will not use it <has his fingers crossed behind his back> 22:35:43 <petern> hehe 22:35:52 <Nite_Owl> good night petern 22:36:19 <Nite_Owl> out of curiosity - who is emma? 22:40:39 *** smeding [~smeding@5354BE76.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:42:18 *** SHRIKEE [~shrikee@84-105-52-118.cable.quicknet.nl] has quit [Quit: SHRIKEE] 22:42:30 <petern> just a friend 22:43:27 <Nite_Owl> who renames everything 22:43:38 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #openttd [] 22:45:27 <petern> one would assume so 22:48:53 *** el_en [~lanurmi@dyn-xdsl-83-150-113-243.nebulazone.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:51:09 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@a62-251-30-68.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 22:51:13 *** valhalla1w [~valhallas@a62-251-30-68.adsl.xs4all.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:55:59 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: smatz * r15624 /trunk/src/vehicle.cpp: -Fix (r15621): warning about comparing signed and unsigned integer types 22:56:32 *** valhalla1w [~valhallas@a62-251-30-68.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 22:59:39 <petern> good ol' msvc 23:03:32 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@a62-251-30-68.adsl.xs4all.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:04:27 *** zodttd [~me@user-142gtg7.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #openttd 23:20:16 *** Dred_furst [~Dred@resnet538.bournemouth.ac.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:20:48 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-228-38.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:22:34 <[wito]> So I was thinking 23:23:08 <racetrack> uhoh 23:23:20 <[wito]> :P 23:23:26 <Sacro> oh dear 23:23:27 <[wito]> Cliffs 23:23:29 <Sacro> no thinking 23:23:48 <[wito]> like the ones generated by AutoSlopes, ya? 23:24:26 <[wito]> except in a user-controllable context 23:24:37 <Prof_Frink> Mmm, cliffs 23:24:52 <Sacro> of dover? 23:25:06 <Prof_Frink> Nah, they're chalk. 23:25:10 <[wito]> Sacro: nay, Moher. 23:25:17 <Sacro> oh? 23:25:18 <[wito]> *badum-tish* 23:25:56 <[wito]> what would be more intimidating than the company HQ on top of a 500 m tall pillar? 23:26:13 <Sacro> the 500m tall pillar on top of the HQ 23:26:21 <racetrack> [wito]: company hq on top of a 500m tall volcano 23:27:02 <[wito]> :P 23:27:13 <[wito]> Or how about a town perched on a precarious coastline cliff? 23:27:34 <Sacro> or on top of a pillar 23:27:48 <[wito]> or on top of a pillar, yeah 23:28:09 <Prof_Frink> Cliffs should attract tourists. 23:28:10 <[wito]> or an even just slightly accurate Grand Canyon 2048*2048 scenario? 23:28:42 <Rubidium> [wito]: and how do you look 'behind' those cliffs? 23:28:51 *** wollollo [~martin@dyn1076-82.hor.ic.ac.uk] has joined #openttd 23:29:09 <[wito]> Rubidium: waddayamean behind? 23:31:22 <glx> just imagine a road in the canyon, how can you see it? 23:31:34 <glx> and how to place it? 23:31:45 <[wito]> right 23:31:48 <[wito]> that... 23:32:17 * glx waits for rotate view suggestion ;) 23:32:52 <[wito]> yeah, when is that coming? :P 23:33:10 <[wito]> if the canyon is sufficiently deep and narrow, tho', that won't fix it 23:33:18 <[wito]> top-down view? ;) 23:33:28 <glx> it's not doable as you'll need to redraw many sprites 23:33:46 <[wito]> layer caking? 23:34:19 <glx> there are no layers 23:34:33 <[wito]> and there is no spoon. :P 23:34:35 <Prof_Frink> Even transparentier mode? 23:35:00 <[wito]> Prof_Frink: given that we now have invisible, that would have to be transparentierier 23:35:09 <SmatZ> [wito]: like, multitile buildings - town houses, industries, HQ, ... 23:35:22 <glx> airports 23:36:14 <[wito]> I know. :P 23:36:20 <[wito]> Top-down view was a joke. :P 23:36:44 <Rubidium> how to look under a bridge in top-down view? ;) 23:37:03 <wollollo> would it be possible to make all ground tiles above a certain height invisible? 23:37:03 <[wito]> :P 23:37:16 <[wito]> but isn't building bases textures on a plane? 23:37:29 <wollollo> so you could "peel" the landscape down to where you wanted? 23:38:04 <Rubidium> wollollo: depends on what invisible means; if you mean don't draw them that'll work 23:38:07 <[wito]> If I understand the current mechanics of the surface, my next suggestion would be easier to implement: 23:38:11 <[wito]> Pathfinding autorail! 23:38:53 <glx> where's the fun with that? 23:38:55 *** DaleStan is now known as Guest807 23:38:57 *** DaleStan [~Dale@pool-71-98-104-215.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 23:39:23 <Yexo> [wito]: next suggestions: also build stations automatically, next suggestions: press a button and let the game play itself 23:39:32 *** Zahl [~Zahl@f051195120.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Quit: Rhabarberbarbarabarbarbarenbartbarbierbierbar] 23:39:36 <[wito]> glx: make it dumb as a box of hammers; and only enabled for non-multidirectional rail. :P 23:40:34 <SmatZ> [wito]: I think there is a patch like that at tt-forums (somewhere) ... at least I know I tried it :) 23:40:54 <Aali> [wito]: you can do that yourself with NoAI 23:41:48 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@a82-95-167-159.adsl.xs4all.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:41:58 *** Guest807 [~Dale@pool-71-98-104-215.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:42:01 <[wito]> oh 23:43:47 <[wito]> "In conclusion, cliffs, while providing an interesting new dimension (heh) to the visual planning of a terrain, introduce several technical dilemmas that must be considered before formal design can commence." 23:46:13 <SmatZ> nicely said that "users won't see what they are building behind cliffs" 23:46:38 <SmatZ> [wito]: this one http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=33054 23:46:58 *** Brianetta [~brian@client-82-20-28-97.brhm.adsl.virgin.net] has quit [Quit: TschÃŒÃ] 23:46:59 <[wito]> which isn't that much of a problem, if all cliffs point south. :P 23:47:20 <SmatZ> hehe 23:47:45 <SmatZ> people would notice that and request them pointing to north too 23:49:03 <[wito]> oh, I'm not saying that you shouldn't be able to build north-pointing cliffs 23:49:19 <[wito]> just that the map generator would avoid them (or cliffs alltogether) 23:54:17 <Prof_Frink> All good cliffs do point south. 23:54:33 <Prof_Frink> maximum sunshine, so you can climb all year 23:54:34 <SmatZ> hehe 23:55:20 <SmatZ> fail when you are on the southern hemisfere 23:55:43 <Prof_Frink> Yeah, but antipodeans are silly anyway. 23:56:22 <SmatZ> :-p