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Follow instructions. 00:39:46 <niblet> ty :) 00:43:27 *** KenjiE20|LT [~Kenji@host86-171-244-43.range86-171.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 00:43:55 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.17.245.147] has quit [Quit: Quit] 00:48:38 *** kkb1101 [~kkb110@c-68-82-181-52.hsd1.de.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 00:52:37 * DaleStan thinks you will find that my answer was not nearly as helpful as you had hoped. NFO is not known for being readily comprehensible. 00:52:49 <niblet> ^^ 00:53:09 <Sacro> DaleStan: not helpful, but accurate 00:53:28 <niblet> well it was what I was looking for 00:53:39 <niblet> at least I know what Im up against now :o 00:53:53 <niblet> wether or not to take it on is yet to be decided.. 00:54:28 <niblet> all I want to do is add a bit more info in the town window 00:54:56 *** kkb110 [~kkb110@c-68-82-181-52.hsd1.de.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:59:30 *** Zorn [~zorn@e177224033.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 01:04:34 <niblet> so who's working on the NFO-editor and when is it expected to be ready? :p 01:06:28 <niblet> or tell me is this possible: I want to for instance add "goods last month" to the city window.. would that even be possible to do? 01:07:10 *** Zorni [~zorn@e177236072.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:29:14 <niblet> maybe? :p 01:40:53 *** DephNet[Paul] [~paul@host86-152-54-209.range86-152.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Read error: Connection timed out] 01:41:13 <Rubidium> noone, when it's done if ever, maybe if you extend the specs and implement that extension, yes 01:41:20 *** DephNet[Paul] [~paul@host86-152-54-209.range86-152.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 01:42:18 <niblet> I was only joking about the nfo-editor :p 01:42:42 <niblet> so it could be done.. thats interesting. maybe I'll ask around on the forums later 01:56:25 *** paul_ [~paul@host86-131-62-164.range86-131.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 01:57:53 *** paul__ [~paul@host86-140-69-225.range86-140.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 02:03:29 *** DephNet[Paul] [~paul@host86-152-54-209.range86-152.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:04:36 *** paul_ [~paul@host86-131-62-164.range86-131.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:34:19 *** Chruker [~no@0x5da34ce4.vjnqu1.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:38:43 *** niblet [potatoe@216-135-35.oke1-bras10.adsl.tele2.no] has quit [] 02:50:41 *** stuffcor1se [~rick@121.98.136.241] has joined #openttd 02:51:04 *** stuffcorpse [~rick@121.98.136.241] has quit [Quit: leaving] 03:08:59 *** TinoDidriksen [~tino@port432.ds1-od.adsl.cybercity.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:12:32 *** TinoDidriksen [~tino@port432.ds1-od.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 03:13:31 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@ip-105.imafexbb.sk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:18:03 *** KenjiE20|LT [~Kenji@host86-171-244-43.range86-171.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:29:24 <SirSquidness> what is the first year in openttd in which you can build vehicles? 03:29:28 * SirSquidness wants to start from teh very start 03:29:43 <SirSquidness> year 1 wont even let me build depots 03:29:48 <SirSquidness> but they somehow have paved roads :p 03:30:04 <SirSquidness> and early 1900's architecture 03:37:46 *** paul__ [~paul@host86-140-69-225.range86-140.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:38:06 *** DephNet[Paul] [~paul@host86-140-69-225.range86-140.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 03:38:45 *** TinoDidriksen [~tino@port432.ds1-od.adsl.cybercity.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:42:54 *** TinoDidriksen [~tino@port432.ds1-od.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 04:05:10 *** Lakie [~Lakie@91.84.251.149] has quit [Quit: Sleep.] 05:07:12 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B83ED7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:09:13 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B81AD1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 05:09:16 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 05:44:40 *** Singaporekid [~notme@cm98.psi140.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #openttd 06:01:55 *** andythenorth_ [~andy@87.115.161.138] has joined #openttd 06:08:48 *** Pikka [~user@softbank220019198071.bbtec.net] has joined #openttd 06:26:31 *** Markk [~markk@rikskriminalen.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:32:17 *** [com]buster_ [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:33:02 *** TomicBomb is now known as TomicAway 06:36:01 *** Markk [~markk@rikskriminalen.com] has joined #openttd 06:39:13 *** [com]buster_ [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 06:50:43 *** Pikka [~user@softbank220019198071.bbtec.net] has left #openttd [] 07:00:42 *** MizardX [~MizardX@81-224-42-23-no80.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #openttd 07:13:10 *** andythenorth__ [~andy@87.115.161.138] has joined #openttd 07:14:08 *** Muxy [~benoit@smtp.bdelalande.net] has joined #openttd 07:14:57 *** maristo [~maristo@host217-114-156-151.pppoe.mark-itt.net] has joined #openttd 07:15:56 *** andythenorth_ [~andy@87.115.161.138] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:22:06 *** maristo [~maristo@host217-114-156-151.pppoe.mark-itt.net] has quit [Quit: Adia?.] 07:26:26 *** MizardX [~MizardX@81-224-42-23-no80.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:26:39 *** MizardX [~MizardX@81-224-42-23-no80.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #openttd 07:37:10 *** andythenorth__ [~andy@87.115.161.138] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:38:44 *** andythenorth_ [~andy@87.115.161.138] has joined #openttd 07:39:48 *** MizardX [~MizardX@81-224-42-23-no80.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [Quit: Proclamation of invalidity!] 07:44:03 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 07:44:03 *** [com]buster_ [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:44:06 *** [com]buster is now known as [com]buster_ 07:46:32 *** andythenorth_ [~andy@87.115.161.138] has quit [Quit: andythenorth_] 07:48:08 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [~johekr@p54B77DAE.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 07:54:21 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77DAE.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:01:08 *** Zahl [~Zahl@e179089107.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 08:09:50 *** Progman [~progman@hep-1.E-Technik.Uni-Dortmund.DE] has joined #openttd 08:14:50 *** andythenorth_ [~andy@78-86-194-127.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 08:25:37 <rasco> SirSquidness: depends which climate 08:25:50 <rasco> SirSquidness: the first train comes 1925 08:25:59 <SirSquidness> I figured out my own question 08:26:05 <SirSquidness> 1700 is when the first horse carriages appear 08:26:10 <rasco> you can find out by looking here http://wiki.openttd.org/Vehicles 08:26:21 <rasco> ah, that's egrvts 08:31:37 * SirSquidness nods 08:42:08 *** reldred [~reldred@115.131.203.31] has joined #openttd 09:06:26 *** Progman [~progman@hep-1.E-Technik.Uni-Dortmund.DE] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:25:48 *** Polygon [~Poly@x0581b.wh7.tu-dresden.de] has joined #openttd 09:26:15 <DephNet[Paul]> SirSquidness, i would say it depends on the grf's you have 09:29:50 *** tux_mark_5 [~kvirc@lan-84-240-29-163.vln.skynet.lt] has joined #openttd 09:30:05 *** Azrael- [~azraeluk@cpc4-papw2-0-0-cust778.cmbg.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 09:39:14 <SirSquidness> DephNet[Paul]: true. only using vanilla though 09:39:42 <DephNet[Paul]> is there horse drawn carrages? didnt know that 09:41:06 <petern> yeah 09:41:08 <petern> you're not 09:42:15 *** andythenorth_ [~andy@78-86-194-127.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Quit: andythenorth_] 09:45:15 *** TomicAway [~romain@sta21-3-82-244-158-94.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:53:10 *** Progman [~progman@hep-1.E-Technik.Uni-Dortmund.DE] has joined #openttd 10:00:32 *** TheMask96 [martijn@greed.vhost.ne2000.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:03:48 <petern> now, will that upset stevenh? 10:06:10 *** Eddi|zuHause2 is now known as Eddi|zuHause 10:08:37 *** TheMask96 [martijn@greed.vhost.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 10:09:42 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77DAE.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:09:58 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77DAE.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 10:10:30 *** DaleStan_ [~Dale@c-98-223-48-35.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 10:10:31 *** DaleStan is now known as Guest586 10:10:31 *** DaleStan_ is now known as DaleStan 10:16:48 *** Guest586 [~Dale@c-98-223-48-35.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:47:20 *** Singaporekid [~notme@cm98.psi140.maxonline.com.sg] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:52:49 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.2.73.174] has joined #openttd 11:07:43 *** Singaporekid [~notme@cm98.psi140.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #openttd 11:24:34 *** dragonhorseboy [~zerovnc@modemcable160.111-57-74.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #openttd 11:25:29 <dragonhorseboy> any of you know whats going on when typing in server_ip in console gets you ''server_bind_ip' is an unknown setting.' instead? 11:27:32 <Noldo> you are typing wrong things 11:28:17 <Rubidium> more like some aliases that were forgotten to be removed 11:28:23 <dragonhorseboy> noldo..? it used to show the ip in earlier versions or did they change its meaning already 11:29:00 <petern> ALREADY 11:30:52 <petern> it used to show the ip you'd specified. now it doesn't. 11:31:48 <dragonhorseboy> rubidium thanks 11:33:01 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r16773 /trunk/src/console_cmds.cpp: -Fix (r16014): forgot to remove obsoleted aliases 11:33:39 <dragonhorseboy> well my server's up and showing in openttd.org/servers so i guess thats all I needed :p 11:39:44 <petern> Current value for 'server_bind_ip' is: '0.0.0.0' 11:39:56 <petern> ^ i don't think it did what you thought 11:45:32 <dragonhorseboy> same error message when i typed server_bind_ip in .. maybe its just something that happened between 0.7.x and IS builds 11:45:44 <petern> YOU ARE VERY SLOW 11:45:55 <petern> you could try reading what Rubidium said 11:46:01 <petern> or wrote 11:46:14 <dragonhorseboy> or YOURS 11:59:44 *** maristo [~maristo@host217-114-156-151.pppoe.mark-itt.net] has joined #openttd 12:05:30 *** Progman [~progman@hep-1.E-Technik.Uni-Dortmund.DE] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:09:24 <dihedral> mv ./forum-users #openttd !! 12:19:09 *** helb_ [~helb@84.244.90.60] has joined #openttd 12:20:34 <Eddi|zuHause> petern: have you ever considered letting the grf specify catenary and pylon positions via newgrf callback, and a varaction2 being able to check the 4 adjacent tiles? 12:20:50 *** helb [~helb@84.244.90.60] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:22:17 <Eddi|zuHause> basically moving the stuff that elrail.cpp currently does into the grf 12:22:51 <TrueBrain> petern: remember that old problem when visiting http://www.openttd.org and http://bananas.openttd.org after eachother? 12:22:54 <TrueBrain> does that problem still exist? 12:23:48 <Belugas> hello 12:24:13 <TrueBrain> howdie Belugas 12:24:34 <dragonhorseboy> truebrain...? I don't see any 12:25:08 <TrueBrain> dragonhorseboy: and that is why you are not called petern I guess 12:25:25 <dragonhorseboy> heh 12:25:50 <dragonhorseboy> well I've been using both sites on occassion for a few months 12:27:15 <dragonhorseboy> hey belugas 12:29:29 <Belugas> howdie, hello coucou and good day! 12:29:46 <dragonhorseboy> coucou? 12:29:51 <dragonhorseboy> just what is that? :P 12:31:39 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: truebrain * r16774 /extra/website/ (30 files in 6 dirs): [Website] -Remove: remove the long gone website 12:32:46 *** reldred [~reldred@115.131.203.31] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:33:23 *** andythenorth_ [~andy@78-86-194-127.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 12:34:07 <dragonhorseboy> hey andy 12:35:22 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: truebrain * r16775 /extra/website/ (109 files in 14 dirs): [Website] -Add: new website on which openttd.org is running for a while now. It is Django (Python) based 12:39:02 <Eddi|zuHause> dragonhorseboy: "coucou" is the sound that the bird that is named after the sound makes 12:41:26 *** DaleStan [~Dale@c-98-223-48-35.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:42:36 *** oskari89 [oskari89@88.193.124.243] has joined #openttd 12:43:27 <Prof_Frink> Cuckoo? 12:44:45 <Eddi|zuHause> Prof_Frink: maybe he is speaking french ;) 12:45:53 <Prof_Frink> | English only :D 12:46:09 <dragonhorseboy> merci prof_frink???? 12:46:10 <Eddi|zuHause> that does not apply to quotes 12:46:10 <dragonhorseboy> :P 12:46:21 * TrueBrain makes a dance .. finally the website in SVN :) 12:46:28 <Eddi|zuHause> the bird says "Kuckuck" in german 12:46:43 <dragonhorseboy> cook a dee doo 12:46:43 <TrueBrain> just 2000 lines .. WT3 is bigger :p 12:47:00 <Eddi|zuHause> which may or may not be related to the word "kucken" (or "gucken") for "looking" 12:47:02 <dragonhorseboy> :) 12:48:01 *** Exl [~myself@cp1224652-a.roemd1.lb.home.nl] has joined #openttd 12:50:49 <petern> TrueBrain, seems to be working for me at the moment 12:50:58 <TrueBrain> petern: good, tnx! 12:51:38 <petern> Eddi|zuHause, no, i haven't 13:03:56 *** andythenorth_ [~andy@78-86-194-127.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Quit: andythenorth_] 13:05:38 *** andythenorth_ [~andy@78-86-194-127.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 13:05:38 *** [com]buster_ [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:05:53 *** [com]buster_ [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 13:10:00 *** dragonhorseboy [~zerovnc@modemcable160.111-57-74.mc.videotron.ca] has left #openttd [] 13:22:11 <Eddi|zuHause> yay... i just found money... 13:22:18 <dihedral> \o/ 13:22:31 <Eddi|zuHause> about 300 forint, 10 kuna and 70 schilling... 13:23:13 <Rubidium> value after exchanging... negative 13:23:30 <Eddi|zuHause> yeah, the bank fee probably exceeds the value :p 13:23:53 <Eddi|zuHause> there are some more schilling in coins 13:24:43 <Eddi|zuHause> but banks are unlikely to exchange coins, especially of long obsolete currencies 13:25:20 <Eddi|zuHause> so i'd probably have to go to austria, if i could get it exchanged at all... 13:25:44 *** andythenorth_ [~andy@78-86-194-127.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Quit: andythenorth_] 13:27:52 <Eddi|zuHause> so these are 119,70 Schilling 13:32:48 *** Splex [~splex@c-24-245-55-70.hsd1.wi.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:33:20 <Eddi|zuHause> value something about 8 euro... 13:35:16 <Eddi|zuHause> you know what... i just put it back, and i'll find it in another 10 years with the same "yay, i found money" 13:35:25 <TrueBrain> lol 13:35:33 <TrueBrain> crazy person :p 13:36:46 <Eddi|zuHause> hey... every bank would laugh at me if i showed up with 10 euro worth of foreign currency :p 13:37:05 <TrueBrain> I even laugh at you :p 13:37:52 <Eddi|zuHause> yeah, but i don't care about that :p 13:38:06 <TrueBrain> you should 13:38:33 <Eddi|zuHause> every response that i could give now would get me kicked :p 13:38:51 <SirSquidness> except that one ^ 13:39:03 <SirSquidness> that response doesn't appear to have bought upon it's creator a kicking. 13:39:07 * SirSquidness hides 13:39:19 <TrueBrain> @kick SirSquidness but yours on the other hand ..... 13:39:19 *** SirSquidness was kicked from #openttd by DorpsGek [but yours on the other hand .....] 13:39:23 <TrueBrain> that was too easy 13:39:29 *** SirSquidness [~sirsquidn@120.222.dsl.mel.iprimus.net.au] has joined #openttd 13:39:31 <SirSquidness> <3 13:40:39 <Eddi|zuHause> yes, SirSquidness < 3 13:40:57 <Eddi|zuHause> (years in mental age) 13:43:10 <TrueBrain> in theory, the website should now be ready to be translated to various of languages 13:43:16 <TrueBrain> no idea if it is true :p 13:44:57 <SirSquidness> blast, Eddi|zuHause is on to me >.> 13:48:42 *** andythenorth_ [~andy@78-86-194-127.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 13:50:07 *** andythenorth_ [~andy@78-86-194-127.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has quit [] 13:53:25 <Belugas> youhou... joy and pleasure.... please, change this app as a service. thanks. Can i expect it by the end of the day? 13:53:31 <Belugas> AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGHHHH! 13:53:42 <Eddi|zuHause> hehe ;) 13:54:06 <Rubidium> Belugas: ofcourse he can expect it by the end of the day 13:54:36 <Eddi|zuHause> Belugas: are there actually any cuckoos on the american continent? 13:54:38 <Rubidium> though it won't become reality, but that's due to his wrong expectations 13:57:04 <Belugas> hehehe 13:57:16 <Belugas> Eddi|zuHause, let say that i' 13:57:23 <Belugas> ll become one pretty soon... 13:57:44 <Eddi|zuHause> laying your eggs in another bird's nest? 13:58:04 <Belugas> Rubidium, that is my fault... i always do miracles (kinda) so they expect i keep on doing it as "normality" 14:02:06 <TrueBrain> Belugas: that is indeed your fault .. something you should have learnt long ago :p 14:03:55 <Belugas> yeah... 14:04:13 <Belugas> so... i guess it's time forv a little reality check for them 14:04:15 <Eddi|zuHause> you haven't listened to mr scott's lesson: always give a much bigger estimate 14:04:19 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@89.246.209.125] has joined #openttd 14:08:59 *** fonsinchen [~alve@BAE8bc6.bae.pppool.de] has joined #openttd 14:10:37 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@88.130.173.205] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:10:50 *** Singaporekid [~notme@cm98.psi140.maxonline.com.sg] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:12:29 <Belugas> they know how to go around that, Eddi|zuHause. "Give me exact estimate on paper with the hours" 14:12:42 <Belugas> Kirk never asked that from Scottie ;P 14:13:13 <Eddi|zuHause> "it takes four weeks" - "i give you four hours" - "ok, i'll do it in two" 14:13:37 <Rubidium> Eddi|zuHause: like estimate * pi^2, right? 14:13:55 *** [com]buster_ [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:14:14 <Eddi|zuHause> we say "pi mal daumen" (pi times thumb) when we do estimates ;) 14:15:00 <Rubidium> them I've got 'pi daum' ;) 14:20:03 <Belugas> mmh... 14:20:13 <Belugas> pee syndrom 14:25:10 <petern> hmm, our mixer seems wrong 14:25:25 <petern> or 14:25:47 <petern> oh no, it's scaled, never mind :) 14:31:05 *** TinoDidriksen [~tino@port432.ds1-od.adsl.cybercity.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:31:17 *** TinoDidriksen [~tino@port432.ds1-od.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 14:32:42 *** Dred_furst [~Dred@user-5445c0fd.lns3-c13.telh.dsl.pol.co.uk] has joined #openttd 14:36:17 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1F486.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 14:36:22 *** fonsinchen [~alve@BAE8bc6.bae.pppool.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:40:39 *** Chruker [~no@0x5da34ce4.vjnqu1.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 14:41:40 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: truebrain * r16776 /extra/website/general/utils/binaries.py: [Website] -Fix: sort the download files correctly (Python hashes don't carry insert sort, but are sorted on their hash value (which is a black box)) 14:43:22 <Chruker> whut, no poem with that commit? 14:44:17 <petern> that noai commit... 14:44:19 <petern> was 14:44:22 <petern> a LONG time ago 14:44:32 <Eddi|zuHause> and a special huge commit 14:44:53 <TrueBrain> who would have guessed it would leave such impression :p 14:45:02 <Eddi|zuHause> only to one person :p 14:45:09 <TrueBrain> I count 3 by my math 14:46:08 <Eddi|zuHause> i only remember it because someone mentioned it a few days ago 14:46:16 <Chruker> << 14:46:21 <TrueBrain> even I don't remember what you are talking about :p 14:47:16 *** andythenorth_ [~andy@78-86-194-127.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 14:49:46 *** andythenorth_ [~andy@78-86-194-127.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has quit [] 14:53:21 <Eddi|zuHause> he only thinks the poem is special because he hasn't seen the "hidden features" commits yet ;) 15:05:09 <welshdragon> can you only have 1 dock per city? 15:05:36 <welshdragon> oh, wait, not per city 15:05:40 <welshdragon> per station :P 15:13:40 *** Mark [~Mark@5ED06D96.cable.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 15:16:35 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@ip-105.imafexbb.sk] has joined #openttd 15:21:11 <Belugas> shit... 15:21:19 <Belugas> REQ is not the same interop 15:21:32 <Belugas> 25 minutes wasted 15:22:38 <petern> :s 15:27:31 *** maristo [~maristo@host217-114-156-151.pppoe.mark-itt.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:32:58 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590c3c60.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #openttd 15:37:16 *** nfc [nfc@cable-hvk-fe7ede00-156.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [Quit: leaving] 15:37:21 *** nfc [nfc@cable-hvk-fe7ede00-156.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #openttd 16:09:39 <frosch123> dihedral: are you volunteering to become a European translator? 16:09:54 <dihedral> yeah - i noticed that too :-D 16:09:59 <dihedral> fuck :-D 16:14:23 <petern> ? 16:14:46 <frosch123> take a look at his signature 16:15:33 *** nicfer [~Usuario@168.226.105.4] has joined #openttd 16:15:40 <petern> dihedral, write me a cheque and sign it, eh? 16:15:58 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@94-224-31-113.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 16:16:00 <dihedral> why the hell would i do that petern? 16:16:16 <petern> so i can see your signature 16:16:53 <dihedral> ... 16:18:27 <Belugas> and we're good at dealing with signatures.. 16:36:47 <Eddi|zuHause> my freezing problem could be related to a broken usb port... 16:37:23 *** fonsinchen [~alve@BAE8bc6.bae.pppool.de] has joined #openttd 16:39:59 *** wolfy [~Wolfenste@dhcp-077-251-185-139.chello.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:54:44 *** andythenorth_ [~andy@78-86-194-127.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 16:57:46 *** andythenorth_ [~andy@78-86-194-127.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has quit [] 16:59:38 *** andythenorth_ [~andy@78-86-194-127.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 17:00:33 *** andythenorth_ [~andy@78-86-194-127.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has quit [] 17:01:45 *** DaleStan [~Dale@c-98-223-48-35.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 17:09:18 *** NeO_Anderson [~Founder@194.50.80.117] has joined #openttd 17:09:54 <NeO_Anderson> hello dudes, how can I get "Goals" onto the server? so that for example, if players reach 100million they win? and game restarts or something? 17:10:47 <Eddi|zuHause> must be done with a patch... i have seen servers that do that, but never have seen an actual patch for it 17:10:51 <Belugas> you have to have a server that has been modified for that purpose 17:12:48 <NeO_Anderson> hmm 17:12:55 <NeO_Anderson> have you heard of this python bot? 17:13:06 <TrueBrain> it shoots people 17:13:07 <TrueBrain> very annoying 17:13:12 <NeO_Anderson> its supposidly a bot for openttd 17:13:15 <planetmaker> straight from the future. 17:13:16 <Eddi|zuHause> no, he means babyottd ;) 17:13:17 <Belugas> and it bites too... 17:13:18 <NeO_Anderson> but im unsure as to what its purpose is.... 17:13:32 <Belugas> ennoy people... 17:13:34 <NeO_Anderson> openttd-python its called 17:13:41 <NeO_Anderson> annoy people? 17:13:43 <NeO_Anderson> how? 17:13:45 <planetmaker> NeO_Anderson, ask yorick about it 17:13:47 <NeO_Anderson> what does it do? lol 17:13:53 <Belugas> Hannoy tours 17:13:54 <TrueBrain> why you ask us? 17:14:16 <planetmaker> afaik it died 17:14:22 <TrueBrain> poor thing 17:14:25 <Belugas> a shame... hihihihihih 17:14:29 <Eddi|zuHause> you want to tour to Hanoi? 17:14:31 <planetmaker> yes.... :P 17:14:34 <NeO_Anderson> because I figured if anyones gonner know anything about it, would be someone in the #openttd lobby 17:14:39 <planetmaker> I want the towers of Hanoi 17:14:43 *** TheMask96 [martijn@greed.vhost.ne2000.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:14:59 <TrueBrain> if it doesn't have a website, it is not worth using 17:15:16 <NeO_Anderson> it semi-does lol 17:15:29 <NeO_Anderson> am I allowed to post links? 17:15:31 <Eddi|zuHause> some monks are doing the towers of hanoi with 64 pieces... it is said when they are done, the world is going to end 17:15:32 <TrueBrain> and if it has a website, the question is silly 17:15:47 <NeO_Anderson> it semi-has a website 17:15:51 <TrueBrain> Eddi|zuHause: if those 64 pieces are intact? 17:16:02 <NeO_Anderson> it's not a full blown "I offer this" "Heres how you install it" site... 17:16:14 <TrueBrain> so not worth it :) 17:16:14 <Eddi|zuHause> TrueBrain: what? 17:16:14 <NeO_Anderson> all it does is offer the code in individual files 17:16:17 <NeO_Anderson> and thats well.... it.. 17:16:18 <NeO_Anderson> lol 17:16:26 <TrueBrain> [19:15] <Eddi|zuHause> some monks are doing the towers of hanoi with 64 pieces... it is said when they are done, the world is going to end 17:16:38 <petern> haha, low latency openttd audio :D 17:16:40 <TrueBrain> I wonder if those 64 pieces should remain intact when they reach the destination 17:17:05 <Eddi|zuHause> i still don't understand what you are trying to say 17:17:10 <planetmaker> NeO_Anderson, sure you may post links. If on-topic ;) 17:17:12 <TrueBrain> monks 17:17:13 <TrueBrain> 64 pieces 17:17:29 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1F486.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:17:34 *** Nite_Owl [~Nite_Owl@c-76-109-50-97.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 17:17:39 <TrueBrain> pieces need to be in one piece 17:17:41 <TrueBrain> when finished? 17:17:57 <TrueBrain> my english bad today 17:18:01 <TrueBrain> sorry that about 17:18:17 *** wolfy [~Wolfenste@dhcp-077-250-089-252.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 17:18:18 <Nite_Owl> Hello all 17:18:20 <petern> (also, mixed at 96kHz) 17:18:24 <petern> (floating point) 17:18:39 <planetmaker> hello early Owl ;) 17:18:53 *** wolfy is now known as Wolfensteijn 17:19:49 <Nite_Owl> Hello planetmaker 17:20:23 *** TheMask96 [martijn@greed.vhost.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 17:24:03 <TrueBrain> bah, the package I ordered in Germany 3 days ago is still not on transport :'( 17:25:24 <frosch123> your ordered online? then - of course - your order first needs checking by the ministry of interior 17:25:47 <planetmaker> frosch123, even worse. _He_ has to be checked by them. 17:26:15 <planetmaker> If it's fertilizer he might be a terrorist in disguise :P 17:26:39 <TrueBrain> it is a surround system, I dunno if you can do any terrorist acts with that :p 17:26:46 <TrueBrain> maybe if you make the subwoofer go below 20Hz 17:26:52 <TrueBrain> you can kill a few people with that I guess ... 17:27:20 <planetmaker> definitely. The horns(?) of Jericho 17:27:33 <planetmaker> It's a siege weapon, I believe 17:29:10 <frosch123> maybe, if you put it in the basement of a skyscraper, you can damage the foundation and make it collapse 17:29:26 <TrueBrain> THAT is what they did with the WTC ... 17:29:57 *** andythenorth_ [~andy@78-86-194-127.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 17:30:05 <frosch123> yeah, they played breakbeat in the basement for 10 years 17:30:15 <TrueBrain> # I don't want to break these chains 17:30:18 *** andythenorth_ [~andy@78-86-194-127.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has quit [] 17:30:39 <TrueBrain> @mode +b ~andy@78-86-194-127.zone2.bethere.co.uk 17:30:42 *** mode/#openttd [+b *!~andy@78-86-194-127.zone2.bethere.co.uk] by DorpsGek 17:30:48 <TrueBrain> too many hit and runs over the last day .... 17:31:49 <Eddi|zuHause> planetmaker: they could as well been some kind of cannon... 17:31:58 * SpComb listens to some breakbeat 17:32:04 <Eddi|zuHause> even if it was 7000 years ago... 17:32:16 <TrueBrain> the earth only exists for 6000 years 17:32:29 <TrueBrain> didn't you pay attention in your bible class? 17:32:29 <Rubidium> not 7 days? 17:32:34 <Belugas> huu??? 17:32:46 <TrueBrain> I remember the week before last, so no, not 7 days 17:32:48 <Eddi|zuHause> well, "years" in the bible often refer to "moon-years" (i.e. months) 17:32:58 <TrueBrain> Eddi|zuHause: NO! FALSE! 17:33:04 <TrueBrain> the earth exists for no more than 6000 years! 17:33:09 <TrueBrain> AND I DO NOT WANT TO ARGUE ABOUT IT 17:33:24 <TrueBrain> (sorry, it always makes me laugh, the sillyness of people with their idea of time) 17:33:30 <petern> hm, i don't understand MAX_VOLUME :s 17:33:35 <Rubidium> TrueBrain: no, your knowledge of the last few days has been planted by GOD 17:33:43 <TrueBrain> Rubidium: ah, of course, my mistake 17:33:48 <TrueBrain> then why would I exist more than 1 minute? 17:33:50 <TrueBrain> or second? 17:33:51 <TrueBrain> or nanosecond? 17:34:10 <TrueBrain> in fact, did I exist at all, a few nanoseconds ago? 17:34:13 <frosch123> who cares since when the earth exists? ttd exists only for 15 years 17:34:16 <TrueBrain> and will I believe alive in the few to come? 17:34:25 <TrueBrain> frosch123: haha! Very good point :) 17:34:32 <petern> -16384 to 16384 is... 15 bit audio? 17:34:33 <TrueBrain> believe = be 17:34:34 <TrueBrain> lol 17:34:40 <petern> (nearly) 17:34:53 <Eddi|zuHause> and also... the creationist "seven days" were seven god-days... how dare they assume that one god-day equals one man-day? 17:34:58 <TrueBrain> -16384 to 16384? That doesn't make sense in any bit-value 17:35:09 <TrueBrain> Eddi|zuHause: I couldn't agree more :) 17:35:11 <Eddi|zuHause> for all we know, god went to rest on the seventh day 17:35:14 <petern> yeah, i know, 15 bit + 1; p 17:35:20 <Eddi|zuHause> who said that day is already over for him? 17:35:42 <TrueBrain> Eddi|zuHause: and in fact .. who cares? Does it change anything? 17:35:57 <petern> but generally 17:36:07 <petern> if you're doing 16 bit audio, you want -32768 to 32767, no? 17:36:17 <TrueBrain> why is Evolution Theory incompatible with The Bible? 17:36:26 <TrueBrain> petern: sane people 17:36:29 <petern> (or, i supposes -32767, just to make it even) 17:36:36 <petern> TrueBrain, openttd is not sane then :s 17:37:06 <Eddi|zuHause> TrueBrain: it is not... it is incompatible with some interpretation of the seventh (mis-)translation of the bible 17:37:35 <TrueBrain> petern: really? :p 17:37:40 *** Brianetta [~brian@client-86-0-123-9.nrth.adsl.virgin.net] has joined #openttd 17:37:43 <Eddi|zuHause> from gods point of view, the whole evolution could have been one day 17:40:19 <TrueBrain> and again .. who cares :) Not that it changes anything .... 17:40:20 <TrueBrain> but okay :) 17:44:24 <Belugas> funny how people are quick to decide what God(s) think... or did 17:44:51 <TrueBrain> Belugas: what always scares me the most is how quick people truly believe that what they think is what God thinks ... 17:44:58 <TrueBrain> what an argogants :( 17:45:02 <TrueBrain> arrogants 17:45:03 <TrueBrain> arogants 17:45:05 <TrueBrain> what ever 17:45:06 <TrueBrain> stupid word 17:45:18 <Belugas> freaks 17:45:21 <Belugas> easier ;) 17:46:18 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: translators * r16777 /trunk/src/lang/ (8 files in 2 dirs): (log message trimmed) 17:46:18 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: -Update from WebTranslator v3.0: 17:46:18 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: catalan - 65 changes by arnaullv 17:46:18 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: simplified_chinese - 4 changes by ww9980 17:46:18 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: finnish - 2 changes by jpx_ 17:46:20 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: german - 65 changes by Roujin 17:46:20 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: icelandic - 4 changes by baldur 17:46:45 * TrueBrain hugs WT3 17:46:48 <TrueBrain> you good boy 17:47:19 <Belugas> mmh... which reminds me i still don't remember my wt3 password... 17:47:40 <TrueBrain> not so smart of you 17:47:55 <Ammler> hehe, you aren't the first, who forgot that ;-) 17:48:15 <TrueBrain> Ammler: no, you shared your password 17:48:17 <TrueBrain> and someone changed it 17:48:21 <Ammler> no 17:48:21 <TrueBrain> that is a completely different story 17:48:23 <TrueBrain> and much more stupid 17:48:44 <Ammler> well, sharing yes, but nobody changed it. 17:48:47 <Belugas> my password was a logical one, that i remember 17:48:58 <TrueBrain> Ammler: sure, you all decided to forget it ... 17:48:58 <Belugas> must have wrote it in a hurry, as always... 17:49:26 <TrueBrain> Belugas: try the name of your kid 17:49:40 <Belugas> mephisto? 17:49:44 <Belugas> yeh..good idea 17:50:57 *** goodger_ [~ben@host217-44-87-106.range217-44.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:51:05 <Belugas> naaaaa.... 17:51:19 <frosch123> your wife, your guitar, your amplifier, your boss? 17:51:27 <TrueBrain> 'openttd' 17:51:29 <TrueBrain> 'wt3rules' 17:51:32 <TrueBrain> 'Ilovetruebrain' 17:51:50 <Belugas> "jamwithpetern" 17:52:04 <Sacro> "imissbjarni" 17:52:12 <Eddi|zuHause> the beauty of trying to have a different password on 300 different sites ;)) 17:52:23 * Sacro misses Bjarni :( 17:52:27 <Sacro> @seen Bjarni 17:52:27 <DorpsGek> Sacro: Bjarni was last seen in #openttd 1 week, 5 days, 18 hours, 16 minutes, and 47 seconds ago: <Bjarni> eventually 17:52:34 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 17:52:42 <TrueBrain> Sacro: that is fixable 17:52:45 <frosch123> haaai alberth 17:52:47 <TrueBrain> This reminds me .... 17:52:51 <Alberth> haai 17:52:52 <Eddi|zuHause> the master of famous-last words :) 17:53:05 * Sacro hugs Eddi|zuHause \ 17:53:36 <Eddi|zuHause> o// 17:53:59 <frosch123> @seen celestar 17:53:59 <DorpsGek> frosch123: celestar was last seen in #openttd 11 weeks, 1 day, 9 hours, 55 minutes, and 23 seconds ago: <Celestar> morning 17:54:01 <frosch123> that one? 17:54:07 <Eddi|zuHause> (that is the me-trying-to-evade-hugs-smilie) 17:55:18 <Belugas> TrueBrain, useless. when you'll have ther time (or an excess of boredom), can you zap my account? 17:55:24 <Belugas> or give me my pw... 17:55:36 <TrueBrain> Belugas: that is kind of the problem ... I can't really do much for you :p 17:55:43 <TrueBrain> besides putting another passwords has over it ... :p 17:56:04 *** Dred_furst [~Dred@user-5445c0fd.lns3-c13.telh.dsl.pol.co.uk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:57:19 <TrueBrain> changed password of my account, copied the sha1 hash, put that in your account, changed my password back 17:57:22 <TrueBrain> I guess that should work :p 17:59:29 <Belugas> does, does 17:59:36 <Belugas> thanks thanks 17:59:37 <frosch123> what is it? "iwillneveragainforgetmypassword" ? 18:00:50 <petern> jam? 18:01:14 <TrueBrain> frosch123stinkswhenyouarewalkingtooclosetohim 18:01:16 <TrueBrain> but it was too long 18:01:57 <frosch123> :'( 18:01:59 <petern> right, 16384*128 for scaling works 18:02:06 <petern> instead of 65536*256, which is blatantly wrong 18:03:57 *** Yexo [~Yexo@ip51cca4b5.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl] has joined #openttd 18:05:51 <petern> hmm, maybe not :p 18:45:42 *** Belugas [~belugas@216.191.111.238] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 18:46:28 <TrueBrain> poor Belugas 18:46:36 <TrueBrain> Canada is cut off from the Internet now I guess 18:49:30 <Alberth> or we are 18:49:44 <TrueBrain> point of reference 18:49:45 <TrueBrain> fair enough 18:52:08 *** Belugas [~belugas@216.191.111.238] has joined #openttd 18:52:11 *** mode/#openttd [+o Belugas] by ChanServ 18:52:17 <TrueBrain> welcome back Belugas :) 18:52:22 <TrueBrain> we ALMOST missed you :p 18:52:50 <frosch123> be careful, he might got replaced by aliens 18:52:59 <TrueBrain> that is a chance we have to take :p 18:53:16 <Belugas> the fairie electricy smashed me :S 18:53:16 <Nite_Owl> a Belugas pod 18:53:33 <TrueBrain> don't put knifes in a socket ... 18:53:37 <TrueBrain> it can never be a good thing ... 18:54:14 <Belugas> i was just reading some code! 18:54:22 <TrueBrain> SURE! 18:54:25 <TrueBrain> I don't believe you 18:54:32 <TrueBrain> proof me wrong! 18:56:46 <Belugas> i found out that the reason the customer had a bug is that he put the sku of a non listed marker in the field reserved for special orders, which he does not use 18:56:58 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@94-224-31-113.access.telenet.be] has quit [Quit: oO] 18:57:06 <Belugas> a feature I added 6 releases after the one he received 18:57:31 <Belugas> feature is: do not allow direct nonlisted prod scanning in entry bar 18:57:45 <TrueBrain> I have read a lot of greek in my life, but this is really greek to me 18:58:15 <Belugas> you're not a POS guy, and you're not in my shoes ;) 18:58:40 <TrueBrain> but I am happy for you you found that problem ;) 18:59:34 <frosch123> a problem which he fixed six years ago? 18:59:54 <frosch123> that is no fun finding 19:00:46 <Belugas> well... contrary to OTTD, our rate of releases is quite high ;) 19:00:54 <Belugas> was about 9 months ago :) 19:02:02 *** Farden [~jk3farden@ram94-7-82-232-189-236.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 19:02:35 <TrueBrain> ghehe 19:02:37 <TrueBrain> poor Belugas 19:02:44 <TrueBrain> I just opened a candy, and the inner seal was broken 19:02:48 <TrueBrain> and it looked very ... 19:02:49 <TrueBrain> bah! 19:02:54 <TrueBrain> going to bring that back tomorrow :s 19:04:35 *** Yexo [~Yexo@ip51cca4b5.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:26:17 *** Polygon [~Poly@x0581b.wh7.tu-dresden.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:30:03 *** TinoDid [~tino@port432.ds1-od.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 19:31:46 *** Lakie [~Lakie@91.84.251.149] has joined #openttd 19:33:38 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1F486.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 19:36:21 *** TinoDidriksen [~tino@port432.ds1-od.adsl.cybercity.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:37:44 *** TinoDidriksen [~tino@port432.ds1-od.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 19:37:50 *** TomicBomb [~romain@sta21-3-82-244-158-94.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 19:41:36 <petern> lol 19:41:41 <petern> libsamplerate on highest quality 19:41:46 <petern> needs, er, caching really :p 19:42:21 <petern> nice lovely smooth output though 19:43:25 *** Polygon [~Poly@x0581b.wh7.tu-dresden.de] has joined #openttd 19:43:32 *** KritiK [~Maxim@95-25-100-249.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 19:44:09 *** TinoDid [~tino@port432.ds1-od.adsl.cybercity.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:53:03 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: alberth * r16778 /trunk/src/ (window.cpp window_gui.h): -Codechange: Split window initialization in a data part and a size/position part. 19:57:45 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: alberth * r16779 /trunk/src/window.cpp: -Fix: Take real smallest size of nested widgets into account for initial window position. 19:59:08 <Belugas> why is it that the song you want to hear, suddenly, is never on the collection you pop in??? 19:59:42 <TrueBrain> Belugas: Murphies law? 20:03:29 <petern> *cough* streaming mp3 20:08:15 *** TomicBomb [~romain@sta21-3-82-244-158-94.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:14:16 <nicfer> hmmm... most buses in newgrfs have max speeds up to 200kmh or more, but they never reach that point because of curves 20:14:18 <nicfer> funny 20:14:27 <petern> well 20:14:40 <petern> you try going round 90? bend at 200km/h 20:15:20 <Nite_Owl> what newgrfs are you looking at 20:15:28 <Eddi|zuHause> ever tried speeding through a cloverleaf? :p 20:15:43 <nicfer> well, it also forces you use strategies 20:16:39 <nicfer> build highways with the least amount of curves and send there the faster buses 20:16:58 <Nite_Owl> I have seen 75 MPH for long distance coaches but nothing as fast as 200 KPH 20:17:02 <nicfer> for interurban transport, send the slower, higher capacity ones 20:17:14 <Rubidium> Eddi|zuHause: not personnaly, but the result usually is the same... it makes the clover leaf, but massive damage due to using the guard rail or it doesn't make it and ends up ON the guard rail or it doesn't make it and ends up 'molded' around a tree or in a ditch 20:17:22 <Eddi|zuHause> speed limit for busses is 120km/h here 20:18:00 <nicfer> well, in game there's no 'reality', but I'm not going anywhere ahead 20:18:15 <nicfer> here max speed of buses is 90kmh 20:18:21 <nicfer> trucks 80 20:18:30 <petern> Nite_Owl, lv4 has fast buses 20:18:36 <nicfer> in highways and routes 20:19:01 <nicfer> in city, 60kmh for avenues and 40kmh for smaller roads 20:19:11 <Rubidium> Eddi|zuHause: there's one problem with that limit... a car with caravan may only do 100 (if 'approved') so when a bus is overtaking another bus you can't use the draft of them to economically make your trip through Germany 20:19:51 <nicfer> also, in highways the max speed for cars varies between 110 to 130kmh 20:20:01 * Eddi|zuHause thinks of clever remark about dutch person with caravan 20:20:13 <TrueBrain> I know a few 20:20:26 <nicfer> /stop_offtopic 20:20:33 <TrueBrain> when were we ontopic? 20:20:48 <Eddi|zuHause> the topic is what is actually being talked about 20:20:49 <Rubidium> going from 90 km/h to 110 km/h when releasing the throttle on a flat road just because a bus is overtaking another one 20:23:25 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: alberth * r16780 /trunk/src/ai/ai_gui.cpp: -Add [FS#3015]: Allow the AI Debug Window to become sticky. 20:23:37 *** andythenorth_ [~andy@87.115.161.138] has joined #openttd 20:23:44 <Eddi|zuHause> <TrueBrain> I know a few <-- it's a clich? for a reason ;) 20:24:06 <TrueBrain> @mode -b ~andy@78-86-194-127.zone2.bethere.co.uk 20:24:09 *** mode/#openttd [-b *!~andy@78-86-194-127.zone2.bethere.co.uk] by DorpsGek 20:24:09 <TrueBrain> Eddi|zuHause: really? :P 20:29:45 <Belugas> bye bye!!! 20:29:51 <TrueBrain> bye Belugas :) 20:29:51 <Rubidium> night Belugas 20:44:09 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #openttd [] 20:44:55 *** andythenorth_ [~andy@87.115.161.138] has quit [Quit: andythenorth_] 20:49:58 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590c3c60.pool.einsundeins.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:50:19 *** andythenorth_ [~andy@87.115.161.138] has joined #openttd 20:50:41 <Eddi|zuHause> why does Belugas' night always start way before any european's night in here? :p 20:51:44 <TrueBrain> because he is CRAZY 20:51:49 <TrueBrain> I AM TELLING YOU! CRAZY!! 20:52:12 <Noldo> almost midnight is night enough for me 20:52:14 <z-MaTRiX> hey 20:52:57 <Noldo> and I do consider myself european eventhough me were under heavy soviet influency until 1995 20:53:21 <petern> Eddi|zuHause, he had a wife & kid 20:53:37 <petern> Eddi|zuHause, therefore, after work is... not his own time 20:53:48 <petern> had? 20:53:51 <petern> obviously *has* 21:00:37 *** Ridayah [~ridayah@173-19-228-175.client.mchsi.com] has quit [Quit: The Rise and Fall of the Heavens themselves is dependant upon Humanity's belief and disbelief.] 21:01:22 *** Ridayah [~ridayah@173-19-228-175.client.mchsi.com] has joined #openttd 21:01:40 *** FR^2 [~frquadrat@frquadrat.de] has joined #openttd 21:07:59 *** Azrael- [~azraeluk@cpc4-papw2-0-0-cust778.cmbg.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:10:12 *** Progman_ [~progman@p57A1BA6A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 21:12:07 *** Muxy [~benoit@smtp.bdelalande.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:12:51 *** andythenorth_ [~andy@87.115.161.138] has quit [Quit: andythenorth_] 21:14:43 *** Progman_ [~progman@p57A1BA6A.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 21:14:53 *** Progman_ [~progman@p57A1BA6A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 21:15:39 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1F486.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:15:52 *** Progman_ is now known as Progman 21:21:28 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.202.11] has quit [Quit: ecke] 21:21:46 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.202.11] has joined #openttd 21:24:37 *** fonsinchen [~alve@BAE8bc6.bae.pppool.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:45:54 *** colde_ [colde@server.lokedupont.info] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:47:04 *** FR^2 [~frquadrat@frquadrat.de] has quit [Quit: Der Worte sind genug gewechselt, lasst mich auch endlich Taten sehn!] 21:53:09 *** colde [colde@server.lokedupont.info] has joined #openttd 21:53:53 <Ammler> opengfx complete? http://img.ammler.ch/?v=opengfxcom.png 21:54:18 <Rubidium> never! :) 21:55:59 <Ammler> :-D 21:56:13 <TrueBrain> Ammler: only the opntitle.dat begin position .. doesn't mean much :p 21:56:34 <TrueBrain> I have to say... never expected to see it anywhere NEAR finished :p 21:57:01 <Rubidium> I suggest that you make the changelog's formatting somewhat uniform 21:57:30 <Ammler> well, at least the temperate and arctic is done for first beta, foobar will release alpha5 tonight 21:57:43 <dihedral> and monorail still looks ugly :-D 21:57:59 <Ammler> no, they are plain awesome 21:58:12 <dihedral> they are ugly 21:58:27 <TrueBrain> I have to go with awesome too 21:58:29 <Ammler> well, you might have blaubus grf in mind. 21:58:40 <TrueBrain> maglev on the other hand ... 21:58:45 <Ammler> very nice 21:58:48 <TrueBrain> I expected true maglev .. in other words: ABOVE ground 21:59:10 <Ammler> maybe I have something misscoded, but Born Acorn made nice sprites. 21:59:23 <TrueBrain> maglev 45 degree looks ugly 21:59:24 <Rubidium> TrueBrain: what is "true" maglev? 21:59:27 <TrueBrain> (Right of menu) 21:59:32 <TrueBrain> Rubidium: well .. 'real life' maglev 21:59:37 <Rubidium> I'm aware of at least 2 ways 21:59:46 <TrueBrain> both German as Japan has it above ground on pilars 21:59:55 <dihedral> oh - sorry 22:00:02 <dihedral> i was confusing monorail and maglev 22:00:06 <dihedral> maglev looks ugly :-D 22:00:12 <TrueBrain> on that I agree dihedral 22:00:17 <TrueBrain> well .. as ugly as the real game :p 22:00:47 <dihedral> worse :-P 22:00:59 *** Zorn [~zorn@e177224033.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Quit: ( www.nnscript.com :: NoNameScript 4.2 :: www.regroup-esports.com )] 22:01:35 <dihedral> maglev looks square ^^ 22:02:06 <Ammler> you both mean the tracks, I guess? 22:02:11 <TrueBrain> yes 22:02:20 <Ammler> well, there also the drawer agrees 22:02:46 <Ammler> iirc from forum. 22:02:50 <Rubidium> TrueBrain: that you see them in Japan only on pilars doesn't say much about whether it is pilar based or not; lots and lots of Shinkansen track are elevated too, primarily because it goes through very hilly areas, thus tunnel-bridge-tunnel-bridge-... 22:03:20 <TrueBrain> Rubidium: even so; they both are with the idea the train itself is linked over a rail 22:03:24 <TrueBrain> not inside a tube 22:04:28 <Rubidium> the German one 'grabs' around the train, the Japanese one has a U shaped track with the train running inside the 'U' 22:05:12 <TrueBrain> http://www.chinapage.com/road/maglev/maglev02.jpg (China :p) 22:05:29 <Rubidium> that's the 'Germany' system 22:05:35 <Rubidium> i.e. it grabs the track 22:05:43 <TrueBrain> http://www.sustainablecitiesnet.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/_38643255_maglev_train5_300.jpg 22:05:45 <TrueBrain> to be more exact ;) 22:06:03 <Rubidium> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/dc/JR_Maglev-Lev.png <- the Japanese version 22:07:09 <TrueBrain> hmm, thought they left that behind 22:07:12 <TrueBrain> okay, fair enough 22:07:18 <TrueBrain> it still amazes me it is in a game from 1995 ... ;) 22:08:35 <Ammler> if there would be a solution for the signals, we could use foobar transrapid: http://ttd.jaspervries.nl/wiki/index.php?title=TransRapid_Track_Set 22:09:00 <TrueBrain> nice 404 22:09:03 <TrueBrain> I tihnk we should do that too yes 22:09:30 <Ammler> oh :-( 22:10:04 <KenjiE20> <TrueBrain> it still amazes me it is in a game from 1995 ... ;) <-- well, they Have been running test cars on it since the 70's :) 22:10:12 <TrueBrain> even so 22:10:14 <TrueBrain> it amazes me 22:10:19 <TrueBrain> he just got the introduction date wrong 22:10:28 <KenjiE20> hehe 22:10:56 <Rubidium> what intro date wasn't wrong? 22:10:57 <Ammler> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=638985 22:11:01 <TrueBrain> if I would have a big CD collection, what digital format would you advise which preserves the quality as good as possible? 22:11:09 <Tefad> lossless 22:11:13 <Tefad> any of them. 22:11:18 <Tefad> FLAC is pretty universal however 22:11:20 <TrueBrain> so WAV :p 22:11:36 * KenjiE20 uses ogg or flac, depending how much I care at the time :P 22:11:39 <TrueBrain> Ammler: much better ;) 22:11:54 <Ammler> yeah, but what with the signals? 22:11:57 * Tefad reminds KenjiE20 that Ogg is a container format. Vorbis is Xiph's lossy audio codec. 22:11:57 <TrueBrain> what if I tell you guys I don't know flac? :p 22:12:07 <KenjiE20> true dat 22:12:13 <Rubidium> encoding them in some manner lossless and get that integrated in the Linux kernel's git repository; instant free distributed backup 22:12:22 <Tefad> hah 22:12:25 <TrueBrain> Rubidium: OpenTTD good enough too? 22:12:30 <Rubidium> TrueBrain: no 22:12:32 <TrueBrain> the release size would grow .. say .. 20 GB? 22:12:38 <KenjiE20> http://www.freerip.com/ <--- use rip enjoy 22:12:41 <Rubidium> not enough people use it 22:12:43 <Tefad> ewww 22:12:45 <Tefad> use CDEX 22:12:51 <Tefad> or uh what's that otherone 22:13:00 <TrueBrain> I always used CDEX in my life :p 22:13:06 <TrueBrain> but I am on linux nowedays 22:13:17 <Tefad> it works in wine 22:13:39 <Tefad> ah EAC is the other one 22:13:44 <Tefad> exact audio copy 22:14:20 <Tefad> if you really want to back up a cd to your fullest ability, you should make sure you offsets are configured 22:14:25 <TrueBrain> FLAC average compression rate is 47% .. 22:14:31 <TrueBrain> wonder if I could not just keep the WAV :p 22:14:39 <Tefad> you can't tag wav files 22:14:47 <KenjiE20> if you REALLY want to back up a CD to it's fullest, make an ISO :P 22:14:48 <TrueBrain> very true 22:14:54 <TrueBrain> I don't want to make backups 22:14:56 <Tefad> CD has no ISO format 22:15:00 <Tefad> CD DA rather 22:15:00 <TrueBrain> I dislike putting CDs in a stereo over and over 22:15:11 <TrueBrain> so it really is playback only 22:15:15 <TrueBrain> the CDs are the backups :p 22:15:24 <Tefad> to future-proof transoding in the future, use flac 22:15:30 <Tefad> transcoding rather 22:15:36 <TrueBrain> flac seems very reasonable yes 22:15:49 <Tefad> for example, what if MP3 support goes out in favor of say.. AAC 22:15:57 <TrueBrain> I am so annoyed by the quality when I download an album (too lazy to rip, or even buy a CD) 22:15:57 <Rubidium> what? mplayer can't play isos? 22:15:58 <Tefad> or some next-gen codec 22:16:09 <Tefad> you can't make an ISO of an audio CD 22:16:16 <Tefad> audio has no file system 22:16:16 <TrueBrain> I wonder .. are there 5.1 (DTS, DD) records of normal music albums? 22:16:18 <Tefad> or file structure 22:16:24 <KenjiE20> TB; yup 22:16:27 <Tefad> you're thinking DVD-A 22:16:33 <Tefad> those aren't CDs. 22:16:35 <TrueBrain> I am not thinking anything :p 22:16:45 <TrueBrain> Tefad: CDs are just the medium, I don't care :p 22:16:47 <KenjiE20> Pink Floyd's Pulse probably had one 22:16:55 <KenjiE20> has* 22:16:56 <TrueBrain> I just wonder if I should consider that 22:17:06 <Tefad> well CDDA is a wonky medium ; ) 22:17:21 <Tefad> the bits just sit there on the disk with a TOC 22:17:31 <TrueBrain> first real use of the CD :) 22:17:39 <TrueBrain> took a while for the industry to adept and see the potential 22:17:48 *** Gleeb_ [~gleeb@on-intra.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:17:49 <Tefad> real file systems make more sense these days 22:17:51 <TrueBrain> but by then ... CDDA were widely used 22:18:11 <TrueBrain> I remember my first double (!) speed CD-Rom player 22:18:13 <Tefad> also these days we often lossily encode the contents 22:18:21 <TrueBrain> it was almost a year after I had my first CD Audio Player :p 22:18:23 <Tefad> my first computer had a 2X CD-ROM 22:18:30 <Tefad> it was my first CD audio player 22:18:45 <TrueBrain> either way, KenjiE20, you named one ... are there any more? 22:18:50 <Tefad> those drives did not support digital reading.. only analog out 22:18:55 <TrueBrain> or is DTS/DD in music just something that would never really happen? :) 22:18:55 <Tefad> "playback" only 22:19:04 <KenjiE20> not a clue tbh 22:19:22 <Tefad> my last CD purchase was a hybrid disc 22:19:38 <Tefad> non-conforming CDDA (polymer was too thin) and had DVD on the flipside 22:19:45 <KenjiE20> I presume anything that has a new fangled concert DVD may have a DVDA counterpart 22:19:49 <Tefad> which contained AC3 encoded stuff and some videos 22:20:06 <TrueBrain> DTS-CD :) Hehe 22:20:14 <Tefad> actually i've seen those 22:20:18 <Tefad> i tink 22:20:19 <Tefad> think. 22:20:22 <TrueBrain> DVD-A made them obselete 22:20:27 <Tefad> yeah 22:20:36 <Tefad> DTS-CD was a horrible idea ; ) 22:20:39 <Tefad> but still interesting 22:20:50 *** Farden [~jk3farden@ram94-7-82-232-189-236.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: ( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.1 :: www.regroup-esports.com )] 22:21:37 *** Gleeb_ [~gleeb@on-intra.net] has joined #openttd 22:21:44 <TrueBrain> basicly, I want to put my (mostly illegal) music collection in hard legal versions .. I wonder where to look for ;) 22:22:09 <TrueBrain> (and the 'hard' part refers to: no iTunes shit or any other (past) DRM enabled online store) 22:23:10 <Ammler> how can a music collection be illegal? 22:23:22 <Ammler> didn't you share? 22:23:25 <KenjiE20> Music Search for "DVD-Audio" at amazon yields 10,891 results 22:23:38 <TrueBrain> Ammler: well, in my country it is legal for now, as I only downloaded it 22:23:44 *** Gleeb_ [~gleeb@on-intra.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:23:44 <TrueBrain> but still .. you know what I mean ;) 22:23:50 <TrueBrain> KenjiE20: wow .. that is a bunch more then I expected 22:23:52 *** Lakie` [~Lakie@91.84.251.149] has joined #openttd 22:24:17 <KenjiE20> yea 22:24:28 *** Exl [~myself@cp1224652-a.roemd1.lb.home.nl] has quit [Quit: Bitches.] 22:24:36 <TrueBrain> I guess FLAC can't store that? :p 22:24:40 <KenjiE20> afk for a bit 22:27:40 <TrueBrain> I guess for DVD-A making it a .iso is the best way to go :p 22:29:30 <TrueBrain> k, tnx Tefad and KenjiE20 22:30:30 <TrueBrain> now a decent music player ..... :p 22:30:37 *** Lakie [~Lakie@91.84.251.149] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:30:39 <TrueBrain> one where my media keys work ... 22:40:14 *** oskari89 [oskari89@88.193.124.243] has quit [] 22:40:46 *** _Muddy [muddy@playing.OpenTTD.no] has joined #openttd 22:40:52 <TrueBrain> good night all 22:41:01 <TrueBrain> _Muddy: briliant domain 22:41:06 <KenjiE20> did you pick a player? 22:41:10 <dihedral> :-D 22:41:15 <dihedral> that IS a nice domain :-P 22:41:28 <TrueBrain> KenjiE20: nope 22:42:05 <dihedral> he has a nice website too 22:42:16 <KenjiE20> imo mpd and amarok are probably the nicer ones (mpd simply being a daemon with multiple frontends) 22:42:25 <TrueBrain> I used mpd for ages 22:42:32 <TrueBrain> but on big collections it tends to be unmanagable 22:42:38 *** Muddy [muddy@playing.OpenTTD.no] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:42:38 <TrueBrain> using Songbird now, but it sucks 22:42:40 *** _Muddy is now known as Muddy 22:42:56 <KenjiE20> still as bad as 0.3 or whatever from a while back? 22:43:05 <TrueBrain> it is like itunes now 22:43:08 <TrueBrain> but iTunes sucks too 22:43:09 <KenjiE20> bleh 22:43:24 <TrueBrain> I want something like foobar for linux I guess :p 22:43:31 <KenjiE20> heh foobar ^_^ 22:43:50 <TrueBrain> I wonder if FLAC works on my ipod .. 22:43:52 <TrueBrain> guess not 22:44:04 <KenjiE20> amarok was good, haven't tried amarok2 though 22:44:51 <TrueBrain> and rockbox doesn't work on my ipod nano :( 22:46:43 <TrueBrain> oeh, it does, I have a 1st gen :) Cool :p 22:48:26 <TrueBrain> oh well, bed time 22:48:28 <TrueBrain> night 22:48:35 <KenjiE20> night 22:49:43 <Eddi|zuHause> i thought CDs store basically the WAV data 22:49:53 *** Lakie` is now known as Lakie 22:51:37 *** NeO_Anderson [~Founder@194.50.80.117] has quit [Quit: Dispatch, I got a 10-67. 10-23, over.] 22:51:59 <Eddi|zuHause> i use amarok 1.4 22:52:18 <Eddi|zuHause> but 10.000 songs are probably not considered a big collection nowadays 22:53:34 <Eddi|zuHause> something always keeps me from switching to kde4 apps 23:11:54 *** KenjiE20 is now known as Guest655 23:11:54 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.8.22.103] has joined #openttd 23:14:49 *** Guest655 [~KenjiE20@92.2.73.174] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:33:02 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77DAE.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 23:33:21 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77D34.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 23:45:17 *** Splex [~splex@c-24-245-55-70.hsd1.wi.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 23:48:59 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1BA6A.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:51:12 *** goodger [~ben@host86-158-203-150.range86-158.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 23:52:57 *** Polygon [~Poly@x0581b.wh7.tu-dresden.de] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 23:55:14 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.202.11] has quit [Quit: ecke]