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00:03:17 *** Chrill [~chrischri@80.216.60.117] has joined #openttd 00:07:56 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@tunnel3304.ipv6.xs4all.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:08:25 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: smatz * r18437 /trunk/src/ai/ai_gui.cpp: -Fix (r16557): background of disabled button in AI GUI wasn't set back to grey after AI bankrupt 00:18:55 *** Morloth [~bram@cpc1-cowc4-0-0-cust183.renf.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 00:19:42 *** Sionide- [sionide@cornflakes.imen.org.uk] has joined #openttd 00:19:48 *** welshdragon [~mjones@147.143.254.73] has quit [Quit: Bai] 00:22:36 *** Sionide [sionide@cornflakes.imen.org.uk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:22:42 *** Sionide- is now known as Sionide 00:28:42 *** fjb_ [~frank@p5485F809.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 00:29:36 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1C61A.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:32:56 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77CF8.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 00:33:16 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77A20.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 00:35:52 *** fjb [~frank@p5485F9D3.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:38:31 *** Zahl [~Zahl@2002:55b4:e247:1:34c1:3d84:4697:940c] has quit [Quit: *schiel*] 00:41:30 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: rubidium * r18438 /trunk/src/core/math_func.hpp: -Codechange [FS#3337]: introduce a template for Clamp (fonsinchen) and reuse template functions in their non-template counterparts. 00:44:13 <Eddi|zuHause> i don't suppose that has a lot to do with cargodist :p 00:58:52 <fjb_> 00:58:57 <fjb_> Ups 00:59:01 *** fjb_ is now known as fjb 00:59:10 <Rubidium> grr... 00:59:21 <Rubidium> I'd like to vote to add a new forum rule please 01:00:11 *** JVassie [~TheExile^@nelocat2.gotadsl.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:00:30 <Rubidium> I propose: 0.a. no utterly annoying people that spam all formers with borderline useful brabble and think they are great. Being such a person causes an instant ban. 01:00:36 <Rubidium> please... pretty please :) 01:06:50 <Eddi|zuHause> persons starting with p? 01:09:26 <Rubidium> some of them at least 01:09:56 *** FauxFaux_ is now known as FauxFaux 01:10:09 * fjb supports Rubidium's vote. 01:11:24 <Chrill> ah, the famous Mr. P 01:12:07 <Eddi|zuHause> hm... someone gravedigged the routemarkers topic... 01:13:32 <Eddi|zuHause> and too many topic titles contain the word "improved", it's awfully confusing ;) 01:13:53 <Chrill> Improved Gravedigging? 01:14:09 <Eddi|zuHause> [but it's good that we at least got away from "NewEverything" 01:15:41 <Chrill> NewGravedigging? 01:16:07 <Chrill> GIRS - Gravedigging Industry Replacement Set 01:16:10 <Chrill> it's the way, nowadays 01:16:16 <Chrill> or, even better 01:16:24 <Chrill> GIRS Industry Replacement Set 01:16:43 <Chrill> tis like saying Salsa sauce for a Spaniard 01:18:37 <Rubidium> if only Mr. P would dig his own grave... 01:18:54 <fjb> Gravedigging industry sounds interesting. Something for an Egyption scenario. 01:19:36 <Eddi|zuHause> the guild addon had a graveyard "industry" ;) 01:20:06 <Eddi|zuHause> it's sad that i can't get guild 2 running on my system... 01:20:14 <Chrill> simple thing 01:20:20 <Chrill> OpenGFX is finished, yes? 01:20:27 <Chrill> or more or less, anyway 01:20:34 <Chrill> http://media.openttd.org/media/images/layout/frontpage-teaser-3.jpg <-- these things should be OpenGFX'd 01:21:56 <Eddi|zuHause> Chrill: i don't really see a reason why, but definitely not before a "full" release (bundle) with OpenGFX and OpenSFX is available 01:22:28 <Chrill> Okay 01:22:32 <Chrill> Tis just a suggestion 01:22:49 <Chrill> and there's a clear reason why, the same reason OpenGFX and OpenSFX have been developed 01:23:01 <Eddi|zuHause> well, i'm not the person to decide that anyway ;) 01:23:10 <Chrill> No, tis all down to me 01:24:06 * fjb hands Chrill an h. 01:24:07 <Eddi|zuHause> Chrill: no, it is different. screenshots typically fall into the "fair use" clause of various copyright jurisdiction 01:24:48 <Chrill> Ah 01:25:02 <Chrill> fjb, Chrillh? 01:25:22 * fjb oh noes. 01:26:08 *** Rubix`` [~wrqwer@69.49.68.95] has joined #openttd 01:26:22 <Eddi|zuHause> fjb: "Tis" needs no 'h', only an apostrophe for the missing "I" 01:26:48 <Eddi|zuHause> and possibly a space 01:27:19 <fjb> Oh, it meant that. 01:27:25 <Rubidium> or "iTs" just a slip of the finger 01:27:30 <Chrill> no 01:27:33 <Chrill> tis all meant to be 01:27:49 <Chrill> because I am odd like that 01:28:02 * fjb is unable to properly parse that word. 02:05:15 *** Rhamphoryncus [~rhamph@d199-126-251-5.abhsia.telus.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:06:07 *** Rhamphoryncus [~rhamph@d199-126-251-5.abhsia.telus.net] has joined #openttd 02:15:06 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@fuco.sks3.muni.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:19:56 *** De_Ghosty [~s@69-165-154-27.dsl.teksavvy.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:22:15 *** Chrill [~chrischri@80.216.60.117] has quit [] 02:30:15 *** KenjiE20|LT [~KenjiE20@host86-171-53-144.range86-171.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 02:31:03 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.8.119.136] has quit [Quit: ????] 02:49:17 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: glx * r18439 /trunk/src/sdl.cpp: -Fix (r15233): forgot to load the symbol from SDL.dll 02:53:04 *** PeterT [~Peter@c-76-19-211-40.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:53:23 *** PeterT [~Peter@c-76-19-211-40.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 02:54:11 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: glx * r18440 /trunk/src/crashlog.cpp: -Fix (r17774): don't try to get SDL version when SDL is not loaded 02:56:13 *** KritiK [~Maxim@78-106-218-233.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:56:42 *** PeterT [~Peter@c-76-19-211-40.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [] 02:56:49 *** PeterT [~Peter@c-76-19-211-40.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 03:01:45 *** Rubix`` [~wrqwer@69.49.68.95] has quit [Quit: Ping timeout: 540 seconds] 03:04:08 *** Rubix`` [~wrqwer@69.49.68.95] has joined #openttd 03:10:19 *** lskdfj [LadyHawk@78-105-102-180.zone3.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 03:10:19 *** LadyHawk [LadyHawk@78-105-102-180.zone3.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:10:23 *** lskdfj is now known as LadyHawk 03:27:05 *** Rubix`` [~wrqwer@69.49.68.95] has quit [Quit: Ping timeout: 540 seconds] 03:30:56 *** thingwath [~thingwath@r2ap232.net.upc.cz] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:35:22 *** thingwath [~thingwath@r2ap232.net.upc.cz] has joined #openttd 03:35:34 *** Rubix`` [~wrqwer@69.49.68.95] has joined #openttd 03:39:34 <PeterT> Night 03:39:44 *** PeterT [~Peter@c-76-19-211-40.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Night all, off to sleep] 04:02:43 *** llugo [~lugo@mgdb-4db8cbe8.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 04:04:32 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Administr@88.130.178.168] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:05:32 *** Rubix`` [~wrqwer@69.49.68.95] has quit [Quit: Ping timeout: 540 seconds] 04:09:55 *** lugo [~lugo@mgdb-4db8d6e4.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:15:45 *** KenjiE20|LT [~KenjiE20@host86-171-53-144.range86-171.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.] 04:16:14 *** KenjiE20|LT [~KenjiE20@host86-171-53-144.range86-171.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 04:32:13 *** glx [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:2c33:acd4:16a2:3df8] has quit [Quit: bye] 04:35:06 *** Morloth [~bram@cpc1-cowc4-0-0-cust183.renf.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 04:55:46 *** De_Ghosty [~s@69-165-157-12.dsl.teksavvy.com] has joined #openttd 05:04:43 *** De_Ghosty [~s@69-165-157-12.dsl.teksavvy.com] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 05:07:39 *** KenjiE20|LT [~KenjiE20@host86-171-53-144.range86-171.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:08:13 *** De_Ghosty [~s@69-196-178-74.dsl.teksavvy.com] has joined #openttd 05:12:31 *** xi23 [~xi@78.110.223.65] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:23:30 *** Lakie [~Lakie@91.84.251.149] has quit [Quit: Sleep.] 07:04:05 *** andythenorth [~andy@87.113.82.241.plusnet.pte-ag2.dyn.plus.net] has joined #openttd 07:05:21 *** andythenorth [~andy@87.113.82.241.plusnet.pte-ag2.dyn.plus.net] has quit [] 07:15:52 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@tunnel3304.ipv6.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 07:41:37 *** Polygon [~Poly@x0581b.wh7.tu-dresden.de] has joined #openttd 07:51:16 *** Terkhen [~Terkhen@127.69.220.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined #openttd 08:01:36 *** JVassie [~TheExile^@nelocat2.gotadsl.co.uk] has joined #openttd 08:06:11 *** TrueBrain_ [~truebrain@145.118.72.64] has joined #openttd 08:06:11 *** TrueBrain [~truebrain@145.118.72.64] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:09:58 *** Polygon [~Poly@x0581b.wh7.tu-dresden.de] has quit [Quit: Flieht, ihr Narren!] 08:17:05 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1C39F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 08:18:10 *** muep [~muep@www.sse.fi] has quit [Quit: serveri menee alta :-(] 08:22:03 *** boekabart [~bart@95.211.130.13] has joined #openttd 08:22:19 <boekabart> wtf is with the forums server ? "Advisering om indlaeg i emne - "Station inside tunnel?" " 08:22:35 <boekabart> why in some scandinavian language all of a sudden? 08:23:22 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: peter1138 * r18441 /trunk/src/vehicle_gui.cpp: -Fix: The vehicle list filler widget didn't fill. 08:23:57 <Yexo> boekabart: see http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=46070 08:25:43 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1C39F.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:28:43 <boekabart> hehe "Norwegian is just Danish with Swedish grammar" 08:29:43 <Forked> oy. 08:41:35 *** Goulp [~Goulp@nt2001.opsio.fr] has joined #openttd 08:43:58 *** Goulpy [~Goulp@nt2001.opsio.fr] has joined #openttd 08:43:58 *** Goulp [~Goulp@nt2001.opsio.fr] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:59:24 *** Rhamphoryncus [~rhamph@d199-126-251-5.abhsia.telus.net] has quit [Quit: Rhamphoryncus] 09:03:31 <Terkhen> wow, 259 warnings with r18441 in MSVC 09:04:14 <Terkhen> more important, it gives an error too: http://paste.openttd.org/219985 09:11:04 <peter1138> :) 09:12:42 *** |Terkhen| [~Terkhen@12.68.220.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined #openttd 09:13:01 *** Terkhen is now known as Guest882 09:13:01 *** |Terkhen| is now known as Terkhen 09:13:21 <TinoDidriksen> Seems that's only an error because warnings-are-errors is on. 09:13:31 *** Yexo [~Yexo@38-88-ftth.onsneteindhoven.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:14:18 *** Guest882 [~Terkhen@127.69.220.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:14:18 <Rubidium> oh... MSVC is being stupid again? 09:16:41 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: rubidium * r18442 /trunk/src/crashlog.cpp: -Fix (r18440): warning about SDL_Linked_Version never being NULL on non-Windows systems 09:19:54 *** bartaway is now known as bartavelle 09:19:56 <Rubidium> anyhow... casting an uint64 and an unsigned int to int and int is a better match than casting a uint64 and unsigned int to an uint64 and an uint64 09:20:15 <bartavelle> hello 09:25:36 *** boekabart [~bart@95.211.130.13] has left #openttd [] 09:28:25 *** andythenorth [~andy@78-86-194-127.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 09:28:50 *** andythenorth [~andy@78-86-194-127.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has quit [] 09:29:00 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: rubidium * r18443 /trunk/src/core/math_func.hpp: 09:29:00 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: -Fix (r18438): MSVC thinks, in it's infinite wisdom, that int min(int, int) is a 09:29:00 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: better match for min(uint64, uint) than uint64 min(uint64, uint64). As such we 09:29:00 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: need to cast the UINT16_MAX to prevent MSVC from displaying it's infinite wisdom 09:29:00 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: with loads of warnings. 09:31:15 <TinoDidriksen> Why isn't that just using std::min() ? 09:31:37 <peter1138> we like to reinvent the wheel 09:33:12 *** Goulpy [~Goulp@nt2001.opsio.fr] has quit [Quit: PACKET_SERVER_SHUTDOWN] 09:33:24 *** Goulp [~Goulp@nt2001.opsio.fr] has joined #openttd 09:37:31 *** fonsinchen [~alve@brln-4dbabf2b.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 09:56:13 <Terkhen> MSVC now keeps its mouth shout, thanks :) 09:56:27 <Terkhen> shut* 09:58:56 *** Yexo [~Yexo@38-88-ftth.onsneteindhoven.nl] has joined #openttd 09:59:57 *** andythenorth [~andy@78-86-194-127.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 10:05:02 <fonsinchen> That comment about MSVC's infinite wisdom is indeed funny, but it's only half as funny when it's misspelled (like it is in math_func.hpp) 10:05:07 * fonsinchen is nitpicking 10:05:09 *** andythenorth [~andy@78-86-194-127.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 10:06:05 *** TrueBrain_ is now known as TrueBrain 10:11:14 *** Goulpy [~Goulp@nt2001.opsio.fr] has joined #openttd 10:11:14 *** Goulp [~Goulp@nt2001.opsio.fr] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:14:27 *** Goulpy [~Goulp@nt2001.opsio.fr] has quit [] 10:14:40 *** Goulp [~Goulp@nt2001.opsio.fr] has joined #openttd 10:28:01 *** andythenorth [~andy@78-86-194-127.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 10:49:36 <planetmaker> hehe. Two mistakes in one comment :-P 10:49:50 <planetmaker> Btw, Kudos Rubidium and Zephyris for finishing OpenSFX! :-) 10:49:55 <planetmaker> Good job 10:51:00 <Noldo_> what? it's done? 10:51:04 <planetmaker> yes 10:54:18 *** andythenorth [~andy@78-86-194-127.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 10:58:40 <Rubidium> see... too much coding gets you sloppy English... apparantly my consistency part of the brain doesn't want to shut down for writing short bursts of English 11:00:34 * Rubidium doesn't like 'corner cases' 11:00:54 <planetmaker> he :-) 11:00:57 <Rubidium> like writing cross platform applications for unices is easy, except for MacOSX... 11:01:28 <planetmaker> MacOSX is rather BSD than unix ;-) 11:02:03 <planetmaker> (which doesn't make your statement untrue, though) 11:03:04 *** ecke [~ecke@195.113.129.34] has joined #openttd 11:03:27 <planetmaker> though... BSD could be considered a unix derivative... well :-P 11:03:44 <Rubidium> Berkeley Software Distribution (BSD, sometimes called Berkeley Unix) is the UNIX operating system derivative developed 11:06:43 <fjb> UNIX is in big parts BSD (more than MacOS X is). 11:07:07 <planetmaker> main difference is X or not to X 11:07:30 <planetmaker> and MacOSX prefers not to use X 11:07:47 <planetmaker> while most other *nix use an X-server to display things 11:08:12 <Rubidium> yet they have a X in the name 11:08:20 <Rubidium> oh confusius, where art thou? 11:08:42 <planetmaker> which is rather a roman 10 than an X ;-) 11:09:01 <Eddi|zuHause> WHAT? 11:09:03 <Eddi|zuHause> :p 11:10:24 <fjb> MacOS X uses a Microkernel (Mach if I'm not mistaken) which makes it also very different from any kind of UNIX. 11:13:23 <Rubidium> but ... X (Roman Numeral Ten) != X (Latin Capital Letter X) 11:13:37 <Rubidium> and Apple uses the X on their website, not the X 11:14:01 *** andythenorth [~andy@78-86-194-127.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 11:15:02 <fjb> At least MacOS X should not be confused with BSD. 11:16:30 <Rubidium> yep, we definitely do not have the intention yet to drop BSD support :) 11:16:32 <TrueBrain> "Mac OS X is based upon the Mach kernel.[9] Certain parts from FreeBSD's and NetBSD's implementation of Unix were incorporated in Nextstep, the core of Mac OS X." 11:17:13 <TrueBrain> so I am confused now ;) 11:17:30 *** ecke_ [~ecke@pc126-184.upce.cz] has joined #openttd 11:18:33 <Rubidium> so Nextstep, thus Mac OS X, is the (whatever logical operator would suffice here) of Hurd, FreeBSD and NetBSD 11:18:49 <TrueBrain> Nextstep != Mac OS X 11:18:53 <TrueBrain> more like Mac OS 6 or something 11:20:06 <Rubidium> well... 11:20:19 <Rubidium> so Nextstep, thus the core of Mac OS X, is the (whatever logical operator would suffice here) of Hurd, FreeBSD and NetBSD 11:20:28 * fjb is glad that BSD support doesn't get dropped. :-) 11:20:45 <Rubidium> because you just stated that Nextstep is the core of Mac OS X 11:21:15 <TrueBrain> yup 11:22:13 <TrueBrain> so now we are all happy again :p 11:23:24 <Eddi|zuHause> <Rubidium> yep, we definitely do not have the intention yet to drop BSD support :) <-- you ever heard the phrase "nobody has the intention to build a wall"? 11:23:43 <TrueBrain> but nobody did! :p 11:24:01 <Rubidium> true, they were all nobodies :) 11:24:40 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@s55928dd9.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 11:24:48 <Rubidium> however... the "yet" part is a quite important difference 11:25:05 *** ecke [~ecke@195.113.129.34] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:28:46 * peter1138 boots linux on his pocket pc 11:30:27 <peter1138> then... openttd, i guess 11:30:34 <peter1138> somehow :D 11:41:39 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: rubidium * r18444 /trunk/src/strgen/strgen.cpp: -Feature: allow G and P to 'select' substrings of STRINGn for getting their gender 11:42:23 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: rubidium * r18445 /trunk/src/lang/greek.txt: -Fix [FS#3335]: for STR_NEWS_INDUSTRY_CLOSURE_GENERAL the gender of the industry wasn't properly selected for Greek. 11:46:19 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.8.119.136] has joined #openttd 11:50:38 <Eddi|zuHause> a strgen feature... haven't seen that in a long time... 11:51:51 *** phalax [~phalax@84.19.128.89] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:00:44 *** phalax [~phalax@84.19.128.89] has joined #openttd 12:06:12 *** Zahl [~Zahl@2002:4e34:d387:1:ec5d:87c0:dd12:b9d6] has joined #openttd 12:06:12 *** Ammler [~ammler@62.75.156.145] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:06:12 *** FooBar [~FooBar@salieri.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:06:12 *** Hirundo [~Hirundo@salieri.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:10:31 *** FooBar [~FooBar@salieri.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 12:11:01 *** Hirundo [~Hirundo@salieri.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 12:11:09 *** Ammler [~ammler@salieri.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 12:26:05 <Eddi|zuHause> hm... is that my imagination or did the left/right arrows in the advanced settings menu change appearance? 12:27:31 <peter1138> probably 12:27:35 <peter1138> they got standardised 12:30:47 *** phalax [~phalax@84.19.128.89] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:33:24 *** Zahl_ [~Zahl@2002:4e34:d387:1:79c0:4fd6:2098:2c90] has joined #openttd 12:33:32 *** xi23 [~xi@78.110.223.65] has joined #openttd 12:34:05 *** Zahl__ [~Zahl@2002:4e34:d387:1:516a:60dc:3ab0:7f5b] has joined #openttd 12:34:24 <Eddi|zuHause> ooh... looking at old savegames is weird... 12:35:32 <Eddi|zuHause> what i considered "long" trains back then ;) 12:38:03 <Noldo_> how long are they? 12:41:08 *** Zahl [~Zahl@2002:4e34:d387:1:ec5d:87c0:dd12:b9d6] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:41:08 *** Zahl__ is now known as Zahl 12:41:19 <Rubidium> 8 parts :) 12:41:48 *** Zahl_ [~Zahl@2002:4e34:d387:1:79c0:4fd6:2098:2c90] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:41:49 *** phalax [~phalax@84.19.128.89] has joined #openttd 12:44:51 <Eddi|zuHause> yeah, something like that ;) 12:47:48 *** Coco-Banana-Man [~Stephan.D@p5B2DBFE7.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 12:51:17 *** andythenorth [~andy@78-86-194-127.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 12:52:39 *** andythenorth [~andy@78-86-194-127.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 12:53:33 *** Wheatbix [~tegal_85@115-64-156-58.tpgi.com.au] has quit [] 12:54:29 *** glx [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:f98a:7331:708c:3f25] has joined #openttd 12:54:32 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 13:08:58 <peter1138> checking for shl_load... configure: error: Link tests are not allowed after GCC_NO_EXECUTABLES. 13:09:05 <peter1138> i'm glad cross compiling gcc is so easy ;p 13:12:56 *** andythenorth [~andy@78-86-194-127.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 13:22:52 * peter1138 tries again 13:23:24 *** andythenorth [~andy@78-86-194-127.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 13:31:27 *** andythenorth [~andy@78-86-194-127.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:50:12 <peter1138> and it fails again 13:51:43 <Rubidium> what version of GCC are you using? 13:52:46 *** welshdragon [~mjones@147.143.254.214] has joined #openttd 13:52:53 <peter1138> gcc-4.3.2 13:53:05 *** welshdragon [~mjones@147.143.254.214] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:53:09 <peter1138> hmm, it wants pthread.h now 13:53:23 *** welshdragon [~mjones@147.143.254.214] has joined #openttd 13:54:57 *** Fast2 [~Fast2@p57AFAB69.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 13:56:06 <Rubidium> hmm, then I have no clue 14:01:56 <peter1138> hmm, it's chicken & egg 14:02:07 <peter1138> i need a cross compiled glibc 14:02:11 <peter1138> to build the cross compiler... 14:02:50 <Noldo_> what is your ultimate goal? 14:02:57 <peter1138> to compile stuff 14:04:01 <Noldo_> on x86 for some embedded thingie? 14:05:11 <peter1138> arm 14:05:39 *** Mark [~Mark@5ED06D96.cable.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 14:07:22 <fjb> arm-elf or arm-eabi? 14:08:10 <blathijs> peter1138: Any particular distro you're looking at? I think gentoo has some tool (crossdev IIRC) that takes care of this kinds of stuff 14:08:27 <peter1138> i'm on debian 14:08:34 <peter1138> it is for openmoko 14:08:40 *** ecke_ [~ecke@pc126-184.upce.cz] has quit [Quit: ecke_] 14:08:42 <blathijs> peter1138: And the OpenWRT build system also has some useful auto-crosscompiler-compilation stuff that worked very well for me. 14:08:49 <peter1138> i just cheated though, and downloaded their prebuilt environment 14:10:49 <fjb> Don't know about openmoko. I'm using eCos in my project. 14:12:31 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1C39F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 14:18:38 <Belugas> hello 14:18:51 <peter1138> and the prebuilt environment doesn't work either 14:19:02 <peter1138> probably incorrect paths, it can't find cstdio et al 14:19:41 <fjb> Moin Belugas 14:21:22 <fjb> Hm, I have a glibc for arm-elf and arm-eabi (both for gcc-4.3.2). 14:22:26 <fjb> But the paths may also be different from what you need. 14:24:16 *** Fast2 [~Fast2@p57AFAB69.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:25:24 <fjb> Did somebody complain about an inefficient small airport yesterday? I have an screen shot with 3 planes on a small airport at the same time. 14:38:24 <sparr> someone here linked to a blog the other day where a custom build of openttd was available that included some special features like copy and paste 14:40:59 <fjb> There are some of that. You can find them at the forum. 14:41:59 <Eddi|zuHause> sparr: search for "patch pack" in the forum 14:42:46 <fjb> What does copy and paste do when the landscape differs? 14:44:45 <planetmaker> nice. another thread with "I wanna become an OpenTTD dev" 14:45:24 <peter1138> "I know about OTTD and have some knowledge of C++ and advanced knowledge of coding in general" 14:45:27 <peter1138> vs 14:45:34 <peter1138> "help me set up what programs and setup I need" 14:46:48 *** andythenorth [~andy@78-86-194-127.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 14:47:14 <planetmaker> no :-) http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=46207 and http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=46182 are virtually identical - just 24h between their posting time 14:52:00 *** Muddy [muddy@ipv6-gw.s2.netthost.no] has joined #openttd 14:55:08 <fjb> They could also become part of the project by writing some useful tools that make developing grfs easier or enhance the remote control abilities. That would be easier for C++ beginners. 14:55:46 *** Dred_furst [~Dred_furs@cpc3-pool3-0-0-cust999.sotn.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 14:56:13 <sparr> fjb: based on the screenshot, it landscapes 14:56:29 <sparr> the example included adding some slopes for tunnels 14:56:54 <sparr> I'm still trying to get the hang of signalling on non-trivial junctions 14:57:21 <fjb> Just don't make non-trivial junctions. 14:57:43 <fjb> And you will not learn from copying and pasting anyway. 14:59:31 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Administr@88.130.178.168] has joined #openttd 15:02:49 <sparr> no, but it would save me time when i'm not trying to learn more about a particular junction 15:02:51 <peter1138> hmm, my bathroom scales have metricised imperial 15:03:07 <peter1138> they show x st and x.x lb 15:03:32 <sparr> right now i'd love to just have parallel tracks to paste so i dont have to scroll, drag, scroll, drag, scroll drag... x2 15:04:49 <fjb> You are playing on a flat map? 15:04:59 <sparr> flatter than default 15:05:14 <sparr> well, less hilly :) 15:05:21 <sparr> default flatness, *smoother* than default 15:05:21 <planetmaker> minimize the map and drag then. 15:05:40 <planetmaker> sounds pretty boring, though ;-) 15:05:49 <sparr> noticed you can change the smoothness without affecting difficulty level 15:06:42 <fjb> You can make an absolutely flat world without obstacles in the scenery editor. 15:06:57 <peter1138> zoom out, or use a secondary viewport 15:07:16 <sparr> discovered last night that delivery distance is based on the location of the stations, not industries... that's amazingly useful to know, and not something i encountered in any of the newbie guides. might edit the wiki about that 15:09:57 <sparr> before i do, is that accurate? 15:10:32 <fjb> Yes. 15:12:06 *** andythenorth [~andy@78-86-194-127.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 15:15:23 <Yexo> to be precise, it's the distance between the station signs (the labels) that counts 15:15:46 <sparr> orly? 15:16:21 <sparr> so would building linked non-adjacent stations to maximize that distance while minimizing actual delivery distance be considered an exploit? 15:16:58 <Yexo> that depends on the server you play on, on most servers it's indeed considered cheating 15:17:59 <fjb> And why are you playing a transport game when you just "beam" everything? 15:21:34 <peter1138> 12 15:21:46 <Belugas> mmh... funny... i've exchanged a 2g SD card for a 1g. And I'm happy with it... 15:22:37 <sparr> can someone explain how this works? I would expect any train trying to enter the station to immediately reverse when it hits the back side of a one-way signal. http://wiki.openttd.org/Image:Yapp_basicstation.png 15:23:37 *** Gremnon [~Gremnon@87.112.14.85.plusnet.ptn-ag1.dyn.plus.net] has joined #openttd 15:24:38 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: glx * r18446 /trunk/src/os/windows/crashlog_win.cpp: -Fix (r17450): abort() doesn't trigger crashlog on windows 15:24:44 <fjb> Belugas: That would make me happy too. My phone can only handle up to 1 GB. :-) 15:25:38 <fjb> sparr: That are not one way signals. 15:26:31 <sparr> can you elaborate on that? perhaps i have some misconception about simple signals 15:27:02 <glx> it's how YAPP works 15:29:12 *** De_Ghosty [~s@69-196-178-74.dsl.teksavvy.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:30:12 <fjb> Why shloud a train care for the backside of a signal? That strange behaviour was only required for the old signals. 15:30:49 <sparr> I have been using single block signals to create one-way track, and it seems to work. Am I doing it wrong? 15:31:48 <fjb> That are the old signals. 15:32:23 <fjb> OpenTTD has two kinds of signals. the old type block signals and the new path signals. 15:32:33 <sparr> yes 15:32:59 <sparr> that image looks like block signals, but perhaps I am using a different signals grf 15:33:01 *** Gremnon [~Gremnon@87.112.14.85.plusnet.ptn-ag1.dyn.plus.net] has quit [Quit: Goodbyeeeee] 15:33:40 <glx> the image uses yapp signal 15:34:13 <sparr> ahh, ok, that is the case 15:34:16 <sparr> sorry for the mixup 15:34:28 <fjb> The caption in big letters tells you: Image:Yapp basicstation.png 15:34:48 <glx> you can use signal GUI to see all different signals 15:36:12 *** welshdragon [~mjones@147.143.254.214] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:36:24 <fjb> Hm, this road vehicles have the lv-syndrom. 15:36:28 <sparr> fjb: i had no idea what "yapp" meant 15:36:53 <sparr> glx: yes, but I had a different signals GRF loaded, and my block signals look like original path signals. very confusing. 15:37:18 <glx> signal GUI and tooltips will tell you all :) 15:37:37 <fjb> Further down the page tells you: The following pages link to this file: Yet Another PBS Patch 15:38:07 <sparr> glx: I am not sure what you mean 15:39:32 <glx> open signal window and right click on each signal 15:40:23 <sparr> that only helps for the grf i am using, which didn't match the screenshot 15:40:29 <sparr> which was the source of my confusion 15:40:57 <sparr> new question... is there a way to get AI buses to stop stopping on my train tracks and getting hit by my trains, other than building a lot of tunnels/bridges? 15:42:22 <fjb> No. They stop there only when broken down or blocked by the traffic ahead. 15:42:38 <fjb> Using path signals lets the crossings close earlier. 15:42:39 <sparr> stupid drivers 15:42:47 *** ecke [~ecke@188.75.128.2] has joined #openttd 15:42:59 * sparr needs a do not stop on tracks sign 15:43:00 <bartavelle> i never had that happening, does it wreck your train ? 15:43:07 <sparr> no, but it destroys the bus 15:43:15 <sparr> and i expect it angers the local authority 15:43:17 <glx> not yours, so it's ok 15:43:18 <fjb> That's why you don't have ai bus drivers in reality yet. 15:43:21 <bartavelle> celebrate then 15:43:31 <sparr> the local authority bit is the problem :) 15:43:45 <glx> trees are your friends :) 15:44:09 <sparr> the other day i asked about necessary overlap between station coverage and industry... to extend that question, how does station coverage interact with passengers and mail for a town? 15:44:35 <fjb> And well serviced stations also make the authorities friendly. 15:45:03 <sparr> found a tip on the wiki indicating that more coverage means more passengers and mail 15:45:07 *** welshdragon [~mjones@147.143.254.73] has joined #openttd 15:45:25 <planetmaker> hint: query the houses 15:45:44 <fjb> 8/8 acceptance of the cargo must be in the coverage of the station to make it accept that cargo. 15:47:05 <sparr> im more interested in provides 15:47:21 <Yexo> not sure if those train->bus crahses have any influance on the local authority, but it does have a big impact on the station ratings 15:47:55 <sparr> Yexo: yes, that, thanks 15:48:14 <sparr> planetmaker: that seems to only list acceptance (and thanks for pointing that out, i never used the query tool before) 15:49:35 <planetmaker> hm... if it doesn't tell the amount of pax & mail generated, then there's no easy way. 15:49:45 <planetmaker> it's a property which is set per house and differs from house to house 15:50:01 <fjb> Houses are usually generating passengers and mail. More houses generate more passengers. :-) 15:50:39 <sparr> ok 15:50:47 <sparr> i always assumed the town as a whole functioned as an industry 15:51:07 <planetmaker> nope. If I want I can also make houses which accept coal and produce waste 15:51:28 <planetmaker> each individually. And the petrol station, of course, accepts fuel oil 15:51:48 <planetmaker> (like it iirc does with ttrs) 15:52:56 <fjb> And swedish houses. 15:54:15 <sparr> good to know 15:54:40 <sparr> this, coupled with the station-distance fact from above, will double my early game income... 15:57:05 <sparr> learning a lot, thanks 15:57:19 <fjb> More active stations in a town make it grow faster. 15:57:25 *** Terkhen [~Terkhen@12.68.220.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [Quit: ...] 15:59:50 <sparr> that i gathered from the wiki 16:00:13 *** Fuco [~a@fuco.sks3.muni.cz] has joined #openttd 16:00:27 *** Terkhen [~Terkhen@12.68.220.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined #openttd 16:12:09 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590fcb4b.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 16:14:39 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Administr@88.130.159.15] has joined #openttd 16:15:56 *** Rubix`` [~wrqwer@69.49.68.95] has joined #openttd 16:17:13 *** fonsinchen [~alve@brln-4dbabf2b.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:20:18 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Administr@88.130.178.168] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:35:09 *** andythenorth [~andy@78-86-194-127.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 16:38:02 <peter1138> bah 16:38:06 <peter1138> openmoko is shit slow anyway 16:40:05 <peter1138> and doesn't detect landscape/portrait switch 16:41:44 *** LordAzamath [~stabuinte@82.131.16.156.cable.starman.ee] has joined #openttd 16:44:07 *** phalax [~phalax@84.19.128.89] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:55:43 *** phalax [~phalax@84.19.128.89] has joined #openttd 16:58:10 *** bartavelle is now known as bartaway 16:58:25 <Eddi|zuHause> hm... can one create a makefile from a .vcproj? 17:01:33 *** Rhamphoryncus [~rhamph@d199-126-251-5.abhsia.telus.net] has joined #openttd 17:02:08 *** worldemar2 [~woldemar@188.122.241.19] has quit [Quit: Desu isn't funny. I am serious, desu.] 17:06:15 *** Rubix`` [~wrqwer@69.49.68.95] has quit [Quit: Ping timeout: 540 seconds] 17:10:48 *** Sacro [~ben@150.237.48.99] has quit [Quit: Reconnecting] 17:10:50 *** Sacro [~ben@150.237.48.99] has joined #openttd 17:11:02 *** |Terkhen| [~Terkhen@60.69.220.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined #openttd 17:11:24 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: rubidium * r18447 /trunk/src/ (6 files): -Change: make some more windows (e.g. graphs, company view) stickyable 17:11:46 *** Muddy [muddy@ipv6-gw.s2.netthost.no] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:14:46 *** Terkhen is now known as Guest934 17:14:46 *** |Terkhen| is now known as Terkhen 17:15:32 <glx> Eddi|zuHause: there are tools for that but most just fails 17:15:42 *** Guest934 [~Terkhen@12.68.220.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:15:50 <Eddi|zuHause> different question: how do i set up a cross compiler? 17:16:04 <Rubidium> for? 17:16:08 <Eddi|zuHause> i.e. compiling a windows .dll under linux 17:16:19 <glx> install mingw :) 17:16:26 <Rubidium> apt-get cache search mingw ? 17:17:18 <Eddi|zuHause> no results 17:17:37 <Rubidium> maybe it's in non-free or so 17:17:41 <Rubidium> or contrib 17:20:06 <Eddi|zuHause> i don't find anything remotely matching... 17:20:34 <Rubidium> http://paste.openttd.org/220045 17:21:59 <Rubidium> or you're not using the same Linux version as I'm using 17:23:04 <Eddi|zuHause> well, obviously ;) 17:24:52 *** Fast2 [~Fast2@p57AFAB69.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 17:28:47 *** Netsplit joule.oftc.net <-> charon.oftc.net quits: guru3, @Rubidium, Andel, andythenorth, Progman, SirSquidness, Lachie, Markk, @Belugas, octo, (+61 more, use /NETSPLIT to show all of them) 17:29:32 *** Netsplit over, joins: SpComb, @orudge, Born_Acorn, LordAzamath, welshdragon, sparr, XeryusTC, SmatZ, planetmaker, @peter1138 (+61 more) 17:29:43 <Eddi|zuHause> i wasn't me! 17:30:30 <Coco-Banana-Man> who were you then? :P 17:31:02 <_ln> i wasn't Eddi|zuHause either! 17:31:33 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@94-224-31-113.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 17:33:31 *** Polygon [~Poly@x0581b.wh7.tu-dresden.de] has joined #openttd 17:44:02 *** phalax [~phalax@84.19.128.89] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:51:44 *** |Terkhen| [~Terkhen@44.68.220.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined #openttd 17:52:57 *** worldemar [~woldemar@188.122.241.19] has joined #openttd 17:56:24 *** phalax [~phalax@84.19.128.89] has joined #openttd 17:57:52 *** Terkhen [~Terkhen@60.69.220.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:59:28 *** |Terkhen| is now known as Terkhen 18:09:35 <sparr> is there a way to make the screenshot popup not appear or not appear in the screenshot? 18:09:57 *** worldemar [~woldemar@188.122.241.19] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:10:29 <Eddi|zuHause> sparr: why would the popup appear in the screenshot, except if you make another screenshot right afterwards? 18:10:51 *** worldemar [~woldemar@213.178.44.216] has joined #openttd 18:11:01 <sparr> an excellent question 18:11:20 <SmatZ> sparr: you can make screenshot from console as well 18:11:38 <SmatZ> "screenshot [nocon|big] [filename]" 18:11:52 <SmatZ> but popul will appear after making the screenshot 18:14:00 <sparr> ok, i guess i must have made two in a row last time 18:14:09 <Belugas> yup yup 18:18:21 <peter1138> hurr 18:20:36 *** fonsinchen [~alve@brln-4dbabf2b.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 18:31:59 *** Goulp [~Goulp@nt2001.opsio.fr] has quit [Quit: PACKET_SERVER_SHUTDOWN] 18:33:01 *** andythenorth [~andy@78-86-194-127.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 18:36:47 <Belugas> http://ca.news.yahoo.com/nphotos/slideshow/ss/events/ca/20070302_winterstorm 18:36:48 <Belugas> yeah! 18:37:56 <Rubidium> 2007? 18:39:18 <Prof_Frink> I wants snows. 18:39:30 <sparr> is there a way to see the state of an electric signal facing away from the camera (northeast)? 18:39:31 <Belugas> it's jsut numbers ;) 18:40:59 <Belugas> sparr, i guess there are a few pixels avalaible 18:41:12 <Belugas> but don't count on my words too much 18:41:21 <Belugas> and no, we do not rotate the screen 18:45:44 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: translators * r18448 /trunk/src/lang/ (9 files in 2 dirs): (log message trimmed) 18:45:44 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: -Update from WebTranslator v3.0: 18:45:44 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: finnish - 1 changes by jpx_ 18:45:44 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: german - 7 changes by Roujin, planetmaker 18:45:46 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: hungarian - 1 changes by alyr 18:45:46 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: italian - 4 changes by lorenzodv 18:45:48 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: norwegian_bokmal - 33 changes by CyberKenny 18:47:55 <Rubidium> hmm... using 0:2 when the string only takes 1 param isn't going to work, planetmaker was that you? 18:48:27 <Rubidium> I know WT3 doesn't really validate them yet 18:50:06 *** LordAzamath [~stabuinte@82.131.16.156.cable.starman.ee] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.5/20091102152451]] 18:50:17 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: rubidium * r18449 /trunk/src/lang/german.txt: -Fix (r18448): invalid argidx offsets in German 18:52:01 <sparr> Belugas: available, as in for custom graphics to resolve the issue? 18:52:27 <Belugas> who said anything abuot custom graphics? 18:54:16 <sparr> so what did you mean? 18:54:20 <sparr> a few pixels available for what? 18:54:26 <Belugas> ... 18:55:29 <Belugas> never mind. 18:55:34 <Belugas> [13:39] <sparr> is there a way to see the state of an electric signal facing away from the camera (northeast)? <--- no..not at all 18:55:44 <Belugas> just checked 18:59:34 <frosch123> hmm, ImageOutputStream resp. DataOutput definitely misses some method to write a certain amount of zeros :s 19:05:42 <Sacro> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udlxr8t1nZM 19:05:45 <Sacro> nice camera 19:06:03 *** Sionide [sionide@cornflakes.imen.org.uk] has quit [Quit: Terminated with extreme prejudice - dircproxy 1.0.5] 19:13:00 <frosch123> it's a cell phone 19:13:32 <frosch123> though, noone said you could use it as such 19:13:36 <Sacro> it can accept cdrom, 3.5" and 5.25" floppies, cassette and VHS 19:13:43 <Sacro> that's got to count for something 19:14:07 <frosch123> of course, they directly feed the nuclear core 19:14:39 <Sacro> oh yes 19:18:33 *** Sionide [sionide@cornflakes.imen.org.uk] has joined #openttd 19:22:38 <Belugas> whohoo!!! sparr, that's nice :D a 5 year topic digging :D 19:22:45 <Belugas> i wonder what is the record... 19:27:14 <Eddi|zuHause> <Belugas> [13:39] <sparr> is there a way to see the state of an electric signal facing away from the camera (northeast)? <--- no..not at all <--- only when replacing the sprites 19:27:40 * welshdragon clicks the ! 19:29:10 * Belugas always assume standard set, except when specififally mentionned otherwise, of course 19:29:35 *** andythenorth [~andy@87.115.136.160] has joined #openttd 19:30:10 <Eddi|zuHause> it's not an assumption, it's a suggestion for a solution 19:31:22 <Belugas> ho... right... well.. problem is that the next question will be "Where do i find such a set" 19:31:29 <Belugas> and there, i could not answer ;) 19:32:04 <Belugas> apart the usual "search yourself" or "do it yourself" 19:32:43 <Eddi|zuHause> once upon a time i read something like "i have graphics that show the signal state from the back" 19:33:05 <Eddi|zuHause> but i have no idea where, or if that was compiled into a grf 19:35:25 *** TheMask96 [martijn@greed.vhost.ne2000.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:41:51 *** TheMask96 [martijn@greed.vhost.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 19:42:14 *** Yexo [~Yexo@38-88-ftth.onsneteindhoven.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:42:34 *** Yexo [~Yexo@38-88-ftth.onsneteindhoven.nl] has joined #openttd 19:46:06 <sparr> Belugas: would you prefer i start another topic? who cares how old it is? 19:48:10 <Belugas> sometimes it's better to leave the corpses as they are 19:48:47 <sparr> it's not a corpse 19:48:50 <sparr> problem persists 19:48:52 <sparr> unresolved 19:49:01 <sparr> rotation would be a neat feature, i think 19:51:41 *** Yexo [~Yexo@38-88-ftth.onsneteindhoven.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:51:53 *** Yexo [~Yexo@38-88-ftth.onsneteindhoven.nl] has joined #openttd 19:52:47 <Rhamphoryncus> Who still looks at signals though? Path signals have no useful feedback 19:56:08 <Belugas> i guess that if rotation was such a wanted feature, we would have done it already. 5 years and stillnot there? I wonder if it's out of lazyness or is it a question of faisabililty 19:56:47 <Sacro> probably lazyness 19:57:09 <Belugas> yup. could very well be 19:57:13 <Belugas> at least from me 19:58:04 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@94-224-31-113.access.telenet.be] has quit [Quit: oO] 19:59:22 *** Terkhen [~Terkhen@44.68.220.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [Quit: ...] 19:59:54 <_ln> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1234430/Mystery-spiral-blue-light-display-hovers-Norway.html 20:01:33 <Sacro> yes norwegians 20:01:35 <Sacro> WTF IS THAT 20:03:31 <sparr> sometimes stations fill up with cargo when there aren't enough trains. sometimes an industry says <100% transported even when the stations are completely emptied every trip. what's up with that? 20:03:39 <sparr> Rhamphoryncus: path signals aren't the only kind of signal 20:04:44 <Rhamphoryncus> sparr: only kind I use 20:04:56 <Rhamphoryncus> Although I admit, i have seen more complicated perversions 20:05:20 <Belugas> yeah... the boiling water on the tits is a nice one 20:07:15 <sparr> Rhamphoryncus: I was trying to figure out how to build a priority when i needed to see the signal in question 20:07:28 <sparr> i guess building it in that particular orientation was counterproductive :) 20:08:56 <_ln> Belugas: a canadian tradition? 20:10:42 <Belugas> lol 20:10:48 <Belugas> no, not really 20:10:53 <Belugas> not at all 20:11:19 *** Terkhen [~Terkhen@200.68.220.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined #openttd 20:11:55 *** lskdfj [LadyHawk@78-105-102-180.zone3.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 20:15:32 *** tokai [~tokai@p5B2B0F7D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:16:44 *** Netsplit charon.oftc.net <-> solenoid.oftc.net quits: eQualizer, Strid__, @orudge, tneo, Polygon, octo, Sirenia, Osai, +glx, Markk, (+10 more, use /NETSPLIT to show all of them) 20:16:44 *** lskdfj is now known as LadyHawk 20:17:02 <fjb> Who stands on the wire? 20:17:51 *** Netsplit over, joins: SpComb, @orudge, Born_Acorn, Polygon, +glx, XeryusTC, SmatZ, tneo, Osai, eQualizer (+9 more) 20:17:54 *** tokai [~tokai@p5B2B235B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 20:17:57 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 20:20:28 <frosch123> hmm, i'm on the wrong side of the split 20:20:59 <fjb> Why? I'm still here. 20:20:59 <Rubidium> need to talk to SmatZ or peter1138? 20:21:29 <frosch123> yeah, but also sparr 20:21:29 <Rubidium> who cares about him? 20:21:59 <frosch123> he keeps your filter busy 20:25:23 *** Netsplit joule.oftc.net <-> charon.oftc.net quits: nfc, SirSquidness, FauxFaux, TrueBrain, egladil, @Belugas, Xaroth, andythenorth, planetmaker, ecke, (+41 more, use /NETSPLIT to show all of them) 20:26:00 *** Netsplit over, joins: +tokai, TheMask96, andythenorth, Rhamphoryncus, frosch123, welshdragon, ecke, Dred_furst, Progman, Mark (+41 more) 20:26:03 *** andythenorth [~andy@87.115.136.160] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 20:26:37 <KenjiE20> live, damnit, live 20:34:41 <sparr> welcome back :) 20:38:34 <Belugas> argh!! 20:39:12 <fjb> I had the same thought. 20:43:56 <Belugas> lol 20:44:32 <Xaroth> [sparr]: sometimes stations fill up with cargo when there aren't enough trains. sometimes an industry says <100% transported even when the stations are completely emptied every trip. what's up with that? << that's because goods still in transit, is not 'transported' 20:46:56 <Rhamphoryncus> Which means you need instantaneous transport to have a 100% rating. (However, I think it's only checked occasionally, which does give you some windows to get 100%) 20:48:04 <Xaroth> unless you introduce portal-esque devices. 20:54:30 <fjb> Beam me up, Scotty. 20:54:34 <Rhamphoryncus> That would qualify as instantaneous 20:54:51 <Rhamphoryncus> Unless there's still loading time. Then you're boned 20:55:42 <Prof_Frink> Instantaneous transport was possible at one point with ttdpatch. 20:55:44 <Yexo> actually the % transported from an industry is the station rating at the first (maybe last) of the month 20:56:02 <Yexo> it's more difficult when there are multiple statiosn with ratings nearby, don't know exactly how it works in that case 20:57:19 *** andythenorth [~andy@87.112.90.10.plusnet.ptn-ag2.dyn.plus.net] has joined #openttd 21:00:55 *** phalax [~phalax@84.19.128.89] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:00:58 *** andythenorth [~andy@87.112.90.10.plusnet.ptn-ag2.dyn.plus.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:03:22 *** andythenorth [~andy@87.113.78.255.plusnet.pte-ag2.dyn.plus.net] has joined #openttd 21:05:05 *** PeterT [~PeterT@c-76-19-211-40.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 21:09:46 *** phalax [~phalax@84.19.128.89] has joined #openttd 21:10:27 *** KritiK [~Maxim@78-106-62-108.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 21:15:23 *** Lakie [~Lakie@91.84.251.149] has joined #openttd 21:19:38 *** PeterT [~PeterT@c-76-19-211-40.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:23:48 *** PeterT [~Peter@c-76-19-211-40.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 21:25:10 <fjb> I need a harbour on a bridge. 21:25:50 <frosch123> i need some sleep 21:26:01 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590fcb4b.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:27:55 <fjb> A headless bridge would also do. 21:30:01 *** Rubix`` [~wrqwer@69.49.68.95] has joined #openttd 21:30:29 *** Noldo_ is now known as Noldo 21:33:22 *** Mark [~Mark@5ED06D96.cable.ziggo.nl] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.0.4/2008103100]] 21:42:05 *** andythenorth [~andy@87.113.78.255.plusnet.pte-ag2.dyn.plus.net] has left #openttd [] 21:49:46 *** FooBar [~FooBar@salieri.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Quit: make clean && exit - http.//dev.openttdcoop.org] 21:49:46 *** Ammler [~ammler@salieri.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Quit: gone...] 21:49:46 *** Hirundo [~Hirundo@salieri.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Quit: Bye - http.//dev.openttdcoop.org] 21:50:31 *** FooBar [~FooBar@salieri.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 21:50:36 *** Hirundo [~Hirundo@salieri.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 21:51:09 *** Ammler [~ammler@salieri.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 21:58:27 *** Rubix`` [~wrqwer@69.49.68.95] has quit [Quit: Ping timeout: 540 seconds] 21:59:57 *** welshdragon [~mjones@147.143.254.73] has quit [Quit: Bai] 22:00:53 *** PeterT [~Peter@c-76-19-211-40.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:02:35 *** Brianetta [~brian@188-220-91-30.zone11.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 22:10:54 *** De_Ghosty [~s@206-248-179-229.dsl.teksavvy.com] has joined #openttd 22:19:44 *** Dred_furst [~Dred_furs@cpc3-pool3-0-0-cust999.sotn.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:25:25 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: rubidium * r18450 /trunk/src/vehicle_gui.cpp: -Fix [FS#3363]: initial size of the vehicle detail windows would occasionally be too small (although it could be resized) 22:31:23 *** Fast2 [~Fast2@p57AFAB69.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:36:44 *** Chrill [~chrischri@80.216.60.117] has joined #openttd 22:44:05 *** sparrL [~kvirc@c-24-126-240-213.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 22:57:40 <Terkhen> good night 22:57:42 *** Terkhen [~Terkhen@200.68.220.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [Quit: ...] 23:09:30 *** sparr [~kvirc@c-24-98-228-62.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:13:22 *** glx [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:f98a:7331:708c:3f25] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:13:23 *** Lakie [~Lakie@91.84.251.149] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:13:35 *** glx [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:f98a:7331:708c:3f25] has joined #openttd 23:13:38 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 23:14:09 *** FooBar [~FooBar@salieri.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Quit: make clean && exit - http.//dev.openttdcoop.org] 23:14:15 *** Lakie [~Lakie@91.84.251.149] has joined #openttd 23:14:31 *** FooBar [~FooBar@salieri.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 23:15:51 *** Pikka [~user@softbank220019198071.bbtec.net] has joined #openttd 23:19:27 *** ecke [~ecke@188.75.128.2] has quit [Quit: ecke] 23:29:10 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1C39F.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:43:33 *** Coco-Banana-Man [~Stephan.D@p5B2DBFE7.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Die Nützlichkeit der Götter war schon immer eine zweifelhafte Sache. 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