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However, there is one thing i don't like about it and i want to change it. Its locos do not fit my network, so i want to change 2 locos 03:35:02 <VVG> eh 03:35:18 <VVG> 2 locos' max speed and power. How do i go about it? 03:35:47 <VVG> I decoded grf but can't seem to figure out what lines belong to which part of the set 03:36:17 <VVG> It all is just a whole bunch of nonsensical numbers to me. ( 03:50:15 *** Mist [mist@cm-84.210.63.9.getinternet.no] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:58:05 *** De_Ghosty [~s@76-10-150-72.dsl.teksavvy.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:07:17 *** De_Ghosty [~s@75-119-252-251.dsl.teksavvy.com] has joined #openttd 04:19:27 *** De_Ghosty [~s@75-119-252-251.dsl.teksavvy.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:19:45 *** De_Ghosty [~s@75-119-247-12.dsl.teksavvy.com] has joined #openttd 04:28:13 *** devilsadvocate [~devilsadv@202.3.77.231] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:33:36 <ccfreak2k> Eddi|zuHause, I find it easier to think of "start date" as "scheduled A date of the first stop. 04:33:50 <ccfreak2k> Even if that's the intention, it wasn't immediately obvious. 04:53:16 *** devilsadvocate [~devilsadv@202.3.77.231] has joined #openttd 04:56:03 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77339.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 04:56:23 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B776D3.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 05:14:09 <SmatZ> evening 05:34:27 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Administr@89.246.223.204] has joined #openttd 05:39:46 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Administr@89.246.207.126] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:41:10 <VVG> So, i decoded nfo, through trial and error found some need parts, switched values. Now buy vehicle gui shows the new values i put in, but vehicle still runs with old orinigal speed. I'm lost, i have no idea what to look for now. :( 05:44:34 <Rubidium> in the action2 blocks, but that's way way above your head 05:45:58 <Rubidium> action2 blocks = more or less the programming part of the nfo which allows you to write "code" to determine speed and such depending on other variables such as time 05:48:30 <andythenorth> VVG: which newgrf is this? 05:54:24 <VVG> canadian train set 1.0 05:55:25 <VVG> that more or less programing part is that much harder to figure out compared to other stuff? 05:57:59 <andythenorth> VVG: depends on whether speed is set by action 0 (easy) or action 2 (not easy) 05:58:22 <andythenorth> also, any vehicles you already have built won't change speed even if you change the newgrf speed 05:58:31 <andythenorth> what happens if you build a new vehicle? 06:04:30 <VVG> apparently it's action2 at work here, changing action 9 stuff only changes gui numbers 06:04:46 <VVG> s/ action 9 /action 0 06:05:14 <VVG> newly built vehicle with gui number for speed 230 runs at 120 06:24:15 <andythenorth> VVG: there's probably some action 2 handling callback 36 in that case 06:24:16 <andythenorth> http://wiki.ttdpatch.net/tiki-index.php?page=Callbacks#Change_vehicle_properties_36_ 06:24:48 <andythenorth> not sure why though, unless there are some special cases for speed for that vehicle 06:36:13 *** ^Spike^ [~spike@d200003.upc-d.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 06:37:28 *** luckz [~lkz@luckz.de] has joined #openttd 06:45:58 *** VVG [~sdfkhksd@85.249.0.43] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:47:18 *** VVG [~sdfkhksd@85.249.0.43] has joined #openttd 07:07:09 *** George [~George@212.113.107.39] has joined #openttd 07:07:47 *** George is now known as Guest1126 07:25:07 *** Zuu [Zuu@c-fdf2e655.510-8-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #openttd 07:34:45 *** fonsinchen [~fonsinche@brln-4dbaa2ec.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 07:43:35 *** fonsinchen [~fonsinche@brln-4dbaa2ec.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:45:17 *** George3 [~George@212.113.107.39] has joined #openttd 07:51:30 *** Guest1126 [~George@212.113.107.39] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:55:40 *** Kurimus [Kurimus@dsl-tkubrasgw1-fe34dc00-202.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #openttd 07:57:37 *** DDR [~chatzilla@d99-199-13-89.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:00:36 <kamil> re 08:01:09 <kamil> how to in ap+ log all - console, chat in game, rcon, etc... it possible? 08:01:32 <dihedral> erm - i think with the mysqldb 08:01:36 <dihedral> but i never used it 08:02:17 <Ammler> we simply pipe the console to a file 08:02:28 <Ammler> ./autopilot.tcl | tee gamelog 08:03:42 <kamil> Ammler: ok, possible log to db? 08:04:14 <Ammler> don't think so, that was a feature of old Autopilot, but only chat, afaik 08:04:16 <dihedral> it is possible to log to a db, if you use the mysql connection in ap+ 08:04:23 <dihedral> however, as i said i have never tried that myself 08:04:49 <Ammler> might be easy extendable... 08:04:50 <dihedral> you can pipe console output through tee and log to a file that way, yes 08:05:49 <kamil> yes, but whot i 'tee' ? program? can't find in my repository... 08:06:06 <dihedral> man tee 08:06:22 <Ammler> should be a kernel tool, iirc 08:06:22 <dihedral> tee is not covered by support for ap+ ;-) 08:06:52 <kamil> ok i see and my favorite var: --append :) 08:07:13 <dihedral> -a is only needed if you want to append to the logfile after multiple starts, e.g. 08:07:38 <dihedral> else, you could use a new logfile for each instance of ap+ 08:07:48 <dihedral> might keep the filesize down a little ^^ 08:07:53 <Ammler> hehe 08:10:24 *** theholyduck [~holyduck@87.80-202-130.nextgentel.com] has joined #openttd 08:10:50 <kamil> hmmm i can't use, screen, ap and tee... any hints? 08:10:58 <planetmaker> kamil: piping all ap+ output to a log file is easy enough. And quite convenient for easy checks 08:11:00 *** theholyduck [~holyduck@87.80-202-130.nextgentel.com] has quit [] 08:11:14 <planetmaker> kamil: my hint would be: learn to use it :-P 08:11:18 <dihedral> planetmaker: but then it's not in screen anymore is it? 08:11:24 <planetmaker> dihedral: of course 08:11:37 <planetmaker> dihedral: tee just allows double output 08:11:53 <dihedral> ./autopilot.tcl > /dev/null will give me no output at all 08:11:54 <planetmaker> autopilot.tcl load | tee -a > blub.log 08:12:00 <planetmaker> in screen 08:12:03 <planetmaker> that's what we do 08:12:04 <dihedral> you do not need > 08:12:10 <planetmaker> might be 08:12:19 <planetmaker> actually must be ;-) 08:12:23 <dihedral> tee automatically outputs to stdout if only one file is passed 08:12:34 <dihedral> else - as file will output to stdout 08:12:43 <dihedral> tee -a blub.log foo.bar - 08:12:45 <dihedral> ^^ 08:13:02 <dihedral> tee -a blub.log foo.bar - < /dev/random :-P 08:13:38 <kamil> if i run: screen ./autopilot.tcl | tee -a ./ap.log <- then not log to file... but if i run: screen and in screen ./autopilot.tcl | tee -a ./ap.log <- then log... 08:14:37 <planetmaker> kamil: first run screen of course 08:14:48 <dihedral> screen "./autopilot.tcl | tee -a ./ap.log" ? 08:14:49 <planetmaker> then in the screen's console run ap+ 08:15:05 <planetmaker> screen 08:15:13 <kamil> dihedral: i try... not work 08:15:16 <planetmaker> autopilot.tcl load | tee -a file.log 08:15:18 *** Zuu [Zuu@c-fdf2e655.510-8-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:15:20 <dihedral> did you read the man page? 08:15:31 *** Zuu [Zuu@c-fdf2e655.510-8-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #openttd 08:15:34 <planetmaker> kamil: "not work" is like "not tried" or "too bored" 08:15:59 <dihedral> kamil: then do the following 08:16:08 <kamil> planetmaker: i try before write question 08:16:12 <dihedral> echo "./autopilot.tcl | tee -a ap.log" > start.sh 08:16:16 <dihedral> chmod +x start.sh 08:16:17 *** Zuu_ [Zuu@c-fdf2e655.510-8-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #openttd 08:16:21 <planetmaker> kamil: but "not work" is no problem description whatsoever 08:16:21 <dihedral> screen start.sh 08:16:45 <dihedral> that at least was always my workaround if something did not work with the screen command as i wanted it to 08:17:03 <planetmaker> I mean... "It doesn't work to build a 50km high building. Can you help me please?" 08:17:16 <planetmaker> sounds not like that person can be helped ;-) 08:17:17 <dihedral> you could also try to escape the | 08:17:31 <planetmaker> but listen to dihedral :-) He's in a good mood right now 08:17:32 <kamil> dihedral: this is hint... planetmaker you not help... i please for hint :) 08:18:03 <planetmaker> kamil: I can't if I don't know what you mean with "doesn't work" 08:18:11 <planetmaker> My crystal ball is broken for 30 years already. 08:18:16 <planetmaker> And it doesn't work to fix it 08:18:46 <dihedral> kamil: you need to listen to planetmaker like eating fish! - you swallow the good stuff, and spit out everything else .... hmmm - i think this might sound a bit wierd :-D 08:18:59 <planetmaker> :-) fair enough, dihedral 08:19:16 <dihedral> well - is that not a rule that should apply to everyone on irc? :-P 08:19:49 <dihedral> i am reminded of that when looking at my /ignore list :-D 08:20:41 <dihedral> planetmaker: do you know how screen's -X option works? 08:21:23 <dihedral> i once considered using that to send stuff to a running screen session using cron, but never got that far as to understand how to use -X 08:22:01 <kamil> planetmaker: if you not help then please not answer... You needn't help... but if you can then please not this arrogance ;) 08:22:14 <dihedral> kamil: planetmaker aint that wrong 08:22:22 <dihedral> one cannot help if one does not understand the issue 08:22:30 <dihedral> "it does not work" does not describe an issue 08:23:06 <dihedral> and i'd refrain from calling long time channel members who have a history of being very helpful 'arrogant' ;-) 08:23:16 <dihedral> esp. if i were quite new to the irc channel 08:23:29 <dihedral> and esp if i were totaly unfamiliar with the OS i am wanting to use 08:23:35 *** Zuu [Zuu@c-fdf2e655.510-8-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:23:52 <dihedral> and seemingly the person, whom i just called arogant, knows way more than me regarding that OS - and not just regarding that OS 08:24:51 *** theholyduck [~holyduck@87.80-202-130.nextgentel.com] has joined #openttd 08:25:06 <dihedral> if we tell you to read a man page, in order for you to find help, then we expect you to read that man page! not because we want to tease you, but because it will help you not just with this issue but with future issues you might face regarding that OS. 08:26:53 <dihedral> kamil: you must note right now: YOU are the one with a problem - i can assure you, it's none of your damn issue! if you want help - take what you get 08:27:00 <Rubidium> i.e. we're trying to get you to look at the appropriate documentation instead of spoon feeding everything, or in other words: "do not give them fish but teach them how to catch fish" (ofcourse this statement doesn't help you at all with your problem at hand) 08:27:54 <kamil> dihedral: yes, but i'm please for a hint not resolve for my all problems... 'hint' !!! 08:27:55 <planetmaker> "give a man a fish and you'll feed him for a day. Teach this man to fish and you'll feed him for his whole life" :-) 08:28:20 <__ln__> with the voice of leonard nimoy 08:28:28 <dihedral> new channel request: #openttd.upbringing #openttd.kindergarden 08:28:40 <dihedral> kamil: take what you get 08:29:06 <dihedral> we do all this for NOTHING, so be thankful that people are at least about to answer your question 08:29:10 <Rubidium> dihedral: english please... it's kindergarten! :) 08:29:28 <dihedral> hehe Rubidium is doing an __ln__ :-D 08:29:28 <planetmaker> Rubidium: nope. In English it's kindergarden 08:29:35 <dihedral> HA! :-P 08:29:40 <dihedral> right back at you 08:29:48 <Rubidium> planetmaker: http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/kindergarden 08:29:49 <planetmaker> in German it's Kindergarten 08:30:13 <Rubidium> hmm... an English dictionary that redirects you to kindergarten 08:30:14 <kamil> dihedral: yes - thx for a help, but i have few question:)))) 08:30:18 <dihedral> well actually planetmaker, dict.leo.org sais its garten in EN and DE 08:30:38 <Rubidium> planetmaker: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kindergarden <- a wikipedia that redirects to kindergarten 08:30:52 <planetmaker> you're right. Learnt something new :-) 08:30:54 <Rubidium> would be quite compelling that it's not kindergarden 08:31:02 <dihedral> kamil: another lecture for you: if you are the person wanting stuff from people, you are not the one to make a huge amount of requests! 08:31:20 <dihedral> 10:30 < planetmaker> you're right. Learnt something new :-) <- me too ^^ 08:32:06 <Rubidium> even so that it's "apartheid" in German as well and not apartheit 08:32:41 <planetmaker> is it? 08:32:52 <planetmaker> I guess I've never written that word myself :-) 08:32:54 <Ammler> screen -X screen /home/ottdc/svn-play-is/autopilot/play.sh 08:33:15 <Rubidium> planetmaker: check the dictionary we used last week 08:35:11 <dihedral> Ammler: i assume the second 'screen' is the screen name? 08:35:39 <dihedral> oh - screen -X shell <shell command> :-) 08:35:51 <dihedral> oh - no 08:37:21 <Ammler> I have no idea anymore, I used that in my restart script as we had the memory leaks 08:37:32 <dihedral> ah :-) clever 08:37:49 <Ammler> but that is almost a year ago? 08:38:06 <dihedral> kamil: now that you have mentioned that you have some more questions - do feel free to ask :-P 08:38:40 <dihedral> planetmaker: do you code java by any chance? 08:38:57 <Ammler> I guess, the screen name was "play.sh" 08:39:31 <planetmaker> dihedral: not a single line 08:42:04 <dihedral> hmmpf - you bore ^^ 08:42:06 <dihedral> :-D 08:43:52 <kamil> dihedral: well... i rename file: on_game_join.example.tcl to on_game_join.tcl in: ~/ap+/autopilot/scripts/callback , restart ap+ and is not work if i join a game... whats wrong?:) 08:44:18 <kamil> not work: i'm not get mess from a server 08:47:08 <dihedral> hmm - i have heard of that one before, somewhere 08:47:42 <planetmaker> no message in the (screen) console or in IRC? 08:48:16 <dihedral> planetmaker: in the game i'd presume ^^ 08:48:20 <planetmaker> hm, yes 08:48:23 <kamil> planetmaker: no mess in console, irc, game 08:48:51 <planetmaker> maybe it's in the wrong dir? And did you restart ap+? 08:49:08 <planetmaker> (I don't know by heart ap+'s dir structure and its requirements) 08:49:08 <kamil> planetmaker: yes restart few time:) 08:49:39 <kamil> wrong dir? ~/ap+/autopilot/scripts/callback - autopilot.tcl in: ~/ap+/ 08:50:02 <dihedral> restart is not required, dir is correct 08:50:53 <kamil> dihedral: maybe wrong commands in: on_game_join.tcl ? first line: say::private "Welcome [who]" 08:51:18 <dihedral> which actually is correct, and you'd find a huge error if commands were wrong 08:52:35 <dihedral> not even a "*** [who] joined the game" on irc? 08:53:19 <kamil> no 08:53:22 *** pugi [~pugi@p4FCC67E8.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 08:53:58 <kamil> i can't see mess in irc, console and game if i join... 08:54:20 <dihedral> sure you are joining the right game? :-P 08:54:33 <kamil> dihedral: yes, i'm sure :))))))) 08:56:01 <kamil> if i join in game then i see console: '[2010-06-25 10:54:47] *** cyp doÅÄ czyÅ do gry (Klient #15)' <- sorry for locale 08:56:24 <kamil> but not see welcome mess :) 08:57:01 *** jpx_ [jpx_@a91-156-254-168.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [] 08:57:06 <dihedral> then that is your issue 08:57:13 <dihedral> ap+ is not localized ;-) 08:57:19 <dihedral> console language must be english 08:58:32 <dihedral> "maybe wrong command in the callback script" pff ;-) 08:59:23 <Rubidium> ah yes... blame me for that :) 08:59:37 <kamil> :) 08:59:44 <dihedral> yes, Rubidium! why on earth can OpenTTD handle so many languages, eh? 08:59:58 <Rubidium> because the NewGRF specs allow it! 09:00:09 <Rubidium> the 128th language will be a bitch 09:00:12 <planetmaker> pft 09:00:21 *** Devroush [~dennis@94-225-67-91.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 09:00:22 <planetmaker> and you keep adding more to that specs! 09:00:27 <planetmaker> :-) 09:02:12 <dihedral> ts ts 09:02:21 <dihedral> seriously, where do you think this would lead? 09:03:00 <dihedral> hehe - why not split servers ingame lang and servers console lang? :-D 09:03:01 <Rubidium> OpenTTD being used in Afghan schools to teach how to build an infrastructure? 09:03:09 <dihedral> HAHA 09:03:11 <dihedral> lol 09:03:28 <planetmaker> lol :-) 09:03:48 <kamil> :) 09:04:02 <pugi> i am not sure if teaching how priorities work is good :P 09:04:13 <dihedral> at least they'd have some :-P 09:04:35 <kamil> maybe i try: Avignon? ap+ VS Avignon = who much better? 09:05:19 *** einKarl [~einKarl@95-89-121-65-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #openttd 09:05:25 <dihedral> you struggle setting up ap+ (which is actually quite simple) and want to switch to avignon? 09:05:29 <dihedral> tehehe 09:05:40 <Rubidium> pugi: I bet it beats teaching how to "enrich" people with foreign matter 09:06:01 <pugi> :) 09:08:04 <kamil> dihedral: avignon i run before ap+... but i'm intresting ap+... i want compare 09:12:28 <dihedral> you want to tell me you had avignon running? 09:12:28 <Ammler> if you run Avignon successfully, no need to downgrade to ap+ :-) 09:12:45 <dihedral> well - if you are happy with wrighting plugins, you can use avignon ^^ 09:15:03 *** lugo [~lugo@mgdb-4db8d9d4.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 09:22:22 <dihedral> kamil: just one note though - i will not write those plugins for you, nor will i teach you tcl 09:23:35 <kamil> dihedral: yes i'm know... but if program not functionally then i wish ask, before writing code ;) 09:24:31 <Eddi|zuHause> strange... i keep on reading "kmail"... 09:24:48 <dihedral> :-D 09:26:54 <planetmaker> haha :-) 09:35:38 *** Zahl [~Zahl@g228091093.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 09:42:29 <dihedral> "ich-ka-Zucker" 09:43:45 *** devilsadvocate [~devilsadv@202.3.77.231] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:58:13 *** a1270 [~Cheese@72-24-233-98.cpe.cableone.net] has quit [Quit: a1270] 10:02:37 *** theholyduck [~holyduck@87.80-202-130.nextgentel.com] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 10:02:49 *** theholyduck [~holyduck@87.80-202-130.nextgentel.com] has joined #openttd 10:14:53 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.9.250.146] has joined #openttd 10:18:18 <Eddi|zuHause> hm... IKEA now builds server racks: http://www.sysadminslife.com/hardware/lackrack-billigstes-19-zoll-serverrack-made-by-ikea/ 10:20:16 *** theholyduck [~holyduck@87.80-202-130.nextgentel.com] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 10:23:16 *** a1270 [~Cheese@72-24-233-98.cpe.cableone.net] has joined #openttd 10:23:49 <Rubidium> "the airflow is unprecedented!" <- :) 10:23:51 <VVG> I gave up trying to figure out what callback points to exactly and used trial and error pared with search and replace to find exact line. Now the locos are running at the speed i want them to. 10:23:55 <VVG> :) 10:24:41 <peter1138> Eddi|zuHause, they've sold other products that are the right width before now as well 10:26:47 <Eddi|zuHause> http://wiki.eth-0.nl/index.php/LackRack <-- more information in less sane languages :p 10:27:39 <Eddi|zuHause> "IkeasprÃ¥k" :p 10:27:55 <peter1138> http://www.ikea.com/gb/en/search/?query=LACK :D 10:36:11 <dihedral> http://www.sysadminslife.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/Linux-Geeks-Chicks-Ladies.png 10:36:20 <dihedral> SFW 10:37:14 <peter1138> dihedral, but unix ladies are usually... well... 10:46:35 <Eddi|zuHause> oh... rain & thunderstorm 10:48:11 <Eddi|zuHause> really hard rain, really suddenly 10:51:08 <Eddi|zuHause> s/hard/frozen/ :p 10:51:31 <Rubidium> "they" are hailing you? 10:53:51 <planetmaker> hm... I'm looking for the traffic or driving side variable in the newgrf wiki... 10:54:02 <planetmaker> can someone point me to it and its meaning? 10:54:24 <planetmaker> http://wiki.ttdpatch.net/tiki-index.php?page=ReadingPatchVariables <-- not there 10:54:55 <planetmaker> nor here http://wiki.ttdpatch.net/tiki-index.php?page=ActionD 10:55:42 <planetmaker> nor here http://wiki.ttdpatch.net/tiki-index.php?page=TTDPatchFlags (or am I just missing it?) 10:56:16 <planetmaker> nml claims it's variable 86 - but I just don't find proof for it. And my newgrf doesn't respond to it 10:58:56 <planetmaker> it always assumes not 1 as returned value for variable 0x86 10:59:08 <planetmaker> s/assumes/returns/ 11:00:28 <Rubidium> planetmaker: do you test bit 4? 11:01:19 <Rubidium> it's basically the same as data fraction on varact2, but instead of 09 it's 06 11:02:14 *** ajmiles [~aj@78-86-188-187.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 11:02:30 <planetmaker> I don't test a specific bit so far. 11:03:36 <planetmaker> so it returns 0000 1000 or 0000 0000? 11:04:31 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1FCF5.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 11:05:20 <planetmaker> ah, now I found the docs: http://wiki.ttdpatch.net/tiki-index.php?page=Action7 11:14:49 <planetmaker> ha, that seems to do the trick. Thanks Rubidium 11:18:20 <planetmaker> hm... a change of the driving side on a running game is not communicated to the newgrfs 11:20:51 <Rubidium> you shouldn't change that in game anyways 11:20:58 <planetmaker> I know 11:21:19 <planetmaker> but I can ;-) 11:21:29 <planetmaker> without warning given 11:21:37 <andythenorth> how would that work :P 11:21:47 <andythenorth> I can only think 'kaboom' 11:21:48 <andythenorth> :) 11:21:50 <planetmaker> andythenorth: whole countries have done that 11:22:26 <Zuu_> But then it was forbidden to drive in 3 hours or so while they switched sides. 11:22:38 <planetmaker> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right-_and_left-hand_traffic#Samoa 11:38:35 *** Zuu_ [Zuu@c-fdf2e655.510-8-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:41:06 *** tokai [~tokai@port-92-195-30-7.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:43:47 *** tokai [~tokai@92.195.32.246] has joined #openttd 11:43:50 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 11:46:55 <Eddi|zuHause> i thought Sweden was one of the countries that switched driving side 12:00:19 <Rubidium> http://www.downloadroute.com/OpenTTD-OpenTTD-Team/awards.html <- even release candidates get awards for quality nowadays :) 12:01:23 <fjb> A release doesn't say anything about quality. :-) 12:01:32 *** TheMask96 [martijn@lust.vhost.ne2000.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:04:14 *** glx [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:8d78:2081:6961:c2b0] has joined #openttd 12:04:17 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 12:04:23 <ccfreak2k> Rubidium, this thing strikes me as automated. 12:04:28 <Rubidium> true, though awarding something to a release candidate sounds somewhat stupid 12:04:39 <ccfreak2k> I.e. someone plugs in a program and a version and it spits out the page. 12:04:42 <Rubidium> and yes, thus automatic-ish and not really an award 12:04:55 <Rubidium> anyhow... shopping time! 12:04:57 <ccfreak2k> "We are impressed by the OpenTTD quality..." 12:04:59 *** Fast2 [~Fast2@p57AF82F2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 12:05:07 <ccfreak2k> Maybe OpenTTD is redefining quality. 12:08:38 *** Singaporekid [~notme@cm110.epsilon84.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #openttd 12:11:32 *** TheMask96 [martijn@lust.vhost.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 12:15:19 *** heffer [~felix@static-87-78-98-150.netcologne.de] has joined #openttd 12:18:32 *** Zahl_ [~Zahl@f051235052.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 12:25:46 *** kamil [kamil@orchia.pl] has left #openttd [] 12:25:48 *** Zahl [~Zahl@g228091093.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:25:48 *** Zahl_ is now known as Zahl 12:27:11 *** kamil [kamil@orchia.pl] has joined #openttd 12:52:47 <Belugas> hello 12:54:51 <kamil> hi 12:55:08 <VVG> <ccfreak2k> Maybe OpenTTD is redefining quality. -> that sounds like a slogan 12:57:11 <dihedral> <deep_voice_with_typical_movie_pronounciation> Quality has now been redefined! OpenTTD - out NOW!</deep_voice_with_typical_movie_pronounciation> 13:03:35 *** Lakie [~Lakie@91.84.251.149] has joined #openttd 13:06:14 <fjb> Moin Belugas 13:06:37 <Belugas> fjb! 13:16:18 *** Zuu_ [Zuu@c-fdf2e655.510-8-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #openttd 13:21:34 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@188.123.106.105] has joined #openttd 13:21:38 <andythenorth> dihedral: OpenTTD - out when it's done :P 13:21:45 <andythenorth> is it done yet? 13:21:51 * andythenorth afk 13:22:04 * andythenorth is going for a ride in the truck 13:24:36 *** APTX [~APTX@chello089076052083.chello.pl] has quit [Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.] 13:25:23 *** APTX [~APTX@chello089076052083.chello.pl] has joined #openttd 13:27:13 *** pugi [~pugi@p4FCC67E8.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:27:39 <andythenorth> this is the truck in question :P 13:27:39 <andythenorth> http://in100252007.trustpass.alibaba.com/productshowimg/103484431-100706845/Bajaj_GC_1000_tricycle.html 13:28:09 <dihedral> that is not a truck 13:28:18 <dihedral> that is a slightly motorized shoppingcart 13:28:43 <glx> a tricycle :) 13:28:56 <andythenorth> 475kg load. it's a truck 13:28:59 <andythenorth> or a truck-truck 13:29:19 *** pugi [~pugi@p4FCC67E8.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 13:29:33 *** andythenorth is now known as andythenorth_afk 13:40:25 *** bryjen [~bryjen@63.147.94.149] has joined #openttd 13:49:51 <dihedral> 475kg load and what, .5hp? lol 13:49:57 <ccfreak2k> Truckcycle. 13:51:00 <dihedral> http://www.newlaunches.com/entry_images/0308/03/jet_turbine_van_1.jpg <- hehe 13:52:19 <Sacro> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrfpnbGXL70 even 13:52:34 <Sacro> you all should watch, best youtube videoi've sen in a while 13:55:31 *** mecool [mecool@94.128.37.99] has joined #openttd 14:15:32 *** mecool is now known as MeCooL 14:16:24 *** SirSquidness [~sirsquidn@au.dongues.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:24:52 *** Timmaexx [~quassel@port-92-192-181-123.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 14:27:32 <andythenorth_afk> dihedral: more like 8.5hp :P 14:27:40 <andythenorth_afk> 412cc single cylinder diesel 14:34:18 *** Chruker [~no@port113.ds1-vj.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 14:42:48 *** andythenorth_afk is now known as andythenorth 14:44:43 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B776D3.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:45:13 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B776D3.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 14:45:40 *** Timmaexx [~quassel@port-92-192-181-123.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:49:47 *** Grelouk [~Grelouk@93.26.203.153] has joined #openttd 14:50:30 *** Coco-Banana-Man [~Stephan.D@p5B2D98C5.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 15:19:30 *** Dreamxtreme [~Dreamxtre@92.8.98.253] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:22:41 *** Dreamxtreme [~Dreamxtre@92.8.98.253] has joined #openttd 15:25:53 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@94-224-31-113.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 15:27:54 *** APTX_ [~APTX@chello089076052083.chello.pl] has joined #openttd 15:29:55 *** APTX [~APTX@chello089076052083.chello.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:32:05 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 15:35:39 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [~johekr@p54B77790.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 15:38:00 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B776D3.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:58:06 *** Eddi|zuHause2 is now known as Eddi|zuHause 16:08:11 <PeterT> Zuu_: I liked your old avatar 16:09:27 *** lusted_gay [~lusted@static227-176.mimer.net] has joined #openttd 16:09:37 <lusted_gay> quick question: possible to remove a AI, already ingame? 16:09:44 <PeterT> yes 16:09:54 <PeterT> type 'help stop_ai' in console 16:10:11 <lusted_gay> oh, didnt evne know there was a console, awesome 16:10:13 <Rubidium> 1) set number AIs to 0 via difficulty settings, 2) with stop_ai stop/kill all AIs 16:10:45 <lusted_gay> Brilliant, thank you. 16:10:51 <lusted_gay> what happend to their stations etc? perished? 16:10:58 <lusted_gay> what will* 16:11:09 <Rubidium> they'll magically disappear 16:11:16 <lusted_gay> amazing. 16:11:19 <Rubidium> roads will stay, but will be owned by nobody 16:11:23 <lusted_gay> Thank you for your fast replies. Much appreciated 16:13:13 <Rubidium> you're welcome 16:15:51 <lusted_gay> Well, since im here anyways, are there any sensable way to build routes on aircrafts? for instance top-to-bottom, map wise? 16:16:06 <PeterT> longest distance possible 16:16:13 <PeterT> use the aircraft with the most capacity 16:16:18 <PeterT> Full load any cargo 16:16:30 <PeterT> and, err...station walk the whole city 16:16:38 <lusted_gay> station walk? 16:16:51 <lusted_gay> here i was with the philosophy that small\fast trips would be the best 16:18:51 <PeterT> lusted_gay: Ctrl + Click Station 16:18:54 <PeterT> to station walk 16:19:32 <lusted_gay> gives me the standard waiting, accepts etc 16:19:41 *** TheMask96 [martijn@lust.vhost.ne2000.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:19:44 <lusted_gay> "station walk" term was new to me, then agian most of this is. 16:19:58 <Belugas> PeterT, i had that "philosophy" myself for a while, when i started playin OpenTTD 16:20:20 <PeterT> Belugas: and now you dont? 16:21:32 *** Fast2 [~Fast2@p57AF82F2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:22:30 <Belugas> well... it's a bit different... i still like to make small trips, but it's more about making scenes for my son, where he can watch the trains coming in and out ot the stations :) 16:23:13 <planetmaker> Belugas: but then it's convenient to start with one long-distance air route. It gives you all the money you need to get started ;-) 16:23:30 <PeterT> Belugas, :-D 16:24:31 <Belugas> totally true, planetmaker. except that when playing to entertain my son, money is like my real last worry ;) 16:24:36 <Belugas> not enough? ok, cheat! 16:24:58 <Rubidium> just use a debug build... then it's just one hotkey away 16:25:26 <planetmaker> Belugas: yeah, but once you got ~3 planes and two airports you don't even have to cheat. 16:25:29 <Belugas> is it? nice... 16:25:33 *** TheMask96 [martijn@envy.vhost.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 16:25:49 <Belugas> True planetmaker, very true 16:27:43 *** fonsinchen [~fonsinche@brln-4dbaa2ec.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 16:29:11 <fjb> Hm, a Zeppelin cross the map actually loses money. 16:29:59 <andythenorth> Belugas: you should include some trucks for him. it's unfair to only include trains :P 16:30:12 <Belugas> oh we do! 16:30:24 <Belugas> especially in toyland :) 16:30:39 * andythenorth shudders 16:30:49 * andythenorth contemplates something 16:31:18 * andythenorth wonders if Lego Group would sponsor an official remake of toyland to brickland 16:32:48 <fjb> Oh no... 16:44:00 <Alberth> Belugas: your son is also a fan of toyland? good! 16:45:10 <Belugas> yeah he is :) I think it's more about the noises and the funny looking industries and stuff like that 16:45:15 <Belugas> he loves the bubbles ;) 16:46:58 * planetmaker loves the bubbles, too :-) 16:47:10 <planetmaker> and the sugar mine 16:48:30 * Rubidium likes presents :) 16:50:54 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590ff1b5.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 16:53:51 <Eddi|zuHause> oh no. someone in the village has found a vuvuzela 16:54:30 <Eddi|zuHause> <fjb> Hm, a Zeppelin cross the map actually loses money. <-- on 1/4 plane speed? 16:55:03 <fjb> My neighbours have Vuvuzelas... 16:55:22 <fjb> Eddi|zuHause: No, on 1/1 speed. 16:55:34 <Rubidium> Eddi|zuHause: why do you think I fled the country last saturday? 16:55:57 *** VVG [~sdfkhksd@85.249.0.43] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:00:14 * fjb thought it was because the cake. 17:12:04 *** VVG [~sdfkhksd@85.249.0.43] has joined #openttd 17:12:21 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host226-233-dynamic.9-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 17:12:45 <Wolf01> hi 17:13:47 <Wolf01> :( 17:15:01 <fjb> Moin Wolf01 17:15:05 <Wolf01> :D 17:17:28 <PeterT> hai Wolf01 17:17:35 <Wolf01> :D 17:17:43 <andythenorth> :P 17:26:02 *** pugi [~pugi@p4FCC67E8.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:26:59 *** pugi [~pugi@p4FCC6223.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 17:27:37 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@188.123.106.105] has quit [Quit: Quit] 17:30:31 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@188.123.106.105] has joined #openttd 17:35:04 *** DrRetro [~ontario@d221-94-161.commercial.cgocable.net] has joined #openttd 17:35:17 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@94-224-31-113.access.telenet.be] has quit [Quit: oO] 17:45:29 <CIA-9> OpenTTD: translators * r20018 /trunk/src/lang/irish.txt: 17:45:29 <CIA-9> OpenTTD: -Update from WebTranslator v3.0: 17:45:29 <CIA-9> OpenTTD: irish - 52 changes by tem 17:54:58 *** PeterT_ [PeterT-EF@c-65-96-205-200.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 17:55:26 *** PeterT_ [PeterT-EF@c-65-96-205-200.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has left #openttd [] 17:56:53 *** VVG [~sdfkhksd@85.249.0.43] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:58:37 *** PeterT` [Peter@c-65-96-205-200.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 17:58:45 *** VVG [~sdfkhksd@85.249.0.43] has joined #openttd 17:59:15 *** PeterT` [Peter@c-65-96-205-200.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has left #openttd [] 18:03:18 *** Polygon [~Poly@x0581b.wh7.tu-dresden.de] has joined #openttd 18:24:02 *** devilsadvocate [~devilsadv@202.3.77.231] has joined #openttd 18:30:19 *** ajmiles2 [~aj@78-86-188-187.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 18:30:19 *** ajmiles [~aj@78-86-188-187.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:30:19 <ajmiles2> ck 18:30:25 <ajmiles2> ignore that 18:32:35 *** Singaporekid [~notme@cm110.epsilon84.maxonline.com.sg] has quit [Quit: sekacnap] 18:44:28 *** DDR [~chatzilla@d99-199-13-89.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #openttd 18:45:17 *** einKarl [~einKarl@95-89-121-65-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:45:24 <Zuu_> PeterT: I had it for like 5 years and though it could be time for a change. 18:51:32 *** tokai [~tokai@92.195.32.246] has quit [Quit: c('~' )o] 18:51:52 *** tokai [~tokai@port-92-195-32-246.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 18:51:55 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 18:56:41 <andythenorth> does anyone here actually play the game any more? 18:56:56 <PeterT> not really 18:56:59 <PeterT> I host servers 18:59:17 <frosch123> did you just notice, that the game is actually crap? :p 19:00:04 <Belugas> the game plays itself, we're just watching it gong :D 19:01:32 <Alberth> we only need to add a routine that loads a random save game :p 19:02:14 <Belugas> hehehe right :D 19:03:27 <frosch123> yeah, since the intro window is movable there is a better view on the game 19:04:37 <Alberth> I am still wondering why that did not work previously 19:04:59 <Alberth> I cannot remember removing that explicitly 19:05:20 <SpComb> andythenorth: not every day, but occasionally, I think 19:05:27 * andythenorth doesn't 19:05:31 <andythenorth> well mostly 19:05:33 <peter1138> you just lost the game? 19:05:45 <peter1138> PeterT, do you drum? 19:05:53 <PeterT> peter1138: no 19:06:14 <SpComb> peter1138: pyro 19:06:23 * andythenorth just lost the game 19:06:29 <andythenorth> the game is fricking stupid 19:07:22 <Wolf01> [20:56:47] <andythenorth> does anyone here actually play the game any more? -> me... @work in lunch time :D 19:07:59 <Alberth> playing a single game takes something like a month then? 19:08:00 <PeterT> andythenorth: you meant the game? 19:08:08 <PeterT> I thought you meant OpenTTD :p 19:08:18 <PeterT> or did you.. 19:09:40 <Wolf01> About 2 years this one... 19:09:49 <andythenorth> PeterT: I did 19:10:01 <andythenorth> what other game is there? apart from The game? 19:10:08 <PeterT> The Game, yes 19:10:20 <PeterT> since <peter1138> you just lost the game? 19:10:51 * andythenorth is "only in it for the whuffie" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whuffie 19:12:32 * fjb ist playing. 19:14:00 * andythenorth is updating documentation 19:14:00 *** Illegal_Alien [~Illegal_A@ip4da39612.direct-adsl.nl] has joined #openttd 19:14:03 <andythenorth> and making kebabs 19:14:15 <SpComb> kebap 19:15:46 <frosch123> Alberth: it looks like 0.7 start dragging a window when clicking widget no 1. in the intro gui the caption is widget no. 0 though as there is no closebox 19:16:01 <frosch123> though i have no idea, why you cannot drag it by clicking on the panel... 19:16:41 <Wolf01> implement alt+click to drag every guy from every position... like on linux :D 19:17:12 <Alberth> frosch123: ah, that could be the case yes, I remember seeing hard-coded numbers for certain widgets. 19:17:42 <Alberth> dragging still only works from the title bar 19:17:52 <Alberth> that has not changed :) 19:18:15 <frosch123> the difficulty window is quite hacky in 0.7 .) 19:18:48 <Alberth> then you didn't see the main toolbar window :) 19:19:05 <frosch123> it does not show a closebox, but as widget 0 has to be the closebox, the closebox is hidden, and the titlebar is extended 19:19:31 <Alberth> those were the days :p 19:21:15 *** bryjen [~bryjen@63.147.94.149] has quit [Quit: Quit] 19:23:04 *** KritiK [~Maxim@95-26-116-165.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 19:26:33 <frosch123> actually i was wrong, it was controlled by WDF_STD_BTN flag 19:29:00 *** bryjen [~bryjen@63.147.94.149] has joined #openttd 19:33:53 <Belugas> # SPREADING THE DISEASE! 19:39:37 <fjb> Hatschi. 19:40:06 <Alberth> gesundheit 19:40:30 <fjb> danke. 19:41:56 <Belugas> hehe 19:42:09 <Belugas> A Vos Souhaits! 19:44:06 <Rubidium> how formal :) 19:47:13 <fjb> Merci! 19:54:51 *** fonsinchen [~fonsinche@brln-4dbaa2ec.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:03:10 * andythenorth thinks about playing the game 20:03:24 * andythenorth thinks about fixing industry closure first :P 20:13:21 *** VVG [~sdfkhksd@85.249.0.43] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:14:14 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #openttd [] 20:21:17 <Ammler> :'-( 20:21:55 <PeterT> sorry ammler 20:22:00 <PeterT> the swiss didn't make it :( 20:22:13 <Ammler> was a bad game anyway 20:22:24 <Ammler> wouldn't be worth to play longer 20:22:36 <PeterT> yeah, they both sucked equally 20:31:29 <Belugas> 0 0 after 75 minutes is a bit... bad 20:34:33 <frosch123> i see, you are a true fan of soccer :p 20:37:07 <Belugas> hem.. not a die hard fan, nor did i checked the match, honestly 20:37:44 <frosch123> well, but they play 90 minutes :) 20:37:46 <Belugas> i watch the Italy- Slovaky one, though. Loved it, second half that is... 20:38:07 <Rubidium> I loved the second Dutch game 20:38:18 *** DrRetro [~ontario@d221-94-161.commercial.cgocable.net] has quit [] 20:38:36 <frosch123> correction - they play until the referee whistles 20:38:51 <andythenorth> hmm 20:39:10 <andythenorth> a ship service isn't going to cause a town to grow much is it (one dock covers the whole town) 20:45:12 <Terkhen> hello 20:45:40 *** Muxy [~Muxy@main.goulp.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:46:15 <fjb> andythenorth: Make 5 docks. 20:46:16 *** Muxy [~Muxy@main.goulp.net] has joined #openttd 20:46:22 <Rubidium> ohhai Terkhen, welcome "back" 20:46:23 <fjb> Moin Terkhen 20:47:02 <andythenorth> hi Terkhen 20:49:21 <Terkhen> I decided to stop my studying / killing stress routine for a bit :) 20:50:47 * Belugas kills stress right now... he quits the office for the weekend! 20:50:52 <Belugas> bye bye :D 20:51:28 <Rubidium> happy weekending Belugas 20:51:51 <Terkhen> see you Belugas 20:52:49 <frosch123> there is really nothing special about the change company colour command... 20:52:59 *** Fast2 [~Fast2@p57AF82F2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 20:53:06 <PeterT> frosch123: there is such a command? 20:53:16 <PeterT> have fun, Belugas 20:54:00 <fjb> Bye Belugas 21:03:17 <frosch123> night 21:03:32 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590ff1b5.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:11:47 <Wolf01> 'night 21:11:57 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host226-233-dynamic.9-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 21:14:27 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@188.123.106.105] has quit [Quit: Quit] 21:15:05 *** asnoehu [~thok@cc64025-c.hnglo1.ov.home.nl] has joined #openttd 21:17:55 *** George [~George@212.113.107.39] has joined #openttd 21:18:27 *** George is now known as Guest1185 21:19:37 *** Fast2_ [~Fast2@p57AF9FDB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 21:21:29 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@188.123.106.105] has joined #openttd 21:21:32 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1FCF5.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:22:10 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [~johekr@p54B752BB.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 21:24:22 *** George3 [~George@212.113.107.39] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:25:30 *** Fast2 [~Fast2@p57AF82F2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:25:34 *** Fast2_ is now known as Fast2 21:26:32 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77790.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:32:48 *** Eddi|zuHause2 is now known as Eddi|zuHause 21:33:01 *** Fast2_ [~Fast2@p57AF9C60.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 21:38:21 <Eddi|zuHause> http://www.tt-ms.de/forum/attachment.php?aid=2627 <-- this is probably one of the most useless station entries i have ever seen... 21:38:33 *** Fast2 [~Fast2@p57AF9FDB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:38:39 *** Fast2_ is now known as Fast2 21:45:14 <fjb> But it is big. 21:48:02 <Sacro> not what she said 21:50:17 <Rubidium> Eddi|zuHause: looks like fine tt-ms quality 21:51:42 *** Polygon [~Poly@x0581b.wh7.tu-dresden.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:52:46 <fjb> Why do you still read the German forum? 21:53:14 <Eddi|zuHause> maybe i'm masochistic... 21:54:21 <fjb> You definitely are. 21:55:08 <Xaroth_> definitely not optimal :P 21:55:50 <Xaroth_> also, not symetrical :P 21:58:05 <SpComb> they don't need to worry about cash capital 21:58:07 <SpComb> or terrain 21:58:16 <SpComb> or towns 22:01:19 *** Grelouk [~Grelouk@93.26.203.153] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:02:20 *** centaur [bsftgb@cpc2-hawk1-0-0-cust412.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 22:03:57 <centaur> hey i'm getting pink coloration when applying certain water-based newGRFs, toggling its palette seems to do the trick in single player mode (it seems it does not matter which initial configuration it's in), but unfortunately one is unable to toggle palette in multiplayer mode and is left with pink water regions, is there any way i can fix this please? 22:05:29 * andythenorth wonders when to bump the FIRS grfid 22:05:32 <Eddi|zuHause> you can change the default palette with the -i command line parameter 22:06:00 <andythenorth> I think a bump is better just before a release. Breaks nightlies though :) 22:06:50 <Eddi|zuHause> you could have a special GRF-ID for nightlies, and for each release you choose a new ID, and then go back to the nightly one 22:07:38 <centaur> Eddi|zuHause, this is for two newGRFs only though, michael blunck's river 0.1.13.06.07 and new water 0.7, so wouldn't doing a '-i 1' switch palette for all GRFs at start and mess up the rest? :/ 22:07:57 <centaur> s/and/ 22:08:09 <Eddi|zuHause> centaur: then just download the correct version of these grfs? 22:09:52 <centaur> well i'm using windows-based grf for all of them, being on intel, and it's working fine 22:09:57 <centaur> except for these two 22:10:04 <centaur> also there's no dos version of this i don't think 22:10:14 *** Smoovious [~imp586@75-12-89-18.lightspeed.wyngmi.sbcglobal.net] has joined #openttd 22:10:54 *** bryjen [~bryjen@63.147.94.149] has quit [Quit: Quit] 22:10:59 <Eddi|zuHause> that would be very surprising for MB to not release a dos version 22:13:22 <centaur> yeah i'm pretty sure there must be one lying around, unfortunately his page ttdpatch.de disappeared off the web, and i've only managed to procure the riversw.grf version 22:16:22 *** Lakie [~Lakie@91.84.251.149] has quit [Quit: Sleep.] 22:16:35 <Eddi|zuHause> the grfs are definitely around somewhere... 22:17:33 <centaur> http://grfcrawler.tt-forums.net/details.php?do=details&id=286 22:17:42 *** MeCooL [mecool@94.128.37.99] has quit [] 22:17:55 <centaur> it tells you the dos version as being rivers.grf but the download only provides one with riversw.grf :/ 22:18:12 <Terkhen> good night 22:19:29 <andythenorth> grr 22:19:42 <andythenorth> mass industry closure strikes my nice new game :| 22:19:48 <andythenorth> I should really code that out :( 22:20:41 *** theholyduck [~holyduck@87.80-202-130.nextgentel.com] has joined #openttd 22:23:02 <centaur> wahey i got it to work, by toggling it a few more times in the scenario editor 22:23:07 <centaur> thanks all the same, Eddi|zuHause 22:23:10 <centaur> much appreciated 22:23:13 *** centaur [bsftgb@cpc2-hawk1-0-0-cust412.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has left #openttd [] 22:29:40 <andythenorth> secondary industry closure....I'll find that in industry_cmd.cpp right? 22:30:11 <Rubidium> where else would you expect them? In train_cmd.cpp? 22:30:30 <andythenorth> :) 22:30:48 <Rubidium> oh yes... I'm kinda bored 22:32:55 <andythenorth> changing 5 to 15 here looks like a worthwhile personal hack: 22:32:56 <andythenorth> if ( (byte)(_cur_year - i->last_prod_year) >= 55 && Chance16(1, smooth_economy ? 180 : 2)) { 22:33:01 <andythenorth> hmm 22:33:08 <andythenorth> too many 5s :P 22:33:35 <andythenorth> seems I hit a 5 before I copied :o 22:33:47 <andythenorth> perhaps it's time to sleep :P 22:33:50 *** Zuu_ [Zuu@c-fdf2e655.510-8-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:35:19 <andythenorth> Rubidium: bored enough to improve industry closure in trunk? 22:35:36 <andythenorth> it's kind of sucky to fix it in newgrf 22:36:06 <Rubidium> I dislike touching the economy... too much people complain about those changes 22:37:44 <andythenorth> too many people complain about secondary industry mass extinction after 5 years :) 22:38:02 <andythenorth> frosch did have something to improve it 22:38:03 * Rubidium blames Tron for that 22:42:11 *** SirSquidness [~sirsquidn@au.dongues.com] has joined #openttd 22:46:49 *** Illegal_Alien [~Illegal_A@ip4da39612.direct-adsl.nl] has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Like it? Visit #hydrairc on EFNet] 22:57:22 *** theholyduck [~holyduck@87.80-202-130.nextgentel.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:59:49 *** Coco-Banana-Man [~Stephan.D@p5B2D98C5.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Regel Nr. 1: Jeder hört auf mein Kommando! - Regel Nr. 2: Jeder bleibt auf dem Weg! - Regel Nr. 3: ... ... Der, der blÀht, als hinterster geht!] 23:01:52 <lusted_gay> possible to replace railroad to eletric rails? or do i have to rebuild? 23:02:15 *** ^Spike^ [~spike@d200003.upc-d.chello.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:02:23 <fjb> There is a replacing tool. 23:02:34 <lusted_gay> aye? 23:03:08 <fjb> Select the electric rail toolbar. Chose the rightmost button. 23:03:11 <Eddi|zuHause> the rightmost button in the electric rail toolbar 23:03:14 <lusted_gay> oh 23:03:26 <lusted_gay> can i just mark half the map and it will take whatever "needed" ? 23:03:35 <fjb> Yes 23:04:10 <lusted_gay> thanks guys 23:05:30 *** Fast2 [~Fast2@p57AF9C60.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:06:13 *** Devroush [~dennis@94-225-67-91.access.telenet.be] has quit [] 23:08:28 *** llugo [~lugo@mgdb-4db8d686.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 23:08:43 <Eddi|zuHause> ... something was odd... my external drive suddenly got detected as 128GiB instead of 1000GB 23:10:15 <glx> bios maybe, but as it's external probably not 23:11:08 <Eddi|zuHause> i unplugged it from usb, and reconnected it, now it shows fine 23:12:20 *** Zahl [~Zahl@f051235052.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Quit: *schiel*] 23:15:35 *** lugo [~lugo@mgdb-4db8d9d4.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:17:23 *** lllugo [~lugo@mgdb-4db8c27c.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 23:21:39 *** lugo [~lugo@mgdb-4db8d0ab.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 23:24:33 *** llugo [~lugo@mgdb-4db8d686.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:25:01 *** llugo [~lugo@mgdb-4db8c74d.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 23:27:19 *** pugi [~pugi@p4FCC6223.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: ALL YOUR BASE ARE BELONG TO US!] 23:28:10 *** lllugo [~lugo@mgdb-4db8c27c.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:28:36 *** lllugo [~lugo@mgdb-4db8d3ae.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 23:31:40 *** lugo [~lugo@mgdb-4db8d0ab.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:31:46 *** lugo [~lugo@mgdb-4db8cfe5.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 23:32:10 *** bryjen [~bryjen@75.81.201.131] has joined #openttd 23:33:19 <andythenorth> hmm 23:33:25 <andythenorth> docks on canals would be nice 23:33:33 <andythenorth> so would a pony 23:33:40 <FauxFaux> Pony. \o/ 23:35:10 *** llugo [~lugo@mgdb-4db8c74d.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:35:16 *** llugo [~lugo@mgdb-4db8c929.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 23:38:07 *** lllugo [~lugo@mgdb-4db8d3ae.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:38:48 *** lllugo [~lugo@mgdb-4db8de5f.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 23:41:40 *** lugo [~lugo@mgdb-4db8cfe5.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:42:15 *** lugo [~lugo@mgdb-4db8c64b.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 23:45:10 *** llugo [~lugo@mgdb-4db8c929.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:46:39 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.9.250.146] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.3.2] 23:48:45 *** lllugo [~lugo@mgdb-4db8de5f.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:50:03 *** fjb [~frank@p5485FFDD.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:52:11 *** lugo [~lugo@mgdb-4db8c64b.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:53:30 *** fjb [~frank@p5485FFDD.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd