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Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org] 12:33:55 *** pugi [~pugi@dyndsl-091-096-060-209.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has joined #openttd 12:41:28 *** DOUK [~KEM@ALyon-158-1-39-179.w90-29.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #openttd 12:46:13 *** mahmoud [~KEM@ALyon-158-1-87-88.w90-29.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:10:35 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1B785.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:14:24 <NGC3982> in ECS basic vector, the glass works doesnt seem to have anywhere to export glass 13:14:33 <NGC3982> does any industry accept it, or is it a town shop? 13:14:48 <NGC3982> google (and a forum post) tells me the normal factory should accept it, but it doesnt seem to. 13:15:05 <Alberth> the last time I looked, there is a car factory that accepts glass 13:15:27 <Wolf01> the furniture factory should accept it, but it might be from an old version 13:15:45 <Alberth> but ECS has wiki pages http://www.tt-wiki.net/wiki/ECS_Vectors 13:22:41 *** Chris_Booth [~chatzilla@host81-152-250-188.range81-152.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:25:05 *** Mazur [~mazur@546984B2.cm-12-2c.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:28:02 *** Mazur [~mazur@546984B2.cm-12-2c.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 13:35:57 <NGC3982> ah, i only had the basic vector 13:36:18 <NGC3982> hm, one of my lan clients is getting constant 'processing map took too long" 14:13:29 <frosch123> i wonder how many arabic and hebrew players we have 14:13:52 <frosch123> in some parts the rtl stuff really does not work 14:16:40 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@88.130.170.28] has joined #openttd 14:18:50 <Eddi|zuHause> i presume many of those play in english 14:22:01 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@88.130.161.64] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:22:14 <CIA-8> OpenTTD: frosch * r24351 /trunk/src/depot_gui.cpp: -Fix: Short vehicles were not properly positioned at the cursor when dragging for RTL languages. 14:22:30 <CIA-8> OpenTTD: frosch * r24352 /trunk/src/train_gui.cpp: -Fix: When highlighting the drop position for vehicles in depots, make space for all articulated parts. 14:28:23 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@d5153E8CC.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 14:29:17 *** LordAro [~LordAro@host81-148-242-89.range81-148.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 14:30:12 <LordAro> howdy 14:32:50 *** roadt [~roadt@114.96.128.238] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:34:15 *** Rhamphoryncus [~rhamph@d161-184-227-133.abhsia.telus.net] has joined #openttd 14:37:51 *** ben1066 [~quassel@2a00:dcc0:eda:89:14:179:e28f:960d] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:40:10 *** TWerkhoven[l] [~twerkhove@cpc3-linl7-2-0-cust522.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 14:44:53 <Terkhen> hi LordAro 14:45:07 <LordAro> hi Terkhen (again) 14:46:48 *** ben1066 [~quassel@2a00:dcc0:eda:89:14:179:e28f:960d] has joined #openttd 14:46:52 *** ben1066 [~quassel@2a00:dcc0:eda:89:14:179:e28f:960d] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:47:23 *** ben1066 [~quassel@2a00:dcc0:eda:89:14:179:e28f:960d] has joined #openttd 14:52:16 <CIA-8> OpenTTD: michi_cc * r24353 /trunk/src/script/api/script_order.cpp: -Fix [FS#5215] (r23506): [NoAI] A TileIndex isn't a station id, so don't use it as one. 15:10:50 <NGC3982> using the ECS industry vectors, we noticed our company value is stuck at . how's that? 15:11:01 <NGC3982> it doesnt seem to be different without the grfs 15:12:03 <Alberth> afaik it means your company is too young to be rated a value 15:12:05 <frosch123> is the minimum value of a company 15:12:13 <Alberth> but I don't know the details 15:12:17 <frosch123> so, it actually means your value is negative :) 15:12:37 <Alberth> ah, thanks frosch123 15:12:41 <NGC3982> ah, thank you 15:12:46 <NGC3982> is this recently changed+ 15:12:53 <frosch123> no 15:13:01 <LordAro> i've always thought it should display something other than "{CURRENCY}1" when this is the case 15:13:07 <frosch123> newgrfs have no effect on the company value btw. 15:13:21 <frosch123> LordAro: it's a symbolic price 15:13:48 <frosch123> at least here it is common to purchase stuff for 1 currency when it is actually not worth anything 15:14:04 <LordAro> perhaps 15:14:14 <frosch123> just to represent the moment when the ownership changes 15:14:39 <LordAro> a "Not yet able to be valued" or something would perhaps be more useful though 15:14:54 <frosch123> it has nothing to do with the age 15:15:06 <Alberth> apparently "bancrupt" is the best notion in such a case :p 15:15:13 <frosch123> you can also bankrupt after 100 years 15:17:13 <CIA-8> OpenTTD: frosch * r24354 /trunk/src/station_cmd.cpp: -Fix: When airport construction was denied due to noise, the error message named the wrong town. 15:17:52 <Alberth> lol :) 15:18:36 <Alberth> this means nobody plays with airport noise? :) 15:19:05 <Eddi|zuHause> since when was the town mentioned in the first place? 15:19:08 <frosch123> iirc there were some complains from ai authors about the error being confusing 15:20:07 <frosch123> STR_ERROR_LOCAL_AUTHORITY_REFUSES_NOISE :{WHITE}{TOWN} local authority refuses permission for airport due to noise concerns 15:26:18 *** jgh [~ashfasdf@cpc2-sgyl36-2-0-cust717.18-2.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 15:26:51 <jgh> hi, does anyone know which version of openttd chill's patchback is based on? 15:27:21 <Alberth> 1.0.5 iirc 15:27:35 <jgh> cheers 15:27:56 <Eddi|zuHause> depends on what "based on" means 15:28:29 <jgh> well for my purposes it means "if i edit a savegame in this version of vanilla openttd is it likely to work with chillpp" i guess 15:29:09 <Eddi|zuHause> yes, then you need 1.0.x it won't work with 1.1.x or 1.2.x 15:29:44 <jgh> cool thanks 15:35:40 <jgh> aaagh where do i download old openttd versions lol 15:38:13 <LordAro> http://binaries.openttd.org 15:43:25 <Eddi|zuHause> that doesn't seem to be on the links page 15:44:50 <Alberth> TrueBrain: ^^ more missing sites :) 15:46:12 <CIA-8> OpenTTD: frosch * r24355 /trunk/src/station_cmd.cpp: -Codechange [FS#5217]: Deduplicate code when building stations. (Hirundo) 15:51:33 *** KritiK [~Maxim@93-80-176-36.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 15:52:35 *** mal2 [~mal2@port-92-206-64-133.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:55:06 *** FLHerne [~francis_h@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has joined #openttd 15:57:22 <LordAro> i know it off by heart - i just typed it out :) 15:57:58 <Alberth> ok, what is the game script site? 15:58:25 <frosch123> the api, or bananas? 15:58:34 <frosch123> LordAro: we expect you to know both :p 15:58:44 <Alberth> bananas is very trivial :) 15:58:57 <frosch123> is it? 15:59:03 <LordAro> http://nogo.openttd.org ? 15:59:13 <Alberth> correct! 15:59:16 <LordAro> yays 15:59:43 <LordAro> (note: spent a lot of time in http://noai.openttd.org :P ) 16:00:02 <Alberth> (it appends "/api" by itself :) ) 16:00:22 <Alberth> I know, that's why I didn't ask the AI one :) 16:02:49 <frosch123> so what about the bananas game script site? 16:06:27 <LordAro> pfft. who cares about that? :P 16:07:13 <frosch123> 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[~kkimlabs@cpe-69-203-124-125.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:29:06 <Eddi|zuHause> @calc 0.8**5 21:29:06 <DorpsGek> Eddi|zuHause: 0.32768 21:29:18 <Eddi|zuHause> @calc 1-0.8**5 21:29:18 <DorpsGek> Eddi|zuHause: 0.67232 21:37:15 <FLHerne> So what are the numbers? 21:37:59 <FLHerne> Also, is there a way to swap all signals on the map from semaphore to colour-light? 21:38:15 <FLHerne> Instead of replacing each signal individually 21:38:32 *** kkimlabs [~kkimlabs@cpe-69-203-124-125.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 21:52:06 <Zuu> FLHerne: The signnal convert tool appears to be single tile only. If you are in a year when colour-light signals are default, it is possible to create a GameScript solution to your problem. 21:52:28 <Wolf01> 'night all 21:52:34 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@95.232.234.29] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 21:53:18 <Zuu> The reason that colour-lights need to be default, is that the API doesn't expose the semaphore/light status of a signal but rather just stick to the defaults (I think). So to convert all map, you iterate over all tiles and remove and re-build the signal. 21:53:42 <Zuu> Preferable by also checking a list of all vehicles and make sure no vehicle is near the signal when removing it :-) 21:57:32 <FLHerne> Is there a reason why the signal-convert tool is single-tile? I can't see why I would want to convert signals one-by-one - it isn't even draggable like place/remove... :-( 22:03:52 <FLHerne> Actually, is that one of the uses for r24356? 22:04:12 <FLHerne> I mean Zuu's suggestion 22:06:16 <Zuu> What did r24356 do? vcs.openttd.org seems to be down. At least I get a 504 gateway time-out. 22:06:36 * FLHerne looks up the IRC a bit ;-) 22:06:50 <Zuu> Hmm, oh yes, I could use the IRC log :-) 22:07:12 <FLHerne> 21:18 22:08:08 <FLHerne> I was wondering what it was for - I assume easier script-updating of signals is not the primary intention 22:08:38 <Zuu> You still need to watch out for possible crashes as a side effect. 22:09:21 <FLHerne> How quickly can a GS remove and then place a signal? 22:09:42 <Zuu> And a GS can't convert semaphores as a type change as it is not aware of semaphores, instead it has to remove and re-build. As those two things are DoCommands, they cannot happen without some time distance. 22:10:03 *** kkimlabs [~kkimlabs@cpe-69-203-124-125.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:10:15 <Zuu> In general it would be doable to remove it in tick X and then place a new signal in tick X+1 22:10:36 <Zuu> But there is also a setting to cause DoCommands to put a script into sleep for more than one tick. 22:10:51 <Zuu> It applies for AIs, not sure how it applies for GS. 22:11:45 <Zuu> However that single tick difference is probably enough for a train facing a red signal to start moving ahead. 22:11:50 *** Alberth [~hat3@2001:980:272e:1:21a:92ff:fe55:fc8d] has left #openttd [] 22:12:02 <FLHerne> Probably too much bother/risk for a cosmetic thing anyway :P 22:12:12 * FLHerne will go to bed now 22:12:16 <FLHerne> Thanks :D 22:12:33 <Zuu> The proper solution is probably to fix the GUI convert tool to be dragable 22:13:08 <Zuu> Thanks to the change by frosch123, a such drag over the entire map will replace all signals, also those where there is a train on the same tile as the signal. 22:13:47 <FLHerne> Perfect 22:13:56 <FLHerne> 'Night, anyway 22:14:02 <Zuu> good night 22:14:05 *** FLHerne [~francis_h@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has left #openttd [] 22:16:20 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@s55978e11.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 22:33:46 *** DDR [~chatzilla@d172-218-25-105.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:47:32 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@s55978e11.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has quit [Quit: leaving] 22:53:54 *** roadt [~roadt@114.96.128.238] has joined #openttd 22:57:50 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590ff1db.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:58:24 *** TGYoshi_ [~TGYoshi@86.81.146.146] has quit [Quit: Popidopidopido] 22:58:47 *** brambles_ [brambles@79.133.200.49] has quit [Quit: leaving] 22:59:32 *** brambles [brambles@79.133.200.49] has joined #openttd 23:03:48 *** TWerkhoven [~twerkhove@cpc3-linl7-2-0-cust522.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: He who can look into the future, has a brighter future to look into] 23:26:44 *** Devroush [~dennis@178-119-153-135.access.telenet.be] has quit [] 23:36:29 *** DDR [~chatzilla@d172-218-25-105.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #openttd 23:45:27 *** cyph3r [~Miranda@ip-213-220-193-139.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Quit: Miranda IM! 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